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All our new apps have that. 16:04:36 :? 16:04:43 so it wasn't there before? 16:05:19 Our older apps (like Firefox) use custom launchers. Not PAL. 16:05:27 see when i download google chrome portable and install it doesn't have that stuff in parenthesis 16:05:38 Yep. Custom launcher. 16:05:41 oh custom launcher 16:05:48 is that with the .nsh 16:05:53 the custom code ? 16:05:59 Yes. 16:06:03 ahhhh i see 16:06:12 thanks for your help AluisioASG 16:06:23 :) 16:06:38 You're welcome. 16:13:55 *** HelloWorldCool has quit (Quit: Page closed) 16:58:54 *** pie___ (~pie@unaffiliated/pie-/x-0787662) has joined #portableapps 16:59:22 Whats the portableapps launcher's "main" file? Im trying to figure out when Variables.nsh is executed 17:00:05 oh wait, wrong question 17:01:17 ehh, so running grep --exclude-dir=Manual -r '\\Data' . on the source tree outputs a few lines that have a semi hardcoded path like $EXEDIR\Data 17:01:23 but then theres ./Other/Source/Segments/Variables.nsh: StrCpy $DataDirectory $EXEDIR\Data 17:01:42 so im trying to figure out whther its safe to replace the semi-hardcoded versions with $DataDirectory 17:06:11 http://pastebin.com/mdJChK3Y 17:08:31 You need to check if these hardcoded versions are run before Variables.nsh. 17:09:21 Other/Source/PortableApps.comLauncher.nsi 17:09:59 right, how would I go about that? 17:10:14 hmm, well i guess i could put debug messages 17:11:08 Just check the lines starting with ${RunSegment} 17:11:43 So e.g. "${RunSegment} Settings" runs code from Settings.nsh. 17:12:08 aha. 17:12:23 So it's safe to replace the hardcoded parts in files which don't come before "${RunSegment} Variables". 17:13:26 * pie___ opens the nsi file 17:15:50 well grepping it, it says it runs segments 12 times before the first time variables is run 17:16:35 ahh, nvm about the grep, its much better looking at it in the nsi 17:21:13 hmm :/ well theres two in Debug.nsh, one in DirectoryMoving, one in DriveLetter, two in Language, and 4 in Settings 17:21:25 LastRunEnvironment and Runlocally might be changeable then 17:26:31 I guess so. 17:28:31 well damn. that kinda sucks for my purposes, i havent been able to work on it till now, I dont know if you remember, I'm the guy that wanted to make his Data directory be specifiable. 17:30:18 * pie___ checks why Variables needs to run after the others 17:33:45 from Settings, ${If} ${FileExists} $EXEDIR\App\DefaultData\*.* 17:33:56 why *.*? what might exclude extensionless files no? 17:37:07 Ask Microsoft folks why that actually includes *all* files. 17:37:18 lul 17:37:53 kinda misleading then, why not just * for the sheer logic of it? 17:39:29 Perhaps extension-less files where not supposed to exist. 17:41:34 but if it includes them anyway it doesnt matter does it? there could be a comment that warns of this 17:44:35 by the way im supposed to get the source code from here right?: http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/ im asking because it says the launcher ource was last updated 3 months ago 17:51:06 That's right. You can also choose between the stable and the development version. 18:11:07 *** GordCaswell (GordCaswel@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 18:11:10 GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer 18:12:11 hai GordCaswell 18:12:21 ohai AluisioASG 18:17:37 *** AluisioASG has quit (Quit: .) 18:18:08 *** AlleyKat has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:22:07 *** AlleyKat (~Miranda@0x573a587c.ronnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) has joined #portableapps 18:33:22 so, DriveLetter and DirectoryMoving are after settings because they depend on $EXEDIR\Data\settings\$AppIDSettings.ini existing, i didnt see any other reasons 18:34:17 variables depends on driveletter because it uses $CurrentDrive on one line, but I dont think it needs to be after Directorymoving, but since DirectoryMoving and Driveletter are similar its easier to follow if theyre executed after eachother 18:35:34 then again, this doesnt necessarily all need to be reordered to do this, StrCpy $DataDirectory $EXEDIR\Data could be put in say Settings.nsh, or is there something illogical about that? 18:36:11 that would leave Language.nsh, Debug.nsh and GeneratorWizard.nsi to look at. 18:45:22 *** george2 (~42@wl-dhcp176-200.Mines.EDU) has joined #portableapps 19:30:42 hmm the ones in Language are actually in its Init section so thats safe too 19:53:38 *** Ozosoft (3e962c7f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.150.44.127) has joined #portableapps 19:53:49 Hi 19:54:34 We are small software company wann to make our apps portable and submit them to you. 19:54:53 How we can submit our software to you? 19:57:06 Ozosoft: use the contact us page on the website 19:57:22 Ozosoft: http://portableapps.com/about/contact 19:57:29 This will give you everything you need. 19:57:49 hmm, well, if this does work the next problem is indivisual apps have the same path hardcoded >.> 19:59:06 Gizmokid2005: Yes, I opened it , But for application request and suggestions it direct to the forum. Am I right? or I missed something? 19:59:25 Ozosoft: if you're a company, use the business development contact 19:59:58 Ok, Do you mean contact you by email? 20:02:38 Ozosoft: That's correct. Contact us by email at the business development contact address 20:04:13 *** Ozosoft has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20:09:08 *** AluisioASG (~kg-gecko@187.11.103.20) has joined #portableapps 20:09:08 ... 20:10:39 What exactly does that means, GizmoBot? 20:21:31 *** Venusaur is now known as Suiseiseki 20:40:29 here's my current patch file for the launcher 20:40:46 it seems to work (i tested it with utorrentportable so far) 20:42:47 pie___: I suppose you're not going to paste it here, right? 20:43:09 fail, my bad, http://pastebin.com/H5AYXgJt 20:43:18 couldve sworn i pressed ctrl-v :P 20:43:40 btw im on windows using cygwin 20:44:01 *** cosmosis (~cosmosis@70.99.49.180) has joined #portableapps 20:53:14 *** george2 has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 20:53:42 *** george2 (~42@wl-dhcp176-200.Mines.EDU) has joined #portableapps 21:08:09 AluisioASG, look all right to you? 21:09:14 Well, I'm not sure if the others will agree with the change in Settings.nsh, but everything else looks good. 21:11:43 Yeah, I wasnt shure about that, there are points both for and against it 21:12:40 It feels like it belongs more in Variables.nsh but having it in Settings is useful. 21:13:13 Debug.nsh could have the log files placed in EXEDIR? 21:14:36 also, I havent looked at GeneratorWizard yet, but its probably fine since this shouldnt have changed anything, only added advanced functionality 21:15:29 there'll probably need to be a few changes inthe documentation 21:15:39 I havent looked at that yet either 21:15:54 *** george2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:16:08 GordCaswell, opinion? 21:16:18 *may I ask for it? 21:20:02 sorry, pie___ , i haven't had a chance to take a look at it 21:22:04 Im in no hurry. :) 21:23:56 *** irishmac1022 (~kvirc@71-34-152-124.clsp.qwest.net) has joined #portableapps 21:24:25 help! 21:24:25 irishmac1022: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 21:25:09 hi, irishmac1022. How can we help you? 21:25:26 how do you get the portableapps platform to change the app directory to a new folder? 21:25:51 :) 21:26:41 irishmac1022, could you elaborate on that? 21:26:57 irishmac1022: Do you mean, moving/renaming the PortableApps folder? 21:27:26 Do you mean having the start menu searrch a different directory for apps? 21:27:49 for example, i have apps installed into a folder other than the PortableApps folder, all of them and i dont want to have to move them 21:28:03 pie___: exactly 21:28:18 you could move the start menu? 21:28:52 it is currently in the documents folder with the apps 21:29:03 root documents 21:29:04 why dont you want to move the apps? its not an intensive task >.> 21:29:09 irishmac1022, that behaviour isn't currently supported by the PortableApps.com Platform, but it is planned for the future. 21:29:24 Is it? 21:29:41 because im currently using them to talk to you 21:30:02 and i dont want to exit them 21:30:10 well you could move all the ones not in use and do the others the next time you restart 21:30:24 true 21:30:27 bye 21:30:34 quit 21:30:38 *** irishmac1022 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 21:30:45 * pie___ shrugs 21:31:00 Found it: "Ability to manually add apps from other directories" 21:31:42 though it sounds a bit more broad in scope 21:31:45 yeah, i just found it too, was about to post that 21:33:52 AluisioASG, if you can think of a better way to do it than putting it in Settings I will 21:34:23 Actually, I have to make some time to refactor all that code. 22:00:49 now I need to mod my apps and re-generate the launchers :( 22:00:55 and change settings and stuff 22:01:09 Y U NO use relative paths? 22:01:57 Because we can run from anywhere. A very useful feature, BTW. 22:02:19 *** AluisioASG is now known as AluisioASG|Away 22:05:53 no thats when you use relative paths, im saying why dont they :P 22:07:14 oh wait no, my bad about saying relative paths arent used some places, i was thinking of something completely different 22:08:30 Its getting late 22:26:18 *** GordCaswell has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:41:39 *** george2 (~42@wl-dhcp176-200.Mines.EDU) has joined #portableapps 23:00:22 *** AluisioASG|Away is now known as AluisioASG 23:04:37 *** OliverK|away has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23:06:57 *** OliverK|away (~OliverK@2a01:4f8:140:5021::e708:7db3) has joined #portableapps 23:07:17 *** OliverK|away is now known as Guest38909 23:07:33 *** Guest38909 is now known as OliverK 23:08:03 *** OliverK is now known as Guest84826 23:09:23 how do you get nsis to show a window? :/ 23:40:21 *** george2 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23:40:43 *** george2 (~42@wl-dhcp176-200.Mines.EDU) has joined #portableapps 23:40:43 Which kind of window? 23:41:39 *** cosmosis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 23:42:22 *** cosmosis (~cosmosis@70.99.49.180) has joined #portableapps 23:57:29 I found the dialog version of the debugging annoying so I tried to make something like the text box portion on this: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7618/08installing.jpg 23:58:02 Hm. That would be complicated. 23:58:18 it seems all it would need is SetDetailsView and Detailprint 23:58:48 and maybe a button for stepping so at that point guess it'd need a custom page or whatever, but i cant even get to the point of bringing up a window 23:59:41 *** cosmosis has quit (Remote host closed the connection)