00:00:26 merry christmas ZachThibeau! :D 00:00:37 Merry Chrismas to all Christians, Atheists, Agnostics, or whatever your affiliation is. 00:01:16 Hmm, I've been spelling Christmas wrong and pasting it into four channels now. Whoops! Either way... 00:01:34 *** kai_62656 has quit ("Leaving.") 00:01:52 Havvy: nice job :P 00:01:55 lol it's ok Havvy :P 00:02:05 everyone must have felt too bad to say anything ;) 00:03:20 :P 00:06:55 excid3: here is a new style that I'm working on with ptmb http://zachthibeau.com/testsite/ :P site layout by me and coding done by ptmb now I have done some fixes (trying to get it to wrap on different screen resolutions but ptmb css is a little messy :/) 00:11:02 excid3: you there? 00:11:10 :/ 00:12:23 damn it's quiet here :/ 00:14:03 I know :P 00:14:10 :P 00:14:22 Okay I'm almost done with the app!!! 00:14:26 WOO WOO. 00:14:31 btw I saw your site... it needs a template desparetly 00:14:33 Making apps are so fun :P 00:17:31 lol 00:17:38 try making applications from scratch :P 00:17:46 like C coding :D 00:18:23 okay, I got this far. 00:18:39 I'm going to have the app delete the wallpaper key. 00:18:50 value not key gluxon!!! 00:19:07 And make a new vaule. 00:19:16 But I don't know what type of value. 00:19:22 The choices are... 00:19:33 REG_SZ (e.g. String #1) same as WriteRegStr 00:19:33 REG_EXPAND_SZ (e.g. %WINDIR%\notepad.exe) same as WriteRegExpandStr 00:19:33 REG_MULTI_SZ (e.g. First$\nSecond$\nThird) 00:19:33 REG_DWORD (e.g. 1234567890) same as WriteRegDWORD 00:19:33 REG_DWORD_BIG_ENDIAN (e.g. 1234567890) 00:19:33 REG_BINARY (e.g. 591B0000451F) same as WriteRegBin 00:19:35 REG_NONE (e.g. 591B0000451F) 00:19:37 REG_LINK (e.g. 591B0000451F) 00:19:39 REG_RESOURCE_LIST (e.g. 591B0000451F) 00:19:41 REG_FULL_RESOURCE_DESCRIPTOR (e.g. 591B0000451F) 00:19:43 REG_RESOURCE_REQUIREMENTS_LIST (e.g. 591B0000451F) 00:19:45 REG_QWORD (e.g. 591B0000451F) 00:19:49 ... 00:19:51 I didn't think it would be that long... 00:20:12 ZachThibeau: Anyway, what type should I make it? 00:20:29 ping me when you're ready to tell me!!! :P 00:20:31 gluxon: please use pastebin.com 00:20:48 makes things easier to read 00:21:18 and use 7-ZipPortable as a guide for registry changes 00:21:23 oh yeah, pastebin!!! 00:21:32 I fogot about that :P 00:22:11 ZachThibeau: sorry im back now, i was just making an archive of Keryx for win32 :D 00:22:28 excid3: did you see my test site layout :D 00:22:47 just looking at it right now, i love that style :D 00:22:52 *** LOGAN has quit ("Leaving.") 00:22:52 simplicity :D 00:23:13 :D 00:23:49 if only you could spell "Buch of stuff" 00:24:00 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 00:24:30 * rmccue waves 00:24:50 * excid3 tries to wave but hits his hand on the ceiling 00:25:14 excid3: Try coming out of the closet 00:25:29 i prefer to stay inside :P 00:25:42 i have to admit, that was a good burn rmccue :P 00:26:27 Heh. 00:26:30 howdy rmccue :D 00:26:53 Hola senor. 00:27:08 Hola Senorita 00:27:10 :P 00:27:19 now thats a burn 00:27:44 It's almost DONE!!!! 00:27:49 HORRAY!!! 00:33:49 yay? 00:35:13 ZachThibeau: did anyone ever respond to my comment on that windows updates downloader thing? 00:35:20 dunno 00:35:23 ive checked a few times but i didnt see any replies 00:35:23 didn't check 00:37:06 "Need a last minute gift?" <- at the top of amazon's website...now those are real procrastinators ;) 00:37:59 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 00:38:06 Last minute? It's Boxing Day! :P 00:38:08 .t 00:38:08 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:01:33 AEST 00:38:14 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:38:14 :P 00:38:26 why hello ZachThibeau, long time no see :P 00:38:44 wow xchat fail :O cleared my log it did and quit 00:38:48 *** rmccue is now known as rmccue|coding 00:39:03 actually it's windows :O 00:39:08 need to reboot brbr 00:39:22 kk :P 00:39:32 who could guess windows has issues? 00:39:37 actually it seemed to fix it self :/ 00:39:38 The App is ready to compile!!! 00:39:51 Cross your fingers that there won't be errors! 00:40:01 * excid3 crosses fingers AND toes 00:40:22 gluxon: we don't neccessarily need your commentary on your app every time :P but yeah hope it works for you 00:41:01 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:41:06 Bye? 00:44:24 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:47:38 excid3: yeah reboot needed :P 00:47:49 ;) 00:48:05 if its on for more than 4 consecutive hours...its almost a requirement :P 00:51:24 excid3: this is the first time really :P I ran this laptop for 4 days straight without reboot and it ran fine till today :D 00:52:03 not bad actually 00:52:15 my computers are on 24/7 ;) 00:52:19 I think so :) 00:52:30 don't run into issues like that cuz they run real operating systems 00:53:27 excid3: I do that for my desktop server :P 00:54:10 :P 00:55:26 ZachThibeau: you have ubuntu installed? 00:55:37 Linux Mint :P Ubuntu based :D 00:55:49 can you cat /etc/issue.net ? 00:56:05 dunno don't have my server with me :/ 00:56:10 ah 00:56:14 can you SSH to it? 00:56:47 nope in my dorm I had to disconnect everything 00:57:05 ah ok 00:57:11 wait nvm, this should work for linux mint 00:57:13 yeah 00:57:16 :D 00:57:49 if u dont mind, when you can, could you test Keryx out for me? ive got a win32 binary built and need some testers :D 00:58:08 sure 00:58:53 just got the windows exe built today 00:58:57 :D 00:59:21 working on a debian package for it as well, might be submitting it to the Ubuntu repositories as well, just want to get some extra testing on it done first 01:00:06 excid3: I have the time right now :D 01:00:16 send it right over :D 01:00:23 ok :D 01:00:36 im going to upload the archive onto my forums and ill send you the link 01:00:39 :P 01:01:24 ill be creating a PA launcher later tonight as well :D 01:01:47 D: 01:01:53 I was going to :P 01:02:06 well it's your app :P 01:02:29 you can do it if you want, there literally is nothing to do but launch it though :P 01:02:34 :D 01:02:36 ok :D 01:02:38 i dont have any config files yet :P 01:02:42 lol 01:02:51 going to start adding that stuff later ;) 01:02:55 kk 01:03:51 ill make sure to make it extremely complicated for you to make a launcher later on ;) 01:03:55 lol 01:04:26 don't make it too complicated :P 01:04:48 its gonna require you to uninstall windows and install ubuntu :P 01:04:52 do stuff like lamer does with pnotes by allowing something like command line paramerters 01:05:12 I don't think users would like that too much :P 01:05:40 yeah im going to do that, stuff like specifying the config file, etc 01:05:43 the usual 01:05:52 right now i couldnt even think of any options to add :P 01:06:04 :P 01:06:13 ok is the binary almost ready? 01:06:23 ... 01:06:25 i thought it was 01:06:30 :/ 01:06:46 but guess what, The connection was reset while the page was loading. 01:07:17 ouch :/ 01:07:23 u know the issue *might* be that im going over the file size limit on my forums 01:07:35 nope...10240kb max and this is 5mb 01:07:39 this is gonna take ages to upload... 01:08:25 doing an FTP upload now 01:08:31 28 minutes remaining 01:08:33 lmao 01:09:34 * rmccue|coding is transferring photos from camera to PC. 01:12:31 excid3: dialup right? 01:14:06 yeah 01:14:37 fun fun 01:14:40 lol 01:14:44 D: 01:14:44 i need to get some screenshots up of this latest version :P 01:14:47 :P 01:15:03 well ill be back in 30 mins or so 01:15:03 don't upload until your done ;) might time you out :P 01:15:12 yeah hahaha 01:15:20 ttyl 01:15:21 *** excid3 is now known as excid3|random 01:15:27 bbl 01:41:10 ZachThibeau: http://keryx.betaserver.org/src/keryx-0.9-release.tar.bz2 :D 01:41:16 *** excid3|random is now known as excid3 01:41:25 :D 01:41:34 gotta go now though, watching the Untouchables with my dad :D 01:41:51 you can post your results here for me http://keryx.betaserver.org/forum/index.php/topic,23.msg137.html#msg137 01:42:10 thanks so much for testing :D 01:43:27 bye 01:43:28 *** excid3 has quit ("Leaving.") 01:43:45 *** alpha1beta (n=Michael_@unaffiliated/alpha1beta) has joined #portableapps 01:43:59 hello and Merry Christmas all 01:44:16 Merry Christmas alpha1beta, though you're a day behind :P 01:44:32 no, your just a freak from the future 01:44:50 :P 01:45:08 are there flying cars yet? 01:45:59 No. 01:46:04 Ask again in the future. 01:46:26 are there flying cars yet? 01:47:09 I mean, when you're in the future. 01:47:17 :D 01:47:33 so Mir I am :D 01:47:43 to* 01:56:07 alpha1beta: :D 01:56:44 alpha1beta: ptmb and I are making a site layout with my design I made :D http://zachthibeau.com/testsite/ 02:00:28 pretty sweet 02:00:47 for WP? 02:01:09 *** upnPAD|2 (n=upnPAD@124.184.12.15) has joined #portableapps 02:01:19 wow upnPAD is named for once :P 02:01:30 :P 02:01:40 alpha1beta: not wordpress yet but soon :P 02:01:59 *** purple (n=purple@80.74.161.20) has joined #portableapps 02:02:05 howdy purple :D 02:02:14 cant sleap 02:02:27 swallowed a nice tiny sleeping pill 02:02:38 waiting to start working :) 02:02:40 lol nice, and hi purple 02:02:51 hi all 02:03:07 why'd i dc :s 02:04:26 ZachThibeau, whats ur time? 02:04:34 .t AST 02:04:35 Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:28:01 AST 02:04:36 3:27AM here :\ 02:04:45 10:27am :D 02:04:49 oh 02:04:52 USA? 02:04:54 Canada 02:05:03 oh x2 02:05:07 double Oh 02:05:11 :O 02:05:14 :P 02:05:23 O' Canada... 02:05:41 :O Cana:Da 02:05:58 :/ 02:06:04 >:/ 02:06:23 oh crap, this really starting to blast my ass off :\ 02:06:32 i'll sleep in a few minutes i hope 02:07:09 viva la sleepy-deepy pills :) 02:08:12 anyone recommend some TV viewing app which doesnt suck at GUI 02:08:38 MediaPortal 02:08:41 myth Tv\ 02:09:27 mediaportal is a whole bloatware 02:09:38 and its media center 02:09:43 something minimalistic pls 02:09:50 windows or linux? 02:10:08 xp 02:10:29 you got a hauppague Tuner? 02:11:58 no, ASSus TV/FM SAA7135 02:12:06 ..with phillips chipset ;| 02:12:40 tversity? 02:13:01 Miro sucks at GUI? 02:13:20 miro? 02:14:04 I think he means real Tv, as in a tuner, not internet tv 02:14:06 NO it doesn't!!! 02:15:02 xbox media center? idk if that works or not 02:15:20 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:15:23 :| 02:16:05 what tversity is? 02:17:35 oh shit, im stone, went to sleep, cyas tomorrow ;\ 02:17:37 zya 02:17:40 *** purple has quit ("Laterz..") 02:17:58 The Torrent Episode Downloader is great for finding shows. 02:18:53 *** upnPAD has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:22:49 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-71-234-101-126.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:22:49 gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!! 02:33:29 *** PatrickPatience has quit (Nick collision from services.) 02:33:34 *** PatrickPatience1 (n=Patrick@24.114.233.1) has joined #portableapps 02:33:48 *** PatrickPatience1 is now known as PatrickPatience 02:35:22 rmccue|coding: Wanna unban me from #portableapps-meta? 02:35:27 ha 02:35:28 I don't know how that happened again. 02:35:32 PatrickPatience: You're banned? :P 02:36:08 alpha1beta: :D 02:36:17 PatrickPatience: It's because you rejoined as PatrickPatience1 02:36:21 merry christmas diibs 02:36:23 I gotta wii! :D 02:36:30 diib: Eww. 02:36:31 with like 7 games. :D 02:36:40 PS3 > all 02:36:43 I don't like the wii 02:36:50 rmccue|coding: It' schristmas shut your pipes. :P 02:36:56 Mario Galaxy is a pretty good game for the wii also Twilight Princess too :) 02:36:56 fail! :D 02:37:00 but you can use the wiimote on your computer, via bluetooth 02:37:09 diib: Not for 11 hours it isn't :P 02:37:10 alpha1beta: I got the wii on the wifi 02:37:29 yea, but the wiimote is bluetooth 02:37:29 i just got to get opera.... err hacz... 02:37:47 if you have a bluetooth pc, you can use the wiimote as a joystick 02:39:17 wiili.org check it out diibs 02:39:20 Or, even better, use it for motion tracking like Johnny Lee has demonstrated. 02:39:42 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/ 02:41:58 ??? 02:42:08 You can use the wii romote on you computer? 02:42:14 yep 02:42:17 yea... 02:42:19 :/ 02:42:25 wiili.org 03:02:52 So, what did everyone get? 03:04:18 ryan 03:04:32 s eternal grace 03:04:42 and praise :P 03:07:05 Ha! 03:07:21 * rmccue|coding is uploading pictures from his new camera to his website right now 03:07:36 ohh we finally get to see that thing you call a face? :P 03:10:40 Haha, I doubt that. 03:10:49 And honestly, you don't want to. 03:11:03 that bad eh? 03:11:07 I'm paying for music... it's intense. 03:13:01 okay this is weird... 03:13:27 alpha1beta: No, I'm only uploading photos of the scenery. 03:13:46 alpha1beta: All the other ones are staying on my computer for now :P 03:14:13 good we didn't,scratch that, couldn't stand to look at the others 03:15:27 my brothers all have computers with webcams now, and gmail, which I set up with the plugin, so they've been calling each other and stuff with the webcams, it's rather scary..just when you thought they could never get any uglier... 03:16:38 I have a webcam, but I leave it unplugged unless I'm using it. 03:16:57 I also have a microphone on this headset, but turn it off while I'm not using it. 03:17:05 oh, these are all built in 03:17:29 they got 2 nice Hp 15.6" laptops 03:28:59 :D done my template 03:28:59 http://zachthibeau.com/testsite/ 03:32:28 ZachThibeau: Are you using a web server or a web hoster for that sie? 03:32:28 ZachThibeau: It sucks. 03:32:52 gluxon: you can't have a web server without a web hoster 03:33:00 Really? 03:33:04 yes 03:33:06 :( 03:33:20 the web hoster provides the server 03:33:22 I have a lot to learn... :-/ 03:33:30 if you don't have a webhost you get a ID10T error :P 03:33:45 Not all web hosters support apache do they... 03:33:46 And also, you can't have a web host without a web server. 03:33:59 gluxon: There are other servers. 03:34:21 ZachThibeau: What language is your site in!!! 03:34:31 rmccue|coding: you don't understand beauty :P 03:34:42 ZachThibeau: Yes, I do. 03:34:58 gluxon: this template is html but going to be in php soon as I am going to turn it into a wordpress theme for my site :) 03:35:04 ZachThibeau: Tone the scan lines down a bit. 03:35:12 rmccue|coding: design ;) 03:35:15 ZachThibeau: Give the titles more padding. 03:35:17 Still!!! Are you going to tell me what language it's in/ 03:35:26 gluxon: read what I said I just told you 03:35:31 ZachThibeau: Add padding to the content too. 03:35:37 ZachThibeau: Remove rounded corners. 03:35:44 screw you rmccue|coding 03:35:45 :P 03:35:51 I love my rounded corners 03:36:19 ZachThibeau: Tone down the background, make it washed out; it has too much contrast at the moment and conflicts with the other elements. 03:36:36 ZachThibeau: You're trying to get people to focus on your content, not on the background. 03:37:49 anyways I need sleep 03:37:52 night all 03:37:53 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 03:37:58 night Zach, cool theme 03:38:03 Pshh. 03:38:14 He understands nothing about colour and design theory. 03:38:38 and you do? 03:38:46 your site is fulgy 03:38:52 I'm aware. 03:39:09 I've got a redesign coming at some point. 03:39:17 this year? 03:39:21 But, unlike Zach, I actually read books on design theory. 03:39:38 alpha1beta: http://cubegames.net/new_index.html is the framework. 03:39:57 I took a class on graphic (mostly website) design (ideas mostly) 03:40:11 If it's mostly ideas, then it's theory :P 03:40:32 We don't do enough theory in Visual Arts at school, so I buy books. 03:40:55 no, it's supposed to be a real class, but the teacher was an idiot 03:41:02 Haha. 03:41:27 needs some color but the new site isn't half bad 03:42:50 I'm thinking of using the background colour off http://cubegames.net/journal/ on there too. 03:43:10 rmccue|coding: your are picky!!! 03:43:26 (That's a theme test blog, FYI, so there's no content) 03:43:29 gluxon: :P 03:43:43 gluxon: It's just that there was a lot wrong with it :D 03:44:10 Final picture uploading now. Score! 03:44:21 that's kinda cool 03:44:33 simpleistic, minimal, but still cool 03:46:06 I just reminded myself, I was planning to buy another book. 03:46:10 * rmccue|coding attempts to find 03:49:01 *** gluxon has quit ("Leaving.") 04:11:15 you get anything cool rmccue? 04:21:03 *** Neoman has quit ("Later!") 04:43:43 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 04:54:09 *** alpha1beta has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:00:24 Good night everyone. 05:04:17 *** Havvy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05:10:38 Hmm, I probably should have compressed these photos. 05:10:47 Well, anyway: http://cubegames.net/blog/2008/12/26/merry-christmas/ 05:13:22 *** Havvy (i=47c19c2d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8a5213401c481914) has joined #portableapps 05:13:53 rmccue|coding: Where's the kangaroos? 05:14:02 PatrickPatience: Get out. 05:18:07 Out hooouse had the biggest patio. 05:18:42 Wow, horrible typo. 05:18:50 :O 05:19:00 *OUR 05:19:43 PatrickPatience: what do you think of my wordpress theme in progress :D 05:19:45 http://zachthibeau.com/testsite/ 05:20:51 Can I be honest? 05:21:00 I don't like it. :P Mainly the header. 05:21:09 PatrickPatience: I was brutally honest. 05:21:28 yes he was as bad as his taste in design is (considering his blog theme :P) 05:22:02 I love his blog design. :P 05:22:13 It's unique... it's not some sexy blog... but it's pretty cool. 05:22:19 Nice homepage setup as well. 05:22:39 unique it is but not what I would say as attractive for me 05:25:03 I has a new host :D for $1 I got 15 gigs of space, Unmetered Bandwidth and unlimited features such as mysql Databases :D 05:25:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlftPwH2YW8 05:26:06 rmccue|coding: That's hot you got your campera? 05:26:12 *camera 05:26:50 ROFL Campera :P nice one PatrickPatience 05:26:58 PatrickPatience: Camera is teh rule. 05:27:16 rmccue|coding: :) picture resolution looks very nice :) 05:27:35 ZachThibeau: Each photo is more than 2MB :P 05:27:51 rmccue|coding: thats nothing :P mine is about 5 megs :D 05:28:02 The res is 3264 x 2448 px 05:28:39 hold on going to check my camera rez again as I forgot what it is :P 05:28:51 I have the manual :P 05:29:07 mine is about 1 year old :P 05:29:16 Heh. 05:30:03 Oh, it's your bi-yearly blog post. 05:30:37 mine is 2569x1920 05:30:51 but high quality 5 mega pixel camera I have though :) 05:32:00 PatrickPatience: stfu 05:32:03 Mmm... 9 megapixel. 05:32:05 ZachThibeau: Mines an 8.1 :) 05:32:09 :O 05:32:16 the holy grail 05:33:27 wow windows live messenger beta fail :/ 05:34:02 I sign in and then it signs me out 5 seconds flat at least 20 times now :O 05:34:12 I want: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10101552&catid=11719&logon=&langid=EN 05:34:17 * ZachThibeau reports bug to Micro$oft 05:34:28 ZachThibeau: Ewww, WLM? 05:34:49 PatrickPatience: testing :P the new beta has some nice features like making your own animated avatar :D 05:35:07 I think I may get it. 05:35:15 The camera, not WLM. 05:35:19 lol :P 05:36:24 I personally want a Nikon SLR 05:36:31 Nevermind, I want this: http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10116851&logon=&langid=EN 05:36:37 I have 160 for Best Buy. 05:37:00 http://www.nikon.ca/en/Product.aspx?m=17040 05:39:24 Hmm... snazzy. 05:39:26 Ihttp://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10116846&catid=26555&logon=&langid=EN 05:39:28 http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10116846&catid=26555&logon=&langid=EN 05:39:39 I was gonna get an external HD, but a camera is tempting. 05:39:47 As the iPhone camera sucks. 05:47:59 *** ChrisMorgan (i=7aa9dd2c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ddb00942af059e17) has joined #portableapps 05:48:00 ChrisMorgan is an #portableapps op and a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more and is away from home in other countries - he must have found an internet connection! :-) 05:49:22 ChrisMorgan! 05:49:31 rmccue|coding! 05:49:41 Merry Boxing Day! 05:49:52 Watching some cricket? 05:54:16 Nope, listening :P 05:55:11 :P 06:01:46 howdy ChrisMorgan :D 06:03:08 howdy ZachThibeau :D 06:03:35 ChrisMorgan: I just noticed something :P we have the same amount of Characters in our nick XD 06:07:09 * ChrisMorgan calls the funny farm... 06:09:04 :/ 06:09:13 crap and I just escaped from there 06:09:16 :P 06:09:24 ohh goodness :X 06:09:28 sorry ChrisMorgan 06:09:41 * ZachThibeau slaps himself on the wrist 06:12:29 There... http://bpbible.com/node/50#comment-33 06:13:08 Now to test a nifty menu alias I just created for Mibbit... 06:13:10 Hello, ZachThibeau! How can we help you today? 06:13:16 :-) 06:13:24 :P 06:13:32 Hello, Havvy! How can we help you today? 06:13:38 :D 06:14:15 Umm, oh, an alias. 06:14:26 :D 06:14:31 Menu item, anyway 06:17:16 Traceback (most recent call last): 06:17:16 File "conscience.py", line OverflowError, in check_is_ok 06:17:16 ConscienceError: Aliases 06:17:20 * ZachThibeau is jaming to Hillsong United :D 06:17:21 (I got that with /conscience Aliases are good.... aren't they!) 06:17:27 Whoops... $1-, not $1 06:17:45 Traceback (most recent call last): 06:17:45 File "conscience.py", line OverflowError, in check_is_ok 06:17:45 ConscienceError: Aliases are good.... aren't they! 06:18:06 line OverflowError :D 06:20:18 *** PatrickPatience has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06:21:10 *** PatrickPatience (n=Patrick@unaffiliated/patrickpatience) has joined #portableapps 06:21:11 PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com) 06:28:05 AroraPortable Dev Test 1 released for testing :D http://portableapps.com/node/17334 06:28:26 Which reminds me... who's tested Inkscape Portable? 06:28:28 rmccue|coding: you should like this :P by default it has xkcd bookmarked :P 06:28:28 :D 06:29:01 ZachThibeau: what is Arora? 06:29:04 ChrisMorgan: uhmmm... once but I was never really an inkscape fan so I didn't use it after :/ 06:29:32 ChrisMorgan: Arora is a web browser using QTWebkit and it's decent small and only 10 000 lines of code :D 06:29:40 Size? 06:29:49 21.9megs installed 06:29:59 I would compress but it breaks the app 06:30:17 hmm... 06:30:21 kind of has a firefox look to it :P 06:30:31 ZachThibeau: Your link has .org.org :P 06:30:38 oops :/ 06:30:44 ChrisMorgan: Watching the sailing? :D 06:30:59 fixed :P 06:31:10 rmccue|coding: huh? 06:31:18 ChrisMorgan: Sydney to Hobart. 06:32:03 http://i25.tinypic.com/2z8dlpv.png :/ 06:32:12 Arora logo... :/ 06:32:19 rmccue|coding: no! 06:32:21 ChrisMorgan: I think it's sleeping :P 06:32:23 Why would I? 06:32:31 Why wouldn't you? 06:33:00 ChrisMorgan: yup thats the logo 06:33:04 ZachThibeau: have you asked anyone in #arora why it won't compress? 06:33:43 ChrisMorgan: not yet will tomorrow :P and I think it's with most qt based apps that don't like being compressed with upx 06:33:53 Hmm... 06:34:05 Qt apps should compress. 06:34:14 I remember Pencil did. 06:34:49 rmccue|coding: remember what settings you used? 06:34:49 And a Google search for Qt UPX doesn't scream "IT DON'T WORK!" at me ;-) 06:35:00 ZachThibeau: App Compactor 1.0? 06:35:15 ChrisMorgan: It was before that time. 06:35:17 ChrisMorgan: thats what I used and it wouldn't launch after it was compressed 06:35:20 ZachThibeau: No idea. 06:35:30 Should be NRV2E... if that doesn't work, try it *without* recompressing JARs and ZIPs. 06:35:46 rmccue|coding: I know... I was asking him 06:36:16 ChrisMorgan: Thats what I did... 06:36:44 Hmm... have you tried keeping the UPX window open and looking for any telltales? 06:36:53 *** PatrickPatience has quit (Nick collision from services.) 06:36:58 *** PatrickPatience1 (n=Patrick@24.114.233.2) has joined #portableapps 06:37:12 *** PatrickPatience1 is now known as PatrickPatience 06:37:45 ChrisMorgan: yes I have. I may try using strip and see if that will work too 06:38:05 ChrisMorgan: I mean it compresses fine without errors just won't launch :S 06:38:19 I find with apps like UPX that use coloUring (;-)) it can be easier to sort through then 06:38:28 Sometimes it'll break something, and tell you so. 06:39:04 Sometimes a directory listing of files only will be different afterwards (e.g. file killed off) 06:39:08 I know UPX 101 06:39:50 Ha ha... well I did UPX 102 ;-) :P 06:39:52 huh I just upx'd it again and it's working :/ 06:40:00 odd... 06:40:05 Good! 06:40:06 must be my computer 06:40:15 Time for Arora Portable DT2 :-) 06:40:23 :P 06:40:25 Preferably Arora Portable, rather than AroraPortable 06:40:40 nahh I'll keep it as Dev Test 1 ;) 06:41:05 Or to do it someone's way, DT 1½... :/ 06:41:09 I reckon that it's a major change. I vote DT2. 06:41:21 And also renaming it from AroraPortable to Arora Portable. 06:41:28 it's not really a major change really :/ 06:41:41 at least for me 06:41:49 How big is it, installed? 06:41:58 compressed? 06:42:08 yes 06:42:09 8.7megs 06:42:22 How big was it, installed? 21.9MB. 06:42:25 What's the difference? 06:42:30 .calc 21.9 - 8.7 06:42:30 :P 06:42:32 21.9 - 8.7 = 13.2 06:42:35 :D 06:42:43 ChrisMorgan: your lazy :P 06:42:44 .calc 8.7 / 21.9 06:42:46 8.7 / 21.9 = 0.39726 06:42:59 So, it's down to under 40% of the size... good! :-) 06:43:34 I reckon it warrants DT2... makes it seem more mature... so long as people don't read the release notes ;-) 06:44:50 lol 06:45:00 well I'll do it anyway against what I think 06:45:19 * ChrisMorgan shrugs 06:45:30 It's a change. That's why I reckon it should get a bump. 06:47:42 updated :) 06:47:57 anybody willing to give it a whirl? 06:48:11 oo... you can upload fast! 06:48:23 :P 06:48:30 it isn't a big file mate 06:49:12 uh... http://zachthibeau.com/portableapps/Arora_Portable_4.5.paf.exe ? 06:49:17 ? 06:49:25 Shouldn't that be Arora_Portable_4.5_Development_Test_2.paf.exe ? 06:49:26 I thought I updated the file in the post 06:49:40 h/o 06:49:50 I'm not seeing any update to the page 06:49:51 h/o? 06:50:28 h/o means hold on 06:50:36 ok updated :) 06:50:42 http://portableapps.com/node/17334 06:50:43 Now update the link text to DT2 (still says DT1) 06:51:15 That should really be *_DevELOPMENT_Test_N.paf.exe... look in the official (draft) specs 06:51:25 ah well... I'll download it anyway :P 06:51:42 ChrisMorgan: refresh it doesn't say DT1 it says Development Test 2 06:51:46 Report back in maybe an hour or so? Depends on how the connection is... it'll be slow however it is. 06:52:40 sure :) 06:53:07 Lunch now... maybe it'll be done when I get back 06:53:28 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|away 06:57:50 *** PatrickPatience has quit (Nick collision from services.) 06:57:54 *** PatrickPatience1 (n=Patrick@dpc6747231200.direcpc.com) has joined #portableapps 06:58:08 *** PatrickPatience1 is now known as PatrickPatience 07:19:39 good grief :/ http://portableapps.com/node/17336 07:32:01 *** ChrisMorgan|away is now known as ChrisMorgan 07:32:16 Not sure what happened... but my download is gone :/ so I try again... 07:33:09 Cn: it /is/ here... I was doing a dir listing on au* rather than ar*... 07:42:29 Mmm. 07:42:50 :/ 07:43:51 ZachThibeau: writing a reply now. 07:44:06 kk 07:45:22 ZachThibeau: where has this 4.5 version number come from? 07:45:30 from the site 07:45:57 Hmm... XP SP2, arora crashed straight off. 07:46:01 :-( 07:46:25 :/ It's running fine with XP SP3 and Vista SP1 and Sp2 Beta 07:46:38 Did you base your thing on Arora Snapshot (10-7-2008) Installer.exe? 07:46:49 (btw, 4.5 is the Qt version - /not/ the Arora version!) 07:47:46 ChrisMorgan: yes and no I know 4.5 is the QT version but the about box says Version 4 I'm guessing the .5 came from the app code I borrowed from :/ 07:48:18 0.4 I think it should be 07:48:53 I don't give a care at the moment :/ it's 4:11am 07:49:34 my time that is 07:49:44 .t ZachThibeau 07:49:44 rmccue|coding: Sorry, I don't know about the 'ZachThibeau' timezone. 07:49:47 :O 07:49:51 .t AST 07:49:52 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:13:21 AST 07:51:57 *** Scriptdaemon (n=KennyW@cpe-98-150-85-231.dc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 07:52:07 morning Scriptdaemon 07:52:08 Hey Scriptdaemon 07:52:24 Scriptdaemon: whats new Kenny :) 07:52:27 It's actually midnight here, but eh, close enough. 07:52:59 Scriptdaemon: when it's midnight then it is morning ;) 07:53:03 Scriptdaemon: uh... 12:13AM for you? 07:53:04 Did you all have a nice holiday? 07:53:17 I got clothes :P 07:53:20 Yes, but I assumed it was later in the morning for you. 07:53:32 Scriptdaemon: for /me/ it is 2:13 PM. 07:53:37 yeah like 07:53:38 .t AST 07:53:39 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:17:08 AST 07:53:45 .t IST 07:53:46 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:47:15 IST 07:53:48 Ah. 07:53:52 :/ 07:53:58 rmccue|coding: one hour out for IST... 07:54:06 pabot on DST or something like that? 07:54:15 .t ChrisMorgan 07:54:16 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:17:45 AEST 07:54:23 Still AEST for me :P 07:54:30 * ChrisMorgan is in India though 07:54:31 I wish I could use my mouse while it was on its recharger. 07:54:47 Wireled MICE FTW :D 07:54:59 wow spelling fail :/ 07:55:07 lol 07:55:38 Wired Mice I meant :P 07:56:29 I wish everything was wireless. I have so many wires behind my desk I don't even know what for anymore. 07:56:32 ChrisMorgan: No, we decided to remove IST all together because it can refer to multiple timezones. 07:56:51 .wik IST 07:56:52 "Ist (band), an English band" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IST 07:57:02 lol 07:57:14 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 07:57:25 :/ 07:57:32 .wik rmccue 07:57:35 Indian Standard Time, Iran Standard Time, Irish Standard Time and Israel Standard Time. 07:57:36 "My name is Ryan McCue, I am 13 and I am a moderator on PortableApps.com." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rmccue 07:57:38 :D 07:57:43 :P 07:57:48 Been a while since I updated that. 07:57:52 lol 07:57:55 .wik thibeaz 07:57:59 Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "thibeaz". 07:58:03 good :) 07:58:15 .wik scriptdaemon 07:58:19 "Interarchy (originally known as Anarchie) is a file transfer application for Mac OS X. It is engineered by Nolobe Pty Ltd." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interarchy 07:58:26 Wtf? 07:58:27 lol 07:58:28 last time I had an account there... there was some unpleasant things sent to me :/ 07:59:12 I mean stuff you wish you didn't have to see at all :/ 07:59:45 The kind of stuff you can't unsee? 08:00:15 stuff that will make you remember that you don't want to remember 08:00:53 so I never logged into my wikipedia account ever again 08:01:04 lol 08:04:31 .wik ZachThibeau 08:04:35 Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "ZachThibeau". 08:04:40 .wik Zach Thibeau 08:04:45 "Article" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_Royals_minor_league_players 08:04:48 :/ 08:05:19 not me at all 08:05:29 .wik PatrickPatience 08:05:32 .wik stfu 08:05:33 "The result of the debate was Speedy Delete as copyvio --Lenticel |(talk)| 02:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_June_24 08:05:35 "Shut The Fuck Up, a vulgar form of Shut up — see Internet slang." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stfu 08:05:38 :D 08:05:46 That's not very g-rated/ 08:05:46 Naughty pabot! :D 08:05:48 .* 08:05:55 .wik WITNO 08:05:59 Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "WITNO". 08:06:05 D: 08:07:56 .wik MaienM 08:08:00 Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "MaienM". 08:14:53 *** Scriptdaemon has quit ("Leaving") 08:30:25 *** ChrisMorgan (i=7aa9dd2c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-be5a8d536800435d) has joined #portableapps 08:30:25 ChrisMorgan is an #portableapps op and a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more and is away from home in other countries - he must have found an internet connection! :-) 08:31:20 personally, I'd say naughty... RMCCUE|CODING! :o 08:33:37 ZachThibeau: My copy of Firefox with my comment in it - mostly finished - was closed for no reason, when I let someone use this computer to check email etc. :-( 08:39:26 * rmccue|coding ? 08:39:34 What did /me do? :P 08:39:53 **** 08:46:17 ChrisMorgan: Please don't use that language in here. :P 08:47:27 PatrickPatience: :o 08:47:35 Have some patience... :P 08:49:52 Heh. 08:56:56 G'night. 08:57:10 *** PatrickPatience has quit ("Peaceout.") 08:57:22 *** upnPAD|3 (n=upnPAD@124.184.12.15) has joined #portableapps 08:58:13 upnPAD|2, upnPAD|3: what's happening with you two? 08:58:24 :s 08:58:32 wow i keep dc'in 08:58:41 maybe cause im connected to a dif router 08:58:49 can upnPAD|2 go? 08:58:56 ya 08:59:01 *** upnPAD|3 is now known as upnPAD 08:59:04 Thanks :-) 08:59:26 * ChrisMorgan got to kick someone, ChrisMorgan got to kick someone... :P 08:59:31 :S 09:00:26 ZachThibeau: wow... Arora Portable (4.5... I think it should be 0.4) is "the portable file archiver", eh? 09:00:27 help.html 09:00:54 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 09:18:20 *** rmccue|coding is now known as rmccue 10:11:42 *** Havvy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10:15:57 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 10:16:26 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:45:26 * MaienM is back 11:12:28 *** Neoman (n=Neoman@41.233.4.21) has joined #portableapps 11:16:14 Hey Neoman 11:29:07 hello there ChrisMorgan 11:29:12 Merry Christmas 11:30:22 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|away 11:38:11 *** joerg (n=joerg@p54889AA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #portableapps 11:38:13 hi 11:40:23 hi joerg 12:32:42 *** ChrisMorgan|away has quit ("mibbit.com: Get BPBible Portable! http://portableapps.com/BPBiblePortable") 12:47:54 *** MaienM has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:49:00 *** MaienM (n=MaienM@5ED09C45.cable.ziggo.nl) has joined #portableapps 12:49:00 MaienM is MaienM, and thats all. He is working on learning C++ atm, and even made a IRC bot in it. Love him or hate him, it's your choice. 12:56:40 *** Neoman has quit ("Later!") 12:57:44 *** upnPAD has quit ("oi na") 13:21:07 *** RetLaw (n=RetLaw@082-146-105-124.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps 13:42:40 *** geoslake (i=52fe2393@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-578a55e01d3c94c2) has joined #portableapps 13:44:42 *** ptmb (n=ptmb@bl6-34-97.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #portableapps 13:44:56 hi 13:45:01 hi 13:45:07 someone fluent in nsis scripting ? 13:45:19 need help 13:45:21 :) 13:47:07 *** pa_9488 (i=5068cdc9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bf42a099cb833836) has joined #portableapps 13:50:29 *** geoslake has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 13:50:40 *** geoslake (i=52fe2393@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1cc7f4c9836c4a30) has joined #portableapps 13:52:55 *** pa_9488 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 13:53:00 *** LOGAN (n=LOGAN@unaffiliated/logan) has joined #portableapps 13:53:00 LOGAN is a person that's crazy over fun portable stuff. 13:57:04 *** geoslake has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 14:09:33 *** joerg has quit (Nick collision from services.) 14:09:46 *** joerg_ (n=joerg@p54889AA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #portableapps 14:10:00 *** joerg (n=joerg@p54889AA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #portableapps 14:11:34 *** rmccue has parted #portableapps ("'I spent the entire day being normal, now that I'm home, I just want to duct tape fuzzy green pipe cleaners to my head, turn ) 14:18:33 *** ptmb has quit ("Bye!") 14:55:19 *** pa_3030 (i=7da14bb0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a1bfb79822533406) has joined #portableapps 14:55:33 hello 14:57:08 after installing lots of portable apps, the menu list becomes longer, is it possible to group the apps, example office apps or audio apps 14:57:59 ? 14:58:22 help! 14:58:22 pa_3030: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 15:02:14 *** ChrisMorgan (i=7aa9dd2c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-46fba05b38e66e7b) has joined #portableapps 15:02:15 ChrisMorgan is an #portableapps op and a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more and is away from home in other countries - he must have found an internet connection! :-) 15:05:25 Anyone here used BPBible Portable 0.4? Trying to diagnose a problem... 15:12:33 No? :-( 15:14:51 what kind of problem are you facing? 15:14:53 i am downloading one at the moment 15:15:08 Oh, hello pa_3030 :-) 15:15:24 Just looking into a problem reported - http://bpbible.com/node/50 15:15:36 i see 15:15:37 And I haven't yet finished downloading it... 15:16:30 i suppose we'll just have to install and see how it is 15:16:47 So, pa_3030, have you been in here before? 15:16:56 btw it is a great program! :) excellent work! 15:17:10 It's my brothers' program mainly. 15:17:16 I just do BPBible Portable :-) 15:17:20 nope just today, i was looking for a solution to grouping the menu together... to avoid scrolling down 15:17:30 ok... /finally/ finished downloading it... 15:17:49 yupe... i saw your name in the bpbible.com site, very useful tool! :D 15:17:50 well, you won't find an official one yet. Wait till probably about new year. 15:18:28 John T. Haller was going to release Alpha 1 of the Platform v2 mid November, but big deals with big companies have put that off a bit :-) 15:18:54 new year is days away... i wish it's all go well :) 15:19:17 I hope so too... 15:20:00 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:23:27 *** Neoman (n=Neoman@41.233.4.21) has joined #portableapps 15:23:54 Neoman: hola Neoman 15:24:10 hola ZachThibeau 15:24:20 Merry Christmas 15:24:43 Happy Boxing Day here :P 15:25:10 lol 15:26:19 *** Roamer (i=4aea8370@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ee5a6f191eca3b8f) has joined #portableapps 15:26:20 Roamer is a linux geek cursed to use windows until he gets his own laptop. 15:27:00 does Firefox Optimizer really Works? 15:27:08 i never tried it but i'm wondering! 15:27:59 ZachThibeau: yes, UPX broke DT2. 15:28:03 DT1 works. 15:28:05 DT2 doesn't. 15:28:08 :-(. 15:28:24 ChrisMorgan: hmm odd as DT1 is working for me :/ 15:28:30 sa is DT2 15:28:33 DT1 is working for me too. 15:28:34 **as 15:28:35 DT2 is not. 15:28:48 And two other people have reported the same thing about 2... 15:29:13 And yes, I checked the version numbers in the about box. Qt 4.5. Arora 0.4. 15:29:18 So it's Arora 0.4. 15:29:19 I still have DT1 on my server :P I'll rename it as DT3 and see what people say 15:29:46 it will have to be after lunch though :P 15:29:53 Build Arora_Portable_0.4_Development_Test_3.paf.exe with all my suggestions fixed... 15:30:08 help.html - it's "the portable file archiver" is it? 15:30:18 :P sure 15:30:24 App\appinfo - rename to AppInfo :P 15:31:03 appicon - the shadow is dithered for 256-colour version. Try replacing it with http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/portableapps/AroraPortable-appicon.ico 15:31:26 AppInfo.ini -> [Details] -> Category - shouldn't be "Utilities", should be "Internet" 15:32:09 Other\Source\readme.txt - The version number should no longer be included in the first line. John's copyright should be up to 2008, not 2006. Directory structure: your launcher will only accept the first directory structure. The others require AroraPortable.ini configuration, so remove them from there. You might as well scrap the final Firefox attribution bit - all the other (non-Mozilla-app) launchers do. 15:32:52 help.html - scrap the AroraPortable-Specific Issues bit and replace it with the generic one (e.g. from BPBible Portable) 15:33:00 Only the main apps get their own help sections 15:33:12 Too many is too much for translators, sez John 15:33:22 Launcher: add yourself to the copyright bit 15:33:39 ChrisMorgan: I only add that to the final version ;) 15:33:55 Which bit? 15:34:10 And also, always Arora Portable in text, not AroraPortable. 15:34:22 the readme text :P 15:34:41 Which bit of the readme text? 15:34:50 Actually the firefix attribution was taken from the 7-ZipPortable readme txt file :P 15:34:56 I think I've given you enough to be going on with though ;-) 15:35:03 ZachThibeau: none of the new apps have it. 15:35:14 ChrisMorgan: thats where you kind of wrong ;) 15:35:22 your right but kind of wrong :P 15:35:35 the latest Version of 7-Zip Portable has it 15:35:44 It's departed far enough away from the original code, let alone the code which was being attributed. The code being attributed is Mozilla-specific. So 7-Zip doesn't need it AT ALL! 15:35:46 :D 15:35:54 I don't care 15:35:56 :P 15:36:02 less work for me 15:36:15 Also, change 4.5.0.0 to 0.4.0.0 and 4.5 to 0.4 everywhere :D 15:36:28 ChrisMorgan: you already stressed that :/ 15:36:34 enough already 15:36:36 :P 15:37:15 Line 35 of PortableApps.comInstallerConfig.nsh should read `!define FILENAME "Arora_Portable_0.4_Development_Test_3"` for your next release :P 15:37:16 :D 15:37:22 pa_3030: that's how things happen around here :P 15:37:35 Well really, ZachThibeau, you did ask for it... :P 15:37:44 What do you think about the icon bit though? 15:37:54 For Windows 2000, it will make it look better. 15:38:22 IcoFX uses >50% for opaque, <50% for transparent. Whatever you used dithers. 15:38:32 So in IcoFX, the shadow just vanishes :-) 15:38:34 well the icon bit is fine It's in full Windows XP Icon format (didn't bother with the 256 Vista png compressed icon :/) and I don't like IcoFX 15:39:11 The full alpha format is pretty much the same. It's the 256 colour version that I fixed up. 15:41:41 ZachThibeau: got all those? 15:41:58 unfortunetly :P 15:42:06 yes 15:42:18 ok, then I'll ditch my comment on the page :-) 15:42:28 what page? 15:42:32 ;) 15:42:46 no actually really what page 15:42:58 Your DT page 15:43:08 Hmm... should I include a link to the IRC logs? 15:43:15 palogbot: logs? 15:43:21 .logs 15:43:45 ah well, I can't remember the syntax :P 15:43:46 palogbot: uri 15:43:46 http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2008-12-26#T15-43-46 15:43:48 .def logs 15:43:48 ;) 15:43:48 ChrisMorgan: I have no idea who or what logs is. 15:43:53 ah, that! 15:43:56 hi ChrisMorgan the bpbible 0.4 portable works fine 15:43:56 thx 15:43:56 yup 15:44:34 pa_3030: thanks... which OS are you using? 15:44:49 * ChrisMorgan tried it with XP SP2 (32-bit) and didn't get that problem... 15:44:57 xp sp2 15:45:00 ZachThibeau: I'll link to http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/?t=2008-12-26#T15-27-59 for the logs :-) 15:45:46 ok 15:45:52 32-bit I presume? 15:46:08 ZachThibeau: have you used BPBible Portable 0.4? 15:46:20 ChrisMorgan: all the time :) 15:46:26 :-) 15:46:31 No problems with it? 15:46:35 not yet :D 15:46:48 such as those reported at http://bpbible.com/node/50 ? 15:47:08 no problems at all period :) 15:47:20 Good :-) 15:47:21 OS? 15:47:52 Windows XP SP3, Vista SP1, VIsta SP2 beta, Linux Mint :D all stable for me 15:47:54 probably that happens with xp3? 15:48:01 Oh yeah, those people reading these logs because of my comment at http://portableapps.com/node/17334#comment-107412, I've finished nitpicking now ;-) You can stop reading :P 15:48:03 :D 15:48:58 I dunno what the problem is. My Dad uses BPBible 0.4 (non-portable) on Vista Ultimate 64-bit on his MacBook Pro. It's for some reason very slow, but it doesn't crash. 15:51:01 didn't move slow for me :P 15:51:05 Also it turns out that when Ben built BPBible Portable 0.4 (I was in Sri Lanka at the time, and he at home with it) he didn't do the python compressing & bundling bit :-( Which is why BPBible Portbale 0.4 is so large :-( 15:51:13 ZachThibeau: 64-bit? 15:51:19 That may well be the key to it. 15:51:22 32 bit 15:51:31 Yeah. 15:51:31 :D 15:51:32 ;-) 15:51:38 64 bit is too unstable I think 15:51:49 from my experience anyways 15:51:50 :o 15:51:55 Not at all! 15:52:11 it is for me 15:52:30 Sure, Dad's http://watersums.com software doesn't work properly, but that seems to be a Vista thing, not a 64-bit thing. 15:53:13 To do with embedding Adobe SVG viewer in an MSHTML component - and "security" on local files (/me rolls his eyes :P) 15:53:39 But Dad hasn't got anyone with Vista 32 to test it, but it probably wouldn't work. 16:04:48 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("mibbit.com: Get BPBible Portable! http://portableapps.com/BPBiblePortable") 16:04:55 chao everyone, best wishes for the new year! 16:07:36 *** pa_3030 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 16:10:10 *** joerg_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:12:07 *** joerg_ (n=joerg@p54889AA7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #portableapps 16:18:07 *** Neoman has quit ("Later!") 16:18:43 *** Neoman (n=Neoman@41.233.4.21) has joined #portableapps 16:25:27 *** Neoman has quit ("Later!") 16:25:43 *** Neoman (n=Neoman@41.233.4.21) has joined #portableapps 16:26:45 *** PatrickPatience (n=Patrick@unaffiliated/patrickpatience) has joined #portableapps 16:26:45 PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com) 16:31:34 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 16:40:45 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 16:41:38 *** rmccue has quit (Client Quit) 16:43:37 Mmm, Trans-Siberian Orchestra. 16:51:22 They had a concert the other day, you know? 16:52:00 *** simon_0815 (i=5d8471bc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15f4ebaefb9e7239) has joined #portableapps 16:55:48 Hi guys, every time when I start the portable apps menu, OO draw starts, too. Is there any autostart folder, which I could have used by accident? 17:03:16 *** Neoman has quit ("Later!") 17:07:01 Hey simon_0815. 17:07:07 That's odd. 17:07:15 You just installed the suite and nothing else? 17:08:25 *** Roamer has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17:10:38 *** kai_62656 (n=Steve_In@71.92.155.146) has joined #portableapps 17:10:39 kai_62656 is here. He's developing Lmarbles, Lincity-NG, WinHTTrack Website Copier Portable. 17:17:09 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 17:18:55 hi 17:19:11 howdy kai_62656 17:19:19 howdy ZachThibeau 17:21:37 whats new lai 17:21:41 ** kai_62656 17:22:00 not much 17:22:34 which... 17:23:55 which what :/ 17:24:01 gotta go 17:24:04 kk 17:24:06 have fun 17:24:10 ok 17:24:19 ill be back in a while 17:24:21 *** kai_62656 has quit ("Leaving.") 17:24:22 :) 17:25:03 LOGAN: I need your opinion on my site template I am working on http://zachthibeau.com/testsite/ 17:32:05 heh 17:32:10 i got something cool 17:32:20 a 16GB thumb drive 17:32:25 FOR FREE :D:D:D:D:D:D 17:32:44 so whatcya up to Zach 17:32:59 making a Sega portable app :D 17:33:11 IE sega emulator ^o^ 17:33:27 *** PatrickPatience has quit ("Peaceout.") 17:34:25 Hi Patrick, I didn't change the installation. But some days ago,it didn't start. 17:42:27 he's gone d00d 17:48:27 *** Roamer (i=4aea8370@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b41448a66d96bb58) has joined #portableapps 17:48:27 Roamer is a linux geek cursed to use windows until he gets his own laptop. 17:50:01 linux geek my %*^& 17:50:29 *** simon_0815 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17:50:29 if he was a linux geek he'd use a live CD instead of worrying about winblowz 17:50:42 * Mir lurks off 17:50:47 I'm working on using a live flash drive distro 17:50:53 AWSOME 17:51:15 * Roamer chases mir and throws a live cd at his head. 17:51:34 i found that my new laptop will not get a linux distro installed due to some power issues with my perticular laptop 17:51:58 my new laptop is not ACPI compliant 17:52:12 D: 17:52:19 odd. I bet you can put linux on it... Your probably just to lazy to try... :P 17:52:21 and thus the processor runs at 100% power 17:52:25 nope 17:52:29 i have tried 17:52:33 ACPI off 17:52:44 then everything heats up to all hell 17:52:50 Yikes. 17:52:51 and i cannot shutdown 17:52:55 D: 17:53:11 ZachThibeau :D 17:53:18 Mir: :D 17:53:29 * Roamer gets the fire extinguisher and gives it to Mir as a late Christmas present. 17:53:46 Mir: here is a nice emu ;) http://sourceforge.net/projects/diamondm2server/ 17:53:54 called Legend of Mir 2 Diamond Emulator 17:53:57 :P 17:54:45 Mir: what do you think? 17:54:59 -_-# 17:55:23 :P your a legend Mir :D 17:56:28 -_-# 17:56:41 on a serious note 17:56:48 *Da Da Da Daaaa!!!* (Legend of Zelda, lol) 17:56:56 Zach do you think you could make Kega portable 17:56:56 :D 17:57:16 maybe not Kega but maybe Gens as that is license under the GNU GPL :) 17:57:21 * Mir is listening to Opening by Koji Kondo on The Legend of Zelda [Amarok] 17:57:23 :p 17:57:32 ahh 17:57:44 *** Scriptdaemon (n=KennyW@cpe-98-150-85-231.dc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 17:57:55 Mir: is Gens acceptible for as an alternative :D 17:58:10 yup 17:58:13 :D 17:58:16 lol 17:58:18 I'll work on it asap :D 17:58:42 meaning when he finally decides to... :P 17:58:44 thanks d00d 17:59:05 i have a few friends who wioll help test 17:59:07 :D 17:59:11 Roamer: nope :) I actually intend to work on it this afternoon (more in the evening probably :D) 17:59:43 * Mir is listening to In The Evening by Led Zeppelin on Led Zeppelin Boxed Set (Disc 4) [Amarok] 17:59:50 hehe 18:00:00 lol. Wish I could work on getting Linux native on my flash drive but I go to work in 3 hours... :( 18:00:41 I had one going, but I didn't like it as much... 18:01:04 * ZachThibeau is listening to Howard Shore Album The Fellowship of the Ring from the Lord of the Rings Sound Track :D 18:02:19 * Roamer is listening to Pandora web radio because he's too broke to buy more music and to lazy to steal it. 18:02:41 xD 18:02:47 i just rip mine 18:03:31 Mir: I do to :D (then I rip my friends cd with their permission :P) 18:03:31 I spent $100 alone just to get 5 daft punk CDs. Good band... in fact... (Gets daft punk playing on Pandora...) 18:06:35 Dang it! The irony... I accidentally closed the tab with pandora in it... 18:08:25 ZachThibeau: nice site and I recognise the text 18:08:32 :P 18:08:51 I worked hard on the layout. it's still not complete. but it's getting there :) 18:09:23 http://picasaweb.google.com/albartus/TheRoom?authkey=-sZI8FEKO5w#5284112374593192370 still working on this 18:09:38 I'm going to port it to wordpress 18:12:40 *** ptmb (n=ptmb@bl6-34-97.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #portableapps 18:12:44 ptmb: :D 18:12:50 Hi Zach! 18:12:58 I saw the logs earlier today btw :P 18:13:19 yeah your css I had to start fresh with :P 18:13:22 I've developed a little more my css, and comented it, so you understand it :P 18:13:43 I can give you the css file if you want :) 18:14:04 I saw http://zachthibeau.com/testsite/ 18:14:08 so don't worry 18:14:10 I saw it 18:14:19 I saw the css 18:14:21 what do you think of the modifications I made :) 18:14:32 now clean the sawdust 18:14:33 lemmie just re-see it :P 18:15:29 the css file I modified from another style I found but made with major modifications too it :P 18:15:57 it is nice, I actually used a layout similar to your when I gave up on another (for the multi collumns) 18:16:02 just some tips 18:16:09 instead of pixels 18:16:13 use ems 18:16:24 I prefer pixels. easier for me to code with 18:16:26 you saw those "0.5em" "1em" 18:16:30 it is messy 18:16:39 but it is better for assecibility 18:17:07 not for me :( 18:17:10 with ems your text will always have a size based on the default size 18:17:31 you know some users make their browser text size bigger than 16px 18:17:38 so they can see the text better 18:17:55 with specific pixels they would have to increase the text even more 18:18:26 I did tried to see your layout on a webkit based browser and ire 18:18:28 I mean 18:18:29 IE 18:18:48 and I found that they didn't quite worked as they should for some reason 18:18:59 I viewed it from there too :) looked fine to me :P 18:19:10 it looked? 18:19:15 lemmie see it again 18:19:40 oh 18:19:45 ie has a minor glitch 18:20:17 and now midori is working as it should... :P 18:20:23 :P 18:20:44 I am now styling inline elements like the a tags and stuff 18:20:50 nice 18:21:47 also, I am using some code to hide layout from older browsers that don't code in css as they should 18:21:56 so in those browsers only fonts and collors will appear 18:34:39 *** palogbot (n=palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 18:34:39 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com Support Channel | New Releases & Updates: http://PortableApps.com/News | Looking for support? 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SO don't mess with the Bighead!!! 18:40:17 :/ 18:41:09 gluxon: orly? 18:43:41 ZachThibeau, the design is almost done 18:43:45 it is good for upload 18:44:13 gonna package it and replace the previous file I had uploaded, so it will be the same link 18:44:30 wait 18:44:33 something broke :P 18:48:01 Hmm, I'm not sure why my launcher doesn't check if the program is already running anymore. 18:51:25 ZachThibeau, regression fixed, I forgot IE is idiot and adds margins and paddings outside the width :P 18:51:35 :P 18:52:32 *** rbrt13 (n=Robert@ppp-30.96.dialinfree.com) has joined #portableapps 18:52:33 rbrt13 is Robert. He scripts php for fun and usually manages his site daily a bit too much ;) And... He likes potatos :D 18:52:36 howdy rbrt13 18:52:39 hello 18:52:46 i am happy 18:52:50 :P 18:52:51 i have a new webcam 18:52:54 :D 18:53:01 cool 18:53:16 ZachThibeau, remmeber the link I gave you yesterday? Down from it again :P 18:53:54 done :) 18:54:04 good ;) 18:54:20 as you can see the css is all filled with comments explaining each step 18:54:41 added a footer, placed some links, and I think it is all working fine 18:55:20 fixed the titles out of place in ie too 18:55:27 ptmb: I suggest adding in the footer add my name to it as it's basically my style that you coded :P 18:55:41 I added random stuff :P 18:55:49 you write whatever you want on it :P 18:55:59 :P 18:56:45 how about "Design made by Zach Thibeau and coded by PTMblogger." 18:56:49 :D 18:56:56 works for me :P 18:57:08 I already added it though :P 18:57:14 :P 19:02:17 Wow, how'd you support the snowflakes!!! 19:03:56 that is javascript, the javascript creates objects with the snowflake imeg on them, and updates their position every once in awhile 19:04:06 *snowflake images 19:04:22 I donno how to code in javascript tough :P 19:06:17 wow :P 19:14:57 Understanding the CSS, ZachThibeau? 19:15:04 yeah :) 19:15:10 cool :) 19:15:25 just adding a css img logo :D 19:15:30 cool 19:15:41 one thing tough 19:15:52 intead of adding an img tag inside the header 19:16:06 add something like a span, or an anchor tag, and leave the text inside 19:16:18 I teach you some easy ways to hide the text 19:16:30 and then you add the image as background text 19:16:37 I mean 19:16:42 background image of the tag 19:18:23 if you want, give me the link for the image, and I'll leave you some code on pastebin 19:22:13 I'm actually doing it all css :P aka the div tag :D 19:22:19 cool 19:22:29 not working so well :P 19:22:48 yeah, because I had made the height of the header trough margins and paddings :P 19:22:50 Bye. 19:22:50 but I think I can get it working just need some coffee 19:22:54 *** gluxon has quit ("Leaving.") 19:22:55 :P 19:23:27 as you are using an image, in here I already advice using pixel units for heights, and forgetting margins and paddings 19:24:07 ptmb I am using pixels :P http://www.ibloomstudios.com/articles/css_logo_replacement/ using this as a guide :) 19:25:27 oh, you are making so that the logo also appears on print 19:25:28 nice 19:26:00 :P yeah unfortunetly it isn't appearing properly :S 19:26:38 gonna use your old logo to try some styling, and then I give you some stuff for you to work with 19:26:56 I got a new one made :P much simplistic in design :) 19:27:00 btw, you want the logo to appear when rpinting, right? 19:27:10 cool 19:27:12 but the old one maybe be good too ;) 19:27:32 it will be just for testing, then you can replace it with whatever you want :P 19:31:13 works for me :P 19:32:37 got a working solution 19:33:26 you do :O 19:34:00 writing it on pastebin and sending solution in a sec 19:34:03 :D 19:35:26 *** palogbot (n=palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 19:35:26 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com Support Channel | New Releases & Updates: http://PortableApps.com/News | Looking for support? 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/irc/restart 19:36:14 http://pastebin.com/m3e77b78c 19:36:51 replace everything on it 19:37:11 remember to change the height and padding according to the theight of your image 19:37:36 kk :) 19:38:19 I will later do a print stylesheet too :P 19:39:33 :O your my hero 19:41:11 thank you :D 19:41:18 lol :D 19:41:36 forgot to place code for a favicon :P 19:41:51 don't worry :P I use a straight favicon.ico file :P 19:42:01 :P 19:42:31 :D 19:43:48 I hope you can make the wordpress theme (and hopefulle the phpBB theme too) soon without problems 19:43:55 :P ty 19:43:55 *hopefully 19:44:22 *** TimClark (i=8087e359@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e8a09ae2ad9c5b93) has joined #portableapps 19:44:40 Hi TimClark! 19:44:54 hello all, happy holiday's to you all :D 19:45:17 Thought for the day: When disparaging someone else's client, OS, choice of software, "It sucks" is not very informative or productive :-( 19:46:07 true, unless we back it up with reasons, for example "IE sucks, why? Because it interprets the CSS box model worng, and doesn't pass the Acid 2 test" 19:46:08 :D 19:46:20 that way it is productive and informative :D 19:46:38 and ptmb, some of like and use U3 with papps :D 19:46:57 :P 19:47:05 need to check the log to remeber what I said :P 19:47:10 it does what it needs to do, it does not need to be compared with our stuff 19:47:31 howdy TimClark :D 19:47:35 wait, that was the other guy that was getting help that said :P 19:47:43 or did I say something too? :P 19:48:12 not important 19:48:32 how is you holiday going :D 19:48:40 great! 19:48:58 I had a new chair (a good one :D ) 19:49:06 a laser printer... 19:49:08 I mean 19:49:09 I got 19:49:23 and there were some crazy parties here :P 19:49:25 one line please :) 19:49:29 ok :P 19:49:33 ty 19:50:19 hope the parties were not too crazy, how old are you 19:50:23 anyways need to go :) family time 19:50:25 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 19:50:52 not too crazy, but I am the borderline age so that they in few time can be extreemely crazy 19:51:41 It was a party with family, but my family members are crazy (including me :P ) so it had music, and dancing, and crazy stuff :P 19:51:46 a 16 year old crazy party and an 18 year old crazy party can be quite different ! 19:51:54 I know :P 19:52:31 I am going to do 16 in march, so I am very close to some crazy parties :P 19:52:37 "OMG i had so much fruit punch that i will be running to the bathroom all night" :O 19:52:42 Rofl. 19:52:52 lmao. 19:52:57 crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy! 19:53:46 /checking PA.c for a while, standby mode here 20:00:35 Beware: Christmas Ecard Malware scams: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=5557 20:01:41 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps 20:01:49 Eeech, that seems bad. Lucky me Firefox comes with an anti-malware filter :D or sort of :P 20:01:58 Hi KevinPorter! 20:02:06 Afternoon ptmb. :) 20:02:34 ptmb: these kind of alerts are new, the malware filters might not be up to date yet, be careful 20:02:38 KevinPorter: :D 20:02:49 TimClark: Afternoon. :D 20:03:13 happy holiday's for you KevinPorter ? 20:03:31 Christmas was good, yes. :) 20:03:33 How about you? 20:03:33 @KevinPorter: night KevinPorter. :D @TimClark: I don't run any software of those anyway :D 20:03:42 fine 20:04:22 ptmb: what software's are you referring to, my link concerned e-mail attacks 20:05:58 yes, and I mean when a site asks me to run software, it is better it has a good reason to do so, or else I wont run it. Also, I am on Linux, and unless I was running firefox under WINE (which I don't usually do) I am !!almost!! imune to virus. 20:06:37 glad you know to say !!almost!! :D 20:06:42 :D 20:07:53 i know some folks who think that if they use FF or TB that they can't be attacked, very foolish 20:08:39 FF is Safer, but you still need to use your brain, and other precautions for those who don't have one "P 20:09:08 Exactly! 20:09:11 If you're a dumb user, nothing can save you. 20:09:47 KevinPorter: be nice, sometimes the attacks are so new and tricky that even smart people can get hit 20:09:50 I've already heard of WIndows users that were able to not to use Antivirus safelly, just by being carefull (id still keep a firewall tough :P ) 20:10:28 *** Scriptdaemon has quit ("Leaving") 20:10:35 TimClark: Oh, I wasn't saying that only dumb users get attacked, I'm just saying that even the state-of-the-art virus protection software can't prevent you from getting a virus if you do stupid things. 20:11:29 I knew of a guy who did not use any protection and said he never had problems, it turned out he had had a keylogger on his system for months, but since it did not damge his system , he did not know :O 20:11:51 :P 20:11:52 Yep. 20:11:54 not all malware "SHOWS" itself 20:12:17 * KevinPorter hates those Flash games that ask for admin passwords. 20:12:38 My brother plays those all the time, and he gets pissy whenever I tell him I won't enter my admin password. 20:13:00 why should i damage you system and give myself away, when i can collect all your passwords and bank information :O 20:13:20 rofl! Btw, I am sooo carefull, that when I am logged in on some site, I don't go to other sites :P 20:13:23 That's the worse kind of attack. 20:13:51 true 20:14:33 how many of you as already set up Gmail to use https connections? I did :D 20:14:36 1. Patches, 2. Firewall, 3. AntiVirus/AntiSpyware, 3. Limited user accounts, 4. Don't click on EVERYTHING :o 20:15:27 TimClark, exactly! that is what I do. but you forgot one thing: Don't accept the install of "codecs" from pr0n sites! :D 20:15:36 AND of course, Backups, just in case !!! 20:15:41 *** rbrt13 is now known as wolvesbane 20:16:00 ptmb: don't accept "codecs" from ANY sites 20:16:12 *** wolvesbane is now known as wolvesbot 20:16:25 i don't need your fancy new video format , thank you :O 20:16:25 I was just saying pr0n sites because they are the ones that most usually request those codecs :D 20:16:39 *** wolvesbot is now known as rbrt13 20:16:50 sounds like the voice of experience ptmb :O 20:17:42 someone else's experience probably, I never happened to get such kind of virus, luckily, but once a link from a youtube's video description lead to a site requesting that, didn't accept obviously :P 20:18:05 /going to RDT, back shortly 20:18:26 ptmb: Even before Gmail had the option, I always used https. :D 20:18:50 I used the Better Gmail Firefox extension. 20:20:16 I odn't use the web interface anyway, I have all stuff sent trough imap, that way a link to another site can't steal me information :D 20:21:16 actually, with some cool addons, I have thunderbird always on and not annoying me. 20:22:15 I use the minimize to tray on windows and firetray on linux, and then I had it to the startup options, and it is always working, when I get a message I see it on the tray, and I don't have to be checking the windows every 5/10/20 mins 20:23:09 Cool. I never really liked Thunderbird a whole lot. 20:24:01 I have been thinking of using Evolution togheter with the alltray application, that can place any program on the tray. I don't use MS Outloook or Outlook Express tough 20:24:36 Outlook shoould be called lookOut 20:24:37 I love Evolution. 20:24:37 :D 20:24:40 Lol. 20:24:55 Personally, the web interface for Gmail is best for me. 20:25:05 * KevinPorter notes how redundant that sentence sounded. 20:25:31 I have been trying to make some mozilla css to make it look more native to the system, and I plan to use Prism to have it on the desktop 20:25:53 but as I have more than 1 account, it isn't praticall to me 20:26:10 * KevinPorter has all his email accounts forward to Gmail. 20:26:37 yeah, but I have 2 gmail account I want to keep appart, or else I would just redirect one to the other :P 20:27:02 Yeah. 20:27:38 I already have some filters for subscriptions to pass the inbox and be labeled automatically 20:27:49 (doesn't work always tough :P) 20:28:51 who has already tried thunderbird 3? I am trying it (with no email accounts :P ) and it is AWSOME (at least on linux :P ) 20:30:02 I'll have to try it. On my Linux box that is. I don't like mucking up my Windows PC when I don't have to. 20:30:19 I have to go for a little 20:30:54 who is using FFP 3 right now that can answer some questions for me 20:31:42 I use 3.1, but it's basically the same. 20:32:04 what is the size of the malware database at the momemnt 20:32:55 \FirefoxPortable\Data\profile\urlclassifier3.sqlite 20:33:31 Let me see. 20:34:59 back 20:35:29 Mine is 4.35MB. 20:35:34 and what I meant about Tbird 3 is that on Linux the widgets are now more native. It still needs a native theme tough 20:35:45 ptmb: support is occuring 20:35:54 ok 20:36:08 KevinPorter: that does not make any sense, mine is 16MB 20:36:22 i thought it was supposed to be like 52MB 20:36:30 Well, I'm in 3.1, and I might have it disabled or something. 20:36:33 mine is 16.5Mb on locally installed Firefox if it helps 20:36:48 I generally disable the malware stuff on FFP. 20:36:59 yes ptmb that helps, it matches mine, but i thought it was supposed to be bigger 20:37:20 on firefox 3.2 alpha it is 19.6Mb tough 20:37:28 when FF3 fist came out it was definatly like 52MB 20:37:36 strange... 20:38:02 if it has changed, no one is talking about it, which is a surpize 20:39:35 what i want to try is get the full database on my work machine [highspeed] and try trasnfering it to the home machine [modem] but can't really test till i think i have the full database 20:39:52 it may not work of course, but i want to try 20:44:42 don't you have christmas in the US? 20:44:43 :D 20:45:09 joerg, ? explain 20:45:17 well 20:45:25 the sourceforge people seem to work... 20:45:30 and in one line if you can :P 20:45:35 got a mail from them a couple of hours ago 20:47:07 in the us it is the day after christmas 20:47:59 ok 20:48:05 we still have christmas here :P 20:48:10 25./26. 20:48:27 you can say all of that in one line you know 20:52:13 brb later 20:52:30 bye 20:55:26 KevinPorter: were you able to check those settings 20:55:45 I didn't know you wanted me to. :P 20:55:46 Hold on. 20:57:16 if you do have the malware protection turned off i would be curious as to why btw ? 20:57:47 it was supposed to be the bib selling point of FF3 i thought 20:59:13 Well, for some people it's a selling point. 20:59:29 For me, it's just a nuisance. I generally know what I'm doing. 20:59:40 And I turned it off. 21:00:01 Mainly because when it scans downloaded files it takes painfully long. 21:00:41 it should not be scanning downloads, it should be checking the sites you are going to 21:00:56 it is a list of dangerous sites, not a malware checker 21:01:14 Hmm. I'm talking about a different feature then. 21:01:28 It does have a builtin scanner, which I find annoying. 21:01:38 Yeah, I have the malware protection on. 21:01:44 back 21:02:05 could you link to information about "a builtin scanner" ? 21:02:47 a default FF does not have a built in scanner that i am aware of 21:03:25 it doesn«'t, it uses the av on the pc to scan 21:03:35 Yeah. 21:03:52 Well, I chose my words wrong, eh. 21:11:18 joerg and joerg_ are you having users problems 21:19:44 joerg as you last spoke as joerg i will assume that joerg_ is a ghost of some sort and will remove it in 2 minutes 21:27:24 *** rbrt13 has parted #portableapps () 21:28:40 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 21:28:55 Hi again ZachThibeau! 21:29:08 howdy ptmb 21:30:47 ptmb: know of anymore webkit based browser besides arora and that other one? 21:31:07 and besides Chromium :P 21:31:18 besides arora, midori and the famous ones? no 21:31:25 :/ 21:31:28 hi ZachThibeau :D 21:31:37 * ZachThibeau thinks it's time to build my own webkit web browser :D 21:31:43 howdy TimClark :D 21:31:56 * ptmb thinks it is time to learn how to compile midori on windows :D 21:32:14 *** Neoman (n=Neoman@41.233.4.148) has joined #portableapps 21:33:14 I like arora :) firefox like in looks 21:33:26 midori looks almost like arora 21:33:50 and seems more stable in my opinion 21:34:31 well sometimes ports to another operating system can introduce some new bugs ;) 21:34:41 true :P 21:34:42 /going into RDT session for a few, ping if needed 21:35:25 *** mpfalg (i=723a5ed1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f744bd761514fa67) has joined #portableapps 21:35:48 hallo 21:35:57 howdy mpfalg 21:36:02 how can we help you today 21:36:48 can i save your site banner to my site 21:37:22 well you should email John T Haller for that as it is a trademarked image 21:37:47 you can contact John through here http://portableapps.com/about/contact 21:40:38 i can't see john contact, busines development or press relations 21:41:16 mpfalg: this topic seems to indicate that john would not have a problem with it: http://portableapps.com/node/14233 21:42:05 i would think given what you want to do you could use the press relations link and just explain that it seemed closest to what you wanted 21:42:22 ok, thanks to information, 21:44:20 *** mpfalg has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21:46:29 KevinPorter: are you available to the channel if needed 21:47:43 I'll be around for another 20 minutes. 21:48:25 ok, i'm going to be timed out on this connection soon, i should break and return soon 21:48:41 anyways later guys 21:48:43 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 21:49:20 *** Neoman has quit ("Later!") 21:49:42 *** Neoman (n=Neoman@41.233.4.148) has joined #portableapps 21:56:11 gonna go 21:56:11 bye 21:56:17 *** ptmb has quit ("Bye!") 22:01:27 *** JacobMastel (i=42a9f8b8@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-39e4b7cb1bc9f746) has joined #portableapps 22:01:36 Hi all 22:02:08 Everyone have a good christmas? 22:03:01 Yessir. How about you JacobMastel? :) 22:03:12 hello JacobMastel , merry christmas, did you really think the drive had 8GBs or was is a different issue ? 22:03:15 Mine was good. 22:03:26 TimClark: It is an 8gig drive 22:03:40 But because of formating it dops down the size like any hard drive 22:03:43 Or other flash 22:03:51 But for some reason PAM is rounding it down to 8 22:03:58 but what do you think 8 gig drive means 22:04:02 The larger the drive the more space you lose to formating 22:04:36 Well 8gigs means total space including what's lost to the formating 22:04:43 For example: 22:05:19 I have a 500gig hard drive. But I only have like 496 gigs of usuable space. (I'm not at home so this is what I think is right I might be off by a gig or two) 22:05:36 yeah, my 750GB hdd is actually 690GB after formatting 22:05:39 now I'm off again, bye :) 22:05:51 8GB to a drive manufacture mean 8Billion bytes, but when you do the dividing by 1024 you lose a lote 22:06:27 windows thinks in terms of a kb as 1024, not 1000 22:06:51 I know 22:06:53 it's not just the formating, it's what you count as a GB 22:07:20 But I would still like PAM to agree with what my drive has labeled on it. It makes it better looking and more professional. 22:07:32 my 80GB harddrive has 74.4 GB 22:08:01 i do not think of that as an error 22:08:05 my 750 GB has ~690 22:08:24 *** RickJ (i=3f1ad314@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3d48d373f7605e7c) has joined #portableapps 22:08:28 Hi RickJ 22:09:25 help! Hard drive pseudo-renamed to PortableApps 22:09:57 did you install it in the root of the drive ? 22:10:35 *** Neoman has quit ("Later!") 22:11:24 Probably. The details are lost from memory. I've tried manually cleaning disks & registry, Where is this "name" hiding? 22:11:59 x:\Autorun.inf 22:12:10 Label=PortableApps 22:12:35 it should be in the root of your drive 22:12:49 Thanks! 22:13:50 either change the "label" to what you want, or get rid of the autorun.inf [Warning, if you get rid of the file the menu will not attempt to try to start itself ] 22:14:34 you will need to remove the drive or reboot the computer afterwards 22:14:36 *** RickJ has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22:19:50 JacobMastel: you drive has 7.2759576141834259033203125 to windows, i don't think John will or should change that 22:20:40 Wrong windows says it has 7.49gigs of usable space :P 22:20:45 now it should show 7.28, not 7 i agree with that , but not * 22:21:22 I could accept that. 22:21:23 wrong is such a heavy word cosidering i'm aproximating 22:21:40 and i suck at math 22:22:28 Sorry didn't mean it to sound harsh 22:22:42 oh, and the * above should have been but not 8 [i shifted :-( ] 22:23:37 *** KevinPorter is now known as KevinPorter|afk 22:27:06 john, seems to agree that it should not round to the nearest whole digit, so the next version should be closer to 7.28/7.59/7.5 depending on how many digits he uses 22:31:56 *** Neoman (n=Neoman@41.233.4.148) has joined #portableapps 22:34:52 Anyone in here us AutoIt? 22:43:26 *** kai_62656 (n=unknown@68-113-43-173.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 22:43:26 kai_62656 is here. He's developing Lmarbles, Lincity-NG, WinHTTrack Website Copier Portable. 22:45:11 hello 22:46:36 hello ka 22:46:42 kai_62656: 22:47:01 hello TimClark 22:59:46 *** DaveDixonII (i=4b770137@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-99bdf03a16e521a6) has joined #portableapps 23:00:10 Hi everyone! I'm on my wii! :D 23:00:38 DaveDixonII: EWW!! 23:00:43 :p 23:01:29 DaveDixonII: Christmas present? 23:01:31 Omg! This thing needs adobe flash...... 23:01:40 It has Flash. 23:01:45 Yes... :D for me and my sister 23:01:55 I love my Wii. 23:02:04 KevinPorter: It only works on youtube. :/ 23:02:04 Please, no dirty jokes about that. :P 23:02:16 It works on Pandora and such for me. 23:02:31 It works on pandora?!?!?! Really? :D 23:02:33 As I recall it has Flash 8. 23:03:02 Yea playlist.com needs adobe 9 :/ any clue when they plan on updating that? 23:03:39 Probably never, knowing Nintendo. :-/ 23:04:04 My sister is sitting here with me thinking just sitting here and talking to people is dumb... :P (she needs a life) 23:04:15 Yeah 23:04:25 Maybe 23:04:36 (at sister) Ouch... That hurt... 23:04:43 lol 23:05:04 Well, maybe she needs a life (maybe) 23:05:18 My mom had to pay $10 dollars just to get the $5 dollar browser working... :( 23:05:25 DaveDixonII's Sister: OH OH hit him again!!! 23:05:31 HAHA 23:05:38 XD 23:05:48 JacobMastel: Now she wants to hit you. :P 23:06:04 maybe she really needs a life 23:06:08 or, 23:06:10 She's at your window.... Watching... >_> 23:06:31 with the joker... (she adds) 23:06:34 <_< 23:06:38 So Dave's Sister where do I live?? 23:06:40 :P 23:06:43 :P 23:06:47 HA 23:07:01 You live with your family. :P (sis) 23:07:28 In what state? 23:07:46 Grants Pass, OR? 23:07:51 ??????? 23:07:55 i got that from your ip 23:08:00 You mean you dont know what state you live in? Shame on you. (sis) Lol (me) 23:08:03 JacobMastel 23:08:15 HOw did you get that of my IP? 23:08:26 http://whatismyipaddress.com/ 23:08:38 I live kinda close to there 23:08:42 JacobMastel: He haz da sykic power. :D 23:09:06 wow i goto Grants Pass sometimes 23:09:14 or Medford? 23:09:20 DaveDixonII: *psychic 23:09:27 kai_62656: where do you live? 23:09:28 (sis) JacobMastel: Oragon? 23:09:35 *Oregon 23:09:39 Yes 23:09:42 check MY ip then 23:09:52 People can't see my IP. :D 23:10:04 about 80 miles from Grants Pass 23:10:10 where i live :P 23:10:19 KevinPorter|afk: She can't spell. :P¿ 23:10:28 Who? 23:10:30 How old is she? 23:10:37 Sorry if that's a little personal. 23:10:37 kai_62656: Cresent City? 23:10:40 That's not that close 23:10:42 Yep 23:10:45 well 23:10:49 Hmm.. 14-2=Blah? 23:10:50 but, really 23:11:02 But, hey 23:11:07 DaveDixonII: LOL. My siblings are 12 as well. Twins. >_> 23:11:17 :P 23:11:17 kai_62656: Hey 23:11:27 DaveDixonII: What? 23:12:10 DaveDixonII: = Highland Park, MI? 23:12:34 Feliz Navidad! :D (yesterday) 23:12:45 yesterday... :S 23:12:52 kai_62656: Epic Failage (sis) 23:12:57 lol 23:13:29 Lol. 23:13:36 maybe i can get Gizmo's 23:13:55 So... JacobMastel. What is the picture next to my nick look like? I can't see it on this TV. :/ 23:14:19 DaveDixonII: USB keyboard? 23:14:42 Really? It doesn't show a wii or anything? :( 23:14:45 You on mibbit? 23:14:59 * kai_62656 got Mir's "place"? 23:15:02 It looks like a hard drive with a remote sticking out the top? 23:15:03 :P 23:15:07 (sis) Dur..... Yes. 23:15:13 sis? 23:15:15 oh 23:15:28 Lol. 23:15:32 kai_62656: Slow much? :P 23:15:37 Slow? 23:15:44 ? 23:15:56 Slow meaning slow to learn, slow to get it, etc. 23:15:58 Lol. 23:15:59 kai_62656: My sis is laughing at you. :) 23:16:03 DaveDixonII Sis: why don't you get online with your own nick? That way we know whether or not dave's just being an idiot?? :P 23:16:16 Yeah Good idea :S 23:16:28 JacobMastel: Lol. 23:16:28 lol 23:16:47 JacobMastel: (me) Because my dad is using my computer and my mom is paying bills. :( 23:16:57 Oh. 23:17:19 Library :P 23:17:33 Lol. 23:17:47 Anyways I'm off for now 23:17:50 Type at ya later 23:18:07 *** JacobMastel has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23:18:24 bye 23:19:16 .tell JacobMastel Our library is like closed today..... and its pitch dark outside. :/ 23:19:16 DaveDixonII: I'll pass that on when I next see JacobMastel. 23:20:10 lol 23:20:22 * DaveDixonII and Emily are going to sit here, watch you all, and eat pizza. :D (sis ->) In your face. :P 23:20:42 * kai_62656 /me /me /me ! 23:21:11 the wii symbol looks like a joystick in mibbit 23:21:44 *** KevinPorter|afk is now known as KevinPorter 23:21:56 * KevinPorter hates iTunes even more now. 23:22:15 KevinPorter: Why? 23:22:27 It just mucks up everything I try to do. 23:22:32 And it's so slow. 23:22:43 And the store is absolutely atrocious. 23:22:52 Bittorrent is faster and simpler. :P 23:24:30 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-71-234-101-126.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 23:24:31 gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!! 23:24:39 *** KevinPorter is now known as KevinPorter|food 23:24:45 hello gluxon 23:24:49 My sister's mind has been disconfigured from watching Batman The dark Knight all because she LOVES the joker... (save me... meh) (sis ->) O.o 23:24:51 Hey kai_62656 23:24:58 Hey gluxon 23:25:02 lol 23:25:13 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps () 23:25:13 DaveDixonII: I like the new joker too :P 23:25:20 ... bye Tim? 23:25:29 He left :P 23:26:18 kai_62656: I always go into scrapirc. Usually before portableapps. 23:26:29 Unless in rare cases when I'm on mibbit. 23:26:33 gluxon: (sis) Yay! A joker fan. ^_^ 23:26:52 gluxon: 23:27:14 What? 23:27:22 gluxon: Thanks. :D Now how to get onto my network... from here. :/ 23:28:02 *** RetLaw has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:28:03 What? 23:32:40 *** palogbot (n=palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 23:32:40 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com Support Channel | New Releases & Updates: http://PortableApps.com/News | Looking for support? Try saying "help!" | This channel is G-rated | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs 23:32:40 Users on #portableapps: palogbot gluxon +DaveDixonII kai_62656 Neoman @KevinPorter|food joerg LOGAN MaienM WastePotato wingot_ @Gizmokid2005|AFK StatBot Bensawsome pabot diib tarbo Mir recipro 23:32:41 palogbot is the logging bot for #portableapps . Logs are found at http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs . If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/irc/restart 23:32:51 there, rebooted him 23:33:03 *** DaveDixonII has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23:35:10 there are no "active" ops or voices 23:36:57 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@mctnnbsa24w-142167032059.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net) has joined #portableapps 23:37:25 evening all 23:38:17 evening ZachThibeau 23:40:21 whats new 23:40:39 I'm just idling :) 23:40:53 .tell DaveDixonII: Is there a reason you pinged me? 23:40:53 gluxon: I'll pass that on when I next see DaveDixonII. 23:40:59 Gizmokid2005|AFK: :D 23:41:00 Hello ZachTheibeau. 23:41:05 playing CS:S 23:41:06 howdy gluxon 23:41:09 and just generally not at the PC 23:47:17 *** alpha1beta (n=Michael_@unaffiliated/alpha1beta) has joined #portableapps 23:47:23 sup guys? 23:47:34 Mir: is this you :/ http://www.thegshi.org/vb/member.php?s=f01d51438826a50ba59c5888481588a8&u=610 23:51:07 hmm 23:51:15 gotta fo 23:51:16 go 23:51:20 *** kai_62656 has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23:53:58 *** KevinPorter|food is now known as KevinPorter 23:54:10 WB Kevinporter 23:54:17 Thanks alpha1beta. 23:54:27 whatcha get for Christmas? 23:54:45 Not much. But I did get a nice new watch. :D 23:54:50 Citizen. 23:54:54 ohh nice 23:56:54 How about you? 23:57:37 got a nice new chair for my computer...mesh 23:57:50 which is good considering my old one had 3 of it's 5 wheels 23:58:08 KevinPorter: only a Citizen watch :P I got a rolex watch ;) (in my dreams that is) 23:58:40 Zach has dreams of grandiose things 23:58:51 that he'll never get :P 23:59:08 alpha1beta: I don't know :P I dreampt of getting a laptop and then I got it :D 23:59:25 lol 23:59:41 I dream of getting a life..