IRC Log from 2009-09-06
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00:54:08 <gluxon> TimClark: Don't worry... I'm removing the link from the web service... it's going to be something else (non-dangerous) eventually.
00:54:33 <gluxon> .o fun
00:54:34 <GizmoBot> gluxon: Sorry, fun is blacklisted
00:54:37 <gluxon> ...
00:54:44 <gluxon> Which means it should be unblacklisted...
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01:01:32 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
01:01:32 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
01:01:59 <TimClark> wow, that was not a fun dis/reconnect :( sorry about that
01:02:39 <Chazz> that's probally the worse part of the webcrap, the autodisconnects :(
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01:16:31 <TimClark> gluxon: do you think it works that way ?
01:16:38 <gluxon> ?
01:16:55 <TimClark> actions have consequences
01:17:14 <TimClark> first I can't unblacklist it
01:17:46 <TimClark> second, why should it be unblacklisted, it serves no purpose
01:18:33 <TimClark> third, the link is still in the logs, so even if i could unblacklist the .o you would need to take the page down
01:19:11 <Chazz> TimClark, maybe you should talk with Patrick to have the link removed too?
01:19:37 <TimClark> maybe you should take down the page rather than make me hunt down patrick
01:19:52 <gluxon> Maybe I should just have a warning page right before it activates the script?
01:20:16 <Chazz> gluxon, you havent been kicked off your webhost yet?
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01:22:42 <gluxon> Chazz: ... why would I?
01:22:54 <gluxon> be?
01:22:58 <Chazz> gluxon, because that script uses lots of server resorces
01:23:09 <ZachThibeau> sorry about the quick name change TimClark one of the admins over at #shellium needed to do something and wanted me to change my nick temporarily
01:23:24 <gluxon> ... big deal?
01:23:51 <gluxon> Yes... ZachThibeau, you should be ashamed of yourself.
01:24:02 <Chazz> gluxon, all webhosts have a limited amound of resorses per customer
01:24:17 <ZachThibeau> gluxon: and why should I?
01:24:28 <gluxon> Bad! No changing your name :D
01:24:42 * Chazz drags this into -to
01:24:44 <Chazz> * -ot
01:24:57 <gluxon> Chazz: I'm pretty sure they just take down your site for the rest of the month.
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02:30:45 <TimClark> luv that MaienM :)
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02:47:52 <rbrt13> hello
02:48:30 <Chazz> hello rbrt13
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02:55:17 <TimClark> wow
02:55:33 <Chazz> wow?
02:55:40 <TimClark> guys, this is a perfect example of how you should not behave http://portableapps.com/node/20641#comment-127177\
02:56:24 <TimClark> he's been here 6 weeks and he thinks HE's someone who should be listened to
02:56:43 <Chazz> O_O
02:57:23 <TimClark> sorry, it should be this http://portableapps.com/node/20641#comment-127177 don't know where that \ came from
02:57:41 <Chazz> wow... that's... rude^∞
02:58:24 <TimClark> yes, there has been way too much attitude comming from new members lately
02:58:34 <Chazz> ya :(
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03:00:24 <TimClark> and opensource does not mean it's better
03:00:39 <rbrt13> it means i like it more
03:00:46 <rbrt13> but not that it's better
03:01:06 <Chazz> OSS is like a religion :/
03:01:31 <TimClark> that is the problem, most religions are intolerant
03:01:42 <Chazz> exactly :(
03:01:45 <ZachThibeau> I'm christian and I'm tolerant
03:01:47 <ZachThibeau> :P
03:01:50 <rbrt13> i prefer to stay open minded
03:01:52 <ZachThibeau> besides the point though
03:01:59 <TimClark> gawd forbid i mention the value of U3 in this channel
03:01:59 <Chazz> ZachThibeau, you're just weird like that :P
03:02:15 <Chazz> TimClark, how dare you! :o (jk)
03:02:31 <TimClark> you get my point
03:02:44 <Chazz> ya :(
03:02:55 <TimClark> anyway time to go, night all
03:02:56 <ZachThibeau> I don't mind U3 just not my cup of coffee thats all
03:02:58 <ZachThibeau> night TimClark
03:03:09 <SergentSiler> bye TimClark
03:03:15 <Chazz> night TimClark
03:03:19 <rbrt13> good night TimClark
03:03:35 <rbrt13> hopefully better then mine
03:03:37 <TimClark> SergentSiler: hello :D
03:03:43 <SergentSiler> hi :D
03:03:44 <TimClark> and goodbye :P
03:03:48 <SergentSiler> bai D:
03:03:55 <SergentSiler> lol
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03:04:11 <TimClark> o/
03:04:21 <SergentSiler> \o
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03:04:36 <rbrt13> or not
03:05:06 <SergentSiler> >_>?
03:05:24 <rbrt13> im lazy and don't feel like doing it right now
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04:01:31 <Chazz> .t gmt
04:01:31 <GizmoBot> Sun, 06 Sep 2009 04:01:31 GMT
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04:51:42 <Chazz> hi ChrisMorgan
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05:40:09 <pa_0891> suggestion for PortableApps Platform software...
05:41:40 <pa_0891> add I.C.E. app to the platform in case oyou lose thumbdrive...
05:42:41 *** pa_0891 is now known as Enzechen357
05:42:50 <Enzechen357> Hello out there...
05:43:58 <ChrisMorgan> Enzechen357: just create a file yourself in the root of the drive; a person finding a USB disk is unlikely to want to open programs on it for security.
05:44:19 <Enzechen357> suggest adding I.C.E. in case of emergancy inf to the PortableApps Platform for lost thumbdrive...
05:44:48 <Enzechen357> ok, done that with the autorun.inf file...
05:45:06 <ChrisMorgan> How did you do it, just changing the name?
05:45:54 <Enzechen357> example: as follow: shell\Lost\command=notepad ..\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data\Lost.txt <br> shell\Lost= &Lost...
05:46:18 <ChrisMorgan> People are unlikely to ever see that, let alone run it (security)
05:46:53 <Enzechen357> hoping that you would incorp I.C.E. in next upgrade...
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05:47:15 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think it will happen any time soon, and definitely not under any name like that.
05:47:28 <ChrisMorgan> It'd just be "if lost" or similar
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05:47:50 <Enzechen357> I.C.E. stands for in case of emergancy...
05:48:29 <ChrisMorgan> I know. It was a stupid spam relay which went around.
05:49:13 <ChrisMorgan> Now I'm off
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05:50:18 <Enzechen357> ty for time, signing off...
05:50:53 <pa_8670> help!
05:51:14 <Chazz> pa_8670, How can wer help you
05:51:15 <Chazz> ?
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05:51:33 <pa_8670> hi Chazz
05:51:44 <Chazz> how can we help you today?
05:51:57 <pa_8670> WinMerge Portable seems not to work
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05:52:37 <Chazz> what part of it doesnt work?
05:53:15 <varungarg455> sir i want proper tutorials for making portable applications as i have taken a college project about this
05:53:29 <varungarg455> can you help me out
05:53:54 <pa_8670> installer just crashes on launch, Chazz
05:54:18 <Chazz> pa_8670, have you tried reinstalling?
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05:54:25 <Chazz> varungarg455, one sec, i'll get you a linlk
05:54:33 <Chazz> erm, guess nit :/
05:54:57 <pa_8670> not a valid win32 application
05:55:09 <Chazz> huh
05:55:12 <Chazz> odd :/
05:55:16 <pa_8670> yeah, its the installer that's not working in the 1st place
05:55:17 <pa_8670> neither does 7zip
05:55:48 <pa_8670> the installer executables are simply broken/corrupt
05:56:03 <Chazz> weird :/
05:59:58 <Chazz> they're working normal for me
06:00:29 <Chazz> pa_8670, perhaps the download was corrupted, try redownloading
06:01:23 <pa_8670> Chazz: i have
06:01:35 <Chazz> and, it still doens't work?\
06:02:24 <pa_8670> nope, doesn';t work
06:02:30 <Chazz> could you compare the md5 hash of the downloads with the one on the website?
06:03:39 <pa_8670> sorry, i think i may have deleted the files
06:03:44 <pa_8670> i could redownload them, i suppose
06:04:14 <Chazz> ya, try redownloading, if it still doesnt work, compare md5 hashes
06:04:24 <pa_8670> ok, thanks Chazz
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07:53:31 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 :D
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10:16:27 <Horusofoz> Hey guys
10:18:43 <Horusofoz> I'm starting a very basic (Like ABC basic) programming course next term which I know will utilise Visual Basic. Wondering if anyone knows of an open source and preferably (Though not essentially) alternative.
10:26:02 <Horusofoz> Does anyone have any suggestions?
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11:08:02 <Horusofoz> Hey ChrisMorgan. Hopefully you can help with the following request. I'm starting a very basic (Like ABC basic) programming course next term which I know will utilise Visual Basic. Wondering if anyone knows of an open source and preferably (Though not essentially) alternative.
11:08:39 <ChrisMorgan> Visual Basic-like syntax, functionality, or what?
11:09:38 <Horusofoz> Not sure. I've never done any coding its just I remember reading how starting with VB can make it harder for newb to migrate to alternatives
11:10:33 <ChrisMorgan> I don't know what sort of a course it is... it'll depend a lot on what sort of things they're doing in it (and how tied you are inside it to a given language)
11:13:26 <ChrisMorgan> I think I would tend to recommend a few options; Python (wxPython for UI), C++ (wxWidgets for UI) and now also PHP (PHP-GTK for UI) :D
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11:14:57 <Horusofoz> Not sure of language. I guess I need to do the course a lil bit to find out. Like I said its only real basic but I'm hoping to get enough from it to eventually be able to port apps
11:15:53 <ChrisMorgan> We're moving towards needing less and less skill to make an application portable... though I still wonder if this is best... it satisfies users, but may water down the quality of user input to the project.
11:16:03 <ChrisMorgan> And currently the NSIS stuff we have is pretty simple.
11:16:37 <Horusofoz> yes... simple.... Tell that to the 1000's of users who wish they knew how to do it :p
11:17:37 <Horusofoz> Or main app devs who then make mistakes developing PAF versions
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11:34:33 <Horusofoz> ChrisMorgan: Good signs with Gantt Project Portable :)
11:34:45 <ChrisMorgan> Good :-)
11:34:56 <ChrisMorgan> No space between G and P though :P
11:35:14 <Horusofoz> =-O
11:36:19 <Horusofoz> I'm guessing it must be good to find out a base developer is interested in your PA development of their work
11:37:26 <ChrisMorgan> Generally. Though it works the other way sometimes. Code::Blocks has been damaged by interest in Code::Blocks Portable.
11:38:08 <Horusofoz> Can you elaborate?
11:38:43 <ChrisMorgan> They went and made it do weird stuff with APPDATA rather than just letting me move it back and forth...
11:39:06 <ChrisMorgan> I think I'm going to write up a PortableApps.com Application Improvement Standard ;-)
11:39:16 <Horusofoz> Good luck :)
11:39:59 <ChrisMorgan> I'll do it the way FileZilla and Inkscape have done it: FILEZILLA_PORTABLE_PROFILE_DIRECTORY and INKSCAPE_PORTABLE_PROFILE_DIRECTORY environment variables are searched for as the first location.
11:40:39 <ChrisMorgan> FileZilla I've got no idea when it went in, Inkscape I patched it (a one liner, it normally will be on a decent project, or two or three lines for some language types).
11:45:08 <ChrisMorgan> Still no comments on The Tower of Babel in the Land of PortableApps.com at http://portableapps.com/node/20644 :-(
11:45:56 <Horusofoz> Saw that but don't feel qualified to comment
11:46:12 <Horusofoz> Nice choice of title for the content however :)
11:46:52 <ChrisMorgan> Hey, you're a user (may I say an avid user?) You're entitled to say what you'd like, even if it's something like the ability to still run it without the PortableApps.com Platform...
11:47:30 <ChrisMorgan> (You may note that that would be a possible side-effect of switching to PHP launchers, though we could also have a simple executable which would just find the PortableApps.com Runtime and launch the launcher)
11:50:59 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: even simpler would be "PortableApps.com Menu ∈ Delphi" :D
11:51:17 <Horusofoz> Would be punching above my weight to try and give an opinion on this. However I do like the idea of finding an alternative to Delphi and Pascal. Especially with the knowledge that the menu can't be compiled with the latest version.
11:51:42 <ChrisMorgan> Meaning that unless you have a copy of Delphi 2006, you're completely stuck.
11:52:27 <ChrisMorgan> Sorta goes even further against the OSS idea, on top of using commercial software, using unavailable software... but it works, and it keeps our releases coming out, so it's not that bad :P
11:52:53 <Horusofoz> To me that means finding an alternative language is imperative.
11:53:10 <ChrisMorgan> We've found many... it's just a matter of deciding what.
11:53:20 <Horusofoz> Don't know much in the area but would it be easier to use Lazarus or does this create more overhead?
11:53:34 <MaienM> I personally vote for python or C++ over PHP
11:53:44 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: then comment!
11:53:57 <ChrisMorgan> I vote against Python. Too big.
11:54:02 <MaienM> even tho thats partly because I don't really consider PHP a desktop app language, even tho it can be used as one
11:54:10 <MaienM> I will, later today
11:54:14 <MaienM> C++ would be nice imho
11:54:38 <MaienM> python is quite a nice language but might be a issue with size
11:54:43 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: too hard to get it working... we're better to divorce ourselves completely from it as well as you'd then be staying Windows only.
11:54:53 <ChrisMorgan> PHP is a nicer language... ;-)
11:55:26 <MaienM> well, I know python, C++ and PHP so as long as one of those is chosen its fine with me, kinda :P
11:55:31 <ChrisMorgan> (Did you guys get ∈ as the set membership mathematical symbol?)
11:55:49 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: you should take a look at Manta code. It's refreshing :-)
11:55:52 <ChrisMorgan> ;-)
11:56:02 <MaienM> Manta?
11:56:16 <ChrisMorgan> My PHP-GTK project I speak of extensively.
11:56:23 <MaienM> ah
11:56:25 <ChrisMorgan> http://code.google.com/p/manta-server
11:56:59 <MaienM> I'm working on a pygtk project with Gizmokid2005|AFK atm
11:57:04 <MaienM> a phenny gui ;)
11:57:21 <ChrisMorgan> I'm actually in the process of separating a lot of the back-end code (e.g. ability to restart, useful UI widgets - i.e. extending Gtk classes) into a separate project so it can be used by other than Manta.
11:57:36 <ChrisMorgan> Why would Phenny need a GUI?
11:58:02 <MaienM> the config part can be complicated, especially the white/blacklist part
11:58:13 <MaienM> that along with config stuff my modules add
11:58:22 <MaienM> and the fact that I was bored
11:58:34 <ChrisMorgan> You should learn PHP-GTK and help me :D
11:58:40 <ChrisMorgan> Or better still...
11:58:46 <MaienM> hmm, maybe later ;)
11:58:46 <ChrisMorgan> You know what is coming... ;-)
11:58:48 <MaienM> yes, yes I will :P
11:58:57 <ChrisMorgan> Any more progress?
11:58:58 <MaienM> its around 70% atm
11:59:20 <ChrisMorgan> We may be having a 0.4.6 release soon. A few more new features, things fixed.
11:59:27 <ChrisMorgan> And hopefully Dutch too :-)
11:59:33 <MaienM> I'll try to get it done in time then ;)
12:00:07 <ChrisMorgan> "Oh, our scheduled release date was tomorrow morning, 11 hours time..." ;-)
12:00:29 <MaienM> suuuuure... ;)
12:01:28 <ChrisMorgan> So my project Manta is having another project started for it, which it will use extensively... CMPGL (Chris Morgan's PHP-GTK Library) for want of a better name...
12:02:45 <ChrisMorgan> You remember whoever it was who had that comment in their signature some time back about posts dripping with sarcasm? Ask for a towel?
12:03:01 <MaienM> nope
12:03:04 <ChrisMorgan> I'm feeling that way about jamcomm... he's at it again... *sigh*
12:03:22 <ChrisMorgan> "My posts are usually dripping with sarcasm. If you ask nicely, I'll give you a towel."
12:03:39 <MaienM> that guy who complained about the missing ability to pause the java portable download process?
12:04:01 <ChrisMorgan> No, that's another of them... listless.
12:04:22 <MaienM> *sigh*
12:04:25 <ChrisMorgan> Currently we've got only about two troublemakers. truthseeker hasn't been causing trouble much for quite a long time.
12:04:54 <MaienM> btw, wanna hear something funny?
12:05:19 <MaienM> the mana world portable gets downloaded ~50% more then the mana world itself :P
12:05:20 <ChrisMorgan> Would someone like to check OpenSonic and Smart Pacman Portable? I sem to get a vague impression that they're just apps with Travis's SecretMaryoChronicles launcher (and thus not portable)
12:06:26 <ChrisMorgan> At initial release, BPBible Portable got many thousands of downloads in the time BPBible proper got under 100.
12:07:05 <ChrisMorgan> Now BPBible Portable's figures are much lower, and BPBible's are much higher (than initially, it has gained traction through the help of PortableApps.com :D)
12:07:30 <Horusofoz> I guess that lends to the argument that PA can be used as a conduit for promoting applications
12:07:40 <MaienM> seeing how popular PA.c is, that is to be expected
12:07:40 <ChrisMorgan> Just don't tell anyone :P
12:07:43 <Horusofoz> Spoke to soon :-[
12:07:45 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah.
12:08:28 <ChrisMorgan> I'm hoping that I'll be able to use PortableApps.com to make Manta the industry standard, and in all seriousness, I hope and plan make XAMPP completely obsolete.
12:08:36 <ChrisMorgan> Ain't that friendly of me :D
12:08:56 <Horusofoz> Well your certainly humble in your ambitions :p
12:08:57 <MaienM> if Manta IS actually better then XAMPP, thats fine with me :P
12:09:10 <ChrisMorgan> Horusofoz: ain't I :D
12:09:53 <Horusofoz> Good luck. Iif you can do it would be mad:)
12:10:34 <ChrisMorgan> MaienM: I'm planning on it being better than XAMPP functionally (though not necessarily having the same packages) within half a year or two, and having a full XAMPP-imitation mode (except with a better control panel :D, i.e. just download all the packages XAMPP has) within a year or two.
12:10:59 <MaienM> well, good luck
12:11:21 <MaienM> you may very well need it :P
12:12:27 <Horusofoz> Your brothers/father going to help you?
12:12:29 <ChrisMorgan> I know of only two similar attempts; one is plumb ugly (i.e. it's using the Windows 3.1 GUI standards - seriously) and mostly disfunctional, and the other is just mostly disfunctional. And neither is really open source.
12:12:42 <ChrisMorgan> No. They're not web guys.
12:13:03 <MaienM> I might help you ChrisMorgan, it sounds interesting :)
12:13:34 <ChrisMorgan> It'd probably be good if you didn't help with the actual code for a while, until I've got it more stabilised, just so we don't get conflicting edits etc.
12:13:35 <MaienM> I won't make any promises yet tho, I first have to see if I have enough time besides school and stuff
12:13:43 <ChrisMorgan> Feel free to start by looking at it :-)
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12:16:16 <ChrisMorgan> Bye, I'm off for the night.
12:23:59 <Horusofoz> ciao
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15:24:46 <GizmoBot> MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable, and he has a website at http://mmfail.co.cc/
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15:32:29 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 :D
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16:00:18 <SergentSiler> i lold
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17:11:19 <pa_7527> Hi, I've been trying todownload latest version of firefox from you applications page, and the latest version of zonealarm internet security suite scans it and says it is malicious
17:11:52 <pa_7527> I've tried downloading from 2 different mirrors
17:12:39 <ZachThibeau> thats a false positive
17:12:49 <ZachThibeau> we will not willingly give people viruses
17:13:25 <pa_7527> It opened it in a virtual envirnment and said something about it being able to open undetected
17:13:51 <Oni-Neoxes> http://portableapps.com/node/10544
17:13:55 <Oni-Neoxes> False positive
17:14:01 <pa_7527> OK, I know I hav'nt had any problems with you guys before
17:14:16 <ZachThibeau> usually if a virus scanner as detected a virus it will not allow you to execute it you would have to excempt the exe in question in order to run it
17:15:01 <pa_7527> OK
17:19:45 <pa_7527> Just for your info, I also downloaded thunderbird (latest virsion) & zone alarm found no issues with it, although it did do a second scan (opening in virtual environment)
17:20:45 <ZachThibeau> yeah that would be a false positive with your scanner
17:21:26 <pa_7527> Thanks,
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18:10:46 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: Zach!!!!! Did you ever find a good shell for phenny?
18:10:54 <Chazz> lol
18:11:09 <gluxon> what?
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18:17:58 <GizmoBot> TimClark says "freenode, it's Not as Free as it used to be, Free as in Freedom :( "
18:18:05 <gluxon> Hello TimClark.
18:18:16 <Oni-Neoxes> Hello TimClark
18:18:19 <TimClark> gluxon: did you take down you malicious page ?
18:18:19 * SergentSiler waves hello to TimClark
18:18:22 <Chazz> Hwllo TimClark
18:18:26 <gluxon> Um... not yet... :(
18:18:34 <TimClark> then don't talk to me gluxon
18:19:05 <TimClark> hello Oni-Neoxes , Hwllo Chazz , o/ SergentSiler
18:19:12 <SergentSiler> ^_^
18:19:21 <Chazz> lol
18:19:38 <gluxon> ...
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18:45:30 <TimClark> SrgSiler|ZNC: ZNC ?
18:45:56 <Chazz> TimClark, his commection crashed, so his ZNC is running, but he's not
18:46:01 <gluxon> TimClark: Okay... I've sort of removed it. --> http://gluxon3.co.cc/fun.php
18:46:03 <Chazz> *connection
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18:47:44 <Chazz> wb SergentSiler
18:47:49 <SergentSiler> ty
18:47:53 <SergentSiler> had to restart
18:48:03 <SergentSiler> turns out aero wasnt working because of my drivers :P
18:48:23 <TimClark> gluxon: are you an idiot, why did you post the link :O
18:48:24 <Chazz> oh :o
18:48:53 <gluxon> ...
18:49:17 <TimClark> you should have just not even mention it again
18:55:47 <Oni-Neoxes> well. He sort of removed it, That's all it matters.
18:56:38 <TimClark> At this point, while that page is live, he is a persona non grata to me, and if I see the link appear again, even in the logs, he will reget it, seriously.
18:56:45 <TimClark> now , lets drop it
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18:59:57 <Chazz> wb Gizmokid2005 :D
19:00:05 <Gizmokid2005> hello Chazz
19:00:39 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: TimClark is absolutely correct. and that warning goes for everybody.
19:00:54 <Gizmokid2005> as I said last night, the next person to use it is getting a 2 hour ban minimum w/o exception.
19:01:02 <TimClark> Never link to inappropriat content, ever
19:01:06 <TimClark> anybody
19:01:08 <gluxon> What if it's John? :P
19:01:18 <ZachThibeau> John wouldn't do such a thing
19:01:22 <ZachThibeau> and it's no joke
19:01:23 <TimClark> don't be an ass gluxon
19:01:25 <Gizmokid2005> gluxon: doesn't. matter. Like ZachThibeau said, he wouldn't do it.
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19:15:51 <TimClark> Hello pa_1960 , can we help you with anything today ?
19:16:16 <ChazzIsEating> hello pa_1960
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19:46:38 <TimClark> i loved john's reply to listless ... Java has value outside the web
19:46:44 <TimClark> duh
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20:03:43 <TimClark> anybody know about the new .theme format ?
20:04:07 <Chazz> new .theme?
20:06:14 <TimClark> guess not :(
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20:18:47 <ZachThibeau> I have heard a little bit of it but I'm not doing anything with it until the actual theming details are out
20:20:03 <TimClark> my main concern, for a reply, is that it must be a true ZIP , is that right ZachThibeau
20:20:27 <TimClark> not a RAR, or LZH, or 7z
20:20:37 <ZachThibeau> afaik it's yes a zip file
20:20:41 <TimClark> ty
20:21:42 <TimClark> some folks think of zip as just meaning compress w/o realizeing it is a spcific format
20:22:46 <ZachThibeau> yeah I know what you mean
20:23:11 <Chazz> ya :/
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21:35:55 <TimClark> contest is occuring in -ot at this moment , $100 prize, Gizmokid2005 is in the lead, join us :P
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23:21:27 <TimClark> As sending an american money order overseas and cashing it might be cumbersome MaienM has asked me to give the money to animal rescue
23:21:52 <TimClark> For the help of puppies and kitties
23:22:01 <TimClark> Way to go MaienM :D
23:29:10 <TimClark> http://portableapps.com/node/20670
23:29:15 <TimClark> .title
23:29:16 <GizmoBot> TimClark: Tim's Secret Icon revealed | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
23:29:25 <TimClark> :P
23:29:32 <SergentSiler> lol
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23:35:15 * Chazz high 5s MaienM
23:35:29 * MaienM low 7s Chazz
23:36:01 <Chazz> ^_^
23:36:46 * SergentSiler get-random -input 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 's Chazz
23:36:50 <SergentSiler> :3
23:36:55 <Chazz> O_o
23:37:13 <SergentSiler> powershell scripting :D
23:37:21 <Chazz> lol
23:37:38 <Chazz> cd /dev/null
23:37:47 <SergentSiler> D:
23:38:03 <Chazz> lol
23:38:21 * MaienM wonders if that would work.....
23:38:39 * Chazz will try whenever he's on linux again :P
23:38:40 <MaienM> "bash: cd: /dev/null: Not a directory"
23:38:45 <Chazz> D:
23:39:34 <Chazz> echo -n Hi!
23:39:53 <Chazz> SergentSiler, ur powershell is weak compared to teh powah of BASH
23:40:02 <SergentSiler> lol
23:40:11 <SergentSiler> Chazz, you havent seen powershell then :P
23:40:16 <SergentSiler> its pretty powerfull
23:40:21 <Chazz> still
23:40:26 <Chazz> Bash > *
23:41:05 <ptmb> SergentSiler, Chazz is right, you know? Powersheel is just some normal windows command line commands adapted to Linux terminology :d
23:41:08 <ptmb> :D
23:41:15 <ptmb> so that dir would be cd and so on
23:41:20 * Chazz also reminds SergentSiler he's talking to the guy that uses BASH on Windows
23:41:36 <SergentSiler> ptmb, you obviously have never used PS either :P
23:41:41 <SergentSiler> Chazz, i know
23:41:57 <Chazz> lol :P
23:41:58 <ptmb> also, bash is oss (I think :P ) so that makes it infinitelly superior, wheter it actually is or not :D
23:42:07 <SergentSiler> i lold
23:42:23 <Chazz> ptmb, bash is OSS
23:42:42 <ptmb> who knows if powershell is secretly sending your commands "home"? o_O
23:42:57 <Chazz> O_o
23:43:46 <Chazz> or worse...
23:44:00 <Chazz> Home is sending commands to IT
23:44:09 <ptmb> o_O
23:44:17 <ptmb> now that would be creepy
23:44:37 * Chazz can just imagine some evil MS techie forcing all powershells to open
23:44:45 <Chazz> format C: /F
23:44:51 <ptmb> xD
23:45:16 <Chazz> then, MS would force everyone to buy a new install disk xP
23:47:28 <ptmb> brb everybody
23:48:03 <Chazz> k
23:48:07 <MaienM> sudo make-me-an-cookie
23:48:13 <Chazz> lol
23:48:16 <TimClark> /BBS
23:48:25 <Chazz> sudo food-get cookie
23:48:57 <SergentSiler> sudo make me a sandwich
23:49:12 <MaienM> sudo steal --target=dark-side --object=cookie --amount=-1 --chocolate=yes
23:49:22 <SergentSiler> XD
23:49:28 <Chazz> lol