00:00:01 *** Roamer_ is now known as Roamer 00:00:43 Lol... Failure error.. beb posting screenshot of it. It's funny... 00:01:18 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps () 00:01:55 gonna go now, bye 00:02:01 *** ptmb has quit ("Leaving.") 00:02:20 Darn, I missed ptmb by a few secconds 00:11:31 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Bye D:") 00:16:05 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@plns-207-7-185-81-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 00:39:43 *** Scriptdaemon has quit ("Leaving") 00:39:45 *** daBomb69 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:41:42 *** daBomb69 (n=Compaq_O@66.43.242.42) has joined #portableapps 00:41:59 Pidgen crashed!!:-( 00:42:37 * dbdii407 will keep his trap zipped. :D 00:42:46 XD 00:44:27 daBomb69: pidgin crashes all the time. :P 00:44:47 It fails, a little. 00:44:51 gluxon: Sadly, ur right 00:44:54 But it's still awesome!!! 00:45:01 :-) 00:45:02 xchat is too laggy for my comp D: 00:45:07 *ychat 00:45:21 is there any even more lightweight client? 00:45:25 daBomb69: Think of it this way, pidgin is too awesome for Windows, that's why it crashes, cause Windows can't keep up with it, gets jelous, and crashes it. 00:45:34 :P 00:45:39 :P 00:45:56 *** Roamer has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:46:45 *** rcmaehl (i=601c5c81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-430e0ff6cd365953) has joined #portableapps 00:57:00 *** rbrt13 has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:58:35 ... 00:59:06 ? 00:59:37 *** dbdii407 has quit ("Saliendo") 00:59:57 *** dbdii407 (n=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 01:07:44 Sweet Rave Party 01:07:47 unc unc unc! 01:08:09 lol 01:08:11 where 01:08:23 Over there! 01:08:31 * Oni-Neoxes points off a cliff 01:11:01 * rcmaehl runs of cliff shouting "HEY WHERE'S THE PARTYYYYYYY....!? 01:11:24 * rcmaehl splats on ground and dies 01:11:53 lol 01:11:55 pwnzorz 01:12:12 i got pwnded 01:12:14 #portableapps-ot please 01:12:15 :) 01:12:22 *** rcmaehl has parted #portableapps () 01:12:26 * Oni-Neoxes flys too -ot 01:12:37 No parting required... O_o 01:12:47 aww 01:23:23 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Client Quit) 01:29:44 *** excid3|away has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:30:23 *** excid3|away (n=chris@student212-71.cv.siue.edu) has joined #portableapps 01:37:24 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:48:45 .g How to remove Google Desktop On Linux 01:48:46 :/ 01:48:47 dbdii407: http://desktop.google.com/support/linux/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=63297 01:49:42 dbdii407: Ur trying to remove Google Desktop? 01:50:13 No. I'm trying to switch to root privilege or use sudo to run the command: rpm -e google-desktop-linux 01:50:14 :P 01:50:58 * daBomb69 is confused by mention of commands line stuffs 01:51:32 It tells you right on the page 01:51:35 O_o 01:54:52 *** Roamer (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.85.213.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 01:54:54 Roamer is one of the Linux geeks that are found here from time to time. 01:57:31 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:57:34 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 01:58:04 howdy all 01:58:19 hello ZachThieau 01:58:39 hi ZachThibeau 01:58:55 did I miss much :) 01:59:17 Course not. Been absolutely silent most of the time. 01:59:30 lol 02:05:52 Except for when I shouted PEANUT-BUTTER JELLY TIME! 02:06:01 But other than that, no. :P 02:06:09 Like I said, nothing has happened. ;P 02:06:56 Oh no... I sense a text song in a few seconds... 02:07:30 Roamer: Don't provoke him. 02:07:32 :P 02:07:49 :P 02:07:54 Text song, text song. You're my text song! 02:08:09 lol 02:10:20 .o lastfm porterkm 02:10:23 Last played Carry Me Down by Demon Hunter from the album Storm the Gates of Hell - http://www.last.fm/music/Demon+Hunter/_/Carry+Me+Down 02:10:44 Last played, currently playing, it's all the same thing. 02:11:13 KevinPorter: great band. I like their song "Ribcage" 02:12:15 Yeah, that's a great song. 02:12:41 .o lastfm 02:12:43 Now playing Help I'm Alive (Radio Edit Final) by Metric - http://www.last.fm/music/Metric/_/Help+I%27m+Alive+%28Radio+Edit+Final%29 02:13:00 * rmccue <3 this song 02:13:33 has JTH released PAM 1.2 yet? 02:14:18 daBomb69: only on IRC 02:14:21 check the logs 02:14:28 it's not public really 02:14:34 just a quick test 02:14:36 ok, where's the logs? 02:14:46 look in the topic and it will show you 02:17:22 ZachThibeau: I can't find it:-( 02:17:39 * rmccue is now listening to Bat out of Hell by Meat Loaf. <3 02:18:00 palogbot: uri 02:18:00 http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-02-28#T02-18-00 02:18:47 I see a log of me asking about the log 02:18:53 * daBomb69 fails 02:18:59 daBomb69: http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST4.7z 02:19:29 Thank you!! 02:19:41 * daBomb69 cheers for ZachThibeau 02:20:02 you should Cheer for John really 02:20:23 * daBomb69 cheers for JohnTHaller also 02:21:09 hmm I like the new site design he is doing :) http://portableapps.com/temp/portableapps_redesign.png almost like mine but his is more deep red and matches with the splash screens and the new menu style 02:21:20 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Euphonium|away 02:21:33 daBomb69: now when installing 1.2 you need to make a new folder called PortableApps.com and put the stuff in that 02:21:42 ok 02:24:45 New menu ROX!! 02:27:08 Does anyone think that both the currant and the future PA.comhomepage looks sorta like an add? 02:27:16 =o new PA menu 02:27:17 since when :P 02:27:29 upnPAD: since today on IRC 02:27:50 wasnt JTH gonna release it to the site 2day as well? 02:28:00 oh so a beta 02:28:28 a forerunner to 1.5 basically :) 02:28:42 1.5 comes out tuesday, right? 02:29:38 dunno 02:29:38 ill just wait then 02:29:41 whats new thats been added? 02:29:42 when ever it is done 02:29:49 well you can hide apps :) 02:30:01 and, it lookes colleer 02:30:02 done via the PortableApps.ini file in the data folder though 02:30:05 *cooler 02:30:06 at least for now 02:30:30 so no auto updater yet 02:30:32 to hide an app you can add [HideApps] 02:30:52 DVDStylerPortable/DVDStylerPortable.exe=true 02:30:57 and it will hide 02:31:06 i c 02:31:18 oops wrong thing it's [AppsHidden] 02:31:25 *** excid3|away has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:31:35 you can also rename apps [AppsRenamed] 02:31:42 firefoxportable\firefoxportable.exe=Firefox Rocks 02:31:54 can you mod the menu more? 02:32:01 like the gui of it 02:32:06 1.5 will have the configuration interface to automate it 02:32:24 upnPAD: not like the menu mod 02:32:30 you can set transparency too :D 02:32:36 ;o 02:32:54 PAM 1.5 just keeps getting cooler and cooler 02:32:56 hopefully modding it and auto-updating is a priority in the future then 02:34:17 Ooh, "Center" works as a position. 02:34:24 do make the menu seem more transparent look in the PortableApps.ini file again and find this line AlphaBlendMain=255 and set it too 200 and you can see the difference (requires the menu to be closed too) 02:35:21 Note: Center works as a horizontal position, Middle is the corresponding vertical position. 02:35:41 cool 02:36:34 If you drag it, it only saves the area position, not an actual value :/ 02:37:39 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SergentSiler 02:40:24 PAM treates 251+ as like 1 with the alpha blending thing 02:45:14 *** Roamer has quit ("Look! A distraction! Wait, where? *runs off to find it*") 02:46:51 How does one hide an app? 02:46:57 Ah, =True 02:48:07 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-67-189-254-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:48:07 gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!! 02:58:40 hello gluxon 02:59:12 Hello daBomb69 :D 02:59:20 XD 02:59:39 lolz 03:01:34 The PortableAppsMenu is driving me crazy!!! 03:01:43 I have to reinstall it a 3rd time now!!!! 03:01:46 1.1 or 1.2? 03:02:03 ? 03:02:04 :O did JTH announce the 1.5 tester yet? 03:02:05 1.2 is out? 03:02:11 sorta 03:02:14 er i mean 1.2 03:02:20 or whatever it is 03:02:22 gluxon: http://portableapps.com/temp/Platform_1.2_TEST4.7z 03:02:31 ty ty ty daBomb69 03:02:34 :D 03:02:40 :-D 03:02:52 SWEEETT!!! 03:02:57 Where's the forum? 03:03:09 the node for this thing!!! 03:03:12 It hasn't been forumized yet 03:03:23 the only linky is that one 03:03:44 just replace the stuffs in the PortableAppsMenu folder 03:04:17 OHMAIGAWD!!!!! 03:04:24 its so SHWEET 03:04:28 ... 03:04:30 and, if u want the shortcut in the drive root to work, rename the exe from above link to portableappsmenu.exe 03:04:34 O.M.G!!! 03:04:41 THIS IS AWESOME!!! 03:04:44 gluxon, FTW 03:04:56 * SergentSiler makes hi pitched happy noises 03:05:03 ... 03:05:04 Hey wait... where's the fade in and out? 03:05:05 *** Havvy (i=47ecb648@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4f88acbd5406593) has joined #portableapps 03:05:09 * daBomb69 throws virtual confetti 03:05:13 gluxon, manual set 03:05:18 in the ini file 03:05:27 :( 03:05:32 What are the new features? 03:05:35 SergentSiler: How does one do that? 03:05:54 gluxon: New look, other features r supposed 2 be out on Tuesday in PAM 1.5 03:05:55 daBomb69, you look for portableapps.ini 03:06:01 and add fade=true 03:06:11 fade=true on a new line? 03:06:21 *** TimClark (i=8087e393@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4d794d7f9d643537) has joined #portableapps 03:06:22 TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :D 03:06:28 Hello TimClark 03:06:28 daBomb69, yes 03:06:30 hi TimClark 03:06:36 hello TimClark 03:06:40 >_> 03:06:41 <_< 03:06:46 hey guyses ^_^ 03:06:50 Greetings fellow p-appsians :D 03:06:52 hello Bensawesome 03:07:03 TimClark: Seen the new menu? :) 03:07:10 yes 03:07:16 looks cool 03:07:16 it rox, right? 03:07:33 Oh, hello TimClark. :) 03:07:34 It's awesome!!! 03:07:34 * SergentSiler cant get it to start a second time >_> 03:07:37 D: 03:07:56 SergentSiler, did u try to kill it, then restart it? 03:08:09 daBomb69, i apparently have like 6 running :/ 03:08:14 no tray icons tho 03:08:29 ... 03:08:31 perhaps Explorer is buggy, kill them all and start again 03:08:36 Evr head of a TAsk Manager? 03:08:47 Do not pass Go, do not collect $200. 03:08:50 On ubuntu it's called a process moniter though. 03:09:06 gluxon, duh :P 03:09:13 that is how i knew without seeing them 03:09:15 :P 03:09:21 Oh :P 03:09:24 So kill them? :P 03:09:32 yep i did 03:09:32 WTF my hard drive is being mean :( 03:09:41 * Bensawsome murders whatever gluxon is talking about 03:09:48 :O 03:09:57 Bensawsome, u kill the new papps menu D: 03:10:25 Bensawesom failz 03:10:27 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|sAFK 03:10:32 guys, crazyness to -ot, some folks seem to want to discuss the new menu 03:10:45 * SrgSiler|sAFK is already making a theme for the new menu :D 03:11:48 *** Euphonium|away is now known as Suiseiseki 03:12:19 TimClark: Does it seem to you the the PA.com homepage looks sorta like an add? 03:12:22 Hey, the fade thing didn't work :( 03:12:35 gluxon: Ur right, it doesnt 03:12:35 daBomb69: Not to me. 03:12:44 ... 03:12:53 Funny, you were able to type that fast? 03:12:57 daBomb69: checking 03:13:20 daBomb69: You replied to my opion "Not to me" before I even asked it? 03:13:24 daBomb69: looks about the same as it always has 03:13:25 :O 03:13:29 Really, it seems to screem "Download me!! I'm awesome!" 03:13:44 ... 03:13:55 gluxon: I ment the fade thing 03:13:55 daBomb69: You have magical powers... 03:14:00 :D 03:14:10 daBomb69: well that is what most folks are there for, arn't they ? 03:14:22 I figured taht out like 10 seconds afterward, but I kept it going :P 03:14:31 Ohmaigawd!!!!!! the menu supports full alpha trans!!! 03:14:47 Theme opertunities FTW 03:14:48 true, but still, don't u think it looks rather like an add? 03:15:03 I think it looks fine 03:17:14 daBomb69: hm.. now I see it :P 03:17:20 But.. 03:17:33 EXACTLY!!:P 03:17:38 The fact that it's free and open source changes everything around. 03:17:45 don't caps lock daBomb69 03:17:46 :{D 03:17:53 If the menu was like ceedo and costed money, then.... that would be different. 03:17:55 srry 03:18:22 if you really want to discuss it, wait till JTH is active 03:18:43 daBomb69: But I still aggree a little, it does look addy. 03:18:49 :-) 03:18:51 if you really want to discuss it, wait till JTH is active 03:19:07 *** Mir has quit (""LOL" i yelled to the cat. "Tho art truly divergent and laboriuous. My nose bleeds to your impending encounter with the froun) 03:19:10 We should definatly discuss it when John's in here. 03:19:18 TimClark: He's been unactive for like 5 hours 03:19:48 daBomb69: Let's start off the debate with "We the people, feel that blah blah blah" :P 03:19:57 ttly 03:19:59 :P 03:20:02 hmm 03:20:12 Sorry, not much I can do about that, but it is not and never has been an issue, and I hope will not bug him as soon as he comes back about it 03:20:18 hey guys what extra parameters are there for the new menu >_> 03:20:26 Alpha Blending 03:20:35 that on the ini 03:20:40 Bensawsome: THERE'S PARAMETERS FOR THE 1.2 MENU!!! 03:20:40 i mean that isnt listed 03:20:46 wasnt there something about fading? 03:20:50 *** Mir (n=Mir@pool-71-109-151-243.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 03:20:50 Mir is Mir, a lurker whom likes emulators. oh please will you give him some. 03:20:53 that doesntwork 03:20:56 gluxon: i meant options in the ini file 03:21:04 ya it does daBomb69 its muting HIM only 03:21:09 not banning him 03:21:11 gluxon: you will be unmuted in 15 minutes, you know better :-( 03:21:30 ohaithar Mir ^_^ 03:21:41 Bensawesome: I nemt the fading didn't work 03:21:46 anyways wasnt there something like fading? 03:21:46 *ment 03:21:47 oh 03:21:48 ok 03:21:50 *meant 03:21:53 :P 03:21:54 * Mir is not here because he's hiding from SrgSiler|sAFK 03:21:58 :o 03:22:01 :P 03:22:05 AIEEEE 03:22:07 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:22:08 * Bensawsome pokes rmccue and says there is Mir :D 03:22:09 lol 03:22:09 i have been caught 03:22:12 * SrgSiler|sAFK is making themes 03:22:15 u r safe Mir 03:22:20 *** gluxon has quit (Client Quit) 03:22:20 * Bensawsome eats SrgSiler|sAFK's themes 03:22:22 NOM 03:22:25 D: 03:22:28 :P 03:22:31 Bensawsome: -ot 03:22:35 gluxon says he has to get off 03:22:38 ok v_v 03:22:54 i bet he is gonne come on as someone else :P 03:23:05 shush Bensawsome 03:23:15 what :/ 03:23:16 lol 03:24:12 how do you hides apps again? i forgot what john siad :/ 03:24:13 *said 03:24:37 path to app\nameofapp.exe=true 03:24:43 in the hide app section 03:24:46 >_> 03:24:58 wait of the inin? 03:25:01 *ini 03:25:20 yes, and try to write in one line in complete thoughts please 03:25:47 i dont see no hide app section... 03:25:52 of the ini i mean 03:26:02 check the log 03:26:02 in the PortableAppsMenu.ini right? 03:26:05 kk 03:26:21 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 03:26:21 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 03:26:33 oh there is a NEW version :D 03:26:34 lol 03:26:37 of the test i mean 03:26:55 Hello ZachThibeau 03:27:02 Evenin' ZachThibeau. :) 03:27:15 Bensawsome: this will get you close: http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/?t=2009-02-27#T18-26-29 03:27:20 you act like I was gone forever :P 03:27:20 teh zach is back :D 03:27:22 thanks TimClark 03:27:31 teh zachzorz :P 03:27:44 ZachThibeau: :P 03:27:48 hi ZachThibeau and KevinPorter , the kids are hyper today 03:27:58 * Bensawsome twitches from hyperness 03:27:59 yes :) and I think I found a bug in test 4 03:28:00 * daBomb69 is insulted 03:28:21 TimClark: I've been paying attention, just not talking. I didn't want to involve myself in the banter. ;) 03:28:22 daBomb69: you have no sense of humor do you :P 03:28:37 nope:P 03:28:44 it seems that the 1.2 menu still has a few bugs :/ 03:29:03 that's why it was put out for a pretest SrgSiler|sAFK 03:29:03 really, like what? 03:29:15 TimClark, :P 03:29:15 yeah in test 4 when you install an app with the options menu the installer goes through but it frigs up on refreshing the menu 03:29:26 i meant theme wise but ok 03:29:39 I got it to install apps correctly 03:29:56 daBomb69: you renamed the menu so of course it is 03:30:05 SrgSiler|sAFK: then tell us you meant theme wise , and tell us what bugs you are finding theme wise 03:30:25 are they minor or major 03:30:32 the test was supposed to be not renamed daBomb69 so that things like what I am talking about can be tested properly 03:30:52 yes, just have it released as portableappsmenu.exe instead of portableappsplatform.exe 03:31:00 the patheme config file has an option that apparently allows you to change the transparency color and it doesnt work 03:31:04 the default is FFFFFF 03:31:06 *** rmccue1 (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 03:31:17 and i changed it to the norm of FF00FF 03:31:24 and it didnt allow for it :/ 03:31:45 What about a #? 03:31:50 would you consider this minor or major SrgSiler|sAFK , and can you come back to key board please 03:31:51 *** rmccue has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:31:53 *** rmccue1 is now known as rmccue 03:32:08 rmccue, there wasnt a # there to begin with 03:32:13 TimClark, its moderate 03:32:13 daBomb69: no it's now called PortableApps.com Platform hence the name change, and in the installer source in the refreshing platform section is said PortableAppsPlatform.exe for a reason ;) 03:32:27 SrgSiler|sAFK: Just try it anyway 03:32:27 *** SrgSiler|sAFK is now known as SergentSiler 03:32:30 kk 03:32:50 rmccue: is this case do you think it needs a # ? 03:32:50 no luck 03:33:06 ZachThibeau: Yes, but, seeing as how JTH hasn't released a driveroot shortcur for it yet, it needs renaming to work with the shortcut 03:33:08 anything important going on? 03:33:14 TimClark: No, just wondering. 03:33:26 JohnTHaller|away: Just talking about the platform. 03:33:26 understood, 03:33:29 daBomb69: thats because it's not a full release in case you have forgotten 03:33:35 The test1-4 i released was just to check for bugs. not atrue release 03:33:40 JohnTHaller|away: SergentSiler had a question for you. 03:33:47 sorry i've been away. someone tried to mug my girlfriend 03:33:51 :O 03:33:53 ouch 03:33:59 Ouch, is she OK? 03:34:00 :O 03:34:09 on our street we live on. she's ok. she fought him. he ran 03:34:16 good for her 03:34:21 JohnTHaller|away: when the paf installer tried to refresh the menu it's stuck on refreshing. and sorry about your girl friend 03:34:38 JohnTHaller|Away: Y'd u rename it to PortableAppsPlatform instead of PortableAppsMenu? 03:34:39 and this is with test 4 03:34:44 SergentSiler: the question about the theme , now is your chance to bring it up 03:34:55 daBomb69: It's all being renamed. 03:35:01 Y? 03:35:12 wat was wrong with the old name? 03:35:21 ZachThibeau: stuck how? is the pa platform running and are you running it from X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com? 03:35:28 yes it is JohnTHaller|away 03:35:32 daBomb69: The menu is but one component. 03:35:33 JohnTHaller|away, in the PAtheme file, the [ButtonApplicationAll] section allows you to controll what color is used as the menu transparency color and the font color, correct? 03:35:40 I can send a screenshot if want JohnTHaller|away 03:35:57 it's always been called the PA Platform... well since post 1.0. finaly bringing all into conjunction 03:36:04 oh 03:36:07 SergentSiler: it's not active yet 03:36:11 ah 03:36:47 JohnTHaller|Away: PAP looks really cool though 03:37:01 its shweet :D 03:37:04 anymore big points for john while he is here ? 03:37:15 The Backup screen is cool 03:37:21 ZachThibeau: you sure you have all the pieces in the correct place and installing it to the correct place? 03:37:31 i have no more things to point out 03:37:42 yes I do JohnTHaller|away 03:37:47 which installer? 03:37:48 what OS? 03:37:58 and if you say vista service pack beta i will smack you 03:38:08 XP Sp3 03:38:38 lol 03:38:44 XD 03:38:52 so walk me through.... you have the new test4 installed to X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com. you tried a pa installer to X:\PortabeAp[ps\AppnamePortable. which installer? 03:39:19 Mozilla Firefox Portable Edition Installer just downloaded today 03:39:30 installing it via the Platform 03:39:34 JohnTHaller|away, just a quickie, i cant seem to config the menu to fade. is this active yet or no? 03:39:44 ah no.. we're testing it outside the platform right now 03:40:00 i didn't disconnect the platform installer launcher from the installer yet (as in out of process) so that may hang 03:40:08 It is 03:40:29 SergentSiler: Set FadeMenu=true 03:40:32 ty 03:40:39 in the INI and be sure no duplicate entries are there 03:40:40 it installs then stays at refreshing PortableApps.com Menu part and it hangs 03:40:56 ZachThibeau: are you launching it directly or via Options - Add a new App 03:41:08 installing it via the Platform 03:41:12 JohnTHaller|away, working nicely 03:41:24 ZachThibeau: read my last couple posts 03:41:37 "i didn't disconnect the platform installer launcher from the installer yet (as in out of process) so that may hang" 03:41:40 I see that 03:41:43 onoly try installers directly 03:41:49 sure 03:41:58 i didn't set the menu to launch em out of process yet... so it'll hang :-( 03:42:14 gonna do that for test5... but well... someone attack my girlfriend... been at the precinct 03:42:16 JohnTHaller|Away: I got Miranda's installer to work w/PAP 03:43:42 JohnTHaller|away: that would explain it. sorry about that feeling a little tired I am as I just got off of work 03:44:29 minor bug note: buttons are not like normal windows buttons as in if you press and move off of the button it clicks anyway 03:44:31 wow thats not good JohnTHaller|away :O 03:45:01