00:01:06 pa_0886: Are you talking about the Autostarter John made? 00:01:44 where a window pops up and it launches the PortableApps.com Platform when a drive with PortableApps.com installed is plugged it? 00:01:48 *in (it) 00:02:30 http://portableapps.com/node/13770 00:09:10 *** JacobMastel is now known as JacobMastel-Away 00:22:01 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 00:37:46 *** SergentSiler_ (n=Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 00:38:21 *** SergentSiler has quit (Nick collision from services.) 00:38:57 *** SergentSiler_ is now known as SergentSiler 00:43:04 *** powerjuce (n=powerjuc@unaffiliated/powerjuce) has joined #portableapps 00:43:04 powerjuce knows all 00:43:30 *** powerjuce has quit (Client Quit) 00:46:22 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 00:46:26 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 00:49:18 *** gluxon has quit ("Leaving.") 00:52:13 *** KevinPorter (n=KevinPor@unaffiliated/KevinPorter) has joined #portableapps 01:09:48 *** sancas has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:15:56 *** SergentSiler_ (n=Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 01:16:06 *** SergentSiler has quit (Nick collision from services.) 01:16:16 *** SergentSiler_ is now known as SergentSiler 01:18:02 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:18:03 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 01:18:38 welcome back JohnTHaller 01:20:05 Revision 2 on Miranda IM for anyone that uses custom plugins: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-05-17_-_miranda_im_portable_0.7.19 01:20:32 *** SergentSiler_ (n=Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 01:21:07 *** SergentSiler has quit (Nick collision from services.) 01:21:16 *** SergentSiler_ is now known as SergentSiler 01:26:50 *** daBomb69 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:27:05 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 01:27:05 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 01:30:48 *** KevinPorter has quit ("Cheers") 01:32:55 *** pa_0886 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01:36:11 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 01:37:16 *** SergentSiler is now known as Neenermobil 01:37:51 *** Neenermobil is now known as SergentSiler 02:01:24 *** daBomb69 is now known as Random_Nick 02:01:50 *** JacobMastel-Away is now known as JacobMastel 02:02:06 *** JacobMastel has quit ("Leaving.") 02:07:31 *** Random_Nick has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:07:41 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 02:07:43 daBomb69 is the awesome person responsible for: Gnumeric Portable http://portableapps.com/node/18311 02:08:30 *** daBomb69 is now known as Random_Nick 02:09:20 *** Random_Nick is now known as daBomb69 02:19:00 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 02:19:00 Whibo is a portableapps.com user 02:19:10 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 02:26:03 *** Whibo has quit () 02:30:23 *** aan (i=an@cpe-98-154-1-242.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:30:27 hi 02:30:42 why do PortableApps cause the cursor to turn into hourglass for about 1.5 seconds? 02:30:55 or 02:30:58 thats the minimum 02:31:03 aan, you probally are just using a sorta slow computer 02:31:05 up to 4 seconds 02:31:07 No 02:31:13 I'm using a 4.0ghz quad-core 02:31:21 with 12 processes running 02:31:23 How much RAM? 02:31:28 4gb 02:31:36 ok 02:31:41 What OS? 02:31:46 nLite 02:31:49 130MB xp 02:31:56 it does this on every computer 02:32:00 and every portableapp 02:32:05 it's not my computer 02:32:11 What kind of Flash drive? 02:32:17 no flash drive 02:32:26 what r u running it from? 02:32:28 i dont use flash drives 02:32:33 from hard drive. 02:32:39 Ok them 02:32:45 *then 02:32:47 So, what follder 02:32:49 ?] 02:32:51 any folder. 02:33:00 Any folder, any portable app, any computer 02:33:07 what AV? 02:33:11 unless the portable app is made by anybody besides portableapps.com 02:33:13 in which case 02:33:15 theres no delays 02:33:25 what format are the other PAs? 02:33:26 AV = ? 02:33:32 AV=AntiVirus 02:33:38 lol antivirus 02:33:40 i'm not an idiot 02:33:42 i dont run that 02:34:01 U DON'T RUN AN ANTIVIRUS 02:34:03 antivirus just makes the computer slow 02:34:06 and does nothing 02:35:13 Well, aan let me send you an easily detectable by AV virus, then lets see about the 'does nothing' part; but, if ur not running an AV, and running from HDD, w/ 4gb ram, 4 gh processor 02:35:23 i dont get viruses 02:35:26 Do you run Antispyware? 02:35:31 of course not, i'm not a lamer 02:35:33 thats lamer stuff 02:35:51 if a antivirus was put on my computer 02:35:54 i'd format 02:36:26 And if one wasn't, the virus would do that formatting for you 02:36:31 Nope 02:37:12 I use a 100MB xp disk, I run 6 services 02:37:20 11 processes after boot 02:37:23 37MB ram usage 02:38:15 Also 02:38:18 antivirus does nothing 02:38:23 Orly? 02:38:40 Yes, check virustotal.com 02:38:54 commonly, only half of the AV's detect a given thing 02:39:54 i only use portablesoftware, so if I format C:\ and reinstall from Flash, I'm back to normal 100% in 10 minutes 02:40:12 mhmm 02:40:18 i do that once a week 02:40:37 And, y exactly do u format once a week? 02:40:46 its automated 02:40:49 it takes no effort 02:40:51 its nothing 02:40:54 its like running CCleaner 02:41:08 srsly tho, y would u want 2? 02:41:58 its no big deal 02:42:04 i just change 1 flag in boot.ini 02:42:09 and it reformats automated and reinstalls 02:42:17 nice 02:42:24 takes it's about 7 minutes 02:42:35 then 02:42:40 I have to run 1 .reg file 02:42:50 which sets my portable apps associations up 02:42:51 thats it. 02:43:11 oh, nice 02:43:27 BUT ANYWays! 02:43:47 portableapps launcher has something in the NSIS which, when you disable splash screen, causes a Wait Cursor for N seconds 02:43:54 PAs r prbly running slow cause of the wau the launcher works 02:44:06 well they open instantly 02:44:08 its just the cursor 02:44:25 Then, might just be WinXP 02:45:46 the app is running 02:45:51 it just sets a wait cursor 02:45:58 which does nothing 02:46:12 r u SURE the app's doing it, and not WinXP? 02:46:29 yep, i've been discussing it with my buddy, we're on AIM trying to fix it right now 02:46:32 it does it on both his computers 02:46:33 and both of mine 02:46:50 it does it on every portableapps.com app i've ever seen on any computer 02:47:02 some problem with the way they do the NSIS 02:49:09 well, ur the first person to report this problem if is is happening, so 02:49:28 *** daBomb69 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:50:26 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 02:50:27 ... 02:50:43 and XChat just crashed... sry bout that 02:57:00 *** daBomb69 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:03:09 i think people just didnt notice 03:03:20 people dont pay attention at all 03:03:57 Yesterday, i reported that an app wasn't using windows native fonts, the people on the channel argued for 30 minutes claiming it doesn't 03:04:08 so I had to take screenshots, zoom in, and do a side by side comparison to show what cleartype is 03:04:23 same thing, people cant see the Hourglass icon 03:06:16 btw dude... it may have something to do with you using a operating system that our apps aren't guarenteed to work on... 03:06:57 i dont know exactly what you stripped from xp to make it that small but... 03:07:46 anywho im off to bed >_> 03:14:43 *** pa_5412 (i=5ac08146@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2914613a079ea4c4) has joined #portableapps 03:35:22 aan: is it only on launch and with the splash disabled? 03:41:48 *** dragonmage (i=newdrago@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:41:49 dragonmage is a skinner, who mostly just ports other's skins to different apps. Beta tester, Feature Suggester, and pretty much an idea man. 03:44:17 aan: is it only on launch and with the splash disabled? 03:47:01 *** WastePotato has quit (Success) 03:52:12 *** mib_9kc4e4 (i=cb7e3806@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cb67d847da019186) has joined #portableapps 03:52:21 *** mib_4rz47r (i=cb7e3806@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ad4dbefd8281f8c3) has joined #portableapps 03:54:36 *** mib_ie3pl4 (i=cb7e3806@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ab7ad92f9e56d5ec) has joined #portableapps 03:56:33 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 03:56:33 Whibo is a portableapps.com user 03:57:31 *** mib_4rz47r has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03:57:31 *** mib_9kc4e4 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 04:02:46 *** pa_0886 (i=4a267ae2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-102edb37f994b43c) has joined #portableapps 04:02:52 *** sgettieddi (i=4b76fdf1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cb2940a14efec05d) has joined #portableapps 04:03:51 *** sgettieddi has quit (Client Quit) 04:04:40 Bensawsome: I'm stripping nothing 04:04:44 of any use 04:04:49 XP is that small with nothing removed 04:04:55 except total bullshit 04:05:07 like Outlook Express 04:06:36 aan: is it only on launch and with the splash disabled? 04:06:47 Yep 04:06:54 how are you launching? 04:07:01 run launcher 04:07:05 from? 04:07:09 explorer 04:07:11 *** sgettieddi (i=4b76fdf1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4307c924d401c08c) has joined #portableapps 04:07:28 no menu? 04:07:33 *** pa_0886 has quit (Client Quit) 04:07:43 like a launcher program? 04:07:57 doesnt matter where I launch it from 04:07:57 aan: the portableapps.com platform = menu 04:07:57 Help- getting "cannot write to .ini" what is wrong? 04:07:58 sgettieddi: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 04:08:05 no i've never used that 04:08:10 i use other launchers. 04:08:12 ASuite 04:08:25 I'll describe the problem. 04:08:28 I have WinMergePortable. 04:08:29 but are you launching it from that or from the actual portable exe in windows explorer? 04:08:43 aan: I read about your problem 04:08:45 Gizmokid: Launching it from explorer, or from that, or from cmd console 04:09:04 any method of launching. 04:09:07 Here's what happens 04:09:23 WITH DisableSplashScreen=false 04:09:46 Busy cursor for 1 second while splash screen shows, disappears, app opens 04:09:56 WITH DisableSplashScreen=true 04:10:04 Open opens instantly, busy cursor for 5 seconds 04:10:09 *** Whibo has quit () 04:10:28 the splash will hold the system for 2 seconds, that's built into the launcher...it shouldn't cause a busy cursor though. 04:10:45 does every pc you have tried this on run your "stripped" XP? 04:10:53 even non stripped XP's 04:11:01 i'm testing it in a VM 04:11:05 vanilla XP default fresh install 04:11:06 same thing 04:11:09 do you get the full hourglass, or just the hourglass under the cursor? 04:11:15 Partial hourglass 04:11:17 under cursor 04:11:32 that's typical...with about anything 04:11:36 as the system works...it happens. 04:11:43 However 04:11:49 with DisableSplashScreen=true 04:11:52 the app opens instantly 04:11:58 and the busy hourglass under cursor stays for 5 seconds 04:12:12 its not doing anything 04:12:21 the cpu as at 0%, the app is ready 04:12:26 i can click on stuff with the busy cursor 04:12:44 the busy cursor is not a busy cursor....it's a "Working in Background" cursor...and they vary highly 04:12:52 yet I'm unable to duplicate your issue with a fully loaded system 04:12:56 Ok, but the regular non-portableapps ones 04:12:58 open instantly too 04:13:00 with no busy cursor 04:13:15 what apps have you tried that this happens with? 04:13:24 every portableapps app 04:13:30 Like 04:13:32 a bunch of them 04:13:44 over the past year 04:14:15 i still use them, but my buddy wont use them cause of it 04:14:30 he created some crazy script to fix the hourglass 04:14:33 which runs in autohotkey 04:14:43 but I wont use that script 04:15:04 you can just change the hourglass cursor...what did he do in AHK to fix it? 04:15:16 detects if its portableapps program, and changes the cursor 04:15:17 heh 04:16:06 *** pa_5412 is now known as prapper 04:16:07 I'm not able to duplicate the issue...the times i get the busy in bg cursor, it's legit while the app is launching 04:16:17 did you disable splash? 04:16:20 yep. 04:16:26 try the regular program 04:16:31 Lets test WinMergePortable 04:16:45 *** prapper is now known as Guest52525 04:16:46 I have WinMergePortable and WinMerge regular 04:16:54 WinMerge regular == opens in 0 seconds cursor is ready 04:17:05 windows opens as fast as i can click 04:17:22 WinMergePortable == opens instantly, busy cursor counting 1...2...3...4....5.... 04:17:35 the program is ready, I am opening files during those 5 seconds 04:17:54 aan: you need to think of the launcher overhead...NSIS has to do file transactions in the background 04:17:58 you have to remember that. 04:18:11 you aren't just launching the application, you are actually launching a helper app also 04:18:14 do they happen while the app is running already? 04:18:34 my perception was that if the app is workable, the stuff has completed 04:18:43 if you've disabled services that are "BS" you could've inadvertently disabled something that NSIS depends on to move quickly. 04:18:52 aan: and it's possible, and probably true, depending on the app. 04:19:03 but NSIS works in a weird way, it's got quirks. 04:19:43 what could nsis possibly need service wise? 04:19:55 I run all the important services 04:19:58 who knows... 04:20:02 but every launcher runs a CRC check 04:20:24 aan: I know exactly what you mean 04:20:32 Guest52525: do you have this problem? 04:20:47 *** sgettieddi has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 04:20:58 aan: but I'm still unable to reproduce it. Your best bet is to post in the forums and see what you get 04:21:13 aan: yep. not that i regard it as too much of a problem :-) but it happens 04:21:39 aan: except if the splash is enabled 04:21:43 right 04:21:45 exactly 04:21:48 no problem with splash enabled 04:21:52 no hourglass 04:21:53 aan: yep 04:22:06 aan: yep. exactly 04:22:45 see Gizmokid, this is why I dont think its a "in the background" thing 04:22:55 like you said NSIS needing to complete a bunch of stuff 04:22:59 aan: it's impossible to be otherwise... 04:23:02 cause theres no issue with splash enabled 04:23:08 if you got a full hourglass and no cursor, then I'd agree 04:23:18 but a "Working in background" cursor only happens if that's the case. 04:23:29 why doesnt it happen if i turn on the splash then? 04:23:36 like I said, I can't reproduce it...post it in the forums. 04:23:43 couldn't tell you. 04:23:52 I've gone through the launcher sources for those and can't find anything that would cause it. 04:24:07 what about all the Sleeps' 04:24:13 sleep 100, sleep 1000, sleep 100 sleep 100 04:24:33 where? 04:24:51 in WinMergePortable.nsi 04:25:10 that would cause it in that app. I don't have winmerge installed...I was checking FF and a few others. 04:26:09 I most certainly am unable to produce it with my RSSOwl launcher 04:28:04 anywho, that's my best suggestion. I'm off to bed now. 04:28:09 thx 04:28:13 yw 04:59:11 *** mib_ie3pl4 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05:12:13 *** aan has quit () 05:58:33 *** Suiseiseki has quit () 06:03:12 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 06:17:27 *** upnPAD (n=upnPAD@124.176.75.125) has joined #portableapps 06:17:28 upnPAD wants official releases of Code::Blocks, Inkscape, and Chris Morgan Portable. His website is http://www.upnpad.com/. 06:51:54 *** Gizmokid2005 (n=Gizmokid@75-134-112-128.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 06:51:55 Gizmokid2005 is the in-house pidgin expert (usually), and is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/18626 AND RSSOwl Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/19271 07:08:04 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:50:35 *** Guest52525 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 07:56:58 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 07:57:29 good morning everyone! 07:59:11 *** Don_Miguel has quit ("Ex-Chat") 08:30:29 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 08:39:41 *** kaeos (n=Miranda@84.76.55.235) has joined #portableapps 08:51:15 *** kaeos has quit () 08:53:17 *** purple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:00:32 *** ChrisMorgan (i=724c27fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-81e802318c031ad6) has joined #portableapps 09:00:32 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer, and does BPBible, Inkscape, gVim, subcommander, and more 09:00:46 Hum. 09:00:58 hello ChrisMorgan :D 09:01:11 hello sar3th :D 09:01:23 Meow meow. 09:01:35 rmccue: that's not humming. 09:01:39 I told you to hum. 09:01:50 hello rmccue btw, didn't see ya coming in :o 09:01:57 Meow. Meow. Meow meow. MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW! 09:02:14 sar3th: Meow. :) 09:02:21 Question 1: will it work (using *.*.svg as the mask for Inkscape optional component files)? 09:02:21 I doubt it :-( 09:02:34 (*.la-ng.svg) 09:02:56 ChrisMorgan: Meow meow meow? (Will what work?) 09:03:24 ChrisMorgan: depending on where you need it.i guess it'll work if *.svg works, too 09:04:16 The thing is it *must* be *.*.svg - two sets of stars. 09:04:24 With DOS move it definitely won't work, I know that much. 09:07:15 Hmm... it'll use FindFirst and FindNext (NSIS functions) 09:07:21 s/functions/commands 09:10:45 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|away 09:18:11 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 09:25:04 *** rmccue has quit ("The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two"") 09:40:54 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:07:50 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=kvirc@clsm-74-47-119-108-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 10:16:52 *** ChrisMorgan|away is now known as ChrisMorgan 10:35:46 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("ganna go play with mah pokemanz") 10:48:55 *** kaeos (n=Miranda@84.76.55.235) has joined #portableapps 10:53:07 welcome back ChrisMorgan 10:53:24 hello once more sar3th 11:00:19 *** palogbot (n=palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 11:00:19 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test 2 is just about ready to go... now I've just got to rewrite just about all of the documentation :-) 11:24:51 Soooo much has changed! 11:25:35 ChrisMorgan: forgive my lack of knowledge, but what is your launcher test 2? 11:26:15 .pa chris's portableapps.com launcher test 11:26:17 .pa chris's portableapps.com launcher 11:26:22 ChrisMorgan: Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher 1.9.9.1 (2009-05-07) - http://portableapps.com/node/19188 11:26:23 ChrisMorgan: Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher 1.9.9.1 (2009-05-07) - http://portableapps.com/node/19188 11:26:28 yar, that. 11:26:40 That was the first release. It was weak ;-) 11:28:17 ah okay 11:28:25 ty, will have a look at it later :) 11:28:28 Last minute change: instead of using $VARIABLE now it uses %VARIABLE%. 11:28:42 got to go now, food awaits me ;) 11:28:49 bye 11:28:51 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 11:28:53 This is because now you can have %/VARIABLE% and %\\VARIABLE% for different path separators 11:28:58 bye sar3th! 11:29:08 Writing the documentation often takes longer than coding the app... 11:30:22 *** sar3th has quit ("NOM NOM NOM") 11:47:27 *** upnPAD has quit ("oi na") 12:06:23 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 12:08:09 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("mibbit.com: Get BPBible Portable! http://portableapps.com/BPBiblePortable") 12:09:53 *** Suiseiseki (n=desulove@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 12:09:54 Suiseiseki is desu 12:57:35 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 12:57:36 ZachThibeau is a developer of DVDStylerPortable at PortableApps.com and is also developing musicplay3000 the open-source media player inspired by foobar2000 12:58:37 *** pa_1719 (i=63e29f2c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-85e931acbecc05e1) has joined #portableapps 13:00:16 Your download design is very poor. 13:01:24 and very confusing 13:01:28 techincally it isn't our fault it's sourceforge.net's fault 13:01:53 sourceforge.net is out mirror network we use and the host not only us but other open-source projects 13:01:59 **our 13:02:45 I'll switch to other site 13:03:39 *** pa_1719 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 13:06:38 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 13:15:54 *** excid3 (n=Marj_Oli@dial-66-51-190-33.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 13:15:54 excid3 is sorry but your princess is in another castle 13:17:45 *** excid3 is now known as awayxcid3 13:40:28 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 13:40:49 *** purple (n=purple@91.143.222.110) has joined #portableapps 14:05:03 *** SilentWalker (n=Miranda@CPE0015f274609b-CM001ceab5de6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #portableapps 14:07:26 *** SilentWalker has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14:27:09 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 14:27:10 Whibo is a portableapps.com user 14:28:54 OHAI Whibo 14:29:00 how ru >_> 14:29:05 Hai 14:29:08 fine 14:29:23 ^_^ 14:29:32 and you? 14:29:44 i be good too ^_^ 14:29:52 :) 15:00:34 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-72-227-187-103.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 15:00:34 JohnTHaller is the founder and lead developer of PortableApps.com and "is kind of a big deal" 15:00:40 hola 15:01:00 hey JohnTHaller 15:01:04 *** awayxcid3 is now known as excid3 15:01:14 hey john ^_^ 15:03:21 JohnTHaller: do you have any current launchers that use WordFind? 15:06:25 i don't know, actually 15:06:38 you need to read the documentation and look at the examples. 15:06:48 and google helps. too 15:07:00 alright, what I'm here for 15:07:13 I have been...but for whatever reason I can't get it to function how it /should/ presumably function. 15:07:18 you guys know there's an issue with generating the header on certain PCs 15:07:24 for the installer I mean\ 15:08:24 so I'm thinking about updating the spec to have a PNG version of the app icon in two sizes. 16 and 32. this would allow us to generate the header on all PCs regardless of display settings, etc. and it would allow for better icon display on Vista/Win7 with large fonts and in Wine. 15:08:35 Only issue is it'll be a lil more work to create an app and package it 15:09:12 just adding the two icons? 15:10:11 yea... it's only a lil more work packaging wise 15:10:27 yeah, I don't think that's much to do to add the better support. it's not hard to create icons anyways... 15:10:39 16&32px or bit? 15:10:47 you can use icofx and just export tyhe 16 and 32px icons to PNGs 15:11:36 right 15:19:22 *** SteveLamerton (n=Steven@122.50.125.91.rb3.adsl.brightview.com) has joined #portableapps 15:19:22 SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;) 15:19:29 Hello all 15:19:38 hello SteveLamerton 15:19:40 Ok, tested it, and by using a 32px PNG to generate the header in the installer, you can use the installer packager on Wine 15:19:53 It'll fix the issue with icons being displayed in the menu in Wine, too 15:19:54 Hi Gizmokid2005 15:20:11 So I'm gonna post that as PAF and installer 0.91 15:20:16 JohnTHaller: k 15:20:22 hi SteveLamerton 15:20:22 good thing I haven't repackaged yet :) 15:20:31 Hi JohnTHaller 15:21:21 discussing an update to PAF and installer 15:21:49 gonna add 16 and 32px PNGs to AppInfo for the appicon. 16 will be used by the menu. 32 will be used to generate the installer header. solves all our icon issues. 15:22:42 Ahhh ok, is this to fix the ico issues? I just spotted a few Toucan issues have cropped up, they all seem quite minor though, which is good. 15:24:38 It allows the installer generator to properly create the icon header for the app's installer even in Wine. And it allows the icons to display properly in the Menu even on Vista/Win7 with large icons (without cutting off icons) and in Wine without icons showing up in 16 color mode. 15:25:05 Ahhh ok :) 15:25:54 howdy SteveLamerton 15:27:15 Hi ZachThibeau 15:27:27 how's toucan coming along? 15:27:57 There seem to be a few minor issues with the new release, nothing major yet, I was just about to start work fixing them :) 15:28:37 *** ZerFEr (n=zefer@217.194.116.85.dsl.manitu.net) has joined #portableapps 15:30:37 *** excid3 has quit ("Leaving.") 15:35:31 SteveLamerton: maybe you could work on a debug build or even add an option to allow a dump of the process in a text file to make it easier to report bugs :) 15:39:27 ZachThibeau: Yes, I was reading up on wxDebugReport the other day, I didnt even realise they had a class that did that sort of thing! 15:40:02 cool :) 15:41:38 Hmmm, does this link : http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=151265&ugn=portableapps&type=prdownload&mode=week&package_id=240220&release_id=0 work for anyone else or is the sourceforge stats server just rubbish? 15:42:18 ERROR 15:42:18 Error fetching statistics data: Connection to statistics server timed out - Please retry shortly 15:42:52 Ahhh, it is them then, wondered if it was my connection, been having a bit of trouble recently :( 15:44:24 Ahh JohnTHaller could I ask you to update the Toucan screenshot at some point, not urgent, someone pointed it out on the forum, thats all :) 15:48:21 *** Havvy (i=a9ccd474@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ce3860a18475a228) has joined #portableapps 15:48:29 *** Havvy has quit (Client Quit) 15:50:49 *** guest989 (n=chatzill@125.60.248.153) has joined #portableapps 15:52:10 *** guest989 has quit (Client Quit) 15:52:19 *** guest989 (n=chatzill@125.60.248.153) has joined #portableapps 15:52:54 *** guest989 has quit (Client Quit) 15:53:12 *** pa_3046 (i=7d3cf899@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e93f6be828331cb8) has joined #portableapps 15:53:36 *** pa_3046 has quit (Client Quit) 16:21:16 *** SteveLamerton has quit ("Leaving.") 16:32:40 *** Whibo has quit () 16:56:08 *** BjornH has quit ("Leaving") 17:05:37 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 17:21:33 *** SteveLamerton (n=Steven@122.50.125.91.rb3.adsl.brightview.com) has joined #portableapps 17:21:34 SteveLamerton is the developer of Toucan and a moderator on PortableApps.com as well as one of its longest serving members, so show some respect ;) 17:21:49 Hello again all :) 17:27:33 *** drag|away has quit ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )") 17:30:04 howdy SteveLamerton 17:31:27 Hi ZachThibeau 17:40:20 heads up for any devs with java apps... i'm releasing a test installer for java portable this week that won't require a local install 17:45:46 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 17:56:12 *** SteveLamerton has quit ("Leaving.") 18:05:51 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 18:14:01 *** sar3th|linux (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 18:14:26 *** sar3th has quit (""Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded."") 18:14:59 JohnTHaller: AWESOME! : 18:15:00 *:) 18:16:00 *** caralu74 (i=ba5240f5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2f818ab06c59974e) has joined #portableapps 18:17:11 hello, every body. some one know if there is a version of Toucan for Linux? 18:17:27 not yet 18:17:56 there are plans to port it to linux though 18:18:59 yup 18:19:19 I'm working with Steve Lamerton in the effort of porting it to linux 18:21:26 ohh it sound great. Thaks for the job. 18:21:58 there is a special date for toucan on linux? 18:22:35 nope 18:22:43 sorry 18:22:57 it will get done when it's done unfortunetly 18:23:13 where the both of us are in different time zones so we can't really converse properly 18:24:18 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SergentSiler 18:25:20 well it work for know under wine, so I will be waiting for it, and mail it to my friends and lists friends 18:27:41 awesome 18:31:00 well thanks for your answers. See you (Write you) 18:37:08 *** pa_8793 (i=5ac08146@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2464ff3249c490d1) has joined #portableapps 18:41:47 *** caralu74 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18:44:03 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 18:48:11 *** wwjoshdew (i=43b1a981@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-106ff1f42984c615) has joined #portableapps 18:49:15 whats up 18:50:21 [link removed due to copyright violation] 18:52:10 wwjoshdew: can we help you? 18:52:24 promoting your own site, which is explicitly illegal and violating copyright is not permitted. 18:57:13 that is why i can't login, right? 18:57:53 i go to [link removed due to copyright violation] for my portbale app(z) 18:57:58 portable 18:59:14 wwjoshdew: as we have said we do not promote other sites other than our own and what you are doing is in violation of our guidelines 18:59:37 *** kai_62656 (i=447640a9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-931ccc3b9217a665) has joined #portableapps 18:59:38 kai_62656 is here. He's developing LMarbles, Lincity-NG, WinHTTrack Website Copier, Gourmet, and NVDA Portable. 18:59:53 *** kai_62656 has parted #portableapps () 19:00:49 you don't have a star next to your name, so lets see you do something ZachThibeau 19:01:13 wwjoshdew: I may not but there are other people here that do. 19:01:48 [link removed due to copyright violation] 19:01:48 my suggestion is to stop and desist what you are doing please and thank you 19:03:01 ok. i can stop, but the links are still there 19:14:17 *** ptmb (n=PTMblogg@a213-22-151-37.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 19:14:18 ptmb is a blogger and wannabe programmer that uses Linux. He is an OpenSource fanatic too. You can see more about him at http://ptmblogger.co.cc/ 19:20:37 *** pa_8793 is now known as prapper 19:21:07 *** prapper is now known as Guest37191 19:22:54 does that mean someone's nicked my nick? :-) 19:23:10 ya 19:23:23 or you forgot to identify 19:23:28 ya that too 19:23:38 -NickServ- prapper is not registered. 19:23:42 it isnt registered o_0 19:24:01 do i have to register it? how do i do that? 19:24:03 try changing to it again Guest37191 19:24:12 /msg nickser help register 19:24:14 err 19:24:18 /msg nickserv help register 19:24:21 :) 19:24:30 ./nickserv register nick pass email 19:25:02 i thought you can only id with nick in their? 19:25:23