00:00:03 to see if that works 00:00:13 And installerwise, nothing much is really changed. Some of the language files are updated. 00:00:24 But they compile correctly on my box. 00:00:33 Yeah, it seems like one of the RTL languages is causing the error on yours 00:00:45 well even without the languages part it fails 00:00:49 guess its my install then 00:00:55 I'll fix myself a new one then ;) 00:01:26 Try going into the standard NSIS examples and try compiling one of their multilingual examples. 00:01:27 That' 00:01:34 ;ll let you know definitively 00:01:35 *** pa_0459 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00:02:33 JohnTHaller: Suggestion: Can you make a optional MakeNSIS.exe cmd window appear? Something like the PortableApps.com Backup? 00:02:33 which one of the examples would that be? 00:03:08 C:\Program Files\NSIS\Examples\Modern UI\MultiLanguage.nsi 00:03:23 *** gluxon is now known as gluxon|gone 00:03:54 gluxon|gone: The problem with that is then it doesn't generate the log file. I may include that as an option, though, if people want it. 00:04:11 ? 00:04:16 that fails too, same error :( 00:04:19 There's a silent switch. 00:04:36 You have that one in the parameter. 00:04:43 *on (one) 00:05:03 Ok, yeah, it's your install 00:05:36 alright then, I'll get myself a new one ;) 00:05:37 gluxon|gone: If you set it to output to a log file, it won't show the log as it is generated within the interface. So, either you get a log file, or you get to see it life in the MakeNSISW window. 00:05:59 alright... I need to get some food 00:06:15 And I need to go eat dinner. 00:06:16 yay for a fast internet connection :P 00:06:25 and I should go to sleep 00:06:48 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 00:07:14 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 00:19:56 *** Gizmokid2005 (n=Gizmokid@75-134-112-128.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 00:20:00 Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually), and is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 AND RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271 00:27:25 *** gluxon|gone has quit ("Leaving.") 00:36:19 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 00:36:46 ello rmccue 00:37:57 ohai rmccue 00:39:28 '_' 00:39:33 Lol 00:55:30 *** TimClark (i=0c49f1cf@unaffiliated/timclark) has joined #portableapps 00:55:30 TimClark thinks "We are one but we are many - And from all the lands on earth we come - We share a dream and sing with one voice - I am - You are - We are PAppsian " :) 00:58:05 Thought for today, there is need when arriving during support to comment on the fact that you will not be chatting during support because there is support going on :( 00:58:37 ... 01:25:46 *** Guest2287 is now known as ZachThibeau 01:29:40 *** AppGuy (i=4a4d3ba5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-da15704a967ce60d) has joined #portableapps 01:29:57 Hi all :) 01:30:23 ello 01:30:47 all = SergentSiler ??? 01:30:54 ^_^ 01:32:06 ;););););););) 01:32:15 lol 01:32:31 * AppGuy is having eye spazims 01:32:36 *** TimClark has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01:32:58 no, why 01:33:07 *** AppGuy has quit (Client Quit) 01:33:12 ... 01:35:45 *** TimClark (i=0c49f1cf@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3fd1cfcd52855555) has joined #portableapps 01:37:14 *** Aerobender (n=Dieter@user-12l2mgl.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #portableapps 01:37:18 *** Aerobender has parted #portableapps () 01:41:47 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 01:46:37 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 02:01:54 *** powerjuce (n=powerjuc@c-68-32-234-161.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:01:54 powerjuce knows all 02:02:49 *** powerjuce is now known as powerjuce|away 02:10:26 *** AppGuy (i=4a4d3ba5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1d6f019b3c02e376) has joined #portableapps 02:19:02 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 02:25:32 *** dragonmage (i=newdrago@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:25:33 dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man. 02:26:44 *** AppGuy has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02:36:02 *** powerjuce|away has quit ("peace out all") 02:57:12 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 02:57:13 Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you! 03:00:07 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 03:03:37 *** excid3 (n=Marj_Oli@dial-66-51-190-39.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 03:03:37 excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle 03:03:50 I truly am sorry. 03:08:03 i am truely sorry for your lots 03:11:15 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps () 03:12:00 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 03:12:42 *** Don_Miguel (n=MichaelW@200.87.191.223) has joined #portableapps 03:22:26 *** excid3 has parted #portableapps () 03:24:27 *** drag|away is now known as dragonmage 03:35:16 *** WastePotato has quit () 03:35:40 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 03:37:34 *** WastePotato has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:37:54 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 04:05:09 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 04:23:15 *** WastePotato has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:41:25 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 04:41:26 Whibo is a portableapps.com user 04:48:51 *** PatrickPatience (i=patrickp@unaffiliated/patrickpatience) has joined #portableapps 04:48:52 PatrickPatience is a PortableApps.com moderator and developer (http://PatrickPatience.com) 04:52:27 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 04:58:51 *** Whibo has quit () 05:04:42 *** Espreon has quit ("Tengo que ir... Yeahzorz...") 05:10:25 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 05:36:14 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("screw google, use oxysearch, the concentrated formula (TM) http://www.oxysearch.com/") 05:46:07 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 07:01:23 *** Aaron12 (i=56a91b65@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9acd6d340c6f3315) has joined #portableapps 07:02:35 *** PatrickPatience is now known as PatrickP|Away 07:02:41 do you think for some new software we could have adobe flash on there for computers that dot have flash when you need it 07:03:36 *** Aaron12 has quit (Client Quit) 07:55:38 *** TaffinFoxcroft (n=TaffinFo@121.216.29.245) has joined #portableapps 09:04:43 what exactly the PortableApps Installer 0.90 is actualy? 09:08:15 *** purple has quit ("Only two things are definite, Death and Format C:\") 09:09:08 *** purple (n=purple@91.143.222.110) has joined #portableapps 09:42:56 *** BjornH has quit ("Leaving") 10:04:18 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 10:26:03 *** purple_ (n=purple@91.143.222.110) has joined #portableapps 10:26:03 *** purple has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:27:34 * TaffinFoxcroft wonders if anyone else plays discworld... 10:29:22 *** purple__ (n=purple@91.143.222.110) has joined #portableapps 10:44:50 *** purple_ has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10:45:48 *** Don_Miguel has quit ("Ex-Chat") 10:47:27 *** ChrisMorgan (i=724c27fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-357c88e13d229da7) has joined #portableapps 10:47:27 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more 10:48:45 hello ChrisMorgan :) 10:48:55 Hey MaienM|..Sleep? 10:49:08 oh, forgot to change my name again I see :P 10:49:10 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 10:49:27 I'm pretty sure I'm awake now ;) 10:49:42 Well then, how's BPBible Dutch goin'? 10:49:52 bout 50% now 10:50:01 so making progress again :D 10:50:23 aha, its ChrisMorgan! 10:51:23 purple__: the installer automates the process of building releases. It uses stuff in appinfo.ini and installer.ini and builds the installer from those, automatically, rather than needing you to maintain multiple copies of the installer code, and coding NSIS to get it to work, etc. And it makes it more user-friendly :-) 10:52:03 aha, it*'*s TaffinFoxcroft! ;-) 10:52:11 *** rmccue has quit ("The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two"") 10:52:32 * TaffinFoxcroft goes back to being drunk on discworld whilst setting up a debian server 10:52:37 :s 10:53:05 .wik Discworld MUD 10:53:09 * ChrisMorgan goes back to updating BPBible SVN with the new installer and format stuff :-) 10:53:10 "Discworld MUD is a free Multi-User Dungeon set in the Discworld as depicted in the Discworld series of books by Terry Pratchett." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld_MUD 10:53:55 Simplifying the launcher significantly, using DefaultData for SwordBible and BibleCS support, then just updating drive letters. 10:58:15 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 10:59:35 Hey sar3th :-) 10:59:51 hello ChrisMorgan! :D 11:02:13 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 11:30:08 *** TaffinFoxcroft has quit ("the magical leoplurodon says that way, charlie! (exit stage right)") 11:31:10 *** TaffinFoxcroft (n=TaffinFo@121.216.29.245) has joined #portableapps 11:36:33 *** upnPAD has quit ("oi na") 11:42:09 Hmm... I don't know how I should handle BPBible with my PAL test. 11:43:10 You see, I need to replace DataPath= with AugmentPath=, and then AugmentPath=$LASTRESOURCESDIRECTORY with DataPath=$LASTRESOURCESDIRECTORY, and then write the INI string DataPath to $EXEDIR\Data\resources. Hmm. 11:58:29 *** TaffinFoxcroft has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:02:27 ChrisMorgan: what does "Transliterated" mean? 12:03:10 Just put in without translating it. 12:03:21 So for something in the same script, you leave it. 12:04:16 For a Hebrew or Greek word, you take the sound of the word, and put it into English. 12:04:27 (Take that last line of mine, not the earlier two) 12:04:34 ah, I see ;) 12:04:37 *** purple__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:04:43 s/English/whatever language you are using/ 12:05:21 would "Converted" (or well, the dutch word for it) be a acceptable alternative? 12:06:26 Hmm... probably not, that could mean translated /or/ transliterated... 12:07:08 well, I wouldn't know how to translate it otherwise 12:07:11 How's "transliteratie"? 12:07:26 That's what Google Translate says for "transliterate" :P 12:07:32 never heard of that word 12:07:46 It's probably just taking a mask operation to guess. 12:07:51 yeah 12:08:00 it gave me "trans lite rate" as result :P 12:08:18 Nice! 12:08:30 It's just that you're not using vertalen, it does need to be taking the sound of the word and writing it as its sounded. 12:08:33 *as it sounds 12:08:51 I guess I'l just use "Converted" for now, and mark it as fuzzy 12:09:05 maybe some other dutchie knows the word for it 12:09:12 Hmm... fuzzy isn't meant to be used for that, but that's what it gets used as most often :P 12:09:17 could try to ask my parents about it when they get home, maybe they know 12:09:45 fuzzy is meant for incorrect/incomplete/lacking translations right? 12:10:23 No, there's some othre use, I just can't remember exactly what it's meant to be... some special Gettext thing. 12:10:54 Uncertain translation was what I just took it as at first, then my brother Ben told me otherwise. 12:10:57 Just mark it fuzzy :P 12:11:35 hmm... 12:11:49 well, according to the dutch wikipedia, "Transliteratie" is in fact correct 12:11:54 so I'll use that ;) 12:11:56 :o 12:12:02 OK, sounds good :-) 12:12:12 If people'll understand it, of course. 12:12:20 dunno about that :P 12:12:27 I mean, I never heard of it myself 12:30:06 BTW MaienM, transliterate = translitereren 12:33:29 hmm.. right :P 12:35:09 and "Transliterated" = "Getranslitereerd" 12:35:20 If you say so ;-) 12:35:37 I do :P 12:35:42 lets hope I'm right about it ;) 12:49:10 only 160 more strings to go -_- :P 12:49:42 Good :-) 12:49:51 Well, I'm going to bed now, so goodnight-o :-) 12:49:57 night ChrisMorgan 12:50:16 Just finishing off my last change to the BPBible Portable launcher... 12:50:19 bye ChrisMorgan 12:52:25 *** sar3th has quit (""Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded."") 12:56:30 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("mibbit.com: Get BPBible Portable! http://portableapps.com/BPBiblePortable") 13:33:00 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 13:33:01 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 13:34:38 hello JohnTHaller 13:34:53 hola 13:34:59 build a new XP VM? 13:35:01 oh, btw, got myself a new install of windows in my VM, and it works now ;) 13:35:07 yep :) 13:37:06 cool 13:43:18 For some reason the custom build I have does not have the icon embed in correctly. As a result, it will not have the TMW icon when running.... I don't seem to be able to fix this, XN resource editor seems to be failing to open the exe. I'm kinda thinking of going back to 0.0.28.1 for now, since it seems that 0.0.29 has introduced quite a lot of bugs, and not having the icon would be bad for win 7 users right? I think that, with the amount of 13:43:18 bugs 0.0.29 has introduced, 0.0.29.1 will come pretty soon anyway. What do you think, keep or dump 0.0.29? The disadvantages do not seem to outweight the advantages in my eyes..... 13:44:57 devs mention how long it'll be? 13:45:04 i think we're ok going with the previous release for now 13:45:24 nope, no official mention of it for now 13:45:28 alright :) 13:50:52 btw, JohnTHaller, if the installer fails the files it creates in the Other/Source directory will remain, is that supposed to happen? 13:51:01 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SergentSiler 13:51:11 Yeah. To help analyze the issue. 13:56:00 should I release this as another PR, or are we going official with it already? 13:56:57 is it done done? 13:57:16 everything I can think of doing, is done 13:57:31 it hasn't had any bugs from the beginning, so thats nothing to worry about 13:57:53 let's do it as a PR just for this one... just to be sure we have all the bases covered. and since I won't be able to release it til later this week anyway 13:58:06 you can do PR today and we'll go final end of this week or beginning of next 13:58:17 you're using my NSIS win7 patch right? 14:01:46 what patch? 14:02:26 in the forums 14:02:37 NSIS launchers and installers don't work right on win7 without it 14:04:33 nope, not yet 14:04:38 I'll do that first then 14:09:27 *** purple (n=purple@91.143.222.110) has joined #portableapps 14:14:44 JohnTHaller: the newest installer seems to fail on wine (just accidentally clicked twice :P) 14:15:14 hmm, nvm, it works now that I try it again :/ 14:15:17 i hadn't tested it on wine yet 14:15:22 heh 14:15:27 make sure the header bmp looks ok 14:18:14 http://irc.mmfail.irc.su/Screenshot-The%20Mana%20World%20Portable%20|%20PortableApps.com%20Installer.png 14:18:25 looks good enough I'd say ;) 14:23:24 no the header... on the next pages. the app icon :-) 14:25:29 yeah, that shows up correctly too, I think 14:26:36 JohnTHaller: same location as previois screenshow 14:26:38 *t 14:27:11 app icon shows up in the upper right on the components page and while installer 14:27:13 installing 14:27:47 yep :D 14:32:46 RELEASE: FileZilla Portable 3.2.4.1: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-05-17_-_filezilla_portable_3.2.4.1 14:35:13 *** excid3|eee (n=eeexcid3@pool-98-108-70-74.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 14:48:45 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=kvirc@clsm-74-47-119-108-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 14:54:11 *** aaron12 (i=56a91b65@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5ac4dd5a66537a63) has joined #portableapps 14:54:26 whos online 14:55:42 I am 14:56:48 do you think they should have a adobe flash player 14:57:04 portable 14:58:23 you mean for firefox portable? 14:59:12 no a program called adobe flash that you can install on firefox 14:59:38 aaron12: http://portableapps.com/support/firefox_portable#plugins 15:01:42 *** SteveLamerton (n=Steven@122.50.125.91.rb3.adsl.brightview.com) has joined #portableapps 15:01:42 SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;) 15:01:55 *** Suiseiseki (n=desulove@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 15:01:56 Suiseiseki is desu 15:02:15 hello SteveLamerton, Suiseiseki 15:02:23 Hello MaienM, all 15:02:25 hi 15:04:46 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Client Quit) 15:09:41 *** aaron12 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 15:17:07 hello JohnTHaller, MaienM, SteveLamerton 15:17:09 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 15:18:11 Hello Gizmokid2005 15:18:31 how are things today? 15:18:55 Okish I guess, go my second of 12 exams tomorrow 15:19:06 SteveLamerton: ouch...lol good luck with that 15:20:00 Thanks Gizmokid2005, after that three free months until I start university though, I am focusing on that ;) 15:20:15 ahh, yes. THe time between HS and college, I remember those days lol 15:20:31 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 15:20:54 morning everyone 15:21:00 ermm afternoon I guess 15:21:00 morning ZachThibeau 15:21:05 morning for me still :) 15:21:13 Hi ZachThibeau, afternoon for me :) 15:21:15 12:25pm for me :P 15:22:01 .t edt 15:22:01 Sun, 17 May 2009 11:26:36 EDT 15:22:06 16:26 here :P The day is basically over! 15:22:12 .t ADT 15:22:13 Sun, 17 May 2009 12:26:47 ADT 15:23:03 .t MaienM 15:23:03 Sun, 17 May 2009 16:27:37 CET 15:23:11 lies!!! 15:23:17 .t CEST 15:23:18 Sun, 17 May 2009 17:27:52 CEST 15:23:24 summer time -_- 15:24:17 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 15:24:22 ok back 15:25:11 hi SteveLamerton 15:25:23 howdy JohnTHaller 15:25:31 oh hi ZachThibeau 15:25:44 didn't see yuo there 15:25:49 just arrived 15:25:49 *** Simeon1 (n=simeon@dslb-092-075-094-097.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 15:26:06 got back from church :) 15:26:13 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 15:26:14 Whibo is a portableapps.com user 15:26:15 Hi All And Congrats to John T Haller for the latest Paf-specs and the installer!!! 15:26:46 ah ok 15:26:58 thanks, Simeon1. you get to check them out or try the installer yet? 15:27:07 nope 15:27:14 Hi JohnTHaller, and I see the release train has started :) 15:27:16 Hi Simeon1 15:27:22 *** Simeon1 is now known as Simeon 15:27:36 brb 15:27:41 *** Simeon has quit (Client Quit) 15:27:50 *** Simeon (n=simeon@dslb-092-075-094-097.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 15:27:51 Simeon is a Developer at PortableApps.com 15:28:04 now IM back and I got my voice :) 15:28:28 JohnTHaller: can i ask you a quick question concerning the migration of installers to the new format? 15:28:55 unfortunately I am rather busy right now with other stuff and cant invest a lot of time into portableApps.com. 15:32:06 SteveLamerton: yup. toucan will go out soon 15:32:16 sar3th: sure, what's up 15:32:55 i used the following line in my previous launcher to include the language strings: !include PortableApps.comLauncherLANG_${LAUNCHERLANGUAGE}.nsh 15:33:16 yeah, that'll stay the same. launchers are sep from installers 15:33:26 so no changes there? :) 15:33:31 nope 15:33:43 good, thanks, that's all i wanted to know 15:33:44 just be sure to recompile your launcher with the NSIS Win7 patch I posted in the forums 15:33:52 okay 15:35:06 John: Any news on the Drupal translation module yet? 15:35:19 SteveLamerton: when do you want to start on the toucan port to linux? 15:35:29 JohnTHaller: Woooo :D 15:35:55 ZachThibeau: I have a big mercurial merge to do of my 2.1.1 branch then I will probably start after that :) 15:35:58 Simeon: Not yet. I'm working on implementing a new app directory first so that we don't have to update all the different translated pages. 15:36:16 SteveLamerton: cool I'll assist you in any asset you need :D 15:36:27 ok. I am just asking cause Im about to translate some pages... 15:37:23 yeah, do it the same way as usual for now 15:37:31 i will. 15:38:45 Oh and could you set up the installer and format pages for me? 15:39:25 ZachThibeau: Awesome, do you use Ubuntu? 15:39:33 yup 15:39:39 Juanty Juan FTW 15:39:56 Ok, I might grab a copy of the latest Fedora so we have a bit of a range 15:40:06 *** Whibo has quit () 15:40:09 sounds excellent 15:40:26 I have Kubuntu if thats any help :) 15:40:38 Simeon: That will be handy :) 15:40:47 I figured...;) 15:40:49 well simeon we could be the ubuntu team :D 15:40:59 for toucan :P 15:41:11 JohnTHaller: upgrading drupal? 15:41:29 :) only problem is that I hardly use the programm and Im a bit out of spare time... 15:41:40 :P 15:41:53 * SergentSiler can test on mandriva if needed 15:42:18 I think its time for a forum thread on this... :) 15:42:45 Sure, here's the PA.c installer page for DE: http://portableapps.com/de/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer 15:42:46 I think it should be private at first until an alpha is working enough :P 15:42:57 agreed :) 15:43:21 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|sAFK 15:43:27 * SteveLamerton nods 15:43:27 THX John! May take a while till I get to it though. 15:44:08 JohnTHaller: i have reciewed an error as i compiled the new installer: File: "PortableApps.comInstallerHeaderRTL.bmp" -> no files found. 15:44:16 *recieved 15:44:53 as for the format, I think we may keep it EN only for now... since it'll be changing frequently 15:45:05 sar3th: what are you compiling on? what OS, etc? 15:45:06 *** drag|away has quit ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )") 15:45:06 ok 15:45:13 windows xp sp3 15:45:40 Simeon: Or maybe do the translation, but point it back to the main page for the most up to date version... like a note at the top that the EN page is the official spec. 15:46:02 using NSIS portable by ZachThibeau with your windows 7 patch 1 applied 15:46:19 As I dont have that much time, I'd rather wait a bit that doing unneeded work, ok? 15:46:40 sar3th: you doing an installer? you have to use the pa.c installer to do it 15:46:47 Simeon: ok 15:47:14 ah okay thank you 15:47:20 sar3th: the pa.c installer generates those files for you now. 15:47:36 everything in an installer is now configged in appinfo.ini and (optionally) installer.ini 15:47:36 it shows an error message, but i thought it was a normal "success" message ~.~ 15:47:41 my bad, sorry 15:48:47 JohnTHaller: how can I check the AdditionalParameters field in the .ini for a specific string? I tried the following to no avail. 15:48:50 StrCmp $ADDITIONALPARAMETERS "*-vm*" MsgBox MesgBox 15:53:05 RELEASE: WinMerge Portable 2.12.2: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-05-17_-_winmerge_portable_2.12.2 15:53:14 RELEASE: Miranda IM Portable 0.7.19: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-05-17_-_miranda_im_portable_0.7.19 15:53:23 Gizmokid2005: You can't use * in StrCmp 15:53:43 JohnTHaller: is there a wildcard I can use? 15:53:51 Is there not a string find function? 15:54:20 Gizmokid2005: Nope. You need to use something to check in the string for something 15:55:50 Be back later guys 15:55:53 *** SteveLamerton has quit ("Leaving.") 15:55:55 I guess i don't understand...I just want to see if "-vm" exists in the additionalparameters in the ini 15:56:10 right. strcmp is only for comparing EXACT strings 15:56:14 ahh 15:56:19 you need to find a function that'll search inside a string 15:56:22 is there a function for finding strings? 15:56:31 think so... can't remember offhand 15:56:34 i've used it 15:56:48 can't seem to find it in the reference :( 15:57:00 it's an addon. check the NSIS site 15:57:09 *** SrgSiler|sAFK is now known as SergentSiler 15:57:20 checking 15:58:04 http://nsis.sourceforge.net/StrContains 15:58:08 look right JohnTHaller? 15:58:12 http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Docs/AppendixE.html#E.3 15:58:24 that should work 15:58:33 hmm, that could work too ;) 15:58:36 ah use wordfind 15:58:38 * Gizmokid2005 gives it a shot. 15:58:48 always choose something within NSIS rather than an addon if possible 15:58:58 strcontains looks like it was in NSIS 15:59:20 wordfind has a example on how to do exactly what you want, too ;) 16:00:14 hmmm...this could be interesting. 16:02:11 WordFind it is then 16:02:15 thanks MaienM, JohnTHaller 16:02:50 yw 16:03:05 but then again, strcontain looks easier... 16:03:41 stick with wordfind 16:03:45 you'll thank me later 16:03:47 haha 16:03:48 ok 16:04:00 then you don't have to worry about it when we switch to NSIS Unicode 16:04:06 Oohh 16:04:10 sounds like a plan to me 16:04:16 all this for stupid java *sigh* 16:04:20 look at the examples Gizmokid2005, ctrl + f "Example (If found):" should give you one that explains what you want :P 16:04:41 Well, you could just use either the official location and fall back on local install. That would be easier. Most of our apps won't support a custom java location. 16:05:26 JohnTHaller: I know, but the problem is, if I don't check to see if the -vm switch in the .ini exists, and ignore it, I'm pretty much deprecating that feature of the app...I don't really want to do that. 16:05:54 *** excid3|eee has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:06:23 if someone is pointing to a specific VM, though, then why would they be using our launcher? 16:06:38 same way we don't support specific profiles or the profile manager in the FF command line. 16:06:44 true. 16:06:46 though we support it via an INI option 16:07:00 if you want to go the INI option route to preserve the functionality... that'd prob be easier 16:10:35 JohnTHaller: I don't want to add something else into the ini just for the vm...if I can get this Word Find to work, i'll just use it for now. 16:10:47 ok 16:11:33 wow JohnTHaller, cranking out the releases today 16:12:05 Yep. There are still some left though :) 16:17:10 I'm working on it :-P 16:17:40 iS PokerTH coming too? cause the old version isnt working for online games anymore cause it needs tha latest one :( 16:17:43 Hey, I wasn't critcizing, just saying you are releasing a lot :) 16:21:08 updated release: MinGW Portable Development Test 5 - http://portableapps.com/node/18601 16:21:56 RELEASE: Toucan 2.1.0: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-05-17_-_toucan_2.1.0 16:22:53 installed :) 16:29:57 Is there anyone here who speaks german? 16:30:21 Simeon: yes 16:30:41 how would you translate "wallpaper swapper"? 16:31:36 *** SteveLamerton (n=Steven@122.50.125.91.rb3.adsl.brightview.com) has joined #portableapps 16:31:36 SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;) 16:31:43 "Automatischer Hintergrund-Wechsler" i guess..it's pretty difficult imo 16:31:48 Hello again all, thanks JohnTHaller :) 16:32:27 Yes. Could you take a look at my translation of the Platform support page in a few minutes? Id like some feedback. 16:32:41 Simeon: sure:) 16:33:01 ello SteveLamerton 16:33:42 Hi SergentSiler 16:34:00 SteveLamerton: you're welcome :-) 16:34:15 Simeon: And yes, I'm gonna do PokerTH today, too 16:34:25 Cool!! 16:34:27 alright... I'm gonna get a bite. be back with the updates in a bit. 16:34:33 Bye JohnTHaller 16:34:33 Seeya 16:34:42 have fun JohnTHaller, I should have RSSOwl done by the time you get back :D 16:35:46 *** sar3th has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:37:25 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 16:39:04 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 16:39:36 pabot: uri? 16:40:27 LOL 16:40:37 palogbot, uri 16:40:37 http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-05-17#T16-40-37 16:40:40 :P 16:40:46 that or StatBot, uri 16:40:57 ty 16:52:04 RELEASE: http://purpler.deviantart.com/art/Google-Eyesaver-122803172 16:53:49 lol @ the comment :P 16:59:17 *** WastePotato has quit () 17:03:02 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 17:04:48 *** diib (n=dbdii@75.119.1.55) has joined #portableapps 17:05:02 *** diib has quit (Client Quit) 17:05:20 lol my compiled binary of firefox is 400kb smaller than the official one xD 17:10:04 haha :) 17:15:13 ZachThibeau: Clearly you have too much free time ;) 17:16:22 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("ganna go play with mah pokemanz") 17:26:37 Are you still here sar3th? 17:27:11 SteveLamerton: well that happens when I don't have a job at this time and I'm bored :P 17:27:20 after a long days work in trying to fnd a job 17:33:21 Fair enough :) 17:34:08 do I have a job yet? nope not yet :( stupid economy and job cuts are making it harder for me to find a job of any kind 17:34:29 Yeah, I can imagine :( Still I wish you luck for the future 17:34:40 thanks 17:39:05 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 17:39:30 Simeon: yes 17:41:06 sar3th: cool! could you take a look here : http://portableapps.com/de/support/portable_apps_suite and tell me what you thinkof my translation? 17:42:01 okay, will do as soon as i have some time :) 17:44:29 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 17:44:29 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 17:44:37 hola again 17:44:40 wb jth 17:45:04 Hello again JohnTHaller 17:45:55 Hi John! 17:46:45 Ok... more apps to release 17:46:56 O_O wow, nice 17:48:39 :-D 17:48:59 JohnTHaller: can I pick your brain a minute? I'm not following this for some reason 17:49:04 sure 17:49:21 I may do a quick PA.c installer/spec update. let more files be included in the Optional section 17:49:48 JohnTHaller: http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/d54deec56 which line in there is the one that actually appends the additional parameters to the launcher string? 17:50:10 144 17:50:53 ok, and what does 138 do? 17:51:57 copies paramters passed on the command line 17:52:45 k thanks JohnTHaller 17:53:00 I'm off now to get food, I'll finish up the launcher when I get back, hopefully not having to pick your mind again too :) 17:53:12 k 17:53:24 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 17:56:44 Hey John I have a question 17:57:45 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-67-189-254-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 17:57:46 gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!! 17:57:48 shoot 17:59:19 For the PA.c Installer, Why is all the language files used even though English is all that is choosen? 17:59:51 it copies em all there and then ditches em. don't include the source for the installer in your releases (it's not necessary) 18:00:06 ok 18:00:29 we're not with any of ours. it just takes up space. and you don't need it to compile it now... you just need the pa.c installer. 18:00:46 thanks 18:00:55 #SilerSpot 18:00:59 whoops. 18:01:11 Forgot /join :P 18:01:42 is it possible for the menu prerelease that you could put a progress bar in the uninstall gui? 18:02:34 *** SergentSiler_ (n=Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 18:03:03 *** SergentSiler has quit (Nick collision from services.) 18:03:14 *** SergentSiler_ is now known as SergentSiler 18:07:06 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 18:07:08 Espreon is a lazy person who is awesome... If you give him a bottle of quality white tea good things will happen to you! 18:09:11 gotta go - see you guys 18:09:46 *** Simeon has quit ("Leaving.") 18:15:08 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 18:18:04 *** Suiseiseki (n=desulove@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 18:18:04 Suiseiseki is desu 18:25:36 *** AppGuy has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 18:29:56 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 18:36:33 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 18:46:19 *** ptmb (n=PTMblogg@a213-22-151-37.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 18:46:19 ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/ 18:53:35 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 18:53:36 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 18:57:18 JohnTHaller: IfFileExists "$DRIVELETTER\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java\bin\" UsePortableVM NoVMFound <-- is that right? or is there another way to check for the java in the platform? 19:04:06 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 19:07:28 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 19:07:29 Whibo is a portableapps.com user 19:07:41 thatr work giz 19:08:08 JohnTHaller: awesome. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't another better way to do it. 19:08:57 *** Whibo has quit (Client Quit) 19:11:22 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 19:14:57 *** gluxon has quit ("Leaving.") 19:17:47 *** daBomb69 is now known as daBomb69|Not-Her 19:18:45 *** daBomb69|Not-Her is now known as Not-Here 19:19:24 *** Not-Here is now known as Failurew 19:19:36 *** Failurew is now known as Failure 19:21:19 *** andreasma (n=andi@p579C0EAC.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:22:54 *** Failure is now known as daBomb69|Here 19:25:56 *** daBomb69|Here is now known as daBomb69|Im-AWAY 19:27:55 *** SergentSiler is now known as FailureBot 19:28:05 *** daBomb69|Im-AWAY is now known as daBomb69-Fails 19:29:00 *** FailureBot is now known as SergentSiler 19:38:40 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 19:38:43 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 19:40:54 *** sar3th_ (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 19:41:24 *** sar3th has quit (Nick collision from services.) 19:41:27 *** sar3th_ is now known as sar3th 19:45:20 *** sar3th has quit (Client Quit) 19:50:46 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 19:51:37 JohnTHaller: We have a spammer http://portableapps.com/user/113866 I just deleted one of his posts 19:51:44 D: 19:53:57 Actually he has done a few in the past 19:54:47 banned, posts deleted 19:55:02 Cheers :) 19:57:22 *sigh* stupid spammers 20:08:47 Bye now all :) 20:09:01 bye SteveLamerton 20:09:20 *** SteveLamerton has quit ("Leaving.") 20:12:31 JohnTHaller: ${GetParameters} $0 <-- parameters from? 20:12:47 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:13:00 the ini? 20:15:10 http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/d54deec56 line 130 20:15:23 no...that must be command line 20:15:30 *** daBomb69-Fails has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:15:55 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 20:15:56 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 20:31:03 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=kvirc@clsm-74-47-119-108-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 20:31:25 *** Simeon (n=simeon@dslb-092-075-084-163.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 20:31:25 Simeon is a Developer at PortableApps.com 20:31:35 Hi all 20:32:05 hi Simeon 20:32:15 Is JohnTHaller here? 20:32:53 sup 20:33:48 did you see the error in the latest ClamWinPortable package? 20:34:05 what error 20:34:24 a config file in the Apps folder 20:34:44 yea 20:34:58 i'm gonna fix it with the revision that adds win7 support and the new installer 20:35:29 ok. I just installed it and remembered seeing a forum post about it and thought I'd ask if you saw it too. 20:35:30 *** daBomb69 has parted #portableapps () 20:36:23 Oh and btw I tried the new installer on a personal App and it worked ok. I also had the grey rectangle but havent yet checked if its related to the icon. 20:37:05 pelase check 20:37:11 i've only reproduced it with bad icons 20:37:28 I will 20:38:11 StrCpy $EXECSTRING `"$PROGRAMDIRECTORY\$PROGRAMEXECUTABLE" -vm $DRIVELETTER\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java\bin\` 20:38:17 does that look right JohnTHaller? 20:39:51 *** andreasma has quit ("Verlassend") 20:40:25 gotta go - brb 20:40:28 *** Simeon has quit ("Leaving.") 20:42:30 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 20:42:30 Whibo is a portableapps.com user 20:44:33 *** ptmb is now known as ptmb|away 20:45:58 *** ptmb|away has quit ("Leaving") 20:48:14 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 20:50:47 *** Simeon (n=simeon@dslb-088-067-134-134.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 20:50:47 Simeon is a Developer at PortableApps.com 20:51:00 I am back 20:51:52 JohnTHaller: I just checked the icon and it is a valid Icon with only the parts specified in the spec. I extracted it from the programm's exe using IcoFX. 20:52:44 *** JacobMastel (i=4b5fbab7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4e669099fdded72) has joined #portableapps 20:52:59 Hi all 20:53:32 hi jacob 20:54:36 Dead in the room? 20:54:58 john was here minutes ago but now silence spread... 20:55:07 Bummer 20:55:21 JacobMastel: it's been on/off 20:55:31 * JacobMastel is playing with a new FF extention...Split Browser 20:55:32 john is working on a lot of releases today 20:55:37 JacobMastel: I love that extension :) 20:55:40 Yeah I noticed 20:55:43 use it a lot when watching youtube and doing other thigs :D 20:55:45 *things 20:55:52 Simeon: send me the icon please 20:55:56 Yeah the mibbit window fits in there nicely 20:56:34 John: ok 20:56:40 JacobMastel: yep :D 20:56:43 and you can resize z:d 20:56:44 *:D 20:57:15 JohnTHaller: what icon? 20:57:40 I try doing it via IRC 20:58:18 *** JacobMastel has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20:58:23 *** JacobMastel (i=4b5fbab7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f39a74cf54a01431) has joined #portableapps 20:58:25 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 20:58:25 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 20:58:37 *** JacobMastel has quit (Client Quit) 20:58:43 *** Jacobm001 (i=4b5fbab7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ceacec8090096a2d) has joined #portableapps 20:58:54 Oops sorry 20:59:03 Mibbit doesn't like the split thing moving :P 20:59:08 I have an icon that causes the new installer to draw a grey rectangle around it. 20:59:37 How would that happen? 20:59:50 dunno 20:59:58 that why john wants it... 21:00:37 * Jacobm001 was wondering if there were any existing guesses 21:00:46 *** Jacobm001 is now known as JacobMastel 21:03:49 Simeon: send it to me again please 21:04:06 *** JacobMastel has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21:04:09 I uploaded it: http://nascent-project.org/simeon/appicon.ico 21:04:43 *** JacobMastel (n=Jacob@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 21:07:21 Simeon: It works for me unchanged from what you sent me. What OS are you on? 21:07:39 I am on kubuntu but i tried on Win XP SP3 21:07:56 Not sure how it works under Wine at the moment. 21:08:15 I'll try it again tomorrow - maybe it'll work then or I can figure somethng out... 21:08:29 What color depth is your display at? 21:08:38 dunno 21:09:04 have to reboot to check - but I'll keep it in mind 21:09:20 not sure that would affect it. just right click on your desktop and go into display properties 21:09:53 Im on Linux now - and i tried it on Windows 21:12:14 JohnTHaller: is this string right?: 21:12:14 StrCpy $EXECSTRING `"$PROGRAMDIRECTORY\$PROGRAMEXECUTABLE" -vm $DRIVELETTER\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java\bin\` 21:12:29 prob need quotes around the thing after -vm 21:12:41 ok, figured I'd check with you first. 21:12:42 thanks 21:12:46 I think I have it finalized 21:13:42 Simeon: I just checked it on XP and it works fine with that icon 21:13:43 *** sar3th has quit ("let's see if it still crashes...") 21:13:55 ok - maybe its my display or something 21:14:54 JohnTHaller: there's the finalized launcher, look at the highlighted lines (141-154), thats what I did for the VM. 21:14:56 http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/d5ee4b543 21:15:39 scratch that... it's color display. if you have it set to less than 32bit, it'll mess it up 21:16:24 ok. thanks for the info 21:17:17 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-67-189-254-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 21:17:18 gluxon is not dumb. SO don't mess with the Bighead!!! 21:20:16 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 21:21:43 I added a note to the spec 21:23:05 ok. gotta go - bye everyone 21:25:23 *** Simeon has quit ("Leaving.") 21:38:44 *** daBomb69 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:38:58 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 21:38:59 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 21:46:38 *** AppGuy (i=4a2e433f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b81a133b3a09ef1) has joined #portableapps 21:49:36 *** AppGuy has quit (Client Quit) 21:49:42 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:50:29 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 21:50:59 Guess not 21:55:31 daBomb69: ? 21:55:45 wrong window 22:06:04 *** AppGuy has quit ("Leaving") 22:11:57 *** powerjuce (n=powerjuc@unaffiliated/powerjuce) has joined #portableapps 22:11:58 powerjuce knows all 22:12:37 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 22:19:09 *** daBomb69 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:19:22 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 22:19:22 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 22:20:46 *** Espreon has quit ("Tengo que ir... 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SO don't mess with the Bighead!!! 23:40:55 *** powerjuce has quit ("peace out all") 23:43:40 *** pa_0886 (i=453b71b6@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a7eecf7a22bc5d13) has joined #portableapps 23:45:48 *** AppGuy has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 23:47:41 again lost the link, whats the link to get the portable apps application, to start up in the system tray, when the flash drive, is plugged into the flash drive 23:51:54 help 23:51:55 pa_0886: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 23:52:11 again lost the link, whats the link to get the portable apps application, to start up in the system tray, when the flash drive, is plugged into the flash drive 23:59:24 Is this the one you wanted? 23:59:25 http://www.moonvalley.com/products/rwavdc/enable.htm 23:59:43 Or did you want the installer for the suite?