00:09:47 *** WastePuree is now known as WastePotato 00:16:17 *** jnw222|afk has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:22:03 *** jnw222 has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:22:11 *** jnw2221 (n=jnw222@64-18-122-30.adsl.catt.com) has joined #portableapps 00:45:59 *** jnw2221 has quit ("bye") 00:58:58 *** ptmb has quit ("Bye everybody") 01:31:52 *** daNom69 (n=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 01:36:28 *** daNom69 has quit (Client Quit) 02:14:07 *** WastePotato has quit (No route to host) 02:15:26 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 02:16:29 *** Clorox (n=HP_Admin@katy-dsl-76-164-110-64.consolidated.net) has joined #portableapps 02:17:15 I like the PortableApps specification, but there are problems with it. 02:17:23 rly? 02:17:26 such as? 02:17:36 The app icons that show up in the menu 02:17:45 whats wrong w/ them? 02:18:42 I believe that they should use a bunch of .lnk shortcuts in a defined folder, instead of using every .exe file found in subdirectories of the PortableApps folder 02:19:08 Clorox, .lnk's don't update drive letter 02:19:25 hmm. 02:19:37 then, make a new kind of file type? 02:20:01 This way, Portable applications not made specifically for PortableApps can be used. 02:20:02 except, not everyone uses the menu, so that would end badly for those that don't 02:20:20 how? 02:20:52 well, new file type, and, if windows doesn't know how to run it... then they wouldn't be able to use the papp 02:21:27 Well, there would still be the .exe for them, I'm not saying to get rid of that 02:21:35 just add on to it 02:22:18 and of couse, on that same note, PAM works basically as a windows start menu, just launches the app 02:22:31 PAM? 02:22:32 it couldn't handle weird formats either... 02:22:38 Portable Apps Menu 02:22:41 oh 02:22:50 well, of course. 02:23:19 For those who don't use the PAM, then the .exe would still be there, waiting for them. 02:23:29 but, for those that do 02:23:39 you'd still need to do something to windows 02:23:53 to get it to understand do this to this format 02:23:59 For those who are using the PAM, then there would be a nice, more usable menu for them 02:24:15 You don't need Windows to recognize the format 02:24:22 just PortableApps.com 02:24:31 PAM is just an app which launches something else 02:24:41 right 02:24:46 I am aware of this. 02:25:13 Windows does not need to be aware of file-type as long as the PAM is aware of it. 02:25:20 so, it would say run this file, and windows would spit back something to the tune of "What's this?" 02:25:20 it can be an xml file. 02:25:25 hmm... 02:25:43 The files themselves are not for the end-user 02:25:53 now, how would they be made? 02:26:06 They are for the PAM only, so it can make its list of apps 02:26:08 umm 02:26:18 cause 02:26:20 what we do is, 02:26:33 we make launchers in a scripting language called NSIS 02:26:38 then, when their compiled, 02:26:41 Installers 02:26:49 they become the exe we all know and love 02:27:21 Well, some applications don't use the NSIS .exe, but are still portable 02:27:28 Portable Ubuntu for Windows uses a .bat file to run, but there are four or five .exe files in its same directory. 02:27:48 and, uhh, there's some issues with portable ubuntu 02:28:04 If we could make some sort of .xml file for use only with PAM, then there would be a nice menu item for Portable Ubuntu. 02:28:38 hmm... 02:28:57 besides, the shortcuts would be easy to make, and .bat files could run from them 02:29:05 true 02:29:43 although, which would be eaisier, having it read exe's (Which most portable programs are),or doing the xml thing? 02:30:10 What is "it" in this sense 02:30:16 it reading exes 02:30:30 PAM 02:31:03 xml, probably. Exes are executable binaries, which would take longer to load 02:31:25 uhh... so, instead of directly loading the exe 02:31:26 , 02:31:36 also it still needs to load the icons 02:31:36 OR BAT FILE 02:31:37 we'd load an xml which redirects to the exe? 02:31:46 so basically it would still be loading the exe files 02:31:47 pretty much 02:31:49 sort of 02:31:54 even if it does use a xml thing 02:31:55 also 02:32:06 so, that would take longer 02:32:23 what a user has to do now to uninstall it is to delete the apps folder 02:32:31 if all the xml files are in one folder then it would still show up 02:32:38 good point. 02:32:42 and currently there is no uninstaller cause its so simple 02:32:45 see, it's just an idea. 02:32:48 but 02:33:03 we could put the each apps xml into that apps directoiry 02:33:09 that could work 02:33:20 portableappsloader.xml 02:33:25 seems good 02:33:35 but ya thats just my input 02:33:44 ima go upstairs and watch some tv so cya ;) 02:33:50 okay, bye 02:33:50 lol, bye ben 02:33:58 thanks for the input 02:35:12 *** rcmaehl (n=rcmaehl@96-28-92-129.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 02:36:10 So we've got now: 02:36:25 for the PAM users, an xml file loaded by PAM. 02:36:32 ? 02:36:39 for non-PAM users, the exe files is still there. 02:36:41 oh 02:36:44 mhmm... 02:36:48 just an idea I have 02:36:59 ya, it's a nice idea... 02:37:27 In short, I think the current way is great, but could be expanded 02:37:33 ya 02:39:00 gotta go 02:39:09 Bye, thanks for the imput 02:39:12 *** Clorox has parted #portableapps () 02:39:14 *input 02:39:24 Hey can I tell a joke in here please? 02:39:36 no 02:39:40 ok 02:39:46 Bensawsome, i thought you left 02:39:46 what about -ot 02:39:56 im upstairs now daBomb69 02:40:02 oh 02:40:03 never said i wasnt gonna get back on 02:40:07 heh 02:40:10 lol 02:40:15 *** rcmaehl has parted #portableapps ("May the forks be with you!") 02:40:18 So, what did you think of the XML idea? 02:40:45 ask john 02:40:50 he is the one who makes it 02:52:01 *** daNom69 (n=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 02:52:15 *** dzjepp has quit () 02:53:35 *** daBomb69 has quit (Nick collision from services.) 02:55:04 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 02:58:55 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 03:22:26 *** daNom69 has quit (Success) 03:34:40 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 03:39:16 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 03:50:37 *** SrgSiler|Sleep has quit ("see everyone next week :D") 04:02:14 *** ChrisMorgan (n=ChrisMor@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 04:02:16 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher. 04:08:03 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("Leaving.") 04:09:38 *** ChrisMorgan (n=ChrisMor@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 04:09:40 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher. 04:21:15 This Clorox guy has obviously missed a lot of what's been happening... 04:21:41 The menu will shortly be supporting a vastly better system than just that. 04:22:57 I'm confident it'll INI-based. There's no need for XML files, and INI reading is faster, and INI writing easier too. 04:23:52 Just setting up KVIrc 4.0 snapshot... its setup thing is interesting, page 2 is entitled "Dreaded License Agreement" =-o 04:29:53 *** |ChrisMorgan| (n=kvirc@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 04:33:36 *** ChrisMorgan has quit ("Leaving.") 04:35:46 Gne1! 04:36:32 *** ChrisMorgan (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 04:36:32 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher. 04:36:38 *** _ChrisMorgan_ (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 04:36:54 *** ChrisMorgan1 (n=ChrisMor@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 04:36:59 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:37:14 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.242.47) has joined #portableapps 04:37:30 *** _ChrisMorgan_ is now known as ChrisMorgan 04:38:03 *** |ChrisMorgan| has quit (Nick collision from services.) 04:38:46 Please forgive me... my laptop hibernated and then I had one copy with Pidgin and two with KVIrc (still working out the ropes) 04:39:10 *** WastePotato has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:40:29 *** ChrisMorgan1 has parted #portableapps () 04:42:18 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:43:22 *** ChrisMorgan (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 04:43:22 ... 04:44:01 It crashed doing something in the theme settings... 04:46:14 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:46:30 *** ChrisMorgan (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 04:47:02 Changing settings is a good way to make it crash... 04:47:12 Ah well, I think I've tamed most of it. 04:47:19 *** dragonmage (i=newdrago@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 04:47:25 Hey dragonmage 04:47:42 hey ChrisMorgan 04:47:55 how goes it? 04:48:17 Oh, fine I think. 04:48:33 Getting KVIrc working seems to have made a nice mess in the logs ;-) 04:48:48 oh yeah? 04:49:05 Take a look if you like :P 04:49:08 :D 04:49:24 The smileys it's got are interesting... very plain :(|) 04:49:28 where are teh logs? 04:49:38 palogbot: uri 04:49:38 http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-07-12#T04-49-38 04:51:37 not too bad 04:54:02 hmm... 05:10:27 *** PatrickPatience (n=Patrick@unaffiliated/patrickpatience) has joined #portableapps 05:11:02 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:18:39 Patrick!!! 05:22:13 Yooo! 05:22:29 Anyone watching SNL? 05:33:25 nope 05:33:55 I didn't know it was on now 05:38:37 what tz you in PatrickPatience? 05:49:39 EST. 05:49:44 *** |ChrisMorgan| (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 05:50:40 *** |ChrisMorgan| is now known as ChrisMorgan 06:04:02 what channel is SNL on at 1 in the morning? 06:05:03 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("Billy Mays here, Use oxysearch, the search engine with concentrated formula™ http://www.oxysearch.com/") 06:05:24 *** PatrickPatience has quit ("Leaving.") 06:18:05 *** HypnoToad (n=TaffinFo@121.217.229.42) has joined #portableapps 06:40:19 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|zzZZ 06:50:02 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|away 07:34:34 *** sancas has quit ("Saliendo") 07:48:55 *** ChrisMorgan|away is now known as ChrisMorgan 07:50:01 Does a mod want to censor http://portableapps.com/node/19937#comment-122775? 07:50:11 What a rude, nasty, vicious comment. 07:58:06 *** SteveLamerton (n=SteveLam@91.125.250.223) has joined #portableapps 07:58:14 *** SteveLamerton has quit (Client Quit) 08:34:30 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|away 08:40:53 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 09:19:00 *** HypnoToad has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:33:58 *** rmccue (n=rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 09:37:11 *** ZerFEr (n=zefer@217.194.116.85.dsl.manitu.net) has joined #portableapps 10:37:11 *** ChrisMorgan|away is now known as ChrisMorgan 10:59:10 Eep... telavir's broken their web hosting services, the PHP parser isn't running... any requests just download... :s 10:59:24 What a way to go... 11:05:37 *** rmccue has quit ("The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two"") 11:33:31 *** abc528 (n=abc528@lns-bzn-21-82-64-74-36.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #portableapps 11:41:42 *** drag|zzZZ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:41:45 *** dragonmage (i=newdrago@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 12:11:15 Oooh... if I'm writing a function, should I resist Americanism and use centre as its name rather than center...? ;-) 12:13:47 I could do it the way SPATIALinfo did it... in their case, use colour, but to cater for American developers, set up color as an alias... 12:37:48 *** jnw222 (n=jnw222@64.18.122.30) has joined #portableapps 12:50:22 try: 12:50:22 answer_questions() 12:50:22 catch (MissedAQuestionException): 12:50:22 answer_questions_again() 12:50:22 finally: 12:50:22 panic() 12:51:10 -- http://portableapps.com/node/19188#comment-122784 12:52:58 OK, goodnight guys 12:53:10 That was a hard one... 12:57:21 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|zzzz 13:23:37 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 13:30:50 *** WastePotato has quit (Client Quit) 13:31:03 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 13:34:35 *** daBomb69 (n=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 13:39:00 *** daBomb69 has quit (Client Quit) 14:22:35 *** ChrisMorgan|zzzz has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:52:30 *** solanus (i=cfacefcf@gateway/web/freenode/x-cd0aa08cf20d9e9b) has joined #portableapps 15:00:24 *** solanus has quit ("Page closed") 15:11:20 *** pa_6383 (i=469522aa@gateway/web/freenode/x-548cec18fe2f820d) has joined #portableapps 15:12:08 does anyone know where i can get the previous version of the portable apps menu? 15:13:08 why, but sourceforge might 15:13:55 http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/# 15:14:16 scrool down to Portableapps.com Platform 15:15:29 thanks jnw222 15:16:36 why do you need one 15:17:25 i'm trying to test some of the skins i made 15:17:42 so i wanted to know if they'd workon a previous version 15:19:45 *** pa_6383 has quit ("Page closed") 15:19:46 ok 15:27:36 *** daBomb69 (n=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 15:34:10 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 15:35:49 *** Espreon has quit (Client Quit) 15:39:01 *** daBomb69 has quit () 15:39:56 *** daBomb69 (n=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 15:46:04 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:46:05 ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D 15:53:59 *** daBomb69 has quit ("Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)") 16:17:10 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 16:20:18 *** daBomb69 (n=daBomb69@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 16:21:14 *** daBomb69 has quit (Client Quit) 16:22:41 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 16:29:24 *** rcmaehl (n=rcmaehl@96-28-92-129.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 16:29:50 You guys should make like a simple OS for flash drives 16:30:36 rcmaehl: you mentioned this before 16:30:40 that's not what we do... 16:30:55 there are plenty of options out there for "portable" operating systems. 16:32:03 ok 16:33:18 a small linux distro is what i use (debian gnu/linux stripped to the bare necessities) 16:33:41 I just noticed something 16:34:03 the Onscreen Keyboard app doesn't have a FN key 16:34:04 rcmaehl: you can also use ubuntu, which actually has a portable install... 16:34:22 rcmaehl: that's because /most/ computers don't have them...they are native to laptopts 16:34:24 *laptops 16:34:26 not desktops. 16:34:47 I would be nice to have an options menu with the option for laptop keyboards 16:34:56 speed is a problem, if you accidently use usb 1.1, it can take like 6 minutes to boot 16:35:44 Also I have an idea for the new PAP 16:36:02 add a thing to show which programs are running 16:36:15 rcmaehl: post it in the forums 16:36:23 k 16:39:03 * rcmaehl pours a bucket of freezing cold water on Gizmokid2005 16:39:20 rcmaehl: -ot for stuff like that. 16:46:25 rcmaehl: You've been here long enough to know that off topic discussion (things not related to PortableApps.com) should be taken to #portableapps-ot 16:47:07 However I have seen some off-topic disscussions in here when support was not going on. 16:47:42 rcmaehl: yes, but not in that manner. and if it happens, it's quickly taken to -ot. Just because others don't follow the rules doesnt' mean you need to follow wuit. 16:47:44 *suit 16:48:43 k 17:14:01 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 17:23:05 *** rcmaehl2 (n=rcmaehl@96-28-92-129.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 17:23:36 *** rcmaehl has quit (Nick collision from services.) 17:23:45 *** rcmaehl2 is now known as rcmaehl 17:24:58 *** rcmaehl has parted #portableapps ("May the forks be with you!") 18:02:33 *** pa_3973 (i=18d02c77@gateway/web/freenode/x-7a3a789e4f797999) has joined #portableapps 18:03:48 is there a expresso program or not because i have searched through the forums and i keep finding Cafe Mod with comments saying that they are going to make it expresso, but that was in 2008 so i am wondering if they came out with it yet 18:04:48 pa_3973: nothing official, if you can't find it by searching, it's probably not there. 18:05:11 ok thanks for the confermation 18:05:20 *** pa_3973 has parted #portableapps () 18:11:00 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 18:11:01 Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com 18:25:47 *** Whibo has quit () 18:28:14 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 18:28:14 Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com 18:45:35 *** Whibo has quit () 18:50:45 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 18:50:45 Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com 18:50:58 hello Whibo, connection issues? lol 18:51:09 yep lol 18:51:45 now all is fine :) 19:02:37 *** Simeon (n=simeon@dslb-094-216-007-029.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 19:07:00 *** ptmb (i=5154c6e7@gateway/web/freenode/x-ebde100815e19193) has joined #portableapps 19:08:03 *** Simeon has quit ("Leaving.") 19:29:14 *** ptmb is now known as ptmb|away 19:44:23 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 19:45:59 *** RetLaw (n=RetLaw@082-146-105-101.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps 19:46:48 *** MaienM|Gone is now known as MaienM 19:48:02 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 19:48:03 ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D 19:53:25 *** Espreon has quit ("WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!") 19:58:10 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:09:31 *** daBomb69 (n=Compaq_O@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 20:12:17 *** Whibo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:16:54 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 20:16:54 Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com 20:20:27 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:22:40 *** ZerFEr has quit () 20:22:44 *** ptmb|away is now known as ptmb 20:24:18 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 20:24:19 ... 20:33:35 *** ZachThibeau has quit ("Leaving") 20:35:28 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 20:35:29 ZachThibeau is awsome and is working on a super cool media player with MaienM :D 20:45:45 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 20:58:33 *** Espreon has quit ("WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!") 21:05:40 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.242.47) has joined #portableapps 21:08:58 *** ve4jhj (n=ve4jhj@slkrmb01bbs-ac09-49-254.dial.mts.net) has joined #portableapps 21:10:01 *** ve4jhj has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 21:55:02 *** Oni-Neoxes (n=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 22:01:58 *** excid3 has quit ("Leaving") 22:05:12 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 22:06:09 night MaienM|Sleep 22:06:17 *** ChrisMorgan|zzzz (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 22:06:38 night Chris? or Hi Chris? 22:08:52 *** Don_Miguel (n=MichaelW@200.87.191.213) has joined #portableapps 22:10:07 *** Whibo has quit () 22:13:14 *** ptmb has quit ("Bye everybody") 22:13:21 *** ChrisMorgan|zzzz is now known as ChrisMorgan 22:13:38 I stayed logged in last night when using my laptop as a CD player :D 22:13:44 sweet! :P 22:13:58 Good morning :D 22:14:04 good... morning? 22:14:24 ChrisMorgan: what time are you in? 22:14:35 .t AEST 22:14:35 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:20:42 AEST 22:14:44 oh, Good morning :) 22:16:13 *** purple has quit ("Only two things are definite, Death and Format C:\") 22:19:43 hello ChrisMorgan 22:20:18 Hey ho Gizmokid2005 :-) 22:20:34 Gizmokid2005: I'm using a KVIrc 4 snapshot :-) 22:20:43 ChrisMorgan: good to hear :) liking it? 22:20:53 Can I get it to notify me on *all* messages, not just ones involving my nick? 22:21:08 in the notifier? 22:21:09 Once I'd cleaned up various settings, and especially the gucky background image, yes 22:21:11 ya 22:21:18 yes, and I know, the default background is horrid 22:21:18 I haven't found it, if it can be done. 22:21:30 go to Scripting, Event Editor 22:21:49 do you have anything under "OnChannelMessage" ? 22:22:37 Ahh, hadn't looked at scripting at all. 22:22:42 Yup 22:22:44 do you see it there? 22:22:49 No 22:22:53 No Event Editor. 22:22:55 if there's nothing there, right-click and select New Handler 22:23:00 (you may have to drag the bar over to see it 22:23:14 the even will be "OnChannelMessage" 22:24:01 after you create a new handler, just put in this code: notifier.message $0:" "$3; 22:24:19 The Scripting menu only has the following entries: /Edit (Actions|Aliases|(Raw )?Events|Popups)\.\.\.|Script Tester|Execute Script|Restore Default Script/ 22:24:20 where anything after notifier.messsage you can customize, and the ; is the line end 22:24:26 No Script Editor. 22:24:30 edit actions 22:24:31 "Edit Popups"? 22:24:33 K 22:24:36 eChrisMorgan: rm 22:24:36 no 22:24:37 event 22:24:41 lol 22:24:43 events not actions 22:24:49 then you should see OnChannelMessage 22:25:06 OK, got it 22:25:19 then do as above and it will work :) 22:25:23 that was one of the first things I changed too :) 22:25:42 The other thing I don't like is the fact that you can't use Ctrl+Tab or Ctrl+Page (Up|Down) properly 22:26:02 It's got that horrible MDI concept which while potentially useful, hasn't had switching implemented properly. 22:26:10 nope, at this point it's ALT+left/right arrow 22:26:18 Ahhhh... thanks :-) 22:26:22 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("I QUIT D:<") 22:26:25 Happy now :-) 22:26:27 right, remember, the snapshots have work left to be done on them, but it's going :) 22:26:32 yw 22:30:52 Where has that New Handler gone... 22:31:33 you hit apply at the bottom before OK right? 22:31:46 (I'm not sure if it's a requirement, but that's a failsafe I always use 22:31:49 I've never found the New Handler thing. 22:32:02 I've found that Apply in the preferences window makes it crash often... 22:32:11 it can happen 22:32:16 ok, lets go from the beginning to be safe 22:32:21 you are in the event editor correct? 22:32:38 Y 22:32:48 find "OnChannelMessage" ? 22:32:51 Click on OnChannelMessage. 22:32:53 Yes 22:33:05 right-click it, then hit "New Handler" 22:33:27 ahhh... on the OnChannelMessage bit, not the content. OK, got it now, thanks :-) 22:33:38 yep :) 22:33:52 Please say something :-) 22:33:53 it's a little hard to handle at first, but once you understand it's a breeze. 22:34:15 Thanks :-) 22:34:49 Other ones appear as I've set it up - bold, with <> around it. Any way of replicating that (not that it matters)? 22:35:10 I don't quite follow. 22:35:39 I set nicks to display bold, and the default theme puts <> around them. 22:35:51 The popup for my name mentioned also has that. 22:36:06 Hmm, you want that in the notifier? 22:36:17 Doesn't really matter. 22:36:19 I am not sure of a way to do that, you can try #kvirc 22:36:26 I know of no immediate way to change that 22:36:32 Is there some way I can also make it *not* display it if I'm in the window? 22:36:50 Let me see... so I should be able to add an OnMeAway to deop me here? 22:37:15 *** RetLaw has quit (Success) 22:37:16 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@135-181.mc.royaume.com) has joined #portableapps 22:37:16 Whibo is a french translator of PortableApps.com 22:37:46 you can set the onmeaway to do that yes, as for the notifier, maybe, but I haven't attempted to figure it out. I'm sure it could be scripted though. 22:38:05 I'll see... first up, find documentation :-) 22:38:19 Help > Help Browser (Window) 22:41:50 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:42:13 :( 22:42:17 :'( 22:42:26 O_o 22:42:42 you killed him Gizmokid2005 22:42:45 D: 22:42:47 I didn't 22:42:48 lol jk 22:42:57 *** ChrisMorgan (n=Chris@c114-76-46-28.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 22:42:57 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com Developer (BPBible, Inkscape et al), currently involved with work on the PortableApps.com Launcher. 22:43:08 ChrisMorgan: your alive! :D 22:43:17 wb ChrisMorgan 22:43:30 if you find crashes, you can check with their IRC channel, and report them too :) 22:43:48 How did you guess it was find? 22:44:04 no no, if you FIND crashes... 22:44:04 lol 22:44:22 Well it was... pressed Ctrl+F in the help, that took me to this channel, pressed it again, that opened the find window, I pressed the X on it, KVIrc crashed. 22:44:31 odd 22:49:49 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|Away 22:50:13 Good, going away now deops me on #bpbible, #portableapps and #portableapps-dev, and coming back... 22:50:15 *** ChrisMorgan|Away is now known as ChrisMorgan 22:50:30 Didn't reop me..? 22:50:34 ... 22:50:55 oh, I know, it'll be the wrong nick... 22:52:27 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|test 22:52:43 ChrisMorgan|test: how are you setting it? 22:53:10 I was using msg ChanServ op #portableapps ChrisMorgan, but it'll be ChrisMorgan|Away at the time... 22:53:26 So I'm just working out the !@ statement I need to use 22:53:38 you should be able to use $my.nick I think. 22:53:46 ... whoops :P 22:53:53 yup 22:54:45 *** ChrisMorgan|test is now known as ChrisMorgan|Away 22:54:48 *** ChrisMorgan|Away is now known as ChrisMorgan|test 22:54:54 :S 22:55:09 *** ChrisMorgan|test is now known as ChrisMorgan 22:55:14 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|Away 22:55:28 It's stopped fixing my opship... 22:55:32 And my nick 22:55:39 how are you going away? 22:55:44 //away 22:55:57 Should I do it a different way? 22:55:59 btw - you can set Kvirc to automatically change your nick when you go away in the settings. 22:56:03 I have 22:56:07 and then just do the op/deop in the scripting 22:56:12 do it like so 22:56:14 I have... 22:56:21 *** pa_8102 (i=8253f6be@gateway/web/freenode/x-52476bfb8d4cfa95) has joined #portableapps 22:56:24 in the OnMeAway just to deop $my.nick 22:56:28 Hello pa_8102 22:56:31 hi 22:56:38 How can we help you? 22:56:40 i have got a question 22:56:43 on the OnMeBack just do cs op #portableapps $my.nick 22:56:48 pa_8102: ok 22:57:10 do portable apps support vista 64bit os? 22:57:30 pa_8102: yes 22:57:41 *** daBomb69 has parted #portableapps () 22:57:44 i hava changed my system and now i cannot start the applications any more 22:57:46 *** daBomb69 (n=Compaq_O@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 22:57:52 do you get an error pa_8102? 22:57:56 no 22:58:14 vista simply says that the version is for 32bit OS 22:58:30 !? 22:58:45 There's nothing to stop them from running on x86-64. 22:58:59 *** ChrisMorgan|Away is now known as ChrisMorgan 22:59:10 ok 22:59:16 I have never had Vista 64 refuse to run a 32-bit app. 22:59:19 but it doesnt work for me 22:59:35 perhaps i have an older version of the suite 22:59:43 My Dad, with his WaterSums software, has had some troubles with DLLs etc. but never anything refusing to run. 23:00:01 (He uses Vista Ultimate 64-bit, I've got Vista Business 32-bit) 23:00:06 What version have you got? 23:00:09 1.5.2 is the latest. 23:00:27 i will try to export my thunderbird data and reimport in a new verionb 23:00:36 pa_8102: it might be your profile 23:00:38 There's no need to do that. 23:00:44 try running tbp without your data 23:00:50 i cant tell pu, they dont start 23:00:57 Feel free to make a copy of it, for backup, then update to the latest version. 23:01:02 cant tell which version 23:01:12 Well when did you update last? 23:01:23 Is it just Thunderbird, or are you using the whole suite? 23:01:30 thunderbird i updated a week ago 23:01:42 no the suite wont start 23:01:48 With itself, or with the latest version from PortableApps.com 23:01:49 ? 23:02:09 i dint try starting tb 23:02:16 Ahh. 23:02:26 Have you updated the PortableApps.com Platform recently? 23:02:30 now i make a backup 23:02:32 no 23:02:37 not since installed 23:02:44 If not, download the latest version from http://PortableApps.com/suite and try it. 23:02:57 ok, ill try :) 23:03:30 You probably just want the platform (to start with at least). 23:03:41 Or you could do one of the suites and update more apps at once. 23:03:52 but first i hace to start in a 32bit os, or is there another way of updating it? 23:04:06 Try downloading them and running them. 23:04:12 ok 23:04:15 one moment 23:04:25 I've never seen any trouble with a 64-bit OS, have you changed something in it? 23:07:03 *** _newbie_ (n=daBomb69@bb-128-127.omnitelcom.com) has joined #portableapps 23:07:40 Greetings _newbie_, trying out KVIrc are you? 23:07:49 *** Don_Miguel has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:07:58 ok, new version works fine 23:08:08 Good :-) 23:08:12 pa_8102: you might've had some corrupted files 23:08:20 now i will try to find a solution for the data transfer 23:08:30 *** daBomb69 has quit (Nick collision from services.) 23:08:36 *** _newbie_ is now known as daBomb69 23:08:42 possible 23:08:59 Data transfer? 23:09:35 i dint mind about updating the plattform since there is no message reminding me 23:09:47 the transfer of the tb data 23:09:52 K. 23:10:01 thanks for your help :) 23:10:12 Just use the PortableApps.com Backup tool, or copy ThunderbirdPortable\Data to get just Thunderbird data. 23:11:06 pa_8102: you might find the PortableApps.com Updater useful; it's currently in Beta, but pretty good. http://portableapps.com/node/16779 23:11:48 ok, now i just have to wait till my mails are copied from the stick (2GB) 23:14:20 now i use portable apps since the beginning and i dont know all the features yet 23:15:09 cool 23:15:35 tb seems to work 23:16:54 *** Aerobender (n=Dieter@user-12l2mgl.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #portableapps 23:17:05 can i update the suite w/o running it? 23:17:32 *** Aerobender has parted #portableapps () 23:18:10 OK, i´ve fixed it, thanks for help 23:18:32 Good :-) 23:19:07 how can i update the platform? 23:19:38