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08:39:11 I'm fine tonight 08:39:17 thats good 08:39:21 Chazz, its early early morning for us :P 08:39:22 it;s tonight? :/ 08:39:26 SergentSiler, i know 08:39:37 so why did you say afternoon? :P 08:39:50 SergentSiler, cause i thought it was afternoon there 08:39:56 i was close 08:39:56 lol 08:40:06 Chazz: your time? 08:40:15 3:50 AM 08:40:18 .t est 08:40:19 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:50:30 EST 08:40:23 grr 08:40:32 .t cest 08:40:32 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:50:44 CEST 08:40:35 no 08:40:38 what is it >_> 08:40:38 Chazz: what are you doing up at this time!? 08:40:49 ChrisMorgan, coding :/ 08:41:14 Why at this (that) time of night!? 08:41:33 excellant question! :) 08:41:40 Answer it then :) 08:41:50 lol 08:42:02 well, it took me all of today to fix my computer, so i've only had three hours to code 08:42:11 What're you doing? 08:42:22 And what was wrong with it? 08:42:31 coding an IRC bot, which was suposed to be released about 2 monthes ago 08:42:37 and, i wish i knew 08:42:57 Well my diagnosis is that you are the problem. 08:43:00 You need sleep. 08:43:02 :-) 08:43:02 * Chazz also shld get a bit more of Perl Portable done. 08:43:07 Dr. Chris has spoken :-) 08:43:17 ChrisMorgan, i'll go to sleep around 7 AM :P 08:43:19 Chazz also shld get a lot more of sleep done. 08:43:27 yarly 08:43:41 btw, ChrisMorgan pm please? 08:44:10 Well I'm doing homework ATM... you can try though... 08:44:17 ok 08:45:48 wait, homework! 08:46:02 isn't it still summer there? 08:46:46 Mid-winter... 08:50:37 *** purple has quit ("Only two things are definite, Death and Format C:\") 08:50:44 oh ya, your southern hemesphere, right? 08:51:07 Very :-) 08:51:15 ah, cool! 08:52:16 lol 08:52:30 * Chazz is jelous 08:56:01 What of? 08:56:11 the southern hemisphere 08:56:19 Why? 08:56:37 its funner than where i live 08:56:45 Where's that? 08:56:50 states 08:56:54 Iowa, USA 08:56:59 Don't blame you... :D 08:57:00 :/ 08:57:06 lol 08:57:10 we have corn, corn, and more corn 08:57:16 XD 08:57:49 and thats about it 08:57:55 You mean that you have corns ;-) 08:57:59 lol 08:58:01 at least its tasty :P 08:58:14 SergentSiler, not always 08:58:17 lol 08:58:36 Well corn chips are nice... 08:58:43 yes :) 08:58:50 fritos ftw 08:59:21 Chazz, u can also make ethanol with that :P 08:59:45 SergentSiler, we have like, 1 ethanol plant per 10 miles 08:59:55 lololololololololololllll 09:00:25 and they're ALL using more fossil fules to make the ethanol than we're saving by using it 09:00:38 lol 09:22:06 *** MaienM (n=MaienM@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 09:25:09 *** MaienM has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:28:59 *** MaienM (n=MaienM@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 09:29:32 ChrisMorgan, perhaps move this to general or off-topic forum section http://portableapps.com/node/20229 <-- 09:29:45 cause it's deffinately not an app request 09:35:51 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:36:25 :/ 09:36:38 lol 09:36:52 the spam killed chris :'( 09:37:32 lol 09:39:24 *** MaienM has quit ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.") 09:39:53 the spam killed MaienM too :/ 09:40:06 lol 09:40:16 who will die next? 09:41:35 SergentSiler, don't click it! 09:41:39 you will die! 09:42:02 lol 09:42:26 * Chazz goes off and tells Chuck Norris to click it 09:42:48 Cut it with the Tool Saw 09:43:09 crap... wrong tab :/ 10:09:09 *** Evoel (i=evol@cpe-98-154-1-242.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 10:09:14 hi 10:09:20 there's a problem with portableApps.com stuff 10:09:31 whats wrong with it? 10:09:48 every program causes the mouse cursor to turn into "busy cursor" for like 5 seconds 10:09:52 for no reason 10:10:09 even on the most simplistic program that loads instantly, like OnScreenKeyboardPortable 10:10:52 and while the mouse cursor is "busy cursor" for 5 seconds, it's not doing anything. I checked process monitor, there's no disk or registry access, and the program isnt even doing anything, and it's fully ready to use 10:11:20 the 5 second cursor is just a mistake, it's not a "real" busy 10:12:02 i'm pretty sure thats just an NSIS thing 10:12:27 i avoid all PortableApps.com stuff and make the portable myself cause i hate that cursor so much 10:12:42 ... 10:13:04 because there should be no consequences to it being portable 10:13:13 just because its portable doesnt mean it has to have nasty busy cursors that sit there 10:13:15 that is retarded 10:13:20 it ruins the program 10:13:52 i cant get my mind around it, it's no longer a "fast clean small program" 10:14:04 it's a "crappy portableapps thing with cursor delays" 10:15:11 also, if you enable the splash screen on portableapps stuff, then there's no 5 second busy cursor 10:15:50 *** Evoeel (i=evol@cpe-98-154-1-242.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 10:15:50 *** Evoel has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:16:02 i'm sorry.. what did I say last? 10:26:41 *** MaienM (n=MaienM@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 10:32:53 *** sergentss (i=sergents@support.team.at.shellium.org) has joined #portableapps 10:57:44 *** Horusofoz (n=Administ@219-90-225-232.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 10:57:54 Hey guys :) 10:58:11 *** abc528 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:58:37 Can anyone tell me how to set up a Google calendar in Thunderbird that I can access offline? 11:03:49 ?? 11:03:50 *** SergentSiler has quit ("Siler Out") 11:04:12 *** SrgSiler (i=sergents@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 11:04:54 *** SrgSiler is now known as SergentSiler 11:09:41 *** Horusofoz1 (n=Administ@219-90-225-232.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 11:10:10 *** Horusofoz1 has parted #portableapps () 11:23:36 *** sergentss has quit ("ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net") 11:28:34 *** Horusofoz has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:32:53 *** Evoeel has quit () 11:41:54 *** abc528 (n=abc528@lns-bzn-31-82-252-247-198.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #portableapps 11:44:29 *** Chazz has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:35:07 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 12:35:57 *** Whibo|Bed is now known as Whibo 12:39:39 *** Whibo has quit () 12:40:51 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@unaffiliated/whibo) has joined #portableapps 12:50:47 *** jnw222 (n=jnw222@64-18-122-30.adsl.catt.com) has joined #portableapps 12:56:20 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 12:59:36 *** Whibo has quit (Success) 12:59:59 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@unaffiliated/whibo) has joined #portableapps 13:13:22 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSile|AFK 13:13:34 *** SrgSile|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 13:20:07 *** Whibo is now known as Whibo|AFK 13:43:07 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 14:01:29 *** drag|away is now known as dragonmage 14:21:36 *** Whibo|AFK has quit () 14:21:53 *** Guest41450 (i=EliteMaf@unaffiliated/whibo) has joined #portableapps 14:23:10 *** Guest41450 is now known as Whibo 14:24:11 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 14:37:30 test test 14:40:33 test 14:40:36 :P 14:40:37 hello Whibo 14:40:43 hello 14:40:47 :) 14:41:08 /znc playbuffer #portableapps 14:41:10 :p 14:41:35 i'll be online all the time now 14:41:38 :p 14:41:39 lol 14:41:41 ok 14:42:11 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 14:45:32 can you tell me somethin 14:45:40 I can try 14:46:10 in 5 sec tell me if i'm away and pm me. i'll be away 15 sec 14:46:12 3 14:46:14 2 14:46:15 1 14:46:52 and? 14:46:58 was i away? 14:47:00 Yup, it changed 14:47:04 cool 14:47:08 kvirc must not update real time, but you did go away 14:47:14 it said somethin? 14:47:28 can you pm me 14:57:59 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 15:07:18 *** Suiseiseki (n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 15:11:03 *** andreasma (n=andi@p4FE356C7.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 15:27:17 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:27:42 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 15:28:02 *** ZerFEr (n=ZerFEr@217.194.116.85.dsl.manitu.net) has joined #portableapps 15:45:25 *** gluxon (n=gluxon@c-71-234-109-246.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:55:09 *** pa_8051 (i=816b5ca9@gateway/web/freenode/session) has joined #portableapps 15:55:18 *** Aerobender (n=Dieter@user-12l2mgl.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #portableapps 15:55:19 *** Aerobender has parted #portableapps () 15:55:55 can someone help add shortcut links to the portable apps quickstart menu? 15:56:12 you mean the platform? 15:56:36 if so just read this http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps 15:56:57 it's also good to bookmark that too for reference :) 15:57:24 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 15:58:05 I guess the file has to be an executable file in order for portableapps to show it in the apps start menu? 15:58:19 I would like to just add a .ink shortcut file 15:58:37 ink shortcuts will not pickup in the platform 15:58:46 okay ... thank you. 15:59:09 np 16:04:44 *** pa_8051 has quit ("Page closed") 16:23:29 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 16:23:37 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:29:10 *** Twinkletoes|W (n=chatzill@izb6d318.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 16:42:07 O.M.G... 16:42:14 My site's been spammed... 16:42:15 :( 16:42:38 gluxon: at least it wasn't hacked :( 16:42:59 But I have 134 users :D 16:42:59 Too bad 131 of them are robots! :( 16:43:02 ... 16:43:03 :( 16:44:31 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 16:44:35 hola 16:44:40 Hey JohnTHaller :) 16:44:54 *** kai_62656 (n=unknown@68-118-64-169.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 16:45:37 SongbirdPortable DT3 will be up shortly 16:47:19 cool beans 16:47:54 :D 16:47:59 :P 16:48:03 FINALLY got the hex editing figured out, so everything should work seamlessly :) And I verified my ReadEvnVar against your CoolPlayer+ launcher and it seems its right :) 16:49:58 omg kai_62656 O_O 16:50:02 *** kai_62656 is now known as kai_62656|away 16:50:06 D: 16:50:11 SergentSiler: : ? 16:50:16 OHAI 16:50:21 ?...? 16:50:28 long time no see >_> 16:50:33 orly? 16:50:39 * SergentSiler waves hello to JTH 16:51:01 howdy 16:51:54 Updated: Songbird Portable 1.2 DT3: http://portableapps.com/node/19953 16:51:55 :D 16:52:36 *** kai_62656|away is now known as kai_62656 16:53:14 Gizmokid2005: So, does this fix all known issues? 16:54:10 JohnTHaller: Yep. The only outstanding issue I had, was the watch folders complaining at startup, because of an issue with the .tree hex file not being updated. This fixes that in my testing, and I'm not aware of any other issues. 16:54:31 Suweet! 16:54:35 I know! 16:54:48 JohnTHaller: that's a first for PortableApps isn't it? Messing with hex files in a launcher? 16:55:53 I thought I did it with something else before, but I can't remember now. 16:56:25 yeah, i did some searching in quite a few launchers but hadn't found anything. So it was a learning experience for sure, I put one of the guys to use at the NSIS forums :) They were a HUGE help on it :0 16:56:26 *:) 16:56:40 I'm curious to see how many downloads this gets. 16:56:57 since we have 753 of DT1 & 2 combined already. 16:57:49 If it works welll, we may just go right to final instead of doing a pre-release. This has gotten a lot of testing already and there's a lot of interest in it. 16:58:35 sounds good to me. Lots of late nights in this one, and I know, at least for myself, I LOVE using Songbird so. 17:04:45 Oops, gotta update the MD5 17:06:54 howdy JohnTHaller didn't see you come in :) 17:09:27 *** AppGuy has quit ("Leaving") 17:09:59 i'm wearing quiet shoes 17:10:55 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 17:11:03 well I was kind of napping it's been a long week for me, twas pulling late shifts at work and staying up at night and getting some applications tested so we can get more apps in pre-release stage 17:11:29 I figured I'm on the team, I should start pulling my weight and get things done 17:12:53 gluxon: I'm currently pulling eclipse apart and giving it a thorough run through :P 17:14:33 and on top of that I'm working on a text editor that pulls the best features of Notepad2 and Notepad++ in C++ just to give me something of a crash course in c++ 17:17:01 *** pa_6776 (i=c677382b@gateway/web/freenode/session) has joined #portableapps 17:17:13 howdy pa_6776 how can we assist you today 17:17:50 hey :) im just wondering is there anyway to automatically update PortableApps' apps? 17:18:10 JohnTHaller: I think this maybe a good one for you to answer 17:20:03 hmm must be away from the pc, anyways pa_6776 there is a way but at this moment our updater is on hold until the new version of the platform is done 17:20:35 there is an old copy of the updater you can try though http://portableapps.com/node/16779 17:21:58 I see :) Just curious - what do you use to code PortableApps? (And do you use NSIS for the installers?) 17:22:41 we use nsis for the launchers and the installers 17:22:53 the platform itself though is written in delpho 17:22:55 **delphi 17:22:57 *** ZerFEr has quit ("Verlassend") 17:23:28 What about the updater? Is it coded in Delphi? 17:23:30 *** Aerobender (n=Dieter@user-12l2mgl.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #portableapps 17:23:30 The updater will be in Beta 4. I can repost the screenshots here if you're curious. 17:23:57 pa_6776: the updater itself at least the outdated one is written in NSIS 17:24:28 the new one is for now as well, too. it will probably switch to delphi around platform 2.5 17:24:59 I believe MaienM is writting one himself (IIRC) using c++ and the WxWidgets toolkit 17:26:01 I see. I'm not a Delphi person. :) 17:26:38 it's relatively easy actually, I got into it pretty quickly myself, but I'm more of a c++ guy :P 17:26:41 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 17:27:39 Here's what it looks like: http://portableapps.com/temp/PortableApps.comUpdaterPreview2.png 17:27:59 It can add new apps, too: http://portableapps.com/temp/PortableApps.comUpdaterAddPreview2.png 17:29:00 Looks good! Looking forward to new features from the devs :) 17:29:24 :) 17:29:33 Can I code a Python program to do installation and updates? 17:29:40 Beta 4 should land this week. I'm working on it now. While my PC is busy packaging Thunderbird Portable 3 Beta 3 for release. 17:30:23 Python is a little trickier unless you compile it (Py2Exe). Though we're working with some of the Python folks to make Python available at the platform level to Python apps. 17:31:01 That's what I'm going to do. It's not that bad, really. I've done it before with some scripts I wrote. 17:31:47 pa_6776: I got a friend I shoudl show you :P he's writting a program like that but for linux distrobutions and the program is called keryx 17:32:08 I was actually hoping Py2Exe would have the dependencies bundled in, but only Linux (and Mac??) can do it. :P 17:32:09 and it's written in python too 17:32:34 Keryx? Does it bundle Python scripts to executables? 17:33:28 go to #keryx and ask :) the guy you want is excid3 or if he isn't there look for a crashsystems those guys are the main devs behind keryx 17:35:10 A Google search leads me to this: http://keryxproject.org/ Is that it? 17:35:27 yes thats their main site 17:36:00 #keryx is their channel on freenode where they are on most of the time :) 17:36:04 Looks interesting. I'll talk to the dev(s) soon. :) 17:36:12 cool 17:36:27 maybe they can give you some insights on how to code your updater :) 17:36:42 Anyway, tonight (EST) I will start writing the updater for PortableApps. :) 17:36:49 Is there any "API" of some sort? 17:37:24 well our updater pullls an ini file John maintains which point to the latest release files 17:38:20 pa_6776: We really don't need another updater, to be honest, as the NSIS one will be the official one as of the 2.0 release and we'll probably switch to Delphi later. I mean, you could do it as an exercise, but it'll probably be used by one of the other portable projects that isn't so respectful of the GPL :-( 17:39:24 Oh. If you're not going to use it, then I won't make it. :) I certainly don't want the other non-GPL projects to use my code. 17:40:23 How small you think you could get it in Python, btw... compiled I mean? 17:41:09 Honestly, I like Python and can code it in well (as opposed to, say, C++, where I currently fail). I'd consider switching to it if it were something nice and tight that worked well, was a small build size and could be compiled for Linux or Mac, for instance. 17:41:42 Python binaries (if compiled Py2Exe) can be "small" - but add the other loads of dependencies on the side and then it get's big. :( 17:41:59 **(if compiled with Py2Exe) 17:42:20 wxWidgets is great toolkit, but it's kinda big. 17:42:43 though C++ with Wxwidgets isn't too bad though 17:42:52 *** pa_6205 (i=7aa81010@gateway/web/freenode/x-04d5e98b789e6813) has joined #portableapps 17:42:54 using the visual studio compiler though 17:43:05 mingw makes the exe a little bigger 17:43:29 but either way it would be about 4megs uncompressed 17:43:37 PyGTK is another toolkit option, but the GUI makes Windows XP look new. 17:43:37 hi 17:43:50 Hi. 17:44:02 *** pa_6205 has quit (Client Quit) 17:44:09 pa_6205: howdy how can we assist... nm 17:44:57 Ah ok. I've been debating switching to WxWidgets and C++ (and improving my skills) as we could be cross-platform. And I'll shut up at the moment in case our new guest needs some assistance. 17:45:08 Yes! 17:45:09 JohnTHaller: the new guest left 17:45:13 Do that! 17:45:14 :D 17:45:32 But wouldn't you have to reprogram the menu? 17:45:37 *** firefox (i=7aa81010@gateway/web/freenode/x-9f4c8ea9ba87b5c2) has joined #portableapps 17:45:45 ... Hi firefox... 17:45:48 JohnTHaller: and if you do want to switch to wxwidgets and C++ MaienM and I would be willing to help as well as Steve Lamerton since we program in WxWidgets and C++ 17:45:59 ... so do i... 17:46:16 any body can solve my firefox prblm 17:46:29 what is it? 17:47:01 i want to change firefox portabe image 17:47:10 The splash screen? 17:47:14 you mean the splash screen? 17:47:14 ya 17:47:19 Ok. 17:47:25 i tried but didnt succed 17:47:25 you would need to recompile the launcher to do that 17:47:28 I'll give you step by step instructions. 17:47:33 ok 17:47:36 Do you have NSIS Portable? 17:48:21 i never used it 17:48:32 but recently i downloded it 17:48:37 nice nick firefox 17:48:39 K. 17:48:46 tnx 17:48:55 Yeah, how in the world were you able to take that.. 17:48:59 I heard that name before... 17:49:00 nw tell me gluxon 17:49:01 before anybody else... 17:49:03 K. 17:49:07 Open up NSIS Portable. 17:49:12 ok 17:49:23 And the X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\Other\Source folder. 17:49:26 X: as your drive. 17:49:39 ok 17:49:50 You have the picture you want right? 17:49:58 ya 17:50:04 K. 17:50:21 Rename it to FirefoxPortable.jpg 17:50:27 ok 17:50:32 same i did 17:50:39 And overwrite the Other FirefoxPortable.jpg in the Source folder. 17:50:42 firefox: Just to note, if you want you can just disable it by copying the FirefoxPortable.ini file from Other\Source to the FirefoxPortable directory and changing DisableSplash=true in it. Also, if you change or disable the splash, you can't make that version available online to others. 17:50:42 but notings happens 17:51:16 firefox: Yeah, nothing should chang.e 17:51:21 Before you recompile. 17:51:25 NSIS Portable is open? 17:51:25 ya i want top use it for personal 17:51:33 k. 17:51:41 ok 17:52:04 In the NSIS menu, under "Compile" click on "Compile NSI Scripts" 17:52:55 den 17:53:26 The compiler opened up? 17:53:33 ok 17:53:42 u tell fastly i did it later 17:54:27 gluxon 17:54:34 sorry. 17:54:38 wat 17:54:44 K. 17:54:52 Drag FirefoxPortable.nsi into the log. 17:55:22 k 17:55:59 Did you get any errors? 17:56:33 i m not doing it 17:56:44 i performed it llater 17:57:02 ? 17:57:14 That's what you have to do to change the Splash. 17:58:14 ok 17:58:43 if i get prblm hw i contact u 17:58:49 bcheng.gt@gmail.com 17:58:58 or you could send me the pic and I'd do it. 17:59:22 or send me the procedure 17:59:27 K. 17:59:28 video 17:59:32 video? 17:59:34 Ok. 17:59:40 What format? 17:59:44 Or does it matter? 17:59:53 no 17:59:59 k. 18:00:01 .swf. 18:00:03 any popu;lar format 18:00:04 ok 18:00:15 this is my mail id 18:00:30 pushprajchauhan@gmail.com 18:00:37 k. 18:00:39 I'll start now. 18:01:22 ok 18:01:51 mail me pls i will c it later here is night i m going to sleep 18:02:03 tnx for ur support 18:02:39 *** firefox has quit ("Page closed") 18:06:41 well I got a very basic frame with a list control, a url to visit portableapps.com, working on retrieving the applications list now :) 18:08:26 Hmmm.... Py2Exe doesn't sound too bad! :) See here: http://wiki.wxpython.org/SmallApp 18:08:42 Only 6 MB, 3MB packed (NSIS). 18:09:12 Yeah. But the NSIS updater is 141KB. 18:09:39 Trying to keep the platform as small as possible. Without 20 different EXEs for each function and bloated bits. 18:10:02 Menu is 352K, Backup is 159K, Restore is 148K 18:10:25 yeah the nsis is probably the simplist to go with my compiled version with just my frame using mingw though is about 3megs without compressing 18:11:01 nsis or delphi 18:11:57 Wow... that's really small. 18:12:12 If only Python could be a little smaller..... 18:13:21 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 18:13:23 how big are the py scripts without compiling em? 18:13:34 (is sans the normal python libraries?) 18:15:13 I'm not too sure.... 18:15:31 And the python script from the example site is 241 lines long. 18:15:45 *** kai_62656 has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:16:46 JohnTHaller: if it helps to guage at all, I think all of pabot/gizmobot's python uncompiled files for all it's functions are in the range of 100-200kb, and it's a lot there. 18:17:41 and thats without any gui toolkit for python though 18:18:00 so probably maybe 300-400kb possibly 18:18:14 ish 18:18:38 where is excid3 where you need him >_< 18:18:55 The only reason it explodes to 3-6 MB is because of the GUI toolkit library (wxWidgets). :P 18:19:27 ah 18:19:33 or in c++ it's related to compiler too 18:19:45 in essence optimization 18:21:19 * ZachThibeau should see about modifying mingw and see if he can get it more optimized, be a bold move but maybe too much to try :/ 18:21:43 *** ZerFEr (n=ZerFEr@217.194.116.85.dsl.manitu.net) has joined #portableapps 18:22:18 And that would be crazy to do. Compilers are something you don't want to mess with. :P 18:22:41 There is, however, some optimization flags (options) you can set for GCC/G++. 18:23:17 yes but end result will still be bigger than an exe compiled in visual studio 18:23:47 and thats because it's has more attention 18:27:11 RELEASE: Thunderbird Portable 3 Beta 3: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-08-05_-_thunderbird_portable_3_beta_3 18:27:57 yay :D 18:29:39 yay 18:29:45 Yippe! :) 18:30:02 @ZachThibeau: Did you try stripping the binary? 18:30:13 compressed with upx 18:30:14 The command is: "strip [file]" 18:30:24 No, no no..... 18:30:33 Strip it first, then upx it..... 18:30:43 (or maybe UPX already does that....) 18:32:18 hmm not bad 18:32:33 600kb after stipping and upx'ing the file 18:33:20 *** Chazz (n=Chazz@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 18:33:34 I'll have to keep that in mind for my other projects then :) 18:33:36 Stripping removes unnecessary debugging symbols, which you want, unless you are debugging it. 18:33:56 How much space is the VC++ build? 18:34:22 I can't remember, I don't have wxwidgets integrated into visual studio anymore 18:34:38 been migrating to mingw for everything 18:36:12 Keep the strip command in mind. 18:36:24 And btw, do you have Make installed? 18:37:02 mingw32-make which is essentially the same 18:37:29 Yeah, I know. 18:38:00 You should use it. If you are going a c++ build, I'm thinking you would have multiple files, right? 18:38:20 but I'm using an IDE for my projects 18:38:24 Codeblocks FTW :D 18:38:52 Oh. Then that works too. :) 18:39:14 Isn't there an option to strip binaries in Codeblocks? 18:40:08 idk :/ if not it should be easy to do anyways 18:43:32 Read this: http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/windows/3430/ and this: http://www.mingw.org/wiki/Large_executables 18:43:48 Especially follow the mingw.org instructions. That will help a bit. :) 18:43:56 *** MaienM has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:50:06 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 18:53:47 *** pa_6776 is now known as jimhap 18:57:25 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 18:58:03 well jimhap thank you very much for the help :) 19:03:15 What's the size now? :) 19:03:24 well 678kb :) 19:03:37 very respectable size :) 19:03:54 Not UPXed? 19:04:03 upx'd included 19:04:45 I'm not good at C++, so I'll just stick to Python and shrink the binary. :) 19:05:19 O_O I did this to a svn compile of visualboyadvance-m and wow it's executing faster :D 19:05:50 and this is a visual studio compiled exe :P 19:07:09 The strip command is wonderful. :) 19:07:14 yes it is :) 19:07:26 especially in unison with upx :) 19:07:39 If you build wxWidgets by hand (or GTK), by default they ALWAYS strip. No UPX though. :) 19:09:30 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@173.87.124.13) has joined #portableapps 19:10:44 speaking of which I need to finish a front end to the vba-m sdl binary for qwertymodo, I'm doing the front end as the mfc version is highly dependant on directx dlls that not all systems will have included 19:12:06 yeah I'm a fan of WxWidgets :) I love the fact every app I code with it (using only the generic components in the library) will be compilable in most operating systems without change :) 19:12:43 True. :) (And why DirectX? OpenGL is better! :) ) 19:13:26 *** AppGuy has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:13:27 Actually, OpenGL stuff dies alot if the GFX card doesn't have a GL command. :P 19:13:29 well it supports opengl but the project still requires directx installed if you want to even just run it 19:13:51 *** AppGuy (n=AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 19:13:53 That's not good - it's one way or another. 19:14:47 yeah but thankfully they have an sdl binary that compiles on linux and windows that uses only opengl but there isn't really much of a front end to it so I'm making one for the developer of vba-mportable 19:15:47 oddly enough though >_< I'm on the vba-m team 19:15:59 not a dev though more or less forum administration 19:18:05 though I have thought about porting vba-m to wxwidgets to give it a universal gui that supports major operating systems 19:27:03 What's your email address? I'm about to jump ship, and I won't be back for a week. 19:28:00 mine is zachary.thibeau@gmail.com 19:29:10 OK. Mine: jimmyhappyi@gmail.com :) 19:29:30 cool 19:29:41 just added you 19:30:32 And btw, I mean like not back to this IRC, since my laptop at home is rendering some 3D scenes, and I can't touch it. :P 19:30:45 np 19:30:55 and now, both of your emails have been engraved into the portableapps logs forever... 19:30:58 good thing I have 4 computers :P 19:31:06 Chazz: not the first time for me :P 19:31:12 lol 19:31:15 Logs? Ahh! ;) 19:31:18 nice :P 19:31:27 Hopefully I don't get any spam... :) 19:31:36 lol 19:31:52 into the pa.c logs FOREVER 19:32:03 Oh well, it won't make a difference anyway, 1,500 spam mails this month. 19:32:08 wow... 19:32:41 I will probably start by DDoSing those spambots :P 19:33:00 wow i only get 700 spam messages a MONTH 19:33:02 @Zach: Are those PCs fast? 19:33:11 That USED to be my number. 19:33:19 Then things suddenly got bigger. :P 19:33:34 jimhap: they are decent enough, 2gigs on my laptop and 1 gig on each laptop all cpus at 2ghz each 19:34:05 Wow..... can I steal some CPU time? 19:34:07 *** ZerFEr has quit ("Verlassend") 19:34:37 My laptop is the best in the house - 1Ghz, Intel Celeron. 19:35:02 no sorry :P got stuff running on them like a couple of servers (1 of them being a game server for halo) 19:35:32 Which one _isn't_ a server? 19:35:37 *** excid3 (n=Chris@dial-66-51-190-87.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 19:35:44 uhmm... just about everyone of them >_< 19:35:58 Oh well, no free rendering for me. ;) 19:36:03 lol 19:36:19 jimhap: excid3 is the creator of keryx btw 19:36:27 :D 19:36:33 Hi. :) 19:36:41 You obviously use Ubuntu, right? 19:36:53 For sure 19:37:04 mine is heavily modded, :D 19:37:12 custom kernel, libraries, the works :) 19:37:19 Moi? Junked. ;) 19:37:31 my claim to fame is I should of been a gentoo user 19:37:36 ... 19:37:45 Gentoo = :P 19:37:45 haha 19:37:47 fail 19:38:06 Ubuntu is the best! (Rendering at home is going on there.) 19:38:20 BackTrack! FTW! 19:38:26 yeah ubuntu install is more like gentobuntu :P 19:38:44 Gentoo has too many bugs, and sometimes you will wake up, and your computer won't start X anymore. :) 19:38:45 my install I mean >_< 19:39:10 plus gentoo's wiki is crap 19:39:18 I'm actually thinking of compiling my own linux from scratch 19:39:21 ubuntu's is pretty crappy outdated too now that i think about it 19:39:22 Ubuntu works on an unstable respritory, but at least they check, not take SVN or CVS builds and toss it into their respritory. 19:39:42 ive had a few problems with ubuntu lately 19:39:50 show stoppers :( 19:40:00 @Zach: LFS is not for me. If you want to make your own live CD, try Puppy Linux. 19:40:14 What kind? 19:40:17 3D stuff? 19:40:27 My intel looks dead on Ubuntu 9.04. 19:40:34 (GFX Card) 19:40:40 intel driver for my eee pc is ridiculously slow and no fixes worked for me 19:40:42 jimhap: I'm not a fan of puppy linux :P 19:40:43 yeah 19:41:04 Why not Puppy? :) 19:41:05 and my desktop freezes a lot (turns out its a problem with my onboard graphics in my mobo on the desktop) 19:41:08 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 19:41:14 I need my gnome :D 19:41:20 @excid3: Not that bad. :) 19:41:31 * ZachThibeau <3 gnome 19:41:31 My intel works - Compiz lives. :) 19:41:56 Ok, back from lunch. 19:42:06 awesome :) 19:42:13 SourceForge posted videos from the CCA awards :-) https://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/ 19:42:15 awesome 19:42:21 :O 19:42:28 cool! 19:42:31 totaly awesome 19:42:36 Wow. :) 19:43:02 btw JohnTHaller I heard in one of those videos you thanked the Zach's (IIRC as I heard from Gizmokid2005) would the be true 19:43:18 *** AppGuy has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:43:22 You can see us win Most Likely to Change..., Best Visual Design, Best Commercial Open Source Project and Best Project. I'm interviewed during Best Tool or Utility for SysAdmins, Best New Project and Best Project 19:43:32 lol 19:43:38 long list YAY 19:43:38 ZachThibeau: Yup. During Best Project at the end. 19:43:41 woo! 19:43:41 :D 19:43:58 * ZachThibeau watches video 19:44:25 * jnw222 attempts to watch video (without my speakers) 19:44:41 >_< 19:45:11 with a framerate of like 2 or 3 19:45:20 lol excid3 the last video on the link John gave praises python over ruby 19:45:25 lol 19:45:38 :D 19:45:52 : 19:45:52 opps :| 19:45:52 Perl! FTW! 19:45:52 that would be a correct praise ;) 19:46:49 Ruby really has a low userbase. 19:47:02 Python? A LOT! :) It's even integrated into GNOME! 19:47:15 yep 19:47:56 random question: anybody have a 64 bit computer? 19:48:30 nope 19:48:32 not me 19:48:40 i plan to get one soon 19:49:14 I have 2 but they run 32bit os 19:49:16 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 19:50:17 jimhap, ya, but i ru 32 bit os 19:51:12 Awww.... I was hoping SOMEBODY could build a 64 bit version of my game. :) 19:52:14 yeah I have bad experiences with 64bit os's :P 19:52:43 :D I heard the zach's :D 19:52:49 I feel famous now :D 19:53:18 btw JohnTHaller nice PortableApps.com shirt :P 19:54:36 stupid bot :P 19:56:26 ZachThibeau: Thanks. Had it made just for OSCON. 50 bucks. But I think it was worth it. 19:56:59 nice 19:57:55 Gizmokid2005|AFK: http://portableapps.com/node/19953#comment-124910 19:59:39 Maybe I'll package my game for PortableApps :) 20:00:00 nice :) 20:01:23 It's easy, right? Just use the NSIS template? 20:02:41 well as long as you know where the data saves it too etc and know where (if any) the registry settings are set then yes :) you can actually take an existing code script from say 7-ZipPortable and use that as a guide 20:03:52 No. Blender doesn't use the registry... I hope. :) 20:05:20 *** JacobMastel (n=Miranda@156-56-151-11.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) has joined #portableapps 20:05:20 *** PatrickPatience (n=Patrick@unaffiliated/patrickpatience) has joined #portableapps 20:05:54 *** PatrickPatience has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 20:08:02 *** pa_1916 (i=c74383d9@gateway/web/freenode/x-plmnrsjuycngaewh) has joined #portableapps 20:08:47 *** Espreon (n=espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon) has joined #portableapps 20:09:35 question 20:09:55 are there any wikis that have already been built for portableapps? 20:11:32 Not to my knowledge 20:11:43 *** Aerobender has parted #portableapps () 20:11:47 We have information on the site about how to use the apps and the menu. 20:13:09 OK. I have been looking around the site for about an hour and I have not seen the instructions on how to do something like this. It is very possible I overlooked it. :) 20:14:31 Well, gtg, jumping ship! :) 20:14:40 *** jimhap has quit ("Jumping ship!") 20:14:53 *** BjornH (n=Bjorn@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 20:18:38 got to go 20:18:41 bye 20:18:47 *** pa_1916 has quit ("Page closed") 20:20:57 *** andreasma has quit ("Verlassend") 20:24:55 *** Res2216firestar (n=chatzill@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 20:36:05 aw, he left 20:36:16 XAMPP works with our platform and you can install any standard WIKI into it 20:36:25 You can also use tiddlywiki directly with Firefox Portable 20:36:31 In case someone else asks 20:37:16 JohnTHaller, i think he meant, did PA.c have a wiki 20:41:06 ZachThibeau: thanks for the comment :) 20:41:11 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 20:41:13 np :) 20:41:25 no issues that you saw then? 20:42:06 no issue of yet and I bashed the thing with addons too 20:45:29 that's good to hear :) 20:45:35 different drive letters then I assume? 20:49:17 *** pa_6215 (i=46b3729d@gateway/web/freenode/x-fxrtbteyzjovnzak) has joined #portableapps 20:49:24 *** pa_6215 has quit (Client Quit) 20:52:02 *** JacobMastel has quit ("The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his. -General Patton") 20:57:42 Gizmokid2005: yup and sorry for not responding :P 20:57:49 its ok :) 20:57:53 that's where my issue was 20:57:59 nothing left behind either...makes me very happy :) 21:05:08 *** jnw222 is now known as jnw222|AFK 21:07:22 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 21:07:56 hey sar3th 21:08:07 hey Chazz 21:21:32 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:23:58 *** Whibo has quit ("ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net") 21:24:34 *** Whibo (i=Whibo_@hercules.alcatrazmedia.com) has joined #portableapps 21:24:53 *** Whibo is now known as Guest96026 21:28:03 *** Guest96026 is now known as Whibo 21:35:06 *** jnw222|AFK is now known as jnw222 21:42:49 *** drag|away is now known as dragonmage 21:44:55 *** Whibo has quit ("ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net") 21:44:59 *** BjornH (n=Bjorn@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 21:45:34 *** Whibo (i=Whibo@hercules.alcatrazmedia.com) has joined #portableapps 21:45:53 *** Whibo is now known as Guest52847 21:46:31 *** BjornH has quit (Client Quit) 21:46:52 *** BjornH (n=BjornH@90-227-131-75-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 22:01:17 *** pa_2178 (i=ae30d70a@gateway/web/freenode/x-kbkrekljeybkrbsh) has joined #portableapps 22:01:31 can you make http://sandboxgamemaker.com/ portable 22:02:34 pa_2178: you'd have to check the license 22:02:41 and then post a request in the request apps forum on the site. 22:03:41 *** pa_2178 has quit (Client Quit) 22:06:52 *** excid31 (n=Chris@dial-66-51-190-29.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 22:12:39 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 22:13:39 *** Guest52847 is now known as Whibo 22:15:15 *** sar3th has quit (""Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded."") 22:17:43 *** excid3 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:19:46 *** sar3th (n=sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 22:20:06 *** Res2216firestar has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.85-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522]") 22:22:19 *** Chazz has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:37:28 *** excid31 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:39:24 *** sar3th has quit (""Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded."") 22:40:32 *** ve4jhj (n=ve4jhj@204.16.150.105) has joined #portableapps 22:42:59 *** BjornH has quit ("Leaving") 22:43:44 *** Chazz (n=Chazz@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 22:47:31 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 22:50:43 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 22:59:36 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 23:02:09 *** Chazz has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:07:47 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:08:19 *** Chazz (n=Chazz@unaffiliated/dabomb69) has joined #portableapps 23:14:11 *** Twinkletoes|W (n=chatzill@izb6d318.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 23:25:08 *** pa_9487 (i=4cb835fe@gateway/web/freenode/x-xbnbmtwbupococfn) has joined #portableapps 23:25:53 hi trying to d/l protable firefox. all mirrors say "file not found" 23:26:07 could be a sourceforge.net mirror issue again 23:26:34 went directly to sourceforge. serached for ff. clicked 'view all files' but file list is empty. 23:26:44 try this http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Edition%203.5.2/FirefoxPortable_3.5.2_English.paf.exe?use_mirror=iweb 23:26:58 *** Chazz has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:27:29 trying that now - thanx 23:27:36 same result "file could not be found or is not available" 23:28:05 hmm give it about an hour or so and try again they maybe working at that time 23:28:13 does sourceforge have lots of problems? always thought of them as quite stable 23:28:27 ok - will try later -- many thanx 23:28:54 bye now 23:28:57 *** pa_9487 has quit (Client Quit) 23:31:42 *** Don_Miguel (n=MichaelW@200.87.191.98) has joined #portableapps 23:35:24 I think PortableApps.com should have a podcast 23:36:29 *** jnw222 has quit ("Leaving.") 23:44:30 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 23:48:40 *** kai_62656 (n=unknown@68-118-64-169.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 23:52:23 *** BlinkyToon (n=MichaelW@200.87.191.98) has joined #portableapps 23:52:33 *** Don_Miguel has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:58:29 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 23:59:09 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005