00:00:56 *** ptmb|away is now known as ptmb 00:01:00 you may have a good idea, but none of us here can say one way or the other 00:02:33 *** aan has quit () 00:12:39 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 00:12:46 OMG he stored all this stuff on his desktop :O http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9828/scr1244332649.png 00:13:20 He obviously does not know how System Restore works 00:14:24 TimClark: what's wrong with system restore? 00:14:52 Did I say something was wrong with it ? 00:15:00 I swear by it 00:15:45 ah, you mean that his program files won't be touched by it, so the concept of sys restore will be useless? 00:16:01 EVERYTHING on you desktop is archived by system restore if you delete it even if is Gigabyes in size 00:16:39 O_O 00:16:53 ah okay, i get it now 00:16:54 now that will be a problem for him 00:17:02 evertime he lauches an app it is effecting SR, which is fine if that's what he wants, but I don't think it is 00:17:36 I keep my apps in MyDocuments, which is NOT monitored by system restore 00:17:38 well he has some cut down version of xp so he might not even have it on 00:17:55 i remember when he came last time 00:18:11 Your desktop is really not the place to keep anything other than short cuts, or folders with shortcuts 00:18:30 yup 00:18:37 my philosophy as well 00:18:43 lol 00:18:46 Again, unless you REALLY want them protected by System Restore 00:18:54 i save stuff on the desktop and gradually clear it off 00:19:11 and it is all archived for 90 days Bensawsome :O 00:19:35 Oh, I need to change my philosophy, as I try to usually keep only 6 shortcuts on my desktop, but sometimes I also place in it temporary files that I need in that moment and I move to a proper place when done using them 00:19:39 lol 00:19:47 i hate keeping shortcuts on my desktop 00:19:52 i always use the quick launch bar 00:20:00 same :P 00:20:02 much morer easy to access 00:20:05 *more 00:20:12 i use launchy 00:20:13 ptmb: those temp files are achived for 90 days too 00:20:21 I rarely even see my desktop 00:20:21 no need for mouse 00:20:23 damn you temp =_= 00:20:57 DO NOT download a 500MB installer to your desktop, DO NOT :O 00:20:58 as I said, I only keep 6 shortcuts, that are almost always useless :P but I'll try to get a folder in my documents with a shortcut to the desktop 00:21:25 yes i know that. anything bigger then 50 mb i dl to my 500gb internal drive 00:21:35 TimClark: in that point I am smart, I have all downloads being automatically sent to a folder called "Downloads" in MyDocument 00:21:52 ptmb: me too 00:22:18 (anyway, system restore is not a problem for now as I am in Linux, but i have to adapt for when I am in WIndows) 00:22:45 By the way, Tim swears by SR and thinks only a fool would turn it off 00:23:21 I don't even have it :P 00:23:24 You can make it keep points for less time, and use less space, so there is no real excuse to not have it turned on 00:23:46 yeah..if you want to delete all your previous points though 00:23:57 you have to disable it & re-enable it again 00:24:10 i usually do on a freshly installed windows 00:24:13 hehehe i wont need it when i get mai mac :D 00:24:31 ill be able to back it up using a nice handy applescript ^_^ 00:24:44 mine is set to only keep 4 weeks [28 days] of points and not use more than a gigabyte of space 00:25:04 mine is set to default settings >_> 00:25:24 the default 90days and 12% of the drive is too much 00:25:35 well, i don't mind 00:25:48 I only have it on on my windows drive. 00:26:01 sar3th: oh, it won't hurt anything, just you really never want to go back more than a week or so 00:26:24 if you do, too many things can have changed 00:26:26 oh, and my programs drive 00:26:29 the only reason why i really dislike it is that it always activated on new drives, external hdd for example 00:26:46 it's useless there 00:26:50 tell windows you don't want it on that drive 00:26:52 well, I have to go, bye everybody 00:26:53 just blocking safe remove 00:26:55 TimClark: the default of 12% on my windows drive is only 2.5Gb...that's not bad. 00:26:59 ya that's what i do all the times 00:27:01 bye ptmb 00:27:05 *** ptmb has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00:27:17 Gizmokid2005: 5.7 gb for me :P 00:27:34 sar3th: my windows partition is only 20GB 00:27:39 Gizmokid2005: you must have a small drive if that's the default 00:27:42 nm 00:27:47 yeah 00:27:54 I don't put anything on the C: drive that doesn't have to be 00:27:55 NOTHIGN. 00:27:56 *NOTHING 00:28:06 I changed the default isntall to D:\Program Files 00:28:12 my documents has been moved there also 00:28:17 and that's where all my DLs go 00:28:33 the performance increase is what I need 00:28:46 * TimClark wonders why when ever he brings this up that no one has for the secrect to make SR keep SR points for less time :/ 00:29:06 TimClark: I don't know that secret. 00:29:07 has asked * 00:29:16 I'll admit that 00:29:27 Gizmokid2005: of course not, it's a secrect :P 00:29:33 TimClark: 00:29:36 give me 2 minutes 00:30:07 hint 1: It's measured in seconds :O 00:30:41 hint 2: you have to edit the registry 00:31:04 .g system restore time registry seconds 00:31:05 sar3th: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295659 00:31:23 sar3th: lol 00:31:26 I just read through that 00:31:26 :) 00:31:33 I was just going to paste it :) 00:31:44 RPGlobalInterval? 00:31:57 actually, that result is USEFUL o0 00:32:03 yup 00:32:03 sar3th: be careful 00:32:26 ah no it's RPLifeInterval 00:32:35 much better 00:32:51 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 00:33:02 sar3th: get a cookie :D 00:33:08 :D 00:33:17 * Gizmokid2005 sends sar3th an e-cookie 00:33:23 :D thx 00:33:34 DON'T mess with the settings unless you are SURE you know what you are doing 00:33:52 of course TimClark, it's registry :) 00:34:06 and some of those settings should NEVER BE played with 00:34:40 of course if you messed it up you could use System Restore to fix it :D 00:34:50 lol :D 00:34:53 Unless you killed System Restore :O 00:35:53 I think keeping them for 4 weeks is ok, but no less than two, just to be safe 00:36:56 * Gizmokid2005 admits that SR is enabled, though I've never used it...nor ever will 00:37:03 and if you change the amount of space it can use, be sure to calcualte that in relation to the time you set 00:37:19 Gizmokid2005: i have never had to use it for myself either 00:37:36 I would consider it's use only in an emergency 00:38:10 but I want that option, always, to be availible 00:38:16 I won't even use it then, that's why I take nightly backups 00:38:34 wow nice Gizmokid2005 00:38:43 not is not my advice 00:38:46 sar3th: I only keep the last night, and then the last week, and then the last month. 00:38:50 that is not my advice 00:38:58 I know TimClark 00:39:09 but it will work 00:39:26 i thought about writing my own little backup program..it would provide general functions, used by app-specific plugins 00:39:53 In a sense a restore poin is a backup, but only of your important settings and files needed for the system to work 00:40:32 and things like your desktop, which is what broght us here in the first place :P 00:41:04 /bbs setting DVD recording 00:41:12 I'm not a new user either, and if it comes down to SR I'll just restore a backup and then I can use my nightly backup to restore any indiviual files/directories I may need 00:46:31 Gizmokid2005: of course, my advice always assumes a non-geek 00:46:39 TimClark: I know :) 00:47:49 and worse, a newbie geek wanna be I think I'm hot crap type 00:48:19 like folks who I will not name who may or may note be in the channel right now :O 00:48:55 *** upnPAD (n=upnPAD@121.218.63.173) has joined #portableapps 00:49:13 lol yeah I hear ya there 00:50:15 hi upnPAD we were just talking about you 00:50:59 j/k j/k upnPAD , just kidding :P ..... or was I? :O 00:52:00 k lol 00:52:34 Gizmokid2005: quick, blank the logs :O 00:53:06 lol I don't have acecss 00:53:20 All incriminating evidence is now gone :P 00:53:33 didn't even check :P 00:53:57 Only PatrickP can edit the logs 01:05:58 *** powerjuce|away has quit ("peace out all") 01:06:17 the they're no longer logs 01:06:27 *then 01:09:21 upnPAD: expalin your question please 01:09:36 what question? 01:10:33 I did not understand you last comment and it's correction and thought you might have been asking a question 01:11:38 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.246.124) has joined #portableapps 01:12:19 ok, I think you were saying "If the logs are edited they are no longer logs" , PatrickP only edits out illegal links and really foul language 01:13:26 gool el salvador win 01:13:53 *** sar3th has quit ("sleeping time..goodnight all") 01:22:51 sourceforge is no longer sourcePhail ! 01:30:38 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-67-189-254-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:32:23 not it's slowforge for me 01:32:54 My point being it is up and running 01:33:16 yeah but not eh login 01:33:18 **the 01:45:09 *** Jeremified has quit ("Reboot") 01:53:21 *** sancas has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:53:26 *** sancas_ (n=sancas@190.87.246.124) has joined #portableapps 01:56:53 *** sancas_ is now known as sancas 02:00:29 *** dragonmage (i=newdrago@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:05:42 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps () 02:08:43 *** alpha1beta (n=michael@unaffiliated/alpha1beta) has joined #portableapps 02:08:53 hey guys 02:09:05 hey alpha1beta :D 02:09:23 hey ben, what's with the new rules and stuff on the topic? 02:09:55 lol 02:10:00 wait.. wtf? 02:10:09 " Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | A '?' is not an intelligent reply" 02:10:12 lol i dunno where the last part came from 02:10:16 that's faily new 02:10:28 you are faily :P 02:10:30 XD 02:10:41 but the second to last one came from people continuously pming members on the channel top get support 02:10:43 *to 02:10:45 sorry, getting use to this netbook :D 02:11:06 got a Asus 1000HE as a grad present 02:11:10 actually it was added yesterday 02:11:12 the topic 02:11:20 according to mai stats ^_^ http://ircstats.info/portableapps.html 02:11:32 ah, yeah, I wasn't older than a week I knew that 02:11:38 lol 02:14:16 so what you been up to lately, out of school yet? 02:14:33 not yet :/ 02:14:35 23rd.... 02:14:38 ouch 02:14:41 but 02:14:48 i also get my graduation present 02:14:56 and we should take this to ot shouldnt we >_> 02:15:02 please tell me not a mac :P 02:15:05 channel 02:15:10 s dead, no harm rly but ok 02:15:12 #PortableApps-OT 02:16:35 *** ZachThibeau is now known as zz_ZachThibeau 02:20:46 *** Jeremified (n=Jerforce@24.255.26.228) has joined #portableapps 02:25:46 *** free (i=48174a7b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8292045325542741) has joined #portableapps 02:26:02 hello? 02:26:14 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:26:16 hey, how can we help you? 02:26:16 *** free is now known as freerealmer 02:26:30 have you ever heard of free realms? 02:26:38 no sir 02:26:48 what is it? 02:27:02 an online game 02:27:06 *** Suiseiseki (i=desulove@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 02:27:17 but it installs things to your browser 02:27:28 and you want to know if it's portable? 02:27:46 using an exe that puts said files on your computer 02:27:48 and yes 02:28:09 and I cant redirect the files it needs to firefox 02:28:39 you need to find out where those files are placed first, and usually, you can just copy them from the local plugins dir to the portable plugins dir 02:28:58 they are all ddl files 02:29:09 im confused by it 02:29:16 it has them everywhere 02:29:29 ok, well first things first find them 02:29:38 even the program files folder has ddl files in it 02:29:42 oh 02:29:45 and only thode 02:29:54 *those 02:30:04 then you need to make a launcher, check the forms for help on that, I'll get you a link 02:30:21 ok 02:30:58 this is probably the most useful research http://portableapps.com/node/14868 02:32:08 uuuh my head hurts 02:32:27 I don't understand half of this stuff 02:32:51 The best thing to do is to see if it is OSS 02:33:13 ok, if you explore the site a bit you'll find out we make portable launchers, that move,re-direct and find files 02:33:43 you can do it if it';s not OSS but you can't rly tell anyone and I can't help you with it, but I can give you the general idea of what we do 02:34:03 I would bet it's not OSS 02:37:09 would the portable apps installer program help/ 02:37:10 ? 02:38:07 http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer 02:38:09 that's part of it 02:38:38 part? 02:39:25 Yes, part. 02:39:41 of......? 02:39:45 It installs your program. 02:39:50 working on it..h.o. man 02:40:03 YOUR program. 02:40:07 well you use that as the installer, then you'd need to modify the launcher (the exe that starts the program when you click something in the PAN|M) 02:40:37 K, I'll go step by step on making a Portable Launcher, do you want me to do that? Or answer something else? 02:40:55 yes, please gluxon 02:41:02 step bye step, or should I just upload the installer? 02:41:03 all yours 02:41:20 freerealmer: You can't make an installer with out making the program first. 02:41:32 ? 02:41:42 K... I'll go into that later. 02:41:49 look im an average joe, not a programmer 02:41:49 It'll make more sense at the end. 02:42:04 I'll go from a computer newbie perspective 02:42:09 ok 02:42:28 To start, what machine are you on? And do you have admin privlidges (if you know what that is). 02:42:48 windows xp and yes 02:43:03 and its my comp 02:43:04 To start, let's get the utilities you need. 02:43:08 ok 02:43:22 Do you want the link for the Portable Version of the Programs you need or the local version? 02:43:32 portable 02:43:49 K. 02:43:54 Let me find the links. 02:43:59 k 02:45:34 http://padp.googlecode.com/files/NIS_Edit_Portable_2.0.3_Development_Test_11.paf.exe 02:45:34 http://www.gizmokid2005.com/zachthibeau/portableapps/NSIS_Portable_2.44_Pre-Release%204.paf.exe 02:45:34 http://portableapps.com/node/10969 02:45:37 Download those. 02:45:51 Then I'll get into some other programs that'll be a little more dificult to install. 02:46:16 BTW, sorry. You also of course need this: http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_installer 02:46:27 got that one 02:46:35 install them all? 02:46:49 Yes. 02:46:55 They're pretty small. 02:47:22 They'll probably take up a little less than 20 MBs. 02:48:22 done 02:48:25 K. 02:48:31 Do you have a .zip reader? 02:48:39 If you know what that is? 02:48:41 comes with windows 02:48:46 7zip ftw 02:48:51 and i got 7zip 02:48:55 K. 02:49:00 That makes things easier. 02:49:05 Download this... 02:49:06 http://icofx.ro/files/icofxpe.zip 02:49:28 Extract the IcoFX 1.6 folder to the X:\PortableApps folder 02:49:33 Where X: is your drive letter. 02:50:00 *** alpha1beta has parted #portableapps () 02:50:08 d 02:50:23 done 02:51:12 ? 02:51:43 u still there 02:51:44 ? 02:51:59 Sorry. 02:52:11 extracted 02:52:13 I was looking at the freerealms website. 02:52:14 K. 02:52:30 next step? 02:52:49 Let's start by understanding how the program makes another program portable. 02:53:36 k 02:53:42 You know those .exe's? For example, in X:\FirefoxPortable 02:53:47 There's FirefoxPortable.exe 02:53:50 yes? 02:53:58 And in 7-ZipPortable... there's 7-ZipPortable.exe 02:54:01 im using firefox now 02:54:11 Those are the programs that you'll make. 02:54:16 yep I at least understand exe's 02:54:21 K. 02:54:44 Start by looking at how the PAF format works. 02:54:55 http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format 02:55:13 well first you do understand that freerealms is not an exe, just the installer 02:55:22 ? 02:55:32 I'll check it out and see how it works while you read that. 02:55:39 k 02:58:54 *** sancas has quit ("Saliendo") 02:59:28 I managed to download that installer. 03:00:14 run it then you will find ddl files in the program files folder 03:00:28 *** dabossbv1 (n=dabossbv@p57A6DAC3.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 03:00:30 it almost seems to be a special ad-on 03:01:41 Which Folder in the Program Files? 03:02:07 sony* 03:02:12 I didn't find anything in my G:\Program Files and C:\Program Files 03:02:38 it will be called sony digital or something like that 03:03:24 *** dabossbv has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:04:29 Ok, I found it. 03:04:58 Like alpha1beta said, it's normal to have dlls in a folder inside Program Files. 03:05:10 but no exe 03:05:13 Ok. Go into that folder and copy those 3 files to your desktop. 03:05:14 .. 03:05:27 I found a uninstall exe 03:06:04 ok done 03:06:21 Now, what's your email, I have to send you soemthing. 03:06:55 jamieboysrule@hotmail.com 03:08:08 Sent. 03:09:29 recieved 03:09:56 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 03:10:55 and extracted 03:12:41 hello? 03:12:53 Sorry. 03:13:02 looking again? 03:13:18 K, Rename the AppNamePortable to FreeRealmsPortable Or FreeRealmPortable (your choice) 03:13:20 Yeah. 03:13:52 done 03:14:59 .. 03:15:08 next 03:15:32 K. 03:15:37 Open up help.html 03:15:41 With notepad. 03:16:10 k 03:16:17 Hey, if I'm gone, next time just type in my username (which is gluxon) my client will automaticly ping me and tell me that somebody want's me. 03:16:24 ok 03:16:29 K. 03:16:47 next step 03:16:48 Edit --> Replace 03:16:57 where? 03:17:05 In the menu bar of Notepad. 03:17:14 k 03:17:27 find what and replace with 03:17:35 Find What: AppName 03:17:53 Replace With: FreeRealms (or FreeRealm whatever you chose) 03:18:13 Tell me if you choose FreeRealms or FreeRealm.. it'll make it easier on me. 03:18:21 FreeRealms 03:18:27 done 03:18:53 gluxon: next 03:19:17 K. 03:19:31 help is modified 03:19:35 next 03:19:36 Scroll down to the bottom. 03:19:44 k 03:19:49 Oh crude... 03:19:52 Do you know HTML? 03:19:55 what? 03:19:59 somewhat 03:20:20 just use pastebin 03:21:22 ? 03:21:24 Oh. 03:21:29 I'll edit it for you then :P 03:22:51 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 03:23:26 http://pastebin.com/d30013c23 03:24:22 *** freerealmer has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03:24:37 Delete everything in the file and replace it with the pastebin text. 03:33:50 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.246.124) has joined #portableapps 03:38:27 *** gluxon has quit ("Leaving.") 03:57:47 *** dabossbv (n=dabossbv@p57A6CDE8.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 04:03:22 *** drag|away is now known as dragonmage 04:15:31 *** dabossbv1 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:27:13 *** pa_3904 (i=44cbd8a1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-24442db9d10d88e8) has joined #portableapps 04:27:59 hey 04:29:20 *** pa_3904 has quit (Client Quit) 04:38:35 *** powerjuce (n=powerjuc@unaffiliated/powerjuce) has joined #portableapps 04:39:01 *** powerjuce has quit (Client Quit) 04:41:11 *** Jeremified has quit ("Good night.") 04:41:24 *** sancas has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:57:14 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.246.124) has joined #portableapps 05:10:22 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@137-150.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 05:12:46 *** sancas has quit (Remote closed the connection) 05:19:14 *** jax8 (i=18069a3d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9d299e6e24c50c45) has joined #portableapps 05:19:49 new user here. how can i get the usb to autorun the menu? 05:21:29 *** Whibo has quit () 05:22:43 *** jax8 has quit (Client Quit) 05:24:44 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("screw google, use oxysearch, the concentrated formula (TM) http://www.oxysearch.com/") 05:25:28 *** Res2216firestar has quit ("BOOM!!!") 05:40:22 *** Jeremified (n=Jerforce@72.208.7.26) has joined #portableapps 05:40:50 *** jeth (i=457ce387@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-80e6f66d1e984443) has joined #portableapps 05:41:37 I was able to install a standalone app (PalMail) by simply creating a folder for it and copying all of it's files into that folder. 05:42:14 The same process didn't works as cleanly for AVZ. Although it runs OK it shows up on the PA Menu as "?????????? AVZ" 05:43:58 help 05:49:58 *** jeth has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06:04:55 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 06:10:35 *** TimClark (i=0c49f1e9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e00122140b050bb3) has joined #portableapps 06:13:08 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps () 06:20:02 *** JAX8 (i=18069a3d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a97378036b76859b) has joined #portableapps 06:20:25 HELP! 06:22:37 *** JAX8 has quit (Client Quit) 06:40:51 *** Espreon has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:44:06 *** Jeremified has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:45:02 *** Guest7657 (n=Jerforce@72.208.7.26) has joined #portableapps 06:45:49 *** Guest7657 is now known as Jeremified 07:35:00 *** Jeremified has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:13:12 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 08:17:57 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 08:49:45 *** Horusofoz (n=Administ@219-90-175-219.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 08:49:53 Evening all 08:51:15 And good (early) morning to you. 08:53:04 Espreon :) Do you recall this - http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19000 - :) 08:53:31 Uh..................... no‽ 08:53:48 'Twas a failed conspiracy started by the Yakuza... 08:54:34 :D 08:54:41 See the last post in the thread? 08:54:41 Yeahz... 08:55:53 Any likelihood of this going ahead or not enough time? 08:57:10 Uh... I was naïeveness incarnate at the time... 08:58:07 So, uh, I probably will not do it until I learn how to actually make a good launcher rather than an abomination that I thought was good a couple years ago. 08:58:42 Have you had a suss at Chris's PortableApps.com Launcher Test? 08:58:55 A what‽ 08:58:56 It supposed to make things a LOT easier 08:59:43 What is this "suss" of which thou speakest? 09:00:34 ahh sorry Australian slang. Means look. 09:01:01 Ah... Thank you for the clarification. 09:05:56 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 09:06:25 * Espreon hopes that everyone has forgotten about the disgraceful Armogohma Suites. 09:07:20 * Horusofoz googles Armogohma Suites = ) 09:08:17 NO! 09:08:41 Don't do it! If you do, your eyes will bleed! 09:09:24 :D:D:D:D:D 09:11:46 It's not that bad 09:11:58 Ðe deorcnes... will taketh thee to a horrible place... 09:12:05 Really now? 09:12:30 Look on the bright side 09:12:44 Yeah? 09:13:13 You got awareness of the suite out there a bit more plus learnt more for your self 09:13:29 I suppose... 09:16:27 If you want a laugh have a look at my first few posts. I was VERY keen on PortableApps.com early on but I needed to be told about 10 times b4 I understood what OSS was :) 09:18:37 Heh... 10:03:39 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps () 10:10:12 *** freerealmer (i=48174a7b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-798cd9702c3939ea) has joined #portableapps 10:10:26 is gluxon here? 10:12:14 or anyone else who can help me continue to make a portable apps 10:14:08 sure, ask your question 10:14:49 i am in the middle of making a portable app with gluxon last night but I lost connection 10:15:02 and I need help continueing now 10:17:03 last thing he wanted me to do was something about HTML at the bottom of the help file sar3th 10:18:33 all of the was for a freerealms 10:21:45 freerealmer: have you created a launcher yet? 10:22:12 trying to 10:22:31 is it working yet? 10:22:57 because you should first finish the launcher and create the documentation (help.html) afterwards ;) 10:23:23 hmm he had me doing the help.html now 10:23:56 well, you can of course go ahead and continue editing the heml.html 10:24:01 *help.html 10:24:03 now before we go into this you should know that the program files it leave are a bunch of ddls 10:27:47