00:03:05 *** Suiseiseki (n=POKJ@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 00:03:44 i agree, don't feed the trolls 00:04:59 If people are genuinely interested, I can post details of the versions, GPL violations, EULA violations and the 'misstatements' to reporters so there is a public record of it. It may assist with educating publishers as well. 00:05:28 Hall of Shame. 00:07:42 Maybe. Not sure if it's worth it, really. It's a small-fry project with a small userbase. Though it would be nice to make them aware of what they've actually gotten themselves into. 00:08:04 Yeah. It's probably the biggest of our "competition" though, I'd say? 00:08:52 That would be Ceedo. THey're a decent 2nd to us. 00:09:02 Then U3. Then WinPenPack. 00:09:07 OK. 00:09:13 Yeah, I was forgetting about WinPenPack 00:09:18 LiberKey would be more like 5th or 6th, 00:09:21 And U3 is so easy to forget about completely... 00:09:27 Different market really. And it's dead. 00:09:31 And at least WinPenPack usually includes source and credits. 00:09:35 Yeah 00:09:44 They do things decently and in order. 00:09:45 Framakey does, too. They mod our stuff for the French folks. 00:09:56 Yep 00:10:20 Can't believe they copied eXpresso :'( 00:10:22 Lupo doesn't. He's probably right behind Liberkey in terms of users. 00:10:33 That far up, eh? 00:11:05 I've been trying to get Lupo to release source and quire permission from mozilla. 00:11:16 *acquire 00:11:26 gluxon: (/very/ dryly) good luck 00:12:29 Yeah, Mozilla won't give Lupo permission. ANd they definitely won't give LiberKey permission. 00:12:41 Ah. 00:12:52 And they wouldn't look for it anyway. 00:13:06 Then their only option is to use IceCat. 00:13:44 Not "only", there are other trademark-free builds. 00:13:49 But the equivalent of it, yes. 00:14:26 WinPenPack had to remove the original X-Firefox. They're not bundling the actual Firefox installer and pulling files out of it. But they're actually still in violation for calling it X-Firefox. Liberkey makes no attempt at legality and just repackages it and modifies the settings without permission. 00:16:08 Yeah, they would be. Thinking of name restrictions, should I go and take down links to TrueCrypt Portable as derivatives aren't allowed to use "TrueCrypt" in the name according to the TrueCrypt License? I've given ample time for the developer to release a new, rebranded version 00:17:40 Hmm... did he reach out to the TrueCrypt folks at all? Can we? 00:17:43 brb 00:18:45 *** Chazz (n=chazz@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 00:18:45 Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 and GEdit Portable! (And Gnumeric Portable) :D 00:19:00 I doubt he did. We probably could. 00:19:11 We need a more official TrueCrypt Portable at some time. 00:19:42 I think the Launcher will help with it. I'll be putting in privilege escalation with the UAC plug-in soon 00:21:24 privilege escalation? you mean privilege requesting, don't you? 00:22:48 Either term will do. 00:24:34 I know "privilege escalation" is more often used as a type of security hole, but it's what is done. 00:25:00 Sure, the user has to type in a password or press "OK" in the UAC box, but it's still escalation of privileges 00:25:22 JohnTHaller: should I upload PAL1PA1 to SourceForge? 00:26:11 I imagine I'd use the directory name "PortableApps.com Launcher\PortableApps.com Launcher 1.0 Pre-Alpha 1" -- or "PortableApps.com Launcher\1.0 Pre-Alpha 1"? 00:26:44 escalation normally means, that something is uncontrollable, which is not the case ;) 00:27:11 I don't think it means that 00:27:46 .dict escalation 00:27:46 escalation - 1. increase 00:34:23 JohnTHaller: I set the default download on the SourceForge project to PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_1.6.exe rather than 1.5.2 00:35:38 ChrisMorgan: Wait you have the power to do that? :D 00:35:45 I do now. 00:37:35 I'm not an admin of the project, but I can access the shell service (to create my nice shiny new launcher repository), commit to mercurial repositories (to work on my nice shiny new launcher) and manage files (to upload releases of my nice shiny new launcher). 00:38:21 Sweet :) 00:38:48 an\d back 00:38:51 thnx chris 00:39:37 * ChrisMorgan reckons SourceForge should replace the main project download page with it as it is in the file admin page minus the administrative commands 00:40:08 Then it would load folder contents etc. with Ajaxy techniques rather than trying to load a complex HTML and Javascript page which is almost 5MB. 00:43:18 JohnTHaller: should I give a path for the launcher forum thread, development/launcher or should I just leave it with the plain boring node/NNNNN? (That path is referenced in the package in expectation of what it will be when finished.) 00:44:31 Give it a URL in the docs of /development for now as the official one since we'll add it there when it's done. We'll get it up with a link from /dev to the beta topic next week 00:45:06 development/launcher? 00:45:34 no, just pa.c/dev 00:45:37 for now anyway 00:45:43 Oh, OK, I see 00:45:46 In the package 00:45:51 yea 00:46:37 Ahhh, the power of bash and grep... vim `grep -l development/launcher *` 00:48:19 Sure, I should use sed, but I haven't looked at it yet. 00:50:43 Gah, no appicon_(16|32).png 00:51:14 In what? 00:51:19 PAL 00:51:21 Silly me. 00:57:07 JohnTHaller: Since you're here too... ChrisMorgan, do you recall what reg entries from Qt you found in KVirc portable that were left behind? 00:57:22 Gizmokid2005: I didn't try 00:57:28 Sorry 00:57:50 and JohnTHaller, my question for you is since they're Qt bs reg entries, and aren't needed for anything, do you have any problems with just deleting them upon close? 00:57:53 As far as I can see though the Qt plugin cache must be enabled - there's no way of disabling it at runtime 00:57:56 ChrisMorgan: you found them a while back... 00:58:11 Gizmokid2005: they were from my local KVIrc installation 00:58:15 if you don't have them handy I'll just find them again... 00:58:18 ahh 00:58:20 alright. 00:58:29 Or actually... maybe there were some from right at the start 00:58:40 I think that they should be there though unless you manually kill them 00:59:05 I'll be putting killing of the relevant Qt plugin cache stuff into the launcher soon 01:00:55 Heh heh... it appears that you /do/ get told when a program crashes in Wine :D 01:01:03 PortableApps.com Installer just died :-( 01:01:37 Just like Windows... "The program PortableApps.comInstaller.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." in the white area 01:01:59 odd 01:02:08 never seen that. what did you DO chris? 01:02:21 Just ran the PortableApps.com Installer in Wine. 01:02:32 Then the rest of the message is Wine-specific... /not/ like Windows :-) 01:02:37 I'll try it without the CLA 01:02:42 Hmm.. odd. Died as soon as you fired it up? 01:02:47 Yep 01:02:56 It's in some threading stuff 01:03:13 The backtrace seems to indicate that anyway 01:03:15 ChrisMorgan: yeah, but I'd like to get it finished up in my launcher...since I'm doing a rewrite of it to try and use the built-in switch to specify an INI which in turn specifies the profile location 01:03:41 What it said was "Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x02b09510 in 32-bit code (0x0040139d)." 01:04:01 Possibly running a 64-bit Ubuntu machine isn't helping with it. 01:04:04 JohnTHaller: are you OK with the entries just being blown away? 01:04:16 what entries? 01:04:28 When I put an invalid path in, and when appicon_*.png weren't there, it failed normally. 01:04:46 JohnTHaller: Qt plugin cache entries in the registry. 01:04:58 they have no paths or anything...it's just bs bloat 01:05:21 Tried again to refresh my memory, going through the wizard rather than specifying the directory in the command line, and it got to "Creating PortableApps.com Installer..." and then crashed 01:05:41 Same page fault. 01:05:49 :-( 01:06:28 Probably due to how it spawns makensis.exe. 01:07:28 Digg it please! http://digg.com/software/PortableApps_com_Suite_and_Platform_1_6_Released_for_USB 01:07:37 * ChrisMorgan doesn't use digg 01:07:53 lame :-P 01:08:04 Oh come on, I waste enough time in here as it is. 01:08:13 And this launcher work, when I could be working on my own project... 01:08:18 *sigh* the things I do ;-) 01:12:28 alright, must be off to dinner. sending a friend off to new zealand for a year. 01:12:44 night all 01:13:48 Bye 01:13:50 night JohnTHaller 01:14:01 *** daBomb69 (n=chazz@bb-183-006.omnitelcom.com) has joined #portableapps 01:14:01 daBomb69 is the genius that forgot to include Perl in Perl Portable xP 01:15:40 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 01:20:27 *** Res2216firestar (i=Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 01:27:35 So I think the ExecDos plugin doesn't work in Wine. 01:31:22 *** Res2216firestar has quit ("Leaving") 01:42:06 arethusa in #winehq suggested I try upgrading from 1.1.31 (Ubuntu dev version)... to 1.1.37 (PPA dev version) and now it's working fine :-) 01:42:11 And so, I am happy :-) 01:42:17 *** Chazz has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:46:27 Any last issues anyone would like to point out before I make the release of the PortableApps.com Installer 1.0 Pre-Alpha 1? 01:46:43 *** root (n=chazz@bb-183-006.omnitelcom.com) has joined #portableapps 01:47:11 *** root is now known as Guest97072 01:47:33 It... crashed again! :-( 01:49:51 you could always pull the latest svn and compile yourself and see if that works 01:49:57 I've done that occasionally 01:50:29 warning though it can be a pain to compile 01:50:54 I was running PAI 1.0.2 by accident. 1.0.3 works :-/ 01:50:58 *** Res2216firestar (i=Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 01:51:05 Ours not to reason why, ours but to CELEBRATE! 01:51:07 :-) 01:51:17 *** daBomb69 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02:00:45 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 02:17:58 *** gluxon has quit ("Leaving.") 02:24:35 *** Bjorn_H (n=BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 02:37:19 Weird bug. It seems fairly random whether it succeeds or fails 02:37:37 Well, are you all ready for the first release of the PortableApps.com Launcher? 02:38:58 Someone say "Yes", please 02:39:04 Yes 02:39:32 Guest97072: the key is "22364" 02:39:35 http://portableapps.com/node/22364 02:40:09 umm, yay? 02:40:21 Yay. 02:40:26 *** Guest97072 is now known as dabomb69 02:55:19 *** dabossbv (n=dabossbv@p4FDC5E88.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 03:08:02 Now that I've done that I think I'm going to do my own work for a while rather than the Launcher work. 03:14:21 *** dabomb69 has quit ("Leaving") 03:18:25 *** computerfreaker (n=chatzill@64-201-72-179.static.genevaonline.com) has joined #portableapps 03:18:25 computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback 03:18:48 Any Vista/Seven users have a few moments? 03:19:53 computerfreaker: that thing with "unlock as admin" wasn't a crash: Wine does put up a Windows-like crash message for "real" crashes. 03:20:10 Internally it may have made it quit, but it didn't - in the strict sense of the word - crash. 03:20:56 ok, thanks for the info! 03:21:23 I'm actually looking for a Vista/Seven user to check a newer, different feature 03:22:16 I know 03:22:20 Just thought I'd tell you 03:22:21 I do wonder why KidSafe just died on "Administrator unlock", thoug - it's just standard Windows API calls. (ShellExecuteEx, to be precise) 03:22:27 *though 03:22:44 well, thanks for the information! Sounds like a Wine problem, and one I'll do some research on 03:23:12 I looked at that 03:23:41 If you liked you could run it in Wine and then contact their team directly. Having me as a middleman doesn't help, I'm sure. 03:23:55 actually, it really helps 03:24:23 I don't have a Linux box right now, just a LiveCD (which, IIRC, won't let me install apps) - I'm relying heavily on others to provide Wine feedback atm 03:24:40 and so far, you're the only one who's tried KidSafe on Wine and told me how it went 03:25:06 computerfreaker: you could do a /really/ roundabout way and use andLinux 03:25:17 Wine in andLinux in Windows 03:25:19 Fun fun :D 03:25:21 * computerfreaker wonders if that would work 03:25:28 Should do. 03:25:39 I do have something like andLinux - Portable Ubuntu 03:25:47 and it does work, mostly, on my system 03:25:49 The coLinux kernel is just the kernel built for Windows. 03:25:54 Doesn't that require rebooting? 03:26:06 no, I don't think so 03:26:09 doesn't for me, anyway 03:26:16 Oh... maybe it's something different I'm thinking of 03:26:23 it's something like a virtual machine and something like QEMU 03:26:28 here, let me grab a link for you 03:26:40 http://portableubuntu.demonccc.com.ar/ 03:26:46 *** WastePotato has quit (Connection timed out) 03:28:25 oh, I /can/ install apps on a LiveCD! 03:28:26 Yeah, that's a different one to the one I knew 03:28:32 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=840478 03:28:35 Sure. When you reboot they'll be gone though. 03:28:46 yeah, which is a definite disadvantage 03:29:01 it might be better than Portable Ubuntu, though, since PUbuntu crashes pretty frequently 03:29:23 If you can install software, use VirtualBox 03:29:45 So that Portable Ubuntu Remix is andLinux 03:29:54 Plus or minus 03:29:59 I've got VBox Portable, just haven't gotten around to setting it up yet; I think that just became a high priority. 03:30:03 *** excid3|asus (n=Chris_Ol@24-107-215-150.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 03:30:20 and yes, from what I can tell, PUbuntu is just andLinux with some changes 03:31:51 WOW 03:32:04 just tried installing Wine on PUbuntu and almost blew out my entire system 03:33:13 :D 03:33:23 Grand. 03:34:14 definitely 03:34:32 I went to the Package Manager, got asked for the admin password, and the entire thing locked up 03:34:41 Nice. 03:34:44 better still, the login screen covered my *entire* screen - I couldn't get at anything 03:34:47 Have you used the package manager before? 03:34:56 yes, but only in VBox 03:35:11 So long as you knew your password or could press cancel... 03:35:38 I couldn't press Cancel 03:35:42 the whole dialog iced up 03:36:17 and since the dialog covered my screen, I couldn't get anything. Lucky Ctrl-Alt-Del isn't overridden by PUbuntu 03:37:11 well, I'm creating a new Ubuntu VM in VBox right now 03:44:24 So, anybody on Vista or Seven? 03:45:10 WIndows XP, Vista and 7 plus several other flavours of *nix and occasionally osx 03:45:33 do you have a few moments? 03:45:58 actually I'm busy with some programming of my own 03:46:00 ok 03:46:04 thanks anyway! 04:10:04 *** excid3|asus has quit ("Leaving.") 04:18:25 *** Res2216firestar has quit ("Leaving") 04:25:33 *** dabossbv has quit ("Leaving.") 04:27:38 Yay! 04:27:49 Just got a Ubuntu VM up and running 04:28:08 Now for Wine 04:34:48 Get Wine from the dev channel 04:34:51 The PPA 04:35:08 http://www.winehq.org/download/deb 04:35:19 thanks for the link! 04:35:20 That'll get you 1.1.37 rather than 1.1.31 04:35:25 ok 04:35:46 I'm working on collecting Wine right now; my VM crashed for some reason, so I'm rebooting it 04:38:51 there we go 04:38:55 Downloading file 2 of 7 04:45:19 *** excid3|asus (n=Chris_Ol@24-107-215-150.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 05:01:58 wow, Wine's pretty darn cool! 05:16:35 ChrisMorgan: I don't know what's up, but the "Administrator unlock" button didn't do anything on my Ubuntu VM 05:16:53 no crashes, nothing unusual other than a slight delay (probably caused by processing) 05:16:55 Good 05:17:29 Still wondering what happened on your box though. What kind of Linux do you have? 05:19:28 Ubuntu 9.10 05:19:33 I was using 1.3.31 05:19:42 And 0.23.0.0 05:19:53 Can't really remember what happened anyway... 05:19:56 I'm getting old ;-) 05:22:02 maybe a system-specific thing then, since I used Ubuntu 8.04 with Wine 1.0.1 and KidSafe 0.25.1.0 05:28:00 Well, I have to go. More stuff waiting for me to do... 05:28:02 bye guys! 05:28:07 Thanks for the help, ChrisMorgan! 05:28:15 You're welcome :-) 05:28:23 *** computerfreaker has quit ("See you later!") 06:48:14 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("Opera Web Browser 10.50 alpha preview! 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(And Gnumeric Portable) :D 09:39:28 *** Chazz is now known as Guest46244 10:23:41 *** Guest46244 has quit (Excess Flood) 10:24:53 *** Twinkletoes|W (n=chatzill@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 10:25:40 *** Chazz (i=spartazn@we.pwn.freenode.at.spartairc.co.cc) has joined #portableapps 10:25:40 Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 and GEdit Portable! (And Gnumeric Portable) :D 10:25:57 *** Chazz is now known as Guest52934 11:11:48 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 11:30:16 *** Oni-Neoxes (n=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 12:11:37 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Quit... D:") 12:39:21 *** markomlm has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:12:24 *** kaeos (n=Miranda@84.76.55.235) has joined #portableapps 13:17:15 *** Mir has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:35:45 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 13:46:47 *** computerfreaker (n=chatzill@64-201-72-179.static.genevaonline.com) has joined #portableapps 13:46:48 computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback 13:47:17 Hi guys! 14:00:50 *** markomlm (n=chatzill@84.184.207.69) has joined #portableapps 14:14:06 *** Suiseiseki (n=POKJ@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 14:16:34 Does anyone with Vista or Seven have a few moments? 14:17:10 computerfreaker what ya need 14:17:10 err 14:17:14 lemme boot it first xD 14:17:46 but i only have a few few moments >_> 14:17:52 like 10-15 minutes 14:18:17 great, thank you! 14:18:30 lol 14:18:33 np 14:18:53 could you grab the latest version of KidSafe and see if the "Lock Removable Devices" feature works correctly? 14:18:55 http://kidsafe.googlecode.com/files/KidSafePortable_0.25.2.0_Development_Test_1_English.paf.exe 14:19:26 The API documentation stated that the calls I'm using are only supported up to XP, but I'm willing to bet they'll still work on Vista or Seven 14:22:14 oh 14:22:15 ummm 14:22:25 i dont have a drive with me computerfreaker :S 14:22:29 im on my laptop 14:22:30 xD 14:22:33 does your computer have a CD drive? 14:22:33 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 14:22:56 ya 14:23:03 but 14:23:03 this is a vm 14:23:14 and i dunno if it isnt supported if its gonna screw it up ._. 14:23:18 u think it will? 14:23:27 no, I don't think it will 14:23:31 k 14:23:35 I think the worst that could happen is a KidSafe crash 14:23:41 ill mount the cd drive then try 14:23:43 cool 14:23:58 thanks, Bensawsome! I really appreciate that! 14:24:35 now if only my computer will respond! 14:24:37 raggge 14:24:38 lol 14:24:46 * Bensawsome quits other programs 14:26:31 *** markomlm has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]") 14:27:25 computerfreaker and what should locking them do? 14:27:37 it *should* prevent the CD drive from ejecting 14:27:43 oh 14:27:48 i dont have a cd either.... 14:27:49 -_- 14:27:52 * Bensawsome lols 14:28:21 an empty CD drive is OK as long as it's got a physical "Eject" button or you can right-click the drive in Explorer and hit "Eject" 14:28:29 oh cool 14:28:30 lol 14:28:32 yep 14:28:32 :) 14:30:24 ok (finally) downloading xD 14:30:31 ok 14:30:47 stupid network is so freaking slow 14:31:15 :( 14:33:48 ok so Locker all removable devices computerfreaker? 14:33:58 yep 14:34:02 *lock rather 14:34:03 lol 14:34:15 it should be in the Options dialog you'll get as soon as you fire up KidSafe 14:34:57 ok so i went and right clicked on the cd/dvd drive when it is (supposedly) locked 14:35:03 and it said error ejecting drive 14:35:33 if you turn off KidSafe, does the drive eject OK? 14:35:33 and normally it doesnt show that 14:35:37 ya 14:35:40 it seems to work 14:35:42 ^_^ 14:35:46 great!! :D 14:35:49 :D 14:35:51 Thanks for the help, Bensawsome!! 14:36:03 no prob 14:36:04 I /really/ appreciate it! 14:36:12 shuttin 7 down 14:36:19 too much resources 14:36:19 lol 14:56:40 *** kai_62656 (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps 15:35:24 *** palogbot (n=palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 15:35:24 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 15:44:48 *** kaeos has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:48:04 *** computerfreaker_ (n=chatzill@64-201-72-179.static.genevaonline.com) has joined #portableapps 15:48:05 *** computerfreaker has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:48:09 *** computerfreaker_ is now known as computerfreaker 16:01:21 *** pa_8232 (i=bc212462@gateway/web/freenode/x-ygoxvsjhnfnkttzg) has joined #portableapps 16:01:54 *** pa_8232 has quit (Client Quit) 16:11:03 *** pa_2873 (i=43972226@gateway/web/freenode/x-nmiuvgneirbbuzpd) has joined #portableapps 16:11:35 Hello, can anyone tell me how to get the portable app menu to autorun? 16:12:54 I am on an hp laptop running windows 7. When I plug in the thumb drive I have to click on the portable app menu to have it come up. 16:13:18 There is an autorun script on my thumb drive, but it doesn't run 16:13:27 Windows 7 has autorun disabled as a security measure 16:13:42 you won't be able to get *anything* to autorun under Windows 7, unfortunately 16:13:46 Aw, ok 16:13:51 sorry! 16:14:05 np, thought I might have installed the suite incorrectly 16:14:19 thanks for your help computerfreaker 16:14:25 you're welcome! 16:26:26 *** pa_2873 has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 16:34:15 *** kai_62656 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:35:01 *** computerfreaker has quit ("Client Quit") 16:46:10 *** kaeos (n=Miranda@84.76.55.235) has joined #portableapps 17:05:24 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:12:10 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 17:12:14 hola 17:12:23 hello JohnTHaller 17:19:10 how goes it 17:25:43 it goes. Impatiently awaiting the arrival of my new Macbook Pro 17:27:06 ah nice 17:28:21 *** morrjo84 (n=morrjo84@CPE001a70f30c76-CM0011ae918494.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #portableapps 17:28:32 Mind if I get some help? 17:28:48 ask away morrjo84 17:29:09 I am trying to compile some NSI script, and It gives me the error: Error: Section left open at EOF 17:31:51 JohnTHaller: ^? 17:33:05 you probably forgot a SectionEnd at the end of the file 17:33:25 ahh 17:33:29 Ill try that 17:35:04 there we go 17:35:08 that worked 17:35:14 thx 17:36:34 another question 17:38:53 im trying to compile another script, and it gives me an error, on the CheckRunning header 17:39:27 it looks the same as the others in other .nsi, yet it still produces errors. 17:40:21 can you paste the full error log on something like pastebin.com? 17:40:38 Ill try 17:40:41 gimme a sec 17:42:11 done : go here:http://pastebin.com/dd1ced52 17:43:47 http://portableapps.com/node/18838 17:44:22 I was missing some plugins? 17:44:41 that seems to be the case, yes 17:44:46 good 17:45:00 thats an easy fix 17:45:01 thx 17:45:23 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 17:46:30 well 17:46:35 its still bugging me about it 17:47:14 it seems to be specifically the chechrunning line 17:47:21 could you pastebin the error(s) you get? 17:48:08 one sec... 17:48:40 lol... 17:48:46 I just found out what the error was 17:48:51 *facepalm* 17:49:11 I tried to define it Twice... 17:49:15 hehe, glad you got it to work :) 17:49:43 yet ANOTHER error 17:51:14 http://pastebin.com/d3878120b 17:51:53 I put the actual error at the bottom 17:52:24 thats not the actual error morrjo84 17:52:28 or well, not all of it 17:52:52 what's all buggy then? 17:53:10 could you please paste more of the error (like, all output nsis gives when compiling)? 17:53:19 k... 17:54:14 here is all that NSIS outputed :http://pastebin.com/d24a02bd0 17:54:57 "!insertmacro: macro "registry::SaveKey" requires 4 parameter(s), passed 3!" 17:55:04 there you go, that is your problem 17:56:04 http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Registry_plug-in#Registry_Export_.28save_to_the_file_in_REGEDIT4_format.29 17:58:47 in your case, what you want to do probably is ${registry::SaveKey} "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Safari" "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY\Safari_portable.reg" "" $0 17:58:50 ahh 18:01:39 there 18:01:45 I also fixed the last of the problems 18:01:48 thx 18:01:54 you're welcome 18:02:29 *** morrjo84 has quit ("Miranda IM! 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 18:45:49 *** pa_1690 (i=5610a682@gateway/web/freenode/x-nsuqdhhaftfuivkd) has joined #portableapps 18:46:08 *** pa_1690 is now known as [Oliver] 18:46:34 <[Oliver]> Hello I am in need of help please 18:47:53 hello [Oliver], what can we help you with? 18:49:10 <[Oliver]> I have installed portable apps onto my memory stick and have coppied Microsoft Office 2003 from school onto it because I do not have MS Access at home. But when I try and run MS Access it says that the operating system is not presently configured to run this application 18:50:10 [Oliver]: Office is not a portable application 18:50:11 and never will be 18:50:14 MS Acces just wont work that way, microsoft doesn;t want it to 18:50:20 you can use the alternative of OpenOffice.org from our site. 18:50:38 <[Oliver]> Oh right 18:50:49 <[Oliver]> Thankyou very much 18:52:28 *** [Oliver] has quit ("Page closed") 18:52:46 *** pa_4114 (i=48a6e0c0@gateway/web/freenode/x-ugaabnwfxtwdczpk) has joined #portableapps 18:53:01 *** pa_4114 has quit (Client Quit) 19:01:08 Think I might post a quick how-to on this: http://portableapps.com/files/images/screenshots/firefoxportable_all_versions.png What do you guys think? 19:02:01 I'm thinking wow the difference and history of the firefox icon :P 19:02:10 but a good idea though 19:19:31 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:29:54 *** andreasma (n=andi@93.215.137.127) has joined #portableapps 19:31:24 *** Res2216firestar (i=Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 19:38:29 *** kai_62656 (n=chatzill@66-189-153-43.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 19:39:58 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 20:06:44 *** Res2216firestar has quit ("Leaving") 20:11:48 *** andreasma has quit ("Verlassend") 20:13:40 *** OliverK (n=WifiWomb@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 21:13:32 *** Oni-Neoxes (n=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 21:30:52 *** Alcasar (i=40125748@gateway/web/freenode/x-mfqwhxgamijnsiia) has joined #portableapps 21:31:14 my java applets don't work 21:31:50 ff 3.6 java 6 update 18 both portableapps 21:32:03 fiefox uses the local java 21:32:54 my about:plugins says Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U18 21:33:45 and the computers are rarely updated so i doubt it 21:34:01 *** pa_7028Bill (i=401a625a@gateway/web/freenode/x-ziehtexcpafskogi) has joined #portableapps 21:34:02 you have java installed locally? 21:34:36 not sure it's a public computer 21:36:05 Help: Is there an easy way to know which portable apps need updating? I'm assuming I need to update with PA versions, not just via the update within the program (if any). 21:36:20 Alcasar: if you don't have java locally, it won't work. 21:36:44 pa_7028Bill: not yet, there is the updator, but I'm not sure if the way it checks is still valid 21:37:14 pa_7028Bill: i use the feed 21:37:50 OliverK: Then what's the use of java portable? 21:37:58 openoffice portable 21:38:05 rssowl portable 21:38:13 Thanks. I only need to use PA intermittently and can't really stay on top via a feed 21:39:03 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Quit... D:") 21:40:18 OliverK: but not ff portable 21:41:01 :-( 21:41:31 *** Alcasar has quit ("Page closed") 21:43:50 Oliver: Does "not yet" mean PA 2.0 perhaps? 21:44:49 *** ptmb (n=PTMblogg@a83-132-128-25.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 21:45:15 pa_7028Bill: is supposed to show up at some point 21:49:27 I won't wait with baited breathe. Thanks. Bye. 21:49:59 *** pa_7028Bill has quit ("Page closed") 21:52:01 *** pa_3660 (i=4356194c@gateway/web/freenode/x-pxawiilbczcirvxd) has joined #portableapps 21:52:34 how do you set the app to autorun 21:53:39 right click on them 21:53:49 okay and,,, 21:53:51 use the latest menu 21:54:06 you don't have a run on start option in the menu? 21:54:18 let me check 21:55:07 no i mean how to start the entire program 21:55:20 i have win7 and it wont do it 21:55:22 the menu? 21:55:29 when you plug the flash drive in? 21:55:45 yes it wont start when i plug my flash drive in 21:55:52 i can do it manually 21:55:54 your computer? or someone elses 21:55:58 my own 21:57:13 *** computerfreaker (n=chatzill@64-201-72-179.static.genevaonline.com) has joined #portableapps 21:57:13 computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback 21:58:20 pa_3660: do you get a popup? 21:58:28 something asking what you would like to do 22:00:30 *** pa_3660 has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 22:13:57 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|School 22:14:20 *** computerfreaker is now known as cf|school 22:31:09 *** cf|school is now known as computerfreaker 22:38:19 *** MaienM has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:39:30 *** MaienM (n=MaienM@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 22:39:30 MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/ 22:41:36 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SergentSiler 22:41:40 *** kaeos has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:44:37 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.86.50.47) has joined #portableapps 22:54:05 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:56:03 *** pa_5805 (i=5263e5fc@gateway/web/freenode/x-zalcdyjgsiivjjqg) has joined #portableapps 22:56:09 hi 22:56:15 can any one help me? 22:56:36 sure, pa_5805. What's up? 22:56:50 Sure :) 22:57:26 I am in iran and for last two weeks I could not download any thing from sourgeforge 22:57:41 Why? What errors do you get? 22:58:02 pa_5805: check out this thread on the forums: 22:58:03 http://portableapps.com/node/22279 22:58:07 forbidden 403 22:58:07 that looks like your problem 22:58:57 Your request is being denied as it appears to be coming from a location banned by our Terms of Use. 22:59:07 what ISP do you have? 22:59:09 ? 22:59:23 this is error 22:59:25 pa_5805: if that's the error you're getting from sourceforge, there's nothing any of us can do about it. 22:59:34 sounds like your ISP is blocking you. 22:59:39 What ISP do you have? 22:59:43 that's an issue with sourceforge and whoever is providing your internet. 22:59:55 i am using a dial up connection 23:00:08 parsonline.com 23:00:39 sounds like sourceforge is blocking connections from your location, unfortunately there is not much we can do about that :( 23:01:30 Try contacting your ISP and see if they can help you. Do you have their phone # and e-mail address? 23:01:34 nope 23:01:35 http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/25/sourceforge-blocks-iran-north-korea-syria-sudan-and-cuba/ 23:01:35 and is this meaning of open source? 23:01:36 *** kai_62656 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:01:53 pa_5805: there's only so much we can do 23:02:11 sourceforge is not in our control, we can't do much about it. 23:02:28 http://sourceforge.net/blog/clarifying-sourceforgenets-denial-of-site-access-for-certain-persons-in-accordance-with-us-law/ 23:02:37 this seems only a few days new :( 23:02:45 MaienM, OliverK|School, Gizmokid2005: do we have an external mirror he could try? 23:02:50 nope 23:02:52 computerfreaker: no. 23:02:54 uhm, not that i know of 23:02:55 but if he tells we what he wants 23:02:57 everything is hosted with sourceforge 23:03:03 tor maybe, but it will be slow 23:03:05 I can mirror it for him so he can download it 23:03:13 and quite possible against tos 23:03:46 what is my sins? 23:04:03 you haven't done anything wrong, pa_5805 23:04:13 pa_5805: it's nothing YOU did, you need to read the articles you were linked to understand the issue. 23:04:43 is it my fualt that i was bornd in iran? 23:04:48 iran is on the U.S. 'Foreign Assets Control sanction list', and sourceforge was legally forced to block all those countries 23:04:49 nope 23:04:52 no, it is not 23:05:13 but you can hardly blame us or sourceforge for it 23:05:22 *is = the block 23:05:24 MaienM offered to mirror some things if you'd like 23:05:28 yep 23:05:32 a day I said only open source matters 23:05:38 that's the best we can do 23:05:39 like joomla 23:05:55 but now I should surf the web like a crimer 23:05:57 joomla == web service not a server 23:06:31 I'm sorry pa_5805, I understand that you are pissed (and very rightfully so) but there is nothing we can do, law is law 23:06:46 I can however mirror anything you want so you can still download it 23:07:04 which does not fix the unjust being done here, but unfortunately its the best we can do for you 23:07:41 thanks @maienM 23:07:50 and for future? 23:08:00 I should ask you? 23:08:26 pa_5805: If MaienM isn't here, feel free to ask me to mirror :) 23:08:53 thanks 23:09:01 thanks all of you 23:09:24 sorry we can't help you more 23:09:38 what? 23:09:58 I was apologizing that we can't fix the SourceForge problem 23:10:36 oh yes 23:10:58 but gluxen and maienm said me they can help me to find mirror 23:11:21 yes, they can both help you 23:11:35 thanks 23:11:43 pa_5805: What we mean is we can upload the thing you want and you can download off us :) 23:11:59 It'll be much faster than SF.net, that's the advantage, since my server is usually empty :P 23:12:07 yes I understand 23:12:15 :) 23:12:43 and you have a site? 23:13:00 Yeah :) 23:13:15 may I see it? 23:13:30 Wait, really? :D 23:13:33 http://gluxon.tk/ 23:13:50 what you mean? 23:13:59 Nobody ever wants to see it :P 23:14:25 So, need anything now? :D 23:14:30 oh yes 23:14:45 :D 23:15:01 yes 23:15:07 ff 3.6 23:15:09 can you? 23:15:20 Yep :D 23:17:03 Done :) 23:17:04 http://www.bensawsome.com/downloads/store/users/gluxon/Mirrors/FirefoxPortable_3.6_English.paf.exe 23:17:25 >_> 23:17:30 lol 23:17:53 it si really wonderfull 23:18:37 Bensawsome: I know, I was going to go with ftp.gluxon.tk, but then I remembered you had unlimited bandwidth :P 23:18:48 also dude 23:18:54 dont give the direct lkink 23:18:55 and wait 23:18:57 err 23:18:59 lol 23:19:11 Why not? :P 23:19:22 Bensawsome: gluxon - take it to PM 23:22:27 thnaks gluxon 23:22:30 :) 23:22:34 Anything elase? 23:22:53 your health! 23:22:55 :) 23:23:05 just be fine 23:23:24 *** sancas has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:23:29 lol! :P 23:24:27 http://inspiration.ir 23:24:33 it is my site 23:24:47 coming soon 23:24:49 pa_5805: Okay, I found a mirror of PortableApps.com 23:24:50 http://mirror.unej.ac.id/mirrors/portable/ 23:25:06 It looks like that site is pretty updated. 23:25:14 See all the apps released there :) 23:25:25 But if the app you need isn't there, just ask MaienM or me :D 23:26:02 and is this mirrors safe? 23:26:21 It looks like it. 23:26:35 pa_5805: sure 23:26:43 check the md5 to be sure :) 23:26:51 how 23:26:59 I can not check it 23:27:24 ? 23:27:31 http://portableapps.com/node/19346 23:27:40 use that. the md5 sum is listed under the download 23:28:04 OliverK|School: He can't compare, remember? 23:28:19 gluxon: he can, now that he has md5hash 23:28:44 computerfreaker: Yeah, but he can't get the original package from SF.net if he's blocked! :P 23:28:48 Thus, he can't check :P 23:28:58 gluxon: forum link 23:29:04 .title 23:29:05 OliverK|School: md5hash 1.0.3.5 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives 23:29:08 :) 23:29:11 from wriathdu 23:29:19 he downloads installs that 23:29:26 downloads ffp 23:29:34 drag and drop on tothe md5hash window 23:29:39 pa_5805: on each PortableApps.com release page, there's a md5 sum shown. Download the app you're looking for, get the md5 of the app using md5hash, and make sure the md5 on the release page is the same md5 you get from md5hash 23:29:45 and now what shuild i do? 23:29:48 comapre that md5 with the one listed on ffp homepage 23:29:58 pa_5805: Yep, you can trust it. I just checked, the MD5's match :) 23:30:06 So it's the EXACT same file. 23:30:13 http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable#download_details 23:31:18 and again thanks 23:32:13 *** pa_5805 has parted #portableapps () 23:32:13 *** pa_5805 (i=5263e5fc@gateway/web/freenode/x-zalcdyjgsiivjjqg) has joined #portableapps 23:33:10 *** gallaxy67 (i=5263e5fc@gateway/web/freenode/x-mjigpweahgdnvyvt) has joined #portableapps 23:33:25 and id am here again 23:33:33 gluxon 23:33:47 I am who comes from iran 23:34:13 :P 23:34:38 my nickname here will be gallaxy67 23:34:46 my nickname over the web 23:34:55 k 23:34:59 you can google me by my nick name 23:35:04 make sure you register with nickserv :) 23:35:14 *** pa_5805 has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 23:35:14 so none steals it here on freenode 23:35:51 where can I regeister? 23:35:59 Type in this. 23:36:05 /msg NickServ REGISTER 23:36:17 It'll give you directions on Registering :) 23:40:16 thanks 23:40:36 it registred 23:41:03 and back... 23:41:11 Hi JohnTHaller! 23:41:35 Hi John :) 23:43:07 JohnTHaller: LiberKey removed my comment about it being illegal. :P 23:43:18 surprise surprise ;) 23:43:19 But I took a screenshot :P 23:43:52 MaienM: They commented to everything except the thing about GPL, meaning they absoulutely know what they're doing is wrong. 23:43:53 howdy JohnTHaller 23:44:04 now what, I wonder? "Zey doctored zeir schreenshotts!!" 9_9 23:44:05 lols 23:44:57 hey guys 23:45:13 I installed ff 3 on my usb flash 23:45:51 Yay! :) 23:45:54 but it seems ff 3 is slower and more unstable than ff 2 23:45:58 is it teu? 23:46:22 when I see more pages 23:46:31 ff 2 is very faster than 3 23:46:32 yeah 23:47:08 portable version 23:47:29 FF2 writes to the disk less than FF3. So FF3 is slower on flash drives. 23:47:30 but orginal ff3 is very faster than 2 23:47:41 The solution is to get a faster flash drive or disable stuff. 23:47:52 FF3 is faster than FF2 on a hard drive. 23:48:27 my flash drive was kingston 1 gig 23:48:37 http://gluxon.tk/images/LiberKey.png 23:48:39 but now is silicon power 2 gig 23:48:45 gluxon: Not surprising. Liberkey generally removes any content critical of them. Opendev knows full well the GPL violations he's done. And the fact that he is illegally repackaging Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Teamviewer, etc. 23:49:17 I thought so. But now we have proof :P 23:49:32 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 23:50:35 *** Everest (i=8444cc4c@gateway/web/freenode/x-essqcqhvpqsnecav) has joined #portableapps 23:50:57 can anyone provide help here ? 23:51:08 Sure, what do you need Everest 23:51:08 I have a Question.. 23:51:25 why Chrome isn't updated as portable app 23:51:31 It's in testing. 23:51:37 nooo 23:51:37 Everest: Our Developer is working on it ;) 23:51:39 Here: http://portableapps.com/node/22324 23:51:47 version 4 is stable now 23:51:56 No, I mean the portable package is in testing. 23:52:27 oh, I see 23:52:30 4.0 is a major upgrade, so we test the portable package for several days after the actual Google Chrome is released. We don't just throw it out there without fully testing it :-) 23:52:49 Everest: The Portable version is still in testing, Google Chrome 4.0 introduces some new features that affect Portability. 23:53:00 so how do I update it after it's released 23:53:10 the auto update doesn't work :( 23:53:41 Just download the new one from us and install over it. You can always do in-place upgrades with apps in PortableApps.com FOrmat. 23:53:58 that's great. 23:54:57 I'm downloading Firefox 3.6 now, I may keep it if I like it. 23:55:12 And if you wait a few weeks, the PA.c Platform will have an updater built in that will update all your apps for you :-) 23:55:38 does portable Firefox auto update? 23:55:54 that would be awesome :) 23:56:24 so does portable Firefox auto update atm ? 23:56:36 It's set to notify you but not do it automatically (since updates take a little longer on flash drives). We make that change with Mozilla's permission. But you can download updates and apply them in Firefox without major issue. 23:57:00 It will leave a couple non-personal files behind on the local PC. I think only a single empty directory at this point. 23:58:27 thank you JohnTHaller , have a nice day ;) 23:59:47 You, too, Everest :-)