IRC Log from 2009-02-25

00:00:57 <TimClark> Scriptdaemon: I think becuase he is using mibbit he is seeing the image and not the link, and does not know if the url can be seen
00:01:09 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
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00:34:04 <pabot> kai_62656 is here. He's developing LMarbles, Lincity-NG, WinHTTrack Website Copier, Gourmet, and NVDA Portable.
00:34:26 <daBomb69> hello kai_62656
00:34:49 <kai_62656> hi daBomb69
00:35:28 <gluxon> Hey kai_62656!
00:35:46 <kai_62656> hi gluxon...
00:35:59 <gluxon> I'm recompiling AkelPad
00:36:21 <daBomb69> gluxon: So AkelPad still contains that virus?
00:36:50 <gluxon> Yeah.
00:36:57 <daBomb69> ok
00:37:18 <gluxon> Ya know if viruses can affect files other than EXE?
00:37:27 <kai_62656> Some
00:37:37 <daBomb69> they could, depends on the other file types
00:37:40 <gluxon> What extentions?
00:37:43 <gluxon> Other than msi
00:38:09 <daBomb69> possibaly .docm i think
00:38:16 <daBomb69> 8 .doc
00:38:26 <daBomb69> * .doc
00:39:05 <gluxon> :(
00:39:12 <gluxon> Anything other than that?
00:39:38 <gluxon> brb
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00:39:43 <daBomb69> mabey those command propt things .com or .bat or something like that
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00:40:56 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
00:41:07 <daBomb69> hello OliverK
00:41:15 <OliverK> hello daBomb69
00:41:25 <daBomb69> how are oyu today?
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00:55:43 <OliverK> i';m alright
00:55:50 <daBomb69> cool
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00:57:00 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
00:58:06 <diib> hello?
01:00:36 <powerjuce> u huh
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01:19:45 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
01:20:06 <gluxon> I need some help.
01:20:07 <gluxon> :(
01:20:13 <gluxon> My menu is destroyed...
01:20:29 <daBomb69> menu as in...
01:20:40 <gluxon> PAM Mod r34
01:21:12 <daBomb69> have u tried re-installing it?
01:21:13 <gluxon> ... It wouldn't autorun so I double clicked on StartPortableApps.exe but it didn't work, so I browsed to the menu to find it in pieces...
01:21:30 <gluxon> daBomb69: Somehow my backup copy was destroyed.
01:21:36 <gluxon> Along with the menu.
01:21:48 <gluxon> All that's there are some weird files with weird characters.
01:21:59 <daBomb69> so, was it just the menu, or the programs that the menu showed as well?
01:22:05 <gluxon> Just the menu.
01:22:18 <daBomb69> sounds like something got corrupted.
01:22:24 <gluxon> I know!!!
01:22:25 <gluxon> :P
01:22:45 <gluxon> I'm hoping that there's a way to revive it with those corrupt files.
01:23:03 <daBomb69> those corrup files r probaly beond repair
01:23:11 <gluxon> probably.
01:23:22 <gluxon> But just maybe, somehow it will work :O
01:23:31 <OliverK> gluxon: chdsk :D
01:23:45 <daBomb69> try Googleing the menu, reDLing it, and reinstall it. Then see if it gets corrupt again
01:23:52 <daBomb69> and yes, chdsk would work 2
01:24:03 <gluxon> chdsk?
01:24:21 <daBomb69> .g chdsk
01:24:24 <pabot> daBomb69: http://www.upgradenrepair.com/dos/c/doscommandchkdsk.htm
01:24:30 <gluxon> Do you know how much files I kept in that PortableAppsMenu folder? :'(
01:24:31 <OliverK> checkdisk utily, run it on your menu. It might fix it
01:24:37 <OliverK> emphasis on the might.
01:24:38 <gluxon> K.
01:24:43 <OliverK> also do a virus scan
01:24:53 <gluxon> Of course, the viruses... :(
01:24:58 <daBomb69> gluxon, didn't u just have a virus?
01:25:29 <OliverK> sorry if I seem to be stating the obvious
01:25:44 <gluxon> I did.
01:25:51 <gluxon> But my dad reinstalled XP.
01:25:55 <daBomb69> what was this virus doing?
01:25:57 <gluxon> Which leaves me with no backups of the menu.
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01:26:13 <daBomb69> u have ur menu in the C drive?
01:26:52 <gluxon> No.
01:26:57 <gluxon> The virus is gone.
01:26:59 <gluxon> I'm sure of that.
01:27:10 <daBomb69> Ok, what did the virus do?
01:28:01 <OliverK> daBomb69: tis gone, unless it got on the flash drive, which is possible
01:28:13 <OliverK> gluxon: do you have you're configuration file
01:28:20 <gluxon> No.
01:28:22 <gluxon> :(
01:28:33 <gluxon> OliverK: it infected some files.
01:28:38 <gluxon> But didn't harm the system.
01:28:50 <gluxon> McAfee pretty much got my drive cleared up.
01:29:05 <OliverK> sweetness
01:29:33 <OliverK> what kind of info do you need? If I recall from my playing, it doesn't act like pstart or asuite
01:29:46 <OliverK> except for the catagories, etc.
01:30:14 <gluxon> Gawd!!! Some of the weird files are like 20 megs!!!
01:30:23 <gluxon> These files are corrupted menu files.
01:30:26 <gluxon> And folder...
01:30:31 <gluxon> I'm going to try renaming them :P
01:30:59 <OliverK> hmm . ..
01:31:47 <gluxon> Nope, didn't work :(
01:32:10 <daBomb69> can u deleate them?
01:32:13 <OliverK> chkdsc will allow you to delete them, if need be
01:32:19 <gluxon> No.
01:32:24 <gluxon> I can't delete them.
01:32:33 <gluxon> I think I have to rename them first.
01:32:53 <daBomb69> do u have Xenon, or some other non-Explorer dile manager?
01:32:58 <OliverK> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080429191633AA6HIlc
01:33:06 <OliverK> gluxon: run chkdisc
01:33:27 <OliverK> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
01:33:28 <gluxon> Yeah.
01:33:36 <OliverK> that topic will guide you, if need be
01:33:46 <gluxon> OliverK, that'll take forever!!!
01:33:53 <OliverK> do it
01:33:57 <OliverK> how big is the drive?
01:34:00 <daBomb69> ok, open a non explorer file manager, then deleate the weird files, or rename them, or whatever
01:34:01 <gluxon> 8 gigs.
01:34:06 <gluxon> I've used up more than 7
01:34:26 <OliverK> daBomb69: if its locked by explorer, it may be locked else where
01:34:35 <OliverK> gluxon: that's the way it goes :(
01:35:06 <daBomb69> OliverK: Possible not, it's a known bug in Explorer that it often can't handle files with weird charecters properly
01:35:09 <OliverK> unfortenately you don't have much of a choice. I've had a occassion where not even a linux could delete the file
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01:35:30 * OliverK boots the old siler. One is enough :p
01:35:46 <gluxon> Forget it, I'm reinstalling.
01:36:16 <daBomb69> well, u've still got to get rid of the weird files somehow.
01:36:17 <OliverK> ?
01:36:24 <OliverK> yeah, that's the thing.
01:37:00 <OliverK> my suggestion is set it to run before you go to bed. You could even write a autohotkey script that would run chkdsc, then shut the computer down when finished. It's how I create my backups.
01:37:04 <daBomb69> Try it w/ Xenon, if that doesn't work, get FileAssin
01:37:10 <daBomb69> * FileAssassin
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01:37:27 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
01:37:31 <gluxon> Alright, I can't delete them.
01:37:44 <daBomb69> Even w/Xenon?
01:37:45 <OliverK> excid3!
01:37:51 <gluxon> OliverK... how about in NSIS? :P
01:37:53 * OliverK doesn't use xenon
01:37:56 <OliverK> still slow
01:37:57 <gluxon> Hey excid3
01:38:03 <OliverK> gluxon: you can, if you want to.
01:38:03 <excid3> lawl
01:38:08 <gluxon> I can't delete in Xenon either.
01:38:09 <excid3> hey guis
01:38:25 <OliverK> i've been called a lot of thing, but a user interface is new :D
01:38:27 <daBomb69> gluxon: ok, DL fileassassin
01:38:50 <gluxon> Waht is taht?
01:38:59 <rcmaehl> gluxon: my new domain is cfixer.co.cc
01:39:17 <gluxon> rcmaehl: You have to fix that link.
01:39:26 <gluxon> It leads back to the net(somethaiognosdgs) site.
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01:39:39 <daBomb69> gluxon: it is a program that will deleate a file, even if something else is using it. It killes the stuff thats using the files, and deleates it
01:39:48 <gluxon> Ok.
01:39:50 <gluxon> Link?
01:39:53 <OliverK> believe it or not, i wrote a "proof of concept" in NSIS. I"ll pastebin it for you
01:40:05 <gluxon> OliverK: I think I can manage :P
01:40:11 <daBomb69> .g FileAssassin
01:40:12 <pabot> daBomb69: http://www.malwarebytes.org/fileassassin.php
01:40:37 <OliverK> gluxon: but its all done :D http://oliverkrystal.pastebin.com/m2197ac37
01:40:50 <daBomb69> gluxon: use the link from pabot
01:40:58 <OliverK> SilerX: wassup?
01:41:00 <gluxon> K.
01:42:13 <gluxon> FileAssasin didn't work :(
01:42:25 <gluxon> It says it isn't there or it's not visable to FileAssasin.
01:42:32 <daBomb69> wtf
01:42:33 <daBomb69> wow
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01:43:02 <OliverK> blasted peer
01:43:07 * OliverK kicks peer
01:43:28 <daBomb69> wat does the Conneection reset by peer mean?
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01:44:45 * OliverK suggests googling
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01:45:08 <OliverK> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/w2000Msgs/5055.mspx?mfr=true
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01:45:19 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
01:45:32 <OliverK> maybe we be hving netsplits tonight
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01:46:49 <Mir> FREACK
01:46:55 <Mir> FRUCK
01:46:58 <Mir> FRAMMEL
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01:47:32 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
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01:48:21 <OliverK> Mir: whazzat?
01:49:42 <Mir> i hosed another install
01:49:55 <OliverK> of what?
01:50:03 <Mir> Damn Small Linux
01:50:15 <Mir> gentoo is down
01:50:20 <gluxon> I uninstalled FileAssasin... and then realized that I had reboot now checked... I noticed when it was too late :P
01:50:37 <Mir> i am desperate to install a linux based os on this computer i am working on
01:50:44 <gluxon> Use ubuntu :D
01:50:53 <OliverK> Mir: FEDORA!
01:50:57 <Mir> ubuntu has too high of specs
01:51:01 <Mir> neither will work
01:51:05 <daBomb69> Debian!
01:51:06 <OliverK> puppy
01:51:17 <Mir> puppy has a broken repo
01:51:19 <OliverK> daBomb69: have you been abusing my styapler :p
01:51:29 <OliverK> Mir: puppy has a broken everything :D
01:51:32 <gluxon> ... mandriva?
01:51:33 <OliverK> um . . .
01:51:39 <daBomb69> :P
01:51:41 <OliverK> mepis lite
01:51:43 <gluxon> OliverK: puppy is awesome...
01:51:47 <Mir> daBomb69: DSL is Debian based
01:51:52 <OliverK> its has its purposes
01:51:52 <daBomb69> oh
01:51:53 <Mir> DUHHHH
01:51:54 <gluxon> The only problem is the preinstalled apps.
01:51:58 <Mir> DURRR
01:52:05 <OliverK> the problem is the window manager
01:52:08 <OliverK> tis ugly
01:52:16 <OliverK> Mir: what about blueflopps?
01:52:20 <Mir> DSL has a UGLY manager
01:52:24 <Mir> blueflops is dead
01:52:33 <OliverK> dang
01:52:52 <OliverK> Mir: are you actually looking for one, or are we just shouting needlessly at you?
01:53:00 <OliverK> http://www.nimblex.net/
01:53:06 <OliverK> tis awesomeness in a can
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01:53:16 <Mir> i will try it
01:53:29 <Mir> you guys where shouting things i've tried
01:53:39 <OliverK> so, we were helpful?
01:53:41 <Mir> one of the many hosed installs
01:53:49 <Mir> not really
01:54:00 <OliverK> oh, you do you want know about the customm iso builder?
01:54:08 <Mir> sure
01:54:13 <OliverK> i was going to say that if we were, /me is blown away
01:54:20 <OliverK> http://custom.nimblex.net/
01:54:39 <OliverK> that's the awesomeness in a can with some bonus awesomesuace
01:54:48 <OliverK> and maybe some benawsome as well
01:55:07 <Mir> d00d
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01:55:24 <Mir> OOo requires more ram than this POS has
01:55:50 <OliverK> Hello, sui. Is there something that the PortableApps.com community can help you with today?
01:55:56 <OliverK> tab phail
01:56:05 <OliverK> Hello, Sui_Dorimu. Is there something that the PortableApps.com community can help you with today?
01:56:25 <Mir> 380mh amd K6 with 64MB ram and a 6GB hard drive
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01:56:28 <Mir> oh
01:56:34 <daBomb69> hello Sui_Dorimu, how can we help you today?
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01:56:45 <Mir> the only saving grace is its got a DVD-ROM drive
01:57:00 <Suiseiseki> sorry, ISP sucks
01:57:05 <Suiseiseki> or client
01:57:07 <OliverK> ah
01:57:09 <Mir> no prob
01:57:23 <OliverK> Mir: how about Windows NT 4.0 then?
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01:58:03 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
01:59:33 * Bensawsome looks around the rooms <_< >_>
01:59:37 <Bensawsome> *room
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02:00:51 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
02:01:50 <gluxon> bye
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02:02:25 * OliverK kicks :D
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02:02:28 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
02:02:28 * Bensawsome then drags him into #portableApps-mugging and mugs him
02:02:33 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller ^_^
02:02:35 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: have you been to #portableapps-rt?
02:02:38 <ChrisMorgan> Hey JohnTHaller :-)
02:02:40 <daBomb69> hello JohnTHaller
02:02:42 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: YUP
02:02:44 <ChrisMorgan> Have you been to -rt either?
02:02:48 <OliverK> ;et me get my pop!
02:02:50 <OliverK> argh!
02:02:51 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
02:02:52 <OliverK> "op
02:02:56 <OliverK> :p
02:02:58 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: not on your auto-join list?
02:03:50 <ChrisMorgan> WinDjView looks like a nice piece of software to do a portable version of :-)
02:04:42 * ChrisMorgan has decided that with open source apps it's better to find where it stores its settings from the source code, and /then/ try it :D
02:05:09 <Bensawsome> darn i wanna talk T_T
02:05:09 <JohnTHaller> virtualbox + regshot is easier
02:05:11 <Bensawsome> lol
02:05:15 <Bensawsome> ya
02:05:22 <Bensawsome> hey JohnTHaller: come into #portableApps-rt :D
02:05:43 <JohnTHaller> finally setup my channels in pidgin so i don't have to manually join stuff
02:06:20 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: mebbe. I like the geeky way though ;-)
02:06:29 <Bensawsome> lol
02:06:45 <ChrisMorgan> And for some things it makes it easier. e.g. WinDjView I found that the first place it looks is in the contents of that environment variable.
02:06:51 <ChrisMorgan> So that makes redirection faster to work out.
02:06:56 * JohnTHaller is working on platform 1.2. finally fixed the theme alignment issues (33 images and 10 labels now line up right). still fixing a renaming bug for apps in PAF.
02:07:08 <ZachThibeau> cool
02:07:13 <OliverK> sweet!
02:07:32 * daBomb69 cheers at thought of PA menu 1.2
02:07:55 <Bensawsome> KEWL
02:08:30 <JohnTHaller> a test version is coming in the next 3 days come hell or high water
02:08:40 <Bensawsome> o_0
02:08:50 <ChrisMorgan> Where have I heard a similar statement... :P
02:08:51 <daBomb69> seriously, AWESOME!!!! will it be in the beta forums?
02:08:56 <ChrisMorgan> God to hear John :-)
02:09:02 <JohnTHaller> beta forums. prob in rss feed, too
02:09:20 * daBomb69 cheers joyfully
02:12:30 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: could Turbo Delphi 2006 be used for the Platform?
02:13:28 <JohnTHaller> nope
02:13:43 <JohnTHaller> we use addons that it doesn't support
02:14:12 <ChrisMorgan> ah k
02:14:26 <ChrisMorgan> So there's no free version to do it with>
02:14:27 <ChrisMorgan> ?
02:14:49 <diib> How are we today people?
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02:15:08 <JohnTHaller> nope
02:15:39 <ChrisMorgan> Thinking of "no free version", will RT members have access to the splash screen stuff to make 'em?
02:15:53 <ChrisMorgan> If so, do we need to buy the font ourselves?
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02:17:03 <JohnTHaller> the font is the rub. i've got a template, but ya need the font
02:17:09 <DaveDixonII> Oh. rcmaehi was here
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02:18:13 * OliverK votes for changing the font
02:18:43 * Bensawsome wants an open source font
02:18:58 * daBomb69 agree's w/ Bensawesome
02:19:09 * Bensawsome ^_^
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02:19:34 <OliverK> silence! The great JTH shall now rule upon the subject (perhaps)
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02:19:39 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
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02:20:12 <ChrisMorgan> Buggy Win98 machine which locks up regularly :-(
02:20:15 <ChrisMorgan> palogbot: uri?
02:20:15 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-02-25#T02-20-15
02:20:28 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: we didn't do much after you left
02:20:31 <Bensawsome> ....d
02:20:35 <ChrisMorgan> Note to self: seems that it may be something to do with pressing the x button...
02:20:37 <Bensawsome> 98 ChrisMorgan?
02:20:44 <ChrisMorgan> Yar.
02:20:49 <Bensawsome> lol............
02:20:51 <SergentSiler> ChrisMorgan, time to update XP
02:20:53 <ChrisMorgan> School library still has W98 machines
02:20:56 <SergentSiler> ah
02:20:59 <Bensawsome> XD
02:21:13 <ChrisMorgan> Not on Celeron 1GHz + 256MB RAM
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02:21:24 <ChrisMorgan> Let alone Celeron 167MHz+64MB RAM.
02:21:34 <ChrisMorgan> Two of each
02:21:41 <ChrisMorgan> plus another inbetween
02:21:43 <Bensawsome> lol
02:21:47 <Bensawsome> lies
02:22:12 <Bensawsome> ChrisMorgan: i have xp on a 350 mhz 256 mb ram 6gb hdd laptop :P
02:22:22 <Bensawsome> works perfect ^_^
02:22:32 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: I didn't mention the other hardware...
02:22:40 <ChrisMorgan> Including the size of the hard drive.
02:22:44 <Bensawsome> so :P
02:22:45 <Bensawsome> lol
02:22:47 <ChrisMorgan> XP has trouble installing in 2GB.
02:23:00 <Bensawsome> oh... lol
02:23:01 <Bensawsome> :P
02:23:10 <Bensawsome> get a 4gb usb drive XD
02:23:23 <ChrisMorgan> ... a white lie if you wish, this machine has a 30GB hard drive :P
02:23:23 <Bensawsome> ORRRRRRRR! make a beowulf cluster :D
02:23:30 <Bensawsome> XD
02:23:37 <ChrisMorgan> I was tellin' the truth though, XP does have trouble installnig in 2GB :P
02:23:46 <Bensawsome> i still say make a beowulf cluster :P
02:23:55 * OliverK agreess
02:23:58 <ChrisMorgan> Not here. Games are now banned school-wide.
02:24:12 <Bensawsome> .....
02:24:17 <Bensawsome> ChrisMorgan: it isnt a game
02:24:50 <Bensawsome> a beowulf cluster is when you connect a bunch of computers together and they run as one computer
02:25:06 <SergentSiler> ChrisMorgan, ive installed Win XP on 2Gb and it worked fine :P
02:25:22 <Bensawsome> lol
02:25:24 <ChrisMorgan> ah. anyway...
02:25:33 <SergentSiler> twas an IBM PC 300Gl :P
02:25:40 <Bensawsome> you would know wouldnt you SergentSiler :P
02:25:42 <Bensawsome> lol
02:25:47 <Bensawsome> all those old ass computers
02:25:50 <SergentSiler> yes i would :D
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02:25:59 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
02:25:59 <Bensawsome> SergentSiler: try installing it on the commodore XXXXDDDDDD
02:26:03 <SergentSiler> btw i found my C64 right after you left Bensawsome :P
02:26:07 <Bensawsome> :D
02:26:09 <Bensawsome> nice
02:26:11 <SergentSiler> it was next to my tv :P
02:26:15 <Bensawsome> now install xp on it :P
02:26:17 <Bensawsome> lol
02:26:18 <SergentSiler> XD
02:26:23 <Bensawsome> hey KevinPorter ^_^
02:26:24 <SergentSiler> it will take about 5 days
02:26:29 <SergentSiler> oheythar KevinPorter :P
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02:26:31 <Bensawsome> i finally got a shell at shellium :D
02:26:36 <SergentSiler> nice
02:26:42 <KevinPorter> Evenin' Bensawsome, SergentSiler. :)
02:26:44 <Bensawsome> lol true dat SergentSiler
02:26:53 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: They like you more. :(
02:26:57 <Bensawsome> >_>
02:26:58 <SergentSiler> 1Mhz proc makes it so Bensawsome
02:27:02 <Bensawsome> XD
02:27:15 <Bensawsome> damn i think i have a tumor or something below my ear :/
02:27:17 <SergentSiler> and 64 Kb ram limits what i can do XD
02:27:38 <SergentSiler> maybe its a zit :P
02:27:42 <Bensawsome> ...
02:27:42 <OliverK> Bensawsome: sweetness
02:27:44 <KevinPorter> SergentSiler: You either haven't taken your meds... or you need to start taking some meds. :P
02:27:48 <OliverK> I haven't been there in awhile :(
02:27:53 <SergentSiler> KevinPorter, no
02:27:54 <SergentSiler> BAD
02:27:58 <SergentSiler> dont go there
02:27:59 <KevinPorter> Lol.
02:28:12 <Bensawsome> ....
02:28:15 <SergentSiler> they already screwed me up for 10 years with meds i didnt need
02:28:25 <SergentSiler> so no moar kthnxbai
02:28:31 <SergentSiler> ;)
02:28:47 <KevinPorter> :|
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02:29:36 <bensawso1e> >_> shellium ^_^
02:29:57 <SergentSiler> lol
02:30:07 <SergentSiler> so1e....interesting
02:30:07 <bensawso1e> hello KevinPorter >_> should have tried shellium.org :P
02:30:10 <bensawso1e> lol
02:30:18 <SergentSiler> as in i will eat your so1e?
02:30:24 <SergentSiler> :D
02:30:24 <KevinPorter> I did, but I didn't get any vouches. :(
02:30:27 * bensawso1e eats SergentSiler's arm
02:30:30 <SergentSiler> D:
02:30:42 <bensawso1e> well the hardest part was getting the first one KevinPorter
02:30:52 <bensawso1e> after that because you have one you get more notice
02:31:00 <bensawso1e> and id be glad to give you one ^_^
02:31:21 <KevinPorter> Maybe I'll come back. You and Patrick can get me my first two. :P
02:31:28 <bensawso1e> and why am i talking on here when i have xchat open........
02:31:31 <bensawso1e> byby
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02:31:36 <Bensawsome> lol
02:31:47 <KevinPorter> But you have to wait a week before you can start giving out vouches.
02:31:54 <Bensawsome> ya i know >_>
02:32:00 * Bensawsome got in yesterday
02:32:07 <Bensawsome> brb
02:32:10 * KevinPorter will wait six more days.
02:32:22 <OliverK> Bensawsome: dang :9
02:32:55 * SergentSiler self hosts TYVM
02:34:16 * Bensawsome eats ur self host
02:34:18 <purple> anyone watched Oscar awards?
02:34:19 <Bensawsome> lol
02:34:29 * Bensawsome eats the oscar awards
02:34:33 <Bensawsome> MUAHAHAHA!
02:34:41 <SergentSiler> lol
02:34:41 * daBomb69 eats Bensawesome
02:34:53 * SergentSiler force feeds Bensawsome the oscar awards
02:35:01 <SergentSiler> Away they must go!
02:35:12 * Bensawsome spits up acid in daBomb69's throat
02:35:16 <purple> i need the name of Kate Vinslets movie
02:35:17 <Bensawsome> BURN THROUGH
02:35:21 <SergentSiler> what better place then the human black hole? ;)
02:35:23 * Bensawsome gets out of daBomb69
02:35:25 <ZachThibeau> guys in -ot please ;)
02:35:29 <SergentSiler> :P
02:35:29 * daBomb69 eats some antiacid
02:35:36 <SergentSiler> daBomb69, -ot
02:35:46 * Bensawsome drags daBomb69's limp body into #PortableApps-OT
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02:42:57 <SergentSiler> split/join fest?
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02:43:20 <SergentSiler> XD
02:43:27 <SergentSiler> .tell sancas phail?
02:43:27 <pabot> SergentSiler: I'll pass that on when I next see sancas.
02:44:15 <Bensawsome> /nick sancas
02:44:16 <Bensawsome> lol
02:44:20 * Bensawsome gets the tell
02:44:32 <SergentSiler> lol
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02:54:29 <DaveDixonII> SrgSiler|Sleep: Hopefully he understands your english. :/
02:54:31 <DaveDixonII> Havvy: Welcome
02:55:25 <SrgSiler|Sleep> wha?
02:55:43 <SrgSiler|Sleep> DaveDixonII, what u talking bout?
02:55:59 <DaveDixonII> He knows as much english as i know spanish. :P
02:56:16 <DaveDixonII> AKA: Pretty bad. :P
02:58:00 <SrgSiler|Sleep> XD
02:58:17 <JohnTHaller> Hey guys, question for all...
02:58:32 <DaveDixonII> Yessir. Shoot.
02:58:42 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: shoot
02:58:59 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: Shoot
02:59:02 <JohnTHaller> Ok, so you know the new theme I shopped around right?
02:59:19 <OliverK> no . . .
02:59:25 <daBomb69> not really...
02:59:30 <JohnTHaller> hang on... will post link...
02:59:33 <Bensawsome> no >_
02:59:34 <OliverK> cool
02:59:35 <Bensawsome> lol ok ^_^
02:59:36 <DaveDixonII> For what exactly.
03:00:00 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/PlatformThemePreview.png
03:00:15 <DaveDixonII> Yea!
03:00:19 <DaveDixonII> I've seen it.
03:00:20 <Bensawsome> TEH BEST EVAH
03:00:26 <daBomb69> awesome!!!!
03:00:42 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: sweet
03:00:43 <Bensawsome> NO daBomb69: awsome :P
03:00:55 <daBomb69> :P
03:00:58 <OliverK> Bensawsome: with awsome suace?
03:00:58 <daBomb69> awsome
03:00:58 <DaveDixonII> Okay okay. Shh
03:01:02 <Havvy> What's new?
03:01:11 <Bensawsome> yarly OliverK!
03:01:12 <DaveDixonII> Let John talk.
03:01:16 <JohnTHaller> Alright... originally that was gonna be 2.0 which we were gonna add categories, the app updater, theme switching and advanced theming (alter size of form, move stuff around)
03:02:37 <DaveDixonII> Your not moving it are you?
03:02:40 <OliverK> k . . .
03:03:07 <JohnTHaller> Now I'm thinking I'm gonna bundle it into the next release which I'm gonna call 1.5. It includes the new theming engine (menu background, icons, buttons, rollovers are all PNGs). but I can't build in the theme switcher as we can't get it translated in time. so theme switching would be a simple addin , english only for now, with red, blue, green, black, white and classic themes and the ability to load your own from older s
03:03:33 <DaveDixonII> That sounds nice. :)
03:03:35 <daBomb69> good idea
03:03:59 <JohnTHaller> I'll post about it when I post the preview.
03:04:21 <Bensawsome> cool ^_^
03:04:22 <DaveDixonII> Okay. :)
03:04:28 <daBomb69> cool!:)
03:04:55 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: awesomeness
03:04:59 <OliverK> and now, I have to leave :(
03:05:03 <JohnTHaller> So, 1.5 will get renaming (with GUI), hiding (renaming it to a minus sign), run as (ctrl click), version in mouseover info, new theme engine, PAF support (appinfo.ini and appicon.ico), icon caching, run on startup/exit (manually edit the INI), desktop hiding (INI), no fade by default (enable with INI), etc
03:05:06 <OliverK> good night all
03:05:29 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: this is the one coming out in the 3 days?
03:05:31 <OliverK> or after?
03:05:45 <Bensawsome> totally tubularness
03:06:01 <OliverK> but whatever, it sounds good
03:06:07 <JohnTHaller> yes. the test is coming out within a couple days. final is out on tuesday
03:06:08 * DaveDixonII thinks we should talk like normal people when JohnTHaller is talking. :P
03:06:20 <JohnTHaller> site will get a mild visual update to match the color scheme of the default theme, too
03:06:25 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: by thursday?
03:06:27 <Bensawsome> :D
03:06:35 <DaveDixonII> JohnTHaller: Sounds good. Can't wait. :)
03:06:35 <JohnTHaller> friday will be test. tuesday will be release
03:06:38 <OliverK> thursday would be awesomeness :D
03:06:39 <Bensawsome> O_O
03:06:42 <OliverK> fine
03:06:43 <daBomb69> sounds like an awesome menu
03:06:46 <daBomb69> :-D
03:06:49 * OliverK makes special drive to library
03:06:56 <OliverK> that or I stop by on the way home :D
03:07:00 <OliverK> bye all
03:07:01 * Bensawsome eats the library
03:07:04 <Bensawsome> cya OliverK
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03:14:29 <JohnTHaller> alright. I'll post about it in the forums tomorrow. I removed the original right-click menu for now since we don't have translations. so if you right-click you can rename. if you control click, you can Run As (admin, etc)
03:16:38 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: Personaly, I think the old icons were better, but the new ones will look cool 2
03:17:19 <JohnTHaller> new ones are gpl as opposed to the tango license. and somebody from the tango projects was being annoying about us using them in the menu. better to not deal with it and ditch em
03:17:30 <daBomb69> oh, kk
03:18:41 <daBomb69> What exactly is the Tango license?
03:19:02 <JohnTHaller> CC attribution license, which is incompatible with most open source
03:19:15 <daBomb69> oh, kk
03:22:25 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: Just wondering, have u gotten the issue with the XeroBank people's resolved yet?
03:22:59 <JohnTHaller> nope. they refuse to accept responsibility and ignored my last post about the proof.
03:23:36 <daBomb69> wow, those xB peoples r MEAN!
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03:25:14 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: So, now what are you going to try to do about XeroBank?
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03:25:49 <JohnTHaller> PatrickPatience: check the log for the last few minutes for info on the platform 1.5 release
03:26:15 <JohnTHaller> going back a lil under 30 mins actually
03:28:26 <PatrickPatience> Mmm, kay.
03:28:38 <JohnTHaller> up to speed?
03:28:39 <PatrickPatience> Also, you can send Task Coach on its way. It's working fine for me.
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03:28:44 <PatrickPatience> JohnTHaller: Nope.
03:28:54 <PatrickPatience> And I'll try to send you a BonkEnc update tomorrow.
03:28:58 <JohnTHaller> ok, read and lemme know yourthouths
03:28:58 <PatrickPatience> Let me catch up on the logs.
03:29:04 <PatrickPatience> palogbot: uri
03:29:04 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-02-25#T03-29-04
03:29:08 <JohnTHaller> email me about task coach so I have it
03:29:12 <PatrickPatience> Or not.
03:29:25 <PatrickPatience> Kay.
03:29:33 <JohnTHaller> here: http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/?t=2009-02-25#T03-01-16
03:29:58 <JohnTHaller> theme preview i'm referring to: http://portableapps.com/temp/PlatformThemePreview.png
03:30:39 <PatrickPatience> As per the font, how about which ever of us can pitch in for a multiple user license?
03:31:50 <JohnTHaller> if someone has photoshop and the font they can do it. but it's really not necesssary. it's the testing that's the holdup
03:32:39 <PatrickPatience> Sweet, the site theme update will be planned for the coming week?
03:33:27 <PatrickPatience> Ahh, appinfo.ini support.
03:33:33 <PatrickPatience> And it will pull the appicon.ini as well?
03:33:51 <JohnTHaller> yes
03:33:59 <JohnTHaller> and for nonPAF apps it'll cache the icons
03:34:12 <PatrickPatience> " hiding (renaming it to a minus sign),"
03:34:17 <PatrickPatience> What do you mean minus sign?
03:34:41 <PatrickPatience> Happen to ever get that FAQ module running?
03:34:58 <JohnTHaller> faw module is lower priority
03:35:01 <JohnTHaller> on the list
03:35:30 <JohnTHaller> there is a gui to rename app icons. to hide them, you bring it up and rename it to a minus sign. basically, there's no true gui for hiding, so it's a temp workaround
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03:36:50 <PatrickPatience> Ahh.
03:37:31 <JohnTHaller> easier than making people edit an INI
03:37:41 <JohnTHaller> no GUI due to not enough time to translate
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03:38:06 <pabot> rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D
03:38:13 <rbrt13> hello
03:38:20 <daBomb69> hello rbrt13
03:39:19 <DaveDixonII> rbrt13: Hello friend from 5 miles away. :)
03:39:50 <rbrt13> never use FreeProxy and freenode at the same time
03:39:58 <rbrt13> freenode will ban you
03:40:15 <JohnTHaller> using proxies will get you banned from a lot of things
03:40:27 <DaveDixonII> Actually. It was banned in the first place. Lol
03:41:21 <daBomb69> JohnTHaller: How do you make that launcher thing thats in the first file of a program? The one that shows up in the PA menu?
03:41:26 <rbrt13> i was using it to share my dial up connection
03:41:42 <DaveDixonII> That's what i thought. :/
03:41:58 <JohnTHaller> you need to write a launcher. you can use nsis. there are some how to posts in the forums... a guerilla guide somewhere
03:42:34 <daBomb69> ok, then u just compile the launcher, and its done?
03:43:22 <JohnTHaller> read the PAF specs in the development section
03:43:34 <daBomb69> kk, thnx
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03:45:04 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
03:52:00 <daBomb69> What if we don't know the licenseing, and the website doesn't say
03:52:32 <JohnTHaller> you have to ask
03:55:29 <daBomb69> If you can DL the source code from the website, is it automaticaly considered OSS?
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03:56:48 <JohnTHaller> no
03:57:07 <daBomb69> oh,
03:57:26 <JohnTHaller> you can not repackage or redistribute any software without permission. most open source licenses give you that permission. unles you have a license giving you that permission, you have to specifically get it from the copyright holder.
03:58:02 <JohnTHaller> of course, we're kinda the only portable software site that actually respects copyright and trademark law and open source licenses... but still... we do it right and recommend others do the same
03:58:33 <daBomb69> ok
04:09:11 <JohnTHaller> gnight all
04:09:20 <daBomb69> goodnight JohnTHaller
04:09:23 <ZachThibeau> night JohnTHaller
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04:28:10 <ZachThibeau> ...
04:35:37 <rbrt13> does anyone here know how to properly use the PHP Bytecode compiler?
04:36:05 <rbrt13> i need to make modules for r-bot
04:36:21 <rbrt13> and that is how i am going to do it
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04:40:05 <rbrt13> hello
04:40:21 <PatrickPatience> Well hi.
04:49:45 <ZachThibeau> night all
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04:57:27 <alpha1beta> hello
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05:14:59 <Mir> BLEH @ alpha1beta
05:15:11 <alpha1beta> Mir!
05:15:15 <alpha1beta> sup
05:15:25 <Mir> i converted
05:15:28 <Mir> *SOB*
05:15:31 <alpha1beta> to?
05:15:36 <Mir> i am no longer a Suseian
05:15:43 <Mir> T__T
05:15:48 <alpha1beta> go kill yourself!
05:15:49 <alpha1beta> :P
05:15:57 <Mir> ;>o<;
05:16:00 <alpha1beta> you an embarrassment to nature
05:16:03 <Mir> you so mean
05:16:21 <Mir> who said i am natural
05:16:21 <alpha1beta> what could be better than suse? WHAT?!
05:16:27 <Mir> i am from Califonria
05:16:56 <alpha1beta> I know that
05:17:32 <Mir> psst
05:17:38 <Mir> it starts with a K
05:17:41 <Mir> :O
05:17:58 <Mir> and ends with X
05:18:16 <Mir> and is not related to Minix
05:18:43 * Mir notes Minix fails as a consumable OS
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05:20:11 <pabot> upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/.
05:21:29 <alpha1beta> idk mir, what?
05:21:59 * Mir is not telling because you where mean >:|
05:22:06 <Mir> i am telling TimClark
05:22:09 <Mir> :p
05:22:18 <upnPAD> *were
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05:22:30 <Mir> thanks
05:23:56 <alpha1beta> oh you'll tell tim, but no me...fine be that way...meany...
05:24:30 <Mir> :p
05:24:32 <Mir> night
05:24:35 <alpha1beta> later
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05:37:35 <TaffinFoxcroft> who's the smiley?
05:38:18 <alpha1beta> what...
05:39:02 <TaffinFoxcroft> just under Mir there's a person logged on with a smiley as the nickname
05:44:35 <alpha1beta> lol..he's an odd fellow
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05:45:08 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi excid3/
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06:00:16 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
06:00:34 <ChrisMorgan> Whoa... it's worth reading logs sometimes! http://portableapps.com/temp/PlatformThemePreview.png
06:00:36 <ChrisMorgan> Neat!
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06:01:13 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
06:01:29 <alpha1beta> hey chris, how's it going?
06:01:42 <ChrisMorgan> Whoops... whenever I use Google Chrome I seem to get caught by Alt+Left doing back rather than previous tab...
06:01:45 <ChrisMorgan> fine
06:01:58 <ChrisMorgan> Solution is to open http://www.mibbit.com/chat/ in a new tab so it doesn't have history.
06:02:10 <ChrisMorgan> But the new tab page counts as history... :/
06:02:21 <alpha1beta> lol
06:02:24 <alpha1beta> or use FF
06:02:42 <ChrisMorgan> FFF is just so sloooowwww and unresponsive
06:02:43 <ChrisMorgan> *FFP
06:02:44 <alpha1beta> you see Safari 4 beta? OMG it looks exactly like chrome
06:02:50 <alpha1beta> FFP is slow :/
06:03:09 <ChrisMorgan> Really, Google Chrome is just plain /fast/.
06:03:19 <alpha1beta> yea, I think safari 4 beats it
06:03:22 <ChrisMorgan> Wonder how it'd run on an MSI Wind U100...
06:03:26 <alpha1beta> I know* don't think :P
06:03:32 <alpha1beta> you got a netbook?
06:03:35 <ChrisMorgan> Safari wins in some things, loses in others.
06:03:46 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: no, but very seriously considering getting one.
06:03:53 <alpha1beta> but this is a brand new version, you should at least consider it
06:04:08 <ChrisMorgan> You know why Safari is so fast?
06:04:12 <alpha1beta> if you get 1, HP has the best bang for the buck, last I saw
06:04:20 <alpha1beta> yep, it's webkit
06:04:20 <ChrisMorgan> The answer starts with a W and ends with a T.
06:04:29 <ChrisMorgan> :D
06:04:36 <alpha1beta> what? you think I'm stupid?
06:05:16 <alpha1beta> I've been working with/around computer most of your life
06:05:26 <alpha1beta> I think...how old are you...
06:05:42 * TaffinFoxcroft notes that Digsby uses WebKit
06:06:05 * ChrisMorgan is 16, 17 in under 2 months
06:06:17 <ChrisMorgan> The HP one is more expensive, but just about all you get for it is a better keyboard.
06:06:24 <ChrisMorgan> Too much more expensive for me.
06:06:29 <alpha1beta> oh, why'd I think you were on our 13 year olds,
06:06:32 <TaffinFoxcroft> ChrisMorgan: /me is fifteen in less than a month
06:06:36 <ChrisMorgan> :o
06:06:49 <alpha1beta> sorry, I just kinda thought I remembered that, guess I was wrong for once
06:06:54 <alpha1beta> I is 18 and a half
06:07:17 <ChrisMorgan> The MSI Wind retails for AU$749, but you can get it for AU$595 from e.g. MSY - and there's one in Box Hill, only 2km from me.
06:07:24 <ChrisMorgan> With the 6-cell battery and 160GB HDD
06:07:50 <alpha1beta> around here the Hp is much cheaper than almost anything except 1 version of the ee
06:08:01 <alpha1beta> why not go you a linux netbook chris?
06:08:31 <TaffinFoxcroft> like an eeePC?
06:08:56 <ChrisMorgan> TaffinFoxcroft: nah, I really want a 10" monitor, and the eees with 10" monitors are too expensive
06:09:18 * TaffinFoxcroft has a Dell Studio with vista SP1 and its working alright
06:09:24 <alpha1beta> well any linux thing, eee, Hp, the MSI
06:09:35 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: because I want to do PortableApps.com stuff with it without needing to depend on WINE :-)
06:09:43 <alpha1beta> with linux it's usually $100 American cheaper
06:09:48 <alpha1beta> dual boot?
06:10:12 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: yeah, but I don't have a spare Windows license and would like XP with it.
06:10:22 <ChrisMorgan> And I might be able to get 98 and 2000 licenses from school.
06:10:36 <alpha1beta> I can give you a 200 licence
06:10:38 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: so you mean the HP Mini 1000?
06:10:39 <alpha1beta> 2000*
06:10:49 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: what from?
06:10:55 <ChrisMorgan> School has spares I believe.
06:11:08 <alpha1beta> I have 5 licences, old stuff I got cheap, and now runs linux
06:11:17 <ChrisMorgan> Though some of the 98 ones may be being used as backing for an XP upgrade version
06:12:09 <TaffinFoxcroft> they could use WinFLP :D
06:12:28 <ChrisMorgan> FLP?
06:12:35 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: HP Mini 1000?
06:12:45 <alpha1beta> yes, but there's a couple others to
06:13:12 <ChrisMorgan> (i.e. not the Mini-note 2133)
06:13:13 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
06:13:43 <alpha1beta> I've used this 1
06:13:44 <alpha1beta> http://www.notebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/hp_2133_front_goog1-500x353.jpg
06:13:55 <alpha1beta> tooo small, weird mouse buttons
06:14:13 <ChrisMorgan> http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=HP+Mini+1000&spos=1 - starts at AU$723 - whereas the MSI one at 595 is 128 cheaper.
06:15:04 <alpha1beta> how much is 723 au? in american
06:15:09 <alpha1beta> general idea
06:15:30 <ChrisMorgan> Interesting... Mini-note 2133 for AU$549 http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=HP+Mini-note+price:100..&spos=1
06:15:33 <ChrisMorgan> And from HT!
06:15:38 <ChrisMorgan> Should be able to get it even cheaper then
06:15:47 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: hmm... add on ~50% atm
06:16:01 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, x2/3
06:16:05 <ChrisMorgan> For your way
06:16:11 <ChrisMorgan> .calc 723*2/3
06:16:15 <pabot> 723*2/3 = 482
06:16:23 <alpha1beta> not bad
06:16:25 <ChrisMorgan> ~USD482
06:16:27 <Havvy> .calc i^2
06:16:28 <pabot> i^2 = -1
06:16:30 <alpha1beta> but I bet you could do better
06:16:38 <Havvy> .calc sqrt(-1)
06:16:39 <pabot> sqrt(-1) = -1 sqrt
06:16:43 <Havvy> :(
06:17:07 <ChrisMorgan> .calc 549*2/3
06:17:09 <pabot> 549*2/3 = 366
06:17:23 <ChrisMorgan> .calc (-1)^(1/2)
06:17:24 <pabot> (-1)^(1/2) = 1 i
06:18:09 <ChrisMorgan> btw, alpha1beta, because of the Australian "Education Tax Refund", I could claim back 50% of what I paid.
06:18:19 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: so which do you have?
06:19:32 <Havvy> Oh duh...
06:19:41 <Havvy> .calc =1^(1/4)
06:19:44 <pabot> =1^(1/4) = ?
06:19:45 <Havvy> .calc =-1^(1/4)
06:19:46 <pabot> =-1^(1/4) = ?
06:19:58 <alpha1beta> I don't have any, I have a tablet pc, no exactly a netbook, but it's 12.1 and like 2 pound, but I've used the older HP 1000 series, didn't like it, I worked on the newer version, the shinny black 1, and it was a big improvement
06:19:58 <Havvy> .calc (-1)^(1/4)
06:20:00 <pabot> (-1)^(1/4) = ( 0.7071067811865476 + 0.7071067811865475 i )
06:20:20 <alpha1beta> I've worked on the eee linux and XP, decent, but not terribly impressed
06:20:32 <ChrisMorgan> Vista Business! 8.9" monitor! Nuh uh for the Mini-note 2133 then.
06:21:00 <ChrisMorgan> anyway, it's a clearance model, probably not available.
06:21:16 <alpha1beta> I run windows 7 on my tablet, and on my desktops, I run suse, opensolaris, XP, and kubuntu
06:21:21 <ChrisMorgan> I reckon that the MSI Wind U100 is best for me.
06:22:04 <alpha1beta> I did use 1 of those, not terribly impressed, but not disappointing,
06:22:47 <ChrisMorgan> APC gave it "Editors Choice" in their current issue, the only one to get it.
06:22:56 <ChrisMorgan> The HP one only got "Highly Recommended"
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06:23:05 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
06:23:17 <ChrisMorgan> Hey excid3
06:23:19 <alpha1beta> you use any of these yourself?
06:23:26 <alpha1beta> back again excid3? :P
06:23:33 <ChrisMorgan> No, I haven't used any of them.
06:23:33 <excid3> hey guys
06:23:37 <excid3> yeah im at my apt now
06:24:01 <ChrisMorgan> I'd be intending to ask/demand to try it out for a bit before buying.
06:24:19 <alpha1beta> got any friends with 1
06:24:34 * ChrisMorgan looks on Trading Post
06:24:59 <ChrisMorgan> Nah, school IT guy (teacher) was interested in the MSI one but hasn't done anything about it.
06:25:04 * alpha1beta forgot chris has no friends :P
06:25:07 <alpha1beta> Jk dude
06:25:40 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
06:25:48 <ChrisMorgan> Just none with netbooks.
06:25:52 <alpha1beta> what's your spending limit? and are you absolutely need a XP licence with it
06:25:55 <ChrisMorgan> The craze hasn't hit our school yet.
06:26:01 <ChrisMorgan> I would like XP with it.
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06:26:10 <ChrisMorgan> Spending limit is not defined. Just relatively cheap.
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06:27:27 <alpha1beta> well the craze won't hit my school, students at least, half of them have school issues tablet pcs, so they can't bring their own
06:27:32 <alpha1beta> sup rmccue
06:27:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi rmccue
06:27:40 <ChrisMorgan> Hey rmccue
06:28:03 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... our school doesn't have laptops.
06:28:15 <rmccue> Our school has laptops.
06:28:20 <rmccue> For science class use only.
06:28:22 <rmccue> They suck.
06:28:28 <rmccue> Oh, and hi btw.
06:28:43 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
06:28:50 <TaffinFoxcroft> ChrisMorgan: a dell studio? http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop_studio_17?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
06:29:02 <alpha1beta> we have 400 of 800 students with school issues tablet pcs, Hp 4400's, then 80 teachers with old gateway tablets, and me, with my own
06:29:46 <rmccue> I plan on getting a MacBook at some point.
06:29:47 * ChrisMorgan was thinking today... ~2.5kg of Physics text book, ~1.5kg each of Maths Methods and Specialist Maths textbooks, each with full PDF+more on a CD... put it all on a 1.3kg netbook, and... good for your back :D
06:29:56 * ChrisMorgan is currently looking at http://www.tradingpost.com.au/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Sensis-TradingPost-Site/en_AU/-/AUD/ViewResultPage-Sorting?CatalogCategoryID=27IKqbIhHfcAAAEa7TQAigqY
06:30:42 <Havvy> .calc (i)^(1/i)
06:30:44 <pabot> (i)^(1/i) = 4.81048
06:30:48 <Havvy> :)
06:30:49 <alpha1beta> ChrisMorgan :D exactly!
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06:31:04 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
06:31:40 <ChrisMorgan> Satellite Pro L300 for $620... that sounds actually pretty good. http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Computers/Notebooks-PDAs/Notebooks-Laptops/AdNumber=TP001657779?BackToResult=true
06:31:43 <ChrisMorgan> Hey dragonmage
06:31:44 <dragonmage> hi all
06:32:03 <ChrisMorgan> TaffinFoxcroft: Dell Studio looks interesting
06:32:26 <TaffinFoxcroft> i got the previous model for christmas
06:32:37 <TaffinFoxcroft> it was about $599
06:32:38 <rmccue> Havvy: What's Santa Claus multiplied by i?
06:32:45 <rmccue> Havvy: I guess that makes him real.
06:32:45 <TaffinFoxcroft> http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop_studio_15?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
06:32:46 <Havvy> I don't know.
06:32:50 <TaffinFoxcroft> iSanta
06:32:56 <ChrisMorgan> .calc santa claus * i
06:32:58 <pabot> santa claus * i = 1 i claus santa
06:33:11 <Havvy> It's the newest gadget from Apple! iSanta!
06:33:39 <ChrisMorgan> What, they're giving laptops away? :P
06:34:01 * rmccue <3 the iBad
06:34:03 <rmccue> * iBag
06:34:14 <ChrisMorgan> :o
06:34:15 <alpha1beta> rmccue is an ibad child
06:34:18 <TaffinFoxcroft> lulz
06:34:19 <ChrisMorgan> Bad rmccue!
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06:34:40 <TaffinFoxcroft> iBag has a zero compatability rate, why would you want one :P
06:34:45 <ChrisMorgan> TaffinFoxcroft: then I noticed that it was USD... :/
06:34:54 <ChrisMorgan> No, not for me.
06:34:55 <TaffinFoxcroft> hi Bjorn_H
06:35:05 <TaffinFoxcroft> ChrisMorgan: aussie retailer somewhere?
06:35:15 <ChrisMorgan> AU$1299
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06:36:08 <ChrisMorgan> Scary when the AU price is 2-2.5x the US price...
06:36:16 <rmccue> I just had an awesome idea.
06:36:17 <ChrisMorgan> Daylight robbery.
06:36:25 <rmccue> Corrupt a Wish... Live!
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06:36:31 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: you can't, that's Bensawsome's job :P
06:36:34 <ChrisMorgan> NOT HERE!
06:36:36 <TaffinFoxcroft> :D
06:36:53 <rmccue> I wish ChrisMorgan was cool...
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06:37:16 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
06:37:22 <ChrisMorgan> Couldn't stomach it :P
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06:38:50 <alpha1beta> *in Simeon cowel accent* ryan, that is the worse idea, I have ever heard of
06:40:19 <rmccue> alpha1beta, that was the worst accent I've ever heard.
06:40:43 <alpha1beta> touché
06:41:31 <ChrisMorgan> threeché
06:41:52 <upnPAD> IRC doesn't support phonetics
06:42:42 <ChrisMorgan> fourché!
06:42:46 <alpha1beta> *smack chrismorgan*
06:43:00 <ChrisMorgan> fiveché!
06:43:34 <ChrisMorgan> sixché! sevenché! eightché! nineché! tenché! *dong* He's out for the count!
06:43:38 <ChrisMorgan> (You get to decide who :P)
06:44:12 <alpha1beta> someone kick him!
06:44:25 <ChrisMorgan> nooooo....
06:44:35 <ChrisMorgan> to stop anyone else, should I kick myself?
06:45:02 <alpha1beta> yes, please
06:45:14 <alpha1beta> you know ryan will take advantage of it if you don't
06:46:00 <alpha1beta> lol...corward! you can't hide forever
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06:46:11 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
06:46:18 <ChrisMorgan> Not out for the count!
06:46:23 <ChrisMorgan> Back and alive!
06:46:32 <ChrisMorgan> *wham* whoops :P
06:46:38 <alpha1beta> ryan is still here...
06:47:08 <ChrisMorgan> :D
06:47:08 <rmccue> I have a solution that will shut you all up.
06:47:19 <ChrisMorgan> Yay!
06:47:26 <alpha1beta> yay! the tyrant is dead!
06:47:34 <alpha1beta> party at my place
06:47:59 <ChrisMorgan> I'll be a bit late
06:48:19 <alpha1beta> your only 9000 miles away
06:48:25 <ChrisMorgan> Do I get a travel allowance?
06:48:42 <alpha1beta> sure
06:48:45 <alpha1beta> why not
06:48:48 <ChrisMorgan> how much?
06:48:52 <dragonmage> yes we allow you to travel
06:48:58 <TaffinFoxcroft> can i come?
06:49:02 <alpha1beta> hmm, the cost of your netbook :P
06:49:09 <alpha1beta> sure why not, hitch a ride with chris
06:49:15 <ChrisMorgan> What about airfares? :o
06:49:42 <alpha1beta> $400 should cover it *withdraws from rmccue's back account*
06:49:51 <ChrisMorgan> Not at all!
06:49:59 <dragonmage> airfare? can't you just hire some aboriginies to build you a raft?
06:50:00 <ChrisMorgan> Lookin' at a couple of thousand at least
06:50:08 <ChrisMorgan> oh ok
06:50:24 <TaffinFoxcroft> we can kangaroos for the engine
06:50:28 <alpha1beta> lmao nice dragonmage
06:50:28 <ChrisMorgan> $3000 taxi fares to get to them, $4000 to get them to build it :P
06:50:33 <TaffinFoxcroft> and the dingoes to steal our babies
06:50:35 <dragonmage> how's the spelling on that?
06:50:43 <alpha1beta> I meant 4000* it was a typo
06:50:53 <ChrisMorgan> oh ok :-)
06:51:15 <ChrisMorgan> Put it into my Nigerian bank account.
06:51:29 <alpha1beta> lol
06:51:30 <ChrisMorgan> I've sent round enough messages, you should know the details ;-)
06:51:37 <alpha1beta> mine is swiss :P
06:51:50 <dragonmage> We can't it appears your account has been frozen due to suspicious activity
06:51:56 <TaffinFoxcroft> why not go for the hungarian option?
06:52:29 * ChrisMorgan smiles and pretends to look innocent while looking up at the ceiling...
06:52:34 <dragonmage> If you will give me your password I CAN CORRECT THE PROBLEM FOR YOU
06:52:42 <ChrisMorgan> Is that so?
06:52:48 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... sounds suspicious.
06:52:51 <ChrisMorgan> Wonder why.
06:53:02 <ChrisMorgan> We should really move this to #portableapps-ot , shouldn't we...
06:53:27 <dragonmage> not at all
06:53:37 <ChrisMorgan> Log readers now say, "oh no, we don't get to read the rest! :-(" ;-)
06:53:52 <ChrisMorgan> Justification of it staying here?
06:53:57 <ChrisMorgan> Relevance to PortableApps.com?
06:54:11 <ChrisMorgan> ummmm.... nup, can't justify it. :P
06:54:43 <dragonmage> we are discussing portable appdevelopers
06:54:59 <dragonmage> see making the developer portable...
06:55:03 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... nup, still can't justify it. :P
06:55:45 <TaffinFoxcroft> we are discussing a lan/coding party, therefore its relevant
06:55:59 <dragonmage> we just have to make sure you don't leave any settings in the australian registry
06:56:03 <ChrisMorgan> huh? I miss the connection...
06:56:46 <TaffinFoxcroft> party at alpha1beta's place right/
06:56:53 <alpha1beta> yessir
06:57:05 <dragonmage> doesn't matter as long as we got you off of the topic of being off topic...
06:57:15 <TaffinFoxcroft> while people are there some coding is going to be done, most likely related to PA.COm
06:57:52 <dragonmage> yeah, and I'll make a Sputnik skin for something portable
06:58:18 <alpha1beta> I'm working on another website atm, thanks excid3 btw, I'm using that theme as the basic
06:58:20 <alpha1beta> basis*
06:58:37 <ChrisMorgan> ... so I joined #portableapps-ot for nothing! :o
06:58:53 <TaffinFoxcroft> correct
06:59:18 <dragonmage> and we'll have the strippers all wear glasses make funny tech quotes while they dance
06:59:34 <ChrisMorgan> no.
06:59:37 <dragonmage> oh wait...
06:59:40 <ChrisMorgan> none of them
07:00:13 <dragonmage> keep forgetting we have youngsters here
07:00:17 <alpha1beta> cough cough homo cough cough
07:00:27 <TaffinFoxcroft> they can be stripers and they will paint the walls in black and white
07:00:30 <alpha1beta> but yes, you shouldn't talk about that n the room dragonmage
07:00:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> with paint
07:01:17 <dragonmage> good thing to paint with
07:01:27 <ChrisMorgan> Oy. Stop this. This is getting unruly...
07:01:45 <alpha1beta> then maybe our op should do something
07:02:00 <dragonmage> what do you expect its 02:00 here
07:02:04 * ChrisMorgan likes the look of the PortableApps.com Platform 1.5 Skin demo (refer back to http://portableapps.com/temp/PlatformThemePreview.png if you like)
07:02:16 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: don't tempt me.
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07:02:24 <alpha1beta> just did :P
07:02:29 <alpha1beta> ahh smart dragonmage
07:02:30 * TaffinFoxcroft steps back and avoids the banhammer
07:02:58 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: don't try it again...
07:03:08 <ChrisMorgan> TaffinFoxcroft: good idea :-) But I don't start with ban...
07:03:10 <ChrisMorgan> :P
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07:03:17 <pabot> dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man.
07:03:18 <alpha1beta> no, ban then kick
07:03:19 <TaffinFoxcroft> mario?
07:03:47 <dragonmage> why can't it just load the pic in another tab?
07:03:52 <ChrisMorgan> alpha1beta: first kick. Then if they do it again, then maybe kickban and a private talk...
07:04:15 <alpha1beta> ban/mute is fun tooo
07:05:08 <dragonmage> how bout ban/invite/ban/invite/ban/invite/ban/invite/ban
07:06:06 <TaffinFoxcroft> or flood/part/join/flood/part/join/flood/part/join/flood/part/join
07:06:59 <dragonmage> you do the hokey pokey and turn yourself about
07:07:26 <ChrisMorgan> How about...
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07:07:32 <alpha1beta> bye bye
07:07:33 <ChrisMorgan|away> Be good while I eat my tea.
07:07:41 <dragonmage> I should really get some sleep
07:07:58 <dragonmage> tea eater
07:08:11 <alpha1beta> go to bed dragonmage :P
07:09:21 <dragonmage> strange, I have an unclosable tab
07:11:15 <dragonmage> I think my FFP is broken
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07:11:38 <dragonmage> a lot
07:12:16 <dragonmage> maybe it's time to upgrade to 3 now
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07:12:55 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
07:13:12 <TaffinFoxcroft> 3 has a memory leak or 5.
07:13:23 <excid3> this is annoying me
07:13:31 <excid3> somehow xchat has no window decorations!!
07:13:37 <excid3> i cant move the window!
07:13:54 <dragonmage> I'm still using 2.0.0.14
07:14:03 <TaffinFoxcroft> LOL.
07:14:16 <TaffinFoxcroft> as in lol to excid3
07:14:26 <excid3> oh go lol yourself TaffinFoxcroft :P
07:14:33 <excid3> this is not a luaghing matter :P
07:14:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> ok.
07:14:39 <TaffinFoxcroft> TaffinFoxcroft: LOL.
07:14:43 <excid3> hahaha
07:14:50 <excid3> props for that one
07:15:01 <dragonmage> lmao
07:15:03 <excid3> i think its cuz my brain is scrambled from doing assembly coding that im in this mood
07:15:16 <dragonmage> look at what my status bar just did
07:15:43 <dragonmage> http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02252009022007.png
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07:17:51 <TaffinFoxcroft> dragonmage: XP SP3 with rainmeter + patched uxtheme?
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07:17:55 <dragonmage> not to mention this is like the third time I've started ff to find that all my buttons are gone and I have to manually put them back
07:18:32 <dragonmage> XP SP2 rainmeter + windowblinds
07:18:39 <TaffinFoxcroft> close
07:18:51 <dragonmage> yep
07:19:29 <dragonmage> actually on my gf's account, or the windows skin would match
07:20:14 <alpha1beta> ok, I'm out, later gents
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07:21:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> dragonmage: http://cubegames.net/taneth/uploads/desktop.jpg
07:22:41 <dragonmage> yes?
07:23:02 <TaffinFoxcroft> ^my current desktop
07:24:57 <dragonmage> uhoh
07:27:00 <TaffinFoxcroft> problem?
07:27:05 <dragonmage> having problems here
07:27:09 <dragonmage> brb
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07:28:58 <TaffinFoxcroft> brb
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07:42:15 <TaffinFoxcroft> back
07:42:26 <ChrisMorgan> velcumm
07:42:30 <ChrisMorgan> bak
07:42:41 <TaffinFoxcroft> qvack.
07:42:57 <ChrisMorgan> Take cover! Duck!
07:43:05 <ChrisMorgan> .def #portableapps-ot
07:43:05 <pabot> ChrisMorgan: #portableapps-ot is the PortableApps.com Off Topic channel
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07:43:19 <ChrisMorgan> (insert sheepish look... or duckish look :P)
07:43:41 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD|2, upnPAD|3: you seem to have a lot of trouble of this sort... you should use a decent client ;-)
07:44:23 <upnPAD|3> lol k
07:44:42 <ChrisMorgan> So, you're going to start using Mibbit?
07:44:44 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
07:48:43 <upnPAD|3> >_>
07:49:00 <ChrisMorgan> Well, what better client is there?
07:51:28 <TaffinFoxcroft> xchat.
07:51:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> PyIrChat
07:51:41 <ChrisMorgan> Not a hope on xchat
07:51:49 <ChrisMorgan> Haven't tried PyIrChat, can't comment in it
07:51:53 <ChrisMorgan> unlikely though
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08:05:07 <ChrisMorgan> Fare thee all well.
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08:05:38 <TaffinFoxcroft> bbl, local drama group
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08:17:35 <Jenz> Hello?
08:17:44 <Jenz> Anyone here who can help me?
08:17:59 <Jenz> Hello?
08:18:30 <Jenz> I just downloaded Portableapps, but everytime i open an open office app it says "____ Stopped Working" and then it closes on me
08:18:31 <upnPAD|3> with what?
08:18:40 <upnPAD|3> oh dunno
08:18:48 <Jenz> aww :(
08:18:57 <Jenz> can anyone help me?
08:19:04 <upnPAD|3> .pa open office "____ Stopped Working"
08:19:05 <pabot> upnPAD|3: No results found for 'open office "____ Stopped Working"'. Perhaps try .g open office "____ Stopped Working"?
08:19:08 <Jenz> there are so many people online, but noones talking
08:19:14 <upnPAD|3> .g open office "____ Stopped Working"
08:19:15 <pabot> upnPAD|3: No results found for 'open office "____ Stopped Working"'.
08:19:20 <upnPAD|3> er
08:19:26 <upnPAD|3> do you know what the ___ is?
08:19:26 <Jenz> oh god, dont tell me everyones a bot :(
08:19:37 <Jenz> umm,
08:19:52 <Jenz> im loading it again :P
08:20:09 <Jenz> OpenOffice.org 2.4 has Stopped Working
08:20:48 <upnPAD|3> .pa "OpenOffice.org 2.4 has Stopped Working"
08:20:54 <pabot> upnPAD|3: Version 2.4 does not start - http://portableapps.com/node/13079
08:21:00 <Jenz> Yay!!!
08:21:04 <Jenz> Thank you!!! :D
08:27:37 <Jenz> :(
08:27:43 <Jenz> it didnt help
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08:42:58 <Jenz> Woot!
08:43:03 <Jenz> ok, start over
08:43:13 <Jenz> i fiddled around a bit, and now it works!! ^_^
08:43:18 <Jenz> but i have another problem
08:43:39 <Jenz> all the apps work perfectly in my "portableapps" folder, but they dont show up on the menu
08:43:51 <Jenz> how can i move folders into my side menu?
08:43:56 <Jenz> .pa how can i move folders into my side menu?
08:44:00 <pabot> Jenz: Portable Apps menu help? - http://portableapps.com/node/3783
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08:47:20 <Jenz> ok, i refeshed and now it totally works
08:47:25 <Jenz> thank you so much everyone!!!! ^_^
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09:25:30 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
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11:18:25 <pabot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info
12:10:12 <purple> anyone have .NET framework 3.5 installed ?
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12:18:18 <pabot> ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now
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12:20:13 <Bensawsome> >_>
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12:20:32 <pabot> MaienM is MaienM, and thats all. He has no idea what to put here, so.... hi!! Love him or hate him, it's your choice.
12:20:32 <Bensawsome> MaienM! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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12:26:40 <Bensawsome> nao >_>
12:28:44 <MaienM> hello Bensawsome
12:28:52 <Bensawsome> lol
12:28:56 <Bensawsome> hey ^_^
12:29:24 <Bensawsome> my computer can actually take the high defintion runescape :D
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14:08:03 <onestoploser> Wow, it is completely dead in here
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14:10:13 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
14:11:57 <onestoploser> Hi Gizmokid2005
14:12:06 <Gizmokid2005> hello onestoploser, ZachThibeau, Bensawsome
14:12:29 <ZachThibeau> howdy Gizmokid2005
14:12:36 <onestoploser> Accidentally uninstalled Kvirc from my Portable drive today.
14:12:37 <onestoploser> lol
14:12:44 <Gizmokid2005> onestoploser: lol oops?
14:12:47 <onestoploser> Had to reinstall
14:13:12 <onestoploser> I was just trying to uninstall from the main drive, but it detedted my portable installation also.
14:13:16 <onestoploser> lol
14:13:22 <onestoploser> *detected
14:13:49 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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14:23:32 <onestoploser> Oooh
14:23:35 <onestoploser> Shiny
14:23:45 <onestoploser> Crystal black theme is nice
14:23:48 <Gizmokid2005> lol
14:23:58 <Gizmokid2005> I don't theme anything anymore...except T-bird
14:24:52 <onestoploser> I don't like the default kvirc theme. It's rough on the eyes.
14:25:03 * onestoploser slaps SergentSiler_
14:25:28 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, just a bit.
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14:37:36 <Gizmokid2005> I suppose I should update my KVIRC...
14:37:52 <Gizmokid2005> meh...
14:37:55 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.kvirc.net/?id=news&story=2008.12.14.20.09.1.story&dir=latest&lang=en
14:37:58 <Gizmokid2005> not enough reason to
14:40:42 <onestoploser> What version are you running now?
14:40:59 <Gizmokid2005> 3.4.2 "Shiny" - the October build, not the december build
14:41:10 <onestoploser> I see
14:41:24 <onestoploser> I don't really think you're missing anything.
14:41:39 <onestoploser> I only updated because of an accident.
14:41:40 <onestoploser> XD
14:41:44 <Gizmokid2005> haha
14:41:46 <Gizmokid2005> I don't think so either
14:41:55 <Gizmokid2005> that was their reason for the update
14:42:00 <Gizmokid2005> and I dont' use IE or IPv6 so...
14:42:07 <Gizmokid2005> I like the crystal theme
14:42:13 <onestoploser> Yeah
14:42:21 <onestoploser> I'm using Crystal Black
14:42:26 <onestoploser> I like darker themes.
14:42:32 <onestoploser> Easier on the eyes imo
14:42:33 <Gizmokid2005> I don't, they hurt my eyes after a while
14:42:38 <onestoploser> lol
14:42:44 * onestoploser is just the opposite
14:44:12 <Gizmokid2005> Pure isn't bad either
14:44:24 <Gizmokid2005> ghost fails...
14:44:29 <Gizmokid2005> the background is too dark...maybe?
14:44:42 <Gizmokid2005> meh yeah...
14:44:51 <Gizmokid2005> and it's too big...the text that is
14:45:44 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.gizmokid2005.com/images/kvirc_ghost.png
14:46:15 <onestoploser> Yeah
14:46:20 <onestoploser> Text is too big
14:46:32 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
14:46:36 <Gizmokid2005> pure isn't bad at all
14:46:38 <Gizmokid2005> I might stick with this one
14:46:49 <onestoploser> You should be able to adjust the font size...
14:46:59 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, but I don't like the theme that much
14:47:02 <onestoploser> lol
14:48:21 <Gizmokid2005> even the minimalist theme is bigger than the pure theme
14:48:24 <Gizmokid2005> but it's much easier on the eyes
14:48:35 <Gizmokid2005> and it has a static background! :
14:48:36 <Gizmokid2005> *:D
14:51:03 <onestoploser> http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2.jpg
14:51:06 <onestoploser> :D
14:53:31 <Gizmokid2005> that's not bad
14:53:49 <onestoploser> I rikes it
14:55:41 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.gizmokid2005.com/images/kvirc_minimalistic.png
14:55:44 * Gizmokid2005 likees that :)
14:55:59 <onestoploser> lol
14:56:00 <Gizmokid2005> *likes
14:56:07 <onestoploser> looks like mIrc
14:56:12 <onestoploser> Not bad though
14:56:59 <Gizmokid2005> I don't mind it, the font is nice and smooth now, and it's not too color farked
14:56:59 <Gizmokid2005> :)
14:57:12 <onestoploser> Right
14:58:18 <Gizmokid2005> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NotAlwaysRight/~3/1gJEkCb271c/1596 <-- haha!! That's awesome
15:01:46 <onestoploser> lol
15:06:45 <ZachThibeau> ftw XD
15:06:54 <Gizmokid2005> :)
15:07:49 <ZachThibeau> FTW http://notalwaysright.com/god-maamit/1598
15:07:59 <Gizmokid2005> seen it :)
15:08:16 <ZachThibeau> of course you have. your the all knowing Gizmokid2005
15:08:18 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:08:24 <Gizmokid2005> lol
15:08:24 <ZachThibeau> **you're
15:08:25 <Gizmokid2005> usually :D
15:13:03 <ZachThibeau> ROFL XD http://notalwaysright.com/customer-service-ii-the-reckoning/1583 I had to do this before
15:13:20 <ZachThibeau> sigh brings back memories XD
15:14:13 <Gizmokid2005> ahh yes...
15:14:51 <Gizmokid2005> http://i.gizmodo.com/5159735/tunnel-with-40000-leds-is-the-closest-youll-ever-get-to-light-speed <---- I WANT to see that.
15:15:04 <ZachThibeau> lol nice
15:18:25 <MaienM> this is like.... epic fail http://notalwaysright.com/ipod-meet-idiet/877
15:19:01 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: yeah, I lol'd when I saw it
15:19:07 <Gizmokid2005> anybody play any PC games by EA?
15:19:27 <MaienM> not anymore, but I used to, sometimes.... GTA :P
15:19:34 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: I do :D
15:19:36 <Gizmokid2005> I've got an LOL from them
15:19:49 <Gizmokid2005> I got NFS: Undercover from my GF for valentine's day
15:19:50 <ZachThibeau> just not ones we can play online though :(
15:19:52 <Gizmokid2005> the game wouldn't run
15:19:55 <ZachThibeau> ouch
15:20:02 <Gizmokid2005> it would load a cmd prompt, then windows crash
15:20:09 <Gizmokid2005> I'll post the email, hang on
15:21:54 <Gizmokid2005> aaaand, for your reading enjoyment: http://www.gizmokid2005.com/files/ea_support_nfsu.html (NOTE: Start at the BOTTOM)
15:22:14 * Gizmokid2005 <3's tbirds ability to save email as HTML :)
15:22:29 <Bensawsome> orly?
15:22:35 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: yes.
15:22:40 <Bensawsome> :P
15:22:44 <Bensawsome> how is everyone
15:23:01 <onestoploser> rly good
15:23:03 <Gizmokid2005> peachy keen...
15:23:04 <onestoploser> and you?
15:24:22 <MaienM> Gizmokid2005: thats just weird :/
15:24:23 <Bensawsome> im...
15:24:26 <Bensawsome> sucky....
15:24:31 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: yeah...tell me about it
15:24:39 <MaienM> why would a game not run with the process explorer open? :S
15:24:43 <Gizmokid2005> i couldn't believe it when I thought about it...
15:24:57 <Bensawsome> I have a huge like swollen spot right below my ear :/
15:25:04 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: the reasoning I got from Atari regarding TDU was it wasn't allowing their SecuRom security modules from loading correctly
15:25:15 <Gizmokid2005> BUT, I can run the game, start process explorer again and they are fine...
15:25:23 <Gizmokid2005> just when you launch the game pe can't be running.
15:25:27 <MaienM> weird....
15:25:28 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: why?
15:25:33 <Gizmokid2005> and ouch at the spot
15:25:36 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: I know
15:25:51 <onestoploser> D:
15:25:55 <onestoploser> Tumor?
15:31:38 <Bensawsome> no not tumor
15:31:39 <Bensawsome> lol
15:31:49 <Bensawsome> its like some kind of swollen gland
15:31:58 <Bensawsome> i should totally take a picture of it.............
15:32:01 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: infection maybe
15:32:15 <Bensawsome> ZachThibeau: ya it is :/ just got back from the doctor :/
15:32:17 <onestoploser> cyst?
15:32:22 <Bensawsome> ...
15:32:24 <Bensawsome> lol
15:32:33 <Bensawsome> no not a cyst :/
15:32:37 <ZachThibeau> I had an infection in my finger and prick my finger to let the puss out
15:32:37 <onestoploser> lmao
15:32:41 <Bensawsome> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
15:32:44 <Bensawsome> STFU ZachThibeau !
15:32:45 <Bensawsome> ;p;
15:32:46 <Bensawsome> lol
15:32:56 <Bensawsome> i am not pricky the side of my face
15:32:58 <Bensawsome> also
15:32:59 <onestoploser> Just do it. BE A MAN!!!!
15:33:05 <Bensawsome> the doctor said not to :/
15:33:05 <onestoploser> XD
15:33:06 <ZachThibeau> I think it was more a pimple though
15:33:12 <ZachThibeau> for me that is
15:33:12 <onestoploser> cyst
15:33:16 <Bensawsome> i could literally bleed to death :/
15:33:20 <onestoploser> D:
15:33:33 <Bensawsome> ya :/
15:33:35 <onestoploser> Just keep a hot utensil handy
15:33:39 <Bensawsome> XD
15:33:47 <Bensawsome> lol
15:33:55 <ZachThibeau> lol
15:34:05 <Bensawsome> no i asked him if he would prick it and he explained what could happen in great detail XD
15:34:05 <ZachThibeau> cauterize the damn thing :P
15:34:06 <onestoploser> cauterize ftw
15:34:16 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:34:19 <Bensawsome> ok
15:34:24 <Bensawsome> so lemme tell you the size of it
15:34:30 <ZachThibeau> tis a joke for me that is
15:34:37 <Bensawsome> lol
15:34:41 <ZachThibeau> if you doctor said not to I suggest listening to him
15:34:43 <Bensawsome> its prbly around... 3 inches across
15:35:01 <Bensawsome> so, he siad that WHOLE 3 inches would pop off
15:35:07 <Bensawsome> well not POP but...
15:35:08 <Bensawsome> lol
15:35:15 <Bensawsome> the skin would come off there :/
15:35:21 <Bensawsome> anywho brb bagel ^_^
15:36:35 <ZachThibeau> good thing it isn't a waffle XD
15:36:45 <Bensawsome> lol
15:37:02 <Bensawsome> ZOMG WAFFLES!
15:37:05 <Bensawsome> WHERE
15:37:07 <Bensawsome> lol
15:37:45 <ZachThibeau> ...
15:38:00 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: /kickban please
15:38:10 <ZachThibeau> on me that is :P
15:38:11 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: you know as well as I do, that's an abuse of powers :P
15:38:13 <Bensawsome> hey ur the one who mentioned it :P
15:38:13 <ZachThibeau> jk
15:38:14 <Bensawsome> lol
15:38:15 <Gizmokid2005> k, right on it :)
15:38:19 <Gizmokid2005> /kickban ZachThibeau
15:38:22 <Bensawsome> XD
15:39:26 * ZachThibeau gets back to work on coding musicplay3000
15:39:44 <Bensawsome> oh ZachThibeau!
15:39:48 <Gizmokid2005> ooh...fight going on in #pidgin
15:39:49 <Gizmokid2005> :)
15:39:51 <ZachThibeau> ...
15:39:56 <Bensawsome> make it... musicplayerOVER9000!!!!!
15:40:05 <Gizmokid2005> I'll pastebin it
15:40:19 <ZachThibeau> Bensawsome: nty
15:40:50 <Bensawsome> liol
15:41:11 <ZachThibeau> anyways musicplay3000 is a media player inspired by foobar2000 but for windows and linux (and probably macosx too)
15:41:45 <Bensawsome> :D
15:41:48 <Bensawsome> thanks ZachThibeau ^_^
15:42:20 <Gizmokid2005> link: http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/m21781d92
15:42:23 <Bensawsome> :D
15:46:00 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: see?? lol
15:46:07 <Gizmokid2005> nothing like a daily dose of irclol
15:46:26 <ZachThibeau> yeah
15:46:30 <ZachThibeau> :P
15:51:16 <onestoploser> Nice
15:51:26 <onestoploser> foobar2000 is win
15:51:44 <ZachThibeau> well soon it will be musicplay3000 is win :)
15:51:45 <MaienM> musicplay3000 > foobar2000 (when its finished) :P
15:52:06 <onestoploser> Nice
15:52:29 <ZachThibeau> yup :)
15:52:47 <ZachThibeau> join #musicplay3000 if you want to see what we do :P
15:53:35 <Gizmokid2005> ZachThibeau: no self-promoting :P
15:53:38 <purple> what musicplay3k?
15:53:42 <purple> *whats
15:54:19 <ZachThibeau> purple: a media player that is a work in progress for linux and windows and inspired by foobar2000 :)
15:54:28 <purple> oh
15:54:37 <purple> it seems there are no links for it on googl
15:55:46 <ZachThibeau> yes there is :) http://code.google.com/p/musicplay3000
15:55:53 <ZachThibeau> and it's still being coded
15:55:57 <ZachThibeau> started last night :P
15:56:10 <purple> haha
15:56:47 <onestoploser> Must have last.fm scrobbler.
15:56:51 <onestoploser> ;)
15:58:10 <ZachThibeau> right now we are just concerned with trying to get playback :P
15:59:23 <onestoploser> XD
16:00:12 <onestoploser> Must also support flac, shn, ape, mp3, mp2, m4a, wma, ogg
16:00:26 <Gizmokid2005> and acc :)
16:00:29 <onestoploser> After you get playback
16:00:30 <Gizmokid2005> lol
16:00:40 <onestoploser> Yeah. wav & acc too
16:00:57 <Gizmokid2005> erm...*aac
16:00:58 <Gizmokid2005> lol
16:01:03 <onestoploser> Yeah
16:01:06 <onestoploser> What he said
16:01:09 <onestoploser> lol
16:01:13 <Gizmokid2005> and air
16:01:14 <Gizmokid2005> *aif
16:01:37 <Gizmokid2005> and mpa
16:01:38 <Gizmokid2005> and mp1
16:01:41 <onestoploser> Yeah. If there's one audiompc
16:01:47 <onestoploser> *mpc
16:01:55 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.fileinfo.net/filetypes/audio <-- impress me, support all those :P lol
16:01:58 <onestoploser> Ignore that previous statement
16:02:09 * onestoploser high fives Gizmokid2005
16:03:00 * Gizmokid2005 hi-fives onestoploser
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16:03:02 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
16:03:06 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
16:03:07 <JohnTHaller> ho la
16:03:13 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
16:03:23 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
16:03:34 <Gizmokid2005> it goes I suppose
16:03:35 <Gizmokid2005> lol
16:04:01 *** SteveLamerton (n=Steven@23.95.125.91.rb4.adsl.brightview.com) has joined #portableapps
16:04:02 <pabot> SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;)
16:04:06 <onestoploser> Hey there JohnTHaller
16:04:08 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
16:04:10 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton
16:04:11 <onestoploser> Hi SteveLamerton
16:04:12 <JohnTHaller> hi hi
16:04:26 <SteveLamerton> Hi Gizmokid2005, onestoploser, JohnTHaller
16:07:13 <JohnTHaller> figure out the toucan batch issues, SteveLamerton?
16:07:19 <Bensawsome> AGH
16:07:36 <Bensawsome> darnit xchat froze :/
16:07:38 <SteveLamerton> The command line one?
16:07:42 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
16:07:44 <JohnTHaller> yea
16:07:55 <SteveLamerton> Hey ZachThibeau
16:08:15 * JohnTHaller is working on Miranda Portable 0.7.15
16:08:19 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
16:08:47 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Yeah, got that one, not sure why some XP users are having trouble in Backup though, I shall probably put the old code back for Windows users
16:08:58 <SteveLamerton> MaienM: Hello
16:09:49 <JohnTHaller> ok. let's do more of a test first to ensure all is well. i'm thinking future releases we should do a bit more testing on so we don't wind up with these issues again.
16:10:40 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: I wish more people would test to be honest, I got two replies to the beta test thread, but what can I do, can't bump forever, and they only seem to affect a small subset of users
16:11:05 <onestoploser> maybe a stupid question SteveLamerton, but is there a Toucan package for Linux or does it run with wine?
16:11:38 <JohnTHaller> yeah. trying to think of ways to get Toucan users more involved in testing. maybe we should ask them to subscribe to your blog in the release notes for each official release or something
16:11:44 *** o[^_^]o is now known as Jak151
16:11:53 <JohnTHaller> or setup a SF package for Toucan Tests and let them subscribe
16:11:53 <SteveLamerton> onestoploser: Apparently it runs with wine, I have a version for linux that compiles and sync runs, just needs a little more work on backup and secure
16:12:04 <onestoploser> Cool
16:12:14 <Jak151> Testing >
16:12:39 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: A package might be a good move, and perhaps a note in the next version that you can subscribe to it for pre-release information and updates
16:13:03 <JohnTHaller> SteveLamerton: you could also make sure you have a virgin XP install inside a virtualbox session so you can test each release's features on a base install
16:13:21 <JohnTHaller> i do that for big changes and big apps
16:13:34 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Yeah, it runs fine in a base install though :(
16:13:43 <JohnTHaller> hmm... odd.
16:14:05 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: Yes, that is what I just dont understand :(
16:15:10 <Jak151> May I ask what is that you are testing?
16:16:06 <JohnTHaller> we're talking about toucan
16:16:31 <Jak151> Toucan ?
16:16:53 <SteveLamerton> http://portableapps.com/toucan
16:21:07 <Jak151> Nice
16:21:58 <SteveLamerton> JohnTHaller: I think it must be a problem will a system DLL
16:27:28 <JohnTHaller> RELEASE: Miranda IM Portable 0.7.15: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-02-25_-_miranda_im_portable_0.7.15
16:28:55 <SteveLamerton> Nice one JohnTHaller
16:29:07 * onestoploser high fives JohnTHaller
16:29:39 <ZachThibeau> :)
16:29:52 * JohnTHaller goes back to working on PortableApps.com Platform 1.5. Current code: PAF icon renaming
16:30:04 <ZachThibeau> 1.5 :O wow
16:30:24 <onestoploser> :D
16:30:57 <SteveLamerton> Have to vanish now guys, should be back later
16:31:03 <JohnTHaller> later
16:31:04 <Gizmokid2005> see ya SteveLamerton
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16:55:41 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
16:57:36 <ZachThibeau> howdy OliverK
16:57:49 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK
16:57:58 <Gizmokid2005|AFK> meeting time...back in ~1hr.
16:58:09 <OliverK> howdy ZachThibeau
16:58:15 <OliverK> checking in before my club starts
16:58:17 <OliverK> :D
16:58:18 <ZachThibeau> :P
16:58:28 <ZachThibeau> I'm busy coding with MaienM :)
16:59:09 * JohnTHaller has updated the recent posts tracker to chop off subjects afert 60 characters for people who post absurdly long subjects
16:59:20 <Bensawsome> ^_^
16:59:32 <JohnTHaller> easier read now: http://portableapps.com/tracker
16:59:43 <onestoploser> JohnTHaller: lol
17:02:17 <onestoploser> JohnTHaller: In your freeware non-open source travels have you come across NFReader: http://www.gaijin.at/dlnfreader.php
17:02:49 <onestoploser> I've been using it for a long time now, and think it would make an excellent addition to PA
17:03:06 * Bensawsome clicks link and waits for ff to open
17:03:12 <onestoploser> There's no bloat, and it's portable already
17:03:44 <Jak151> Bensawsome, fails
17:03:47 <onestoploser> The site is in German.
17:03:56 <Jak151> because FF should be open allready
17:03:56 <onestoploser> Fails?
17:03:59 <onestoploser> lol
17:04:03 <Bensawsome> lol
17:05:02 <onestoploser> It's just a basic feed reader.
17:05:15 <Bensawsome> nice ^_^
17:09:25 <OliverK> time to switch computers
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17:16:15 <Mir> you mean like subjects like "get you free viagra nd cialis from canada or mexico now for only 4.99 but wait theres more it slices it dices it even compiles for you"
17:16:58 <Mir> note that is just an example of one i haver seen before
17:17:04 <Mir> i hate spamers
17:17:15 <MaienM> free ... for only 4.99
17:17:20 <MaienM> fail :P
17:17:27 <Mir> :p
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17:17:57 <sar3th|linux> hi @all
17:18:03 <MaienM> hello sar3th|linux
17:18:17 <sar3th|linux> heya MaienM, thanks again for the linux icons =)
17:18:26 <MaienM> yw :)
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17:25:19 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
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18:05:22 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: howdy Kenny
18:05:26 <ZachThibeau> howdy Gizmokid2005
18:05:31 <ZachThibeau> howdy JacobMastel
18:05:31 <Gizmokid2005> hello ZachThibeau
18:05:40 <Gizmokid2005> hello JacobMastel
18:05:55 <JacobMastel> Howdy ZachThibeau & Gizmokid2005
18:06:05 * JacobMastel is so tired of being sick :(
18:19:25 * Mir is sick too
18:19:45 <Mir> i just had my breakfast come oout the lower oriface X__X
18:19:50 <JacobMastel> all the work I'm missing is in class stuff too. :(
18:19:56 <Mir> yea
18:20:09 <JacobMastel> So It's a pain in the next to make up :'(
18:20:16 <JacobMastel> *neck..
18:20:20 <Mir> i know
18:20:40 <Mir> if i dont get to work at 11:30 i wont be able to pay my bills
18:20:48 <JacobMastel> Ouch
18:20:51 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller: mind taking alook at this http://portableapps.com/node/18245
18:20:57 <Mir> like the debt for the flight to Hawaii this summer ;>.>
18:20:58 <JacobMastel> That hurts. How long you been off?
18:21:17 <Mir> i havent been off yet
18:21:20 <Mir> i go in sick
18:21:37 <Mir> but if i cant make it to the restroom in time i shant bother to go
18:21:45 <JacobMastel> That's misserable.
18:21:49 <Mir> yea
18:22:20 * Mir goes to take a stick and pokes the floating cereal bit in the tolet bowl
18:22:28 <Mir> bits
18:22:30 <JacobMastel> eww
18:22:36 <JacobMastel> Just stop now :P
18:22:45 <Mir> ok
18:26:56 <JacobMastel> ZachThibeau: http://portableapps.com/node/18245#comment-112482
18:27:39 <ZachThibeau> JacobMastel: there was a reason why I asked John and noone else Jacob
18:28:32 <JacobMastel> Could have been an honest mistake it doesn't really look like a spammer.
18:29:16 <ZachThibeau> still you're response doesn't look nice tbh
18:29:27 <ZachThibeau> **your
18:29:47 <JacobMastel> :O
18:29:57 <JacobMastel> The user became annonymus?
18:30:05 <JacobMastel> Is that how you spell it?...
18:30:15 <ZachThibeau> annonymous
18:30:27 <JacobMastel> Thank you.
18:30:37 <JacobMastel> My posts never look nice :(
18:30:51 <ZachThibeau> no worries
18:30:55 <sar3th|linux> gotta go now, bbl
18:31:01 <JacobMastel> IOh well it's gone now :P
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18:31:04 <ZachThibeau> yup
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18:58:15 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :D
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19:05:27 <MaienM> hello TimClark
19:05:41 <TimClark> Greetings fellow P-Appsian, MaienM :D
19:06:14 <TimClark> How are you and your app today :)
19:06:54 <MaienM> good, just noticed I've been receiving quite a lot of downloads lately :D (up to 55 now :))
19:07:19 <TimClark> good for you, what was the topic url again ?
19:07:32 <MaienM> http://portableapps.com/node/18024
19:08:08 <TimClark> The Mana World (TMW), that's the online game right ?
19:08:20 <MaienM> yep
19:09:52 <MaienM> a new version has been released a few days ago, and I'm just about to update my app :)
19:10:09 <TimClark> cool
19:12:07 <TimClark> Security Alert: Adopey Flash is updating to v10.0.22.87
19:12:27 <TimClark> and the above was Not a Typo :P
19:14:06 <TimClark> http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb09-01.html
19:15:17 <TimClark> Since Flash is "Everywhere you don't want to be" update now, and we all remember how to update flash in FFP, right :O
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19:22:30 <pabot> SergentSiler is awsome and is the most.... Hey, wait, OMG!!!! PIE!!!! <3
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19:22:40 <SergentSiler> grrr
19:22:50 <SergentSiler> damn my desktop
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19:23:29 <SergentSiler> D:
19:23:31 <SergentSiler> its back
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19:23:50 <SergentSiler> brb
19:23:54 <TimClark> SergentSiler: SilerX , just part and join, the comments about it are really not needed
19:24:13 <SergentSiler> TimClark, its my laptop & desktop
19:24:18 <SergentSiler> just ignore SilerX
19:24:39 <TimClark> shush, just do what you need to w/o comment on each step
19:24:45 <SergentSiler> k
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19:46:18 <pabot> ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/
19:46:22 <SergentSiler> hi ptmb
19:46:33 <ptmb> Hi SergentSiler
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19:46:43 <ptmb> Hi everybody
19:46:47 <TimClark> hello ptmb :)
19:46:53 <ptmb> Hi TimClark
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20:07:58 <pabot> excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle
20:11:48 <ZachThibeau> ok guys I got to go, Time for work
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20:21:18 <pabot> Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually).
20:21:27 <SergentSiler> hey there Gizmokid2005
20:22:05 <Gizmokid2005> hello SergentSiler
20:22:08 <Gizmokid2005> I have returned! :D
20:22:23 <SergentSiler> :D
20:23:10 <Scriptdaemon> Aw. Zach isn't on so I can't complain that NSIS isn't updated yet. :(
20:23:23 <Gizmokid2005> LOL
20:23:34 <Gizmokid2005> sure you can, he just won't hear it
20:23:35 <Gizmokid2005> :P
20:23:59 <Scriptdaemon> He said it would be up yesterday. It is now a day later. SCRIPTDAEMON SMASH.
20:24:37 <Scriptdaemon> Brb, gotta go drop something off.
20:27:51 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:28:05 <Gizmokid2005> that's the beauty of OSS...release dates are subject to change without notice :)
20:28:16 <onestoploser> lol
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20:28:50 <onestoploser> My wife is in my Ubuntu, messing up my computer
20:28:57 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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20:35:07 <ktorvalds> I know I've asked this before, but maybe someone new is in that can help: is there a way to keep portable firefox from searching any directory on the host hard drive? i.e. I have plugins, profile etc. in the portable firefox directory on my flash drive, and don't want any trace on the local drive, or use of files on the local drive unless specifically directed to do so by me.
20:35:32 <Gizmokid2005> ktorvalds: did you ever post in the forums?
20:35:45 <ktorvalds> not yet
20:36:13 <Gizmokid2005> taht would be a good bet. afaik, there's no way to do this, at least not yet with the current releases
20:36:47 <onestoploser> The forums is always a good place to start. ;)
20:36:56 <onestoploser> *are
20:36:59 <ktorvalds> ok thanks. I'll try that
20:37:07 <MaienM> I doubt this is something the portable version could do, it most likely would have to be integrated into firefox itself....
20:37:26 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: or something that could be set in the launcher/ini
20:37:32 <Gizmokid2005> but thats why it's a good forum question
20:37:36 <Gizmokid2005> John could probably shed more light
20:38:05 <ktorvalds> ok cool. Going now to post there
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20:39:51 <pabot> TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :D
20:40:21 <Gizmokid2005> hello again TimClark
20:40:28 <TimClark> Hello fellow p-appsian :D
20:40:32 <ptmb> Hi TimClark, nice sentence from pabot :D
20:40:53 <ktorvalds> that pabot's pretty fancy... :D
20:41:01 <onestoploser> lol
20:41:10 * ptmb starts singing PortableAppsland anthom
20:41:37 <ktorvalds> HAHA lyrics! lyrics!
20:41:41 <TimClark> Have you updated to the current version of Flash aka Flash666{son of Satan edition} ?
20:42:21 <Scriptdaemon> My dog is dragging her butt on the carpet.
20:42:22 <Scriptdaemon> lol
20:42:24 <ptmb> yup :P (Ubuntu's updating system is usefull :D )
20:42:31 <onestoploser> D:
20:42:55 <ktorvalds> scriptdaemon: check her droppings for worms :D
20:43:02 <onestoploser> I hate when my dog drags it's butt on the carpet. It's completely disgusting.
20:43:06 <Scriptdaemon> We already know she has 'em.
20:43:14 <ktorvalds> uugh... fun
20:43:17 <onestoploser> What kind of dog is it?
20:43:25 <Scriptdaemon> English bulldog.
20:43:50 <onestoploser> Imagine a 120 lbs. black lab doing it. >:(
20:44:00 <onestoploser> Gross
20:44:09 <Scriptdaemon> lol
20:44:22 <Gizmokid2005> Or, you can imagine a 4lb chihuahua....lol
20:44:29 <Gizmokid2005> (girlfriend's dog, not mine)
20:44:34 <onestoploser> lol
20:44:38 <ktorvalds> last dog I saw do that WAS a chihuahua
20:44:39 <Scriptdaemon> Nice cover.
20:44:51 <Gizmokid2005> Scriptdaemon: it's true...
20:44:55 <Scriptdaemon> =P
20:45:01 <onestoploser> I want a small dog. Big dogs are stupid and always in the way.
20:45:14 <Gizmokid2005> this dog is dumber than a box of rocks...
20:45:15 <Scriptdaemon> Little dogs think feet are food.
20:45:20 <onestoploser> lol
20:45:38 <onestoploser> Stop using raw steaks as insoles.
20:45:47 <onestoploser> XD
20:47:14 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, maybe that's my problem.
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20:50:08 <PatrickPatience> Hey dudes.
20:50:10 <Scriptdaemon> Hey PatrickPatience
20:50:13 <Gizmokid2005> hello PatrickPatience
20:51:22 <PatrickPatience> Wassup?
20:52:35 <Gizmokid2005> everything above eye level PatrickPatience
20:53:14 <PatrickPatience> When was up defined at above eye level?
20:53:26 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, someone here could be a midget.
20:53:30 <Gizmokid2005> since common sense took over
20:53:33 <Gizmokid2005> doesn't matter
20:54:03 <Gizmokid2005> eye level is the same reference point for all people
20:54:10 <Gizmokid2005> it's dynamic
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20:54:29 <SrgSiler|sAFK> FTW
20:54:35 <Gizmokid2005> if it's below your eye level, you have to look down to see it, therefore it's not up
20:54:40 <Gizmokid2005> if you have to look ABOVE eye level, it's up
20:54:42 <Gizmokid2005> period :)
20:54:47 <ktorvalds> but how do you define "above eye level"?
20:54:51 <Gizmokid2005> (yes, I've had this discussion a few times)
20:55:10 <ktorvalds> if you attach gravitational down to the definition, that's cool
20:55:18 <PatrickPatience> What if you're blind?
20:55:20 <Gizmokid2005> again, we are making assumptiong
20:55:24 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: same thing still
20:55:26 <ktorvalds> but what if you're in the middle of nowhere, with no gravitational body to describe "down"?
20:55:30 <PatrickPatience> Linus' son is in here?
20:55:47 <ktorvalds> who me? no. no relation whatsoever
20:55:53 <Gizmokid2005> ktorvalds: that won't happen in normal conversation, so it doesn't matter
20:55:58 <ktorvalds> haha
20:56:06 <ktorvalds> thats my normal conversation
20:56:09 <ktorvalds> it gets all wierd like that
20:56:20 <Gizmokid2005> it's impossible to cover all possible situations in any normal conversation
20:56:23 <PatrickPatience> ktorvalds: Heh, well you're no fun.
20:56:51 <ktorvalds> XD
20:57:03 <Gizmokid2005> stumbleupon ftw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6A-JYbu1Os
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21:38:26 <JacobMastel> Yeah palogbot is gone...
21:38:28 <Gizmokid2005> there we go
21:38:32 <Gizmokid2005> palogbot: uri
21:38:32 <palogbot> http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-02-25#T21-38-32
21:38:35 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK: there you go ^^
21:38:40 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005: yeah, I'm trying to get the uris so I can bookmark them
21:38:42 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005: thanks
21:39:04 <Gizmokid2005> np
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21:39:55 <pabot> JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal"
21:40:02 <OliverK> its the JTH!
21:40:02 <Gizmokid2005> PatrickPatience: http://gizmodo.com/5041304/ihologram-3d-iphone-app-was-just-for-show-not-peek-into-alternate-world :(
21:40:05 <Gizmokid2005> hello again JohnTHaller
21:40:08 <JohnTHaller> wass goin down?
21:40:12 <JacobMastel> Hello JohnTHaller
21:40:14 <OliverK> the log bots :p
21:40:17 <JacobMastel> We just revived the logger :P
21:40:37 <JacobMastel> Now for the -rt one
21:40:38 <JacobMastel> ..
21:40:59 <Bensawsome> too bad PatrickPatience doesnt have screen :/ that would work.... awsomely
21:41:00 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, i don't have -rt saved yet
21:41:10 <Bensawsome> oh ya what is -rt's?\
21:41:10 <JacobMastel> Me neither.
21:41:16 <Bensawsome> and what is -dev's?
21:41:21 <JacobMastel> -dev doesn't have one
21:41:25 <JacobMastel> only here and -rt
21:41:28 <Bensawsome> ya it does :/
21:41:35 <Bensawsome> one sec it prbly went out -_-
21:41:37 <JacobMastel> I hate that this room doesn't have an abbreviation :P
21:41:50 <Bensawsome> oh maybe not.....
21:42:06 <Bensawsome> hey PatrickPatience! doesnt -dev have a logbot?
21:42:14 <KevinPorter> I could have sworn it did.
21:42:33 <ktorvalds> ah... here we go. It seems pluginsreg.dat is listing some plugins as being on the local hard drive... any way to change that? I've moved the ones I want to the "plugins" directory set in the ini (yes, I DID move it to the proper location so it IS used)
21:42:36 <MaienM> it does afair
21:42:36 <Bensawsome> i know it did
21:42:42 <Bensawsome> or atleast it used to KevinPorter :/
21:42:59 <KevinPorter> Bensawsome: The URL was down last time I tried to restart it, so I'm not sure what happened.
21:43:06 <JacobMastel> Guys support time :-\
21:43:24 <JacobMastel> Sorry ktorvalds what are you working on
21:43:49 <ktorvalds> lol trying to get firefox portable to stop looking in the local hard drive's plugins directory
21:44:05 <JohnTHaller> you can't. Firefox itself does it no matter what.
21:44:28 <Gizmokid2005> ktorvalds: that was the person to ask
21:44:46 <ktorvalds> yup... I figured as much, oh well
21:44:58 <JohnTHaller> what you can do is disable certain plugins within FFP and it won't load them from the local PC whenever it encounters them from then on
21:45:52 <ktorvalds> I've done that. I just don't like that it looks there - even if they are disabled. (OCD I guess lol)
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21:46:34 <JohnTHaller> they just show up in FF when disabled... it doesn't load them at all, so there's no security worries
21:47:11 <ktorvalds> right on. I guess I'm just overly paranoid :D thanks
21:47:41 <JohnTHaller> you could post a feature request to Mozilla's bugzilla about giving us the ability for Firefox to not look locally
21:48:04 <ktorvalds> on it right now! :D I REALLY want this feature
21:48:46 <JohnTHaller> it could be added as a command line switch. or an environment variable. or as a manual entry in about:config
21:49:21 <ktorvalds> one of those things that only people who actually care about it would know how to set :D that'd work
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21:50:26 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello Everyone!
21:50:34 <onestoploser> hi Oni-Neoxes
21:50:42 <Oni-Neoxes> i have a question
21:51:18 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: shoot
21:51:22 <Oni-Neoxes> What is the best linix you can run off a flash?
21:51:34 <Oni-Neoxes> possible PAM acceptible :P
21:52:11 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: that's a can of worms
21:52:14 <Oni-Neoxes> acceptible as in no cluttering my Manu with 21 exe files
21:52:20 <Oni-Neoxes> ?
21:52:53 <OliverK> oh, that? I though you were asking the best linux
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21:53:07 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
21:53:11 <OliverK> as far as running from a flash, as far as I know, it doesn't exist yet.
21:53:19 <OliverK> But I'm working on VirtualBox
21:53:28 <OliverK> that will have 1 exe file
21:53:46 <Oni-Neoxes> cool
21:53:53 <Oni-Neoxes> I heard QEMU is good too
21:54:04 <OliverK> HMNIS is horriable for tabs though, and I'm wondering if anybody else knows of a IDE that can handle NSIS. Multitasking is great
21:54:29 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
21:54:38 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: qemu is terrible. Apparently, the only way to get decent speed out of it is via installing a driver
21:54:48 <Oni-Neoxes> i see
21:55:14 <OliverK> so, I don't really like qemu. Of course, VBox can't even run without its drivers, so if they aren't there or you aren't a admin, you're SOL
21:55:26 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: what do you use to write your NSIS in?
21:56:54 <JohnTHaller> notepad++
21:57:13 <Oni-Neoxes> so there is none at this moment >_>?
21:57:30 <JohnTHaller> um. none what?
21:57:32 <OliverK> dang :(
21:57:37 <JohnTHaller> why dang?
21:57:45 <Oni-Neoxes> Any Linuxs PAM friendly?
21:57:48 <OliverK> i'm looking for a IDE. The flaws in HMNIS are driving me away
21:58:37 <JohnTHaller> considering that we have like one custom screen in FF and one in PA backup, i don't worry about IDEs
21:58:51 <JohnTHaller> IDE is only really useful if you're doing a GUI. for a launcher, you don't need one
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21:59:16 * OliverK likes the one button compiling
21:59:42 <JohnTHaller> You can setup notepad++ to compile it
21:59:55 <JohnTHaller> people do the oddest things because they like one tiny thing
21:59:59 <OliverK> really?
22:00:04 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: i know, right?
22:00:07 <OliverK> :p
22:00:09 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I know, its crazy
22:00:22 <JohnTHaller> seriously... suffering through a 4 year old IDE just because of that?
22:00:42 * OliverK didn't know
22:00:51 <JohnTHaller> here: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Notepad_Plus_Plus
22:00:55 <OliverK> i looked
22:01:09 <JohnTHaller> you can then do a custom key binding on it
22:01:22 <OliverK> yep :D
22:01:34 <OliverK> if I specify a hardpath, the portable will fix that, right?
22:02:07 <Oni-Neoxes> http://portableapps.com/node/8191 this VirtualBox?
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22:02:31 <OliverK> not gonna work. It double run the makensis.exe :(
22:02:47 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: yesh
22:02:56 <Oni-Neoxes> hmm.
22:03:27 <Oni-Neoxes> So whats the Linux everyone uses?
22:03:32 <OliverK> i'm using bits and pieces of code I find on the internet. It's hard becuase of the way the drivers are set up. BUt I think I've got them licked. I'm just takingthe time to clean up my code before I go further
22:03:40 <OliverK> ubuntu
22:03:43 <OliverK> but I use fedora
22:03:59 <Oni-Neoxes> I heard of ubuntu
22:04:02 <MaienM> ubuntu here too :)
22:04:41 <MGhany> Oni-Neoxes: I use Virtual Box Portable from here http://www.german-nlite.org/wbb/index.php?page=DownloadDBView&katID=3. It works perfectly!!! but it needs admin rights.
22:04:41 <MGhany> I use Ubuntu with it from their official site!
22:04:51 <SrgSiler|sAFK> Ubuntu, Mandriva, Puppy, Fedora
22:05:04 <Oni-Neoxes> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
22:05:06 <Oni-Neoxes> hmm
22:05:23 <OliverK> MGhany: I'm using pieces of their code. But mine is (dare I say) more thought out
22:05:56 <Oni-Neoxes> Ill try virtualbox
22:06:00 <Oni-Neoxes> thanks MGhany
22:06:11 <JohnTHaller> i have notepad++ setup to compile NSIS on CTRL-ALT-N
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22:07:47 <Oni-Neoxes> wow
22:07:52 <OliverK> found the problem
22:07:53 <Oni-Neoxes> ubuntu is free :P
22:07:58 * OliverK wants a button :(
22:08:04 * OliverK whines complains
22:08:05 <JohnTHaller> oh wah
22:08:09 <OliverK> JTH beats with stick
22:08:10 <JohnTHaller> keyboard shortcuts are faster
22:08:10 <SrgSiler|sAFK> lol
22:08:14 * Oni-Neoxes gives Olivers a cookie
22:08:20 <OliverK> NOM NOM NOM
22:08:24 <Oni-Neoxes> keyboard shortcuts ftw
22:08:24 <OliverK> --burp--
22:08:36 <SrgSiler|sAFK> JohnTHaller, but buttons are lazier ;)
22:09:03 <MGhany> np Oni-Neoxes.....my first advice in this node :)
22:09:14 <Oni-Neoxes> node?
22:09:26 <MGhany> room thingy...u know
22:09:31 <SrgSiler|sAFK> channel
22:09:46 <MGhany> now u know y i hate english
22:10:28 <Oni-Neoxes> im ganna download ubuntu also :D
22:10:33 <MaienM> Oni-Neoxes: :D
22:10:35 <Oni-Neoxes> for my school compy :3
22:10:40 <SrgSiler|sAFK> FTW
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22:12:28 <Oni-Neoxes> so give me the story of ubuntu
22:12:34 <Oni-Neoxes> isn't like linux?
22:12:48 <SrgSiler|sAFK> it is linux...
22:13:05 <Oni-Neoxes> but why the different name?
22:13:25 <SrgSiler|sAFK> there isnt any distro called "Linux"
22:13:30 <Oni-Neoxes> I see
22:13:39 <SrgSiler|sAFK> linux is really more like a base for development nowadays
22:13:40 <Oni-Neoxes> Linux is like an umbrella term XD
22:13:44 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
22:13:56 <Oni-Neoxes> and ubuntu is the most popular of offsprings?
22:14:04 <SrgSiler|sAFK> one of them, yes
22:14:10 <Oni-Neoxes> im download the iso AND request a cd XD
22:14:15 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
22:14:36 <SrgSiler|sAFK> i gotza get the new cd when it comes out :P
22:14:59 <Oni-Neoxes> gatta sign up to launchpad
22:15:10 <SrgSiler|sAFK> :P
22:17:13 *** SrgSiler|sAFK is now known as SergentSiler
22:17:28 * Oni-Neoxes bookmarks ubuntu's page
22:17:36 <TimClark> #> FTW GUI FTL :P
22:17:42 <SergentSiler> :P
22:18:18 <TimClark> In *nix real geeks don't do GUI :O
22:18:28 <SergentSiler> im a 50/50 guy
22:18:33 <OliverK> TimClark: that is true
22:18:39 <SergentSiler> i like a balance between GUI and commands
22:19:29 <MaienM> I use the terminal where it is apropriate, and gui where thats works and just is easier:P
22:19:57 <Oni-Neoxes> what the... they require a phone number >_>
22:20:03 <SergentSiler> :P
22:20:13 <Oni-Neoxes> i dont know what to do D:
22:20:17 <MaienM> they never called me Oni-Neoxes :P
22:20:18 <SergentSiler> use a fake one
22:20:23 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
22:20:24 <SergentSiler> or your real one ;)
22:20:28 <Oni-Neoxes> they never did?
22:20:53 <SergentSiler> i havent been called yet :P
22:20:54 <Oni-Neoxes> Never called you MaienM
22:20:58 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
22:21:04 <Oni-Neoxes> I feel safe now :D
22:21:38 <Oni-Neoxes> cool. request is in :3
22:21:42 <SergentSiler> :P
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22:22:29 <pabot> KevinPorter is an interesting fellow who you might see here and there, blogging about various things and Twittering a bunch.
22:22:39 <SergentSiler> hi KevinPorter :D
22:22:51 <KevinPorter> Hi SergentSiler. :)
22:22:53 <Oni-Neoxes> so Linux is like another OS?
22:22:55 <Oni-Neoxes> well
22:22:58 <MaienM> yeah
22:22:59 <Oni-Neoxes> ubuntu
22:23:04 <MaienM> yeah
22:23:12 <MaienM> imho, ubuntu > windows ;)
22:23:21 <SergentSiler> exept in gaming
22:23:25 <MaienM> true
22:23:26 <Oni-Neoxes> now Duel Booting?
22:23:44 <MaienM> actually I dumped windows altogether :P
22:23:48 <SergentSiler> same here
22:23:49 <Oni-Neoxes> I heard about that too
22:23:53 <SergentSiler> only on my lappie tho
22:24:05 <MaienM> altho I changed it to dualboot a few weeks ago because of a lan party I was going to
22:24:07 <SergentSiler> i use windows on my desktop for gaming
22:24:21 <KevinPorter> Oni-Neoxes: If you're not sure, then I'd recommend trying Ubuntu's Wubi installer feature.
22:24:26 * Oni-Neoxes is a Windows Junkie :P
22:24:26 <SergentSiler> ftw
22:24:30 <Oni-Neoxes> Wubi?
22:24:37 <KevinPorter> That lets you install it inside of Windows, but it's not like QEMU.
22:24:42 <SergentSiler> :P
22:24:43 <Oni-Neoxes> okay
22:24:47 <Oni-Neoxes> so I can use both
22:24:54 <KevinPorter> You get the full performance of a full install without having to mess anything up.
22:25:02 <Gizmokid2005> Oni-Neoxes: fake phone numbers: http://www.k7.net/
22:25:04 <Gizmokid2005> (well kinda
22:25:06 <SergentSiler> Oni-Neoxes, you can run it off of the cd too ;)
22:25:08 <KevinPorter> I definitely wouldn't use Wubi for day-to-day use though.
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22:25:12 <SergentSiler> Live CD ftw
22:25:18 <SergentSiler> its not as fast tho
22:25:24 <Oni-Neoxes> because over at NTCC My teacher has Vision6 on my compy
22:25:26 <Gizmokid2005> I actually need a place where I can SIGN UP to receive fax spam...
22:25:29 <SergentSiler> and its not perminant
22:25:34 <KevinPorter> SergentSiler: That really calls for an "orly." :P
22:25:41 <SergentSiler> :P
22:26:08 <Oni-Neoxes> why is it not good for day-to-day use KevinPorter
22:26:31 <KevinPorter> Because Wubi only let's you use like 8GB of hard drive space.
22:26:45 * TimClark confesses that he has never had a problem with Window XP and things it's a great OS [no comment on anyother version of windows : ]
22:27:02 <Oni-Neoxes> I see
22:27:31 * Gizmokid2005 agrees with TimClark
22:27:54 <KevinPorter> I honestly can't stand to use Windows XP anymore (not to start an OS war or anything).
22:29:16 <OliverK> i like winXP
22:29:29 * SergentSiler too
22:29:40 <OliverK> vista is alright
22:29:44 <ktorvalds> Gizmokid2005 try efax... they have a free incoming account option. But you can't send faxes out without it being a pay account. If you use it, you can have faxes sent to whatever email address you like
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22:29:54 <SergentSiler> OliverK, as long as SP1 is installed
22:30:03 <Gizmokid2005> ktorvalds: nah, k7 is a free incoming vm/fax number
22:30:05 <OliverK> fedora is being such a pain in the but, i don't want to deal with it right now
22:30:06 <Oni-Neoxes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
22:30:06 <Gizmokid2005> as long as it's used once in 30 days
22:30:10 <OliverK> SergentSiler: definately
22:30:16 <Gizmokid2005> and I've had 3 numbers expire from lack of use
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22:31:17 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: watch yourself. I trashed my hard drive and apparently some part of the mother board using a version of GParted
22:31:22 *** Mir has parted #portableapps (""LOL" i yelled to the cat. "Tho art truly divergent and laboriuous. My nose bleeds to your impending encounter with the froun)
22:31:36 <Oni-Neoxes> Wrong channel mir
22:31:43 <Oni-Neoxes> i see
22:32:00 <Gizmokid2005> Phone Number: 206-666-5643
22:32:03 <Oni-Neoxes> So what should I just do...
22:32:04 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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22:32:47 <pabot> Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some.
22:35:00 <Oni-Neoxes> Isn't dual booting just having 2 OS?
22:35:51 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: yes
22:36:20 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: my choice would be to use the fedora USB or the Ubunutu USB installer and then boot from that
22:36:29 <Oni-Neoxes> oj
22:36:32 <OliverK> inconvientant, but a hell of a lot safe
22:36:32 <Oni-Neoxes> ok
22:36:40 <OliverK> safer*
22:36:53 * OliverK doesn't have the best of feelings towards dual booting
22:37:47 * SergentSiler either
22:37:57 <SergentSiler> its annoying and complicated
22:38:04 <SergentSiler> in some cases anyway
22:38:05 <OliverK> i crapped up a computer
22:38:44 <KevinPorter> It's annoying, but with most distros not complicated.
22:38:54 * Oni-Neoxes really wants ubuntu but is afraid D:
22:39:08 <SergentSiler> KevinPorter, i mean the aftermath if you wanna switch distros and stuff
22:39:18 <SergentSiler> Oni-Neoxes, burn the disk and run the live cd
22:39:28 <OliverK> Oni-Neoxes: use the USB and you should be fine
22:39:32 <KevinPorter> Well, it's not that hard unless you have to reinstall Windows.
22:39:36 <SergentSiler> yeah
22:39:54 <KevinPorter> As long as you can do a little partitioning a la GParted.
22:40:03 <SergentSiler> :P
22:40:05 <Gizmokid2005> for all you geeks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHosLhPEN3k
22:40:10 * SergentSiler clicks
22:40:11 <OliverK> KevinPorter: it never works right for me
22:40:17 <ktorvalds> are there any random directories/files not really used by firefox that I could delete? i.e. are there instructions somewhere to strip it down even smaller
22:40:18 <OliverK> and I read the freakign manual
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22:40:48 <SergentSiler> Gizmokid2005, FTW
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22:41:01 <JohnTHaller> ktorvalds: No
22:41:02 <Gizmokid2005> :)
22:41:06 <Scriptdaemon> Are the forums slow for anyone else?
22:41:06 <Kayla> i have a question for a developer
22:41:20 <JohnTHaller> yes, drupal upgrade in progress
22:41:24 <Scriptdaemon> K.
22:41:32 <Gizmokid2005> Kayla: ask away
22:42:45 <Kayla> i use the portable apps to do a kind of it work on my many clients computers and the portable apps logo kinda make me look "un professional" ;) lol is there a way to remove it??
22:43:34 <OliverK> Kayla: from the menu? In short no.
22:43:45 <Kayla> yes from the menu
22:43:52 <Kayla> is it possable at all?
22:44:03 <Kayla> maybe change it to somthing else?
22:44:09 <Kayla> like my company logo
22:44:57 <OliverK> with the menu mod, you could change it.
22:45:06 <OliverK> if you're familier with compiling you could change it
22:45:10 <JohnTHaller> Kayla: Nope. The branding stays. There will be the ability to make small themes without the logo in 2.0. But not in 1.5. Though the theme will be changing next week
22:45:31 <JohnTHaller> starting next week it'll look like this: http://portableapps.com/temp/PlatformThemePreview.png
22:45:37 <JohnTHaller> with options for black, green, blue, etc
22:45:37 <Kayla> how do i get a menu mod?
22:45:58 <OliverK> http://ptc.kain-planet.de/details.php?file=283
22:46:11 <JohnTHaller> there are 3. mod34, smithtech and geek.menu. none are supported.
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22:46:34 <OliverK> this menu mod is "unsupported"
22:46:39 <Oni-Neoxes> wait... "starting next week"?
22:46:55 <Scriptdaemon> He said a few days ago 1.2 will be released.
22:47:00 <JohnTHaller> yes. the platform 1.5 test release is coming this week
22:47:01 <Oni-Neoxes> o:
22:47:07 <Oni-Neoxes> yay
22:47:11 <OliverK> Kayla: and there are some bugs, like open office icon rendering. But fo the most part its stable
22:47:25 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: there's also asuite, but that isn't really a "mod"
22:47:28 <TimClark> Kayla: which logo is the "unprofessional" looking one, the pam or the apps
22:47:46 <Scriptdaemon> I'm assuming the PAM logo.
22:48:03 <TimClark> Scriptdaemon: don't assume, let him answer
22:48:06 <Scriptdaemon> "the portable apps logo"
22:48:10 <Kayla> i dont like the portable apps logo on the app start menu
22:48:18 <Kayla> i will try the patch
22:48:36 <Kayla> id like to replace that logo with my companys logo
22:48:44 <TimClark> don't like and "unprofessional" two different things
22:49:18 <TimClark> You want your own, that can be "true", that is not to say the current one is "unprofessional"
22:49:41 <Kayla> i think it makes me unprofessional
22:50:09 <TimClark> too bad, promoting the folks who gave you your tools would be a good thing :-(
22:50:13 <Scriptdaemon> How so? Do you use any other programs and try to find ways to put your logo in place of theirs?
22:50:20 <Kayla> no
22:50:32 <Kayla> but i use this everywhere i do my work
22:50:50 <Oni-Neoxes> What is your company?
22:51:09 <TimClark> But what is wrong with giving credit where credit is due, "I use and support portable apps!!"
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22:51:18 <Kayla> do u see other ppl puting up signs in there companys with ads about the place that made the sign?
22:51:30 <Scriptdaemon> False analogy.
22:51:35 <TimClark> it's usually on the sign :P
22:51:49 <Kayla> ** sighs **
22:52:04 <MaienM> most people give credit where people deserve it ;)
22:52:14 <OliverK> guys, let it go.
22:52:20 <Gizmokid2005> a good analogy, would be a cash register...the name brand is plastered on it in plain view...
22:52:30 <Gizmokid2005> Kayla: you don't HAVE to use the menu...
22:52:33 <Kayla> seriously, id almost pay to remove the ad
22:52:34 <OliverK> ours is not to reason why, but to shutup and blow the taco stand before you die.
22:52:40 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005: correct
22:53:04 <Oni-Neoxes> im just interested in what your company does
22:53:09 <Oni-Neoxes> or what is your company
22:53:21 <JohnTHaller> Kayla: it's not an ad, it's a logo. we put our name on our piece of software. just like every other piece of software other there. and others who do something similar to us do the same thing (see U3, see Ceedo, etc).
22:53:54 <TimClark> TimClark: ok, guys, i started this, lets not jump on him :-P
22:54:21 <Kayla> i use it so much on so many others computers infront of so many other people i think its fair to want to remove others logos from this like this, i personally think it makes me and my company look cheap
22:54:57 <TimClark> TimClark: Ok, guys, continue, jump on him :(
22:55:02 <Oni-Neoxes> lol
22:55:08 <SergentSiler> XD
22:55:11 <Scriptdaemon> Last input on my part, but putting your own logo on software you didn't write is like saying you wrote it, which you didn't.
22:55:22 <JohnTHaller> Kayla: do you feel the same way about openoffice.org's splash screen? or welcome screen with their logo? it's the same thing.
22:55:49 <Kayla> and i would be willing to like keep the logo, but maybe put it under my companys logo, like.... -- my company name -- -- by portable apps
22:55:55 <KevinPorter> It's open source, so as long as you don't redistribute it with your logo with our trademark, there's really nothing wrong with it, right?
22:56:26 <Kayla> i wouldn't redistribute it, but use it only personally
22:56:31 <MaienM> I personally think that it is not nice to try to hide stuff like logo's, and make it seem like noone else did something for it..... give credit where people deserve it.
22:56:36 <Scriptdaemon> I can see the removal of the logo completely, but I think it's unfair to put your own logo in its place.
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22:57:51 <Scriptdaemon> I'm going back to try remembering what I was about to do before I came back in here.
22:57:59 <JacobMastel> lol
22:58:03 <Kayla> ok, what about making my logo the main one while still keeping the portable apps logo smaller but just underneath
22:58:06 <JacobMastel> Good luck? ;)
22:58:25 <Scriptdaemon> Updating Drupal on my site, got it!
22:58:41 *** KevinPorter is now known as KevinPorter|away
22:58:46 <Kayla> i have drupal
22:58:50 <Oni-Neoxes> What does your company do Kayla?
22:59:12 <Kayla> why does it matter?
22:59:23 <Scriptdaemon> It's good to be curious.
22:59:29 <Kayla> u dont need to go into my personal life :/
22:59:41 <Oni-Neoxes> im just intersted. but what I got together you fix computers possibly...
22:59:45 <Bensawsome> Kayla, drupal is open source too..... did you remove their log and stuff :/
22:59:51 <SergentSiler> if you have a website and a company its hardly personal ;)
22:59:59 <Scriptdaemon> I'd call that your professional life, but eh.
23:00:02 <Kayla> :D
23:00:07 <Kayla> lol
23:00:09 <Kayla> yes
23:00:12 <Kayla> i agree
23:00:13 <Oni-Neoxes> oh gawd Ben is here...
23:00:13 <Kayla> but
23:00:17 <TimClark> Scriptdaemon: let it go, sharing is not required
23:00:35 <Scriptdaemon> I wasn't the one who asked, I was just correcting her.
23:00:45 <TimClark> her ?
23:00:46 <OliverK> Kayla: I honestly don't consider it that personal. If you don't want to say, then, just say you're unconfortable sharing that. But many of of know what each others due for a real lifes
23:00:51 <OliverK> lives*
23:00:52 <Kayla> none of you need to know what my business
23:00:57 <Kayla> is
23:00:58 <OliverK> Kayla: that is fine
23:00:58 <Bensawsome> there are entire companies that use all open source software which dont remove the logos :/ its not being cheap. its conserving your resourcews... all companies like to conserve their money
23:01:00 <Scriptdaemon> Kayla seems like a female's me to me.
23:01:04 <Scriptdaemon> name*
23:01:15 <SergentSiler> Scriptdaemon, take it to pm
23:01:17 <OliverK> Scriptdaemon: let it go
23:01:29 <Kayla> be cause i am
23:01:34 <Kayla> because**
23:01:38 <MaienM> guys, if Kayla doesn't want to say it, let it be. Its her choise.
23:01:43 <Scriptdaemon> Completely unmerited, you two. lol
23:01:45 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-67-189-254-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
23:01:45 <pabot> gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!!
23:02:05 <TimClark> ATT ALL: FOLKS DO NOT NEED TO GIVE OUT PERSONAL INFORMATION: this includes, real, names, businesses, websites, etc. They can not do this in good consicience
23:02:15 * SergentSiler agrees
23:02:27 <Kayla> so are any of you guuuuys gunna tell me how to change the logo?
23:02:28 <Oni-Neoxes> I guess so. I can't disagree
23:02:38 <Scriptdaemon> We already did.
23:02:39 <Gizmokid2005> I agree with TimClark, if you keep pressing the issue, I will mute you. You have been warned
23:02:40 <OliverK> Kayla: I have informed you of the only way to do so
23:02:47 <Kayla> the mod?
23:02:49 <Kayla> k
23:02:51 <Scriptdaemon> Yes.
23:02:56 <TimClark> Kayla: you need to recomplie the menu from the source
23:03:09 *** sancas (n=Sancas@190.87.246.199) has joined #portableapps
23:03:12 <Kayla> where is the logo stored?
23:03:15 <MaienM> either recompiling, or using a mod.
23:03:22 <Kayla> locally on the flash drive
23:03:25 <Kayla> but where?
23:03:38 <OliverK> and I guess that kayla lives in alberta canada!
23:03:48 <Kayla> wtf
23:03:55 <TimClark> OliverK: that was just wrong :O
23:03:57 <Kayla> how the fuck you know that
23:03:59 <SergentSiler> Kayla, its integrated into the menu, you cant simply delete it
23:04:04 <Scriptdaemon> HAHAHAHA
23:04:05 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
23:04:09 <Gizmokid2005> OliverK: that is ENOGH
23:04:11 <Gizmokid2005> *ENOUGH
23:04:12 <TimClark> everyone stop
23:04:13 <Gizmokid2005> Kayla: based on your IP
23:04:19 <Kayla> fuck you oliver
23:04:25 <Scriptdaemon> Uncalled for.
23:04:27 <Gizmokid2005> Kayla: THAT IS ENOUGH.
23:04:30 <JacobMastel> Kayla: he got it off your IP it's way easy
23:04:30 <OliverK> Kayla: keep the language down
23:04:30 <SergentSiler> keep it G rated please
23:04:42 <JohnTHaller> Alright, everyone stop right now.
23:04:46 <TimClark> Kayla: it is obvious knowelge, but it did not need to be thrwon in your face :-(
23:05:01 <TimClark> OliverK: deop, now please
23:05:09 <OliverK> TimClark: of course
23:05:41 <JohnTHaller> Kayla, the official menu doesn't let you remove the logo. You can use a mod (a modified menu), but it is unsupported (meaning no one will really assist with it). Or you can recompile it yourself. On a public IRC server, everyone can see where you're from. I'm in NY for instance.
23:05:59 <Oni-Neoxes> PA here
23:06:04 <JacobMastel> Kayla: try a /whois {username}
23:06:06 <MaienM> NL
23:06:08 <JacobMastel> It will show your IP
23:06:16 <JacobMastel> Then you can do a search on that IP and it will say where your from
23:06:16 <TimClark> JacobMastel: not now !
23:06:22 <TimClark> JacobMastel: not now !
23:06:51 <Kayla> i know its not hard to trace my ip, im not a idiot...... but i thought it was uncalled for that sombody went out of their way to find out where i live!!!!!!!!
23:07:11 <TimClark> yes, Kayla , i agree with you
23:07:18 <Kayla> i mean seriously
23:07:19 <OliverK> [OliverK] (n=OliverK@dhcp-224-231.svcc.edu): Oliver Krystal
23:07:19 <OliverK> * [OliverK] @#portableapps-bets +#portableapps-rt #SilerSpot #vbox-dev @#portableapps-dev #portableapps-meta #portableapps-ot #vbox +#portableapps.com +#portableapps
23:07:19 <OliverK> * [OliverK] niven.freenode.net :Corvallis, OR, US
23:07:19 <OliverK> * [OliverK] is identified to services
23:07:20 <OliverK> * [OliverK] is signed on as account OliverK
23:07:22 <OliverK> * [OliverK] idle 00:00:10, signon: Wed Feb 25 15:08:11
23:07:24 <OliverK> * [OliverK] End of WHOIS list.
23:07:26 <JacobMastel> OliverK: stop
23:07:27 <OliverK> shit
23:07:30 <TimClark> but please try to stay calm
23:07:34 *** OliverK has parted #portableapps ("So long, and thanks for all the fish")
23:07:35 * Oni-Neoxes facepalms
23:07:47 <Scriptdaemon> I love IRC.
23:08:07 <TimClark> ATT: Op Command, we need calm right now!
23:08:12 <SergentSiler> if we could stay on topic, that would be nice
23:08:32 <JohnTHaller> And finishing the topic: Kayla, the official menu doesn't let you remove the logo. You can use a mod (a modified menu), but it is unsupported (meaning no one will really assist with it). Or you can recompile it yourself.
23:09:02 <Kayla> how is it possible to recompile it?
23:09:18 *** sancas has quit ("Saliendo")
23:09:30 <JohnTHaller> It's also possible you could use something like Resource Hacker on the official menu... but I don't know if that'll work or not.. you'd have to unUPX it first. To compile it, you need Borland Delphi 2006
23:09:50 <JacobMastel> Get the source from sourceforge and compile it using Borland Delphi
23:10:02 <Kayla> i have no idea how to do it tho... so forget it
23:10:31 <Scriptdaemon> You going for a mod then?
23:10:32 <JohnTHaller> You could try resource hacker if you want. Just unupx it (you can use our appcompactor).
23:10:45 <Kayla> ill just mod it
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23:13:49 <TimClark> /BBS
23:13:56 *** powerjuce (n=powerjuc@unaffiliated/powerjuce) has joined #portableapps
23:13:57 <pabot> powerjuce knows all
23:14:03 <TimClark> Gizmokid2005: keep things calm :-(
23:14:16 <Scriptdaemon> It's done.
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23:17:53 <powerjuce> hey guys whats up
23:18:02 <Kayla> ive modded it and am happy with the results ty to whoever gate me the link
23:18:16 <JacobMastel> powerjuce: hey you missed the fireworks ;)
23:18:28 <powerjuce> logs it is
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23:19:31 <Oni-Neoxes> She is annoying
23:19:40 <Bensawsome> she is an idiot
23:19:42 <JacobMastel> Oni-Neoxes: logs....
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23:19:43 <pabot> OliverK is liking his days off
23:19:46 <JacobMastel> logs....
23:19:59 <Oni-Neoxes> XD
23:20:05 <Scriptdaemon> Indeed, but she's not likely to browse them.
23:20:07 <JacobMastel> Wow this must be a new record! 31 people??
23:20:13 * Oni-Neoxes draws a picture of a log and gives it to JacobMastel
23:20:15 <Oni-Neoxes> here you go!
23:20:15 <Bensawsome> i could care less if she sees em :/
23:20:18 <OliverK> i should probably apologize. My actions were not that appropriate.
23:20:22 <OliverK> sorry everyone
23:20:25 <JacobMastel> Thanks Oni-Neoxes! :D :P
23:20:28 <Bensawsome> lol its ok
23:20:34 <Scriptdaemon> I think she overracted to be honest.
23:20:37 <OliverK> JacobMastel: should have told her about that as well.
23:20:46 <JacobMastel> OliverK: it's okay we're all allowed to make stupid mistakes every now and then :P
23:20:48 <OliverK> i did
23:20:58 * OliverK seems to be frequently making stupid mistakes
23:21:14 <Bensawsome> OliverK: she deserved it ^_^
23:21:14 <JacobMastel> PatrickPatience: is this a new record for the room?
23:21:15 <Bensawsome> lol
23:21:23 <SergentSiler> :P
23:21:24 <Scriptdaemon> I don't think she understood how accessible that information was, and had she, she wouldn't have cared.
23:21:33 <MaienM> nah, I can remember a case where there were 33
23:21:33 <OliverK> yes. but still
23:21:41 <Bensawsome> hmmm
23:21:42 * OliverK orders clones to join
23:21:46 <OliverK> muahahahaha
23:21:48 <SergentSiler> :O
23:21:48 <JacobMastel> :(
23:21:52 <Bensawsome> maybe i could get a script for StatBot_ that can keep that :D
23:21:55 <JohnTHaller> For future reference, always assume the best of an end user. Try to educate. Always stay calm. If you can't stay calm, stay quiet.
23:21:55 * SergentSiler slaps OliverK
23:21:55 <JacobMastel> I could probably get Mike in here :P
23:22:01 <Bensawsome> LOL JacobMastel :P
23:22:07 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: well said. Thank you!
23:22:11 <Gizmokid2005> I agree completely
23:22:15 <SergentSiler> same here
23:22:20 <Bensawsome> true dat
23:23:04 <MaienM> I have to say that, imho, this was the worst support session in here ever (afaik)
23:23:18 <OliverK> i still don't know what she does :(
23:23:21 <JacobMastel> MaienM: definately
23:23:25 <MaienM> that being said, it ended well (kinda) so lets just forget about it......
23:23:33 <OliverK> yes
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23:23:40 <JacobMastel> OliverK: google her name & IP you can probaly find her company
23:23:45 <OliverK> did :D
23:23:59 <Bensawsome> nothing for her ip :/
23:24:16 <Scriptdaemon> We initially answered it, but then tried to put her in the perspective of the program's developers. Could've gone better, though.
23:24:16 <JohnTHaller> guys STOP
23:24:36 <OliverK> we shouldn't have even bothered with changing her mind. It was set
23:24:43 <JohnTHaller> do not track down more info, do not post it, do not attempt to contact that user or anyone related with her
23:25:05 <OliverK> JohnTHaller: heck no!
23:25:25 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: I would never contact them...
23:25:34 <powerjuce> lol not good
23:25:35 <powerjuce> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/25/1524226
23:25:36 <OliverK> .tell PatrickPatience to please strike fromt he log's kayla's personal information. And my fail, if you would please
23:25:37 <pabot> OliverK: I'll pass that on when I next see PatrickPatience.
23:25:37 <JohnTHaller> do not even discuss it.
23:25:38 <JacobMastel> Thats just kreepy
23:26:13 <JacobMastel> I wish songbird supported zunes :-\
23:26:20 <Scriptdaemon> I wish Mozilla would open up Weave to new testers. :(
23:26:26 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: it does
23:26:31 <Oni-Neoxes> Weave?
23:26:32 <JacobMastel> :O
23:26:35 <JacobMastel> It does???
23:26:38 <Gizmokid2005> it started autodetecting mine, until I disabled the MTP support plugin
23:26:49 <JacobMastel> Did you try actually using it?
23:26:52 <Scriptdaemon> It's their own way of syncing bookmarks, passwords, etc.
23:27:01 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, it wanted to sync...but I wouldnt let it
23:27:13 <Gizmokid2005> then again, I have an original 30GB model
23:27:14 <JacobMastel> That's cool
23:27:16 * JacobMastel is downloading
23:27:21 <JacobMastel> I have the new 120gb
23:27:35 <Oni-Neoxes> what is Weave?
23:27:41 <JacobMastel> .g Mozilla Weave
23:27:43 <Scriptdaemon> I said it ^
23:27:44 <pabot> JacobMastel: http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/introducing-weave/
23:27:52 <Oni-Neoxes> thanks
23:28:02 <Scriptdaemon> That'll work though. That page hasn't been updated though.
23:28:25 <daBomb69> They STILL haven't opened Weave, it's been closed for like 6 monthes
23:28:34 <Scriptdaemon> https://services.mozilla.com/
23:28:38 <Scriptdaemon> That's better ^
23:28:40 <JacobMastel> I'm not sure I'm really into the whole cloud computing fad :-\
23:28:41 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, I know.
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23:29:05 <JacobMastel> I prefer a hard local copy of my data/programs thank you very much
23:29:08 <Scriptdaemon> I don't know if I'd call it a fad. I find it very useful, having a desktop, laptop, and USB drive.
23:29:35 *** StatBot_ has quit ("leaving")
23:29:39 <Scriptdaemon> Well, in that case yeah, but a way to save settings over multiple computers is useful.
23:29:43 <Oni-Neoxes> I dont get Weave... I dont like WOT
23:30:12 <JacobMastel> Oh I'm not saying syncing via the web isn't cool but like mail and the actual programs I kinda like locals myself.
23:30:16 <JacobMastel> Much better Keyboard support
23:30:24 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, agreed with that.
23:30:36 <Scriptdaemon> Which is why Google Doc is only secondary for me.
23:30:40 <Scriptdaemon> Docs*
23:30:44 <JacobMastel> Same here
23:30:54 <JacobMastel> I much prefer MS '07
23:30:59 * OliverK doesn't trust his digital info to the cloud
23:31:06 <OliverK> JacobMastel: ahh!!
23:31:07 <JacobMastel> I don't want to hear any crap for that
23:31:11 <OliverK> heh, okay
23:31:16 <JacobMastel> :P
23:31:16 <Scriptdaemon> Too late, lol.
23:31:21 <OliverK> heh, its alot better then 2003
23:31:54 <JacobMastel> IF OO would get the ribbon & more support for .docx which currently sucks I would probably switch back.
23:32:03 <Gizmokid2005> I only like 03
23:32:13 <Scriptdaemon> I wish office solutions weren't all so slow.
23:32:15 <Gizmokid2005> 07+ has a crappy interface, and it's bloated
23:32:19 <OliverK> yeah
23:32:28 <OliverK> they went and put them ribbons into Autocad :(
23:32:31 <OliverK> its awful
23:32:45 <daBomb69> OliverK: Yes, it is:-(
23:32:49 * OliverK is going back to openoffice 2, the font support is awful
23:32:50 <Scriptdaemon> I wish there was more competition for Autocad.
23:32:52 <JacobMastel> Moving on...
23:33:02 <OliverK> what hoe? another autocad user?
23:33:13 <OliverK> Scriptdaemon: yeah
23:33:27 <OliverK> i wish there was open-source stuff
23:33:59 <daBomb69> Does anyone know of an OSS CAD software?
23:34:00 <Scriptdaemon> I haven't in quite awhile. When I was in high school we started off with Generic CADD, and then moved to Autocad when we were actually good with it.
23:34:05 * Oni-Neoxes goes back to google for interesting standalone programs to put on his flashy
23:34:29 <Scriptdaemon> I never actually did anything that was assigned and still got an A. lol
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23:34:30 <pabot> LOGAN is a person that's crazy over fun portable stuff.
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23:35:13 <Scriptdaemon> Some friends of mine and I would draw pictures in succession and then press the undo and redo buttons to animate it (For Generic CADD).
23:35:16 <LOGAN> Hello, does anyone know is DVDStyler v2.7.1 has been released? The official version was released: 11 November 2008
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23:35:24 <LOGAN> maybe I missed it :/
23:35:35 <Oni-Neoxes> XFire froze on meh
23:35:40 <JacobMastel> haha :P
23:35:48 <JacobMastel> That's what you get for dissing MS :P
23:35:53 <Scriptdaemon> On Windows, when I click the tray icon at all XFire crashes.
23:36:00 <Scriptdaemon> XChat*
23:36:04 <LOGAN> ayay xfire... I just use Pidgin for ages now
23:36:06 <Oni-Neoxes> same here
23:36:15 <Bensawsome> JacobMastel: ms sucks :P
23:36:15 * OliverK has deleted that evl plugin
23:36:15 <Oni-Neoxes> Tray icon fails
23:36:23 <OliverK> yeah, never told me what I wanted
23:36:28 <JacobMastel> LOGAN: I use Pidgin but it's becoming annoying because it crashes on exit :-\
23:36:32 <Bensawsome> yep :/
23:36:35 <Scriptdaemon> I wish they released the source for the updated Windows versions.
23:36:40 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: what version?
23:36:48 <Bensawsome> thats why i installed xtray and disabld the default tray icon ^_^
23:36:52 <JacobMastel> 2.5.4
23:37:02 * Oni-Neoxes opens XFire and MSN. Also opens Steam
23:37:06 <Scriptdaemon> They fixed that bug.
23:37:08 <Scriptdaemon> Odd.
23:37:09 <JacobMastel> The latest release fixed it for a while but it started again.
23:37:10 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: yeah, it crashes on exit sometimes on me...it was a bug that started in 2.5.3
23:37:15 <Gizmokid2005> Scriptdaemon: nope
23:37:18 <Gizmokid2005> not completely
23:37:19 * OliverK uses miranda
23:37:25 <Scriptdaemon> I haven't gotten it since
23:37:26 <JacobMastel> It's the worst when I'm invisible
23:37:27 <SergentSiler> XChat FTW
23:37:30 <OliverK> and would use the XFire plugin for miranda
23:37:32 * daBomb69 uses Pidgen AND Miranda
23:37:33 <OliverK> xchat FTL
23:37:39 <SergentSiler> >_>
23:37:42 <JacobMastel> I don't like Miranda it's too needy
23:37:44 * SergentSiler eats OliverK
23:37:45 <LOGAN> sorry to hear JacobMastel, i dont have that... (hmm maybe im not using the latest :)
23:37:45 <Bensawsome> XCHAT FTW :P
23:37:45 <OliverK> daBomb69: now that's a way to solve the problem
23:37:50 <Scriptdaemon> XChat would be better if they didn't turn it into shareware
23:37:58 <LOGAN> miranda to needy LOL
23:37:59 <daBomb69> exactly:-D
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23:38:17 <Bensawsome> The dev of dvdstyler is zach >_>
23:38:20 <powerjuce> but miranda can do what xchat cannot
23:38:20 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: I think it's a plugin though
23:38:25 <Bensawsome> zachthibeau that is >_>
23:38:26 <Gizmokid2005> I have logging turned on by default so I can look for sure
23:38:32 <JacobMastel> Gizmokid2005: very possible
23:38:32 <powerjuce> it can go into multple clients which xchat cannot
23:38:47 <SergentSiler> uhhh, wha?
23:38:47 <Bensawsome> powerjuce: multiple clients?
23:38:55 <SergentSiler> u mean servers?
23:38:59 <buckets> Yeah I'm likin Xchat, whoever packaged it did a good job.
23:38:59 <LOGAN> anyway i guess the latest DVD styler hasnt been released (my search found only the 1.7.0
23:39:00 <SergentSiler> cuz it can ;)
23:39:03 <Scriptdaemon> Accounts?
23:39:05 <powerjuce> like aim, yahoo, gtalk, irc
23:39:06 <powerjuce> yea
23:39:18 <SergentSiler> ah, so? :P
23:39:24 <Bensawsome> xchat can connect to multiple irc servers...
23:39:25 <Scriptdaemon> That's not the point of XChat, and I don't compare it to anything based on that.
23:39:30 <Bensawsome> im connected to 22 at the moment
23:39:38 <LOGAN> i guess I just download and install a local version.. latest version doesnt need external dependancies anymore so i finally dont look stupid when I try adding an avi :)
23:40:06 <powerjuce> i kno, but if u try and compare xchat to miranda you have to include that functionality
23:40:10 <Scriptdaemon> WAIT WHAT?
23:40:14 <Bensawsome> no... you dont
23:40:15 <Scriptdaemon> THEY OPEND WEAVE?
23:40:20 <Scriptdaemon> OPENED*
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23:40:30 <Bensawsome> xchat is a dedicated irc client
23:40:33 <daBomb69> Scriptdaemon: SERIOULSY!!!
23:40:37 <Scriptdaemon> Oh, nvm.
23:40:39 <Oni-Neoxes> Hey. I found a bug on PA's Site
23:40:41 <buckets> hmrmrm
23:40:51 <Bensawsome> you cant compare it with things like miranda or pidgin
23:40:53 <JacobMastel> Oni-Neoxes: Way to go you wated until the owner left :P
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23:40:59 <JacobMastel> *waited
23:41:07 <Scriptdaemon> It's worded as though it is, but when I tried entering my email it said "You have already asked to be notified when new invites become available!"
23:41:10 <Oni-Neoxes> hey. I JUST found it
23:41:18 <Bensawsome> suuuure
23:41:28 <Oni-Neoxes> ...
23:41:38 <SergentSiler> Oni-Neoxes, do tell
23:41:56 <LOGAN> oh well...
23:41:56 <Oni-Neoxes> http://portableapps.com/tracker Right beside All resent Post, Click My Recent post
23:41:58 <LOGAN> bye then
23:42:00 <Gizmokid2005> JacobMastel: I've got 3.77GB of pidgin logs right now...
23:42:03 <Oni-Neoxes> remember. BESIDE not under
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23:42:17 <JacobMastel> Gizmokid2005: I got an app that autocompresses mine
23:42:18 <OliverK> miranda doesn't support multiple IRC servers without copying the plugin
23:42:23 <OliverK> tis the suck
23:42:24 <JacobMastel> So they're a ton smaller.
23:42:34 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: i archive my xchat logs every few days.... usually they anywhere betweem 10 mb - 1gb
23:42:38 <Gizmokid2005> no no no no
23:42:41 <powerjuce> OliverK: so, its still lighter on resources than xchat is
23:42:41 <Gizmokid2005> I'm talking debug logs
23:42:42 <Gizmokid2005> not chat logs
23:42:43 <MaienM> I've only got 47.0 mb of logs :O
23:42:46 <daBomb69> Scriptdaemon is rihgt, Mozilla has released version 0.1 of Weave
23:42:51 <JacobMastel> oh lol
23:42:58 <SergentSiler> powerjuce, yeah, no
23:43:01 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
23:43:06 <Gizmokid2005> I can clear a fair amount out...
23:43:08 <SergentSiler> i dont see how xchat is heavy
23:43:21 <Gizmokid2005> there goes 2.66gb :)
23:43:49 <OliverK> powerjuce: yes, until you copy the plugin a dozen times
23:44:05 <Scriptdaemon> .1? 0.2.105 is the one that just updated.
23:44:33 <powerjuce> tru, but for me its worth it rather than having 7 different clients open i can just have one
23:44:44 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce: amen
23:44:56 <Gizmokid2005> I use pidgin and kvirc....I just need more in the way of admin functions from an IRC client
23:45:00 <daBomb69> Scriptdaemon, they're only releasing 0.1 4 DL
23:45:13 <powerjuce> Gizmokid2005: i just kno all the commands from the server/chanserv
23:45:17 <Bensawsome> Gizmokid2005: irssi with certain scripts ^_^
23:45:20 <Scriptdaemon> What page are you looking at?
23:45:22 <Bensawsome> or xchat
23:45:30 <Gizmokid2005> powerjuce: I do too, but I'm lazy
23:45:32 <SergentSiler> xchat F T W
23:45:40 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: I tried Irssi, it liked to cache the screen to the point it was unreadable...
23:45:41 <powerjuce> lol
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23:45:52 <Bensawsome> lol
23:45:54 <daBomb69> Scriptdaemon: http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/introducing-weave/
23:46:04 <powerjuce> plus u can skin the hell out of miranda
23:46:12 <Scriptdaemon> Ah, I said earlier that page hasn't been updated. Hold on.
23:46:12 <JacobMastel> Is it just me or does songbird look too much like Itunes?...
23:46:13 * Bensawsome goes off to read king arthur
23:46:29 <SergentSiler> ...lol
23:46:32 <OliverK> powerjuce: yes. But I have the ram for running tons of stuff
23:46:41 <OliverK> I never did figure out how to skin miranda thoguh
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23:46:48 <Bensawsome> orr....http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/weave/
23:46:56 <OliverK|Chowing> and that's why all is belated
23:47:28 <Scriptdaemon> https://services.mozilla.com/
23:47:34 <Scriptdaemon> Use that one.
23:48:19 * OliverK|Chowing thinks he's going through caffeine withdrawl
23:48:22 <OliverK|Chowing> *shudder*
23:48:26 <SergentSiler> lol
23:48:38 * SergentSiler feeds OliverK|Chowing caffene supplements
23:48:45 <OliverK|Chowing> NO!
23:48:49 <JacobMastel> Yeah Gizmokid2005 songbird 1.0 doesn't detect my zune :(
23:48:50 <daBomb69> Scriptdaemon, ur right
23:48:53 <OliverK|Chowing> i don't wanna 'em :(
23:48:55 <SergentSiler> YES! }:)
23:49:04 * SergentSiler forces OliverK|Chowing to eat them
23:49:11 <SergentSiler> eat em bish
23:49:21 <SergentSiler> }:D
23:49:29 <OliverK|Chowing> to bad, so sad
23:49:34 <OliverK|Chowing> I not eatin' em
23:49:46 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm. Try putting in your email if you haven't already.
23:49:50 * SergentSiler forces them down OliverK|Chowing's throat
23:49:59 <buckets> Detoxing OliverK?
23:50:02 <Scriptdaemon> I think they just updated, so those who already put in their email might get an invite soon.
23:50:07 <Scriptdaemon> I hope.
23:50:17 <SergentSiler> Eat em bish!
23:50:31 <OliverK|Chowing> buckets: detoxing is time for tea
23:50:35 <OliverK|Chowing> no, just withdrawl
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23:50:43 <OliverK|Chowing> or a splitting headache
23:50:47 <daBomb69> Scriptdaemon: How often do new invites become avalible?
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23:50:54 <Brando> heyyy!!!
23:51:01 <gluxon> Hi.
23:51:04 <gluxon> Need help?
23:51:11 <gluxon> With anything?
23:51:12 <Scriptdaemon> They have a roadmap somewhere for .3, let me see if I can find it again.
23:51:13 <Brando> how do you remove an app from your portableapps menu once it has been "installed"?
23:51:24 <JacobMastel> Delete it's folder
23:51:24 <Scriptdaemon> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Weave/Roadmap/0.3
23:51:31 <powerjuce> OliverK|Chowing: http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=61104366.png
23:51:37 <gluxon> Brando, my name is Brandon :D
23:51:49 <Brando> If I want to keep the software on my dongle, but just want to remove it from the menu?
23:51:50 <Scriptdaemon> Smaller bugfixes come out pretty quickly.
23:51:53 <JacobMastel> The app should have a folder under your install directory within the folder named Portableapps
23:51:54 <Oni-Neoxes> Hi brando!
23:52:00 <Brando> Hi peoples!
23:52:03 <JacobMastel> Then remove it from the portableapps folder and put it somewhere else
23:52:07 <Brando> gluxon - rad!
23:52:12 <JacobMastel> The menu does not yet support hidding certain apps
23:52:15 <JacobMastel> But the next release will
23:52:28 <Brando> there should be an "uninstall" option
23:52:41 <Brando> just as there is am "install" option
23:52:56 <Brando> does the program read from a hidden ini file or what?
23:53:03 <JacobMastel> No
23:53:03 <Brando> where does it pull it's cmds from?
23:53:06 <gluxon> The menu?
23:53:09 <gluxon> Or the apps?
23:53:13 <JacobMastel> It just autodetects every .exe from the directory
23:53:17 <Brando> the menu items
23:53:33 <JacobMastel> Example X:\PortableApps\FireFoxPortable\FireFoxPortable.exe
23:53:38 <JacobMastel> It just detects that .exe
23:53:42 <gluxon> The menu does store files in an ini... but that has nothing to do with the menu icons.
23:53:46 <Brando> i realize that an array can be used to trigger where the exe is at once the item has been clicked from the menu
23:53:50 <JacobMastel> the next menu release will be able to hid apps because it will find things differently
23:53:53 <gluxon> *settings not files
23:53:59 <Brando> gotcha
23:54:06 <JacobMastel> It will use the appinfo.ini within appinfo direcotyr
23:54:14 <gluxon> Brando: You have two options, wait or use a modified menu!!! :D
23:54:14 <Brando> perfect
23:54:18 <Brando> much smoother
23:54:23 <JacobMastel> X:\PortableApps\FireFox\App\AppInfo\appinfo.ini
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23:54:25 <pabot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more
23:54:29 <Brando> haha
23:54:35 <JacobMastel> *FireFoxPortable
23:54:37 <JacobMastel> Sorry
23:54:39 <gluxon> Brando: Want a link to a mondified menu?
23:54:46 <Brando> sure
23:54:49 <gluxon> But...
23:54:56 <Brando> i'm down to beta test or check out w/e
23:54:57 <gluxon> It's unsupported by PortableApps.com
23:55:02 <Brando> word
23:55:14 <ChrisMorgan> Brando: the PortableApps.com Platform 1.5 will be able to do this, alpha due tomorrow (Friday)
23:55:16 <Brando> where are you all from anyways?
23:55:25 <MaienM> the matrix ;)
23:55:31 <Brando> blah
23:55:31 <Gizmokid2005> 127.0.0.1 :
23:55:33 <Gizmokid2005> :)
23:55:35 <Brando> <---- Texas
23:55:38 <OliverK|Chowing> Brando: illinios for 19 years
23:55:39 <JacobMastel> Brando: I'm from Oregon
23:55:40 <ChrisMorgan> Melbourne
23:55:45 <ChrisMorgan> Australia :-)
23:55:45 <MaienM> The Netherlands
23:55:46 <SergentSiler> Conneticut FTW
23:55:49 <MaienM> (europe)
23:55:50 <ChrisMorgan> And I have to go now.
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23:56:01 <gluxon> Connecticut!!!
23:56:09 * SergentSiler is Nutmegger
23:56:11 <daBomb69> Iowa, USA
23:56:19 <Brando> Texas is better than all! rofl X]
23:56:22 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm.
23:56:22 * daBomb69 cheers for corn
23:56:26 <SergentSiler> XD
23:56:32 <Scriptdaemon> I just realized, I don't remember when I took my glasses off.
23:56:41 <OliverK|Chowing> Scriptdaemon: are they on top of your head?
23:56:48 <Scriptdaemon> Nope.
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23:56:57 <Brando> where is this menu link at?
23:57:01 <OliverK|Chowing> well, they aren't on my head
23:57:03 <Scriptdaemon> I think I took them off when I took a shower, now that I think about it.
23:57:04 <daBomb69> Brando: What does Texas have? Cacti?
23:57:05 <OliverK|Chowing> brando, digging
23:57:06 <JacobMastel> I bet texans would be really comferted if they new that if Alaska was cut in half Texas would become the 3rd largest state in the union...I can't remember who said it...
23:57:15 <Brando> TX has EverythinG!
23:57:23 <powerjuce> OliverK|Chowing: geek.menu or the direct mods?
23:57:26 <JacobMastel> :P
23:57:38 <Brando> Without Texas, this country would be nothing
23:57:40 <Brando> :-D
23:57:46 <OliverK|Chowing> geek menu is only for those who asked :D
23:57:56 <daBomb69> Without Texas, we would never have had to fight w/ Mexico!!
23:57:57 <Brando> geek menu?
23:58:06 <Brando> haha
23:58:12 <OliverK|Chowing> Brando: http://ptc.kain-planet.de/details.php?file=283
23:58:23 <Scriptdaemon> Bbl.
23:58:25 <Brando> chkng now
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23:58:42 <daBomb69> OliverK|Chowing: it's geek.menu, not geek menu
23:58:44 <OliverK|Chowing> without texas, well, how else would the stooges have made that great short?
23:58:52 <OliverK|Chowing> daBomb69: I know. I beta tested.
23:59:17 <powerjuce> same hre
23:59:20 <powerjuce> ere*
23:59:21 <OliverK|Chowing> but I didn't get no freaking sticker :(