00:15:54 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as ConnieChung 00:16:03 *** ConnieChung is now known as SergentSiler 00:18:39 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 00:29:35 *** Roamer has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:30:18 *** ve4jhj has quit ("gotta go offline sometime") 00:46:58 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 00:53:43 *** JacobMastel (n=Jacob@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 00:53:43 JacobMastel is an ameture AHK coder. If you need/want a script ask him he might do it for ya ;) 01:07:04 *** StatBot has quit (Client Quit) 01:12:22 *** Soike (n=poi@ool-457e6f7f.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #portableapps 01:12:45 oooooooooooooooooooh, lotsa people to get here :) 01:12:51 ya 01:13:06 * Soike knuckle cracks 01:13:13 TO WORK 01:18:45 *** TimClark (i=8087e365@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ec2a245def93f34) has joined #portableapps 01:18:45 TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :) 01:19:00 Hello All 01:19:12 Hello TimClark, how are you today? 01:19:32 daBomb69: who is you new best friend ? 01:19:45 uhh.. 01:19:53 TimClark is:P 01:20:09 Well, it's obvious I don't intend to be your best friend anymore: 23:36:28 * daBomb69 is very glad TimClark isn't here 01:20:20 23:37:21 * daBomb69 will hide from TimClark if/when he comes 01:20:26 * daBomb69 hides 01:20:38 Shame to, wasted a lot of time trying to help you too 01:20:49 Well, me did nick change 01:21:26 Of course if you NEED an OP, that's fine, but please don't bug me with your petty crap anymore, thanks 01:21:35 * daBomb69 has the normal name now, so no longer needs to hide from TimClark 01:25:03 daBomb69: Don't do what i did. You'll regret it. :P 01:25:20 DaveDixonII: what did u do? 01:25:24 No here. 01:25:45 * DaveDixonII doesn't want to speak of the 11 pg long reason. :P 01:25:59 11 pg long... wow! 01:26:02 *** Roamer (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.83.138.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 01:26:02 Roamer is one of the Linux geeks that are found here from time to time. 01:26:11 hello Roamer 01:26:40 hello 01:26:46 How are you today? 01:26:55 good. lol 01:27:03 cool 01:27:59 Hello Roamer , long time no chat 01:28:43 hi TimClark. Work, eh? that's my reasoning. 01:29:30 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:29:32 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 01:29:41 hrllo ZachThibeau 01:30:08 daBomb69: sppeking engrish are we? ZachThibeau: hello 01:30:22 Roamer: No senyor 01:30:27 *** Havvy (i=47ecb648@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7c5425b0ca457064) has joined #portableapps 01:30:27 lol 01:30:31 *Hello 01:30:31 *** StatBot (n=StatBot@c-24-63-80-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:30:35 Statbot! 01:30:41 hi Havvy 01:31:03 Bensawsome's coming back online... 01:31:28 lol yep 01:32:58 *** Soike has quit ("smoosh") 01:33:06 Hello Roamer. 01:33:25 *** Soike (n=poi@ool-457e6f7f.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #portableapps 01:33:27 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:33:45 *** lilg (i=18c0bb82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c21dfc30078c850e) has joined #portableapps 01:33:50 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 01:34:06 ohhh, theres a wastepotatoe here 01:34:08 i remember that yelling guy 01:34:28 hi Soike. 01:34:39 do i know you? 01:34:52 nope just me being nice 01:34:58 is there a way to make apps other than the ones offered on the site portable? 01:35:26 Yes 01:35:32 how? 01:35:47 You just need to make an NSIS launcher for the app 01:35:56 ???nsis 01:35:57 So, you have to learn NSIS 01:35:59 ok then , hi roamer 01:36:01 I IZ DUNN 01:36:02 .g nsis 01:36:03 daBomb69: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/ 01:36:12 lilg: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/ 01:36:37 do i downloa? 01:36:51 Yes 01:36:58 you people have lotsa channels 01:37:05 or, you could search the PA.com forums for a portable version 01:37:54 And, what OS are you using? 01:38:18 *** Soike has parted #portableapps () 01:38:35 widows XP 01:39:06 ok. In order to make a portble program, you need to learn some NSIS 01:39:06 i'v downloaded it now i install? 01:39:13 ok 01:39:17 how and where 01:39:42 Yes, to whereever it's default location is 01:40:03 it's? 01:40:20 You've downloaded the installer, correct? 01:40:38 yes 01:40:47 ok, run it 01:40:51 done 01:41:04 ok, you've installed it? 01:41:08 yes 01:42:55 Next, is the hard part 01:43:05 ok hit me 01:43:06 What app do you want to make portable 01:43:16 aim adn zune software 01:43:34 And, you've already installed them both, right? 01:43:39 yes 01:43:53 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|sAFK 01:44:56 Ok then, well, first, you need to learn how PA.com makes it's launchers, open up Windows Notepad 01:45:14 daBomb69: before this goes on too much longer, it might be time to move to PM or -dev 01:45:19 can it be notepad++? 01:45:28 yes, that works too 01:45:33 done 01:48:16 ok 01:50:20 uh now what 01:53:58 hello? 01:54:56 daBomb69: Your support... 01:55:05 is needing help. 01:55:13 TimClark told me to take it out of #portableapps 01:55:19 Ah 01:55:47 lilg: did you read this?: 01:55:50 .def adding_apps 01:55:50 JacobMastel: adding_apps is supported by the Portableapps menu. Documentation on how to do so can be found at http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps 01:56:50 daBomb69: i recommand PM or #portableapps-dev if he was going to go on very long 01:57:04 and thank you for that link JacobMastel 01:57:07 I PM'ed, to no responce 01:57:38 lilg: did you get daBomb69 's PM [private message] ? 01:58:38 *** Roamer_ (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.84.204.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 01:58:44 *** ChrisMorgan (i=cb2d06b9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c795e53cb90e1349) has joined #portableapps 01:58:45 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more 01:59:01 hello ChrisMorgan 01:59:22 first no roamer and then 2 in one day, :D , are you having a connection problem roamer? 01:59:23 *** Roamer has quit (Nick collision from services.) 01:59:24 *** Roamer_ is now known as Roamer 01:59:26 hello daBomb69 01:59:33 How are you today? 01:59:38 HI ChrisMorgan 01:59:39 TimClark: ya... 01:59:40 fine 01:59:46 thats good 01:59:57 anyway... I actually have to goes... laters! 02:00:07 I went away from Friday night till Monday night... and I'm hopelessly out of date! :o 02:00:11 Take Care Roamer 02:00:17 *** Roamer has quit (Client Quit) 02:00:47 ChrisMorgan: Yes, releases all over the place, John has been busy 02:00:58 lilg: I recommend that you read the Guerilla Field Guide to making portable apps - it'll give you a much better overview. Read it at http://portableapps.com/node/14868 02:01:07 Yeah, marvellous isn't it :-) 02:01:46 and yes, ChrisMorgan , thank you for that link, between that and JacobMastel I think it will help him lilg alot 02:02:01 JacobMastel: 's link * 02:02:36 I gotta go now.... 02:02:41 Bye JacobMastel 02:02:47 *** JacobMastel has quit ("Leaving.") 02:02:52 Take care jacob 02:03:14 *** ZachThibeau_ (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 02:03:48 Hey ZachThibeau_ ... having nick trouble? 02:04:15 no ChrisMorgan interwebz problem 02:04:23 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Nick collision from services.) 02:04:26 interwebz? 02:04:29 *** ZachThibeau_ is now known as ZachThibeau 02:04:38 internet connection? 02:04:46 yeah meaning wifi connection is bad tonight for me 02:04:54 ah k 02:11:20 I always liked "hardwire" myself, just seems more stable ZachThibeau 02:12:33 TimClark: I like hardwire too but my parents doesn't like the cables being stretched from the router to my computers 02:13:11 gotcha 02:13:40 :-( I think JohnTHaller's right about what the RT's doing atm... within 5 weeks I should be in a position to test many though, I'm hoping. 02:14:03 At the moment though I'm busy with schoolwork... 02:14:15 Otherwise I'd have tested every DT there is to test... ;-) 02:14:26 Well, not the violent games, but anything else... ;-) 02:14:33 Priorities are important ChrisMorgan , school is a big one 02:14:45 That'd get us stuck down at 28.8Kbps for the rest of the month pretty quickly :P 02:14:50 Yeah, I agree. 02:21:25 Well guys, got to go handle a few things, it's been an ...well....enlightening evening :O 02:21:36 Bye Tim 02:21:40 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps () 02:29:18 Bye... g3g 02:29:20 :P 02:29:21 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("mibbit.com: Get BPBible Portable! http://portableapps.com/BPBiblePortable") 02:30:02 *** sancas_ (n=sancas@190.87.244.184) has joined #portableapps 02:30:52 *** sancas has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:52:54 *** SrgSiler|sAFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 02:53:39 *** Scriptdaemon (n=KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:01:19 can anybody help me understan NSIS codes im trying to make a portable app 03:03:43 The easiest thing to do is start off by looking at another portableapp's code and work from there. 03:04:06 i till dont know what to change 03:05:09 Well, try to understand what each thing inside the code does. Renaming the variables to fit your app should be easy to start, no? 03:05:38 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Euphonium|away 03:06:04 fit my app ?im stupid 03:06:45 There are variables, like one for the name of the program you are trying to make portable, do you see where that when looking at the code of another app? 03:16:50 iv renamed the stuff and changewd the version what do ido now 03:18:49 There should be a file named according to the program it's for. Look in that and try to find out where the settings related functions are, if you can. 03:19:05 Then based on that, make your own or copy and edit it. 03:23:04 Help, I'm not sure HOW to get the registry stuffs to stay out of the host computer's Registry 03:30:05 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:30:18 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 03:37:00 *** lilg has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03:40:15 *** leftyfb (n=leftyfb@ubuntu/member/leftyfb) has joined #portableapps 03:45:14 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.244.184) has joined #portableapps 03:54:25 *** Scriptdaemon has quit ("Leaving") 03:56:44 *** JacobMastel (n=Jacob@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 03:56:45 JacobMastel is an ameture AHK coder. If you need/want a script ask him he might do it for ya ;) 03:57:03 hello JacobMastel 03:57:09 hi daBomb69 03:57:22 How are you todaY? 04:01:04 Good 04:01:05 Tired 04:01:23 oh 04:03:11 *** alpha1beta (n=michael@c-98-235-57-252.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:03:17 hello all 04:03:25 Hi Mike 04:03:28 How goes it? 04:03:29 hello alpha1beta 04:03:37 Lost it yet? 04:03:40 yep 04:03:44 complelty :P 04:03:54 hey dabomb69 what's up 04:04:08 JacobMastel 7 day weekend! :P 04:04:15 :O 04:04:22 That's a lot of snow days... 04:04:28 not much, you? 04:04:31 That means you gotta make them up in the summer though :P 04:04:38 nope! 04:04:46 nope, senior trip and teacher inservices 04:05:03 I'm not going on trip, so I get the week off 04:05:19 lucky! 04:05:40 yep :P 04:06:11 ought to help my stablize my mentality 04:07:41 jacob, lot of snow days for you? 04:07:56 Nope 04:08:07 I just remembered you had snowdays a while back... 04:08:22 and I don't make those up either 04:08:37 I graduate before the rest of the kids finish school, so seniors don't make them up 04:13:51 *** sancas_ has quit (Connection timed out) 04:22:14 wow the room is dead today 04:23:09 Whole internet is. 04:23:36 yay the internet is dead! long live the interwebs! 04:24:07 *** JacobMastel has quit ("Leaving.") 04:24:56 *** PatrickP|Away is now known as PatrickPatience 04:25:25 Wb Patrick 04:26:49 *** sancas has quit ("Saliendo") 04:33:41 Hi. 04:35:00 night ya'll 04:35:00 *** Euphonium|away is now known as Suiseiseki 04:35:01 *** daBomb69 has parted #portableapps () 04:36:21 so any word or how long ryan is grounded for, I get the feeling we won't see him for a long time 04:38:36 *** alpha1beta1 (n=michael@c-98-235-57-252.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:38:46 hey alpha1beta! 04:38:59 *** homexcid3 (i=4233be40@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5782004601152bfc) has joined #portableapps 04:38:59 hi and bye alpha1beta1 04:39:02 *** alpha1beta has parted #portableapps () 04:39:17 *** alpha1beta1 is now known as alpha1beta 04:43:09 lol 04:44:08 howdy alpha1beta 04:44:38 hey zach, how's it going? 04:45:53 * homexcid3 is tired of screwing around with CSS trying to get some freakin corners to work 04:50:20 alpha1beta: not much :) just got my server running :P 04:54:39 Man, Trent is amazing. 04:58:10 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:00:02 *** ChrisMorgan (i=724c34ca@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2577b3c1a860d22) has joined #portableapps 05:00:02 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more 05:00:10 howdy ChrisMorgan 05:00:40 howdy ZachThibeau 05:00:56 I'm off to bed now 05:01:01 goodnight 05:01:06 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 05:01:07 homexcid3: need any help? 05:01:22 ChrisMorgan: its me, excid3 :P 05:01:34 oh dear...chris is here :P 05:01:47 I know, you were saying you were tired of screwing around with CSS... 05:01:55 oh :P 05:02:04 If it's CSS3 corners, just the simple border-radius line... 05:02:17 If it's graphical background corners, they can be more troublesome. 05:02:19 well, what all browsers support CSS3? 05:02:23 Still not too hard generally. 05:02:29 right now im using a javascript borders thing 05:02:35 FF3 safari 4..idk what else 05:02:41 its called, nifty cube 05:03:10 Rather, which browsers support border-radius. FF, Safari, (other WebKit based browsers), just about everything except IE. 05:03:32 yeah, this is gonna need to be IE compat for sure 05:03:37 cause Ie sucks 05:03:37 I've used the Nifty Cubes ones before, don't like them particularly much, but for most they work fine. 05:03:42 this nifty cube thing is working pretty well so far 05:04:08 ive never dabbled with CSS before so this is new territory for me 05:04:09 If only IE finally got around to developing it, the styles of the internet would be developing a lot quicker. 05:04:17 For me it was just not liking it because of its technique and the fact that it breaks smooth scrolling in Firefox bigtime. 05:04:43 what do you recommend ChrisMorgan? 05:04:45 Havvy: ... so it's just as well IE stays behind ... 05:04:58 homexcid3: oh, probably the nifty corners thing 05:05:13 hehe 05:05:15 Heck, they'd save millions of dollars (for every other company) due to not having people try to figure out how to learn rounded corners in IE 05:05:51 its kind of odd watching the corners being applied 05:06:04 homexcid3: is your computer that old? 05:06:23 no, but i am on dialup :P 05:06:40 That shouldn't change anything: it won't start until it's all loaded. 05:07:28 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 05:07:44 well, it loads everything as rectangles then applies the rounded corners 05:08:50 Hey, Chris Little finally committed something useful to the BibleCS SVN repository... comment 'added commandline option "--noreg" to prevent writing private protocol stuff to registry (look, magically we have a PortableApps edition--that was difficult)' - Jon's comment is 'I would not be surprised if this doesn't make it "portable" in a Portable Apps sense. Never mind.' 05:08:53 I think I agree. 05:08:59 Nevertheless, it's a good start... 05:11:04 lol 05:11:12 ah ha! I find a few more command line arguments for Code::Blocks which are not documented! 05:12:16 Hmm... should Code::Blocks Portable not allow the DDE server to run? 05:12:23 Or the IPC server (whatever that does)? 05:13:03 *** PatrickPatience is now known as PatrickP|Away 05:13:21 i dont know what either of those are 05:13:30 i havent used codeblocks in such a long time 05:13:41 I'm not much of an IDE fan 05:15:20 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("Leaving") 05:25:16 ChrisMorgan: do you remember if the "same-height" option in nifty cube only applies to lists? 05:25:31 lists? 05:25:32 it makes sense if that is the only way to do it 05:25:33 it's divs 05:25:51 Or any other block element, but DIVs is the usual 05:25:57 *** dragonmage (i=dragonma@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 05:25:58 dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man. 05:26:28 well, no i was looking at the same-height columns 05:26:38 the examle uses an unordered list for each column 05:26:46 i think that is the only way to have it make them the same height 05:26:46 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:27:08 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 05:27:22 * dragonmage has news 05:28:33 I just made a Rainmeter config to act as a Start button for opening PAM 05:29:28 um, what am I meant to say? :P 05:30:01 has hover and pressed state, and can even play a sound 05:30:13 um, what am I meant to say? :P 05:30:35 um, what am I meant to say? :P 05:30:48 Hi everyone 05:30:53 OK then, "um, what am I meant to say? :P" 05:30:59 Hi dragonmage 05:32:44 I'm just not sure I want to tell leogx, that with Rainmeter in 15 minutes I made what he has actually been trying to code as an app for weeks 05:33:24 Hmm... I suggest that you tell him that with Rainmeter in 15 minutes you made what he has actually been trying to code as an app for weeks. 05:33:26 :P 05:33:31 OK, I'll stop now :P 05:33:39 plus bypassed the problems he's been having and added a sound on click 05:34:12 god we need more ops, to kick some of the existing ops... 05:34:32 SuperOps? 05:34:47 RoboOps? 05:34:50 or just someone to kick chris 05:34:54 :P 05:35:06 TheWizardofOps? 05:35:28 sthu 05:36:05 was that really needed? 05:36:21 I had already run out of ideas 05:36:23 borderline yes 05:36:39 I didn't say st*u now did I 05:37:04 except for maybe OpzyOpzbourne 05:37:50 UberOps 05:37:58 alpha1beta, please keep your language clean 05:38:04 that's the spirit 05:38:09 I didn't say anything chris 05:38:12 lol @ OpzyOpzbourne... 05:38:23 watch your abbreviations 05:38:47 *** Havvy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05:38:47 The Prince of Freakin Darkness Ops right? 05:38:53 just use blanks (_____ you!) 05:39:04 Or just be quiet... 05:39:07 which really means, hey you! 05:39:25 of course ChrisMorgan chooses the logical, non lulzy way. 05:39:27 :) 05:39:34 omg it little F is such a big issue, well F this then 05:39:36 *** alpha1beta has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 05:39:58 lol 05:39:59 bye 05:40:11 insert wry look. 05:40:18 That wasn't it at all. 05:40:23 * dragonmage shrugs 05:40:24 why do i get the feeling he will be back fairly soon 05:40:50 I dunno. He may, he may not. If I didn't know him better, I'd think he'd be reading the logs online :P 05:41:12 alpha1beta is a n00b! 05:41:19 yeah, i hope hes reading the logs 05:41:19 :D 05:42:22 this site isnt turning out too bad with nifty cube 05:42:24 all this over a little word game... 05:43:33 I thought thewizardofops was pretty good to btw 05:43:37 Nifty Corners Cube is quite good. It's just it wasn't what I was wanting when I looked at it. If I were doing something more now, I might well use it. 05:44:21 yeah, i like it a lot, except for the fact that it requires javascript, id rather not use images though so this works out pretty nicely 05:46:02 It also has the benefit in many cases of column equalising. Though with images you'd normally just use a table and get the same result. 05:46:37 yeah 05:46:50 well, im pissed off enough at this dialup 05:46:58 time to go find something better to do... 05:47:03 like watch The Office! 05:47:34 my mouse needs to be cleaned 05:48:20 too bad I never think about it when the computer is off 05:48:21 Lucky you. 05:48:33 Why does the computer need to be off to clean the mouse? 05:48:42 you could just unplug it 05:49:14 doesn't have to be, but I always accidentally click stuff 05:49:16 or just clean it plugged in. 05:49:30 * ChrisMorgan reckons that http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/nifty4.html looks pretty nice 05:49:32 ps/2 mouse 05:49:48 Yeah, so? 05:49:53 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 05:50:15 PS/2 mice work if you take 'em out and put 'em back in, just so long as they're in at boot up time 05:50:32 really? 05:51:04 yessir 05:51:11 if it wasn't such a pain to get to I'd try it now 05:51:14 ChrisMorgan: yeah im using that for the site 05:51:30 and i also really liked...the one with the 5 different colored blocks 05:52:12 dragonmage: or go to the device manager, disable the mouse, clean it, and reenable it :-) 05:52:39 ahh, good call 05:53:03 Should work, though I haven't tried it 05:53:14 So long as you also don't disable the keyboard :P 05:53:23 Then you'd need another kbd to get it going again... 05:54:01 I have a couple in the closet I think 05:54:12 Most people seem to... 05:54:40 along with some old computers... 05:55:07 *** homexcid3 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05:56:17 turns out microsoft doesn't think I should disable the mouse 05:56:38 No? 05:56:53 Does it say "hey you can't do that, how will you turn it back on" or something like that? 05:57:38 no it just greys out the dropdown where you select disable 05:58:40 Reahlee? 06:01:54 yes really 06:02:52 so, I just cleaned the mouse anyways 06:03:17 turns out there was a mouse living in there 06:08:39 Really? How surprising. 06:23:36 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 06:28:16 *** TimClark (i=8087e365@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-40a92d700ccfe670) has joined #portableapps 06:28:16 TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :) 06:30:20 Hey rmccue, TimClark :-) 06:30:29 Welcome aboard :-) 06:31:00 Hello ChrisMorgan 06:32:53 *** markomlm (n=chatzill@p54B8CE16.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 06:32:54 markomlm is the developer of the PortableApps.com Updater; OpenOffice.org Portable and the head of the German translation team 06:35:04 It looks like both of you are here, so i think i will just disappear ChrisMorgan , rmccue can deal with the "kids" and you can deal with rmccue :P 06:35:18 Well, I'm somewhat here 06:35:29 Hey markomlm 06:36:04 Join the Callipygous Club! 06:36:25 Hello markomlm , how are things things on the german front 06:36:46 hey ChrisMorgen, TimClark 06:38:13 TimClark: I don't like words like front and war :-( ... but PortableApps.com Manager is nearly complete now ;-) 06:39:07 did i say war ? 06:41:05 and sorry if front was offensive, i meant the german side of things :( 06:43:53 PortableApps.com Manager? 06:44:46 An app manager, inc. updater, app selector/downloader, etc.? 06:44:55 Not NSIS I hope? 06:47:08 markomlm? 06:49:52 ChrisMorgan: you have not heard of the portableapps updater ? 06:50:16 Yes, but this is the PortableApps.com *Manager*, and so I'm asking what that is, I'm guessing it's a continuation. 06:50:34 'Cos really, the Updater written in NSIS is just fatally flawed. 06:50:44 NSIS is just not adequate as it's been used. 06:52:19 NSIS is adequate as a installer/launcher, but not really that adequate to write programs in 06:52:56 Well, not for the updater anyhow. Far too much hardcoding is necessary, making it not at all futureproof. 06:53:45 I personally never really liked NSIS that much 06:53:54 Well, no matter what you think of it, I think that is what he is referring to, the Portableapps updater that is 06:54:27 http://portableapps.com/node/16779 06:55:30 last updated March 4, 2009 - 7:09am 06:58:31 correction: last updated March 9, 2009 - 1:10am 07:03:36 Well I don't think that it is, as the PortableApps.com Updater is as "complete" as it can be while it's NSIS, and I vaguely remember something about a PortableApps.com Manager... can't recall any details. markomlm! Enlighten us please! 07:04:05 Sorry I was was afk. And yes P-A-M is formerly known as PortableApps.com Updater. Its still NSIS yes, but ... 07:04:28 Still NSIS? :-( 07:04:50 I am of the opinion that it cannot be as good as it should be while it's NSIS. Too many inbuilt limitations in NSIS. 07:05:06 e.g. sections hardcoded, section sizes hardcoded 07:05:34 ... works now with local files instead hardcoded language strings, is able to detect all pafed stuff and delet em, is able to use different repositories 07:05:51 You could sort of get around some by using an InstallOptions page for some of it, but I think that Delphi or C++/wx would be better. 07:06:16 full support for all wget option over .wget 07:06:23 Sure. 07:06:51 Will be in future. But Delphi and C++ has also limitation 07:07:01 not in coding but in license 07:07:10 I've been wondering, why do you use wget rather than just the NSIS download plugin thing? 07:07:24 What do you mean, not in coding but in license? 07:07:33 The download plugin is used by default 07:07:34 And what limitations would those be? 07:07:51 Is it? I haven't looked at the code for a while. So why do you put wget in at all? 07:07:53 one question after the other ok? 07:07:57 :P 07:08:20 I reckon that it should be done in Delphi and integrated with the platform. 07:09:00 Hmm... 3 questions outstanding :P 07:09:05 And a comment :P 07:09:43 first, the P-A-M uses inetc plugin as default. For advanced usage (proxy authentification and so on) he is able to use an installed winwget portable :-9 07:09:49 TimClark: "error assumed" - you're nice :-) 07:10:03 ok, so does it no longer include wget in App\wget? 07:10:09 And App? 07:10:23 Some libraries in Delphi an C## are not GPL compatible :-( 07:10:42 But you don't need to use those ones, others will suffice perfectly well. 07:10:50 bbl, tea time. 07:10:53 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|away 07:11:13 So You have to code some things by Your self or find substitutes and this takes time :-( 07:12:45 hate when folks do that :( 07:13:05 I don't think he needs more caffiene... 07:13:26 it's like folks who leave in the middle of support :( 07:14:39 oh, I can't deal with this anymore, I have to do to the store, bbl :( 07:14:58 LoL but I need some ... 07:15:05 I'll be back! 07:15:07 ;-) 07:15:09 *** DaveDixonII has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 07:15:27 yeah, but you not in the middle of a convo markomlm :P 07:16:00 and you always need more caffeine :O 07:17:29 *** upnPAD (n=upnPAD@124.184.167.8) has joined #portableapps 07:17:30 upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/. 07:18:21 * TimClark hates upnPAD at the moment :( 07:19:12 I had to search the logs for XChat and upnPAD 's .def kept coming up :P 07:19:43 ;D 07:19:53 It took FOREVER ! :P 07:23:26 hmm, time for a new .def 07:25:11 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 07:37:54 *** upnPAD|2 (n=upnPAD@121.218.230.44) has joined #portableapps 07:38:28 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps () 07:39:06 *** upnPAD has quit (Nick collision from services.) 07:39:10 *** upnPAD|2 is now known as upnPAD 07:40:53 *** ChrisMorgan|away is now known as ChrisMorgan 07:43:15 *** upnPAD|2 (n=upnPAD@CPE-143-238-112-247.nsw.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps 07:44:09 .tell TimClark I didn't really have much choice about it... when it's meal time, you go. 07:44:09 ChrisMorgan: I'll pass that on when I next see TimClark. 07:45:06 markomlm: I really can't think what you'd need that you couldn't easily get with C++/wx or Delphi code. 07:45:25 I just hate it when parents call me for food while I'm in the middle of something :( 07:45:32 which I always am xD 07:54:47 :P 07:56:59 *** purple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:02:04 *** upnPAD has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:06:11 *** upnPAD (n=upnPAD@121.218.232.35) has joined #portableapps 08:06:11 upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/. 08:20:59 *** upnPAD|2 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:23:38 *** upnPAD|2 (n=upnPAD@121.218.72.162) has joined #portableapps 08:34:14 *** rmccue has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:38:59 *** pa_0110 (i=7b7f6502@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-641e767ac093387f) has joined #portableapps 08:39:07 *** upnPAD has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:39:21 *** pa_0110 has quit (Client Quit) 08:49:55 ChrisMorgan:try to code the upadte in Delphi or c## and You'll see what I mean ;-). Code it and I'll be happy to drop the nsis version. Untill today there was no one with a working updater. Only partial work or ideas or offers "I could, ... better will be..., Perhaps You should" :-) Don' talk about it, just DO IT ;-) 09:13:15 No one with a working updater? 09:13:23 Other than you, I presume. 09:13:40 I'd enjoy rewriting it properly, but I'm too busy with other stuff, so ftm that's off. 09:13:55 I might take a shot at it, if thats okay with you 09:14:04 PAFChecker is currently my main PA.c project other than some apps 09:14:10 MaienM: what would you do it in? 09:14:14 C++ 09:14:19 C++/wxWidgets? 09:14:23 yes 09:14:25 ok, sounds good :-) 09:14:35 You have half an hour *click* 09:15:05 hmm, better get started on it then 09:15:21 :D 09:21:00 what, my app is not in the updater? :O blashphemy!!! :P 09:24:05 *** silenTDev79 (i=83af9ac8@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-346fa5d6007f25ea) has joined #portableapps 09:24:18 hallo 09:24:32 I downloaded the latest portableapps.com suite 09:25:12 now I need to know how-to update from release 1.1 to 1.5 09:25:45 anyone can help meù? 09:28:31 hello silenTDev79 09:28:59 All you need to do is run the Platform 1.5 installer. It'll do everything else. 09:29:17 ok 09:29:24 but my firefox addons? 09:29:35 my keepass database and plugins? 09:29:42 my documents? 09:29:49 all your settings should be fine 09:29:53 They'll be fine. If you're really not certaain then you can back it all up, but it won't destroy anything. 09:30:15 It installs over the top, removing the old platform and apps (but leaving the data) and then putting the new versions in. 09:31:10 you're sure? 09:31:15 absolutely sure? 09:31:38 I have faith in John :-) 09:31:53 if you don't trust it, make a backup to be sure 09:31:59 It'll be fine. If you're not confident, you may wish to back it all up before you install it. 09:32:09 but I've never heard any complaints about lost data. 09:32:33 No, nor I, and that'd be a pretty big issue. With our size userbase, you'd hear about it within an hour of release... 09:33:14 and from that moment on, once every 10 minutes..... a horrifying thought, to say the least :P 09:35:44 Very much so. So John makes sure that such doesn't happen. 09:38:27 thanks for all 09:38:27 I trust you 09:38:31 bye bye 09:38:47 bye silenTDev79! 09:39:44 ChrisMorgan: damn, I've run out of time, haven't I? :( 09:43:37 *** silenTDev79 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 09:48:38 Yup, looks like you have. Where's your code? 09:49:09 *sigh* You need to learn to work to deadlines and all that guff they tell you at school... 09:49:28 lol 09:49:55 I think as far as the computer part at school is concerned, I'll be fine :P 09:50:25 since I just got a 11 (out of 10) back for a examn :P 09:51:00 huh? 09:58:29 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|School 10:25:49 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("mibbit.com: Goodnight all, have nice dreams :-)") 10:34:36 *** upnPAD|2 has quit ("oi na") 11:06:28 *** MaienM|School has quit ("Bye!!!!") 11:12:38 *** pa_3657 (i=5188c0ae@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a7b893046e36497a) has joined #portableapps 11:12:52 *** pa_3657 has quit (Client Quit) 11:26:25 *** ryanstubbs (n=3912@host217-46-195-205.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #portableapps 11:26:45 *** Bensawsome has quit (Excess Flood) 11:27:49 *** ryanstubbs has parted #portableapps () 11:29:37 *** Bensawsome (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 11:29:39 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info 11:31:02 *** Bensawsome has quit (Excess Flood) 11:31:28 *** MaienM (n=MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 11:32:38 *** Bensawsome (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 11:32:40 ... 11:34:02 *** Bensawsome has quit (Excess Flood) 11:38:10 *** Bensawsome (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 11:51:25 *** onestoploser (n=onestopl@3.vcty1.xdsl.nauticom.net) has joined #portableapps 12:15:18 *** domecc (i=dcb53869@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-84ac7806e88e14dc) has joined #portableapps 12:16:56 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 12:16:57 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 12:17:33 *** domecc has quit (Client Quit) 12:21:48 *** Suiseiseki (n=desurage@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 12:49:42 *** matborden (n=Miranda@fl-76-4-118-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #portableapps 13:01:23 *** DaveDixonII (n=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 13:01:23 DaveDixonII is dbdii407. PortableApps.com developer and ScrapIRC Network Founder. 13:14:11 * DaveDixonII pokes ZachThibeau. 13:14:23 Should i bug you now or do you want me to wait? 13:14:28 *** PortableAppsGuy (n=Compaq_O@66.43.242.42) has joined #portableapps 13:14:44 *** PortableAppsGuy has parted #portableapps () 13:15:22 *** daBomb69 (n=Compaq_O@66.43.242.42) has joined #portableapps 13:34:28 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 13:50:22 *** leftyfb has quit ("Leaving") 14:00:52 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 14:00:52 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 14:02:01 *** DaveDixonII has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:10:27 *** DaveDixonII (n=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 14:10:27 DaveDixonII is dbdii407. PortableApps.com developer and ScrapIRC Network Founder. 14:24:19 *** Brando has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 14:37:05 *** Havvy (i=47ecb648@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-823c6532ca06d0b2) has joined #portableapps 14:40:02 *** TheWarden (i=thewarde@venhost.venmarces.com) has joined #portableapps 14:40:42 *** pa_9374 (i=9b1fae53@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-521fbe6c89e7f70d) has joined #portableapps 14:40:56 *** pa_9374 has quit (Client Quit) 14:44:09 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Euphonium|away 14:51:55 *** daBomb69 has parted #portableapps () 15:06:33 *** Havvy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 15:17:33 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps 15:20:58 KevinPorter: PM 15:24:18 *** pa_3588 (i=7c0d938b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cebf380efdbe1599) has joined #portableapps 15:25:16 help! Is there a way to create folder in PortableApps Application Menu? 15:26:00 Not at this time. 15:26:07 We might add that feature in the future though. :) 15:26:24 Thanks for confirming KevinPorter! 15:26:39 You're very welcome. 15:27:11 *** pa_3588 has quit (Client Quit) 15:28:29 KevinPorter: I think he meant categories :P 15:28:37 http://lifehacker.com/5167293/portableappscom-suite-15-improves-menu-looks-customization 15:31:14 ZachThibeau: Meh. 15:32:45 Second commenter on that story must be a tad loopy. 15:52:23 *** markomlm has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:52:35 *** Havvy (i=a9ccd474@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e8181fa613dfc72d) has joined #portableapps 16:06:26 *** dzjepp (n=menace2s@adsl-99-141-130-61.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 16:12:53 *** leftyfb (i=leftyfb@ubuntu/member/leftyfb) has joined #portableapps 16:13:23 congrats on the new release and lifehacker article 16:20:02 thanks leftyfb 16:22:47 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 16:22:47 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 16:22:53 hola 16:23:39 JohnTHaller: congrats on the new release and lifehacker article 16:25:45 thanks 16:26:39 Has anybody here been able to recreate this issue: http://portableapps.com/node/18418 16:35:02 *** matborden has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:35:50 JohnTHaller: I've heard about that before I think, if I remember correctly it was because the user has two instances of the menu open (one older version) 16:37:20 ehm, see that not the issue, my bad 16:41:09 *** Havvy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 19:51:14 *** palogbot (n=palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 19:51:14 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com Support Channel | New Releases & Updates: http://PortableApps.com/News | Looking for support? 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 19:51:37 how 19:51:41 the mehthod is still beeing developed by John 19:51:58 is there a beta? 19:52:06 oh 19:52:08 http://portableapps.com/node/13770 19:52:23 hi john 19:52:31 there are also other methods that take advantage of a program called u3, but it only works on drives that have this program pre installed 19:54:29 so ow oes u3 do it hn? 19:54:34 then* 19:54:36 anyone have a 16GB+ memory pen? 19:55:00 pa_2829: its a hardware thing 19:55:06 pa_2829, there is a low level hack that you can do that makes u3 autostart the menu, but it requires special hardware 19:55:12 and u3 preinstalled 19:55:20 otherwise it will not work 19:55:24 it requires a U3 drive. 19:55:30 yep 19:56:08 What are the best portable games? 19:56:11 what it does is the U3 drives have the USB drive partition and a fake CD partition. the CD autoruns their menu. 19:56:46 we take advantage of their menu that allows autoruning, insert the portableapps menu into the autorun line up and voila 19:56:46 is that legal and can u do it for this? 19:57:05 if you have a u3 drive 19:57:05 im not sure if it is legal 19:57:05 anc96: LBreakout2 Portable 19:57:22 daBomb69: I didn't like that 19:57:27 deleted it :( 19:57:36 anc96, minesperfict portable 19:57:38 i like them sorta games 19:57:38 anc96, me2 19:57:41 Frets on Fire Portable 19:57:42 any other way 19:57:52 numpty physics....love but its still a beta 19:57:54 pa_2829: not without a u3 drive 19:58:02 k thx 19:58:06 *** pa_2829 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 19:58:26 *** pa_8796 (i=63f86cd4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-91b8e3845ec77a11) has joined #portableapps 19:58:49 anc96: http://portableapps.com/node/16490 19:59:08 Hello pa_8796 19:59:44 is tere apogram to make he program (manager) open up automatically? 19:59:46 SilentWalker: download now 19:59:51 There* 19:59:59 the* 20:00:28 pa_8796: you mean the menu? 20:00:46 I think I found a bug 20:01:05 Bensawsome: i think he means task manager 20:01:06 pa_8796: Not without a U3 drive 20:01:07 anc96: tell us plz :O 20:01:35 When you install an app (its happened with all the ones I have installed) when it is Refreshing the PA menu, it doesnt finsih 20:01:37 really that sucks 20:01:49 you have to CTRL ALT DEL and end process 20:01:54 anc96: Which app did u try to install? 20:02:14 pa_8796: also you just asked the question :/ just because you come in again doesnt mean we are ghonna give you a different answer :/ 20:02:28 they install fine and appear on the menu, but the installer wont end 20:02:34 * daBomb69 has noticed that bug 2 with certain apps 20:02:42 anc96: do you have any other menu? 20:02:46 installed on ur drive? 20:02:51 like a mod? 20:02:53 no 20:02:56 Bensawsome: he's right 20:02:57 hmmm 20:03:00 Kompozer, Notepad 20:03:05 I had it happen with all my apps I updated the other day from JohnTHaller 20:03:08 notepad++ i mean 20:03:09 ya 20:03:11 i did too 20:03:23 what can i do? 20:03:29 JohnTHaller told me it was because of the menu mod i had on my drive :/ 20:03:42 I have no menu mods, just the menu. 20:03:44 no...you have to wait for the process to terminate....its copying and saving the settings on your drive.......it will disappear from the process list after a while 20:03:45 anc96: does it say "refreshing portableaps.com platform" 20:03:48 i dont have any mods 20:03:51 no 20:03:58 Well, I've tried this with mods, with out mods, etc. it still hangs 20:04:05 wierd.... 20:04:05 it says something like refreshing portable apps menu 20:04:11 :D 20:04:15 thats what i mean 20:04:18 i got the same thing 20:04:22 * daBomb69 did 2 20:04:23 so its not the mods i have installed 20:04:40 Ok, we've had a few reports of this, so lets try and nail this diwbn 20:04:42 down 20:04:45 ok 20:04:56 JohnTHaller: fire away 20:04:57 Yay 20:04:57 No matter what I do, I can't recreate the issue, so please bare with me. 20:05:13 Should we do a screenshot of it? 20:05:14 one question though JohnTHaller, and it might be the issue 20:05:16 Where is your copy of the PortableApps.com Platform installed to? 20:05:25 My pen drive 20:05:26 screenshot will not help 20:05:30 ok 20:05:30 Gizmokid2005: what 20:05:38 i need an app to install :D 20:05:54 do bonkenc 20:05:54 JohnTHaller: I am willing to bet that most of us didnt' remove the previous install of the menu, so, I know for me, I have a PortableApps.com folder and a PortableAppsMenu folder... 20:05:58 maybe it's dying on that? 20:06:11 this is my first version of AP 20:06:12 No, I mean what path. Normally it is installed to the root directory of your portable device. like X:\. and that is where StartPortableApps.exe is 20:06:12 PA 20:06:15 X:\PortableApps\Portableapps.com 20:06:28 it is installed to the root of my drive 20:06:32 Gizmokid2005: anc96 said he didnt have any mods or anything though and his hanged :/ 20:06:44 Bensawsome: those weren't mods, just the OLD version of the menu 20:06:48 could it be the fact that i have another folder in the root? 20:06:52 STOP THE NOISE PLEASE 20:06:54 * daBomb69 did remove the old menu, still hangs 20:06:57 NOW! 20:07:03 noise? 20:07:16 IE - shut up. PLEASE. 20:07:31 the continuous I did this then that. we're trying to work thruogh a series of steps and possibilities. and having others chattering doesn't help 20:07:37 anc96: not you 20:07:43 oh, ok 20:07:51 i am gonna install an app and take a screenie 20:07:56 anc96: Ok, next, close your copy of the PortableApps.com Platform and make sure no copies are running 20:08:02 screenshots will NOT help 20:08:08 *** SilentWalker has quit ("Leaving.") 20:08:10 oh, ok 20:08:14 Please run through these steps one at a time 20:08:24 exited AP 20:08:25 PA 20:08:28 Close all your portable apps and close the PortableApps.com Platform 20:08:31 *** TimClark (i=808737e1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7108187a6e72d772) has joined #portableapps 20:08:32 TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many | And from all the lands on earth we come | We share a dream and sing with one voice | I am | You are | We are PAppsian " :) 20:08:34 have done 20:08:37 *** SilentWalker (n=SilentWa@CPE0015f274609b-CM001ceab5de6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #portableapps 20:08:39 except Firefoxp Portable if that's what you're using to communicate 20:08:51 i am using FF installed on my pc 20:09:20 Ok, bring up task manger (right-click on your windows start bar to get it) and be sure you see no copies of PortableAppsPlatform.exe 20:09:44 none :D 20:10:16 Ok. Browse to X:\PortableApps on your portable device and ensure in there you have a PortableApps.com directory and no PortableAppsMenu directory 20:11:01 i have a PortableApps.com directory and not a PortableAppsMenu directory 20:11:13 Ok 20:11:30 Run StartPortableApps.exe within the root directory of your drive and start the menu 20:12:01 opened :D 20:12:16 Ok, check task manager again and be sure only one copy of the platform is running 20:12:32 PortableAppsPlatform.exe 20:12:50 yep 20:12:52 only one 20:13:21 Ok. Do you have 7-Zip Portable installed? 20:13:32 no, should I? 20:13:55 Nope. But it's tiny (1mb download) and has the latest installer to be sure. 20:13:56 http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/7-zip_portable 20:14:10 I'll install it then :) 20:14:19 Ok, where are you downloading the installer to/ 20:14:44 *** anc96 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20:14:51 :-( 20:14:54 *** anc96 (i=52003c2c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-388e41061077823e) has joined #portableapps 20:15:00 my desktop 20:15:07 sorry, clicked i link by accident 20:15:11 Ok, download it and run it. 20:15:21 ANd let me know the path is gives by default in the installer 20:15:27 run it or install it from inside the PA? 20:15:34 run it directly 20:15:37 ok 20:16:00 G:\PortableApps\7-ZipPortable 20:16:09 Good it found it. Ok, continue on.. 20:16:27 installing on my G drive 20:16:32 nice blue light flashing :) 20:16:36 heh 20:16:43 and it's stuck 20:16:51 On Refreshing Menu 20:16:54 not frozen, it just can't see to do it 20:16:56 yes 20:17:05 Ok, can you access the PortableApps.com Platform/ 20:17:21 *** andreasma (n=andi@p3E9D20DF.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 20:17:22 yes, and as always, its there 20:17:24 bring up the menu, click help about. stuff like that 20:17:32 ok 20:17:54 I just terminated the installer as i usuallly do 20:17:58 no no 20:18:02 crap 20:18:04 I didn't want you to do that yet 20:18:04 sorry 20:18:09 one sec 20:18:13 i will uninstall it 20:18:52 alright. close it all. uninstall 7zip and start again. same set of steps 20:18:56 there we go 20:18:57 will do 20:19:07 do i have PA open at the same time? 20:19:14 yes, pa menu should be open 20:19:19 ok 20:19:21 running, that is 20:19:28 yeh 20:19:56 when it gets stuck aghain, be sure the menu still works. like you can bring it up. click on help about and get the about window, basically 20:19:58 there we go, back to the bit where i was 20:20:05 but don't kill the installer 20:20:10 ok 20:20:15 i can get to the about section 20:20:26 Ok, so the message isn't getting received by the platform 20:20:34 (if it was, it would have frozen the menu) 20:20:38 ok 20:20:46 well, it does appear in the platform 20:20:50 and i could open it if u want me to 20:20:54 Wait, it appeared? 20:21:14 yes, it always does, its just the installer stops when it is refreshing the menu 20:21:34 that's what that means, though. if it appears, then the installer DID refresh the menu 20:22:03 but it isnt closeable 20:22:13 it has to be terminated 20:22:28 yeah, i know... which is weire 20:22:40 Ok, some details on your system.. 20:22:51 JohnTHaller, im doing a manual install right now, one of the installers finished refreshing the menu and then the menu went all funkey after it was frozen 20:22:54 ok, feel free to laugh: 20:22:55 what OS and what service pack level. what antivirus are you running. what firewall are you running. 20:23:08 Windows XP SP3 20:23:11 SergentSiler: STOP, I'm working with one set 20:23:29 Anti virus, firewall: I'm pretty sure I have none running 20:23:40 i know - noobish :D 20:23:47 Not even Antivir or AVG. Or the built in Windows Defender? 20:23:58 i MIGHT have windows firewall 20:24:00 will check 20:24:25 windows firewall is also off :D 20:25:09 and I download stuff all the time 20:25:16 but never seem to come across any viruses 20:25:48 next step? 20:26:09 Hmm... what else is running on your PC atm. Posting a screenshot of task manager would be fine 20:26:31 which tab? apps? process? 20:26:47 processes 20:27:17 I cant fit it all in one screenie 20:27:46 2 then 20:28:12 ok 20:30:00 i put them in order, most memory consuming at the top 20:30:30 JohnTHaller: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8525/32312702.png 20:30:51 click it for a new windows 20:30:54 window 20:31:00 brb 20:31:22 *** pa_2397 (i=63e37354@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3de1d685cbfde04e) has joined #portableapps 20:31:31 *** pa_2397 has quit (Client Quit) 20:31:44 back 20:32:08 JohnTHaller: u get the pic? 20:33:03 Ok. What else is running on your system. Can you close all nonessentials and then close anything else running in systray? 20:33:19 exited autobahn 20:33:30 will terminate vnc server now 20:33:53 there we go 20:34:11 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 20:34:29 anything else running? 20:34:33 all i have open now really is firefox and the 'frozen' installer 20:34:42 kill off the installer 20:34:56 delete the 7-zip portable install and click options - refresh app icons in the PA menu 20:35:14 terminate the installer? 20:35:51 yea 20:36:04 app icons refreshed 20:36:26 froze for a sec but back now 20:36:57 *** Gizmokid2005|1 (n=Gizmokid@75-128-116-166.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 20:37:01 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@clsm-74-46-42-247-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 20:37:01 Oni-Neoxes is liking his new desktop: http://tinyurl.com/dz2xmb 20:37:17 ok, try installing 7-Zip portable again just in case oner of those other apps was messing it up 20:37:33 ok 20:37:42 ill uninstall it first :D 20:37:49 *** Gizmokid2005 has quit (Nick collision from services.) 20:37:50 so that means i will need to exit PA 20:38:02 no,7-zuip is gone right? 20:38:15 you can delete apps with the menu running 20:38:19 oh 20:38:24 *** Gizmokid2005|1 is now known as Gizmokid2005 20:38:26 i will reopen it them 20:38:29 then 20:38:43 should i install from menu or directly? 20:39:05 directly again 20:39:09 ok 20:39:10 just to see fi it still freezes 20:39:49 k 20:40:11 *** pa_8796 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20:40:33 yep 20:40:35 frooze 20:40:57 same palce 20:40:59 place 20:41:00 Ok. Thanks. I think I have enough infor on it. 20:41:04 trying to refresh the menu 20:41:05 Still refreshed in the menu right? 20:41:06 ok 20:41:20 no, i mean without clicking options - refresh, did the menu auto refresh 20:41:27 yes 20:41:31 the installer refreshed it 20:41:36 as the 7zip icon is there 20:41:58 yeah. Ok. something else on your system is holding it up, just not sure what. So I'll disable this in the 1.5.1 build to avoid these issues and approach it differently in the PA installer 20:42:13 ok 20:42:20 any idea when it will be released? 20:42:51 tonoght or tomorrow am 20:42:58 ok 20:43:12 what tz you in? gmt? 20:43:58 btw, can i kill the installer now? :) 20:44:02 nyc 20:44:05 yes 20:44:09 thanks 20:44:22 thanks for helping me :D 20:45:00 is it you that makes the fork, geekmenu, or is that someone else? 20:45:30 pabot: I like your desktop 20:45:44 how did you get the PA start button? 20:46:21 anc96: u mean Oni-Neoxes 20:46:31 oh :D 20:46:34 ? 20:46:49 what about me? 20:46:59 Oni-Neoxes: how did you make that task bar with the PA icon on it? 20:47:13 OH! 20:47:14 okay 20:47:21 hold on. I get a few links 20:47:24 ty 20:49:22 ok 20:49:34 http://ptc.kain-planet.de/details.php?file=119 20:49:37 Thats the Theme 20:49:37 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:50:12 So download that and extract it 20:50:28 does it only activate when PA is running? 20:50:55 JohnTHaller: sorry for the interuptions during your support, it is a recurrent problem with some folks :( 20:51:07 Its a Windows XP Theme 20:51:12 it's always there 20:51:12 oh 20:51:17 nvm then 20:51:25 JohnTHaller: If you want more testing, let me know, I'll try it to. It hangs like it did for anc96 on my desktop, but if i load it in my Vista VM it works as it should. 20:51:38 oh. okay 20:51:53 it would be good if PA had the ability take activate a custom theme when running :P 20:53:00 btw, I tried the desktop switcher and when i run the app, the desktop bkg just turns blue 20:54:14 you need a hacked uxtheme.dll file 20:54:54 uxthemepatcher 20:54:56 FTW 20:55:02 yerp 20:55:20 *** SilentWalker has quit ("Leaving.") 20:55:36 oh 20:55:46 is that mentioned in PA? 20:56:14 *** andreasma has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:58:03 *** Blister75 (i=440de3be@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fd5f88affb58effd) has joined #portableapps 20:58:43 Hello Blister75 :) 20:58:47 hi 20:58:57 hi 20:59:08 Do you need help with anything , or just visting Blister75 ? 20:59:27 i need help with removing a icon 20:59:54 Which icon? 20:59:54 support is now occuring with Blister75 21:00:05 ok 21:00:28 as anc96 said, what icon Blister75 21:00:34 one in the portable apps menu 21:00:53 you want to make it invisible 21:00:58 yes 21:01:23 right click on it and put in a - <- 21:01:59 also see this Blister75 http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#hidingicons 21:02:30 *** Euphonium|away is now known as Suiseiseki 21:02:34 i can't right click 21:03:20 like i said i can't right click 21:03:25 Blister75: please explain, you mouse does not have a right click 21:03:47 no when i right click in the menu window, nothing happens 21:04:16 what version of the menu are you using, when did you download it 21:05:15 i downloaded it last week 21:05:29 download the new version please 21:05:33 it's version 1.1 21:05:36 *** SilentWalker (n=SilentWa@CPE0015f274609b-CM001ceab5de6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #portableapps 21:05:36 SilentWalker is new to the #portableapps IRC channel, but loves it:) 21:06:00 you need 1.5 :) 21:06:19 i see 21:06:27 when did it get updated? 21:06:45 this weekend 21:06:49 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 21:07:21 do i just install it, or do i need to uninstall first? 21:07:24 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 21:07:38 you can install it right over your old menu 21:07:43 cool 21:08:16 how often do you update it? 21:09:21 that is a difficult question to answer, we may be testing a 2.X version next week, but it will be beta 21:10:02 i installed the new version and the icons i was trying to remove disappered 21:10:07 *** AppGuy (i=4125189f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-996eb4935597134a) has joined #portableapps 21:10:23 also they are a non-portable apps folder 21:10:45 *** AppGuy has quit (Client Quit) 21:11:04 Blister75: that is what you wanted, right ? 21:11:35 yes, but i didn't rename it even. 21:12:06 you did not ask about renameing it, you wanted to hide it, remember 21:12:40 yes but you have to rename it to - to do that, right? 21:12:50 oh, you mean it did it on its own ? 21:13:04 yes, but i found out why 21:13:15 Ok, tell us ? 21:13:44 i have a ini file that i had placed the entry's into 21:14:22 i thought the ini was replaced. 21:14:29 where is the .ini file located ? 21:14:51 \PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data 21:15:40 so, are you ok now ? 21:15:48 i read the help page and figured what the line would be from where it tells you how to get the icon back 21:15:56 yes thanks! :) 21:16:03 good for you :D 21:16:22 *** Blister75 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21:16:48 TimClark: would you need any testers for 2.x? 21:16:59 And guys, thanks for not trampleing support :) 21:17:22 anc96: all are welcome to test, just make you back up your original 21:18:14 And yes guys, I looked into -ot for you ideas ;) 21:18:38 The floor is open for general p-appsian chat :D 21:19:01 *** onestoploser has parted #portableapps () 21:19:33 * MaienM slaps C++ 21:19:42 loool 21:20:01 MaienM: is that you way of saying you are having a problem with C++ 21:20:09 kinda :P 21:20:27 I wouldn't slap it if it would just do what I want it to 21:20:50 lol 21:21:38 *** PatrickP|Away is now known as PatrickPatience 21:22:00 Well that 'Friends' box is just comical: http://lifehacker.com/people/JohnTHaller/ 21:22:39 PatrickPatience: lol! THat it is. 21:22:55 *** SilentWalker has quit ("Leaving.") 21:22:55 Granted mine is the same. :-P 21:23:09 lol 21:23:09 I don't even have one :) (trying to save face) 21:23:23 And back to work. 21:23:24 Peace. 21:23:56 *** PatrickPatience is now known as PatrickP|Away 21:24:00 *** homexcid3 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21:24:10 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Bye D:") 21:24:18 do any of you guys know whether sf.net allows FTP downloads? 21:25:37 *** DoctorDude (i=53ffd1ae@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4b1aef9be71434c2) has joined #portableapps 21:26:27 Hi I need help 21:26:40 hello DoctorDude, how can we help you? 21:26:41 DoctorDude: what can we assist with? 21:27:11 *** anc96 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21:30:42 DoctorDude: Gizmokid2005 is ready and willing to help you, do you need more time ? 21:30:53 almost done 21:31:40 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 21:31:44 soon have a lot to write 21:33:39 MaienM: No FTP downlolads ffom SF 21:33:49 Most places have ditched public FTP downlolads 21:34:01 :( 21:34:55 http://portableapps.com/node/18467 21:35:17 John, you up for discussion on that topic yet? 21:36:35 we will. not be doing that. there's no value to 99.99% of users 21:36:54 I was on a website http://www.videodownloader.fdrlab.com/ and they have a software called Easy Video Downloader. And I did download it. But It can only be installed on a computer. And there are only without the installer. And i was thinking about making it to a portable. But I am not sure if it is legel. Because It says that I can not get pissed of if it makes my computer work funny. And to use it for personal use 21:38:48 No value in having a menu that only shows the apps you need for the particular task you are doing? 21:39:04 sorry misspelled 21:39:32 I mean And there are only with the installer. 21:39:51 Or loading an app to perform a particular function without loading the whole platform? 21:40:20 Everything we do is platform specific. The platform is designed for a single user. Profiles are primarily of value to multiple users. 21:40:47 Have something that asks if you want to load this or that... that's what the platform is. 21:40:47 *** pa_5334 (i=5841fcea@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7af9314e09416983) has joined #portableapps 21:40:59 As for stuff for specific tasks, that's what categories are for. 21:41:36 Higuys, quick question,what is the name of the folder for theVideo link out of the app? 21:42:02 X:\Documents\Video when the platform is installed to the root directory 21:42:03 yes, but say you want to just plug your drive in and have it run a virus scan, and walk away, without having to load the platform, then clamwin then set up a scan 21:42:08 No just if it is legel to make one software portable if they dont say anything about that in the agreement. 21:42:32 DoctorDude: No, it is not. You can probably mess with it personally. But you can't give it to someoneo else. 21:42:34 DoctorDude: do they say anything about distributing the app? and modifying? 21:42:57 Unless you have something that SPECIFICALLY give you permission, you can not. 21:43:22 dragonmage: So the platform comes up and you run clamwin then close it and leave 21:43:32 thx 21:43:32 or, plug in drive and run Updates and walk away 21:44:03 No just in basic words install on your own risk. And use it for home use. 21:44:05 the thing that lets you choose which app to run IS the platform. why would we have ANOTHER app picker come up before it? 21:44:26 DoctorDude: Then it is illegal unless you get permission from them. 21:44:44 I did emailed but they did not emailed back to me 21:44:49 or plug in drive run Download podcasts and walk away 21:45:02 Ok, ok I see where you are coming from 21:45:21 *** pa_5334 has quit (Client Quit) 21:45:42 I still think it would be handy though 21:46:06 Should I email to them again? 21:46:13 *** Roamer (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.80.44.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 21:46:14 Roamer is one of the Linux geeks that are found here from time to time. 21:46:23 extra work and kludgey, honestly 21:46:40 and it wouldn't really be an app picker, it would be a task starter, predfined commands to perform specific functions then exit 21:47:12 but I aquiesce to your argument 21:47:42 *** DoctorDude has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21:49:01 but, say I wanted to learn a language to make something like that for myself... 21:49:12 nsis? ahk? 21:49:50 autoit? 21:51:37 dragonmage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language 21:52:43 You know, John I can see why you cringe when I pop up, but one day you will say "You know, I'm glad dragonmage was there coming at this thing from all sorts of crazy directions..." 21:56:01 *** alpha1beta (n=michael@unaffiliated/alpha1beta) has joined #portableapps 21:56:08 hey guys 21:56:31 songbird 1.1.1 is out! 21:56:58 !_! Must get! 21:57:05 *** TheWarden has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") 21:57:42 alpha1beta: !!! WOOT! 21:57:49 I'll have to drop it in my portable folder for it :0 21:57:51 *:) 21:57:55 yea, and read their blog, bunch of new things! 21:58:10 there better be :P 21:58:32 it was funny, cause I checked for updated about an hour ago one 1 computer, and it was still b3, I checked on another computer now, and there it was :D 21:58:33 John, Rainy released another test today that is supposed to correct the reporting of drive space for removable drives problem I was talking about 21:58:49 I'm going to test now 21:59:32 new songbird things? oooohhh 21:59:50 yea, including using it to play music from a url 21:59:52 songbird:open?url=http%3A%2F%2Flast.fm 21:59:55 no. no distractions, gotta test rainmeter 22:00:11 O_O NEW SONGBIRD ^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^ 22:00:19 *** JohnTHaller has quit ("Leaving.") 22:00:32 you scared him off! 22:00:33 dragonmage lol *distract* 22:00:44 Bensawsome: you scared John!!! 22:00:50 lol 22:01:21 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 22:01:26 wtf? i just opened songbird... and my firewall told me its trying to acces the internet via microsoft activesync... 22:01:28 wierd... 22:01:31 nite MaienM|Sleep ^_^ 22:01:51 update addons maybe? 22:01:56 :/ 22:02:08 i dont think i have addons which intereact with as 22:04:50 YES!!! 22:04:58 I love Rainy 22:05:03 he fixed it 22:05:56 holy crap, songbird uses a lot less resources now 22:06:07 what is 7digital? 22:06:22 a music store 22:06:33 *** leftyfb has quit ("Leaving") 22:06:44 i know that... 22:06:53 lol 22:07:06 beyond that idk, but addon is for intergration with songbird and 7digital 22:07:34 you know what would be amazing? if they somehow got it integrated with the itunes store XD THAT WOULD BE HILARIOUS 22:07:46 what would be even more hilarious is that apple would LET them XD 22:07:59 that would be the death if itunes 22:08:06 lol ya 22:08:23 the program, not the service 22:08:27 ya 22:08:55 well if songbird can ever get itself to sync with iphones/ipod touches 22:09:14 AND scrobble the played tracks to last.fm 22:09:21 lol 22:09:33 it does that already sar3th 22:09:37 works very well 22:09:47 really? o0 22:09:53 yep 22:10:12 there's a number of addons to do it with, last.fm is the best 22:10:13 tracks that i played on my ipod? it scrobbles them? 22:10:25 oh no, tracks played in sb 22:10:39 but there is a songbird remote for the itouch 22:10:48 YA I KNOW! its so cool ^_^_^_^ 22:10:52 * daBomb69 hopes someone does songbird portable 1.1.1:D 22:11:01 rmccue will 22:11:03 rmccue it will be >_> 22:11:10 OhRly? 22:11:13 yarly! 22:11:25 it'll tell him the new version is out and he'll update it soon enough 22:11:59 i bet someone will post on the forums for it if it isnt done within a day XD 22:12:12 *** Roamer_ (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.80.154.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 22:12:22 I bet 3 people will post, and 10 will yell at them to wait 22:12:26 *** sar3th has quit ("reconnect") 22:12:42 nahh not yet, it just came out like an hour ago 22:12:50 So! 22:12:59 *** Roamer has quit (Nick collision from services.) 22:13:03 *** Roamer_ is now known as Roamer 22:13:57 new itouch remote thingy too, sweet! 22:14:06 AGH ITS NOT AN ITOUCH 22:14:12 its an iPod Touch 22:14:13 RAWR 22:14:21 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@port-92-205-52-68.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #portableapps 22:14:22 sar3th is working on LyX portable 22:14:28 bad puppy 22:14:29 ... 22:14:42 iTouch! iTouch! iTouch! 22:14:50 * Bensawsome kills Roamer 22:14:52 Roamer: I'm actually with Ben on this one. :P 22:14:53 iPod Touch!!! 22:15:04 EXACTLY 22:15:05 lol 22:15:12 itouch 22:15:19 utouch 22:15:22 wealltouch 22:15:31 KevinPorter: mute the next one who says it XD 22:15:38 lol nice alpha1beta :P 22:15:38 itouch 22:15:43 I'm not *that* evil Bensawsome. :P 22:15:48 darn >_> 22:15:59 *** anc96 (i=52003c2c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-276e6fe0f88d9f74) has joined #portableapps 22:16:07 * daBomb69 thinks that either way, it's still an over-pirced restricteve chuck of hardware 22:16:11 hello 22:16:12 I agree 22:16:15 chuck? 22:16:16 :P 22:16:19 I love my iPod touch. 22:16:20 * Roamer puts +q on daBomb69. 22:16:22 *chunck 22:16:27 hey anc09 can we help you? 22:16:28 i have an ipod touch! 22:16:28 But then again, I jailbroke mine. 22:16:30 wat does +p mean? 22:16:31 96* 22:16:36 ipod touch ftw ^_^ 22:16:40 daBomb69: thats +q 22:16:43 and it mutes you 22:16:46 oh 22:16:47 KevinPorter: When generation? 22:16:50 guys! 22:16:55 that didn't work 22:16:57 anc96: First gen. 22:16:59 anc96 do you need help? 22:17:07 I was in here earlier 22:17:14 just came in here coz I could :D 22:17:14 ok 22:17:24 lol 22:18:16 wat ya'll think is worse, the iPod, ur the zune? 22:18:23 Zune 22:18:26 Zune 22:18:42 iPod touch > Zune > iPod. 22:18:54 KevinPorter: yeh :D 22:18:57 XD 22:19:01 *** KevinPorter is now known as KevinPorter|away 22:19:06 I had a Zune. The warrenty ran out. Zune died. 22:19:10 what does xd actually mean? 22:19:12 I no like zunes. 22:19:18 It's very sad when the audio world is ruled by either MS or Apple 22:19:24 big laugh, anc96 22:19:24 *** daBomb69 is now known as daBomb69|Eating 22:19:26 Roamer: its like that with all M$ products 22:19:37 thanks roamer 22:19:48 I know. That why i use linux as much as i can :D 22:19:57 when my 360 died, i was lucky enough to have a warranty! 22:20:58 hmm... 22:21:09 * Roamer gets an idea... he goes off to search... 22:21:12 I've never had an ipod or zune, but as far as audio players, I'm happy with my little Sansa Express 22:21:19 sansa connect FTW 22:21:38 *** ptmb (n=PTMblogg@bl8-61-229.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #portableapps 22:21:38 ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/ 22:22:04 don't know about the sansa connect, I don't use it 22:22:20 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Euphonium|away 22:22:45 who or what is pabot? 22:22:54 a bot 22:23:21 it provides help like .pa stuff 22:23:30 .pa firefox portable 22:23:43 pabot? 22:23:47 pabot! 22:23:48 alpha1beta! 22:23:54 hi pabot! 22:23:54 Hi alpha1beta 22:24:10 .g Firefox Portable 22:24:11 alpha1beta: i think that has been broken for a while :/ 22:24:12 Roamer: http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable 22:24:18 .yi 22:24:19 Not yet... 22:24:19 or... 22:24:21 .pa toucan 22:24:28 hmm seems so 22:24:34 pabot is alive! 22:24:36 .g toucan site:portableapps.com 22:24:37 Bensawsome: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/toucan 22:24:43 that works too ^_^ 22:24:48 thats all that .pa does :/ 22:24:55 except it makes a P 22:24:58 :P* 22:25:20 pabot should have a command to tell what modules it has loaded 22:25:35 it does 22:25:41 /msg pabot .commands 22:26:24 how do we make the pabot talk? 22:27:10 *** rcmaehl (i=601c5c81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0a8ee7735fee7289) has joined #portableapps 22:27:12 use a command 22:27:19 .o christmas_yet 22:27:21 No! Thou purpled dread-bolted death-token! 22:28:07 i dont know how to comand the pabot 22:28:13 .o echo Oh really? 22:28:14 Oh really? 22:28:22 ah 22:28:26 nope lol 22:28:27 .o echo Hiya 22:28:28 Hiya 22:28:38 .o echo Kool! 22:28:39 Kool! 22:28:41 the echo command wil result in being kick 22:28:43 thats fun 22:28:45 oh 22:28:48 sorry 22:28:50 no anc96 it is not 22:28:51 none of us really do. lol 22:29:06 oh 22:29:17 i didn't read the kick but until after i said thats fun 22:29:21 soz guys 22:29:21 i need help with the AppCompactor 22:29:26 pabot is a tool! you use it to help you 22:29:38 hello rcmaehl, ask your question 22:30:40 I tried using App Compactor on some of my apps and the apps didn't get smaller 22:30:45 why is that? 22:30:56 rcmaehl: on apps release from portableapps.com? 22:31:06 yes 22:31:11 thats because they are already compressed to their max 22:31:25 also you might have broken the apps by doing that :/ 22:31:34 ...oh 22:32:23 No one told me that they where as small as possible... and couldn't get smaller :( 22:33:29 all portableapps.com apps are compressed as much as they can be without breaking 22:35:36 *** anc96 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22:36:27 Question about launchers and saving settings: 22:37:08 Trouble to login at comminity. Used "Request new password" and got e-mail. Open link and got next message: "Access denied 22:37:08 You are not authorized to access this page." I have try befora. Time to give up? 22:37:39 Do most of the launchers copy the settings files to \Data on exit or do they move them there? 22:38:30 hey since all the portable apps are (that one term (SBL?)) does that mean we can do what ever we want with it (other than redistribute) 22:38:54 GPL* 22:39:03 yeah that 22:39:21 basically, yes and you can redistrubte some, not all, and you can't claim you made them 22:40:03 i'm talking about editing,converting them to other formats,etc 22:40:15 like what 22:40:22 7zipping them? 22:40:34 U3ing them for personal use 22:40:49 as in myself only 22:41:08 I don't see anything to say you can't do that, but if your gonna distribute, I'd ask john 22:41:31 but you can't do that with mozilla apps, they use the MPL, but any GPL apps you can do it with 22:41:44 MPL? 22:41:54 mozilla public licence 22:42:22 basically it's the GPL, but it states you can't use their logo, or name, so you can recompile FF, but you need to change the name 22:42:42 reminds me of xchat 22:43:05 yea, kinda the same idea 22:43:38 *** daBomb69|Eating is now known as daBomb69 22:44:25 hey... if get a program, (such as AVG free) are you allowed to put it in U3 format? 22:44:42 it's not GPL, so no 22:45:20 are you allowed to atleast put it on a flashdrive? 22:45:34 *** KevinPorter|away is now known as KevinPorter 22:45:41 that would depend on their licence 22:48:20 rcmaehl: you could just get avast for u3 22:49:09 *** Roamer_ (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.81.0.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 22:49:18 *** Roamer has quit (Nick collision from services.) 22:49:22 *** Roamer_ is now known as Roamer 22:49:22 one sec 22:49:46 *** excid3 (i=4233be19@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a224733edc3ab21e) has joined #portableapps 22:49:47 excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle 22:49:52 *** Roamer is now known as Guest61949 22:50:06 *** Guest61949 is now known as Roamer 22:50:14 *** excid3 is now known as Guest9374 22:50:33 whats with all the nick changes 22:50:39 So, I'm assuming most launchers copy settings to \Data 22:50:45 *** Guest9374 is now known as excid3|home 22:50:59 sorry forgot to msg nickserv to identify in time 22:51:01 dragonmage: They should, yes. 22:51:04 we fail at id'ing in time 22:51:18 are there any that move them to save space? 22:51:24 can anyone point me to a very good cross browser way of making rounded corners on websites? 22:51:49 excid3|home: images, png 22:51:57 dragonmage: I'm not sure what you mean by that, because no matter where something is stored, it takes up the same amount of space. 22:52:20 try this app, stylizer 22:52:26 *** rcmaehl has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22:52:27 I mean by not having two copies of the same files on the drive 22:52:29 lemme find a link 22:52:36 * daBomb69 <3 stylizer 22:52:50 http://www.skybound.ca/ 22:53:10 *** rcmaehl (i=601c5c81@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c9b0c413f179f757) has joined #portableapps 22:53:14 try that excid3|home 22:53:22 has anyone heard of 'Rico' ? 22:53:24 *** excid3|home has quit (Client Quit) 22:53:41 dragonmage: Hmm... not too sure. 22:54:18 I'm looking to make Rainmeter pap compliant, and the configs would have to be put into \Data to be backed up 22:54:20 *** excid3|home (i=4233be19@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-39c423976a86396f) has joined #portableapps 22:54:48 excid3|home: Rico like Puerto Rico? 22:54:50 avast for u3 costs $$ 22:54:50 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@clsm-74-46-42-247-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 22:54:53 Oni-Neoxes is liking his new desktop: http://tinyurl.com/dz2xmb 22:55:18 lol 22:55:24 daBomb69: no :P 22:55:36 thanks for the stylizer link guys, looks nice 22:55:43 my current \Skin folder is 720k so if it were to be copied to \Data it would be using close to a meg and a half on the drive 22:55:54 1 bad part of stylizer, it needs .net 22:56:00 rcmaehl: i use it and it did not cost me a cent 22:56:08 yea, it's awesome, but it only works for 15 days on the professional version until you have to pay or use the basic version 22:56:31 it looks like a firefox browser with custom extensions 22:56:35 Oni-Neoxes: you should replace luigi with pedobear and it would be perfect 22:56:37 alpha1beta: that's only for folks who don't know the secrect trick :P 22:56:45 XD Excid 22:56:46 Nice 22:56:59 oh and hi timclark, don't think I said hi yet today :P 22:57:13 however if it were to be moved it would only use the 720k, but there would be greater chance of data loss if something happened 22:57:29 brb 22:57:30 oh, wait alpha1beta were talking to me about the u3 think when you said "...15 days ..." 22:57:42 and hi alpha1beta to you too :D 22:58:15 dragonmage: 720k... I'm not sure I'd worry too much about it unless someone whines. 22:58:25 dragonmage: and that's why we don't want to move it 22:59:19 yes, but if people start putting in multiple sets of configs the size would start jumping up 22:59:27 *** DoctorDude (i=53ffd1ae@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8ca98587cd4ac7bb) has joined #portableapps 23:00:03 the basic version just lacks some cool feature, but still works 23:00:15 Hi They are many PortableApps Aterntives. But which are legel and which are not? 23:00:31 Mine is only the configs that I am making for the Sputnik theme I am doing, and I'm not close to done adding stuff to it 23:00:35 Portableapps.com and Portablefreeware.com are legal 23:00:49 Most of the rest have some quality of illicitness 23:01:13 nice word 23:01:15 DoctorDude: There are hundreds out there, and it's hard to go through each one, but just stick to ones that are well-known and respected. That'll keep you safe. :) 23:01:17 lol 23:01:49 how bout illiciticity? 23:01:52 is putting itunes on a usb drive illegal? 23:02:02 No, but it won't work. 23:02:25 <_< 23:02:27 why 23:03:04 registry files most likely 23:03:18 Ya, all of ur info is in registry 23:03:56 *** Roamer_ (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.81.123.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 23:04:04 Ghost! 23:04:07 *** Roamer has quit (Nick collision from services.) 23:04:15 *** Roamer_ is now known as Roamer 23:04:18 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 23:04:20 boo 23:04:41 * alpha1beta jump 23:04:45 jumps* 23:04:53 I think the easiest solution to my problem, is to try and get Rainy to make it configurable where rainmeter looks for it's configs 23:05:00 * alpha1beta lands on roamer and kills him :P 23:05:08 well just see if i can make itunes work on a flash drive 23:05:12 * Roamer is a ghost again... great. 23:05:14 :D 23:05:17 or use songbird! 23:05:41 Songbird! FTW! 23:06:02 I dont like it 23:06:12 buuut. since I recently got more RAM. I'll try it out 23:06:29 new release as of like 2 hours ago, 1.1.1 23:06:29 * Roamer points at Oni-Neoxes! "Judas!" 23:06:31 if I can tell rainmeter to look in \Data\Skins\ for configs then I could store them there and not have to copy or move them 23:06:32 lol 23:06:44 Judas? 23:06:48 Really? Is Portablefreeware.com legel? Makes hard to believe 23:06:56 yea. It's legal 23:07:15 link me to songbird someone >_> 23:07:25 of course that would mean more \..\'s to get the paths working 23:07:28 Oni-Neoxes: major biblical tradior 23:07:28 .g songbird 23:07:30 We only use free and open source software DoctorDude. :) 23:07:30 sar3th: http://www.getsongbird.com/ 23:07:32 http://songbirdnest.com 23:07:42 portable version 23:07:51 .pa songbird 23:08:15 >_> 23:08:17 there isn't an official one yet. 23:08:24 there was a beta release a while back 23:08:27 y doesn't that ever work:( 23:08:36 it needs to be fixsed 23:08:38 Plus once Songbird is full grown it'll be itunes' daddy 23:08:39 .pa myfeedmaker 23:08:40 I dont want to get a local version 23:08:41 daBomb69: http://portableapps.com/node/17000 23:08:49 XD 23:08:53 that was by rmccue back in Dec 23:08:57 with 1.0DT1 23:09:42 yay PAC works on off-brand apps 23:10:30 rcmaehl: yes...read the description...it's supposed to 23:10:31 so portable songbird is not up to date? 23:10:35 Oni-Neoxes: correct 23:10:40 D: 23:10:42 * Bensawsome has the new version of xchat >_> 23:10:45 there was a reason too...but I don't remember why 23:11:29 i got itunes to work on a flash drive! 23:11:40 rcmaehl: now go to a different PC 23:11:42 it will NOT work 23:11:46 Now, go to someone else's computer and test it 23:12:12 bye gents 23:12:13 *** alpha1beta has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 23:12:16 oh it might work, but it won't have his settings 23:12:43 dragonmage: it won't work. 23:12:44 period 23:12:53 itunes requires reg entries in windows 23:13:13 it won't just make it's own default entries? 23:13:26 dragonmage: nope, they are made upon install 23:13:27 not launch 23:13:31 they are required for launch 23:13:38 ahh 23:14:10 but it would use the hosts existing ones if they had itunes installed right? 23:14:19 dragonmage: most likely, yes 23:14:27 but if you take it to a PC w/o iTunes, it won't work 23:14:37 it works! and it has all my setiing 23:14:44 settings* 23:14:58 unless it had a gripe about itunes running from a directory that it doesn't recognize... 23:15:02 b/c 23:15:32 i got a program that allows you to take the programs registry files with you 23:15:51 * Oni-Neoxes face palms 23:15:56 xD 23:16:10 * sar3th prepeares for the worst 23:16:55 rcmaehl, does it also backup the other computers existing settings and restore them when you close itunes? or does it just overwrite their settings and say screw them? 23:17:16 si 23:17:35 rcmaehl: name? 23:18:07 idk it's a collection of dll files or something 23:19:28 rcmaehl: you said you had a program which allows you to make any app portable. please tell me its name 23:19:32 and does it adjust the paths in the settings to point to the music on your portable, so that it can still find them when the drive letter changes? 23:20:23 one sec... 23:20:43 .o christmas_yet 23:20:44 No! Thou queasy toad-spotted barnacle! 23:21:32 daBomb69: what was the pupose of that ? 23:22:02 The purpos was... umm... there was no purpose. 23:22:15 then don abuse the bot for no reason please 23:22:32 Well, it was something interesting to ponder! 23:22:57 ponder it else where 23:22:58 And, can YOU think of a good reason to ever use .o christmas_yet 23:23:05 whats the .o command? 23:23:08 daBomb69: don't question him. 23:23:09 period 23:23:15 if you must do that, do it in PM or -ot 23:23:17 don't abuse the bots. 23:23:33 Oni-Neoxes: .o christmas_yet 23:23:43 thats it? 23:23:46 ya 23:23:51 brb, updating xfire 23:23:53 Oni-Neoxes: no, the .o module does a few things 23:23:54 oops 23:24:01 .o lastfm Gizmokid2005 23:24:01 not xfire. I ment xchat 23:24:06 No user details found. 23:24:08 * daBomb69 requests permision to show Oni-Neoxes what it does 23:24:13 brb 23:24:16 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Bye D:") 23:24:16 Oni-Neoxes: that's how it is "supposed" to work 23:24:31 daBomb69: take it to -ot if you must, or #rmccue 23:24:40 #rmccue? 23:24:47 daBomb69: yes. 23:24:55 that's rmccue's channel, where the bot also resides. 23:25:24 So, the PAbot doesnt reside in the channel for PortableApps, but instead in #rmccue? 23:25:39 daBomb69: it was discussed earlire with you in -ot 23:25:50 daBomb69: it resides in multiple channels....do a /whois pabot 23:25:53 No, the how to make the .def command was 23:26:01 that is where you do .def changes 23:26:07 ok then 23:27:51 *** ptmb1 (n=PTMblogg@bl8-61-229.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #portableapps 23:28:17 *** ptmb has quit (Nick collision from services.) 23:28:22 *** ptmb1 is now known as ptmb 23:28:28 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:28:34 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 23:30:16 *** DoctorDude has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23:32:21 *** ptmb has quit (Client Quit) 23:32:48 *** Roamer has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23:37:11 split/join fest!! w00t 23:37:26 =E 23:37:36 :3 23:40:04 *** AppGuy (i=4125189f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-da94d5623f1605d9) has joined #portableapps 23:40:54 *** Euphonium|away is now known as Euphonium 23:40:58 *** AppGuy has quit (Client Quit) 23:41:16 *** Euphonium is now known as Suiseiseki 23:47:27 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Euphonium|away 23:48:36 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@clsm-74-46-42-247-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 23:48:37 Oni-Neoxes is liking his new desktop: http://tinyurl.com/dz2xmb 23:50:02 * rcmaehl is liking windows 7 23:50:33 * sar3th curses the windows 7 installer 23:51:12 * rcmaehl has windows xp and windows 7 in a dual bootable computer 23:51:49 * sar3th had xp in a truecrypt-encrypted hd - until he installed 7 and it broke everything 23:51:58 enough emotes guys 23:53:04 *** TimClark has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23:57:02 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Bye D:")