00:01:45 *** Euphonium|away is now known as Suiseiseki 00:07:01 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.243.172) has joined #portableapps 00:11:03 what's is your opinion for this http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6769/prograsancaslogo.png 00:11:04 ?? 00:25:18 *** brisa (i=bd516429@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9cdd759f16bf6483) has joined #portableapps 00:26:52 *** rcmaehl has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00:26:52 Hey guys, someboy here knows the name of this theme ? http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7087/comugdporkutep6.jpg 00:29:57 brisa: the XP theme? 00:30:01 it's just a vista skin. 00:31:39 But I guees the OS it's the XP 00:32:52 brisa: that's what it looks like 00:33:19 *** dzjepp (n=menace2s@adsl-99-141-130-61.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 00:33:33 it looks like xp disguised as vista :P 00:34:22 do you guys know the theme name ? 00:34:48 sorry, i don't know the name of this theme 00:36:09 thanks sar3th =D 00:36:32 however, i know a theme which looks a bit similar to it 00:37:00 What is the name ? 00:37:08 http://www.chip.de/ii/124246035_500d3d4f89.jpg 00:37:22 zune theme from microsoft 00:37:24 *** AppGuy (i=4125189f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eccd236d1c9c1145) has joined #portableapps 00:37:41 yeah, that one i do 00:38:41 it's very nice, but i used for a very long time 00:40:24 *** AppGuy has quit (Client Quit) 00:43:19 *** excid3|home has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00:45:48 is everybody here from USA ? 00:45:55 no 00:46:30 where are you from ? 00:47:00 europe 00:47:30 what country ? 00:47:38 germany 00:49:17 FTW 00:49:24 * SergentSiler <3 germany 00:49:47 =) 00:49:54 SergentSilerm, 00:50:01 ? 00:50:01 * daBomb69 <3 germany 00:50:09 SergentSiler, where are you from? 00:50:14 States 00:50:21 (it's pretty late for me :P ) 00:50:26 & daBomb69 ? 00:50:32 third genoration in the us 00:50:38 USA (But Germany still ROX) 00:50:39 mah grandparents were german :P 00:50:44 er 00:50:48 great grandparents 00:51:10 =D so you have german roots 00:51:14 root>all 00:51:15 yes! 00:51:30 * daBomb69 cheers for Grmany! 00:51:32 * SergentSiler is from teh Griesbach family 00:51:36 i'm from Brazil 00:51:52 nice 00:52:00 * SergentSiler has family crest (^_^) 00:52:13 * daBomb69 has his faimly (^_^) 00:52:26 Brazil rocks =D 00:52:28 lol 00:52:51 Doens't Brazil have annacondas? 00:53:06 yes! 00:53:10 lol 00:53:17 * daBomb69 is scared of Brazil 00:53:20 big snakes 00:53:29 python! 00:53:32 OMG 00:53:32 pabot! 00:53:33 sar3th! 00:53:39 pabot! 00:53:39 daBomb69! 00:53:46 brazil has very nice girls dude 00:53:49 doesnt brazil has teh Irucandji? 00:53:59 or however its spelt 00:54:04 brisa: USA has better ones! XD 00:54:11 teh super tiny box jellyfish 00:54:17 super poisonus 00:54:22 no way, brazilian girls are the best 00:54:26 SergentSiler: Thats Australia 00:54:28 ah 00:54:32 * daBomb69 wants 2 go to Brazil now 00:54:46 and brisa, we has teh best girlz next to Brazil ;) 00:54:55 and germany 00:54:58 :) 00:55:11 =D 00:55:15 big ass here, and bobs too 00:55:20 bobs? 00:55:22 spelling FTW 00:55:24 lol 00:55:27 boobz 00:55:31 XD 00:55:32 yay! 00:55:37 wait till the admins see teh logz 00:55:42 yeah, that is it 00:55:44 * SergentSiler runs and hids 00:55:46 er 00:55:48 hides 00:55:53 * daBomb69 was never here! 00:55:59 lol 00:56:17 * sar3th is still afk 00:56:39 "was never here" that one was good =D 00:56:49 :P 00:57:13 G-Rated channel guys 00:57:14 Everyone involed in the Brazil conversation, don't come here 2morrow 00:57:21 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 00:57:22 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 00:57:25 hi JohnTHaller 00:57:26 hola again 00:57:30 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk' 00:57:30 Hello JohnTHaller 00:57:33 hi JohnTHaller 00:57:34 see now you're all in trouble 00:57:38 :P 00:57:49 Is there anybody in here that was having the whole app installer hang issue with PAP 1.5? 00:57:57 Me! 00:58:03 Yeah? Every time? 00:58:07 Yup 00:58:07 i only had the menu freeze and go funky 00:58:20 Ok 00:58:23 SergentSiler: Every time? 00:58:28 no 00:58:40 daBomb69: you gonna be around for a bit? 00:58:44 ya 00:58:59 daBomb69: Like how long? 00:59:11 like couple hours minimum. 00:59:39 good. I could really use your help. I can't reproduce it no matter what I do 00:59:46 Oh, really? 00:59:54 daBomb69: does it happen with all the different app installers? 01:00:07 Like 90% of them at leaste 01:00:11 me too JohnTHaller 01:00:29 Ah good. Two data points, even better 01:00:39 Does it happen even the first time you run PAP after a reboot? 01:00:52 i will go to sleep now, bye all 01:01:00 goodbye sar3th 01:01:05 *** sar3th has quit ("good luck fixing the menu issue!") 01:01:16 JohnTHaller: I have rebooted, but haven't tried since. 01:01:16 JohnTHaller: Computer reboot, or PAP reboot? 01:01:26 and PAP reboot, yes. Same thing 01:01:39 Gizmokid2005: please try again after the reboot 01:01:48 daBomb69: please DON'T reboot, just in case it fixes it 01:01:54 ok 01:02:26 * daBomb69 won't reboot 01:05:30 JohnTHaller: will cornice suffice as an installer? 01:05:58 hey guys, i've to go now, bye and see you next! =D 01:06:12 goodbye brisa 01:06:14 * brisa going out 01:06:18 yay 01:06:20 bye brisa 01:06:21 Gizmokid2005: yea 01:06:30 brb... gotta reboot... loose sata cable 01:06:32 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 01:06:36 *** brisa has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01:07:16 is it new apps or upgrading existing apps guys? 01:07:25 both 01:07:27 dragonmage: doesn't matter 01:08:04 ALL (or at least 90%) PA.com NSIS installers freaze 01:08:04 I can't get it to happen here either 01:08:14 it happens without issues with me...every time it happens 01:08:18 all the new installers that is 01:08:32 it's been hung for 1.5 mins now 01:08:32 * daBomb69 thinks he's figured it out! 01:08:42 I had one hang for 3 hours 01:08:48 daBomb69: what do you think the issue is. 01:08:50 ? 01:09:18 Gizmokid2005: Go into the beta forums, go to the first page, and download the ondest program with a NSIS launcher you can find. 01:09:37 daBomb69: explain 01:09:40 * daBomb69 thinks that there's a bug in the recent launchers 01:09:46 it's only the new installers? 01:09:51 dragonmage: yes. 01:09:59 any installer that wants to refresh the menu 01:10:00 Well, no one talked about this problem till recently 01:10:10 daBomb69: it wasn't a problem before because the feature wasn't there 01:10:14 let me try the newest 01:10:23 for instance dragonmage, cornice 01:10:31 or 7zip 01:10:33 or miranda 01:10:39 or bonkenc, taskcoach, toucan... 01:10:41 Yeah, try a really old one. Or, DL PAM 1.1 and try a new one 01:10:48 i had the menu screw up with 7zip 01:11:18 I had all the installers (toucan, 7zip, miranda, bonkenc, task coach, and cornice) hang when they tried to refresh the menui 01:11:19 *menu 01:11:25 *** KevinPorter has quit ("Cheers") 01:11:36 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 01:11:41 Ya. So, its either a PAP 1.5 bug, or a NSIS bug 01:12:32 install from menu or run directly? 01:13:27 does it matter? 01:14:04 I never update with the menu 01:14:06 always directly 01:14:24 it's been 8 minutes...killing the installer. 01:14:25 ok, I'll do that then 01:14:44 Both 01:14:44 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:14:45 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 01:15:27 does it hang at a particular stage of install? 01:15:39 Yes, the refreash the menu stage 01:15:46 the very end 01:16:06 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:16:06 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 01:16:59 ok, think I got the sata cable fixed. one of the reasons I'm trying to get off of this PC. 01:17:51 ok, brb 01:17:58 *** dragonmage has quit ("Leaving") 01:18:22 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 01:18:45 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:18:45 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 01:20:07 welcome back JohnTHaller 01:20:10 still hangs 01:20:48 JohnTHaller: I think that it might e a problem with the recent NSIS installers 01:22:01 *** TimClark (i=8087e3a1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-21aace433289f221) has joined #portableapps 01:22:16 it's actually all of em lately... but I just enabled it in the platform in 1.2/1.5 so it's only showing up now... 01:22:25 oh 01:23:53 just as I told you daBomb69 01:23:56 JohnTHaller: see my report? 01:24:11 yeah, thanks 01:24:13 working on it now 01:24:14 np 01:24:21 let me know when you need help again 01:24:37 and just for curiosities' sake, do you think it's the installer code, or the actual menu? 01:25:27 I'm not sure yet. Could be either. 01:25:38 Hoping it's the menu... easier to fix. 01:30:15 JohnTHaller: can we open the floor for now? 01:31:26 yes. I'm working on code to fix it 01:32:00 Please give him your attention if he comes back guys, thanks :) 01:37:39 *** dragonmage (i=4744492d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2bbd4914032286cf) has joined #portableapps 01:37:40 dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man. 01:38:18 well, no hang here 01:40:51 *** AppGuy (i=41251b0a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-34550df3dbd4f46e) has joined #portableapps 01:40:53 Ok, Gizmokid2005 and daBomb69 ready? 01:40:56 sure 01:41:15 ok 01:42:14 JohnTHaller: has the floor, all other chat to -ot please if you are not working with him 01:42:20 Close the platform. Browse to your X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com directory. And rename PortableAppsPlatform.exe to PortableAppsPlatformOld.exe 01:42:51 k 01:42:54 done 01:43:31 Then place this file in that directory: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/1/PortableAppsPlatform.exe 01:43:49 k 01:44:12 daBomb69: you with us? 01:44:18 Oh, yes 01:44:28 Ok, start the platform back up. and try and install a new app 01:45:19 platform Backup? 01:45:37 daBomb69: no, just start the menu again 01:45:41 ok, ok 01:45:41 same issue for me JohnTHaller 01:45:42 start the platform back... up. as in start it 01:45:47 hanging 01:45:48 hangs at the same spot? 01:45:51 yup 01:45:51 oh, duh 01:45:55 how many apps do you guys have? 01:46:09 I have probably 2 dozen or so...maybe more 01:46:30 but now, the menu is completely unresponsive to me...i can open and close it, but I can't click anything 01:46:31 same here 01:46:43 Yet...I can open apps... 01:46:48 * daBomb69 needs to find something to install 01:46:56 *** AppGuy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01:47:01 I just can't use any of the links on the right side of the menu 01:47:34 can I kill the installer? 01:49:11 Ya, all right side is inresponcive 01:49:19 and the up/down buttons 01:49:37 yea, kill it 01:50:03 go into your X;\pa\pa.c directory and delete that test EXE I gave you after closing the platform down 01:50:46 ok 01:50:55 *** AppGuy (i=41251b0a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77fc8e90fe5fd3eb) has joined #portableapps 01:50:56 *** Ben|Eris (i=183f507c@gateway/web/flash/eris.tuxhacker.org/x-45cece4142cf5ee7) has joined #portableapps 01:51:15 Now download and try this one: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/2/PortableAppsPlatform.exe 01:51:42 Please hold comments appguy and ben, testing going on 01:53:21 Slould we run the new PAP? 01:53:41 Yes. This time you may have to click on the PAP icon as a oppup message should show 01:54:47 Slhd we attempt to install new app? 01:54:51 yes 01:54:54 *** ChrisMorgan (i=cb2d06b9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dc9431955898a8c0) has joined #portableapps 01:54:54 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more 01:55:23 the installer should hang, then click on the PA icon in your systray and you should see a "got message" box. click ok and let me know of the installer resumes 01:55:38 I got the popup box 01:55:41 but the installer didn't die 01:55:45 it's still hanging 01:55:51 even after you click ok, right 01:55:54 correct 01:56:07 I didnn't get the pop-up 01:56:22 daBomb69: is your installer hanging? 01:56:25 Yes 01:56:37 did you click the PA icno in the systray to reshow the menu? 01:56:47 yes 01:56:58 you should then see a small popup in the center of the screen. it may get lost if you have other windows up 01:57:03 it's tiny 01:57:44 Nothing, i'll try it again 01:57:56 you sure you're using the new release2? 01:57:59 Yes 01:58:14 alright... nevermind. close PAP, kill the installer, delete the last test EXE 01:58:23 and now try this one: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/3/PortableAppsPlatform.exe 01:58:39 Place that in X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com and run it. Then try and run an installer 01:59:39 still hangs 01:59:50 but the menu is usable now 01:59:59 damn, I don't even have it doing anything.... ok, one more test... 02:00:00 *** AppGuy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02:00:10 *** AppGuy (i=41251b0a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e43db2663e3eb82d) has joined #portableapps 02:00:29 So is the problem here that the call from the installer to the platform ain't working? 02:00:35 I can't get the right side of the menu to do anything at all 02:00:44 I haven't tried anything newer than 1.2 RC2 yet... :-( 02:01:10 JohnTHaller: it doesn't refresh the menu this time either. 02:01:18 ChrisMorgan: yes, but please hold other conv 02:01:20 R we supposed to install throught the menu, or directly? 02:01:28 run it directly. 02:01:40 ok, good 02:01:51 yeah, i had refresh turned off on that last test 02:02:16 I figured 02:02:27 *** AppGuy has quit (Client Quit) 02:02:40 Ok, once more. Close PAP, kill installer, delete test EXE. Now try: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/PortableAppsPlatform.exe 02:03:32 ok installed and launched 02:03:33 installing now 02:03:48 still hangs. 02:04:10 Ok, so it looks like something else on your system is accepting that Windows message and not responding back. 02:04:26 Very bad form and coding... but not much we can do about it from our end. 02:04:44 That last one I gave you isn't even listening for anything. 02:04:45 the menu didn't refresh, and it does respond still on this revision 02:04:45 *** dragonmage has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02:05:06 yeah, this one responds, does not refreash, but app install still hangs 02:05:17 exactly as daBomb69 said JohnTHaller 02:06:29 Ok. Just to make sure we can get the installers working... browse to X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\App\PortableAppsPlatform.exe and rename it to PortableAppsPlatformOld.exe 02:06:59 done 02:07:11 *** JacobMastel (n=Jacob@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 02:07:11 JacobMastel is an ameture AHK coder. If you need/want a script ask him he might do it for ya ;) 02:07:25 ok 02:07:41 then try installing an app 02:07:46 ok 02:07:49 it shouldn't hang 02:08:16 hmmm...I may have found another issue 02:08:17 h/o 02:08:35 Nope, doesn't hang when installing w/o menu in existance 02:08:50 exactly 02:08:53 same here JohnTHaller 02:09:01 and it DOES refresh 02:09:07 wait, what? 02:09:14 it can't possibly 02:09:15 JohnTHaller: it does EXACTLY as it should. 02:09:22 I'm going to try one more time 02:09:28 Gizmokid2005: The menu, or the app? 02:09:31 *** Ben|Eris has quit ("obaithar") 02:09:36 hang on 02:09:50 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps () 02:09:54 menu is running...installing cornice portable, no item in the menu or in the folder list 02:09:57 starting installer 02:09:59 When I install a new app I get a hang of about 5-15 seconds (depending on the app), and the instller says refreshing menu. But it's no big deal I don't get a not responding message or anything.. 02:10:07 installed. 02:10:15 Hmmm...no refresh this time. 02:10:18 yeah, it doesn't appear, I just checked 02:10:18 but no HANG either 02:10:26 JacobMastel: I know, the menu is refreshing during that time 02:10:57 I thought someone was saying that was what the problem was sorry shuting up.. 02:12:28 I'm getting the same results as Gizmokid2005 02:12:47 Ok. ditch your last test EXE 02:13:00 *** dragonmage (i=4744492d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d8fb004362db6d4e) has joined #portableapps 02:13:01 dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man. 02:13:16 Rename X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\App\PortableAppsPlatformOld.exe and remove old 02:13:22 *** JacobMastel is now known as JacobMastel-Away 02:13:24 same with X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\PortableAppsPlatformOld.exe 02:13:44 So, get rid of all of our PAPs 02:13:59 No, rename from PAPOld to PAP 02:14:09 oh 02:15:07 done 02:15:14 basically we're switching back to the standard 1.5 platform layout with original EXEs in both places 02:15:16 ok 02:16:02 Delete Cornice from your current setup. Start up PAP. Then download and run this: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST.paf.exe 02:16:42 Run directly 02:17:08 yes 02:17:15 kk 02:17:57 Gizmokid2005: With us? 02:18:16 JohnTHaller: yeah, hang on...FF died. 02:18:42 * daBomb69 is just using Free Download Manager 02:18:43 http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST.paf.exe download and run that installer. it should refresh the menu and not hang 02:18:49 it's 4.5MB 02:18:58 It hangs 02:19:02 be sure you deleted cornice and it's not in your menu, too 02:19:21 works for me 02:19:34 Cornice installed and your menu refreshed? 02:19:49 Yup. 02:19:51 works perfect 02:19:55 no lag either on the refresh 02:19:58 daBomb69: please go back over the steps I laid out 02:20:22 Gizmokid2005: Yeah, I set it to timeout after 1s. So whatever other window on your PC is holding it up can't. 02:20:34 worked perfect for me JohnTHaller 02:20:36 brb 02:21:17 * daBomb69 is still getting hangs, and, now menu won't popup at all:( 02:21:17 daBomb69: Kill the installer. Close PAP. Make sure you're back to the original PAP 1.5 stuff (reinstall the 1.5 platform if need be). Download and install my special Cornice (not the official release from the main site). http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST.paf.exe 02:21:31 Kill it and close it all daBomb69 before starting any of it 02:21:38 and check task manager to make sure all is dead 02:22:25 In short murder it all :P 02:23:20 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 02:24:03 so Gizmokid2005, is your menu ok after the install and it refreshed? both sides of it work? 02:24:13 JohnTHaller: yup 02:24:16 works as expected 02:24:40 Ok, cool. That's what I thought. 02:24:44 yup 02:24:44 thanks JohnTHaller 02:24:48 I'm off to bed now 02:24:52 just let me know if you need anything else 02:24:55 Would still love to know what on your system is hanging onto that windows messsage 02:24:55 JohnTHaller: I presume that you changed a bit of the code in the installer where the message is sent? 02:25:03 I would too 02:25:17 no, thanks a lot, man. I have a way to update the platform to disable the send for current installers and work for newer ones. 02:25:23 and yeah, it requires an installer fix 02:25:26 anytime JohnTHaller :) 02:25:31 JohnTHaller: you believe that it's an isolated issue, not a widespread problem? 02:25:45 * daBomb69 has redone EVERYTHING, and still gets the hang 02:25:46 :( 02:25:49 relatively isolated. i couldn't reproduce it no matter what I did on 3 OSes and two PCs 02:25:57 daBomb69: Let' 02:26:05 Hmm. Interesting 02:26:16 daBomb69: let's start from scratch because it shouldn't lechnically be possible 02:26:17 JohnTHaller: it'd be nice if at some point you'd comment on the Delphi extensions/things which won't work with FreePascal that PAP uses at http://portableapps.com/node/18088#comment-113831 02:26:23 ok 02:27:00 close PAP, kill the installer, check task manager for any running installers or platform instances and kill them 02:28:03 ChrisMorgan: It's incompatible code. Turbo Pascal doesn't let you install add-ons like that on purpose (to make you buy the real one). And Free Pascal doesn't support them. 02:28:25 but let's leave that til later, i have to ensure this works with daBomb69. it's holding up a platform release 02:28:32 Yeah, that's what I thought. 02:28:51 Well, I've got to go now :-(... bye, cul84 02:28:54 *cul8r 02:28:56 daBomb69: you with me? all closed, killed and ensured not running in task manager? 02:29:12 Closed, killed, and, to be sure, I'm Reinstalling PAP 1.5 02:29:25 to be 110% I've got the right PAP 02:29:45 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("mibbit.com: Get BPBible Portable! http://portableapps.com/BPBiblePortable") 02:29:55 Ok. 02:30:34 Once you're done. Start up the platform. Then download and run this: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST.paf.exe 02:30:42 Don't use the standfard COrnice installer (it'll still hang) 02:33:24 The menu refreashed (And showed the new Cornice), the menu works perfectly, but the installer still hangs:( 02:34:14 You're doing something wrong then. It couldn't possibly refresh or hang. 02:34:40 Here's EXACTLY what i did 02:35:04 Are you sure you only have a single install of the platform anywhere on your system? 02:35:23 Hold on, I'll check 02:37:18 * daBomb69 feels EXTREAMLY stupid, he had 1.1 on D: drive:'( 02:37:37 LMAO 02:37:39 *** JacobMastel-Away is now known as JacobMastel 02:37:42 Where were you installing to? 02:37:51 Installing to L: 02:38:00 Killed D: now trying 02:38:20 Was PAP 1.5 on L in root. And installing Cornice to L:\PortableApps\CornicePortable? 02:38:27 Yes 02:39:28 Was the 1.1 platform running or anything? 02:39:33 No 02:39:58 Are you sure you weren't installing to D:? The installer would have defaulted to D:\Portableapps... 02:40:11 No, it defaulted to L 02:40:20 where was 1.1 installed on d? 02:40:45 D: portable apps\something else\portableappsmenu 02:40:54 ah ok 02:41:08 Well, let's do this one step at a time, please... just to be absolutely sure, ok? 02:42:50 Ok, PAP has been killed, installer is dead, there is only 1 PAP/PAM on my computer, it's the released version, the Special Cornice is ready to install. 02:43:13 Just bare with me... 1. Close kill or whatever all PAP and installer instances 02:43:17 ok 02:43:26 John, this may have something to do with a cheap usb extension cable I'm using but it may pertain to this problem... 02:43:48 dragonmage: please hold 02:44:02 daBomb69: 2. Reinstall PAP 1.5 02:44:28 (i know it's annoying, but please bare with me) 02:44:40 Ok, install to L: right 02:44:45 Yes 02:44:56 installing' 02:45:04 don't launch it yet 02:45:10 ok 02:45:45 When done installing, browse to L:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com, right click on PortableAppsPlatform.exe and go to properties. Tell me the Created Date. 02:46:28 Friday, March 06, 2009, 10:16:32 AM 02:46:45 Ok, good. Start up the platform. Run PortableAppsPlatform.exe directly 02:47:28 ok 02:47:35 Is Cornice showing? 02:47:41 No. 02:47:44 Ok, good. 02:47:47 * daBomb69 deleated cornice 02:48:01 Now find that special cornice installer. Right-click on it, select properties and tell me the created date 02:48:13 Today, March 10, 2009, 9:24:57 PM 02:48:58 ok. try running it. see if it hangs.... note that I *expect it might* 02:50:09 Hang:( 02:50:12 Gizmokid2005: Are you still here? 02:50:21 daBomb69: Don't worry, it's MY fault 02:50:25 ... i think... 02:50:28 ok 02:50:49 Kill the installer. Delete CornicePortable directory. Close and repoen PAP. 02:50:59 Then grab this new one and install it: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST2.paf.exe 02:52:15 *** dragonmage has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02:53:51 installing 02:54:30 Hang... again:'( 02:54:44 installer says refreshing the menu? 02:54:56 yup 02:55:07 DONE!! 02:55:11 It worked!!!! 02:55:14 :D:D:D:D 02:55:53 Horray! :D 02:56:03 So, what was wrong with the other installers? 02:56:11 did it only pause for about a second or longer? 02:56:27 about a minute in refreash time 02:56:49 hmm... run it again for me and time it if you could from the moment you see the message until it appears ok 02:57:18 (btw - thank you for being patient through all this mess) 02:57:46 Well, it's worth it to get the PAP menu working:D 02:58:02 should i restart PAP? 02:58:11 nope. just rerun the installer 02:58:15 ok 02:58:33 Do you have a sugestion for a timer? 02:58:39 rough estimate 02:58:42 ok 02:58:47 count it out is fine. 03:00:16 About a minute 03:00:29 really odd. 03:00:35 what else is running on your system at the moment? 03:00:43 and what's your CPU load in task manager 03:02:12 Right now, i'm running Pidgin Portable, OO.o, Safari, CPU load is System Idle Process at 95-99, so nothing much happening, but i think it might be the AV. 03:02:34 hmmm... ok... I have another test build: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST3.paf.exe 03:02:43 this one should hang. but should give additional info when it does 03:03:06 oh, ok 03:05:47 got it or still dling? 03:06:02 at the hang 03:06:34 What is the info it lists just before refreshing 03:06:36 and, theres like no CPU load, so its not that 03:06:39 there should be 3 lines of it 03:06:47 click details 03:06:48 it says 03:07:06 MessageStr: PortableApps.comPlatformWindowMessageToRefreshL:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\App\PortableAppsPlatform.exe 03:07:06 Message: 49576 03:07:06 Refreshing PortableApps.com Menu 03:07:13 thats the bottum three lines 03:07:26 Ok, that makes sense 03:07:35 what does it mean? 03:07:49 It's the internal stuff used to communicate between the apps 03:07:52 oh 03:08:09 So, my apps arn't playing nicely with each other? 03:08:25 Something else is hanging it. Doesn't matter what, though, we need to deal with it. 03:08:32 oh, ok 03:09:25 Ok, up for one more/ 03:09:28 ok 03:09:37 but, this one is still hanging 03:09:40 kill it? 03:09:40 Ok, kill installer, delete CornicePoratble, restart PAP 03:10:15 *** dragonmage (n=dragonma@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:10:15 dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man. 03:10:34 Hold one just a sec. brb 03:10:41 Ok. 03:11:38 Lemme know when you're back 03:12:09 back 03:12:22 *** alpha1beta (n=michael@unaffiliated/alpha1beta) has joined #portableapps 03:12:23 PAP up with no cornice, right? 03:12:28 hello 03:12:44 alpha1beta: hang on... big platform testing of a bug going on 03:13:00 daBomb69: PAP up with no Cornice right? 03:13:04 oh, tell me if you need a hand, I'll see if I can test 03:13:08 yup 03:13:14 Ok, DL and run this: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST4.paf.exe 03:13:48 Page Not Found (404 Error) 03:14:10 Oh, wait... 03:14:17 nvm, there now 03:14:22 No 03:14:23 WAIT 03:14:27 oh 03:14:35 ok 03:15:53 DL and run this: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST5.paf.exe 03:16:19 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Euphonium|away 03:18:06 Hang:( 03:18:26 how long so far? 03:18:41 at least a minute 03:18:49 i think more than that 03:19:19 so, the TIMEOUT IS 0 thing apperently didn't work:( 03:19:33 Ok... one more thing... 03:19:40 Kill installer, delete cornice, restart PAP 03:20:20 and then DL and run this: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/4/Cornice_Portable_0.6.1.2TEST6.paf.exe 03:21:53 Wow, that worked great!! 03:22:04 did cornice show up in the menu? 03:22:13 yes 03:22:18 Ok, that did it 03:22:27 what did u do? 03:22:27 yay! 03:22:29 apparently it interprets a timeout of zero as no timeout 03:22:34 oh 03:22:34 so I set it to 1 millisecond 03:22:48 wow. How do you set it as that? 03:23:03 since 1 second took 1 minute on your box for some reason, 1ms was still instantaneous as it would be for anyone else 03:23:15 oh, yay! 03:23:42 So, do u now have to edit all the apps to one milisecond? 03:24:36 Ok, so that should fix it for others. I can update the platform in 1.5.1 to disable the auto-refresh for current installers. New installers we roll out will be updated to work with it and autorefresh. 03:24:48 yay 03:25:27 Bit annoying, unfortunately :-( 03:25:34 oh 03:25:35 true 03:25:44 Wish there were some way to determine WHAT it is 03:25:48 What antivirus do you use? 03:25:59 Windows Live One Care 03:26:07 Ew 03:26:19 my thoughts exactly! 03:26:31 Can you temporarily disable it and try the regular cornice installer just to test? 03:26:38 Actually, it works better than both Norton or McAffe. 03:26:41 and sure 03:27:30 Install the regular Cornice 03:27:48 Yeah, disable onecare and try the regular cornice installer to see if it hangs 03:28:12 DLing it now 03:30:23 AV off, installing now 03:30:47 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 03:30:47 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 03:31:00 hang 03:31:22 Ok, so it ain't your AV 03:31:28 What else is in your task manager? 03:34:53 Windows processes, the currantly running apps, java, a bunch a svchost.exe 03:35:22 *** JacobMastel has quit ("Leaving.") 03:35:32 Did PAP 1.5 have the Font thing? 03:35:53 if you don't mind, close off all apps, kill java and anything else extra. then try it again 03:38:11 ok 03:38:20 now trying again 03:39:59 hanf 03:40:01 *hang 03:40:14 hang over 03:40:24 been drinking much lol 03:40:33 XD 03:41:09 Well, now it's an EXTREAMLY small hang:D 03:41:20 You mean it winds up finishing? 03:41:32 Yes, it finishes, but with a lag 03:41:46 it sloooooooooowly finishes 03:42:05 * daBomb69 will install once more 03:42:36 alright... something on your PC is definitely interfering with that system message... just not sure what it ios 03:44:08 no hang:D:D 03:44:25 heh.. very odd indeed 03:44:48 Well, fixed now! 03:45:03 Although the 1 millisecond one was faster 03:45:16 not for everybody, though. I'm gonna pack up a 1.5.1 RC now... 03:45:32 So, wats different between 1.5 and 1.5.1? 03:46:08 local files afaik 03:46:22 JohnTHaller: Thanks for the help:D 03:46:48 daBomb69: Thank you so much for working through all that with me 03:46:59 your welcome:D 03:47:16 That was very interesting 03:47:18 1.5.1 will disable refreshing from the current installer but enable it from the next installer. and it fixes some locale issues 03:47:32 I was half right :P 03:47:34 The chinese task coach thing? 03:50:02 daBomb69: Yea 03:50:07 ok 03:50:23 *** PatrickP|Away is now known as PatrickPatience 03:50:31 Wb Patrick 03:54:30 *** Duz (i=bd459681@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e99367a06b4cc4b4) has joined #portableapps 03:54:41 hey Duz can we help you? 03:55:38 I need a copy of autorun.inf because my desapear 03:56:15 How i doing a new autorun,inf ? 03:56:16 you can just run the PortableApps.com Platform 1.5 installer again. It won't hurt anything 03:56:28 and if you don't have it it's only a 1MB download 03:56:47 i have 8gb 03:57:47 but... and my apps, i lose? 03:58:04 nope 03:58:22 nope. it's just the menu, backup, custom folders, etc. 03:58:32 You're running Platform 1.5 now? Or Maybe 1.1? 03:59:22 if your running 1 or 1.1, upgrade to the new Portableapps platform (replaced the PAM) which is at 1.5 and has a awesome new theme 04:01:01 ok , and about new theme , where i found skins other colors, customizable? 04:01:38 right now, there's no themes for it yet, but JohnTHaller correct me if I'm wrong, but the old themes should still work with it (right?) 04:02:59 No, the old themes do not currently work with 1.5. It was a quick release for a trade show. The 2.0 release will have a theme switcher and 5 official themes when it is released in a couple weeks. First test release is coming shortly. Just working on a 1.5 bug first. 04:03:44 oh wow, so what modifications would you need to turn a 1.1 theme into a 1.5 theme, or is it not possible? 04:03:58 comvert the BMPs to PNGs 04:04:30 that's easy enough, so themers should do that? or wait up til 2.0 final? 04:05:05 wait 04:05:17 ok, thanks John 04:05:28 we're gonna discuss theme format this week. there is already a thread in the forums 04:05:34 hey how i convert other apps portables to .paf.exe? 04:05:47 Duz: You can install other non-PAF apps in the Menu. 04:05:59 http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps 04:06:08 damn, beat me to it :P 04:06:22 But for developers wanting to create PAF apps, we have the specs installer, etc here: http://portableapps.com/development 04:09:34 *** Duz has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 04:09:53 PatrickPatience: I'm putting together an RC of 1.5.1 which fixes the locale issue that crashes task coach among other things 04:10:32 JohnTHaller: when u release1.5.1 it'l be on the home page, right 04:11:26 yea 04:11:32 ok, thnx 04:15:12 hey, daBomb69 can you test one more thing for me? 04:15:17 sure 04:15:26 You have the 1.5 platform up and running/ 04:15:31 yes 04:15:38 click off it to another window (so the menu hides) 04:15:45 ok 04:15:51 then browse to L:\ and run StartPortableApps.exe and see what happens 04:16:21 the menu poped open 04:16:25 Ok 04:16:35 odd. same method that it uses to tell the menu to refresh 04:17:11 Oh, really? 04:18:01 Well, after running it, menu pops up in under 5 seconds 04:19:38 install still working for unmodded cornice installer/ 04:20:05 ice is still working 04:20:09 *Cornice 04:20:47 *** Euphonium|away has quit ("Leaving") 04:21:02 * daBomb69 has gots to sleep, g'night ya'll 04:21:14 *** daBomb69 has parted #portableapps () 04:30:16 JohnTHaller: Sweet, thanks. 04:32:59 *** sancas has quit ("Saliendo") 04:33:41 *** Scriptdaemon (n=KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 04:35:09 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 04:38:11 Looks like Jacob never got to updating the status page. 04:58:32 *** Scriptdaemon has quit ("Leaving") 04:59:54 *** Athenon (n=Athenon@unaffiliated/athenon) has joined #portableapps 05:06:51 *** alpha1beta has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 05:09:41 http://portableapps.com/node/10907 <---- the download link doesnt work :( 05:18:48 *** upnPAD (n=upnPAD@CPE-203-51-105-232.nsw.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps 05:18:49 upnPAD wants Code::Blocks, Inkscape, XChat, X-Moto, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/. 05:25:25 *** ChrisMorgan (i=724c34ca@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d67f7b35efdee0b0) has joined #portableapps 05:25:26 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more 05:30:00 Ah, doncha love it when a teacher uses the handouts from last year and 2 of the 4 links from which you are to get all your information don't work at all because of a site redisign... 05:30:48 Foiled... they're on web.archive.org :-( 05:31:17 oh, the first one didn't work either :D 05:37:38 So... http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/liberta/AutoStart/src/deveject.cpp?revision=35&view=markup line 146 holds its key to USB ejection 05:39:34 http://portableapps.com/node/10907 <---- the download link doesnt work :( 05:40:03 PatrickPatience: ping! 05:40:15 oh, wait 05:40:20 Athenon: it's now a Pre-Release 05:40:36 What does that mean? XD 05:40:54 It means http://portableapps.com/node/15971 :-) 05:41:01 Closer to official release 05:41:24 heck yes 05:41:30 i love xchat :P 05:41:37 do i need my license file for the portable to work? 05:41:41 Hey. 05:41:49 Sorry PatrickPatience 05:41:56 What do you mean by that Athenon? 05:42:10 Athenon: No. 05:42:15 ok cool 05:42:40 Athenon: This is a publicly compiled build using the open source code. 05:42:48 ahh, ok 05:43:00 i did legally purchase it...so i was just wondering :P 05:43:18 oh that thingy 05:43:41 I reckon I'd describe the XChat/X-Chat story as "murky"... 05:43:43 pity 05:43:51 If you do happen to have an officially purchased copy, you can try copying C:\Program Files\X-Chat\* to X:\PortableApps\XChatPortable\App\XChat\* 05:44:05 First deleting all files in the latter directory. As that build is behind a few releases. 05:44:10 And a notable one for Windows. 05:44:28 PatrickPatience: what's the difference? 05:44:40 yeah. thats what i was about to ask :P 05:45:42 ChrisMorgan: Nothing... all his code is open source. However, since the compiling process is so long and tedious, the official build is like 25 bucks and those that provides 3rd-party build do it infrequently. 05:45:42 JohnTHaller: is http://google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#zMTHZro4T5c/jvcl/common/CfgMgr32.pas&q=CM_Request_Device_EjectW any use for a Delphi device ejection basis of some sort? 05:45:54 :/ 05:46:01 And I heard purple saying something about the new version being GTK-independent... and payed version only. 05:46:06 I really have no idea what's going on. 05:46:08 So why would you buy it? 05:46:19 OK, even murkier than I thought! 05:46:22 ChrisMorgan: I don't know... I just don't. 05:46:32 Not knowing it's open source...? 05:46:36 Supporting the developer. 05:46:58 When it's made so difficult and all that, I wonder whether I'd even want to support the developer... 05:47:10 I'd rather donate 25 bucks then spend 25 bucks on purchasing a 'license' for open source software. 05:47:11 It's wierd... and has quite a few legal issues. 05:47:13 .wik xchat 05:47:15 "XChat, commonly written X-Chat or xchat, is a popular Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xchat 05:47:32 Yes, me too 05:47:36 Haha, yes! http://www.silverex.org/news/ 05:47:40 Good freakin' timing. 05:48:18 Man, I'll try to fix that puppy up tomorrow evening. 05:48:43 Wait... what. 05:48:47 Still behind in versions. 05:48:49 I have no idea. 05:49:25 I bet he closed of the source or something bizarre like that. 05:49:44 idunno 05:51:45 http://www.xchat.org/files/source/2.8/ 05:51:45 That wasn't very nice of him. 05:52:11 He just throws himself at more and more legal issues. 05:52:24 *** Athenon_ (n=Athenon@unaffiliated/athenon) has joined #portableapps 05:52:33 Huh? Why not very nice? 05:52:39 coming to you live off my jumpdrive 05:52:39 XD 05:52:46 with my licensed version btw ;P 05:52:49 *** Athenon_ has quit (Client Quit) 05:52:51 ChrisMorgan: Check out the latest tarball version. 05:53:00 Heh, that can't be good. 05:53:00 Download it? 05:53:04 No, can't do that now 05:53:09 No, it's a previous version. 05:53:20 works great. awesome. now i just gotta set putty up to tunnel ;P 05:53:21 It is almost a year old... 05:53:25 Seems like he stopped posting the source after 2.8.6 05:53:31 ChrisMorgan: Yeah. 05:53:40 uh oh... ttk. (time to kill) 05:54:00 Unfortauntely it has a couple instabilities. 05:54:13 *sigh* 05:54:25 Such as the mentioned tray-icon crashing. My portable version should have fixed that, I thought the plugin was enabled and tray icon disabled. 05:54:34 Apparently not according to scriptdaemon 05:54:47 I'll see how she's running, haven't used it in a while. 05:55:01 Which I should, as I'm on so many server these days. 06:00:29 man this installer-platform link is annoying 06:00:37 :-( 06:00:54 Device ejection is playing second fiddle atm I guess :P 06:00:56 i've got it... just a lot of work to handle possible scenarios 06:01:13 :-( 06:01:15 considering we have a bug that causes app installers to hang... yes 06:01:19 Patrick Patience be partin' PortableApps.com party place. Peacout perky people. Phosphorescence be pestering ma picky peeves. 06:01:42 pgoodbye ppatrick ppatience 06:01:53 Pah! 06:02:10 Peachy. 06:02:34 *** dzjepp has quit (Client Quit) 06:02:54 humph. 06:10:22 Hey! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;165721 looks good for intricate details on how to eject a device :-) 06:13:01 cfgmgr32.pas should also be needed 06:13:15 To do it in Delphi, anyhow 06:19:02 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 06:19:05 *** rmccue has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:21:10 http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.withopf.com%2Ftools%2Fdeveject%2F&langpair=de|en (German: http://www.withopf.com/tools/deveject/) seems to be OK 06:21:32 Problem is I don't happen to want to test it atm :P 06:25:33 *** ChrisMorgan has parted #portableapps ("Reasons? Why do I need reasons to part? OK, I'm testing the parting feature in Mibbit :-)") 06:25:41 *** ChrisMorgan (i=724c34ca@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d67f7b35efdee0b0) has joined #portableapps 06:25:42 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more 06:29:45 ouch... DevEject listing includes my USB disk and: "'Plug and Play Monitor' 'DISPLAY\PHL0818\5&E9627F0&0&22446688&02&00' [REMOVEABLE]" 06:29:53 Wonder what'd happen if I did that... :/ 06:31:02 JohnTHaller: I reckon that when it comes to device ejection, DevEject is pretty good. Only problem, license unspecified, no indication, just a line in the cpp file // (c) 2003-07 Matthias Withopf 06:31:42 And you just run it "DevEject.exe -EjectDrive:X:"... the only problem is not leaving it behind, you'd need to have something special to do that 06:32:08 e.g. NSIS installers do it (especially uninstallers, which copy themselves to TEMP first and then kill it all afterwards) 06:45:37 *** sar3th|linux (n=sar3th@port-92-205-117-146.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #portableapps 06:46:06 Hey! http://quick.mixnmojo.com/software#usbdiskeject is written in Pascal! 06:46:23 heya ChrisMorgan 06:46:34 /And/ it has a command-line argument /REMOVETHIS... 06:46:49 No word on license, though... or source code easily visible... 06:47:45 Though it does have the disclaimer "The software is provided "as-is" and without warranty of any kind, express, implied or otherwise, including without limitation, any warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose. In no event shall the initial developer or any other contributor be liable for any special, incidental, indirect or consequential damages of any kind, or any damages whatsoever result 06:49:27 PortableApps.com Platform 1.5.1 RC1: http://portableapps.com/node/18475 Please test ASAP 06:49:39 Sorry, can't test today :-( 06:49:54 ChrisMorgan: we should contact the dev on licensing 06:49:57 JohnTHaller: I'm going to ask the USB Device Ejector author what the licensing is 06:50:04 I'm in the middle of it :-) 06:50:14 In Pascal, that'd make it even easier to integrate 06:50:45 it'll be sep probably 06:51:01 we'd compile it to a simple eject so it could run from temp and delete itself 06:51:17 It can already to that with /REMOVETHIS 06:51:39 In my opinion, all you would want is possibly to remove the GUI and excess junk and leave just teh REMOVETHIS functionality 06:53:38 http://www.uwe-sieber.de/drivetools_e.html 06:56:39 RemoveDrive is Freeware. 06:56:41 Allowed: 06:56:43 - usage in any environment, including commercial 06:56:45 - include in software products, including commercial 06:56:52 but can't host on SF 06:56:55 Not allowed: changing any of the files 06:56:56 so nope 06:57:44 Yeah, it's the licensing. The reason I looked more at the Q&E solution was because its disclaimer looks like the GPL one, and they haven't specified the license 06:57:52 k, just thought it might be helpful (the code part) 06:58:05 Except it's closed source 06:58:10 JohnTHaller: "Hi! I'm one of the PortableApps.com developers. We would like to use USB Disk Ejector in the PortableApps.com Platform to improve our "eject" functionality, which currently just loads the Windows ejection dialogue box. What is the license of USB Disk Ejector? If it's open source, e.g. GPL, we'd like to use it. It's just that you don't specify what it is on the website." 06:58:15 How's that? 06:58:24 sure 06:58:47 ok, sent 07:00:09 Wonder whether I'll get an answer. 07:00:19 Or whether they'll be like Sun and never respond... :-( 07:01:09 *** dbdii407 (n=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 07:02:22 hi all 07:03:11 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 07:03:53 John, Rainy put up another test of Rainmeter today that fixed the free\used space for removable drives 07:04:17 * rmccue now has WinMerge and Songbird to update :/ 07:06:15 Hey, news: source code *is* available for USB Disk Ejector! 07:06:25 It was hidden at the bottom of the page... :-( 07:06:33 how's the new Songbird running ryan? 07:06:49 "All... should work with Delphi 7" 07:07:09 http://quick.mixnmojo.com/files/source/USBDiskEjector1.1Source.zip 07:07:17 ChrisMorgan: i was talking about http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/RemoveDriveByLetter.aspx 07:07:33 Whereas I wasn't ever at all :P 07:07:40 ah well. 07:09:45 So, source code is found, but still not license - whew, my email won't make me look silly :P 07:10:24 nah, the email didn't do it... 07:10:29 :P 07:11:04 since i speak delphi, i'd like to help out at this one 07:11:19 ChrisMorgan: USB Disk Ejector has a component of unknown origin according to the readme... so impossible to license 07:11:37 dragonmage: It's not. 07:11:53 eh? 07:11:53 Yes, just noted that :-( 07:12:04 alright. i got the fix up for the app installer hang, locale issues (toucan crash) and the backup crash in german. i need sleep now 07:12:39 let me get you guys' advice while you are here 07:12:41 goodnight JohnTHaller :-) 07:12:52 sleep well JohnTHaller 07:13:01 Bye JohnTHaller, I hardly knew ye. :P 07:13:08 I'm thinking of pafing Rainmeter 07:13:17 night John 07:13:51 so, Rainmeter looks in it's directory for the Skins driectory 07:13:59 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 07:14:46 http://quick.mixnmojo.com/your-opinion-is-sought-usb-disk-ejector-should-be-it-open-sourced 07:14:49 well, gotta go now 07:15:02 time for school :D 07:15:27 now to properly back Rainmeter up, the whole skins folder would have to be put into \Data right? 07:15:36 So, if I'd searched, I could have found :-( 07:15:36 later sar3th|linux 07:15:54 .tell JohnTHaller http://quick.mixnmojo.com/your-opinion-is-sought-usb-disk-ejector-should-be-it-open-sourced - he discusses the issues there... sorry for using a tell :P 07:15:54 ChrisMorgan: I'll pass that on when I next see JohnTHaller. 07:16:14 ChrisMorgan: It beats using MemoServ :P 07:16:23 ChrisMorgan: i guess uwe sieber won't have a problem with his code being GPL'd..we'd have to ask him 07:16:40 yeah, maybe we can do his open sourcing for him :P 07:16:43 *** DaveDixonII has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:17:05 the Skins folder could start to get rather large if people want to keep a lot of configs 07:17:11 well, goobie evrywun 07:17:14 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("mibbit.com: Get BPBible Portable! http://portableapps.com/BPBiblePortable") 07:17:31 *** sar3th|linux has quit ("school. seriously.") 07:18:09 so keeping two copies of the Skins folder might not be a good idea 07:19:09 and the cow jumped over the moon 07:20:09 anyone have any opinions 07:23:32 really? I should try to get Rainy to make it configurable where Rainmeter looks for configs at? So, I can just have it look in \Data\Skins? 07:23:55 Sounds good. 07:23:56 That's exactly what I was thinking... 07:23:57 * rmccue hides 07:24:51 well, that's the best solution I can think of, to save space 07:25:50 I don't want to trust the folder being moved back and forth on load and exit 07:26:09 more risk of data loss 07:28:58 are there any other apps here that move folders around like that? 07:33:24 So what were you saying about Songbird rmccue ? 07:33:46 I need to do it :P 07:34:27 yes, you do :p 07:35:56 I think I can do Rainmeter, it should be a pretty simple launcher 07:37:11 but I need to figure out what to do about the Skins folder first 07:38:16 because that's going to determine how the relative paths to portableapps specific stuff will have to be written in configs 07:42:49 I wonder if John would put an exception in the autobackup for Rainmeter? 07:42:59 naaahh 07:43:22 you know, you guys are tons of help 07:43:29 We know. 07:44:07 you say so little and yet... 07:44:15 say so little 07:46:25 *** TaffinFoxcroft (n=TaffinFo@124.176.96.130) has joined #portableapps 07:47:08 hey TaffinFoxcroft 07:47:29 hi dragonmage. 07:47:34 anything happening? 07:48:06 well I'm discussing how I'm think about making Rainmeter portable 07:48:14 no one else is though 07:48:33 He's discussing with himself. 07:48:44 lulz. 07:49:11 you know, just bouncin ideas off of me 07:49:32 y rainmeter setup was just showing my downloads (getting PAP 1.5.1) at full, then just stopping all of a sudden 07:49:44 *my 07:49:56 guess what 07:50:11 what? 07:50:12 there's a new rainmeter test version... 07:50:18 ORLY? 07:50:35 actually 2 in the last 2 days :) 07:50:56 * TaffinFoxcroft is on the case 07:51:04 http://code.google.com/p/rainmeter/ 07:51:22 Rainy fixed a couple issues 07:52:00 yayz! http://code.google.com/p/rainmeter/source/detail?r=18 07:52:01 it now can properly show free\used space on removable drives. Yay! 07:52:19 which is that the recyclemanager? 07:52:48 oh 07:52:49 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:52:53 heheh 07:53:01 the one I mentioned 07:53:07 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 07:53:10 nope, rainmeter currently can only show disk statistics for hard drives 07:53:21 but rev. 18 fixed it! 07:53:47 yeah I know I've been using it for a few hours now :p 07:54:41 you compiled it? 07:55:19 I have a meter set up for drive P: which is a substitute drive, thx ryan btw for the substitute drive 07:56:13 no, I downloaded the installer, ran it and copied rainmeter.exe and rainmeter.dll to my portabl 07:56:27 oh, they offer pre-compiled :P 07:56:40 hows the status on rainmeter portable? 07:56:48 yeah, Rainy is cool like that 07:57:26 well, I haven't gotten started yet 07:57:46 I'm trying to figure out what to do about the Skins folder 07:58:15 dont paths in the skins ini work portably? 07:58:38 kinda 07:59:29 I can't get them to go to root, they have to go up the proper number of directories 07:59:46 that's not the issue really 08:00:06 I've figured out how to make those work 08:00:29 pastebin? 08:00:34 the issue is backup 08:01:44 if people start loading the folder up with configs, having to have a copy of the Skins folder in \Data could start to use some space 08:02:28 thats why you could use Rename so that they're shifted instead of copied 08:02:50 oh? 08:02:59 and then when starting detect if the skins folder is in App\Rainmeter 08:03:05 how's that work? 08:03:18 Rename can move files, but only on the same drive. 08:03:48 e.g. Rename "$EXEDIR\Data\Skins" "$EXEDIR\App\Rainmeter" 08:04:06 although i'm not sure if it would move it to the right place 08:05:11 (ot) the new rainmeter was the best birthday present ever :D 08:05:47 it would have to move from RainmeterPortable\App\Rainmeter to RainmeterPortable\Data 08:06:12 would a rename do that? 08:06:22 yep, but you would replace RainmeterPortable with $EXEDIR 08:07:12 $EXEDIR meaning the dir of launcher... 08:07:20 yeper 08:07:36 i.e. G:\PortableApps\RainmeterPortable 08:08:22 would that actually be moving though? like if the power went out while that was happening would the data be lost in transition? 08:09:27 yes, it would. but in a power out or other failure, it would move the half-moved copy back to the app dir so it would move normally next time 08:10:32 oh, I made a PortableAppsMenu Start Button config btw 08:10:43 nice 08:10:48 pastebin it plz? 08:11:04 it could replace the floating PAMDI thingy in the forums :D 08:11:06 plz kthxbai 08:11:15 with normal,hover,pressed and even a sound 08:11:15 *** rmccue has quit ("The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two"") 08:12:29 well this version only fits in with my Sputnik configs, I'm gonna rework one that will allow people to use their own images 08:13:00 ah, k 08:13:07 Sputnik configs? 08:13:35 i uses Enigma and GeoSans 08:14:02 have you ever seen any skins of the Sputnik suite? 08:14:52 started as a windowblind, winamp, iconpackage, and kept growing 08:15:35 http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03112009041737.png 08:15:59 you'll have to excuse the wb skin, I'm on my gf's account 08:16:36 wb skin looks kinda tacky. 08:17:02 she likes green 08:17:10 and doesn't like dark 08:17:17 i do 08:17:37 http://cubegames.net/taneth/uploads/desktop.jpg 08:17:48 ^^ my current desktop 08:18:34 everything else showing is work in progress rainy configs and a Sputnik skin for mod r34 08:18:52 all running of flash drive 08:19:00 off 08:19:31 oh, and Stickies on the leftsidebar 08:19:46 hereto referred to as LSB 08:20:12 not bad 08:21:32 nice, you make those configs? 08:23:14 See, I made my PAM Start Button quick, it's an actual BUTTON meter which as it turns out you can't move 08:23:17 *** TaffinFoxcroft is now known as TaffinF|Food 08:23:44 because clicking causes the Action 08:24:04 So I had to give it a background to move 08:24:27 brb 08:29:26 yo Gizmokid2005 08:29:41 .def Gizmokid2005 08:29:42 upnPAD: Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually). 08:31:54 *** TaffinF|Food has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 08:41:24 *** TaffinF|Food (n=TaffinFo@124.176.96.130) has joined #portableapps 08:42:42 *** TaffinF|Food is now known as TaffinFoxcroft 08:52:02 *** cos1982 (i=4db796e5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1d7665e61f7cb846) has joined #portableapps 08:52:15 Hello 08:52:31 yo 08:53:06 i need help with my thunderbird portable 08:57:01 thanks a lot for an answer ... have a nice day 08:58:02 *** cos1982 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 08:58:59 lol wut 08:59:01 did he ask a question 08:59:16 anyway 08:59:27 .p toucan backup multiple DVD 08:59:37 .pa toucan backup multiple DVD 09:02:58 .g toucan backup multiple DVD site:portableapps.com 09:02:59 TaffinFoxcroft: http://portableapps.com/node/6092 09:03:09 .title http://portableapps.com/node/6092 09:03:14 TaffinFoxcroft: What's on your portable#2? | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives 09:27:31 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:28:03 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 09:33:36 *** dragonmage has quit ("I said Good Day Sir") 09:43:04 *** FR (i=51399268@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9c3da7dede2f9095) has joined #portableapps 09:43:14 Hi/Hello/Bonjours 09:43:33 Who are french ? Y aurait-il des français ? 09:44:09 *** FR is now known as Ammonium 09:44:29 How install portable apps in my usb keys ? 09:52:21 *** Ammonium has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10:38:28 *** upnPAD has quit ("oi na") 11:05:39 *** PatrickPatience is now known as PatrickP|Away 11:41:50 *** sar3th|school (i=818f0442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cb39e26d71b229dd) has joined #portableapps 11:41:58 hi all 11:42:38 *** onestoploser (n=onestopl@3.vcty1.xdsl.nauticom.net) has joined #portableapps 11:42:39 onestoploser is teh curry master and can't get enough PortableApps.com 11:43:53 hi onestoploser! 11:44:16 Good morning! 11:44:19 :D 11:44:28 it's 12:46 :P 11:44:47 It's 7:46 here :P 11:45:41 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 11:45:45 gmornin 11:46:20 heya MaienM 11:46:35 just got called, no school for me today :D 11:47:30 lucky you 11:49:11 *** sar3th|school is now known as sar3th 11:54:16 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 11:54:17 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 11:54:47 hola folks and good morning Gizmokid2005 :P 11:57:37 *** TaffinFoxcroft has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:05:01 *** Simeon1 (n=simeon@dslb-094-216-109-181.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 12:07:42 *** Simeon1 has quit (Client Quit) 12:23:17 *** pabot has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:23:29 *** pabot (n=pabot@unaffiliated/rmccue/bot/pabot) has joined #portableapps 12:29:21 *** daBomb69 (n=Compaq_O@66.43.242.42) has joined #portableapps 12:29:21 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 12:32:08 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps 12:33:22 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:33:49 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 12:33:50 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 12:44:37 *** Sui-away (n=desulove@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 12:53:10 *** sar3th has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 13:04:10 *** Athenon has quit ("またね！") 13:30:47 *** KevinPorter has quit ("Cheers") 13:41:39 Quiet... so quiet 13:45:58 orly? 13:46:10 yarly 13:46:23 daBomb69: look in ot for a sec 13:49:10 *** DoctorDude (i=c12cd478@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f442e6c4bfb7a7e) has joined #portableapps 13:49:39 Hi 13:49:54 hello 13:50:18 I got a idea 13:53:37 What about creating a Suite for other companies and calling it maybe PortableApps Business or PortableApps Enterprise 14:04:10 DoctorDude: to small a market, not only that we are talking with hardware vendors to make portableapps.com on flash drives in stores ;) 14:06:09 Cool. They should done that long time a go. 14:06:17 And delete U3 14:06:28 ago 14:07:01 hello ZachThibeau - I was actually afk earlier.. 14:07:18 DoctorDude: u3 is pretty much dead already 14:08:41 Really. 14:09:01 PortableApps rocks. 14:09:37 Yes. Yes it does. 14:12:38 Well now PortableApps be installed on USB Flash Drive? Maybe next year? 14:13:27 Will they look like the cool flash drives in the PA splash screens? 14:13:50 I don't know the exact details only JohnHaller does 14:13:57 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 14:20:41 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps 14:23:28 *** jonhutch (i=42122da2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-deb540075115edc2) has joined #portableapps 14:23:41 Morning everyone :) 14:23:48 morning 14:23:55 I am having an issue with Portableapps, anyone available to help? 14:24:12 whats your issu? 14:24:26 *issue 14:25:10 When I click on the Documents button it comes up "G:\Documents" not found. Now I understand that the name of the file on the drive is Document (no "s"), but I was wondering where I could change it to turn the link into "Documents"? 14:25:54 ur running Windows, right 14:25:59 Yes sir 14:26:07 well it is named Documents :S 14:26:15 and you cant change it on the menu currently 14:26:28 you could just rename Document to Documents and then it would work :) 14:26:35 *should 14:26:35 lol 14:26:41 In Explorer, open the G: drive, right click the Document folder, click rename, and rename it to Documents 14:27:11 ya on all my drives it is named Documents :S 14:27:17 same here 14:27:32 Yeah, I was going to do that. I was just curious of I could change it somewhere so the shortcut points to "documents"... purely for asthetics 14:29:37 And I was more curious why the shortcut on the menu would point to ":\Documents" and create the file "Document" instead... bug? 14:30:01 it did? 14:30:09 hmmm very strange.... 14:30:23 lemme download it and see if it happens for me 14:30:34 Didn't happen 4 me 14:30:36 Yeah this is the newest version by the way 14:30:39 oh and jonhutch: which one did you download? 14:30:41 1.5 14:30:42 If I need to reinstall that's fine 14:30:44 1.5 14:30:51 It's just rather... odd... 14:31:00 i mean which ummmm 14:31:03 package 14:31:08 Standard 14:31:13 The biggest one 14:31:16 ah ok 14:31:17 lol 14:31:24 it should only take a minute ^_^ 14:31:31 30mb connection ftw ^_^ 14:31:45 its installing thats the long part :/ 14:32:12 lol 1 minute remaining ^_^ 14:32:24 SLOW! 14:32:35 ... 14:32:50 well its still limited by the read/write speed of the usb connection... 14:32:53 Yeah... heh. Thanks for helping me out though. It's not a BIG deal, I mean I can change the file name easily enough. I am just wanting to make sure if it is a bug, that the right people know so it can be fixed. :) 14:32:56 and unfortunately its usb 1.1 :/ 14:33:12 ya it might have been a mistake they made when compiling it 14:33:31 I'm a developer so I understand how these things happen ;) 14:33:52 ^_^ 14:34:34 also jonhutch are you on your home computer now? 14:35:34 Work computer SHHHHHHHHH 14:36:05 It's how I get around some of the install policies at work ;) 14:36:17 nice 14:36:23 Can't have firefox installed on our system... that's fine... it's installed on a USB drive. 14:36:36 ok installing... we will see what happenms 14:36:38 lol 14:36:42 They won't let you have FF. Thats just mean 14:36:50 jonhutch: fight the powa! 14:36:51 Believe I know I'm breaking the spirit of the rule... but I'm following the letter of it ;) 14:37:01 lol 14:37:32 Our admins are super paranoid about firefox securities... and then they make us use IE... :: facepalm :: 14:37:48 IE+Security=FAILZ 14:37:56 eh i work in an it department.... we are allowed to put "whatever is neccesary to complete our work" on our computers 14:37:56 *** HM2K (i=HM2K@ROFL.name) has joined #portableapps 14:38:09 so i say ff is necesary :P\ 14:38:29 Do u have to pay for ur onw software? 14:38:48 *** DoctorDude has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 14:38:52 well i mean if you have to pay for it oyu have to ask first though :/ 14:38:55 It's like saying, "Hey! That gun is dangerous! Here take this hand grenade instead!" 14:39:03 ya :/ 14:39:15 :( 14:39:25 ugh come on finish installing 14:39:37 I have bought my own software for development, but they don't make us.... 14:39:37 they pull the pin out before giving it to you though..... sadists 14:39:47 haha exacly MaienM 14:39:47 ok its installed checking... 14:40:09 nope mine installed as Documents 14:40:15 just tried it 14:40:23 and now i must go to my classes cya guys 14:40:29 Alright... reinstall time 14:40:33 Thanks bensawesome :) 14:40:43 goodbye Bensawsome 14:41:59 *** Suiseiseki (n=desurage@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 14:42:26 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Euphonium|away 14:45:00 Going to reinstall, I'll be back to let everyone know if it worked or not. 14:45:05 *** jonhutch has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 14:47:28 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 14:47:30 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 14:52:47 I love my internet :) 14:52:50 1.2MB/s :) 14:52:54 *** dzjepp (n=menace2s@adsl-99-141-130-61.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 14:53:00 redownloading my ubuntu 8.10 iso 14:53:00 i love mine better :P 30mb/s :P 14:53:09 Bensawsome: you shush :P this is the fastest I can get here. 14:53:10 IO love mine best 14:53:15 50mb/s 14:53:20 lol 14:53:27 daBomb69: at your school? 14:53:30 No 14:53:35 now...if I was at work, I'd have you all beat :P 14:53:43 Me school gets like 60mb/s 14:53:51 lol 14:54:01 daBomb69: at home? 14:54:11 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/funny-jokes/message/2077 <---- LOL :) 14:54:13 daBomb69: speedtest.net do it now 14:54:43 and show me the proof 14:58:00 *** Simeon (n=simeon@dslb-088-067-140-135.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 14:58:01 Simeon is a Developer at PortableApps.com 14:58:04 *** Simeon has quit (Client Quit) 14:59:26 *** ZachThibeau_ (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:00:05 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Nick collision from services.) 15:00:10 *** ZachThibeau_ is now known as ZachThibeau 15:03:51 *** DUZ (i=bd2ef6b8@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-134590ebf4a9bac8) has joined #portableapps 15:04:09 *** KevinPorter has quit (Connection timed out) 15:04:15 *** Bensawsome is now known as ImAMac 15:04:31 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ImAMaconPC 15:04:32 *** daBomb69 is now known as ImABSD 15:04:39 *** ImABSD is now known as ImBSD 15:04:45 *** ImAMaconPC is now known as ZachThibeau 15:06:24 hello, i lost my autorun, i re-installed the plattform but is not the same 15:07:07 ur running windows, right? 15:07:11 DUZ: what do you mean, you lost your autorun? can you be more specific? 15:07:36 *** ImBSD is now known as daBomb69 15:09:36 the file autorun 15:10:34 in os xp, the file autorun lost , in the os vista ok 15:10:46 i need the copy of file 15:10:53 DUZ: is the file missing, or is windows just not popping up the autorun dialog? 15:11:56 into the pendrive dont have the file 15:12:21 the windows popping up normal 15:12:57 DUZ: it's a hidden file...do you have hidden files and folders shown? 15:13:12 or is it? maybe not. 15:13:23 what drive is the portableapps platform installed to DUZ? 15:14:33 i have a micro cruzer 8gb with the platform only v1.5 installed 15:15:16 did you install the platform to the root of the drive? 15:16:15 in the first time that i plug in vista ok, but in another computer with xp the file missing dont 15:16:20 autorun 15:16:44 sounds like autorun is disabled on xp and that the file isn't missing 15:20:03 somebody can past the text into the autorun to me 15:21:06 DUZ: http://pastebin.com/m68d8502a 15:21:07 there you go 15:25:55 thanks Giz 15:26:07 yw daBomb69 15:26:11 yw DUZ* 15:27:11 *** DUZ has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 15:27:25 *** jonhutch (i=42122da2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e394cbb857a7636d) has joined #portableapps 15:27:42 FYI reinstalling fixed it. 15:28:05 I guess it was just a bad install first go around. Thanks for all the help! :) 15:28:19 *** jonhutch has quit (Client Quit) 15:32:54 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@port-92-205-117-146.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #portableapps 15:32:54 sar3th is working on LyX portable 15:33:06 hi all 15:33:26 hello sar3th 15:33:31 heya daBomb69 15:33:44 how r u 2day? 15:33:55 quite tired^ 15:33:57 howdy sar3th 15:34:20 heya ZachThibeau, any luck with the no-install-forums? 15:34:29 nope 15:34:59 aaw :( 15:41:25 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 15:41:26 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 15:41:32 hi 15:41:46 hello JohnTHaller. 15:41:49 howdy JohnTHaller 15:41:50 hi JohnTHaller 15:44:37 daBomb69: Did you test this yet? http://portableapps.com/node/18475 15:45:06 DLing wright now 15:45:20 Gizmokid2005: Could you in particular test this, too, since you had issues? http://portableapps.com/node/18475 15:45:44 daBomb69: Thanks. Also check to see if the old installer for cornice official release is still hanging 1.5 for you. And that it works with 1.5.1 15:48:29 give me just a minute JohnTHaller 15:49:56 JohnTHaller: still running the standard menu, correct? 15:50:58 JohnTHaller: the installertest of cornice, works beautifully with 12.5 15:51:07 *1.5 with a manual direct installer run 15:51:41 same when installing through the menu 15:51:48 JohnTHaller: No, no hang from origianal installer 15:52:06 Gizmokid2005: you still getting a hang from the original installer on 1.5? 15:52:33 I just used the isntallertest you posted on that node 15:52:36 that worked 15:52:46 I can try the original installer that you posted of cornice if you'd likea 15:52:47 *like 15:53:13 please. i want to see if your PC is in the state where it fails. 15:53:20 hopfully it is 15:53:27 k 15:53:41 hahaha....nope. 15:53:44 but h/o 15:54:11 it works fine now... 15:54:17 Same here. 15:54:54 sigh 15:55:08 you guys reboot since last night? 15:55:11 idk JohnTHaller, I really don't... 15:55:12 nope 15:55:15 I leave my PC on 24/7 15:55:38 Nope 15:55:58 Same here. 15:56:45 ditto 15:58:25 well, damnit 15:59:04 sorry JohnTHaller :( 15:59:11 ah well, please try the new stuff in the combinations listed (old instller with 1.5.1, new installer with 1.5.1, in and out of the menu, new installer with 1.5 in and out of menu, etc) in that thread and post results. I really wanna post this today./ 15:59:27 ok 16:02:04 JohnTHaller: I am downloading 16:02:09 will this replace the current PAP? 16:02:14 *** dzjepp has quit (Client Quit) 16:02:22 Gizmokid2005: yes. but you can install 1.5 back over it 16:02:54 just checking 16:02:55 installing now. 16:03:03 *** Simeon (n=simeon@dslb-088-067-140-135.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 16:03:04 Simeon is a Developer at PortableApps.com 16:03:14 Hi All! 16:03:16 installing origianal cornice via 1.5.1 menu 16:03:16 hi 16:03:24 well that's odd...whatever just happened...PAP didn't remove my background... 16:03:37 yeah, same here 16:04:03 lemme try something real quick. 16:04:24 origianal install via menu=no hang 16:04:47 Hmmm...that isn't it...*shrugs* installing 1.5.1 now 16:05:27 original installer via 1.5.1 manual run - no hang 16:05:29 JohnTHaller: Could you check the redirects for the Apps? Some arent working... 16:06:02 currently busy simeon 16:06:12 ok 16:06:15 platform issues / app installer issues take precedence 16:06:16 JohnTHaller: original installer, running menu 1.5.1, installing manually, no hang, but no refresh of the menu either. 16:06:26 working on a fast 1.5.1 release 16:06:37 Gizmokid2005: Yeah, manual install of old should not refresh 16:06:40 k 16:06:47 installing via menu now. 16:07:12 via menu - no hang, good refresh :) 16:07:36 * daBomb69 is now insatlling origianal firectly 16:07:41 *directly 16:07:49 test installer, run directly, menu 1.5.1 - no hang, menu refreshed. 16:08:25 same results with a menu install. 16:08:45 no hang, no refreash, installing origianal directly 16:10:04 *** Hestus (n=chatzill@195.204.88.209) has joined #portableapps 16:11:02 _HELP! 16:11:16 Hestus: what can we do for you? 16:12:17 How can i insert my own links in the programs list in Protable Apps 16:12:53 Hestus: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps 16:13:29 JohnTHaller: I have something else, that may or may not help, that I noticed in common with daBomb69 and myself 16:14:54 Well, i mean REALY my own Applikations that are not protable by PortableApps 16:15:12 Hestus: that link, is how you add them to the menu. 16:15:14 period. 16:20:52 Hestus: You just have to put them in the right place on the drive and the menu will find em automatically. 16:20:59 Read the 2nd paragraph here: 16:20:59 http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps 16:26:52 Gizmokid2005: what were you gonna say you and daBomb69 have in common? 16:27:58 JohnTHaller: him and I both have a common issue with explorer, though we are on different OS. I have XP Pro Sp3, he's on XP home SP2...but randomly Explorer will crash and restart itself, as well as IE, OE, and WMM icons typically are missing in the windows start menu until the app is launched from that location. We both ahve noticed that during this testing explorer has crashed more often than 16:27:59 normal 16:28:31 *** LOGAN (n=LOGAN@unaffiliated/logan) has joined #portableapps 16:28:32 LOGAN is a person that's crazy over fun portable stuff. 16:28:53 yes i have done what it said but the applicationdoes not open :S 16:30:17 Hestus: You sure it's portable? 16:31:09 Gizmokid2005: Have you tried it without the wallpaper swapper? 16:31:24 Do you have... ehem... unoffficial copies of Windows? 16:31:36 JohnTHaller: no I haven't. And no. This is a legit copy. 16:31:45 no but it reqiers no regestry or other kind of enviroment saving, but it miogth be somthing with the application 16:31:47 all my software is legit.... =-O I know! 16:32:37 Hestus: Can you browse to the directory and run the EXE directly? If not, the PA.c Platform can't make it work. 16:36:27 Gizmokid2005: Have you checked to see if you have a search process somewhere? Nero Burning Rom shipped with a buggy file indexer for years. It could hang explorer, lock files, cause all sorts of weirdness. 16:36:57 not sure what you want me to look for. I don't use, nor ever installed Nero. 16:37:10 Same here, Nero's 2 expencive 16:41:39 Would Google Desktop cause the same problem? 16:42:13 it might. all of those widget engines and windows dock programs are buggy if I recall. 16:42:22 I don't have any thought :( 16:42:24 *though 16:42:50 * daBomb69 had Google Desktop once, but uninstalled it after not using it for like 5 months 16:43:22 *** LOGAN has quit ("Leaving.") 16:43:33 How come you never reinstalled windows or dug deeper into your explorer problems? 16:43:45 Any custom explorer toolbars? any other OS customizations? 16:43:50 JohnTHaller: this was a FRESH install of XP Pro... 16:43:58 *** LOGAN (n=LOGAN@unaffiliated/logan) has joined #portableapps 16:43:59 LOGAN is a person that's crazy over fun portable stuff. 16:44:00 I don't have an XP disk 16:44:18 I installed it twice because i had the issue originally and thought it was an install issue...used a fresh legit ISO and disc and STILL have the issue... 16:44:27 * daBomb69 has a computer where a recovery crap is in the D: drive 16:44:35 there's only so much I can figure out...I can't get to the bottom of it...it doesn't make sense on a fresh install 16:44:35 *** LOGAN has quit (Client Quit) 16:48:58 see yall around - gotta go. 16:49:05 Gizmokid2005: Did you reinstall over old or format and reinstall? 16:49:15 format and reinstall 16:49:16 always do 16:49:21 *when I have to 16:49:33 *** Simeon has quit ("Leaving.") 16:50:26 Gizmokid2005: In that case. if the issue persisted, it would seem you have a defective piece of hardware or a bad driver 16:50:58 JohnTHaller: it's good hardware, and I don't know what would be defective...if I have no issues with any other OS, live CDs etc... 16:51:18 then it's a driver issue 16:51:25 and explorer almost never crashes, except for recently with this testing...and the icons not being right unless clicked on...everything else was and still is solid 16:51:49 if it happens on a base install, thuings like disappearing icons... something is wrong 16:52:01 only a few icons of stupid MS apps I'll never use. 16:52:03 that's what i don't undersatnd 16:52:05 *understand 16:52:35 same 16:52:56 and they've been fine ever since the first boot when I clicked on them to cache the icons... 16:56:27 *** ZachThibeau_ (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 16:57:08 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Nick collision from services.) 16:57:11 please test: http://portableapps.com/node/18475 16:57:13 *** ZachThibeau_ is now known as ZachThibeau 16:57:14 for everyone else 16:58:36 JohnTHaller: referring to me? 16:59:51 no, you tested it 17:00:05 just making sure 17:02:51 *** ImAMac is now known as Bensawsome 17:05:39 *** anc96 (i=52003c2c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7e617796d873cb96) has joined #portableapps 17:05:44 * Gizmokid2005 is off to grab some food, bbs 17:05:46 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 17:05:47 Hello 17:05:54 hi anc96 17:06:02 how do i set up a proper acc on this chat? 17:07:20 *** anc96 has quit (Client Quit) 17:14:39 ok... 17:24:07 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 17:32:03 *** sar3th has quit ("work to do") 17:36:22 *** Brando (i=42c29114@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a5fb7428ee279cd0) has joined #portableapps 17:46:22 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 17:50:05 *** D3z (n=D3zmodos@dsl-243-36-177.telkomadsl.co.za) has joined #portableapps 17:50:18 hey 17:50:25 hello D3z. Can we help you with something? 17:50:36 is it possible to like open more than 1 app at a time with the platform? 17:50:39 the new one 17:50:56 because the old one like "lagged" when it faded out so you could open mutliple apps.... 17:50:58 you mean before it minizmies to the tray again? 17:51:06 hmmm 17:51:09 i dont think you can 17:51:26 :/ 17:51:30 lemme see on mine 17:51:42 D3z: you can set the menu to stay visible so you can open multiple apps 17:51:43 then close the menu 17:51:58 lol thats what im looking for >_> 17:52:08 :D 17:55:03 not found it? 17:55:18 you have to edit the ini to do my method D3z 17:55:31 which ini? 17:55:37 the portableapps.ini 17:56:01 x:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data\PortableAppsMenu.ini 17:56:05 where X is your drive letter 17:56:17 RemainVisible=True <-- that's the option you want to set 17:56:47 ... 17:56:59 I dont think I have that particular folder? :/ 17:57:18 where did you install portableapps to? 17:57:23 and what menu version are you running? 17:57:40 I have X:\PortableApps\PortableApps (and then the apps) and the documents folder 17:57:50 the new one 17:57:55 1.5 I think 17:58:04 ye 1.5 17:58:09 if you have 1.5, then you will have a PortableApps.com folder under PortableApps 17:58:13 as that's the location of the menu. 17:58:48 oh soz didnt know that :/ 18:01:40 ok wait now how do you close it? ...:P 18:02:16 without quitting it 18:02:21 or cant you? 18:02:27 just click the tray icon 18:02:40 :P woops 18:02:45 k thanks 18:03:28 yw 18:07:34 *** JohnTHaller is now known as JohnTHaller|away 18:10:32 *** Hestus has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") 18:23:09 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:23:23 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 18:25:37 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 18:25:37 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable and is a Developer at PortableApps.com and also a long standing member of PortableApps.com for 2 years now 18:28:17 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SergentSiler 18:43:17 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:44:10 *** D3z has parted #portableapps () 18:45:08 *** excid3 (i=4233be33@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1a2560c1e92e3b29) has joined #portableapps 18:45:09 excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle 18:46:46 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 18:54:29 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps 18:59:17 *** KevinPorter has quit (Client Quit) 19:02:46 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps 19:12:56 later all, time for work for me 19:13:02 cya ZachThibeau >_> 19:13:12 bye ZachThibeau 19:13:17 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 19:17:23 *** andreasma (n=andi@p3E9D260B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:19:49 hi 19:20:48 *** DoctorDude (i=53ffd1ae@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7f2998d5fb22e21f) has joined #portableapps 19:21:40 *** daBomb69 has parted #portableapps () 19:21:55 *** DoctorDude has quit (Client Quit) 19:22:24 *** daBomb69 (n=Compaq_O@66.43.242.42) has joined #portableapps 19:22:25 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 19:24:50 hello andreasma 19:25:33 *** Euphonium|away is now known as Suiseiseki 19:25:45 hi Gizmokid2005 19:27:39 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:27:54 *** Sui-away is now known as Suiseiseki[prpl] 19:28:07 *** Suiseiseki (n=desurage@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 19:28:22 Desu! 19:28:32 *** Suiseiseki has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 19:28:42 D: 19:28:54 *** Suiseiseki (n=desurage@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 19:29:08 meh, wrong client 19:29:29 Desu! (Again :P) 19:30:44 lol 19:32:24 /b/tards 19:33:15 lol excid3 :P 19:36:35 :) 19:36:38 *** anc96 (i=52003c2c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-07c84256c5ca25ee) has joined #portableapps 19:36:43 Hi 19:36:46 * excid3 looks for his loltoast habbo raiding tool 19:36:55 I have a questions about Numpty Physics 19:37:34 when you open the game, nothing happens when I click the start button 19:38:23 excid3: Pool's Closed 19:38:45 anc96: to answer your question earlier about setting up an account, type this (without the quotes) "/msg nickserv help" 19:38:53 thanks 19:39:26 yw anc96 19:39:39 a windows with the pabot has opened 19:41:10 is said: " Say something, you have tells waiting for you." 19:41:26 I said: "How do I register an account?" "in this chat" 19:41:34 but i have no reply 19:42:11 Gizmokid2005: also, how do I join portableapps-ot ? 19:42:54 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 19:43:07 onestoploser: Pool has aids. 19:43:13 click #portableapps-ot since you are using mibbit 19:43:39 ah, thank you 19:43:57 so, does anyone know how i start a game in numpty physiscs? 19:44:09 anc96: I don't think anyone in here knows numpty physics, so you're probably better of posting at the forums. 19:45:15 i dont yet have a forum acc :( 19:45:41 my favorite pic, /b/tard-obama http://www.flickr.com/photos/20473873@N03/3231044754/ 19:53:28 bye :P 19:53:44 *** anc96 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 19:55:36 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@clsm-74-46-42-247-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 19:55:39 Oni-Neoxes is liking his new desktop: http://tinyurl.com/dz2xmb 19:55:50 *** KevinPorter has quit ("Cheers") 19:55:53 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:55:59 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@clsm-74-46-42-247-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 19:56:00 Oni-Neoxes is liking his new desktop: http://tinyurl.com/dz2xmb 19:56:31 sorry bout that 19:56:40 http://portableapps.com/node/18484 <-- looks very cool o: 19:57:17 Yarly 19:58:13 *** AppGuy (i=4125189f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7ef831072de2bf7b) has joined #portableapps 19:58:25 <_< 20:01:23 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Bye D:") 20:08:20 *** AppGuy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20:09:29 >_>\ 20:09:29 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:09:38 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 20:17:05 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps 20:36:48 .tell ZachThibeau Redirect it to my computer. I'll be gone @ 6:30 (Ur time) and will be back around 10:30 (ur time) 20:36:48 dbdii407: I'll pass that on when I next see ZachThibeau. 20:42:55 *** excid3 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20:50:15 *** JohnTHaller|away is now known as JohnTHaller 20:51:02 Anyone in here who has not tested 1.5.1 and reported back on results will receive a FAIL tag near the name in the forums :-P 20:51:03 http://portableapps.com/node/18475 20:51:39 I installed, but didn't have problems with the previous one. 20:51:51 This one seems to work fine. 20:51:52 JohnTHaller: Forgot to report, I had no problems either. 20:52:00 * daBomb69 reports back, it works grate! 20:52:04 heh 20:52:18 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-67-189-254-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:52:18 gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!! 20:54:42 JohnTHaller: Are you still going to have to mess with the installers even though PAP 1.5.1 works? 20:55:32 * SrgSiler|AFK downloads and tests in order not to recieve fail status 20:55:56 * daBomb69 HAD to DL and test, so he doesn't get FAIL tag:D 20:57:14 daBomb69: There's a PAM 1.5.1??? 20:57:26 No, the old installers just won't cause the menu to refresh. So, the menu will pause when it runs them from Options - Install a New App 20:57:38 oh, ok 20:57:43 gluxon: "3:53:29 PM) JohnTHaller: Anyone in here who has not tested 1.5.1 and reported back on results will receive a FAIL tag near the name in the forums :-P 20:57:43 (3:53:30 PM) JohnTHaller: http://portableapps.com/node/18475" 20:59:57 *** onestoploser has parted #portableapps () 21:01:03 *** daBomb69 is now known as daBomb69|Away 21:03:22 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 21:06:18 *** PatrickP|Away is now known as PatrickPatience 21:07:01 JohnTHaller: nice note 21:07:07 and I better not get a fail tag :P 21:07:23 JohnTHaller: FAIL. 21:07:26 Err. 21:07:34 Gizmokid2005: FAIL. Dunno why. 21:07:37 watch it rmccue you are on that list :P 21:07:58 List? :O 21:08:08 Man, only two reports on the menu test so far? 21:08:20 Gizmokid2005: Why'd you have to mention it to him? :P 21:08:28 I'm on it. 21:08:36 PatrickPatience: He's got a few in IRC here. 21:09:03 PatrickPatience: no, dabomb and I did it in here with John earlier 21:09:16 wow...sounds dirty, please refrain from gutter thoughts on that statment... 21:09:40 Gizmokid2005: Did what? 21:09:47 * rmccue has no idea what's going on. 21:09:53 read the LOGS :P 21:09:56 Baha... I wasn't thinkin' anything before you mentioned it. 21:10:02 [16:51:27] <@JohnTHaller> Anyone in here who has not tested 1.5.1 and reported back on results will receive a FAIL tag near the name in the forums :-P 21:10:02 [16:51:28] <@JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/node/18475 21:10:06 rmccue: ^^^ 21:10:31 Ah, awesome. I always wanted one of those. 21:11:04 *** KevinPorter is now known as KevinPorter|away 21:11:46 JohnTHaller: Neither of the previous bugs seem to be present for me. 21:11:57 I'll play around with it a bit more to make sure nothing else was introduced. 21:16:02 *** ptmb (n=PTMblogg@bl7-215-162.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #portableapps 21:16:02 ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/ 21:17:33 Whoa... a Task Coach release. 21:17:35 Hi everybody. 21:18:24 anybody here use bartpe at all? 21:18:28 Hey. 21:18:32 Not I, sir. 21:19:09 >Howdy, 21:19:09 >... Although English is the only language I speak, it doesn't look like it would be hard to clean up some of the strings in both the client and on your support site. 21:19:09 Dear Howdy, 21:19:14 Hi JohnTHaller and PatrickPatience, no, unfortunatelly I don't use bartpe 21:19:19 Most certainly made my day. 21:19:32 too bad. i just figured out a fix for it crashing on bartpe due to there being no systray 21:19:43 JohnTHaller: I do 21:19:48 The man who called me Howdy later went on to say that he though the translations were fairly correct. 21:20:11 Hi Gizmokid2005 21:20:14 typically I only use it restore a backup from driveimagexml 21:20:16 hello ptmb 21:20:22 Gizmokid2005: Do you run it on a flash drive? 21:20:46 JohnTHaller: no, I run it from a livecd 21:20:57 ah ok. nvm 21:21:01 I haven't updated it in ages either... 21:21:12 though I do have a spare flashdrive I could set it up on...it might be easier to use than a CD 21:22:20 it's ok. it doesn't impact anything else, so I'm gonna drop it in 1.5.1 21:23:11 Heh: http://www.taskcoach.org/changes.html 21:23:42 Apparently drag + drop from Thunderbird Portable is now fixed... though I /thoroughly/ tested in in the past version and it worked fine. 21:24:08 lol 21:24:28 I'll be back guys. Going to reboot, and i am finally going to update my TrueCrypt from 4 to 5 21:24:52 Haha, it seems like such a lame release. Smallest bug fixes ever. 21:25:04 Hi Frank, 21:25:04 21:25:04 I'm sorry to say, but drag and drop from Thunderbird Portable still isn't working for me. 21:25:04 21:25:04 I've downloaded the newest Taskcoach and the newest Thunderbord Portable. 21:25:05 21:25:05 Nonetheless, good for us I guess, since apparently it wasn't working. 21:25:07 Martin 21:25:18 Gahhh. 21:25:21 PatrickPatience: OMG...sorry guys...stupid formating...but that's from the mailing list for TC 21:25:23 Well he's just a special case. 21:25:26 lol 21:25:30 kinda like dabomb and I for JohnTHaller 21:25:31 lol 21:25:38 He can go not use Thunderbird Portable. 21:25:46 just a thorn in the side 21:25:46 lol 21:25:53 Props to him for not telling /us/ though. 21:25:58 lol I agree 21:26:07 well, now I shall be off for a few, bbs 21:26:10 don't miss me too mcuh 21:26:11 *much 21:27:02 Wow... TIME.com has popups... 21:27:10 so does snopes.com 21:27:13 Anything else missing from 1.5.1? So far got the locale fixes in, menu refresh fix, german backup crash fix, crash when no systray, scroll up/down buttons now scroll a page at a time, removed packageversion from hover over app icons... 21:27:26 Anything else small and quick that should be in? 21:27:36 *** Gizmokid2005 has quit ("be back in a bit.") 21:27:52 JohnTHaller: maybe the opaque wallpaper in WINE? 21:28:21 that's another WINE bug we've hit... and I ain't touching that at the moment 21:28:29 ok 21:28:41 WINE is buggier than we thought :-( 21:29:14 so is it the wallpaper switcher? it changes the wallpaper? 21:29:30 oh, I meant the menu background john :P 21:29:45 (it is not quite posiible to change the wallpaper in WINE) 21:30:01 Oh ok... I guess I could check on that with that registry key... remember it offhand? 21:30:03 the wallpaper is managed by nautilus or KDE or whatever DE is being ran 21:30:12 one sec... 21:30:51 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine 21:31:06 that is the place where more keys related to WINE are 21:31:27 any chances those would be a on a regular windows machine? 21:31:55 have no idea, but only if a user as an app that coincidentally is called WINE too I gess 21:33:11 good night 21:33:22 *** andreasma has quit ("Verlassend") 21:34:09 and even in the possibility above I am not sure if that registry key would exist in Windows 21:34:17 *** rmccue has quit ("The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two"") 21:36:12 *** Gizmokid2005 (i=4b8074a6@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a27ccb37f703a84c) has joined #portableapps 21:36:13 Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually). 21:36:39 oh, it seemed fixed in the RC you made JohnTHaller, but was the icons bug in WINE fixed already? 21:36:43 Wasn't expecting such a long wait for this copying...so I figured I'd hang out for a bit... 21:43:06 *** Suiseiseki is now known as Suiseiseki------ 21:43:10 ptmb: No, that is a more complicated fix. 21:43:27 I'm not gonna do the Wine fixes without broader testing. So it'll be the next release 21:43:34 ok 21:44:10 *** Suiseiseki------ is now known as Suiseiseki 21:45:21 *** Gizmokid2005 has parted #portableapps () 21:46:21 *** daBomb69|Away is now known as daBomb69 21:55:48 *** AppGuy (i=41251b0a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fc228b93715b0c9d) has joined #portableapps 21:58:32 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@port-92-205-117-146.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #portableapps 21:58:33 sar3th is working on LyX portable 21:58:45 hello to everyone 21:58:55 hello 21:59:18 Hey hey. 21:59:41 hello 21:59:46 nothing going on in here? 21:59:53 Nope 22:00:10 * AppGuy is tired 22:00:36 * sar3th too 22:01:56 * daBomb69 took a nap earlyer...' 22:02:44 * MaienM took a nap, once, in a long forgotten past. 22:03:37 daBomb69, MaienM: naps are portals... think of it :D 22:03:49 * daBomb69 is confuzed 22:04:08 that was my intention :D 22:04:33 ptmb: I prefer not to think atm :P 22:04:42 ok, think later :P 22:04:53 * daBomb69 tried to think once, it broke his brain 22:05:19 daBomb69: this time read the instructions manual before trying ot think :D 22:05:33 :P 22:06:21 *** AppGuy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22:09:29 *** elek (i=60e3a828@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9f9fc6e55effed36) has joined #portableapps 22:10:00 hello could somebody tell me how to install portableapps in my flash drive 22:10:54 hello elek, do you mean the launcher (=platform) or just a portable app, like for example firefox? 22:11:21 yes, the launcher, i've downloaded if from portableapps site 22:11:34 elek: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#installing 22:12:10 and for adding apps, http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps 22:12:50 oh, thanks for your help, thanks sar3th and thanks MaienM 22:13:51 *** elek has quit (Client Quit) 22:16:41 *** mib_adl7cr (i=43676252@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e61f0c93db731b48) has joined #portableapps 22:17:03 hello? 22:17:13 need a little help 22:17:39 hello mib_adl7cr, just go ahead and ask your question, we'll try our best 22:18:58 ive moded my r34 menu skin and other stuff ,the ini file and fsi file but i cant figure out how to embed and media skin to the menu 22:19:15 anyone have any idea's 22:19:25 mib_adl7cr: r34 is a mod of the menu and unsupported. 22:19:50 pam mod 22:20:01 unsupported? 22:20:06 yes 22:20:13 what you mean 22:20:26 as in, we did not make it and do not offer support for it 22:20:40 we will try to help but since we use the regular version we probably cannot 22:20:46 oh,my bad,didnt know this was a diff forum 22:20:50 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 22:21:05 mib_adl7cr: It's an unofficial fork of a much older version of the PortableApps.com Platform that was not created by or supported by PortableApps.com. It's used by a few thousand people but fewer now that the official 1.5 is released with hiding and renaming built in. 22:21:20 ok, does the one you use support embeding 22:21:28 mib_adl7cr: embedding of what? 22:21:59 media player 22:22:35 nope. to my knowledge the MOD didn't either. you could create custom buttons that ran specific EXEs, I believe. 22:22:37 like when you embed a media player onto a web page 22:22:51 *** Soike (n=poi@ool-457e6f7f.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #portableapps 22:22:55 try to embed to the menu 22:22:57 mib_adl7cr: why do you want to embed media into the menu itself? 22:23:05 ya 22:23:10 it be cool 22:23:45 *** Soike has parted #portableapps () 22:24:18 think i would have to make indidual icons and destinations 22:24:26 somthing in that route 22:24:42 This is actually the first request I've heard of it. It would be a bit difficult as we'd need to depend on the local PC having the proper windows media player version and stuff 22:24:55 well no 22:25:49 my make a drop down menu inside of the menu and then put clickable destination links for each song 22:26:28 mybe from vlc 22:26:58 embeding of the bottons and file /open 22:27:01 I personally don't see the added value of this, since this is something that the portable apps we do can do perfectly fine, and they are made to do so. 22:27:27 yea i love the portable theme 22:27:36 *** Aerobender (n=Dieter@user-12l2mgl.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #portableapps 22:27:38 *** Aerobender has parted #portableapps () 22:27:50 ive used ceedo then i went to this one 22:28:11 this is the far best 22:28:12 Ceedo's 2 expencive. 22:28:16 mib_adl7cr: So you'd want hard-coded links to songs? 22:28:25 mybe 22:28:47 *** mib_adl7cr has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22:29:26 JohnTHaller: do you think it's possible to localize the folder names in the "documents" folder? 22:30:43 it will be tricky. i have a possible way but not til 2.0 or later 22:31:02 we don't want to actually use localized names as it will break all nonunicode apps 22:31:45 yeah i didn't mean just use localized foldernames but make them look localized, like vista does with c:\users 22:32:09 we're gonna do that with the same trick using a delphi-compiled resource file 22:33:03 and then some desktop.ini with LocalizedResourceName? 22:33:24 yup 22:33:36 awesome! =) 22:40:20 *** Gizmokid2005 (n=Gizmokid@75-128-116-166.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 22:40:21 Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually). 22:46:04 JohnTHaller: I think I /may/ have pinpointed what my issue is/was with my icons in my start menu 22:46:15 I think it's because I changed the default Program Files folder from C: to D: 22:47:45 at least that's why OE and Address Book weren't happy 22:47:58 Heh, yesterday was MAR10 day. 22:48:13 lol 22:49:36 *** homexcid3 (i=4233be37@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-da736590c1dacb28) has joined #portableapps 22:50:10 Heh, talk about an amazing girlfriend: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/11/gameflavored-cookies.html 22:50:49 haha 22:50:51 no doubt 22:51:14 but an amazing one, is one who can beat pacman for gameboy or mrs. pacman...in less than 30 minutes...start to finish. 22:51:27 *** PatrickPatience is now known as PatrickP|Away 22:51:42 *** PatrickP|Away is now known as PatrickPatience 22:51:52 *** Aerobender (n=Dieter@user-12l2mgl.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #portableapps 22:51:53 *** Aerobender has parted #portableapps () 22:57:04 *** gluxon has quit ("Leaving.") 22:58:40 thats not really a skill I find important in a girl..... xD 22:59:42 lol me neither, it's just nifty ;) 22:59:51 *** KevinPorter|away is now known as KevinPorter 23:00:43 * daBomb69 finds that skill important in a girl 23:01:08 Nerds. 23:01:15 *cough* 23:02:19 *cough*aint that like the pot calling the kettle black?*cough* 23:02:35 No, it's just POT 23:02:39 *** solrack520 (n=Owner@adsl-77-48-241.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #portableapps 23:03:06 Gizmokid2005: Let me have my momentary glory. :P 23:03:18 KevinPorter: I did...for 1:05 mins 23:03:32 Bleh. 23:03:46 a moment can be as short as a second or two 23:03:58 .dict moment 23:04:02 moment - 1. short time, 2. particular instant 23:04:14 lol 23:04:31 Whatever, you win. :P 23:04:35 thanks :P 23:04:48 mibbit's smilies are ugly 23:04:50 Help - I'm having a problem when I load a new portableapp it never get to finish, but when I ctl-alt delte I can close it & it works. what should I do? 23:04:51 solrack520: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 23:05:07 Ok, anybody wanna test a special build? 23:05:11 Me! 23:05:14 solrack520: that's currently being worked on by JohnTHaller 23:05:18 it's a known issue 23:05:52 solrack520: Try this 1.5.1 test release: http://portableapps.com/node/18475 23:06:05 ok thanks 23:06:14 It's stable and can install right over your existing release. It should fix your issue. 23:06:45 ok I'll give it a try 23:06:49 Only caveat is that existing installers that you run directly (not through Options - Add a New App in the menu) will not automatically appear in the menu 23:07:18 JohnTHaller: Is this the same one that you released this morning? 23:07:28 that link is, yes 23:07:39 but I have a special test for folks in here to test if they're up for it 23:07:47 *** Roamer (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.83.94.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 23:07:48 Roamer is one of the Linux geeks that are found here from time to time. 23:07:49 Oh Really:D!! 23:07:52 I'll test it JohnTHaller 23:08:13 *** solrack520 has parted #portableapps () 23:08:40 I have some time, so count me in 23:09:00 Ok, for advanced folks, this can drop into a 1.5 or 1.5.1 setup. 23:09:15 Download: http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/1/PortableAppsPlatform.exe 23:09:35 Place it in X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com. You can rename your existing one PortableAppsPlatformOld.exe to save it first. 23:10:14 k 23:10:15 saved 23:10:57 downloading the latest 1.5 release to be sure 23:11:01 well...trying...FF is locking up now. 23:11:45 done 23:12:33 Ok, that new release, you should see just the DisplayVersion in hovers over PAF apps now. No package version at the end in brackets 23:13:11 JohnTHaller: correct 23:13:22 yup 23:13:34 The scroll up down buttons when clicked now do a page at a time instead of a single app 23:13:53 I don't have nearly enough apps to test that 23:13:59 Yup 23:14:04 (you can use the arrow keys up and down to go singly still if you want) 23:14:37 yup 23:14:38 * sar3th suggest shift+click for that 23:14:39 Ok, if anyone wants to be creative. Close ALL your apps and files on that portable drive except the platform menu... 23:14:50 JohnTHaller: scrolling works 23:14:55 sar3th: Nope. No real reason to only go one at a time at all 23:15:04 Hol on, me will do that! 23:15:28 bye everybody, gonna sleep 23:15:32 gnight 23:15:33 bye ptmb 23:15:34 bye ptmb 23:15:38 *** ptmb has quit ("Leaving.") 23:15:39 ok, so who wants to live dangerously? 23:16:15 I would, but I'm testing from C: atm 23:16:22 Anyone who does. Close EVERYTHING on your portable device except the platform. Watch to be sure that your drive isn't being used (no light flashing). Then pull the drive (aka unsafe eject, aka what you should NOT do). 23:16:24 I could perform the test in wine though 23:16:38 * daBomb69 is not testing from C, so will do that 23:17:03 I'll try with wine 23:17:16 The menu should automatically close, swap the wallpaper back (if you are using the switcher) and not have the error about being unable to write to the INI we used to get. 23:17:26 *** daBomb691 (n=Compaq_O@66.43.242.42) has joined #portableapps 23:17:39 * daBomb691 is now running Pidgin from C drive 23:17:46 *** daBomb69 has parted #portableapps () 23:18:23 Pull out unsafely 23:18:36 the platform is still running (using WINE) 23:18:46 wine = fail 23:18:59 PAP died 23:19:13 died? 23:19:18 like closed 23:19:21 good 23:19:30 wallpaper switch back (if you had custom wallpaper) 23:19:31 ? 23:19:38 that's what it's supposed to do 23:19:42 Hold on, let me restart w/wallpaper 23:20:14 MaienM: I think I know how to get it working in Wine... lemme check something 23:22:15 *** mib_6f5xys (i=43676252@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d9e7c1fea4d6c8ad) has joined #portableapps 23:22:36 starting up PAP now 23:23:48 Ok guys, try this one now. Same deal. (This doesn't fix Wine): http://portableapps.com/temp/livetests/2/PortableAppsPlatform.exe 23:24:18 MaienM: It;s another Wine bug. It doesn't properly send notifications of device removals to apps that ask for it. 23:24:24 Wats different between this one and #1? 23:24:31 one of the many -_- 23:24:43 I can't test the unsafe removal protection right now, but the previous question about the versioning is still good 23:24:46 #2 should work the same way. it uses a backup method to detect removal just in case 23:26:13 Oh, and if anyone is equally adventurous. Close the platform. You can hop in task manager and kill explorer. Keep it open and manually go and start the platform. It'll run (it used to crash with no systray). You can re reun it to appear when it goes away. close it like normal. then run explorer.exe in task manager 23:27:48 *** mib_6f5xys has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23:27:53 So, run PAP, then kill explorer, then run explorer again? 23:28:54 right? 23:29:06 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 23:30:10 ok, explorers dead 23:30:11 no. kill explorer. then run PAP (you can use task manager). it'll work. then you can restart explorer 23:31:31 *** Roamer_ (n=Aristotl@dialup-4.225.83.245.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #portableapps 23:31:58 *** Roamer has quit (Nick collision from services.) 23:32:12 *** Roamer_ is now known as Roamer 23:32:54 it worked! 23:35:50 cool. that's what was preventing it from working in bartpe and similar 23:35:57 oh 23:36:27 *** JacobMastel (n=Jacob@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 23:36:27 JacobMastel is an amature AHK coder. If you need/want a script ask him he might do it for ya ;) 23:41:25 So, now there's 3 bug fixes in 1.5.1, are there any more bugs we need to test? 23:42:07 JacobMastel: You fixed your spelling! 23:42:13 I did :P 23:42:19 Yay! 23:44:14 i think we're good 23:44:28 yay! 23:44:47 K I got Xenon up on the Dev page...any requests for the next? 23:44:57 *** pa_0054 (i=c6c8b5cd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9ae67c349a4fc460) has joined #portableapps 23:45:05 Hello pa_0054 23:46:59 gotta go now. l8tr guys 23:47:05 *** sar3th has quit (""Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded."") 23:47:56 lol, nice quit... 23:48:02 ok, i think we're good on the testing now. 23:48:08 hey wait a second... 23:48:19 I'm just verifying XP/vista/2k normal and guest and win98 23:48:22 JacobMastel: you mean the test releases page? 23:48:25 Yes 23:49:01 I updated TMWPortable (and made a post for it) but it hasn't been updated on the test releases page yet 23:49:11 Ok, back later 23:49:15 *** JohnTHaller is now known as JohnTHaller|away 23:49:17 JacobMastel: http://portableapps.com/development/test#comment-113520 23:49:49 no I ment this 23:49:51 http://portableapps.com/development/test/status 23:50:07 oh, well then, my bad :P 23:50:29 anyway, really off to bed now 23:50:32 *** pa_0054 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23:50:44 goodnight MaienM|Sleep 23:56:18 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))