IRC Log from 2010-01-29

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00:03:44 <sar3th> i agree, don't feed the trolls
00:04:59 <JohnTHaller> If people are genuinely interested, I can post details of the versions, GPL violations, EULA violations and the 'misstatements' to reporters so there is a public record of it. It may assist with educating publishers as well.
00:05:28 <ChrisMorgan> Hall of Shame.
00:07:42 <JohnTHaller> Maybe. Not sure if it's worth it, really. It's a small-fry project with a small userbase. Though it would be nice to make them aware of what they've actually gotten themselves into.
00:08:04 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah. It's probably the biggest of our "competition" though, I'd say?
00:08:52 <JohnTHaller> That would be Ceedo. THey're a decent 2nd to us.
00:09:02 <JohnTHaller> Then U3. Then WinPenPack.
00:09:07 <ChrisMorgan> OK.
00:09:13 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, I was forgetting about WinPenPack
00:09:18 <JohnTHaller> LiberKey would be more like 5th or 6th,
00:09:21 <ChrisMorgan> And U3 is so easy to forget about completely...
00:09:27 <ChrisMorgan> Different market really. And it's dead.
00:09:31 <JohnTHaller> And at least WinPenPack usually includes source and credits.
00:09:35 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah
00:09:44 <ChrisMorgan> They do things decently and in order.
00:09:45 <JohnTHaller> Framakey does, too. They mod our stuff for the French folks.
00:09:56 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
00:10:20 <gluxon> Can't believe they copied eXpresso :'(
00:10:22 <JohnTHaller> Lupo doesn't. He's probably right behind Liberkey in terms of users.
00:10:33 <ChrisMorgan> That far up, eh?
00:11:05 <gluxon> I've been trying to get Lupo to release source and quire permission from mozilla.
00:11:16 <gluxon> *acquire
00:11:26 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: (/very/ dryly) good luck
00:12:29 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, Mozilla won't give Lupo permission. ANd they definitely won't give LiberKey permission.
00:12:41 <gluxon> Ah.
00:12:52 <ChrisMorgan> And they wouldn't look for it anyway.
00:13:06 <gluxon> Then their only option is to use IceCat.
00:13:44 <ChrisMorgan> Not "only", there are other trademark-free builds.
00:13:49 <ChrisMorgan> But the equivalent of it, yes.
00:14:26 <JohnTHaller> WinPenPack had to remove the original X-Firefox. They're not bundling the actual Firefox installer and pulling files out of it. But they're actually still in violation for calling it X-Firefox. Liberkey makes no attempt at legality and just repackages it and modifies the settings without permission.
00:16:08 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, they would be. Thinking of name restrictions, should I go and take down links to TrueCrypt Portable as derivatives aren't allowed to use "TrueCrypt" in the name according to the TrueCrypt License? I've given ample time for the developer to release a new, rebranded version
00:17:40 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... did he reach out to the TrueCrypt folks at all? Can we?
00:17:43 <JohnTHaller> brb
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00:18:45 <GizmoBot> Chazz is the awesome developer of Bash Portable http://portableapps.com/node/20277 and GEdit Portable! (And Gnumeric Portable) :D
00:19:00 <ChrisMorgan> I doubt he did. We probably could.
00:19:11 <ChrisMorgan> We need a more official TrueCrypt Portable at some time.
00:19:42 <ChrisMorgan> I think the Launcher will help with it. I'll be putting in privilege escalation with the UAC plug-in soon
00:21:24 <sar3th> privilege escalation? you mean privilege requesting, don't you?
00:22:48 <ChrisMorgan> Either term will do.
00:24:34 <ChrisMorgan> I know "privilege escalation" is more often used as a type of security hole, but it's what is done.
00:25:00 <ChrisMorgan> Sure, the user has to type in a password or press "OK" in the UAC box, but it's still escalation of privileges
00:25:22 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: should I upload PAL1PA1 to SourceForge?
00:26:11 <ChrisMorgan> I imagine I'd use the directory name "PortableApps.com Launcher\PortableApps.com Launcher 1.0 Pre-Alpha 1" -- or "PortableApps.com Launcher\1.0 Pre-Alpha 1"?
00:26:44 <sar3th> escalation normally means, that something is uncontrollable, which is not the case ;)
00:27:11 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think it means that
00:27:46 <Chazz> .dict escalation
00:27:46 <GizmoBot> escalation - 1. increase
00:34:23 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I set the default download on the SourceForge project to PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_1.6.exe rather than 1.5.2
00:35:38 <gluxon> ChrisMorgan: Wait you have the power to do that? :D
00:35:45 <ChrisMorgan> I do now.
00:37:35 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not an admin of the project, but I can access the shell service (to create my nice shiny new launcher repository), commit to mercurial repositories (to work on my nice shiny new launcher) and manage files (to upload releases of my nice shiny new launcher).
00:38:21 <gluxon> Sweet :)
00:38:48 <JohnTHaller> an\d back
00:38:51 <JohnTHaller> thnx chris
00:39:37 * ChrisMorgan reckons SourceForge should replace the main project download page with it as it is in the file admin page minus the administrative commands
00:40:08 <ChrisMorgan> Then it would load folder contents etc. with Ajaxy techniques rather than trying to load a complex HTML and Javascript page which is almost 5MB.
00:43:18 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: should I give a path for the launcher forum thread, development/launcher or should I just leave it with the plain boring node/NNNNN? (That path is referenced in the package in expectation of what it will be when finished.)
00:44:31 <JohnTHaller> Give it a URL in the docs of /development for now as the official one since we'll add it there when it's done. We'll get it up with a link from /dev to the beta topic next week
00:45:06 <ChrisMorgan> development/launcher?
00:45:34 <JohnTHaller> no, just pa.c/dev
00:45:37 <JohnTHaller> for now anyway
00:45:43 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, OK, I see
00:45:46 <ChrisMorgan> In the package
00:45:51 <JohnTHaller> yea
00:46:37 <ChrisMorgan> Ahhh, the power of bash and grep... vim `grep -l development/launcher *`
00:48:19 <ChrisMorgan> Sure, I should use sed, but I haven't looked at it yet.
00:50:43 <ChrisMorgan> Gah, no appicon_(16|32).png
00:51:14 <JohnTHaller> In what?
00:51:19 <ChrisMorgan> PAL
00:51:21 <ChrisMorgan> Silly me.
00:57:07 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: Since you're here too... ChrisMorgan, do you recall what reg entries from Qt you found in KVirc portable that were left behind?
00:57:22 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: I didn't try
00:57:28 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry
00:57:50 <Gizmokid2005> and JohnTHaller, my question for you is since they're Qt bs reg entries, and aren't needed for anything, do you have any problems with just deleting them upon close?
00:57:53 <ChrisMorgan> As far as I can see though the Qt plugin cache must be enabled - there's no way of disabling it at runtime
00:57:56 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: you found them a while back...
00:58:11 <ChrisMorgan> Gizmokid2005: they were from my local KVIrc installation
00:58:15 <Gizmokid2005> if you don't have them handy I'll just find them again...
00:58:18 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
00:58:20 <Gizmokid2005> alright.
00:58:29 <ChrisMorgan> Or actually... maybe there were some from right at the start
00:58:40 <ChrisMorgan> I think that they should be there though unless you manually kill them
00:59:05 <ChrisMorgan> I'll be putting killing of the relevant Qt plugin cache stuff into the launcher soon
01:00:55 <ChrisMorgan> Heh heh... it appears that you /do/ get told when a program crashes in Wine :D
01:01:03 <ChrisMorgan> PortableApps.com Installer just died :-(
01:01:37 <ChrisMorgan> Just like Windows... "The program PortableApps.comInstaller.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." in the white area
01:01:59 <JohnTHaller> odd
01:02:08 <JohnTHaller> never seen that. what did you DO chris?
01:02:21 <ChrisMorgan> Just ran the PortableApps.com Installer in Wine.
01:02:32 <ChrisMorgan> Then the rest of the message is Wine-specific... /not/ like Windows :-)
01:02:37 <ChrisMorgan> I'll try it without the CLA
01:02:42 <JohnTHaller> Hmm.. odd. Died as soon as you fired it up?
01:02:47 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
01:02:56 <ChrisMorgan> It's in some threading stuff
01:03:13 <ChrisMorgan> The backtrace seems to indicate that anyway
01:03:15 <Gizmokid2005> ChrisMorgan: yeah, but I'd like to get it finished up in my launcher...since I'm doing a rewrite of it to try and use the built-in switch to specify an INI which in turn specifies the profile location
01:03:41 <ChrisMorgan> What it said was "Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x02b09510 in 32-bit code (0x0040139d)."
01:04:01 <ChrisMorgan> Possibly running a 64-bit Ubuntu machine isn't helping with it.
01:04:04 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: are you OK with the entries just being blown away?
01:04:16 <JohnTHaller> what entries?
01:04:28 <ChrisMorgan> When I put an invalid path in, and when appicon_*.png weren't there, it failed normally.
01:04:46 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: Qt plugin cache entries in the registry.
01:04:58 <Gizmokid2005> they have no paths or anything...it's just bs bloat
01:05:21 <ChrisMorgan> Tried again to refresh my memory, going through the wizard rather than specifying the directory in the command line, and it got to "Creating PortableApps.com Installer..." and then crashed
01:05:41 <ChrisMorgan> Same page fault.
01:05:49 <ChrisMorgan> :-(
01:06:28 <ChrisMorgan> Probably due to how it spawns makensis.exe.
01:07:28 <JohnTHaller> Digg it please! http://digg.com/software/PortableApps_com_Suite_and_Platform_1_6_Released_for_USB
01:07:37 * ChrisMorgan doesn't use digg
01:07:53 <JohnTHaller> lame :-P
01:08:04 <ChrisMorgan> Oh come on, I waste enough time in here as it is.
01:08:13 <ChrisMorgan> And this launcher work, when I could be working on my own project...
01:08:18 <ChrisMorgan> *sigh* the things I do ;-)
01:12:28 <JohnTHaller> alright, must be off to dinner. sending a friend off to new zealand for a year.
01:12:44 <JohnTHaller> night all
01:13:48 <ChrisMorgan> Bye
01:13:50 <Gizmokid2005> night JohnTHaller
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01:27:35 <ChrisMorgan> So I think the ExecDos plugin doesn't work in Wine.
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01:42:06 <ChrisMorgan> arethusa in #winehq suggested I try upgrading from 1.1.31 (Ubuntu dev version)... to 1.1.37 (PPA dev version) and now it's working fine :-)
01:42:11 <ChrisMorgan> And so, I am happy :-)
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01:46:27 <ChrisMorgan> Any last issues anyone would like to point out before I make the release of the PortableApps.com Installer 1.0 Pre-Alpha 1?
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01:47:33 <ChrisMorgan> It... crashed again! :-(
01:49:51 <ZachThibeau> you could always pull the latest svn and compile yourself and see if that works
01:49:57 <ZachThibeau> I've done that occasionally
01:50:29 <ZachThibeau> warning though it can be a pain to compile
01:50:54 <ChrisMorgan> I was running PAI 1.0.2 by accident. 1.0.3 works :-/
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01:51:05 <ChrisMorgan> Ours not to reason why, ours but to CELEBRATE!
01:51:07 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
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02:37:19 <ChrisMorgan> Weird bug. It seems fairly random whether it succeeds or fails
02:37:37 <ChrisMorgan> Well, are you all ready for the first release of the PortableApps.com Launcher?
02:38:58 <ChrisMorgan> Someone say "Yes", please
02:39:04 <Guest97072> Yes
02:39:32 <ChrisMorgan> Guest97072: the key is "22364"
02:39:35 <ChrisMorgan> http://portableapps.com/node/22364
02:40:09 <Guest97072> umm, yay?
02:40:21 <ChrisMorgan> Yay.
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03:08:02 <ChrisMorgan> Now that I've done that I think I'm going to do my own work for a while rather than the Launcher work.
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03:18:25 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback
03:18:48 <computerfreaker> Any Vista/Seven users have a few moments?
03:19:53 <ChrisMorgan> computerfreaker: that thing with "unlock as admin" wasn't a crash: Wine does put up a Windows-like crash message for "real" crashes.
03:20:10 <ChrisMorgan> Internally it may have made it quit, but it didn't - in the strict sense of the word - crash.
03:20:56 <computerfreaker> ok, thanks for the info!
03:21:23 <computerfreaker> I'm actually looking for a Vista/Seven user to check a newer, different feature
03:22:16 <ChrisMorgan> I know
03:22:20 <ChrisMorgan> Just thought I'd tell you
03:22:21 <computerfreaker> I do wonder why KidSafe just died on "Administrator unlock", thoug - it's just standard Windows API calls. (ShellExecuteEx, to be precise)
03:22:27 <computerfreaker> *though
03:22:44 <computerfreaker> well, thanks for the information! Sounds like a Wine problem, and one I'll do some research on
03:23:12 <ChrisMorgan> I looked at that
03:23:41 <ChrisMorgan> If you liked you could run it in Wine and then contact their team directly. Having me as a middleman doesn't help, I'm sure.
03:23:55 <computerfreaker> actually, it really helps
03:24:23 <computerfreaker> I don't have a Linux box right now, just a LiveCD (which, IIRC, won't let me install apps) - I'm relying heavily on others to provide Wine feedback atm
03:24:40 <computerfreaker> and so far, you're the only one who's tried KidSafe on Wine and told me how it went
03:25:06 <ChrisMorgan> computerfreaker: you could do a /really/ roundabout way and use andLinux
03:25:17 <ChrisMorgan> Wine in andLinux in Windows
03:25:19 <ChrisMorgan> Fun fun :D
03:25:21 * computerfreaker wonders if that would work
03:25:28 <ChrisMorgan> Should do.
03:25:39 <computerfreaker> I do have something like andLinux - Portable Ubuntu
03:25:47 <computerfreaker> and it does work, mostly, on my system
03:25:49 <ChrisMorgan> The coLinux kernel is just the kernel built for Windows.
03:25:54 <ChrisMorgan> Doesn't that require rebooting?
03:26:06 <computerfreaker> no, I don't think so
03:26:09 <computerfreaker> doesn't for me, anyway
03:26:16 <ChrisMorgan> Oh... maybe it's something different I'm thinking of
03:26:23 <computerfreaker> it's something like a virtual machine and something like QEMU
03:26:28 <computerfreaker> here, let me grab a link for you
03:26:40 <computerfreaker> http://portableubuntu.demonccc.com.ar/
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03:28:25 <computerfreaker> oh, I /can/ install apps on a LiveCD!
03:28:26 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, that's a different one to the one I knew
03:28:32 <computerfreaker> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=840478
03:28:35 <ChrisMorgan> Sure. When you reboot they'll be gone though.
03:28:46 <computerfreaker> yeah, which is a definite disadvantage
03:29:01 <computerfreaker> it might be better than Portable Ubuntu, though, since PUbuntu crashes pretty frequently
03:29:23 <ChrisMorgan> If you can install software, use VirtualBox
03:29:45 <ChrisMorgan> So that Portable Ubuntu Remix is andLinux
03:29:54 <ChrisMorgan> Plus or minus
03:29:59 <computerfreaker> I've got VBox Portable, just haven't gotten around to setting it up yet; I think that just became a high priority.
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03:30:20 <computerfreaker> and yes, from what I can tell, PUbuntu is just andLinux with some changes
03:31:51 <computerfreaker> WOW
03:32:04 <computerfreaker> just tried installing Wine on PUbuntu and almost blew out my entire system
03:33:13 <ChrisMorgan> :D
03:33:23 <ChrisMorgan> Grand.
03:34:14 <computerfreaker> definitely
03:34:32 <computerfreaker> I went to the Package Manager, got asked for the admin password, and the entire thing locked up
03:34:41 <ChrisMorgan> Nice.
03:34:44 <computerfreaker> better still, the login screen covered my *entire* screen - I couldn't get at anything
03:34:47 <ChrisMorgan> Have you used the package manager before?
03:34:56 <computerfreaker> yes, but only in VBox
03:35:11 <ChrisMorgan> So long as you knew your password or could press cancel...
03:35:38 <computerfreaker> I couldn't press Cancel
03:35:42 <computerfreaker> the whole dialog iced up
03:36:17 <computerfreaker> and since the dialog covered my screen, I couldn't get anything. Lucky Ctrl-Alt-Del isn't overridden by PUbuntu
03:37:11 <computerfreaker> well, I'm creating a new Ubuntu VM in VBox right now
03:44:24 <computerfreaker> So, anybody on Vista or Seven?
03:45:10 <ZachThibeau> WIndows XP, Vista and 7 plus several other flavours of *nix and occasionally osx
03:45:33 <computerfreaker> do you have a few moments?
03:45:58 <ZachThibeau> actually I'm busy with some programming of my own
03:46:00 <computerfreaker> ok
03:46:04 <computerfreaker> thanks anyway!
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04:27:38 <computerfreaker> Yay!
04:27:49 <computerfreaker> Just got a Ubuntu VM up and running
04:28:08 <computerfreaker> Now for Wine
04:34:48 <ChrisMorgan> Get Wine from the dev channel
04:34:51 <ChrisMorgan> The PPA
04:35:08 <ChrisMorgan> http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
04:35:19 <computerfreaker> thanks for the link!
04:35:20 <ChrisMorgan> That'll get you 1.1.37 rather than 1.1.31
04:35:25 <computerfreaker> ok
04:35:46 <computerfreaker> I'm working on collecting Wine right now; my VM crashed for some reason, so I'm rebooting it
04:38:51 <computerfreaker> there we go
04:38:55 <computerfreaker> Downloading file 2 of 7
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05:01:58 <computerfreaker> wow, Wine's pretty darn cool!
05:16:35 <computerfreaker> ChrisMorgan: I don't know what's up, but the "Administrator unlock" button didn't do anything on my Ubuntu VM
05:16:53 <computerfreaker> no crashes, nothing unusual other than a slight delay (probably caused by processing)
05:16:55 <ChrisMorgan> Good
05:17:29 <computerfreaker> Still wondering what happened on your box though. What kind of Linux do you have?
05:19:28 <ChrisMorgan> Ubuntu 9.10
05:19:33 <ChrisMorgan> I was using 1.3.31
05:19:42 <ChrisMorgan> And 0.23.0.0
05:19:53 <ChrisMorgan> Can't really remember what happened anyway...
05:19:56 <ChrisMorgan> I'm getting old ;-)
05:22:02 <computerfreaker> maybe a system-specific thing then, since I used Ubuntu 8.04 with Wine 1.0.1 and KidSafe 0.25.1.0
05:28:00 <computerfreaker> Well, I have to go. More stuff waiting for me to do...
05:28:02 <computerfreaker> bye guys!
05:28:07 <computerfreaker> Thanks for the help, ChrisMorgan!
05:28:15 <ChrisMorgan> You're welcome :-)
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13:46:48 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback
13:47:17 <computerfreaker> Hi guys!
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14:16:34 <computerfreaker> Does anyone with Vista or Seven have a few moments?
14:17:10 <Bensawsome> computerfreaker what ya need
14:17:10 <Bensawsome> err
14:17:14 <Bensawsome> lemme boot it first xD
14:17:46 <Bensawsome> but i only have a few few moments >_>
14:17:52 <Bensawsome> like 10-15 minutes
14:18:17 <computerfreaker> great, thank you!
14:18:30 <Bensawsome> lol
14:18:33 <Bensawsome> np
14:18:53 <computerfreaker> could you grab the latest version of KidSafe and see if the "Lock Removable Devices" feature works correctly?
14:18:55 <computerfreaker> http://kidsafe.googlecode.com/files/KidSafePortable_0.25.2.0_Development_Test_1_English.paf.exe
14:19:26 <computerfreaker> The API documentation stated that the calls I'm using are only supported up to XP, but I'm willing to bet they'll still work on Vista or Seven
14:22:14 <Bensawsome> oh
14:22:15 <Bensawsome> ummm
14:22:25 <Bensawsome> i dont have a drive with me computerfreaker :S
14:22:29 <Bensawsome> im on my laptop
14:22:30 <Bensawsome> xD
14:22:33 <computerfreaker> does your computer have a CD drive?
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14:22:56 <Bensawsome> ya
14:23:03 <Bensawsome> but
14:23:03 <Bensawsome> this is a vm
14:23:14 <Bensawsome> and i dunno if it isnt supported if its gonna screw it up ._.
14:23:18 <Bensawsome> u think it will?
14:23:27 <computerfreaker> no, I don't think it will
14:23:31 <Bensawsome> k
14:23:35 <computerfreaker> I think the worst that could happen is a KidSafe crash
14:23:41 <Bensawsome> ill mount the cd drive then try
14:23:43 <Bensawsome> cool
14:23:58 <computerfreaker> thanks, Bensawsome! I really appreciate that!
14:24:35 <Bensawsome> now if only my computer will respond!
14:24:37 <Bensawsome> raggge
14:24:38 <Bensawsome> lol
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14:27:25 <Bensawsome> computerfreaker and what should locking them do?
14:27:37 <computerfreaker> it *should* prevent the CD drive from ejecting
14:27:43 <Bensawsome> oh
14:27:48 <Bensawsome> i dont have a cd either....
14:27:49 <Bensawsome> -_-
14:27:52 * Bensawsome lols
14:28:21 <computerfreaker> an empty CD drive is OK as long as it's got a physical "Eject" button or you can right-click the drive in Explorer and hit "Eject"
14:28:29 <Bensawsome> oh cool
14:28:30 <Bensawsome> lol
14:28:32 <Bensawsome> yep
14:28:32 <computerfreaker> :)
14:30:24 <Bensawsome> ok (finally) downloading xD
14:30:31 <computerfreaker> ok
14:30:47 <Bensawsome> stupid network is so freaking slow
14:31:15 <computerfreaker> :(
14:33:48 <Bensawsome> ok so Locker all removable devices computerfreaker?
14:33:58 <computerfreaker> yep
14:34:02 <Bensawsome> *lock rather
14:34:03 <Bensawsome> lol
14:34:15 <computerfreaker> it should be in the Options dialog you'll get as soon as you fire up KidSafe
14:34:57 <Bensawsome> ok so i went and right clicked on the cd/dvd drive when it is (supposedly) locked
14:35:03 <Bensawsome> and it said error ejecting drive
14:35:33 <computerfreaker> if you turn off KidSafe, does the drive eject OK?
14:35:33 <Bensawsome> and normally it doesnt show that
14:35:37 <Bensawsome> ya
14:35:40 <Bensawsome> it seems to work
14:35:42 <Bensawsome> ^_^
14:35:46 <computerfreaker> great!! :D
14:35:49 <Bensawsome> :D
14:35:51 <computerfreaker> Thanks for the help, Bensawsome!!
14:36:03 <Bensawsome> no prob
14:36:04 <computerfreaker> I /really/ appreciate it!
14:36:12 <Bensawsome> shuttin 7 down
14:36:19 <Bensawsome> too much resources
14:36:19 <Bensawsome> lol
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16:11:35 <pa_2873> Hello, can anyone tell me how to get the portable app menu to autorun?
16:12:54 <pa_2873> I am on an hp laptop running windows 7. When I plug in the thumb drive I have to click on the portable app menu to have it come up.
16:13:18 <pa_2873> There is an autorun script on my thumb drive, but it doesn't run
16:13:27 <computerfreaker> Windows 7 has autorun disabled as a security measure
16:13:42 <computerfreaker> you won't be able to get *anything* to autorun under Windows 7, unfortunately
16:13:46 <pa_2873> Aw, ok
16:13:51 <computerfreaker> sorry!
16:14:05 <pa_2873> np, thought I might have installed the suite incorrectly
16:14:19 <pa_2873> thanks for your help computerfreaker
16:14:25 <computerfreaker> you're welcome!
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17:12:14 <JohnTHaller> hola
17:12:23 <Gizmokid2005> hello JohnTHaller
17:19:10 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
17:25:43 <Gizmokid2005> it goes. Impatiently awaiting the arrival of my new Macbook Pro
17:27:06 <JohnTHaller> ah nice
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17:28:32 <morrjo84> Mind if I get some help?
17:28:48 <Gizmokid2005> ask away morrjo84
17:29:09 <morrjo84> I am trying to compile some NSI script, and It gives me the error: Error: Section left open at EOF
17:31:51 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: ^?
17:33:05 <MaienM> you probably forgot a SectionEnd at the end of the file
17:33:25 <morrjo84> ahh
17:33:29 <morrjo84> Ill try that
17:35:04 <morrjo84> there we go
17:35:08 <morrjo84> that worked
17:35:14 <morrjo84> thx
17:36:34 <morrjo84> another question
17:38:53 <morrjo84> im trying to compile another script, and it gives me an error, on the CheckRunning header
17:39:27 <morrjo84> it looks the same as the others in other .nsi, yet it still produces errors.
17:40:21 <MaienM> can you paste the full error log on something like pastebin.com?
17:40:38 <morrjo84> Ill try
17:40:41 <morrjo84> gimme a sec
17:42:11 <morrjo84> done : go here:http://pastebin.com/dd1ced52
17:43:47 <MaienM> http://portableapps.com/node/18838
17:44:22 <morrjo84> I was missing some plugins?
17:44:41 <MaienM> that seems to be the case, yes
17:44:46 <morrjo84> good
17:45:00 <morrjo84> thats an easy fix
17:45:01 <morrjo84> thx
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17:46:30 <morrjo84> well
17:46:35 <morrjo84> its still bugging me about it
17:47:14 <morrjo84> it seems to be specifically the chechrunning line
17:47:21 <MaienM> could you pastebin the error(s) you get?
17:48:08 <morrjo84> one sec...
17:48:40 <morrjo84> lol...
17:48:46 <morrjo84> I just found out what the error was
17:48:51 <morrjo84> *facepalm*
17:49:11 <morrjo84> I tried to define it Twice...
17:49:15 <MaienM> hehe, glad you got it to work :)
17:49:43 <morrjo84> yet ANOTHER error
17:51:14 <morrjo84> http://pastebin.com/d3878120b
17:51:53 <morrjo84> I put the actual error at the bottom
17:52:24 <MaienM> thats not the actual error morrjo84
17:52:28 <MaienM> or well, not all of it
17:52:52 <morrjo84> what's all buggy then?
17:53:10 <MaienM> could you please paste more of the error (like, all output nsis gives when compiling)?
17:53:19 <morrjo84> k...
17:54:14 <morrjo84> here is all that NSIS outputed :http://pastebin.com/d24a02bd0
17:54:57 <MaienM> "!insertmacro: macro "registry::SaveKey" requires 4 parameter(s), passed 3!"
17:55:04 <MaienM> there you go, that is your problem
17:56:04 <MaienM> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Registry_plug-in#Registry_Export_.28save_to_the_file_in_REGEDIT4_format.29
17:58:47 <MaienM> in your case, what you want to do probably is ${registry::SaveKey} "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Safari" "$SETTINGSDIRECTORY\Safari_portable.reg" "" $0
17:58:50 <morrjo84> ahh
18:01:39 <morrjo84> there
18:01:45 <morrjo84> I also fixed the last of the problems
18:01:48 <morrjo84> thx
18:01:54 <MaienM> you're welcome
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18:46:34 <[Oliver]> Hello I am in need of help please
18:47:53 <MaienM> hello [Oliver], what can we help you with?
18:49:10 <[Oliver]> I have installed portable apps onto my memory stick and have coppied Microsoft Office 2003 from school onto it because I do not have MS Access at home. But when I try and run MS Access it says that the operating system is not presently configured to run this application
18:50:10 <Gizmokid2005> [Oliver]: Office is not a portable application
18:50:11 <Gizmokid2005> and never will be
18:50:14 <MaienM> MS Acces just wont work that way, microsoft doesn;t want it to
18:50:20 <Gizmokid2005> you can use the alternative of OpenOffice.org from our site.
18:50:38 <[Oliver]> Oh right
18:50:49 <[Oliver]> Thankyou very much
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19:01:08 <JohnTHaller> Think I might post a quick how-to on this: http://portableapps.com/files/images/screenshots/firefoxportable_all_versions.png What do you guys think?
19:02:01 <ZachThibeau> I'm thinking wow the difference and history of the firefox icon :P
19:02:10 <ZachThibeau> but a good idea though
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21:31:14 <Alcasar> my java applets don't work
21:31:50 <Alcasar> ff 3.6 java 6 update 18 both portableapps
21:32:03 <OliverK> fiefox uses the local java
21:32:54 <Alcasar> my about:plugins says Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U18
21:33:45 <Alcasar> and the computers are rarely updated so i doubt it
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21:34:02 <OliverK> you have java installed locally?
21:34:36 <Alcasar> not sure it's a public computer
21:36:05 <pa_7028Bill> Help: Is there an easy way to know which portable apps need updating? I'm assuming I need to update with PA versions, not just via the update within the program (if any).
21:36:20 <OliverK> Alcasar: if you don't have java locally, it won't work.
21:36:44 <OliverK> pa_7028Bill: not yet, there is the updator, but I'm not sure if the way it checks is still valid
21:37:14 <Alcasar> pa_7028Bill: i use the feed
21:37:50 <Alcasar> OliverK: Then what's the use of java portable?
21:37:58 <OliverK> openoffice portable
21:38:05 <OliverK> rssowl portable
21:38:13 <pa_7028Bill> Thanks. I only need to use PA intermittently and can't really stay on top via a feed
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21:40:18 <Alcasar> OliverK: but not ff portable
21:41:01 <Alcasar> :-(
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21:43:50 <pa_7028Bill> Oliver: Does "not yet" mean PA 2.0 perhaps?
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21:45:15 <OliverK> pa_7028Bill: is supposed to show up at some point
21:49:27 <pa_7028Bill> I won't wait with baited breathe. Thanks. Bye.
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21:52:34 <pa_3660> how do you set the app to autorun
21:53:39 <OliverK> right click on them
21:53:49 <pa_3660> okay and,,,
21:53:51 <OliverK> use the latest menu
21:54:06 <OliverK> you don't have a run on start option in the menu?
21:54:18 <pa_3660> let me check
21:55:07 <pa_3660> no i mean how to start the entire program
21:55:20 <pa_3660> i have win7 and it wont do it
21:55:22 <OliverK> the menu?
21:55:29 <OliverK> when you plug the flash drive in?
21:55:45 <pa_3660> yes it wont start when i plug my flash drive in
21:55:52 <pa_3660> i can do it manually
21:55:54 <OliverK> your computer? or someone elses
21:55:58 <pa_3660> my own
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21:57:13 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback
21:58:20 <OliverK> pa_3660: do you get a popup?
21:58:28 <OliverK> something asking what you would like to do
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22:56:09 <pa_5805> hi
22:56:15 <pa_5805> can any one help me?
22:56:36 <computerfreaker> sure, pa_5805. What's up?
22:56:50 <gluxon> Sure :)
22:57:26 <pa_5805> I am in iran and for last two weeks I could not download any thing from sourgeforge
22:57:41 <gluxon> Why? What errors do you get?
22:58:02 <computerfreaker> pa_5805: check out this thread on the forums:
22:58:03 <computerfreaker> http://portableapps.com/node/22279
22:58:07 <pa_5805> forbidden 403
22:58:07 <computerfreaker> that looks like your problem
22:58:57 <pa_5805> Your request is being denied as it appears to be coming from a location banned by our Terms of Use.
22:59:07 <computerfreaker> what ISP do you have?
22:59:09 <OliverK|School> ?
22:59:23 <pa_5805> this is error
22:59:25 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5805: if that's the error you're getting from sourceforge, there's nothing any of us can do about it.
22:59:34 <computerfreaker> sounds like your ISP is blocking you.
22:59:39 <computerfreaker> What ISP do you have?
22:59:43 <Gizmokid2005> that's an issue with sourceforge and whoever is providing your internet.
22:59:55 <pa_5805> i am using a dial up connection
23:00:08 <pa_5805> parsonline.com
23:00:39 <MaienM> sounds like sourceforge is blocking connections from your location, unfortunately there is not much we can do about that :(
23:01:30 <computerfreaker> Try contacting your ISP and see if they can help you. Do you have their phone # and e-mail address?
23:01:34 <OliverK|School> nope
23:01:35 <OliverK|School> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/25/sourceforge-blocks-iran-north-korea-syria-sudan-and-cuba/
23:01:35 <pa_5805> and is this meaning of open source?
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23:01:53 <OliverK|School> pa_5805: there's only so much we can do
23:02:11 <MaienM> sourceforge is not in our control, we can't do much about it.
23:02:28 <OliverK|School> http://sourceforge.net/blog/clarifying-sourceforgenets-denial-of-site-access-for-certain-persons-in-accordance-with-us-law/
23:02:37 <OliverK|School> this seems only a few days new :(
23:02:45 <computerfreaker> MaienM, OliverK|School, Gizmokid2005: do we have an external mirror he could try?
23:02:50 <MaienM> nope
23:02:52 <Gizmokid2005> computerfreaker: no.
23:02:54 <OliverK|School> uhm, not that i know of
23:02:55 <MaienM> but if he tells we what he wants
23:02:57 <Gizmokid2005> everything is hosted with sourceforge
23:03:03 <OliverK|School> tor maybe, but it will be slow
23:03:05 <MaienM> I can mirror it for him so he can download it
23:03:13 <OliverK|School> and quite possible against tos
23:03:46 <pa_5805> what is my sins?
23:04:03 <computerfreaker> you haven't done anything wrong, pa_5805
23:04:13 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5805: it's nothing YOU did, you need to read the articles you were linked to understand the issue.
23:04:43 <pa_5805> is it my fualt that i was bornd in iran?
23:04:48 <MaienM> iran is on the U.S. 'Foreign Assets Control sanction list', and sourceforge was legally forced to block all those countries
23:04:49 <OliverK|School> nope
23:04:52 <MaienM> no, it is not
23:05:13 <MaienM> but you can hardly blame us or sourceforge for it
23:05:22 <MaienM> *is = the block
23:05:24 <OliverK|School> MaienM offered to mirror some things if you'd like
23:05:28 <MaienM> yep
23:05:32 <pa_5805> a day I said only open source matters
23:05:38 <OliverK|School> that's the best we can do
23:05:39 <pa_5805> like joomla
23:05:55 <pa_5805> but now I should surf the web like a crimer
23:05:57 <OliverK|School> joomla == web service not a server
23:06:31 <MaienM> I'm sorry pa_5805, I understand that you are pissed (and very rightfully so) but there is nothing we can do, law is law
23:06:46 <MaienM> I can however mirror anything you want so you can still download it
23:07:04 <MaienM> which does not fix the unjust being done here, but unfortunately its the best we can do for you
23:07:41 <pa_5805> thanks @maienM
23:07:50 <pa_5805> and for future?
23:08:00 <pa_5805> I should ask you?
23:08:26 <gluxon> pa_5805: If MaienM isn't here, feel free to ask me to mirror :)
23:08:53 <pa_5805> thanks
23:09:01 <pa_5805> thanks all of you
23:09:24 <computerfreaker> sorry we can't help you more
23:09:38 <pa_5805> what?
23:09:58 <computerfreaker> I was apologizing that we can't fix the SourceForge problem
23:10:36 <pa_5805> oh yes
23:10:58 <pa_5805> but gluxen and maienm said me they can help me to find mirror
23:11:21 <computerfreaker> yes, they can both help you
23:11:35 <pa_5805> thanks
23:11:43 <gluxon> pa_5805: What we mean is we can upload the thing you want and you can download off us :)
23:11:59 <gluxon> It'll be much faster than SF.net, that's the advantage, since my server is usually empty :P
23:12:07 <pa_5805> yes I understand
23:12:15 <gluxon> :)
23:12:43 <pa_5805> and you have a site?
23:13:00 <gluxon> Yeah :)
23:13:15 <pa_5805> may I see it?
23:13:30 <gluxon> Wait, really? :D
23:13:33 <gluxon> http://gluxon.tk/
23:13:50 <pa_5805> what you mean?
23:13:59 <gluxon> Nobody ever wants to see it :P
23:14:25 <gluxon> So, need anything now? :D
23:14:30 <pa_5805> oh yes
23:14:45 <pa_5805> :D
23:15:01 <pa_5805> yes
23:15:07 <pa_5805> ff 3.6
23:15:09 <pa_5805> can you?
23:15:20 <gluxon> Yep :D
23:17:03 <gluxon> Done :)
23:17:04 <gluxon> http://www.bensawsome.com/downloads/store/users/gluxon/Mirrors/FirefoxPortable_3.6_English.paf.exe
23:17:25 <Bensawsome> >_>
23:17:30 <Bensawsome> lol
23:17:53 <pa_5805> it si really wonderfull
23:18:37 <gluxon> Bensawsome: I know, I was going to go with ftp.gluxon.tk, but then I remembered you had unlimited bandwidth :P
23:18:48 <Bensawsome> also dude
23:18:54 <Bensawsome> dont give the direct lkink
23:18:55 <Bensawsome> and wait
23:18:57 <Bensawsome> err
23:18:59 <Bensawsome> lol
23:19:11 <gluxon> Why not? :P
23:19:22 <Gizmokid2005> Bensawsome: gluxon - take it to PM
23:22:27 <pa_5805> thnaks gluxon
23:22:30 <gluxon> :)
23:22:34 <gluxon> Anything elase?
23:22:53 <pa_5805> your health!
23:22:55 <pa_5805> :)
23:23:05 <pa_5805> just be fine
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23:23:29 <gluxon> lol! :P
23:24:27 <pa_5805> http://inspiration.ir
23:24:33 <pa_5805> it is my site
23:24:47 <pa_5805> coming soon
23:24:49 <gluxon> pa_5805: Okay, I found a mirror of PortableApps.com
23:24:50 <gluxon> http://mirror.unej.ac.id/mirrors/portable/
23:25:06 <gluxon> It looks like that site is pretty updated.
23:25:14 <gluxon> See all the apps released there :)
23:25:25 <gluxon> But if the app you need isn't there, just ask MaienM or me :D
23:26:02 <pa_5805> and is this mirrors safe?
23:26:21 <gluxon> It looks like it.
23:26:35 <OliverK|School> pa_5805: sure
23:26:43 <OliverK|School> check the md5 to be sure :)
23:26:51 <pa_5805> how
23:26:59 <pa_5805> I can not check it
23:27:24 <gluxon> ?
23:27:31 <OliverK|School> http://portableapps.com/node/19346
23:27:40 <OliverK|School> use that. the md5 sum is listed under the download
23:28:04 <gluxon> OliverK|School: He can't compare, remember?
23:28:19 <computerfreaker> gluxon: he can, now that he has md5hash
23:28:44 <gluxon> computerfreaker: Yeah, but he can't get the original package from SF.net if he's blocked! :P
23:28:48 <gluxon> Thus, he can't check :P
23:28:58 <OliverK|School> gluxon: forum link
23:29:04 <OliverK|School> .title
23:29:05 <GizmoBot> OliverK|School: md5hash 1.0.3.5 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives
23:29:08 <OliverK|School> :)
23:29:11 <OliverK|School> from wriathdu
23:29:19 <OliverK|School> he downloads installs that
23:29:26 <OliverK|School> downloads ffp
23:29:34 <OliverK|School> drag and drop on tothe md5hash window
23:29:39 <computerfreaker> pa_5805: on each PortableApps.com release page, there's a md5 sum shown. Download the app you're looking for, get the md5 of the app using md5hash, and make sure the md5 on the release page is the same md5 you get from md5hash
23:29:45 <pa_5805> and now what shuild i do?
23:29:48 <OliverK|School> comapre that md5 with the one listed on ffp homepage
23:29:58 <gluxon> pa_5805: Yep, you can trust it. I just checked, the MD5's match :)
23:30:06 <gluxon> So it's the EXACT same file.
23:30:13 <OliverK|School> http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable#download_details
23:31:18 <pa_5805> and again thanks
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23:33:25 <gallaxy67> and id am here again
23:33:33 <gallaxy67> gluxon
23:33:47 <gallaxy67> I am who comes from iran
23:34:13 <gluxon> :P
23:34:38 <gallaxy67> my nickname here will be gallaxy67
23:34:46 <gallaxy67> my nickname over the web
23:34:55 <OliverK|School> k
23:34:59 <gallaxy67> you can google me by my nick name
23:35:04 <OliverK|School> make sure you register with nickserv :)
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23:35:14 <OliverK|School> so none steals it here on freenode
23:35:51 <gallaxy67> where can I regeister?
23:35:59 <gluxon> Type in this.
23:36:05 <gluxon> /msg NickServ REGISTER
23:36:17 <gluxon> It'll give you directions on Registering :)
23:40:16 <gallaxy67> thanks
23:40:36 <gallaxy67> it registred
23:41:03 <JohnTHaller> and back...
23:41:11 <computerfreaker> Hi JohnTHaller!
23:41:35 <gluxon> Hi John :)
23:43:07 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: LiberKey removed my comment about it being illegal. :P
23:43:18 <MaienM> surprise surprise ;)
23:43:19 <gluxon> But I took a screenshot :P
23:43:52 <gluxon> MaienM: They commented to everything except the thing about GPL, meaning they absoulutely know what they're doing is wrong.
23:43:53 <OliverK|School> howdy JohnTHaller
23:44:04 <computerfreaker> now what, I wonder? "Zey doctored zeir schreenshotts!!" 9_9
23:44:05 <OliverK|School> lols
23:44:57 <gallaxy67> hey guys
23:45:13 <gallaxy67> I installed ff 3 on my usb flash
23:45:51 <gluxon> Yay! :)
23:45:54 <gallaxy67> but it seems ff 3 is slower and more unstable than ff 2
23:45:58 <gallaxy67> is it teu?
23:46:22 <gallaxy67> when I see more pages
23:46:31 <gallaxy67> ff 2 is very faster than 3
23:46:32 <OliverK|School> yeah
23:47:08 <gallaxy67> portable version
23:47:29 <JohnTHaller> FF2 writes to the disk less than FF3. So FF3 is slower on flash drives.
23:47:30 <gallaxy67> but orginal ff3 is very faster than 2
23:47:41 <JohnTHaller> The solution is to get a faster flash drive or disable stuff.
23:47:52 <JohnTHaller> FF3 is faster than FF2 on a hard drive.
23:48:27 <gallaxy67> my flash drive was kingston 1 gig
23:48:37 <gluxon> http://gluxon.tk/images/LiberKey.png
23:48:39 <gallaxy67> but now is silicon power 2 gig
23:48:45 <JohnTHaller> gluxon: Not surprising. Liberkey generally removes any content critical of them. Opendev knows full well the GPL violations he's done. And the fact that he is illegally repackaging Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Teamviewer, etc.
23:49:17 <gluxon> I thought so. But now we have proof :P
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23:50:57 <Everest> can anyone provide help here ?
23:51:08 <JohnTHaller> Sure, what do you need Everest
23:51:08 <Everest> I have a Question..
23:51:25 <Everest> why Chrome isn't updated as portable app
23:51:31 <JohnTHaller> It's in testing.
23:51:37 <Everest> nooo
23:51:37 <gluxon> Everest: Our Developer is working on it ;)
23:51:39 <JohnTHaller> Here: http://portableapps.com/node/22324
23:51:47 <Everest> version 4 is stable now
23:51:56 <JohnTHaller> No, I mean the portable package is in testing.
23:52:27 <Everest> oh, I see
23:52:30 <JohnTHaller> 4.0 is a major upgrade, so we test the portable package for several days after the actual Google Chrome is released. We don't just throw it out there without fully testing it :-)
23:52:49 <gluxon> Everest: The Portable version is still in testing, Google Chrome 4.0 introduces some new features that affect Portability.
23:53:00 <Everest> so how do I update it after it's released
23:53:10 <Everest> the auto update doesn't work :(
23:53:41 <JohnTHaller> Just download the new one from us and install over it. You can always do in-place upgrades with apps in PortableApps.com FOrmat.
23:53:58 <Everest> that's great.
23:54:57 <Everest> I'm downloading Firefox 3.6 now, I may keep it if I like it.
23:55:12 <JohnTHaller> And if you wait a few weeks, the PA.c Platform will have an updater built in that will update all your apps for you :-)
23:55:38 <Everest> does portable Firefox auto update?
23:55:54 <Everest> that would be awesome :)
23:56:24 <Everest> so does portable Firefox auto update atm ?
23:56:36 <JohnTHaller> It's set to notify you but not do it automatically (since updates take a little longer on flash drives). We make that change with Mozilla's permission. But you can download updates and apply them in Firefox without major issue.
23:57:00 <JohnTHaller> It will leave a couple non-personal files behind on the local PC. I think only a single empty directory at this point.
23:58:27 <Everest> thank you JohnTHaller , have a nice day ;)
23:59:47 <JohnTHaller> You, too, Everest :-)