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00:04:04 <TimClark> I guess he is done, thank you ptmb :D
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00:06:54 <ptmb> TimClark, ZachThibeau already has made a page on his new wiki where we can host our info until we talk with John and/or get a better place, http://pagamesclan.com/wiki/index.php?title=Support_page
00:07:03 <ptmb> I've already added some basic info in there
00:08:36 <TimClark> ptmb: that's fine, you really don't need to check with me about it :P joke
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00:09:42 <ZachThibeau> anyways this is FTR http://pagamesclan.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Support_page
00:10:14 <ZachThibeau> this is the talk page for the support page, so any conversations you want recorded concerning the main support page can be recorded here for future references
00:10:27 <ptmb> thanks ZachThibeau
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00:19:48 <ptmb> well, off to bed for me. TimClark don't forget to unban gluxon, and if somebody wants to support the new wiki, please do so
00:19:51 <ptmb> bye everybody
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00:20:01 <daBomb69> bai ptmb!
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00:40:43 <Horusofoz> hey all :)
00:40:48 <Chazz> Heya Horusofoz :D
00:40:55 <Horusofoz> Yo Chazz
00:41:21 <Horusofoz> So what's the current discussion?
00:41:34 <Chazz> i don't know! :P
00:41:47 <TimClark> all is quiet
00:42:38 <Horusofoz> Don't suppose John has dropped any PAM alphas here in recent times?
00:42:53 <TimClark> no
00:42:59 <Horusofoz> :(
00:44:24 <Horusofoz> Any clues as to what the major freeware release with millions of downloads that is coming to PA is?
00:46:07 <Horusofoz> ....See that tumble weed... look at it roll...
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01:29:41 <Chazz> night MaienM
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01:59:33 <sar3th> http://portableapps.com/node/21757
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02:45:18 <Chazz> wb TimClark, Bensawsome
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05:28:41 <serg> Whether there is a possibility to adjust hotkeys in portable apps?
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05:31:37 <serg> At me it is started two copies of the program. Whether it is possible to change colour of an icon in tray?
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05:47:58 <ChrisMorgan|Away> serg: not at the moment at least
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10:30:29 <purple> hi
10:30:46 <purple> could anyone help me hook up aspell to Notepad++ portable?
10:33:11 <purple> please? <3
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16:35:14 <pa_1556> HI there
16:35:31 <ChrisMorgan> Hello pa_1556! Can we help you?
16:35:33 <pa_1556> have a problem, need help with portable thunderbird
16:35:59 <pa_1556> Thinking how to describe the problem
16:36:59 <pa_1556> starting thunderbird and it asks me to register new accounts, basically looks blank, new, like I never used it before
16:37:04 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, I've got to go now
16:37:09 <ChrisMorgan> Someone else?
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16:37:21 <pa_1556> I know all my mail and multiple accounts are still there
16:37:35 <ptmb> pa_1556, we are preparing in another channel to help you, so please wait a little
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16:37:48 <pa_1556> sure, no problem
16:37:55 <MaienM> pa_1556: so, you previously setup your accounts and such, and now they are gone?
16:38:02 <pa_1556> yes
16:39:04 <pa_1556> Thusnderburd was running, I disconnected my hard drive, used it somewhere else, returned, connected drive back and.... closed and re-opened thunderbird. Everything was gone.
16:39:18 <MaienM> well that sounds like a corrupted profile, in which case most likely the only option is to delete/move/rename the Data folder (X:/PortableApps/ThunderbirdPortable/Data, where X: is your flash drive) and start with a fresh profile
16:39:50 <pa_1556> It's like the settings file was eraised. I think it's easy to fix, but I dont know how...
16:40:26 <MaienM> well if any file goes missing thunderbird will probably recreate it if it can
16:40:41 <MaienM> if it cannot, the profile gets corrupted and the data in it becomes unusable
16:40:50 <MaienM> or at least, thats what I think happens
16:41:17 <MaienM> you should start by checking your drive though, the problem might be unrelated to thunderbird itself
16:42:17 <pa_1556> well, I see all my accounts in thunder directories...
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16:42:43 <MaienM> you mean you can still see all your accounts in thunderbird itself?
16:43:07 <pa_1556> no, in the thunderbird folders
16:43:17 <pa_1556> on my disc
16:43:56 <MaienM> well you should start by checking your disk for errors to be sure the problem is not there
16:45:31 <pa_1556> will do
16:45:41 <MaienM> you can do so by right clicking the drive (in the My Computer screen), opening properties, going to the Tools tab, clicking the "Check now" button.
16:46:52 <pa_1556> any other suggestions? Maybe there is some setings file that I can manually modify to get my accounts/folders/emails back//
16:47:18 <MaienM> I've never had to manually edit any setting files, so I wouldn't know
16:47:32 <pa_1556> ok thanks
16:47:34 <MaienM> they can probably help you with that in the official thunderbird channel
16:47:46 <pa_1556> where is it?
16:47:57 <MaienM> its on the mozilla irc server
16:48:04 <MaienM> one second, I'll get you a link
16:49:55 <MaienM> http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=0c8534c9f966bd9a93065062623e330f&server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23thunderbird
16:50:43 <pa_1556> Thanks, appreciate it. Will give it a try
16:50:54 <MaienM> alright, good luck :)
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18:29:47 <TimClark> Att: MaienM , ZachThibeau , sar3th
18:31:47 <TimClark> I have thought of 2 VERY important things that should be added to the "wiki" support links "Help, I've lost my FFP [TBP] profile because [insert reason here] can i, how can i get it back ?"
18:32:48 <TimClark> I would say that to be able to get there FFP/TBP profile back is one of the most critial questions we should have clear, consice, and accurtate answers to
18:33:10 <sar3th> you're right about that TimClark
18:33:48 <TimClark> most things are simple, how to, i would like to, This is more, "Help, my life is over !"
18:34:22 <TimClark> We really should be ready to deal with these without guessing and risking making anything worse
18:34:32 <Chazz> Oh, and, what about FZP?
18:34:50 <TimClark> i doubt it Chazz
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18:35:23 <Chazz> Well, it might not be /as/ important as the Mozilla stuffs, but it really does suck to lose you FZ info...
18:36:38 <TimClark> i'm sure, but folks who lose 3 years worth of mail or super complex FF profiles are much more likely to be upset
18:36:48 <TimClark> and you can lose the "..." right away
18:36:54 <Chazz> Sorry.
18:36:59 <TimClark> right
18:38:22 <TimClark> I also don't know how complex FZ profiles are in relation to TB and FF, but we get FF and TB emergenices more often i'm sure
18:38:34 <Chazz> Ah, good point.
18:38:35 <TimClark> we got a TB one last night I think
18:38:47 <sar3th> yes
18:40:57 <TimClark> Anyway, that was just my thought , that to be able to add that info to an easy access list would be a high priority
18:42:20 <TimClark> Oh, and as far as .def answers go "Do not do a .def for answer while Someone Else is giving support" if you want to sugguest it do it in -ot, or if someone does not recall they can ask
18:43:06 <TimClark> if everyone starts .defing during support it will get very messy, VERY fast :/
18:43:36 <TimClark> Make sense ?
18:44:52 <ptmb> I am busy, so sorry but I can't help a lot now, anyway, I think that for the lost data problems, the vfirst advice to give is to backup the messed up stuff, and I agree with you TimClark about .defs
18:44:58 <ptmb> now sorry as I will be away
18:45:04 <Gizmokid2005> During support a .def should only be used if it has the answer, ie - if someone comes in complaining about a virus, someone should use the .def fp
18:45:14 <Gizmokid2005> but other than that, .defs should not be used during support, ever.
18:46:11 <TimClark> I would concur Gizmokid2005 , but i think once we have them the AWs will go crazy with them
18:46:39 <Gizmokid2005> It will be fair warning now, and always has been, that overuse will result in muting and/or banning as needed.
18:46:43 <Gizmokid2005> even if it is after the fact.
18:47:29 <TimClark> which is why, IF they are use, the person giving the support should be the only one, but it would make more sense to me to do the .def in -ot , to make sure it works and is the right one, and give it to the suporttee directly
18:48:06 <Gizmokid2005> yes, I agree completely
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21:08:45 <TimClark> ZachThibeau: you here
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22:49:15 <TimClark> Avast now sux , they will be bundling GBW with new installs :/ http://www.calendarofupdates.com/updates/index.php?showtopic=25713
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23:12:26 <Chazz> GBW?
23:13:19 <TimClark> .def gbw
23:13:20 <GizmoBot> gbw is GoogleButtWiper = Chrome = Our mortal enemy :P
23:16:21 <sar3th> we might have a operaportable soon
23:16:38 <sar3th> i'm going to bed now, good night
23:17:14 <MaienM> great, now we just need IE6(66) portable and Safari portable and we have an army to battle FFP :(
23:17:36 <MaienM> ofc since 99% of the pcs has IE6 already we don't need a portable version of that
23:17:36 <Gizmokid2005> Lol
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23:18:13 <Chazz> night sar3th|away
23:18:23 <Chazz> MaienM, lol
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