00:08:40 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 00:16:04 *** daBomb69 is now known as ChuckNorris 00:16:16 *** ChuckNorris has parted #portableapps ("A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows.") 00:32:05 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 00:44:00 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 00:57:26 *** daBomb69 is now known as daBomb|NOT-HERE 00:58:30 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:08:08 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 01:14:07 *** daBomb|NOT-HERE is now known as daBomb69 01:26:21 *** powerjuce (n=powerjuc@unaffiliated/powerjuce) has joined #portableapps 01:27:38 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 01:28:31 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 01:30:47 *** powerjuce is now known as powerjuce|away 01:40:18 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 01:48:05 *** daBomb69 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:50:02 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@66.43.242.42) has joined #portableapps 01:55:46 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:56:25 *** Suiseiseki (n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 01:57:32 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-59-35.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:57:57 RELEASE: Skype Portable 0.9 Launcher Test: http://portableapps.com/node/19416 01:58:11 Sweet :D 01:58:22 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 01:58:24 * daBomb69 high 5s JohnTHaller (Hi, btw) 01:58:30 Howdy 01:58:32 hi5 back 01:58:39 :) 01:58:52 I wanted to post a quick demo of the new installer features and figured Skype would be a good one 01:59:15 Ya :) 01:59:35 And, it'll please the hundreds of people wanting a Skype PA 02:00:10 Uhh... what are the new installer features though? 02:01:07 ability to copy files from a local install of software into a portable app... so you can portablize stuff that we don't yet have permission to package 02:01:15 Oh, nice :) 02:01:38 ability to download files from online and copy them into apps or extract files from ZIPs and many installers 02:01:59 wow, thats rly cool :) 02:02:15 Jw, can it extract from .exe files? 02:03:24 depends on the installer. but yeah 02:03:29 cool :) 02:03:32 it automatically bundles and uses 7zip 02:03:38 nice 02:03:44 all no code required of course. just make the right INI entries 02:03:59 * daBomb69 <3 this new installer 02:04:03 ygiulh'{KL: 02:04:09 oh shoot sry ghuys <_< 02:04:10 This is 0.91 installer, right? 02:04:18 hey JohnTHaller 02:04:23 Bensawsome, engrish plz :P 02:04:28 yeah 0.91 02:04:29 freakin wasp got in the house somehow and landed on my keyboard 02:04:30 hi Mir 02:04:41 do you know if VLC portable suppoers TV tuners? 02:04:49 In case you missed it... Skype Portable 0.9 Launcher Test: http://portableapps.com/node/19416 02:04:53 just curious 02:04:55 o_0 02:05:07 JohnTHaller made by.... you/offical people?! :D 02:05:07 Mir: I don't think it does anything tv-related, no 02:05:09 JohnTHaller: i log so i know 02:05:31 9.9.0 seems to get the audio for my TV tuner but no video 02:05:35 Bensawsome: It's just a dead basic launcher that demos the installer's new abilities 02:05:49 it grabs your local Skype install and copies it in automatically 02:05:52 so i am trying some FOSS mediacenter alternitive from sourceforge 02:05:53 JohnTHaller, does it actually work as a PA? 02:06:00 yup 02:06:07 yay :) 02:06:13 * Mir doesnt use SKYPE 02:06:17 no one to call 02:06:19 ah ok JohnTHaller cool :) 02:06:39 *** dbdii407 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:06:44 It'll show in the current pa.c menu without the skpe icon but will show it in 1.6 pr 1 02:11:53 Anyone know where that one page on PA.c is that shows the currant prereleases or whatever it was? 02:12:53 http://portableapps.com/development is the dev hub. click test releases there 02:13:09 Thanks 02:13:31 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 02:15:33 JohnTHaller, jw, with the splash screen thing, when the RT says that an app is ready for PR, does the app's dev need to make the final splash screen, or does PA.c have someone who does that? 02:16:09 i do it right now 02:16:21 Oh, ok 02:21:14 *** Whibo has quit () 02:24:14 JohnTHaller, on the test release page, are the comments supposed to be in link format like http://portableapps.com/development/test#comment-117430 or in boxyish format like http://portableapps.com/development/test#comment-117701 ? 02:24:48 dunno actually 02:25:10 Oh. Which would you/other mods prefer? 02:27:19 i'm not in charge of the page, so i don't know. do whatever most others do 02:27:34 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:27:50 * daBomb69 rly h8ts peer 02:28:39 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-59-35.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:28:50 sry crashed 02:29:30 wb :) 02:32:07 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.241.176) has joined #portableapps 02:37:20 *** powerjuce|away has quit ("peace out all") 02:38:32 *** ChrisMorgan (i=cb2d06b9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-59082de3a2aeac6a) has joined #portableapps 02:38:33 ChrisMorgan is 02:38:38 Awesome 02:39:23 no he just IS 02:39:29 thats how epic he is ;) 02:39:51 lol 02:40:15 *** ChrisMorgan42 (i=cb2d06b9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8c68fabed2762206) has joined #portableapps 02:40:41 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Client Quit) 02:41:02 *** ChrisMorgan42 is now known as ChrisMorgan 02:41:10 Yeah, ChrisMorgan just is ;-) 02:41:28 JohnTHaller: are you available for some questions and discussion about the installer and launcher? 02:42:26 sup 02:42:31 Firstly the installer. Inkscape has its langauge files all over the place, generally in the form *-lang.svg, but some other things as well - the INI moving thing just won't work at all (you've also got to leave in *-en.svg), so can it stay using the InkscapePortableOptional1 directory? 02:42:43 It uses them for e.g. tutorial files. 02:43:04 That directory will be killed by the installer, I believe 02:43:24 Hmm... I really can't release another version of it until I can just use Optional1. 02:43:28 And remember you don't need to get every language file. Just the big ones that make the size difference 02:43:45 That's the problem - most of the things /are/ comparatively big. 02:43:59 what's the size of inkscape with/without the additional languages? 02:44:11 Umm... look at the PR1 page :P 02:44:18 link 02:44:25 .def inkscape 02:44:25 ChrisMorgan: Sorry, but I don't know about inkscape 02:44:27 ChrisMorgan: Database error occurred 02:44:36 ARGH! 02:44:39 when did pabot get back? 02:44:51 .pa Inkscape Portable 0.46 Pre-Release 1 02:45:10 it's faster to just click myself 02:45:37 so why can't you use the INI entries? how many files are there? 02:45:46 .g Inkscape Portable 0.49 Pre Release 1 site:portableapps.com 02:45:47 daBomb69: No results found for 'Inkscape Portable 0.49 Pre Release 1 site:portableapps.com'. 02:45:48 daBomb69: No results found for 'Inkscape Portable 0.49 Pre Release 1 site:portableapps.com'. 02:45:52 Hmm... this machine only has USB 1.1, so even now that I've opened the installer, I've typed all this and it's only 70% done verifying files :P 02:46:04 can we please work and not play with the stupid bot guys 02:46:10 daBomb69: 0.46... 02:46:14 Sorry 02:46:16 Oh 02:46:22 65.2 -> 110.9 02:46:23 MB 02:46:27 ChrisMorgan: I got that 02:46:36 how many files are there that should be optional? 02:46:44 45.7MB difference... didn't realise there was so much... 02:46:55 checking... 02:47:13 http://portableapps.com/node/17707 02:47:13 Currently 393 files in 242 folders... 02:47:45 So how do you separate them out now? 02:47:54 I did it manually. 02:48:01 dir /s *-*.svg mainly... 02:48:06 ouch 02:48:22 App\Inkscape\lib\locale is 220 files, 11.2MB, and can be completely optional. 02:48:39 can you do that and transform the listing into into text and then do a search replace to make the INI file entries? 02:48:58 App\Inkscape\locale is 61 files, 10.9MB, and can also be completely optional 02:49:38 *** alpha1beta (n=michael@unaffiliated/alpha1beta) has joined #portableapps 02:49:43 *** GizmoBot has parted #portableapps () 02:49:47 hey guys 02:49:51 Hmm... 02:50:07 JohnTHaller: OK, I'm doing a listing now... 02:50:08 anyone check out Google Wave yet? 02:50:09 ChrisMorgan: I just updated the spec... I forgot that entry. 02:50:18 Which entry? 02:50:57 alpha1beta, Google what? 02:51:09 The optional listings for directories and files (OptionalDirectory1 and OptionalFile1) can go from 1 to 2,147,483,648 I believe. 02:51:17 Google Wave, search it, but lets keep the main room clear, they're busy 02:51:18 btw JohnTHaller I noticed an error in the spec, the DoubleExtract thing mentions a .zip file as both test.zip and data.zip 02:51:26 Ah good then. 02:51:42 In which case it is at the very least... possible... if not very neat :P 02:52:15 got it. fixed. 02:52:24 Thanks :-) 02:52:25 Try to combine things into directories and wildcards as much as possible. 02:52:34 OK then, I'll just simplify the masks as much as possible. 02:52:42 The goal is so that you don't have to manyally do anything for each new release. 02:53:26 @JohnTHaller and that is just plain awesome :D 02:53:38 Good :-) 02:55:04 If you're interested to see what the files are, here (relative to App\Inkscape, lib\locale\* and locale\* removed): http://mibbit.com/pb/sXobMS 02:55:08 I had a habit of messing up a file or two trying to manually compile the Optional1 sections for a couple apps. This takes care of it. Most apps keep em in 1 or 2 directories. Inkscape will prob be tougher. Just try and get most. 02:55:36 I'll get them all :-) 02:55:58 Hmm... maybe it would be easier to be able to exclude files from optional1 as well 02:56:04 alpha1beta: glad you like it 02:56:05 I think I'll be able to do things as e.g. *.ca.svg and *-ca.svg, for each langauge, which should get them all. 02:56:21 Yeah, it would be, then we could just have *.*.svg and exclude *.en.svg 02:56:26 JohnTHaller if it's open source I like it, if it works well I love it :D 02:56:32 Just keep in mind that it won't go into directories. It's just one level 02:56:42 I was just about to ask about that... 02:56:49 *\*.*.svg wouldn't work? 02:57:04 Nope. It's files in a single directory. 02:57:14 At least then you could do App\Inkscape\share\tutorials\*.*.svg 02:57:27 path\path\path\ and then filename. and only filename can do wildcards 02:57:35 ChrisMorgan: yeah, that would work 02:57:36 OK 02:58:01 It's really not that complex. As a matter of fact, all the SVG files I missed with my first DT, it was raised by someone, which is why I then went and found them all. 02:58:24 OK then, PR2 should come out soon if I happen to get round to polishing the last changes to the launcher 02:58:44 JohnTHaller: will a Java Portable installer be coming soon now that we've got PAI 0.91? 02:58:56 *** sancas has quit ("Saliendo") 02:58:58 relatively soon, yes. 02:59:04 ah ;-) 02:59:05 i just need to finish the plugin side of the installer 02:59:18 the DoubleExtract feature is written specifically for Java and Google Chrome 02:59:21 Good-o 02:59:49 What about .tar.gz things, I presume they'd need DoubleExtract as well, if you're using 7-Zip? 03:00:59 *** ChrisMorgan42 (i=cb2d06b9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9c9fda08adfbf65d) has joined #portableapps 03:02:05 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.241.176) has joined #portableapps 03:02:09 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:02:17 IE crashed :-( 03:02:24 thats ie for ya ;) 03:02:27 DUH! 03:02:50 More to the point, that's IE6SP1 on Windows 98 for you. IE6SR1 isn't as bad, but doesn't run on W98 03:03:38 JohnTHaller: will Java be going in e.g. CommonFiles\Java\1.6.0 at some stage as I'm guessing from your hints? 03:03:46 lol dl ffpe :P 03:04:23 Bensawsome: can't run Firefox 3 on Windows 98, and don't feel like running Firefox 1.0.8 :P 03:04:30 ... which I have got with me ... 03:04:47 ChrisMorgan42 no 2.0? 03:04:49 why the heck are you on win 98? 03:04:54 err 2.x 03:04:56 Too slow, Bensawsome 03:05:07 ChrisMorgan42: I think tar.gz will need double 03:05:10 alpha1beta: because that's what I'm stuck with in the library here. 03:05:21 eww, my sympathies man 03:05:28 java will be in commonfiles\java. we won't be doing multiple vbersions 03:05:44 Nonfunctional Google Chrome PA.c Installer download example: http://portableapps.com/node/19307#comment-119879 03:05:52 yeah, that's what I guessed. I've not been able to make "7zG.exe x" work like "tar -xz" (both at once) 03:06:00 Nonfuntional... :s :P 03:06:05 nicely said ;-) 03:06:25 One more thing (I think), have you got your launcher to a stage where I could look at it? 03:06:55 JohnTHaller: OK, I thought I'd heard you say that multiple Java versions would be supported, was I wrong, or has that idea just been dropped? 03:07:28 .ask MaienM How's your BPBible Dutch translation going? 03:07:30 OperationalError: (2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061)") (source unknown) 03:07:33 that's not going to work, is it... 03:07:35 yar. 03:07:54 Grr. 03:07:58 *** daBomb69 has quit ("Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)") 03:08:33 i have always said we would only do one java version 03:08:35 *** Bensawsome is now known as ^o^ 03:08:44 my launcher isn't ready yet 03:08:59 :o And I can't send a memo with MemoServ! "MaienM does not wish to receive memos." ARGH! 03:09:17 OK. I'll continue on with CPALT then :-) 03:09:18 *** ^o^ is now known as Bensawsome 03:09:38 More complete langauge support is something I've been giving a lot of thought to, but I think I'll wait till we're unified. 03:10:04 ChrisMorgan42: Don't put too much time in it. Otherwise we'll have some frustrated people switching from one to the other when we go official. 03:10:24 In some ways, yours is further along. It may even be easier to shoehorn my advanceds stuff into yours 03:10:26 *** alpha1beta has parted #portableapps () 03:10:40 i can't type tonight... i think i need sleep. long week of family illnesses. 03:10:55 That could well be. What advanced stuff does yours have, anything other than services? 03:11:22 I've used it for GanttProject and Sweet Home 3D Portable (both Java), but nothing else yet. Bruce is using it for more than one thing, but only privately I think 03:11:30 JohnTHaller: swine flu? :P 03:11:41 OK, goodnight then :-) 03:11:52 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:12:10 whew, he's serious... normally he just parts but stays online :P 03:12:11 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-59-35.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:12:20 No, just a crash then... 03:12:22 kidney failure and possible heart attack 03:12:28 :-( 03:12:34 VERY bad few weeks 03:12:37 That's not good. 03:13:04 Really, Java apps are great for making portable. Settings will normally be just add -Duser.home="%DATADIR%\settings". 03:13:27 The problem with them is checking if they're running: javaw.exe. 03:13:36 yeah. i may have the platform allow that directly for JARs 03:13:58 alright... gnight all. more tomorrow 03:14:07 Sweet Home 3D uses java.util.prefs.Preferences, which stores in the registry, HKCU\Software\JavaSoft\prefs 03:14:17 ew 03:14:22 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 03:19:15 *** me (i=18a44109@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-54aa0eec48a0d527) has joined #portableapps 03:19:37 anyone here? 03:19:40 *** sancas has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:19:43 *** me is now known as Guest59268 03:19:56 ?? 03:20:37 Guest59268: I'm here 03:20:41 Can we help you? 03:21:17 (btw, you got renamed Guest59268 because someone's registered the nick "me" so it'll force change if they don't log in. Feel free to try another nick.) 03:22:31 is it possible to use a regular program and make it work in my portable apps menu so i can use it on another computer without actually installing the program on that computer? 03:23:22 It may or may not be. Unless you do some work to make it properly portable, it won't be in the PortableApps.com Format, and the vast majority of apps won't be (at least completely) portable. 03:23:44 ok 03:23:47 thank you 03:23:56 However, if you just want the app to appear in the PortableApps.com Menu, you can copy it so that it's in X:\PortableApps\AppName\app.exe 03:24:12 If the executable is one subdirectory down it'll be included in the menu. 03:24:39 ok...illtry that 03:24:50 What's the app? 03:25:17 Oh yeah, it may also be worth while searching at http://portableapps.com/search 03:25:36 it isnt an app...it's called "Memorex exPressit" 03:25:40 And also, it or a similar program may be at http://portableapps.com/development/test 03:25:42 What is it? 03:26:57 it's a label maker tha i'm using to label my copies of the office but my printer doesnt have any ink so i have to print them elsewhere 03:27:02 An app is a program... there's no difference really. 03:27:25 Hmm... it sounds like it's unlikely to save its settings, and may not work on a USB disk. 03:27:27 ohh 03:27:44 ok 03:27:47 But it may be worthwhile trying - it may do what you want 03:27:54 Don't let me discourage you :-) 03:27:57 hmmm Guest59268 does it have an option to print to a pdf or something? 03:28:03 there's no harm in trying 03:28:19 cause if you can export it as a pdf. then you can just take the pdf to another comp :D 03:28:38 maybe..i had't thought of that 03:28:46 :) 03:28:52 thanks 03:29:01 If the printer installs as a normal printer that's worthwhile trying 03:31:18 OK, I've got to go now, end of lunch time. 03:31:24 Bye Guest59268, everyone else! 03:31:30 bye 03:31:32 cya 03:31:39 *** ChrisMorgan42 has quit ("mibbit.com: Get BPBible Portable! http://portableapps.com/BPBiblePortable") 03:31:40 and im about to go to bed 03:31:50 ok lol 03:31:56 night 03:32:08 *** Guest59268 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03:36:42 *** pa_8736 (i=18a44109@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-31496c8dbd3c6de3) has joined #portableapps 03:40:54 *** raremold2010 (n=Owner@cpe-24-164-65-9.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:42:02 *** raremold2010 has parted #portableapps () 03:42:10 *** raremold2010 (n=Owner@cpe-24-164-65-9.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:42:28 *** raremold2010 has parted #portableapps () 03:42:29 *** raremold2010 (n=Owner@cpe-24-164-65-9.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:42:42 *** WastePotato has quit (Connection timed out) 03:43:03 *** pa_8736 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03:43:25 *** Bensawsome is now known as RickAstley 03:44:07 *** RickAstley is now known as Bensawsome 03:44:20 why change your name? 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06:38:54 pa_5478? 06:39:53 ??? 06:40:46 Can not fined the wizard to add more text languages 06:40:57 on what app? 06:41:12 or are you trying to for the app suit? 06:41:15 Writer 06:42:31 which one?...the open office or the AbiWord? 06:43:10 Open Office Writer 3.0.1 06:43:16 Portable 06:44:01 Buid 9379 06:44:06 i have to download it first...i dont really do word prossecing off of my flashdrive 06:44:45 to download what? 06:44:55 the writer 06:45:36 i have to download it...i assume that you have it correct? 06:45:46 Help say 1.In OpenOffice.org software, you can choose File - Wizards - Install new dictionaries to open a Writer document which helps you to install more languages. 06:45:57 But is is not there! 06:47:00 I have downloaded it today 06:47:01 are you looking in the folders or in the app....like i said i dont have much experience with open office 06:48:21 In File _Wizards mus be the Languege one, but it is not there! 06:48:52 then i'd try just making one 06:49:01 is the parent folder there? 06:49:08 ? 06:49:42 so you are looking in that actual app 06:51:08 Yes. I have opend Writer and trying to add Russian/ At FIle menue are wizars and it muct be the wizard for extra lang but it is not there 06:51:47 *** Ikhwan (i=cb525b65@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-50b9784b524a3234) has joined #portableapps 06:51:59 I guess they just have lost it. 06:52:14 then my best guess is that OpenOffice hasn't put that feature in the portable version 06:52:20 yet 06:52:21 help 06:52:27 what's up? 06:53:02 how to uninstall portableapps from my flash drive 06:53:10 No as far as I remember it was in previouse one. 06:53:27 idk then pa_5478 06:54:13 open the portable apps menu....click "explore".. 06:54:24 then 06:54:27 *** pa_5478 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06:54:36 there is a folder marked "portable apps" 06:54:40 click it once 06:55:02 hit the "delete" key on your keyboard 06:56:03 then somewhere else in the folder there is an exe. file called "StartPortableApps"...do the same thing 06:56:43 and if you want you can delete the file called "Autorun" which will do nothing without the portable apps command 06:57:01 does that help? 06:58:42 Ikhwan? 06:59:09 what about the document, video and picture?? 06:59:19 do i have to delete it to 06:59:24 no 06:59:29 those can stay 06:59:42 anything you want to keep do not delete 06:59:53 it won't affect anything??? 07:00:01 not at all 07:01:03 if you have deleted the "PortableApps" folder then you have deleted the app suit and all of the apps that came with it and thats all you have to really get rid of if you dont want the portable apps 07:01:54 but if you dont mind my asking...why do you want to get rid of it? 07:01:56 alright 07:02:47 b'cause i need more space to use in my flash drive 07:03:05 well how many apps did you have on it? 07:03:34 not much 07:03:59 oh...b/c one app can take up a lot of space....such as GIMP 07:04:32 can you give your email so that i can ask you again about the portableapps in the future 07:04:54 sure.....is AIM ok? 07:05:19 preacherskiddd@aim.com 07:06:00 where you from 07:06:09 here...why? 07:06:30 i mean what country 07:06:35 usa 07:06:40 u? 07:06:44 ohhhh i see 07:06:49 i'm just asking 07:06:55 you? 07:07:04 Malaysia 07:07:18 where is that? 07:07:57 near singapore 07:08:29 oh.... 07:08:40 i wiki searched it..lol 07:09:00 but it is a bigger country than singapore 07:09:11 by a lot? 07:09:20 yup 07:09:47 ok i have get rid all the file 07:09:55 thank you for helping me 07:10:02 your welcome 07:10:07 :) 07:11:08 :D 07:11:58 *** Ikhwan has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 07:12:51 *** aif53 (i=cb525b65@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ac161106671bf51) has joined #portableapps 07:14:01 *** aif53 has quit (Client Quit) 07:21:46 *** raremold2010 has parted #portableapps () 08:23:28 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 08:46:47 *** dzjepp has quit () 08:47:18 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 09:29:11 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 09:30:41 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 10:19:25 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 11:49:20 *** Suiseiseki (n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 12:28:19 *** upnPAD has quit ("oi na") 12:55:50 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 13:11:27 *** MaienM|Sleep has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:12:51 *** ZachThibL (n=Zacht@5ED09E1C.cable.ziggo.nl) has joined #portableapps 13:14:51 *** MaienM (n=MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 13:17:59 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Gone 13:27:01 *** ZachT|AFK has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:37:59 *** sar3th has quit (""Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded."") 13:51:00 *** Sui_Dorimu (i=desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 13:54:52 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:02:27 *** ZachThibL has quit ("ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net") 14:02:27 *** MaienM|Gone has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:18:07 *** ZachT|AFK (n=Zacht@5ED09E1C.cable.ziggo.nl) has joined #portableapps 14:18:17 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as Guest52282 14:31:47 *** MaienM (n=MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 14:32:54 *** ZerFEr (n=zefer@217.194.116.85.dsl.manitu.net) has joined #portableapps 14:37:04 *** andreasma (n=andi@p3E9D2721.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 14:37:17 hi 14:48:16 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-59-35.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 14:48:57 hola 14:53:37 howdy JohnTHaller 14:53:47 how goes it 14:54:34 JohnTHaller, it went well. I had to create a presentation for the Linuxtag 2009 in Berlin at the end of June. 14:55:50 how's it coming? 14:57:56 I applied for a slot and get one at Friday morning 14:58:41 I know the chairwomen of the slot ;-) 14:59:08 nice 14:59:42 But I have only 30 minutes to present OOoP. 15:01:22 I'm gonna be posting the first test of Java Portable in a few days, if it helps. 15:01:56 A new way to get Java Portable? 15:02:43 Yeah. It doesn't require a local install or admin rights. It downloads the current Java from Sun and installs it on your portable drive. I had to finish the installer 0.91's download abilities first. 15:03:18 If you post it before the 25th of June, I try to speak about it in my presentation. 15:04:08 Oh it'll be up before then 15:04:18 fine ;-) 15:45:59 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 16:11:50 *** ZachThibeau (n=zachthib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 17:10:33 *** Sui_Dorimu is now known as Suiseiseki 17:45:40 *** Jeremified (n=Jerforce@ip24-255-26-228.tc.ph.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 18:07:25 *** drag|away has quit ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )") 18:29:51 *** andreasma has quit ("Verlassend") 18:36:38 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SrgSiler|sAFK 18:52:44 *** abc528 (n=abc528@lns-bzn-31-82-252-246-93.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #portableapps 18:55:09 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 19:08:20 *** dbdii407 (n=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 19:09:05 JohnTHaller, I love the idea of the twitter account and the RSS updates with it. I can receive PA updates to my phone. :) 19:09:27 that's what it's there for :-) 19:09:49 * dbdii407 remembers when he felt his phone vibrating in the middle of second hour. O.o 19:10:02 Oh look! PortableApps.com Update. :P 19:10:13 lol 19:10:15 we still have to promote it. that will be part of the new 'community' section i'm working with my designer on. it'll bring the forums, twitter, facebook, rss, blogs, and website buttons together 19:11:36 kewl ^_^ 19:20:13 What. 19:21:13 what john just said duh :P 19:25:40 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 19:31:58 *** AppGuy has quit ("Leaving") 19:37:17 *** markomlm (n=chatzill@pD9554964.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:37:50 *** Bjorn_H (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 19:37:53 Hello @all 19:38:00 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=kvirc@clsm-74-46-42-37-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) has joined #portableapps 19:38:12 Ping JohnTHaller 19:38:18 hi 19:38:26 JohnTHaller: :-) 19:38:56 JohnTHaller: No OOo Portable issues for 3.1 PR1 at the moment. 19:38:58 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Client Quit) 19:39:26 Good to hear. You see the 0.91 installer release? Nothing that will affect OO.o 3.1 except the addition of the PNG icons that I can see, anwyay. 19:41:01 JohnTHaller: I see it. Could You update the packages when You'll signing it? 19:42:34 Sure thing. It'll only take me a few minutes. 19:42:44 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 19:43:03 JohnTHaller:Great. I'm wondering if I should create the Plugins, cause the Installer don't support it at the moment right? 19:43:05 Give the installer a try when you get a chance. I'm pretty proud of the new features. 19:43:12 What plugins? 19:43:22 Imagepacke at first 19:43:36 perhaps languagepacks 19:44:12 but I believe there is no really need for the langpacks 19:44:33 We don't need language packs. Every language we support we'll have a download for. OO.o doesn't even link to language packs from their download page. 19:45:14 right. there was nearly no feedback for the langpacks of 3.0.1 19:45:16 Hold off on plugins atm. I'm gonna finish plugin support in the installer early next week. It'll be entirely INI driven like with apps. And it'll let us do... wait for it... Java Portable. 19:45:34 :-) 19:46:10 BTW: The old imagepack for 3.0.1 works for the 3.1.0 too :-) 19:46:26 I built in download and 7zip extraction support to the installer. So it can download Java and install it portably without us needing to package Java in the installer or needing to pull it from a local install :-) 19:46:49 The Installer has simplified my life for OpenOffice.org Portable 3.1 a lot! 19:47:11 JohnTHaller:Great! 19:47:16 That's the goal. We're at the point now where most apps won't need an update between versions other than changing the version in appinfo.ini :-) 19:47:49 And I fixed the issues with header generation, etc. And the new PNG icons mean the menu can show things right on 120dpi Windows and in Wine. 19:48:09 Wahoo! 19:48:27 If at the end of next week or so everyone is happy with the format and installer, I'm gonna re-release it as 1.0 and start pushing 3rd parties :-) 19:49:11 win 19:49:16 the download, extraction and local copy stuff were the last things i wanted to get in. along with unlimited entries (well 2 million is the technical limit) for optional component stuff in case we have any apps with lots of different locale files... turns out Inkscape is one. 19:49:44 i'd often mess up manually movuing stuff to Optional1, so this removes all of those issues. 19:50:10 Go for it! :-) I'll finish the next beta for the PortableApps.com Manager next week too. 19:50:35 Any news from SF for the permisson bug? 19:50:39 :D 19:51:36 * markomlm has still no admin rights on the web frontend :-( 19:51:39 Cool. I'll review the translations when you post. I think we can simplify and customize the interface a bit and use some of the built in translations for certain elements. We'll do that and then make a push for translations. 19:51:48 markomlm: It's still busted, so I set you as a project admin 19:52:46 And you were right about inetc over nsisdl. I'm using inetc in the PA.c installer now, too. 19:53:38 JohnTHaller:THX. This was the result of month of testing and many trial error tests ... 19:54:02 I'll drop the Modern Gui thing too. Its very unstable 19:54:47 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:54:49 Dropboxes (a new feature of the new Beta) and many Dialogs don't work 19:55:06 Good idea. Too bad because a better look would be nice, but it would have issues. 19:55:34 We could go the SkinCrafter route. It's freeware and not open source, but it wouldn't be the main app and it wouldn't depend on it. 19:57:58 Could be a possible solution. I'll have a little look at it. But functionality and stability first :-) thats what I have learned from You. Sometimes its hard to except it, but its the better way. 19:58:32 Indeed. I'm actually trying out skincrafter now. 19:59:42 actually nevermind... it adds over 3MB to the installer :-( 19:59:57 :-( 20:01:10 o_0 20:01:13 *** SrgSiler|sAFK is now known as SergentSiler 20:01:15 wow.... 20:01:55 I've used a customized header.exe for the new Updater. So we will stay compatible with the normal NSIS. It looks and fits better 20:02:05 and works stable 20:02:21 cool. i may have my designer do one for the final. 20:02:39 and will it be a big change switching all the paths to X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com when we integrate it directly into the platform? 20:02:54 No. :-) 20:03:00 Oh yeah, one other thing... I know the updater can update itself right? 20:03:09 Yes 20:03:26 I'm gonna peg the updater versions and platform versions together and have it update both if that is cool with you. 20:03:58 I can have the updater shut down the platform temporarilily by sending a windows message (you can see similar code in the installer already) and then start it up again when done. 20:05:22 That was my intention for it :-). This code I have use some time ago too :-) All the new code is designed in order to work as part of the platform. 20:05:45 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 20:06:50 The updater searches first in the Pa.com tree for the locals and settings and only if there a no hint he is using the subdirectory of the exe :-) 20:07:11 So it works as part of the suite and without it. 20:08:52 * markomlm need some sleep now 20:08:54 cool. 20:08:56 get some sleep man 20:08:59 good nite dude 20:09:04 thanks for all your work. hope you're feeling better 20:10:00 JohnTHaller: THX. Yes. Back at an on work again. And a lot to do ;-) 20:10:09 Good :-) 20:10:48 Ok, gonna power down and install my new UPS battery that just arrived. Be back later... 20:10:51 CU :-) THX for making me PA at the SF project. BTW I've voted :-) 20:10:57 Nice 20:11:09 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 20:11:13 bye 20:11:22 *** markomlm has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]") 20:12:18 *** powerjuce (n=powerjuc@unaffiliated/powerjuce) has joined #portableapps 20:14:49 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 20:15:44 *** AppGuy has quit (Client Quit) 20:23:20 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-59-35.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 20:23:36 Ah, there we go. New UPS battery online. Back to solid power. 20:24:20 ah cool... i really need to get a ups if im gonna be in vermont next year.... 20:24:47 our house has tons ... well not tons... but too many outages because of all the snow we get :/ 20:26:38 it doesn't help during real outtages (which last a while) but it's great for short ones. and brownouts as long as you get one with AVR 20:27:45 NYC has some power issues. coned's equipment is really outdated and they don't maintain it well. that's why a huge area in queens lost power for over a week (and put several small businesses out of business). they had 60 year old feeder cables that they were just ignoring. 20:28:12 o_O 20:28:30 so during a heat wave one went. then another. then another. 20:28:48 wow 20:29:01 and of course every summer you have the random transformer explosions. which are underground. and throw manhole covers up in the air. or up into a parked car and blow it up. 20:29:18 O_O 20:29:56 oh god 20:29:58 It's the largest city in the US and some of the services are 3rd world. 20:30:05 lol sry i wasnt paying attention 20:30:07 but ya i know.. 20:30:09 well 20:30:19 my dad knows. he grew up there 20:30:54 summer before last one blew up into a car someone was sitting it waiting for a light. luckily, it hit he engine block and not the gas tank, but it launched the car up a few feet. air bags went off. blew out the windows in the pharmacy nearby. totalled the car. and knocked out power for blocks. 20:30:57 JohnTHaller so you must have learned one big tip over the years: dont park over a manhole XD 20:31:02 wow 20:31:49 oh gtg home cya guys in a bit 20:31:57 obai 20:32:01 this is the same company that electrocutes dogs and old ladies on street corners with uninsulated wires hitting metal grates, too 20:32:17 O_O O_O O_O 20:32:18 WTF 20:34:15 This just happened last month: http://gothamist.com/2009/04/27/outrage_at_con_ed_mounts_over_fatal.php 20:35:06 *** powerjuce has quit ("peace out all") 20:35:08 JohnTHaller: I head about that one 20:35:17 there was MAJOR press coverage over it for a while 20:35:49 the car that someone was in was 3 blocks from me. saw the aftermath of that one. saw the parked minivan that blew up on fire. 20:36:13 and people wonder why it's not my dream to live in or visit NYC 20:36:19 and another car same thing before anybody even got there. just car engulfed in flames on a random street in front of houses 2 blocks from me. 20:36:34 it is a nice place to live 20:36:40 except when it's trying to kill you 20:36:52 JohnTHaller: except...lol 20:36:55 so is michigan 20:36:57 I'm happy with it :D 20:37:36 CT is boring =_= 20:38:20 of course, two days ago our power outage was fun...if I would've remembered to shut down my server I would've had internet on my ipod touch the whole time too....my UPS doesn't last more than 30 minutes wiht my server running still 20:38:59 Yeah, mine is only 30 minutes. enough time to shut down 20:39:19 yeah, with my desktop and two monitors, plus the server and modem and router it'll last 10... 20:39:27 I just shut my desktop down, and usually the server too, but oh well 20:39:40 it was nice to have the battery completely drain on the thing for once 20:39:41 good for it 20:40:04 ah the cable fires and car explosions started early this year. started in feb: http://www.jacksonheightslife.com/community/index.php?topic=2244.0 20:42:09 JohnTHaller: I don't envy you at all 20:49:22 *** Jeremified has quit ("Brb") 20:54:22 *** Jeremified (n=Gforce20@ip24-255-26-228.tc.ph.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 21:16:49 SergentSiler LIES! CT IS FUN :D 21:17:00 :P 21:17:02 i grew up in ct 21:17:15 :o 21:17:18 see SergentSiler? its fun! JohnTHaller grew up there :D 21:17:20 what town? 21:17:43 plainville 21:17:52 ah 21:18:00 im down in Madison :D 21:18:35 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 21:18:36 lol im half an hour away from SergentSiler :P 21:36:36 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("ganna go play with mah pokemanz") 21:47:31 *** Bensawsome has quit ("The awsome is gone :(") 21:50:24 *** StatBot has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:59:06 *** Gforce__ (n=Gforce20@ip24-255-26-228.tc.ph.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 21:59:31 *** Jeremified has quit (Nick collision from services.) 21:59:35 *** Gforce__ is now known as Jeremified 22:00:47 *** Espreon has quit (sendak.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22:01:53 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 22:03:49 *** StatBot (n=StatBot@c-67-186-185-102.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:04:51 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 22:05:06 *** Bensawsome (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 22:19:48 *** ZachThibeau (n=zachthib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 22:32:17 *** daBomb69 (i=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 22:35:34 *** OliverK89 (i=60f8aa82@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dac0a97300cefd0a) has joined #portableapps 22:45:36 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-67-189-254-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:46:57 *** OliverK89 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22:49:03 ohai gluxon 23:03:55 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.241.176) has joined #portableapps 23:19:04 *** Havvy (i=473be61f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-313ce9720232cae7) has joined #portableapps 23:30:58 *** palogbot (n=palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 23:30:58 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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