IRC Log from 2009-07-13

00:31:44 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005: whats with the [Non-commercial] on KVIrc portable/
00:31:53 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: Qt 3
00:31:57 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: that's there because of the version of QT3
00:32:05 <Gizmokid2005> they didn't buy a commercial license and that was required to use it for free.
00:32:12 <daBomb69> oh, ok
00:32:12 <Gizmokid2005> that's the only reason it didn't go official.
00:32:17 <ChrisMorgan> Use KVIrc 4 and it's not there :D
00:32:22 <daBomb69> oh :)
00:32:28 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, KVirc4 = qt4
00:32:41 <daBomb69> ah :)
00:33:11 <ChrisMorgan> It's the only evil thing about Qt... the finally had the sense to kill it :-)
00:33:25 <Gizmokid2005> teah
00:33:26 <Gizmokid2005> &yeah
00:33:29 <Gizmokid2005> **yeah even
00:34:19 <daBomb69> oh
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00:36:31 <daBomb69> wb chris
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00:54:14 <rbrt13> hello
00:54:29 <ChrisMorgan> Hey rbrt13
00:54:33 <daBomb69> hey rbrt13
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01:11:40 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
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01:22:18 <ChrisMorgan> zoonzox: can we help you?
01:22:25 <zoonzox> can anybody give me a link to wink portable, the link i found is broken
01:22:59 <Bensawsome> if the link is down and itts a beta app there isnt anything we can do :/
01:23:23 <Bensawsome> until it is finalized we have no control on whether a link is dead or not
01:23:39 <zoonzox> ok, thanks anyway
01:23:40 <ChrisMorgan> Try http://cubegames.net/mint/pepper/tillkruess/downloads/tracker.php?url=http%3A//cubegames.net/downloads/WinkPortable_2.0.paf.exe (don't know if it works)
01:23:43 <ChrisMorgan> Just wait
01:23:47 <zoonzox> ok
01:24:03 <ChrisMorgan> I've also got a copy of the latest one by tanisthalon.
01:24:06 <zoonzox> thank you, it downloaded
01:24:23 <ChrisMorgan> OK. That isn't the latest test, but it should work well.
01:24:35 <ChrisMorgan> It's by an established developer of us.
01:24:52 <zoonzox> do you think you could give me a link to the latest one?
01:25:09 <ChrisMorgan> No, but I can see if I've still got it and upload it.
01:25:45 <zoonzox> thanks, i would appreciate it
01:25:49 <ChrisMorgan> Yes, still got it, I'll upload it.
01:26:31 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/Wink_Portable_2.0_Launcher_Development_Test_2_en-us.paf.exe
01:27:00 <zoonzox> thanks again!
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01:27:48 <rbrt13> does anyone in here have any experiance making circuit boards?
01:28:02 * ChrisMorgan :D
01:28:21 <rbrt13> i need to make a few in the next 11 months
01:28:37 <ChrisMorgan> To do what?
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01:30:33 <rbrt13> one of them goes in a little bot with a switch, a few buttons, and a joystick, and should be under 2 inches squared, it interprets the values of all of it's inputs, and sends them to the other one via a wireless link
01:30:54 <ChrisMorgan> I've never done anything that complex, unfortunately :-(
01:31:32 <rbrt13> the other one recieves the signals and coordinates the action of 2 motors and possible 2 aux boolean outputs
01:31:57 <rbrt13> the only good news is i found a place to buy microcontrolers for 94 cents with free shipping
01:32:18 <rbrt13> box*
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01:33:20 <rbrt13> and i have a program to design the schematics for the boards
01:33:34 <rbrt13> then i can print them onto a copper plate
01:33:39 <ChrisMorgan> What program?
01:33:39 <rbrt13> brb
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01:44:04 <rbrt13> EAGLE cad ( http://cadsoft.de )
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01:45:41 <rbrt131> there is a freeware version, which i use ( i can only use the front and back of the board though ), and a $125 version, which allows 16 layers of stuff
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01:46:12 <ChrisMorgan> I've never done any perssed circuits
01:47:01 <rbrt13> there is an easy way to make printed circuits with a laser printer
01:47:12 <ChrisMorgan> Really? How so?
01:47:16 <rbrt13> h/o
01:47:20 <ChrisMorgan> *pressed
01:47:33 <rbrt13> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urv6jArKp6M
01:47:40 <rbrt13> no, printed
01:48:07 <rbrt13> oh
01:48:37 <ChrisMorgan> I don't go to youtube
01:48:54 <rbrt13> oh, dialup, or are you just against it?
01:49:12 <ChrisMorgan> Definitely not dialup...!
01:49:19 <rbrt13> ok
01:49:28 <rbrt13> just against youtube>
01:49:31 <rbrt13> ?*
01:49:54 <ChrisMorgan> Sometimes the inconvenience, generally just better to stay away
01:50:01 <rbrt13> ah
01:50:18 <rbrt13> do you want me to download, convert, and send it to you?
01:50:25 <ChrisMorgan> Nah, don't bother
01:50:27 <rbrt13> ok
01:52:01 <Bensawsome> ChrisMorgan what ur afraid he will rick roll ya? :P
01:52:04 <Bensawsome> .title
01:52:05 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome: YouTube - Make Your Own Printed Circuit Boards on a Laserjet!
01:52:10 <Bensawsome> lol
01:52:30 <ChrisMorgan> Bensawsome: no, why would I?
01:52:50 <Bensawsome> lol im just kidding around
01:53:26 <ChrisMorgan> Really, how do they go about it? Is the carbon conductive?
01:55:09 <rbrt13> ?
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01:55:25 <ChrisMorgan> Laser printers work by fusing carbon onto the paper.
01:55:39 <rbrt13> no, toner
01:55:47 <ChrisMorgan> Which is carbon.
01:55:55 <rbrt13> in a special form
01:56:03 <ChrisMorgan> But carbon nonetheless :-)
01:56:15 <rbrt13> then it uses etching stuff to make the circuit paths
01:56:24 <rbrt13> then the toner comes off
01:56:50 <ChrisMorgan> So it's not just the printer?
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02:46:04 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: hello ;-)
02:46:23 <ZachThibeau> I think I got my site back up to where I want it to be :)
02:49:21 <ZachThibeau> and I started a pet project of making a notepad2 like editor but mostly for nsis in wxwidgets using wxscintilla :)
02:49:52 * rbrt13 is making an operating system
02:49:58 <ChrisMorgan> You seem to get a lot of these pet projects :P
02:50:07 <ChrisMorgan> rbrt13: out of?
02:50:17 <rbrt13> C++ and asm
02:50:24 <ChrisMorgan> What for?
02:50:30 <rbrt13> computer
02:50:35 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: no those other projects I don't consider pet projects I call that work ;)
02:51:01 <ChrisMorgan> musicplayer3000 or whatever it was?
02:51:10 <ChrisMorgan> And /why/ another text editor?
02:51:23 * rbrt13 wants an win32 dissasembler
02:51:36 <ZachThibeau> ahh well mp3k is something I wanted to do and the text editor is something I just want to do out of fun :P
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02:52:27 <daBomb69> ChrisMorgan! We missed you!
02:52:32 <ZachThibeau> ChrisMorgan: in case you didn't get what I typed :P <ZachThibeau> ahh well mp3k is something I wanted to do and the text editor is something I just want to do out of fun :P
02:53:17 <ZachThibeau> basically I'm getting into c++ by myself :)
02:53:36 <daBomb69> ZachThibeau: if your gonna learn a language, learn Perl!
02:53:50 <ChrisMorgan> Terrible. Al I did was plot sin(x) from 0 to 1000 in Inkscape, and it disconnected...
02:54:00 <ZachThibeau> daBomb69: only a script kiddie would suggest that ;)
02:54:04 <ZachThibeau> and ouch ChrisMorgan
02:54:15 <ZachThibeau> daBomb69: C++ is a real mans programming language :P
02:54:36 <ChrisMorgan> What's wrong with taking 1000 samples of sin(x) from 0 to 1000?
02:54:42 <daBomb69> ZachThibeau: ya, but everyone's favorite person needs help with his Perl bot, not the C++ one... :P
02:54:46 <ChrisMorgan> s/1000/2000*pi/
02:54:51 <daBomb69> ChrisMorgan: isn't that math?
02:54:52 <daBomb69> and
02:55:02 <daBomb69> isn't Inkscape a drawing app?
02:55:08 <ChrisMorgan> So?
02:55:17 <ChrisMorgan> Does that stop me from using the function plotter?
02:55:27 <daBomb69> oh, the what?
02:55:29 <ZachThibeau> daBomb69: well I wouldn't consider you my favourite person :P
02:55:43 <daBomb69> ok, everyone's not-favorite
02:55:44 <daBomb69> :P
02:56:00 <daBomb69> brb
02:56:07 <ChrisMorgan> Whoops... I've got to do it again as I'd done it radially... *sigh* ;-)
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02:56:14 <ZachThibeau> lol
02:56:22 <ZachThibeau> you crash in style I guess :P
02:57:16 <ChrisMorgan> Nothing... crashed. :-(
02:57:23 <ChrisMorgan> *WAAAH*!
02:57:38 <ZachThibeau> could be a good sign maybe :P
02:57:53 <ChrisMorgan> I deleted it, undid the deletion, and then it crashed a bit...
02:58:14 <ChrisMorgan> But the first time, nothing crashed... the system became totally unresponsive for 30 seconds, but who cares about that?
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03:04:30 <Gizmokid2005> RELEASE: Songbird Portable 1.2 DT1 - http://portableapps.com/node/19953
03:05:23 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: you emphazing something?
03:05:24 <ZachThibeau> # Thanks for all the help from fellow Devs :)
03:05:24 <ZachThibeau> # Thanks for all the help from fellow Devs :)
03:05:31 <ZachThibeau> thats in there twice :P
03:05:40 <Gizmokid2005> ...
03:05:41 <Gizmokid2005> crap ty
03:05:53 <ZachThibeau> np :P
03:06:14 <Gizmokid2005> Hmmm
03:07:08 <Gizmokid2005> fixed
03:07:12 <ZachThibeau> yay
03:07:51 <ZachThibeau> installing now
03:08:05 <Gizmokid2005> :)
03:08:09 <Gizmokid2005> I upgraded mine and had no issues
03:08:16 <Gizmokid2005> it took a while to resort the database
03:08:18 <Gizmokid2005> but it works fine :)
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03:20:18 <ChrisMorgan> Why is my "cs op #portableapps $my.nick" not working?
03:22:33 <Gizmokid2005> are you just using /away and /back
03:22:33 <Gizmokid2005> ?
03:22:43 <ChrisMorgan> yes
03:22:57 <Gizmokid2005> what event do you have that code in?
03:23:06 <ChrisMorgan> OnMeBack
03:23:58 <Gizmokid2005> OK, check the server window, is there any input in that window?
03:24:02 <ChrisMorgan> Somehow it was disabled.
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03:24:11 <Gizmokid2005> it'll happen if it's broke and causing issues.
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03:24:17 <Gizmokid2005> it'll autodisable it.
03:24:25 <ChrisMorgan> K.
03:25:17 <ChrisMorgan> OK, all working now :-)
03:25:26 <ChrisMorgan> I had $my.nicknick for #bpbible for some reason...
03:25:35 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks for your help setting up KVIrc :-)
03:26:13 <Gizmokid2005> lol
03:26:16 <Gizmokid2005> anytime ChrisMorgan
03:26:20 <Gizmokid2005> I'm still learning here and there myself.
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03:46:59 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005|AFK: s/who's/whose/
03:47:19 <ChrisMorgan> "who's launcher I used" --- who is, not whose ;-)
04:09:37 <ZachThibeau> night all 1am and I'm tired
04:09:45 <daBomb69> night zach
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04:11:18 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is the engaged man - who'll be the married man on 3/20/10!
04:14:19 <Gizmokid2005> ty ChrisMorgan, idk how I mucked that one up
04:15:04 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: wait...it's already "who's"
04:15:24 <ChrisMorgan> It *shouldn't* be who's.
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04:15:31 <ChrisMorgan> Who's = who is.
04:15:37 <Gizmokid2005> no
04:15:40 <Gizmokid2005> who's = ownership
04:15:51 <ChrisMorgan> .dict who's
04:15:52 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan: Sorry, no definition found.
04:15:55 <Gizmokid2005> http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000268.htm
04:15:58 <daBomb69> ChrisMorgan: he could be using who as a pronoun and using who's to show ownership
04:16:02 <Gizmokid2005> well fark
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04:16:10 <Gizmokid2005> but I am using it as a noun
04:16:23 <Gizmokid2005> but I see where you are right
04:16:24 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: exactly as that page says
04:16:27 <Gizmokid2005> one reason I HATE the english language.
04:16:29 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005: pronoun and noun are essentially the same thing
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04:16:40 * daBomb69 perfers English to latin!
04:16:42 <Gizmokid2005> daBomb69: I know.
04:16:47 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, but ChrisMorgan is right.
04:16:47 <Gizmokid2005> gah
04:17:00 <ChrisMorgan> Which language do you prefer?
04:17:00 <ChrisMorgan> C? C++?
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04:17:07 <daBomb69> Perl!
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04:17:17 <ChrisMorgan> PHP or Python :D
04:17:31 <daBomb69> woot! Yay for Python!
04:17:32 <rbrt13> ChrisMorgan's point of view
04:17:53 <rbrt13> PHP (in terms of performance) > Python
04:18:08 <daBomb69> Python (in terms of awesomeness) > PHP
04:18:21 <daBomb69> AND! Python's currant license is GPL-compatible
04:18:26 <daBomb69> PHP 's is not!
04:18:35 <ChrisMorgan> daBomb69: s/currant/current/
04:18:49 <ChrisMorgan> Also, "AND!" is not gramatically correct :-)
04:18:50 <daBomb69> ChrisMorgan: currants are yummier :P
04:19:05 <daBomb69> AND! i'm using AN! and an interjective
04:19:07 <rbrt13> i am speaking from a statistical standpoint, PHP runs faster than Python
04:19:08 <daBomb69> *AND!
04:19:32 <ChrisMorgan> It seems to me raisonable to expect that at this currant date you should be able to express yourself better :-)
04:19:35 <daBomb69> rbrt13: true. But, because PHP!=GPL-Compatible, it's evil!
04:19:43 <ChrisMorgan> pah.
04:19:49 <rbrt13> brb
04:19:56 <ChrisMorgan> rbrt13: not for GUI apps
04:20:06 * daBomb69 votes we all just learn Parrot
04:20:17 * rbrt13 wants to learn B
04:20:27 <rbrt13> or A+
04:20:27 <ChrisMorgan> And with mod_wsgi, I'm not sure that PHP is faster for web apps any more.
04:20:34 * daBomb69 can code in h
04:20:49 * rbrt13 knows some asm
04:20:58 * daBomb69 can do whitespace
04:21:04 * ChrisMorgan knows how to make much nicer things in Inkscape :D
04:21:09 <daBomb69> yay?
04:21:13 <rbrt13> woot Inkscape
04:21:25 <rbrt13> woot SVG
04:21:28 <daBomb69> Woot! Go Inkscape!
04:21:34 <rbrt13> woot Vectorization
04:21:36 <daBomb69> Woot png!
04:21:42 <rbrt13> Alt + Shift + B
04:21:43 <daBomb69> Woot wooting@
04:21:59 <daBomb69> *wooting!
04:22:07 <ChrisMorgan> rbrt13: tracing bitmaps is not the best thing in Inkscape.
04:22:53 <rbrt13> it is the only thing that i know of that can trace bitmaps
04:23:05 <ChrisMorgan> So?
04:23:25 <rbrt13> so it is, by default, the best for the job that i am aware of
04:23:37 <ChrisMorgan> :/
04:24:19 <daBomb69> lol
04:33:59 <ChrisMorgan> What I've just been working on, http://chrismorgan.info/pix/duonex.png, is much cooler than tracing.
04:34:44 <Gizmokid2005> Page not found
04:34:44 <Gizmokid2005> The requested page could not be found.
04:34:50 <Gizmokid2005> nvm
04:34:55 <Gizmokid2005> it parsed the , too
04:35:15 <ChrisMorgan> Is a 404 page cooler than tracing bitmaps..? ;-)
04:35:37 <Gizmokid2005> yep
04:39:53 <ChrisMorgan> And thinking about SVG... http://www.tapper-ware.net/2009/05/perspective-texture-with-6-lines-of-svg.html is a pretty cool thing with SVG filters. And it performs surprisingly well. FF 3.5 only.
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04:50:37 <Whibo> Hackmii Installer runs on wich ios?
04:53:38 <Gizmokid2005> g'night all. Enjoy Songbird :)
04:53:47 <daBomb69> night gizmo
04:53:52 <ChrisMorgan|Away> gnite Gizmokid2005
04:53:56 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I won't :-)
04:53:57 <ChrisMorgan|Away> ;-)
04:53:58 <Gizmokid2005> nite ChrisMorgan|Away, daBomb69, et all
04:54:01 <Gizmokid2005> *et al
04:54:28 <ChrisMorgan|Away> et all is fine... et being latin, all being a reversion to English...
04:54:35 <ChrisMorgan|Away> ;-)
04:55:10 <ChrisMorgan|Away> This ;-) smiley is wonky. In the text, the right eye is winking; in the picture, the left one is.
04:55:38 <ChrisMorgan|Away> In Pidgin, the :/ smiley is the wrong way round too...
04:55:55 <ChrisMorgan|Away> And in KVIrc it's just crazy rather than upside down or flipped... :S
04:56:00 <ChrisMorgan|Away> (Same with :S)
04:56:02 <ChrisMorgan|Away> :O
04:56:20 <daBomb69> :P
04:56:28 <daBomb69> xP
04:56:36 <daBomb69> xP has no smily icon :(
04:56:37 <ChrisMorgan|Away> , Windows?
04:56:47 <ChrisMorgan|Away> :'(
04:56:53 <daBomb69> nor does :'(
04:57:27 <ChrisMorgan|Away> sad should be a smiley...
04:57:38 <ChrisMorgan|Away> It appears as a mostly-transparent bell...
04:58:11 <daBomb69> ChrisMorgan|Away: whats that one?
04:58:22 <ChrisMorgan|Away> sad
04:58:37
04:58:53 <daBomb69> :')
04:59:06 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I'm sure it should be something more like ::) and ::( :P
04:59:33 <ChrisMorgan|Away> :') :`) :'( :`( - any come up for you?
04:59:45 <daBomb69> nope
04:59:47 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Nor me :P
04:59:55 <daBomb69> heh :P
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05:08:03 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Must resist kicking Gizmokid|Mac... must... resist...
05:08:27 <daBomb69> heh
05:08:31 <Gizmokid|Mac> lol
05:08:36 <Gizmokid|Mac> you don't want to do that
05:08:38 <Gizmokid|Mac> trust me :P
05:09:31 <ChrisMorgan|Away> ;-)
05:10:21 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Really though, a /Mac/...
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05:10:40 <ChrisMorgan|Away> (Did you get that as underlined?)
05:10:43 <Gizmokid|Mac> yep.
05:10:45 <Gizmokid|Mac> and no
05:10:51 <Gizmokid|Mac> it's a channel setting
05:10:52 <daBomb69> nope
05:11:03 <Gizmokid|Mac> +c channel mode strips everything
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05:11:16 <ChrisMorgan|Away> I knew that it didn't work with Chatzilla because of the +c, but thought it possible it'd do it a different way
05:11:22 <Gizmokid|Mac> nope
05:11:24 <Gizmokid|Mac> because it's server side
05:11:27 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Why have we got +c really?
05:11:30 <Gizmokid|Mac> it's a channel mode
05:11:33 <Gizmokid|Mac> default by freenode
05:11:42 <Gizmokid|Mac> keeps things clean and easy to read
05:11:47 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005|AFK: it;s not a fn default
05:11:48 <ChrisMorgan|Away> So why not change it! ;-)
05:11:53 <ChrisMorgan|Away> daBomb69: it is
05:11:59 <Gizmokid|Mac> daBomb69: yes. it is
05:12:04 <Gizmokid|Mac> ChrisMorgan|Away: see my last reason why
05:12:23 <ChrisMorgan|Away> +tnc are the defaults. Some remove +c. Some don't.
05:12:27 <daBomb69> ...
05:12:28 <daBomb69> wird
05:12:32 <daBomb69> *weird
05:12:39 <Gizmokid|Mac> yeah, if this wasn't support and whatnot mIght consider it
05:12:49 <Gizmokid|Mac> but some people go crazy and it's irritating.
05:13:06 <ChrisMorgan|Away> Gizmokid|Mac: though, from my reading of the IRC specs, +c is *block* those things, +s or something to just strip them.
05:13:16 <Gizmokid|Mac> no
05:13:22 <Gizmokid|Mac> +s = secret
05:13:27 <Gizmokid|Mac> on freenode
05:13:55 <Gizmokid|Mac> +c I suppose strips them, because the messages come through still
05:13:56 <Gizmokid|Mac> so..
05:14:00 <daBomb69> same on most other ircds
05:14:29 <Gizmokid|Mac> yup
05:15:32 <ChrisMorgan|Away> The document I read said block rather than strip. Ah well :P
05:16:27 <Gizmokid|Mac> there really isn't any way to tell I suppose..unless you are defining block as informing the user their message was blocked/ignore because it contained that formatting.
05:18:40 <Bensawsome> its differenht for different ircds
05:19:08 <Bensawsome> freenode just has +c to strip em. other servers have a setting that will just cancel out your whole message if it has any color in them
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05:57:59 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher.
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06:19:27 <ChrisMorgan> Hey upnPAD
06:19:45 <upnPAD> yo ChrisMorgan
06:19:46 <upnPAD> hows life
06:20:21 <ChrisMorgan> Greeting you was a ploy to get someone to speak so I could test something in KVIrc... it didn't work :-(
06:20:29 <ChrisMorgan> Ah well, hello anyway ;-)
06:20:44 <ChrisMorgan> Fine... except that I've got to go back to school tomorrow :-(
06:21:43 <upnPAD> i c
06:21:47 <upnPAD> holidays started today for me x)
06:22:17 <ChrisMorgan> SHH!
06:22:37 <ChrisMorgan> It's not polite to laugh at people.
06:23:38 <ChrisMorgan> upnPAD: say something!
06:24:07 <upnPAD> lol
06:24:15 <ChrisMorgan> :-(
06:24:21 <ChrisMorgan> $window doesn't work either...
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07:15:12 <ChrisMorgan> Oh no... I am succumbing!
07:15:34 <ChrisMorgan> I have been hypnotised by HypnoToad's luminous green eyes!
07:15:45 <HypnoToad> wait, where's pabot?
07:15:51 <ChrisMorgan> Gone
07:15:56 * HypnoToad glares at ChrisMorgan
07:16:00 <ChrisMorgan> You'd better create a def with GizmoBot:P
07:16:00 <MaienM> as usual :(
07:16:18 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: what's it like being voiced here? :-)
07:16:28 * ChrisMorgan glares back at HypnoToad
07:16:30 <HypnoToad> .def HypnoToad is currenALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD
07:16:30 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad: Def manipulation is only allowed in #gizmokid2005
07:16:37 <HypnoToad> :/
07:16:38 <MaienM> don
07:16:46 <HypnoToad> .def HypnoToad
07:16:46 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad: Sorry, but I don't know you.
07:16:47 <MaienM> gah, stupid keyboard
07:16:54 <ChrisMorgan> Hypnotic control method is currently mirror :-)
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07:17:56 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad is currenALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD
07:17:57 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad is currenALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD
07:18:10 <HypnoToad> ah.
07:18:17 * ChrisMorgan buries HypnoToad in hail
07:18:52 <MaienM> brb, restart to (hopefully) make my keyboard behave nicely again
07:18:56 <HypnoToad> .def polkamon
07:18:57 <GizmoBot> HypnoToad: Sorry, but I don't know about polkamon
07:19:04 <HypnoToad> ...wat
07:20:06 <ChrisMorgan> HypnoToad: Sorry, but I don't know about polkadots
07:20:17 <HypnoToad> .wik polkamon
07:20:18 <GizmoBot> "Polkamon is the title of a song by American parodist 'Weird Al' Yankovic released on the soundtrack of Pokémon The Movie 2000." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polkamon
07:21:38 <ChrisMorgan> Polkadots have an anti-hypnotic influence." - ChrisMorgan
07:21:57 <ChrisMorgan> Hey, what did you do to me!? I'm not hypnotised any more :-)
07:26:59 <MaienM> damn, that didn't work either :(
07:28:09 <MaienM> ChrisMorgan: what response did you get?
07:28:23 <ChrisMorgan> To what?
07:28:27 <ChrisMorgan> CTCP VERSION?
07:28:30 <MaienM> yes
07:28:36 <ChrisMorgan> None
07:28:54 <ChrisMorgan> I was wondering what client you were using...
07:29:03 <MaienM> in that case, XChat 2.8.6 Linux ;)
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07:29:21 <HypnoToad> aww, not PChat? =P
07:29:39 <MaienM> I was asking because one of the script I had used to give a really weird response, and I was wondering whether it was still doing that ;)
07:39:42 <HypnoToad> .t aest
07:39:42 <GizmoBot> Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:45:52 AEST
07:45:55 <MaienM> wow, you're in the future :O
07:46:21 <ChrisMorgan> I just need to find a time when it gets to midnight for one of you foreigners and then say "Welcome to today :-)"
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08:21:53 <HypnoToad> hmm, MUSHClient still appears to have some of its files in the registry.
08:25:14 <HypnoToad> http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9260#53120
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08:37:17 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
08:37:49 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
08:38:05 <SteveLamerton> Heya MaienM
08:42:57 <HypnoToad> ohai SteveLamerton
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08:43:11 <SteveLamerton> Hello HypnoToad
08:43:14 <HypnoToad> hmm, Don seems to cut out quite a lot
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10:24:28 <SteveLamerton> .seen johnthaller
10:24:28 <GizmoBot> SteveLamerton: I last saw johnthaller at 2009-07-10 03:46:47 UTC on #portableapps
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10:41:16 <ChrisMorgan> Wow, KVIrc survived this time I killed the computer with Inkscape...
10:42:33 <HypnoToad> so I take it kvirc is crash prone?
10:42:43 <SteveLamerton> How did you kill the pc with inkscape?
10:42:45 <HypnoToad> and how did you manage it with inkscape?
10:42:58 <ChrisMorgan> 4.0 does have a tendancy to crash, but that's not what I'm talking about.
10:43:41 <ChrisMorgan> Using Inkscape making thousands upon thousands of tiled clones by accident, telling it to fill an /area/ rather than a number of rows and columns...
10:44:25 <ChrisMorgan> Last time I did the sin(x) from 0 to 2000*pi (1000 samples, radial), KVIrc lost its connection.
10:44:33 <ChrisMorgan> I really should be more careful next time :D
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10:46:47 <SteveLamerton> Hello rmccue
10:46:54 <HypnoToad> ohai jnw222
10:46:54 <rmccue> Hola.
10:46:56 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: pabot.
10:47:06 <rmccue> In a minute. :)
10:54:05 <ChrisMorgan> rmccue: you've missed your minute... and another 6.
10:55:12 <rmccue> I'm copying a massive file and my system is already slow enough without VNC. I have an excuse. :P
10:55:25 <ChrisMorgan> No you don't :-)
10:56:00 <HypnoToad> /kick ChrisMorgan stop expecting a release date/time from an OSS community. It'll never happen.
10:56:04 <HypnoToad> =P
11:01:02 <jnw222> :p
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11:37:38 <NiceGuy> Hi I wante to ask. What will come with the new Future PortableApps.com Platform 1.6 Final
11:38:09 <ChrisMorgan> It depends on what gets into it really. Mostly, just what's in Pre-Release 0.
11:38:17 <ChrisMorgan> It may have some extra features, it may not.
11:39:19 <NiceGuy> Is there gonna be bold word feature
11:39:19 <NiceGuy> like in 1.5.2
11:39:19 <ChrisMorgan> It will improve icon display on Vista and 7 though, thanks to the addition of appicon_16.png to AppInfo (don't worry if you don't understand).
11:39:38 <ChrisMorgan> Do you mean large fonts?
11:39:55 <NiceGuy> yes
11:40:14 <ChrisMorgan> There is no reason that such a feature would be removed. Yes.
11:41:25 <NiceGuy> Because I did not find in Pre-Release 0. And I did think that was to be removed
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11:41:42 <ChrisMorgan> Not there? That sounds mighty strange.
11:42:25 <NiceGuy> I did try it before. Maybe I did not find it
11:42:31 <ChrisMorgan> I don't have a copy of 1.6 PR0, so I can't confirm it.
11:42:39 <ChrisMorgan> But I would be very surprised if the feature were removed.
11:43:28 <NiceGuy> here try it on
11:43:31 <NiceGuy> http://portableapps.com/node/18859
11:43:41 <NiceGuy> If you wante to
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11:44:01 <ChrisMorgan> I know where to get it, I just don't need it.
11:44:51 <ChrisMorgan> ...one hour after promising pabot in a minute, rmccue left, without having produced the requisite bot... hope rmccue reads this bit :P
11:44:52 <NiceGuy> It just looks strange without the large fonts feature
11:46:00 <NiceGuy> I am using 1.5.2
11:48:31 <NiceGuy> I am gonna go now. But Thanks for the help
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12:17:21 <Horusofoz> Spam - http://portableapps.com/node/16257#comment-122852
12:23:06 <SteveLamerton> Thanks Horusofoz
12:25:15 <Horusofoz> SteveLamerton: No prob
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17:06:58 <jnw222> hello
17:07:10 <daBomb69> 'ello jnw222
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17:31:28 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
17:31:49 <daBomb69> morning SteveLamerton
17:32:12 <SteveLamerton> Evening daBomb69
17:32:35 <daBomb69> oh
17:32:59 <daBomb69> Good evening Steve
17:33:27 <Gizmokid2005> hello SteveLamerton :)
17:33:27 <SteveLamerton> Yep, in the UK here, US for you I guess?
17:33:33 <SteveLamerton> Hello Gizmokid2005
17:33:37 <daBomb69> yup, US
17:34:06 <SteveLamerton> Anyone seen John about recently?
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17:34:42 <Gizmokid2005> no
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17:35:21 <daBomb69> .seen johnthaler
17:35:21 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen johnthaler around.
17:35:29 <Gizmokid2005> .seen johnthaller
17:35:29 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: I last saw johnthaller at 2009-07-10 03:46:47 UTC on #portableapps
17:35:33 <Gizmokid2005> .t utc
17:35:33 <GizmoBot> 2009-07-13T17:41:46Z
17:35:39 <daBomb69> oh
17:35:39 <Gizmokid2005> over 3.5 days
17:35:55 <SteveLamerton> Hmmmm, I need to bug him about setting up the translation mailing list!
17:36:43 <SteveLamerton> I guess I shall add it to my next email
17:38:07 <Gizmokid2005> lol
17:38:08 <Gizmokid2005> :)
17:39:43 <SteveLamerton> Ah ha! I have an email from the ccrypt author, looks like Toucan will be skipping release 1.8, the next internationalisation library makes the exe over 10 times bigger! He said he might make it optional in the release after though, so that would be good as Toucan handles all of that at the moment anyway.
17:40:22 <Gizmokid2005> :)
17:41:10 <SteveLamerton> Right, that was the last thing on the 2.1.2 release checklist, well apart from the language stuff, so looks like I better send it for release :O
17:45:58 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
17:46:02 <Gizmokid2005> did you see I got songbird out? :)
17:46:37 <SteveLamerton> Yes, I spotted that, nice to see someone has picked it up :) Should be very popular!
17:46:54 <Gizmokid2005> :) it should, as of this morning (about 12 hours after it was posted) it had 35 dls already.
17:47:49 <SteveLamerton> Pretty good going considering how few people test pre-releases!
17:47:54 <daBomb69> wow
17:48:24 <Gizmokid2005> yep.
17:48:32 <Gizmokid2005> I have to update the test releases page to add it on there
17:48:37 <Gizmokid2005> as well as RSSOwl and KVIrc updates.
17:48:49 <Gizmokid2005> but right now I"m installing dependencies so I can compile KVIrc myself.
17:49:26 <SteveLamerton> The sourceforge stats page is still as rubbish as it used to be :(
17:49:46 <Gizmokid2005> :(
17:49:50 <Gizmokid2005> I use MaienM's DL counter :D
17:49:58 <Gizmokid2005> well..>DL Script, it's more than a counter.
17:50:09 <Gizmokid2005> and wow...QT4 is huge...1.4GB
17:50:19 <daBomb69> WOW
17:50:38 <MaienM> I won't claim my script is bug free, but it does work :P
17:50:57 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: nothing is bug free...but it does work, and you are a dilligent dev who helps when a bug is foudn :D
17:50:58 <Gizmokid2005> *found
17:51:03 <Gizmokid2005> instead of (file a report) lol
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17:54:48 <SteveLamerton> Woooo, the new version of Toucan is going to be smaller than the old one :D
17:54:53 <Gizmokid2005> YAY!
17:55:01 <daBomb69> yay
17:55:12 <SteveLamerton> That is always good news in my opinion
17:55:34 <Gizmokid2005> I agree
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17:57:05 <daBomb69> ya :)
18:00:04 <excid3> anyone have a dual channel flash drive?
18:00:32 <Gizmokid2005> I don't even use a flash drive... lol sorry excid3
18:00:36 <excid3> lol
18:00:39 <excid3> I'm buying some for work
18:00:47 <SteveLamerton> I think the ocz rally 2 claims to be dual channel, I have one lying around here somewhere
18:00:56 <excid3> Not sure what the speed differences are like single vs dual
18:01:01 <excid3> Yeah, thats what I was looking at St
18:01:08 <excid3> SteveLamerton*
18:01:56 <SteveLamerton> It was definitely a lot faster than my old Corsair Voyager
18:02:16 <excid3> I'm definitely buying a dual channel.
18:02:35 <excid3> I've got a PNY Attache, 2 Flash Voyagers and some random one I found on the ground
18:02:51 <excid3> Rally2's are $14 on newegg for 4gb ones.
18:02:52 <excid3> Not bad
18:03:21 <Gizmokid2005> not at all
18:03:45 <SteveLamerton> Very good I would say
18:03:48 <excid3> There's 8gb ones for $16 but I think the speed is a better trade off than storage capacity
18:04:53 <excid3> since those are single channel ones
18:05:14 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
18:05:15 <SteveLamerton> Ahhh yes, I would stick to the dual
18:06:24 <excid3> None of you would have experience with motherboards and onboard video cards would you? I've got this new desktop I built, saved some money going onboard graphics...or so I thought. Appears my usb 1.1 keyboard on the same interrupt as the video card causes my usb devices to all die out after a while in Debian :(
18:06:54 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: that's odd....I don't use Linux and onboard gpu
18:07:23 <Gizmokid2005> but I do have onboard gpu right now, but I disabled it because I got a dedicated GPU
18:07:35 <excid3> Yeah, one of the hardest things to diagnose. Apparently it works with Fedora fine though.
18:07:42 <Gizmokid2005> odd.
18:07:51 <excid3> Yeah, dedicated GPU would fix my issue.
18:08:01 <excid3> I'd like to not have to spend any extra money though.
18:08:12 <excid3> Since in no way do I need a dedicated card.
18:08:33 <SteveLamerton> Thats is really odd
18:08:35 <excid3> And with the little about of data going over the keyboard, USB 1.1 was plenty for them while they were designing it.
18:08:59 <excid3> Yeah..don't ever recommend an Asus M#N78 Motherboard to anyone.
18:09:43 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, mobos are hard to find good ones these days
18:10:08 <excid3> Indeed, and I find that very sad.
18:10:20 <Gizmokid2005> yep
18:10:28 <Gizmokid2005> my first one I got in my recent build was pretty much DOA
18:10:38 <Bensawsome> >_>
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18:11:29 <Gizmokid2005> my original: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135075
18:11:37 <Gizmokid2005> the one I'm running now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157139
18:11:57 <excid3> I love that newegg still has 1 motherboard with AGP.
18:12:02 <Gizmokid2005> lol yep :D
18:12:09 <excid3> And in the Customers Also Bought it lists a $600 case.
18:12:14 <excid3> I find that hard to believe. :P
18:12:44 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
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18:12:49 <Gizmokid2005> there are though...it's insane
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18:13:59 <Bensawsome> ooohaaai ptmb ^_^
18:14:06 <ptmb> Hi Bensawsome!
18:14:15 <ptmb> Hello everybody!
18:14:18 <excid3> Anyone with some google fu willing to search for the OCZ Rally 2 8gb for under $20 for me? :)
18:14:33 <excid3> I can't seem to find anything, and I'm not spending over $20 for a flash drive.
18:14:40 <daBomb69> .g OCZ Rally 2 8gb under $20
18:14:41 <GizmoBot> daBomb69: http://www.mysimon.com/9566-3240_8-0.html?q=ocz+atv+turbo+8gb
18:14:45 <daBomb69> .title
18:14:45 <Gizmokid2005> excid3: where are you looking?
18:14:46 <excid3> lmao
18:14:47 <GizmoBot> daBomb69: "ocz atv turbo 8gb" | USB Flash Drives at mySimon
18:14:51 <daBomb69> excid3: :)
18:15:05 <excid3> Gizmokid2005: newegg, amazon, tiger direct, etc
18:15:09 <excid3> the usual
18:15:13 <Gizmokid2005> those are all the places I'd look
18:15:21 <Gizmokid2005> Amazon is really competitive with newegg on a lot of thigns
18:15:23 <Gizmokid2005> *things
18:15:26 <excid3> Those OCZ ATV drives are ugly
18:15:29 <Gizmokid2005> the only other place I can offer is buy.com or geeks.com
18:15:43 <excid3> Yeah, they have the same price is ridiculous
18:15:55 <Gizmokid2005> then I'd have to say you are pretty SoL right now.
18:16:15 <excid3> Eh oh well, 4gb drives will do me just fine.
18:16:26 <excid3> Thanks anyways
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18:17:43 <excid3> Sites with McAfee Secure Tested Daily banners scare me.
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18:27:50 <excid3> Google employees must love their jobs http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww211/jeep2003/2075oid.jpg
18:28:04 <Gizmokid2005> I'd LOVE to work for google.
18:28:26 <daBomb69> lol
18:28:30 <excid3> me too
18:28:43 <excid3> I'm looking at applying to the open source division after college
18:28:57 <excid3> Pretty sure that campus is up in Chicago
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18:30:36 <SteveLamerton> Wouldnt we all, there London office looks good fun to me
18:31:07 <Gizmokid2005> *their
18:31:08 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
18:31:14 <Gizmokid2005> I'm dl'ing KVirc source right now...
18:31:26 <SteveLamerton> Ouch, yes sorry about that spelling mistake!
18:31:32 <Gizmokid2005> lol no worried :)
18:31:41 <Gizmokid2005> *worries
18:32:08 <SteveLamerton> My old english teacher would be shocked
18:32:19 <Gizmokid2005> lol
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18:48:46 <Gizmokid2005> KVirc Make files currently generating :)
18:49:02 <Gizmokid2005> annnd...make is on its way :0
18:49:05 <Gizmokid2005> *:)
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18:54:42 <SteveLamerton> Good luck Gizmokid2005
18:54:52 <Gizmokid2005> thanks, it's still making.
18:54:57 <Gizmokid2005> 25%
18:55:06 <Gizmokid2005> the dev that builds the win32 builds says it takes him 1.5 hours to build it in a Vm.
18:57:04 <excid3> Wow
18:57:09 <Gizmokid2005> yep.
18:57:15 <Gizmokid2005> the dependencies are unreal
18:57:39 <excid3> I make it a point to write code with the least amount of dependencies possible.
18:57:55 <Gizmokid2005> QT4, cmake, openssl, zlib, gettext (for translations) and quarkplayer for phonon support.
18:58:04 <Gizmokid2005> 30%..\
18:58:16 <SteveLamerton> Yeah, I was working on Toucans build time recently, the whole thing compiles in uner 2 minutes now
18:58:20 <SteveLamerton> *under
18:58:30 <Gizmokid2005> nice
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18:59:10 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
19:05:52 <excid3> cya later guys
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19:08:11 <Gizmokid2005> 49% make now :)
19:08:20 <daBomb69> woo!
19:08:39 <Gizmokid2005> yep
19:21:17 <Gizmokid2005> Test Releases page updated :) - RSSowl is added, NSIS and SB are updated
19:21:18 <Gizmokid2005> yay
19:21:21 <Gizmokid2005> busy man today
19:26:31 <jnw222> cool
19:26:42 <jnw222> anything using cmake seems slow
19:27:01 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
19:27:06 <Gizmokid2005> 87%now
19:27:11 <Gizmokid2005> +
19:27:12 <Gizmokid2005> lol
19:27:21 <jnw222> openscenegraph, kvirc
19:27:22 <Gizmokid2005> (that was + (space))
19:28:54 <SteveLamerton> Nice Gizmokid2005
19:29:07 <ZachThibeau> well cmake + vba-m isn't bad
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19:34:58 <ZachThibeau> btw howdy SteveLamerton
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19:35:29 <SteveLamerton> Hi ZachThibeau
19:35:40 <ZachThibeau> how's toucan coming along?
19:35:55 <SteveLamerton> Sent 2.1.2 off for release earlier :)
19:36:06 <Gizmokid2005> YAY build done!
19:36:06 <ZachThibeau> I noticed some of the features in the linux version needs some work still :P
19:36:08 <Gizmokid2005> time to makeinstall
19:36:09 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh*
19:36:21 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005: whacha compiling?
19:36:26 <Gizmokid2005> KVirc from svn
19:36:31 <ZachThibeau> ahh lol
19:36:35 <Gizmokid2005> took 45 minutes to make
19:36:54 <ZachThibeau> windows build or *nix
19:37:00 <Gizmokid2005> windows of course
19:37:06 <SteveLamerton> Only really backup ZachThibeau isnt it?
19:37:09 <Gizmokid2005> 57% already :)
19:37:30 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: yeah afaik and p7zip exe needs to be used too
19:37:56 <SteveLamerton> It is :P
19:38:06 <ZachThibeau> not the latest revision I pulled :/
19:38:12 <Gizmokid2005> built! :)
19:38:13 <Gizmokid2005> time to test.
19:38:26 <ZachThibeau> or if it was it doesn't handle the same parameters
19:38:45 <ZachThibeau> as it doesn't make an archive for me xD
19:39:02 <SteveLamerton> No, that is the bug, I think it is an encoding problem
19:39:24 <ZachThibeau> anyways Lapwing, we need to try and work something out :P
19:39:39 <SteveLamerton> We do?
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19:46:07 <Gizmokid2005> brb
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20:38:55 <daBomb69> wow... it's soo quiet in here...
20:40:56 <Gizmokid2005> yep
20:40:59 <Gizmokid2005> that's ok
20:41:11 <daBomb69> ...
20:41:19 <daBomb69> true :(
20:41:35 <Oni-Neoxes> >.>
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21:28:01 <Gizmokid2005> awww man..>I missed him.
21:28:07 <pa_3951> Hi...is there a way to remove something from the PortableApps menu without uninstalling it (i.e., moving it on disk)?
21:28:35 <daBomb69> pa_3951: as in, move it from one folder to a different one?
21:28:37 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3951: do you just want to hide the icon in the menu?
21:29:14 <pa_3951> Ah
21:29:24 <pa_3951> "hide icon", I guess that must be what it is called
21:29:34 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3951: yes, you can move applications to any folder you want, and if you just want to hide it in the menu, see here: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#hidingicons
21:29:42 <pa_3951> "Hiding Icons in the PortableApps.com Menu "
21:29:47 <Gizmokid2005> yup
21:29:49 <Gizmokid2005> :) see my link
21:29:55 <Gizmokid2005> that should answer your question sufficiently
21:30:12 <pa_3951> I see that now, I assumed that section meant to have a plain text list without icons.
21:30:37 <daBomb69> nope, thats hiding apps
21:30:40 <Gizmokid2005> nope :)
21:30:48 <pa_3951> thanks, much appreciated.
21:30:53 <Gizmokid2005> anytime pa_3951
21:31:02 <daBomb69> Have a nice day pa_3951 :)
21:31:17 <pa_3951> you too :-)
21:32:02 <daBomb69> thanks :)
21:32:09 <daBomb69> Anything else we can help you with?
21:34:24 <pa_3951> Well, not unless you can convince my boss that I need a new computer ;) I'm using the portable apps suite because my computer is slow as molasses, and running applications off of a USB stick on another machine is faster than running them off my hard drive.
21:34:56 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3951: hahaha, I know how that goes, I finally had a screw up that messed with our billing scripts on my machine and got a new one :)
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21:35:15 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawesome: ?
21:35:17 <Bensawesome> ¬_¬
21:35:29 <Bensawesome> stupid college blocks irc, windows remote desktop and vnc
21:35:37 <Gizmokid2005> hahahahahahaha
21:35:39 <daBomb69> that sucks...
21:35:45 <Gizmokid2005> how you know how tim feels don' you?
21:35:48 <Gizmokid2005> *don't
21:35:52 <Bensawesome> lol
21:36:03 <Bensawesome> somewhat
21:36:04 <pa_3951> haha...I'm scheduled to get my computer replaced (with someone else's old computer)...which will sadly be an upgrade.
21:36:18 <Bensawesome> im gonna add more ports when i get home
21:36:29 <Bensawesome> OMG
21:36:31 <Bensawesome> SSH
21:36:40 <Bensawesome> oh shoot sry didnt realize support was going on :S
21:36:55 <daBomb69> pa_3951: i'm getting a 4 yr. old comp :) *major upgrade for me :P*
21:37:25 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawesome: not really support atm.
21:37:30 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3951: thats how it goes at my work too.
21:38:27 <Bensawesome> oh ok good ^_^
21:39:51 <daBomb69> WOW! The :) smilies on Mibbit are RLY creppy!
21:40:00 <Gizmokid2005> lol
21:40:30 <daBomb69> it looks like some sorta of evilized yellow halloween mask or something
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21:41:36 <pa_3951> I think that's about what I'm getting, too, age-wise. I knew I was in trouble when it took me 25 minutes to start Eclipse on this computer, and then it started from my USB key in 20 seconds.
21:41:55 <daBomb69> wow...
21:44:05 <daBomb69> ya, that computer must be pretty bad
21:46:45 <pa_3951> it wouldn't be quite so bad if I could get rid of some of the junk on it. who installs 16 (!) versions of java on the same computer, and then doesn't let you get rid of any of them?
21:47:02 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3951: lazy IT people.
21:47:10 <daBomb69> 16 version! srsly?!
21:47:27 <Gizmokid2005> I got lucky at work, I was always local admin because of the software I needed to install/run, plus I knew all the IT guys and got approval from my manager for it.
21:47:29 <pa_3951> well, 16 that I can find...
21:47:42 <daBomb69> wow...
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21:48:06 <daBomb69> Gizmokid2005: in his situation, i'm not sure if the word would be lazy, or extremely-inept
21:48:22 <Gizmokid2005> lazy
21:48:35 <Gizmokid2005> because it would take away from the gaming time of the IT guys to uninstall old versions first.
21:48:46 <pa_3951> ha
21:48:49 <daBomb69> heh, true
21:48:59 <pa_3951> so _that's_ why they always have the door closed
21:49:03 <Gizmokid2005> yep
21:49:15 <Gizmokid2005> I know it is. I used to do an internship for class at the local Tech Center in HS.
21:49:23 <Gizmokid2005> UT - GOTY was a predominant game there.
21:50:06 <pa_3951> i wonder what works on SunOS...
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21:55:09 <MaienM> UT - GOTY is great :D
21:55:13 <MaienM> classic, but fun\
21:55:15 <Gizmokid2005> I know :)
21:55:16 <Gizmokid2005> I have it
21:55:18 <MaienM> and hello KevinPorter ;)
21:55:21 <Gizmokid2005> as well as the anthology
21:55:31 <KevinPorter> Hello MaienM. :)
21:58:53 <ZachThibeau> howdy KevinPorter
21:59:07 <KevinPorter> Greets. :)
21:59:26 <ZachThibeau> working on my notepad2/Notepad++ clone :P
21:59:46 <ZachThibeau> default look is notepad2 but will have an option to do tabs like notepad++ :D
22:00:01 <ZachThibeau> and I'm doing this for the fun of it :D
22:00:15 * ZachThibeau is learning much c++ from working on this project :D
22:00:35 <jnw222> good but why?
22:00:51 <daBomb69> jnw222: why not?
22:02:08 <ZachThibeau> basically I like c++ but never really got into it much until now, and a good way to get started is by making a text editor from scratch as a trial and error project :)
22:03:38 <pa_3951> 1000 points if you can top vim ;)
22:03:48 <Gizmokid2005> LOL
22:03:54 <ZachThibeau> lol well I never really used vim nor cared for it :P
22:04:00 <pa_3951> *gasp*
22:04:19 <ZachThibeau> but my app is cross platformable :D
22:04:27 <ZachThibeau> will work on windows, mac, and linux :)
22:04:38 <daBomb69> 1 000 000 points if it can go fullscreen and look like a text-based OS
22:05:04 <ZachThibeau> lol actually there are some text editors that can do that :P
22:05:13 <daBomb69> i know! :P
22:05:21 <ZachThibeau> so I'll give it a try :P
22:05:26 <daBomb69> woo! :D
22:05:46 <jnw222> woot a fullscreen text editor
22:06:05 <daBomb69> ya, you can't beat full-screen text editing!
22:06:20 <ZachThibeau> well you can :P it's called chuck norris
22:06:22 <ZachThibeau> :P
22:06:22 <jnw222> and multi-tabbed
22:06:24 <pa_3951> I'll give you 1 000 000 points too if it _is_ a text-based OS! ;)
22:06:29 <jnw222> :(
22:06:43 <jnw222> just do a minimal debian os
22:06:45 <daBomb69> ZachThibeau: call it Chuck++
22:06:54 <jnw222> C+uck+Norris
22:07:15 <daBomb69> jnw222: that would sound like cplusuckplusnorris
22:07:40 <daBomb69> call it Chuck#s (#=pound)
22:07:52 <pa_3951> Chuck++ would probably roundhouse kick you in the face before you got your points :(
22:08:00 <jnw222> no that is net-dependant?
22:08:18 <jnw222> i bet the c in C++ means ChuckNorris
22:08:19 <daBomb69> jnw222: # in .NET is sharp, we're going w/ # as in POUND
22:08:26 <jnw222> oh
22:08:26 <ZachThibeau> xD
22:08:30 <daBomb69> pa_3951: ya, but u couldn't beat it
22:08:39 <ZachThibeau> how about round house kick OS xD
22:08:43 <daBomb69> woot!
22:08:59 <ZachThibeau> written in Chuck++ and Norris#
22:09:03 <daBomb69> ZachThibeau: make it's BSODs say 'You've been round house kicked! PWN!'
22:09:07 <ZachThibeau> xD
22:09:10 <jnw222> TOTAL PWN
22:09:10 <daBomb69> lol
22:09:14 <ZachThibeau> nah I'm not that good xD
22:10:06 <MaienM> Gizmokid2005: did gizmobot die? :(
22:10:07 <Gizmokid2005> 48 minutes to compile kvirc from source.
22:10:09 <Gizmokid2005> ...wtf
22:10:12 <Gizmokid2005> no...
22:10:17 <Gizmokid2005> yes...
22:10:18 <daBomb69> where'd it go?
22:10:19 <Gizmokid2005> grwar
22:10:28 <daBomb69> :'(
22:10:33 <daBomb69> RIP gizmobot
22:10:34 <jnw222> 48min beats my time 58min
22:10:51 <Gizmokid2005> jnw222: you compile from soruce too?
22:10:57 <jnw222> yep
22:11:02 <Gizmokid2005> *nix?
22:11:11 <jnw222> do almost everything from source
22:11:15 <jnw222> windows and linux
22:11:22 <ZachThibeau> I compile my own linux kernel :P
22:11:29 <jnw222> me to
22:11:33 <Gizmokid2005> jnw222: yeah, but I mean kvirc
22:11:34 <ZachThibeau> I get tired of waiting for ubuntu to update their kernel xD
22:11:36 <jnw222> hate stock kernels. slow
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22:12:02 <jnw222> i once did kvirc svn about a month ago
22:12:12 <Gizmokid2005> jnw222: yeah, I'm compiling for windows
22:12:15 <Gizmokid2005> from source
22:12:17 <Gizmokid2005> and that was in a VM :)
22:12:30 <jnw222> that is what i did though not in a vm
22:12:46 <Gizmokid2005> haha, I can only imagine what would happen if I didn't do it in avm.
22:12:49 <Gizmokid2005> *a vm.
22:12:52 <Gizmokid2005> quad-core power ftw
22:13:11 <Gizmokid2005> ctrlaltca, the windows builder from the dev team says it takes him over 1.5 hours to compile
22:13:15 <jnw222> dual-core P4 2.8ghz overclocked to 2.92ghz
22:13:46 <Gizmokid2005> haha, AMD phenom II X4 920 @ 2.8Ghz default.
22:13:54 <jnw222> wah
22:14:01 <Gizmokid2005> that's an upgrade from my opteron 165 oc'd to 2.1ghz
22:14:05 <Gizmokid2005> which was dual core
22:14:31 <jnw222> or i want intel corei7 extreme 3.3ghz overclocked to 3.8 ghz quad core power
22:14:39 <jnw222> that would be cool
22:14:46 <MaienM> and insanely expensive
22:14:53 <jnw222> yep
22:15:08 <jnw222> like 1000 USD just for the processor
22:15:09 <Gizmokid2005> I don't. IMO intel is just not as fast as amd. Some people swear by it, and I don't mean for anyone to start the argument. A lot of thought went into my AMD build.
22:15:16 <Gizmokid2005> I'm very happy with my AMD.
22:15:37 <MaienM> unless you have spare 1000$ lieing around that you don't use anyway :P
22:15:39 * ZachThibeau loves amd but is stuck with a crappy intel laptop with a crappy intel gfx card :(
22:15:43 <Gizmokid2005> that's all I'll ever build, I use ATI gpus too.
22:15:54 <Gizmokid2005> MaienM: no, at that point I'd just upgrde my AMD again :)
22:16:35 <ZachThibeau> ohh well an intel laptop is better than no laptop :)
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22:19:33 <ZachThibeau> night MaienM|Sleep
22:21:49 <ZachThibeau> :P my editor is coming along :) I got the basics for the text editing done so that it's usable, however it's time to work on the toolbar and then making it work with tabs :)
22:22:03 <daBomb69> yay :)
22:23:26 <pa_3951> a historic moment...the birth of chuck++
22:23:39 <daBomb69> lol
22:23:52 <ZachThibeau> well it's just plain c++ with the wxwidgets toolkit :P
22:24:27 <daBomb69> ChuckWidgets++
22:24:27 <daBomb69> !
22:24:32 <jnw222> !
22:24:38 <ZachThibeau> ok you killed that one
22:24:44 <ZachThibeau> majorly :P
22:24:45 <daBomb69> :P
22:24:56 <jnw222> major
22:25:02 <daBomb69> the icon can be a fist!
22:25:05 <daBomb69> and a cookie!
22:25:08 <ZachThibeau> lol xD
22:25:11 <pa_3951> well, even the great chuck himself had humble beginnings
22:25:21 <ZachThibeau> the icon set I'm using is tango :P
22:25:22 <pa_3951> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Norris#Early_life: He was nonathletic, shy, and scholastically mediocre.
22:25:32 <pa_3951> sounds like C++.
22:25:33 <daBomb69> pa_3951: chuck norris has no begining... he's been here forever
22:25:47 <Gizmokid2005> alright, not a lot of devs in here, but maybe one of you has an idea....does FFP use the local pc's temp folder?
22:25:53 <Gizmokid2005> or does it set its' own in the launcher?
22:26:39 <ZachThibeau> hmm I'm not sure, afaik it tries to use the data folder and when it can't write there then tries the local pc's temp drive
22:27:21 <pa_3951> time to head out for me. good luck with chuck, and thanks for the help.
22:27:33 <ZachThibeau> time for me to reboot into ubuntu and compile my editor there :)
22:27:37 <Gizmokid2005> see ya pa_3951
22:27:38 <ZachThibeau> later pa_3951
22:27:40 <daBomb69> gbye pa_3951 :)
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22:28:10 * daBomb69 <3 FF
22:28:13 <daBomb69> "Well, this is embarrassing."
22:30:30 <Gizmokid2005> the only thing that looks like it pertains are lines 358-371 in the current launcher, but it doesn't really make sense...
22:30:50 <Gizmokid2005> because that looks like it's using app data of some sort and creating a temp folder there.
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22:32:40 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D
22:32:51 <ZachThibeau> back :)\
22:33:05 <jnw222> welcome back?
22:33:19 <ZachThibeau> and on linux :P
22:33:33 <daBomb69> anyone know an app that allows you to download files from a link to SF w/o having to go to the annoying 'Your download is starting' page?
22:33:35 <ZachThibeau> testing my source against wxGTK for cross platformability
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23:07:32 <ZachThibeau> here is what I got done so far with my text editor :) http://i29.tinypic.com/iw3apw.jpg
23:07:43 <ZachThibeau> KevinPorter: it has tango icons ;)
23:08:07 <jnw222> simple
23:08:09 <jnw222> i like
23:08:27 <ZachThibeau> and thats the linux port of it :P
23:08:44 <ZachThibeau> advance features will come as soon as I finish basic editor controls :)
23:09:15 <ZachThibeau> and notepad3 isn't the final name just a codename ;)
23:09:24 <ZachThibeau> will accept submissions for a better name though :P
23:09:39 * daBomb69 already submitted his idea!
23:09:44 <daBomb69> :P
23:09:56 <ZachThibeau> it's actually a good one daBomb69 I'll add it to a list on my forum ;)
23:10:09 <daBomb69> yay :D
23:10:42 <jnw222> Chucknorispad+
23:11:39 <ZachThibeau> something not related to chuck norris please xD
23:11:49 <daBomb69> lol
23:12:10 * daBomb69 wonders what people will say when they read the logs from the first chuckathon
23:13:46 <ZachThibeau> http://zachthibeau.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7
23:18:15 <jnw222> would you mind uploading the current source code for nothepad3
23:19:58 <ZachThibeau> once I get the basics finished then yes :)
23:20:14 <ZachThibeau> I want at least basic features implimented before I share the source :P
23:20:31 <daBomb69> ZachThibeau: what's the4 licensing going to be?
23:20:52 <ZachThibeau> probably the usual gpl :P
23:21:05 <daBomb69> u shld go WTFL :P
23:21:23 <jnw222> gplv3
23:21:26 <jnw222> or lgpl
23:21:30 <ZachThibeau> no ty :P I still want my copyright intact
23:21:37 <daBomb69> beerware!
23:21:39 <ZachThibeau> and gplv3 is probably what I'll use
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23:36:00 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
23:36:00 <ZachThibeau> :(
23:36:05 <ZachThibeau> howdy Whibo :D
23:36:16 <daBomb69> Hey Whibo
23:36:40 <Whibo> hi everyone
23:37:06 <ZachThibeau> how's the weather over in Quebec
23:37:15 <Whibo> so-so
23:37:17 <Whibo> :P
23:37:23 <ZachThibeau> twas supposed to rain today in NB but nothing yet
23:37:34 <Whibo> no rain here too
23:37:42 <Whibo> no sun either
23:38:13 <ZachThibeau> got hardly any cloud here :/
23:38:23 <ZachThibeau> I was expecting a thunder shower :(
23:38:28 * ZachThibeau wanted a thunder shower
23:38:34 <ZachThibeau> haven't heard one in a long time
23:38:38 * jnw222 wants a flood
23:39:10 * ZachThibeau wants to code some moar :D
23:39:19 <Whibo> lol
23:39:49 <ZachThibeau> eventually I'll need to talk to Steve how he got translations done in WxWidgets since my app will need some translations when I am done :)
23:39:59 <Whibo> we had the 4th biggest natural disaster on earth in my town 10 years ago
23:40:09 <Whibo> a flood
23:40:13 <ZachThibeau> yeah I recall that actually
23:40:22 <ZachThibeau> twas on CTV
23:40:31 <Whibo> in my town so bad lucky
23:40:34 <Whibo> :P
23:41:22 <ZachThibeau> lol
23:45:26 <Whibo> you need translations :P
23:45:35 <Whibo> .def Whibo
23:45:35 <GizmoBot> Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com
23:45:39 <ZachThibeau> eventually
23:45:41 <ZachThibeau> :P
23:45:52 <ZachThibeau> atm I don't know where to start xD
23:46:57 <Whibo> :)
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