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00:30:26 <rbrt13> hello
00:30:53 <OliverK> howdy
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00:31:09 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: drive serial numbers are sometimes carefully set to the same value as another for pirating purposes.
00:31:23 <ChrisMorgan> But you're right about registration keys, that's why I suggested serial numbers
00:31:24 <OliverK|School> ChrisMorgan: bah
00:31:38 <OliverK|School> and when would he run into a computer like that?
00:31:50 <ChrisMorgan> It's actually pretty common with USB disks.
00:32:14 <OliverK|School> i'd like to know why he has to know if the computer is different then the last
00:32:24 <ChrisMorgan> Me too
00:32:30 <OliverK|School> he's checking the system drive as well, not the flash disk
00:32:35 <ChrisMorgan> Something to do with playlists and non-existing files
00:32:41 <OliverK|School> huh
00:32:59 <OliverK|School> last i knew the m3u was encoded funky-gibberish with no hope of ever being decoded
00:33:01 <ChrisMorgan> If commercial software is offered on a USB disk you can be pretty sure they'll have the same serial numbers and the software will only work on hardware with that serial number - it's the easiest way to do it.
00:33:10 <OliverK|School> true
00:33:27 <OliverK|School> i don't use winamp
00:33:30 <OliverK|School> i see no reason to
00:33:36 <ChrisMorgan> Nor do I, likewise.
00:33:38 <OliverK|School> wmp \ vlc
00:33:48 <OliverK|School> if i want a net stream, screamer
00:33:54 <OliverK|School> i use vlc for movies, actually
00:34:00 <ChrisMorgan> Me too
00:34:07 <ChrisMorgan> I don't use WMP or any streaming
00:34:10 <OliverK|School> you use screamer ?! :p
00:34:14 <OliverK|School> hah
00:34:17 <ChrisMorgan> But VLC is supposed to be able to cope with streaming?
00:34:20 <OliverK|School> yeah
00:34:22 <OliverK|School> it does it
00:34:30 <OliverK|School> but i stopped updating vlc
00:34:38 <OliverK|School> i've got 9.8 or some old version like that
00:34:45 <OliverK|School> works the best afaik
00:34:58 <ChrisMorgan> 0.98
00:35:03 <OliverK|School> screamer just has a really nice interface for streaming
00:35:12 * OliverK|School is probably dislexic
00:35:14 <ChrisMorgan> My dad's WaterSums software uses CPU ID, Windows registration key, hard disk serial number and volume number and then munges them all together in a Secret Formula
00:35:16 <OliverK|School> i'm can't tell
00:35:50 <OliverK|School> i use to say dchp all the time, it required some thought on my part to remember it was dhcp
00:36:08 <OliverK|School> ChrisMorgan: yeah, but that's different. It's not "portable"
00:36:16 <ChrisMorgan> I'll say it's not...
00:36:24 <OliverK|School> nor is it free :p
00:36:48 <ChrisMorgan> Due to .NET, Adobe SVG Viewer and the licence key mechanism
00:37:12 <ChrisMorgan> A new release is going up today and we might be switching to my new theme for it which is ready to roll...
00:37:23 <OliverK|School> ?
00:37:34 <ChrisMorgan> A new Drupal theme for the WaterSums website
00:37:39 <OliverK|School> ah
00:37:40 <ChrisMorgan> Designed in Inkscape :D
00:37:47 <OliverK|School> meh
00:37:51 * OliverK|School uses GIMP
00:37:54 <ChrisMorgan> :O
00:37:58 <ChrisMorgan> Try Inkscape.
00:38:03 <OliverK|School> nah
00:38:08 * OliverK|School is to stupid for it
00:38:18 <ChrisMorgan> If you give it a decent try, you'll never turn back to GIMP for anything remotely like web development
00:38:23 <ChrisMorgan> Or for just about anything.
00:38:29 * OliverK|School rarely does web dev
00:38:31 <OliverK|School> :p
00:38:34 <ChrisMorgan> Anything GIMP can do which Inkscape can also do, Inkscape can do better.
00:38:50 * OliverK|School will stick with GIMP
00:38:55 <OliverK|School> i know which end is up at least
00:39:43 <ChrisMorgan> When Inkscape 0.47 comes out (release is locked today, then binaries trickle in for a Friday release), try it (or the portable version)
00:39:52 <OliverK|School> i have it
00:39:56 <OliverK|School> i will stick with the gimp
00:40:14 <ChrisMorgan> nooooooo......
00:40:15 <ChrisMorgan> :P
00:41:03 <OliverK|School> nothing against you
00:41:20 <OliverK|School> i just don't like switching software when i've begun to figure things out in another
00:41:22 <ChrisMorgan> Of course not... against the Inkscape team ;-)
00:41:26 <OliverK|School> no
00:41:28 <OliverK|School> no
00:41:30 <ChrisMorgan> :P
00:41:30 <OliverK|School> NO
00:41:45 * OliverK|School hurls something heavy and hard at chris
00:41:48 <ChrisMorgan> Figure it out in Inkscape and you'll have figured out a better, faster solution in less time
00:41:49 <ChrisMorgan> ow
00:41:54 <OliverK|School> nope
00:41:59 <OliverK|School> i'm sticking with the gimp
00:42:09 <OliverK|School> quit bothering me to switch
00:42:18 <OliverK|School> i'll do that when i need the capabilities of inkscape
00:42:20 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, OK
00:42:24 <OliverK|School> more then scaling vector images
00:42:34 <ChrisMorgan> You do... you just don't realise it :-)
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01:56:27 <rbrt13> hello
01:56:45 <OliverK|School> yup
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02:02:55 <Xenia> drat
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02:09:41 <Chazz> OliverK|School, having fun? :P
02:10:01 <OliverK|School> Chazz: hell no :D
02:10:07 <Chazz> lol
02:10:19 <OliverK|School> gorsh, building a network, that's fun
02:10:23 <OliverK|School> this, this is
02:10:26 <OliverK|School> SPARTA!
02:10:29 <OliverK|School> oh, wait, no
02:10:29 <Chazz> lol
02:10:30 <OliverK|School> :D
02:10:44 <rbrt13> my sister is a spartan
02:11:03 <xangua> i am 300
02:11:18 <rbrt13> 300 what?
02:11:31 <Chazz> THIS IS MADNESS!
02:12:16 <xangua> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7qKD-Ph7ds well i am nt, but i am mexican :)
02:12:34 <rbrt13> i cannot watch that
02:13:31
02:13:39 <rbrt13> dial up
02:14:52 <ZachThibeau> -ot with this guys
02:15:35 <xangua> sorry
02:15:45
02:15:51 <OliverK|School> yeah
02:15:57 <xangua> ooh ok
02:16:15 <xangua> !ot
02:16:18 <ZachThibeau> #portableapps-ot is the channel
02:16:42 <xangua> thanks ZachThibeau-bot chan
02:16:49 <ZachThibeau> I'm not a bot >_>
02:16:53 <ZachThibeau> good grief
02:16:56 <ZachThibeau> xD
02:16:57 <OliverK|School> lol
02:17:10 <ZachThibeau> why do people think I'm a bot
02:17:12
02:17:22 <ZachThibeau> xangua: just pure chance
02:17:26 <OliverK|School> because he's the admin for -ot :D
02:17:35 <xangua> jajaja just kidding, be happy ZachThibeau
02:17:51 <ZachThibeau> if I was any more happier my face would be cracked :P
02:19:45 <ZachThibeau> in fact I'm just happy to be able to talk to my girlfriend online :)
02:20:07 * rbrt13 has no girlfriend
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02:37:39 <Chazz> DarkKrystal!
02:38:35 <DarkKrystal> run little boy :p
02:38:46 <DarkKrystal> DarkKrystal
02:38:56 <DarkKrystal> cause Xenia was already registered
02:39:05 <NiveusLuna> false highlights >_>
02:39:29 <DarkKrystal> ouch
02:39:39 <DarkKrystal> oops, wrong tab :p
02:42:43 <Chazz> lol
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04:10:19 <DarkKrystal> night all
04:10:32 <rbrt13> good nigh
04:10:35 <rbrt13> night*
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04:37:20 <rbrt13> good night all
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05:02:12 <ZachThibeau> night everyone
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05:05:02 <Chazz> night za
05:05:04 <Chazz> night ZachT|ZzZz
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09:11:07 <taneth111> hi all.
09:11:18 <Chazz> 'ello taneth111
09:11:41 <taneth111> much happening? I've noticed that the new updater hasn't dropped yet...
09:11:56 <Chazz> Nope. :(
09:12:08 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... nothing really in particular.
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17:17:41 <purple> hi
17:17:48 <purple> anyone using ChromePortable?
17:17:55 <purple> i need a help with it
17:19:39 <purple> how AdditionalParameters line should look if i want to enable extensions and userscritps in v4 beta?
17:21:53 <purple> "help" :)
17:22:43 <WastePotato> :<
17:24:05 <WastePotato> I wish I could help you, but you'll have to wait until someone handier comes along. :/
17:24:51 <purple> :| i mean, i know what are the parameters, and i make it like this: AdditionalParameters=--enable-extensions --enable-user-scripts
17:25:02 <purple> but those features arent enabled yet
17:25:10 <purple> maybe i should try with just one -
17:25:13 <purple> sec
17:26:09 <purple> nope, doesnt work
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18:11:59 <purple> hmm
18:12:14 <purple> extensions doesnt work with Beta build, just with Dev channel one
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19:43:47 <OliverK> Release: http://portableapps.com/node/18669 Geany Portable .18 Dev Test 4
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20:21:56 <andreasma> hi
20:28:15 <gluxon> hi
20:28:30 <andreasma> hi gluxon
20:28:34 <sar3th> hello andreasma :)
20:28:40 <sar3th> and hey gluxon :)
20:29:15 <andreasma> howdy sar3th
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20:34:48 <SteveLamerton> Hello all
20:37:35 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
20:37:57 <SteveLamerton> Hello MaienM
20:38:11 <SteveLamerton> Good news -> http://portableapps.com/node/21420
20:38:55 <Bensawsome> sweet SteveLamerton ^_^
20:40:51 <sar3th> hello SteveLamerton :)
20:43:18 <MaienM> gratz SteveLamerton :)
20:43:31 <SteveLamerton> Hi sar3th, thanks Bensawsome, MaienM
20:43:40 <SteveLamerton> I am pretty chuffed :)
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21:36:56 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator
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21:48:56 <pa_8127> does anybody know where to put the GAP (gimp animation plugin) into portable gimp 2.6.7 so it works?
21:49:10 <ChrisMorgan> pa_8127: hang on, I'll check
21:51:07 <ChrisMorgan> http://registry.gimp.org/node/3500#comment-2055 - looks like you should be able to just install it to X:\PortableApps\GIMPPortable\App\gimp and it should work fine, or install somewhere else and copy the files.
21:51:52 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not familiar with all the details of GIMP plugins and GIMP Portable but I suspect that it won't be preserved during upgrade if you ever do upgrade, so you'd need to reinstall it.
21:52:58 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/2826
21:52:59 <pa_8127> which files am I suppost to move into that folder. I downloaded the .tar file and unzip it. I don't have admin and can't install
21:53:12 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, it's a tarball is it
21:53:19 <ChrisMorgan> Can you open the .tar file?
21:53:24 <ChrisMorgan> If not, get 7-Zip Portable
21:53:46 <pa_8127> yes i have unziped it with 7-zip
21:54:02 <ChrisMorgan> OK. What's the directory structure like inside it?
21:54:23 <ChrisMorgan> bin, etc, lib, share, that sort of thing?
21:55:04 <pa_8127> it's 1 file called limp-gap 2.6.0
21:55:23 <pa_8127> gimp contains those files you listed
21:55:41 <ChrisMorgan> Umm..
21:56:47 <ChrisMorgan> pa_8127: I'm not sure where it should go, try joining #gimp (click on that, it should be a link)
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22:21:23 <pa_8127> my computer died because of windows update. here's where we came before shutdown. I was wondering how to install GAP into portable GIMP. i've unziped the .tar file and i'm wondering where to put it?
22:21:48 <ChrisMorgan> pa_8127: I don't know; I've asked in #gimp but haven't had an answer
22:22:12 <ChrisMorgan> So there was only one file there? What was its full filename?
22:22:49 <ChrisMorgan> If it's gimp-gap-2.6.0.tar then double click on it in 7-Zip
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22:23:38 <ChrisMorgan> That's just something about how gz and bz2 work, they can only compress a single file, so an uncompressed archive is created (a tarball) and then it's compressed - so you get *.tar.bz2
22:23:47 <pa_8127> yes that's the filename, I unziped it and the unziped file is called the same thing exept .tar
22:23:57 <ChrisMorgan> A folder?
22:24:20 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I'll take a look at it
22:24:41 <pa_8127> yes. it contains 14 subfolders and 21 files of diffrent kinds
22:24:58 <TimClark> pa_8127: If I may ask, do you have a folder in a path like this : \GIMPPortable\App\gimp\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins ?
22:25:30 <ChrisMorgan> TimClark: oh good, you know how to do it? I don't know the GIMP plugin directory structures :-(
22:25:47 <pa_8127> no. it doesn't contain that folder
22:26:25 <TimClark> sorry chris, I don't really KNOW, but i have a folder like that and it contains the word "plug-ins" so i thought he might be a place to try
22:27:11 <ChrisMorgan> pa_8127: wait a minute, this looks to be the source distribution
22:27:22 <ChrisMorgan> Now I'm looking for Windows binaries at http://gimp-win.sf.net
22:28:23 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm... I can only find 2.2.0 at http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/files/ :-(
22:29:12 <pa_8127> I found the plug-in directory \GIMP\App\gimp\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins
22:29:39 <TimClark> ah, so you do have it :)
22:29:41 <ChrisMorgan> pa_8127: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/gimp-gap-2-6-0-for-windows-t28692.html might work
22:30:19 <TimClark> I can't be sure it will work, but it seems like a good place to try
22:30:36 <ChrisMorgan> I'd say just get the installer from there and install it to App\gimp
22:30:46 <ChrisMorgan> It should sort out where to put things
22:32:28 <pa_8127> what should i do with the exe, put it in the plug-in or extract it?
22:32:37 <ChrisMorgan> Run it
22:32:43 <ChrisMorgan> I think it'll be an installer
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22:35:09 <pa_8127> what destination folder for the setup
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22:37:13 <pa_8127> what destination folder should i put the gap in?
22:37:31 <ChrisMorgan> App\gimp inside your GIMP Portable location
22:38:38 <pa_8127> in the same folder as share, etc, bin, lib ?
22:38:43 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
22:38:55 <ChrisMorgan> It should cope with that as its location
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22:43:05 <pa_8127> IT WORKS! Gimp is slowed down a bit but it works. thanks for your patience, i'm swedish and my english isn't as good as it should. that's wy i'm asking so many questions so i don't missunderstand anything
22:43:27 <ChrisMorgan> Well done with your writing English then :-)
22:43:37 <ChrisMorgan> And good, glad you got it :-)
22:43:48 <pa_8127> thanks and god night :-)
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