00:04:28 can i use delphi 7? 00:04:56 i found a delphi 7 cd in my cds 00:05:01 ;) 00:06:24 I don't know, but.. 00:06:32 JohnTHaller, will delphi7 work to compile the menu? 00:08:04 nope 00:08:09 2003 or greater only 00:08:16 ahhhhh 00:08:37 Thanks, mino 07 is free to download and use but you have to register 00:08:50 I think its 07, might be 03, but it works 00:09:00 do you have a link? 00:09:06 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 00:09:07 I can get one 00:09:55 *** sancas has quit (Client Quit) 00:10:07 I think there is a trial of 2007, but I don't think it lets you add components (which we use) 00:10:20 there is a trial of 09 00:10:34 looks like this might be free http://www.codegear.com/products/delphi/2006 00:11:13 johnthaller will resource hackker work to remove the logo 00:11:20 i hope thats not offensive 00:11:56 probably not. it's built-in and will probably fail to run without it. why do you want to remove it? 00:11:59 i just want the program to be kinda discrete you know 00:12:17 I think that currupts it, but its worth a shot, I would try it on a new download not your existing meny 00:12:47 is that true johnthaller? 00:12:49 If you're running it somewhere you're not supposed to, removing the logo won't help. The admins will be able to tell you used it. Including by your network traffic. 00:13:03 There's really no such thing as stealth software. 00:13:28 i just dont want students next to me know that i use it 00:14:06 you could use it without the menu 00:14:07 i know we 00:14:08 just the apps 00:14:12 You can make it fit in better with the new beta and the linked Windows 7 theme http://portableapps.com/node/20013 00:14:14 re supposed to spread it but 00:14:30 ok, on here Turbo Delphi 2006 explorer, I think this works https://downloads.embarcadero.com/free/delphi 00:14:37 make sure to get the english one 00:15:04 or a vista theme: http://portableapps.com/node/20392 00:15:37 if it's a school computer, it probably run the win2k theme 00:15:39 there will be an XP one, too. but no matter how you theme it, people will be able to tell you're not using the PC. students are smart! 00:15:49 there is a win2k one somewhere, I think 00:15:57 ptc probably 00:16:04 yeah, which won't work with 2.0 00:16:22 umm your right, but that's not that hard to convert it 00:17:04 so there is absolutely no way to just hide or competely remove the "portable apps your digital..."? 00:17:18 the splash screen, or the menu? 00:17:29 the menu 00:17:40 i photoshoped the splash screens 00:18:06 on the menu, you have to recompile it, but I bet you could make a theme and color it similar to hide most of the text, just match the color up and it will hide it/make it harder to read 00:18:42 how would i go about recompiling it? 00:18:51 i have the source 00:18:57 mino, w/ delphi 00:18:59 how does photoshopping the splash screens make them less obious? 00:19:03 but idk where the image file is 00:19:26 cause at the bottom it says portable apps 00:19:31 JohnThaller, change what it says, so when an app opens it doesn't say portableapps.com 00:20:04 actually the logo isnt a problem 00:20:08 yeah, but with the splash it still means you're running something you're not supposed to, doesn't it? 00:20:18 but i would just like to hide the text 00:20:23 no 00:20:44 i just dont wanna leave a trace 00:21:00 like it says in most apps' descriptions 00:21:04 mino if your not allowed to use it, you will be caught, sysadmins are good, in my school we used Italc to watch what every kid was doing, I know,I helped 00:21:13 considering the normal apps have no splashes, any splash is a tip-off to others watching you. 00:21:34 can they be disabled? 00:21:46 yes, in the nsi scripts 00:21:47 i cahnged hidesplash=false to true 00:21:55 but nothing happened 00:22:00 just remove everything about the splash 00:22:03 and, honestly, if the sysadmins are good, you WILL get caught. if your school or office has rules against portable software, you shouldn't use it. they all leave traces on Windows that you can't remove without admin rights. and on their network they know what you are using (firefox, pidgin, thunderbird, etc) 00:22:12 and that had to be recompiled into the exe 00:22:52 we expelled a kid for having a portable hard drive and ophcrack on it, sysadmins don't mess around 00:22:52 we always advise against using it in places you shouldn't. it's not stealth. no software you run from a flash drive is stealth. and any that advertises itself as stealth is lying. 00:23:03 well i mostly use firefox because the flash player plugin at school is outdated 00:23:42 side note - be sure you have the latest flash player in FFP as any before last week's release is vulnerable to a remote code exploit. 00:23:58 gotta love flash :D 00:24:15 yeah, that was a bad one 00:24:22 what about this---> "without leaving any personal information behind." 00:24:35 no personal information =/= no trace 00:24:45 good one 00:24:47 sorry 00:24:48 no personal info means no usernames or passwords 00:24:49 =/= stealth 00:24:49 anyeay 00:24:51 anyway 00:24:54 does not mean cache and sucjh 00:25:07 actually cache would be personal... we don't leave that either 00:25:34 but you can tell an app was run from the registry. and from the precache on Windows. for example. 00:26:51 so is pidgin really safe? 00:27:35 safe in terms of it not being bugg or leaving stuff behind. but the sysadmins know exactly which IM networks you're using 00:28:19 they can monitor that at the network level, which is typical in any school or office. the only way around that would be to use tor to encrypt all the traffic. but using something like that at a school or office is usually enough to get you expelled or fired. 00:29:38 so are there any other apps that work like your menu platform? 00:31:38 We don't support or recommend competing menus :-P heh. Though or apps should work with them in most cases. 00:32:13 But there are tons of menus out there PStart, 8Start, ASuite, Geek, RocketDock, etc, etc. 00:32:22 Some are better supported than others. 00:33:00 i cant run delphi 2009 00:33:14 my system requirements are too crappy 00:33:54 Yeah, you'd need to change some stuff from our code to compile it on it anyway. Ours is ASCII and the new Delphi is Unicode. We're gonna switch to it eventually. 00:34:12 what did you compile it with? 00:34:16 Just a matter of time and money. 00:34:26 Delphi 2003 which is ASCII-only 00:34:31 oh 00:34:37 That's why it still works on Win9x/Me 00:34:46 so would removing the image be possible on that program? 00:35:12 You'd have to recompile it, but yeah. And you'll need a full version, since the lite ones don't let you add components. 00:35:30 oh 00:35:42 is 2003 available for download? 00:36:19 Don't think so. It was a $1000 program. 00:36:30 :/ 00:36:34 damn 00:37:38 *** pa_5534 (i=d1800a8a@gateway/web/freenode/x-nbxeqdjflrotdprb) has joined #portableapps 00:38:46 hello pa_5534 can we help you? 00:39:21 hey just wondering if can anyone here help me install a portiable version of winamp? 00:39:47 is it the launcher that was in our beta testing forums? 00:40:07 yes 00:40:23 then yes, someone can, but I would not be the one to ask 00:40:45 ok thanks 00:41:04 *** Res2216firestar (n=chatzill@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 00:41:59 *** mino has quit ("Page closed") 00:42:27 i tried the help section on the website under the Adding Apps to the PortableApps.com menu link but can't get it to work. 00:46:03 *** pa_5534 has quit ("Page closed") 00:49:26 later guys, and congrads again John 00:49:29 *** alpha1beta has parted #portableapps () 00:52:10 ok upgrade time 00:52:14 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Client Quit) 01:01:32 *** WastePotato has quit ("WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3") 01:04:45 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 01:08:57 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@mctnnbsa24w-142167043173.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net) has joined #portableapps 01:12:33 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 01:14:32 *** WastePotato has quit ("WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3") 01:22:57 YAY for college. Win7 Ultimate final - HERE I COME! 01:22:58 :D 01:23:18 lol 01:23:24 wha Gizmokid2005|AFK? 01:23:28 i already had it 01:23:32 :P 01:23:35 the FINAL? 01:23:41 ya the FINAL: 01:23:45 from msdn 01:23:46 ^_^ 01:23:48 remember? 01:23:49 :P 01:23:54 nope 01:24:00 lol 01:24:04 shoot 01:24:12 Gizmokid2005|AFK, RTM version 01:24:12 i need to burn vista and 7... 01:24:16 Chazz: no 01:24:18 final 01:24:28 wuts the diff? 01:24:29 it's Pro, not ultimate - my bad 01:24:37 Gizmokid2005|AFK: http://www.bensawsome.com/images/cmds/fail.jpg 01:24:38 *** Bensawsome (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 01:24:40 ;p 01:24:43 lol 01:24:44 lol 01:25:00 and, Gizmokid2005|AFK how'd u get the final? 01:25:07 Chazz: MSDNAA 01:25:16 whats the AA? 01:25:23 Academic Alliance 01:25:36 oh :/ 01:25:45 normal MSDN doesnt have it? 01:25:54 idk 01:25:58 don't have MSDN anymore 01:26:01 * Chazz checks 01:26:15 * Gizmokid2005|AFK is off 01:26:27 obai Gizmokid2005|AFK :'( 01:27:21 *** ZachThibeau_ (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:27:36 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Nick collision from services.) 01:27:39 *** ZachThibeau_ is now known as ZachThibeau 01:28:59 .t cst 01:29:00 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:42:02 CST 01:29:04 :/ 01:29:13 .t ast 01:29:13 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:42:16 AST 01:29:16 well, 3 days ago a new win7 pro was released on msdn 01:29:32 * ZachThibeau upgraded to windows 7 ultimate 01:29:54 yay :D 01:31:07 oh cool! 01:31:18 Win Server 2k8 R2 is out! 01:31:33 the upgrade was for my desktop though Chazz >_< 01:31:40 my laptop is still pro :P 01:31:47 ZachThibeau, ah, nice :P 01:33:35 oh, wait, the x86 Pro final for Win7 was relesed today :D 01:33:38 * Chazz downloads 01:34:02 Chazz: was it? 01:34:08 it was 01:34:23 * excid3 signs into bizspark 01:34:31 Ah crap...nevermind. Man I hate dialup. 01:34:47 ya, it would take u like, a week 01:34:53 try a year 01:35:05 ya :P 01:35:17 I dunno 01:35:37 I can download a lot on dialup if it's not being used for anything else 01:36:31 excid3, took ben (on his 30something mb connection) a few hrs to get the rtm downloaded. it'll take you forever and a day 01:37:07 I was trying to keep my self esteem Chazz, thanks for ruining it for me. :P 01:37:15 >_< 01:38:04 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 01:38:43 lol 01:41:24 anyways sleep time for me 01:41:32 night y'all 01:41:33 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Client Quit) 01:41:33 night za 01:44:46 *** Res2216firestar has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.85-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522]") 01:45:02 *** WastePotato has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02:05:58 *** SergentSiler (n=Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 02:07:19 SergentSiler! 02:07:22 nom 02:07:23 I HAVE THE FUNNIEST PIC 02:07:25 SergentSiler! 02:07:28 its one of my friends 02:07:31 fuckin hilarious 02:07:38 Bensawsome, different chan?:P 02:07:53 heh 02:08:00 Bensawsome, u swore in #PortableApps 02:08:20 ??? 02:08:22 shoot 02:08:24 my bad 02:08:25 ._. 02:08:27 lol 02:08:30 lol 02:08:31 * SergentSiler gives Bensawsome a cookie 02:08:33 * Bensawsome though we were in #silerSpot >_> 02:09:54 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:38:50 *** Scriptdaemon (n=KennyW@76.83.207.236) has joined #portableapps 02:47:51 *** robotds3 (i=4c653869@gateway/web/freenode/x-slgomlvsqsuheoom) has joined #portableapps 02:48:06 Hello robotds3 02:48:16 hi 02:50:57 how do I install a new version of firefox portable? 02:51:15 I currently have an older version on my thumb drive. 02:51:26 just run the new installer 02:51:46 alright thanks Chazz 02:51:52 yw :) 02:51:54 have a nice day 02:52:00 you too 02:52:06 thanks :) 02:52:11 *** robotds3 has quit (Client Quit) 02:55:39 JohnTHaller, could you please censor this a bit: http://portableapps.com/node/20408#comment-125708 ? 03:00:49 *** Gizmokid2005 (n=Gizmokid@75-134-112-128.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 03:07:21 *** ZachThibeau (i=zachthib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 03:07:32 *** dbdii407 (i=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 03:09:36 *** SergentSs (i=sergents@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) has joined #portableapps 03:10:44 *** SergentSs is now known as SrgSiler 03:12:00 *** SergentSiler has quit ("Siler Out") 03:12:05 *** SrgSiler is now known as SergentSiler 03:12:17 Ok, anyone wanna see an updater progress shot? 03:12:47 JohnTHaller: definitely :D 03:13:35 ya! 03:14:46 Ok, no real change on the updater screen itself, same deal there: http://portableapps.com/temp/PortableApps.comUpdaterPreview2.png 03:16:10 But I added more into to the adding new apps screen. No version numbers (since you're adding a new app, it's not as important) which gives us room for install size. Also shows space free at the top: http://portableapps.com/temp/PortableApps.comUpdaterAddPreview3.png 03:16:32 very nice JohnTHaller!! 03:16:44 are you going to try to include the apps' icon or would that be too much? 03:17:01 We'd need to download them all, which is kinda annoying for the end user. 03:17:08 looks great JohnTHaller! 03:17:09 ahh 03:17:13 in that case, I agree :) 03:17:18 I have some pre-alpha code to do it and use 7z to unzip em. may use it. we'll see. 03:17:43 looking good JohnTHaller 03:18:04 But I have the add screen only showing apps you don't have installed yet. No version (since it's not as important). Description is first (since that' 03:18:14 s what people want followed by download and install size). 03:18:34 yeah, that makes sense 03:18:44 Then update only shows apps you do have and includes the version number and download size first since that's more important than the description in that case. 03:18:56 right, since you already have it installed 03:21:17 and it's properly switching between Add vs Update mode via calls from the menu, so it's almost there. I just need to finish up the localization calls and then push it live as a beta. 03:21:38 yay! :D 03:22:43 Which mode is launched if you run it explicitly? 03:22:55 update 03:22:56 *** SergentSiler has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:23:05 but it's not made to be run solo 03:23:30 Yeah 03:23:30 actually, it'll work fine in update mode solo. but without the menu/platform running, the installers won't run in auto mode. 03:25:03 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:25:21 *** ZachThibeau (i=zachthib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 03:25:25 *** dbdii407 has quit (Client Quit) 03:25:47 *** dbdii407 (i=dbdii407@bnc1.shellium.org) has joined #portableapps 03:27:42 Nice 03:28:02 It should be an extremely handy addition to have the updater 03:29:19 *** SergentSs (i=sergents@free.psybnc.and.eggdrop.at.shellium.org) has joined #portableapps 03:30:27 *** SergentSs is now known as SrgSiler|ZNC 03:31:59 *** diib has quit ("Leaving") 03:42:41 *** Gizmokid2010 (n=Gizmokid@75-134-112-128.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 03:43:42 *** Gizmokid2005 has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:43:44 *** Gizmokid2010 is now known as Gizmokid2005 03:51:04 *** Mir has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:51:26 Alright... bedtime. Gnight all. 03:51:44 night JohnTHaller 03:52:04 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 03:52:10 *** Mir (n=Mir@pool-71-109-168-202.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 03:57:55 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 04:01:45 *** Brian_S is now known as MrFish 04:05:33 *** powerjuce (n=powerjuc@unaffiliated/powerjuce) has joined #portableapps 04:06:09 *** powerjuce is now known as powerjuce|away 04:08:52 *** Scriptdaemon has quit ("Leaving") 04:11:46 *** MrFish is now known as Brian_S 04:17:42 *** drag|away has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:17:44 *** drag|out (i=newdrago@cpe-071-068-073-045.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 05:07:59 *** powerjuce|away has quit ("peace out all") 05:31:15 *** excid3 has quit ("Leaving.") 05:55:39 *** gluxon (i=47ea6df6@gateway/web/freenode/x-hetvcebbpoejackx) has joined #portableapps 05:56:29 hey gluxon 05:56:51 hi 05:59:43 Chazz: Play wolf with me in ##jswolfbot 06:04:40 btw, gluxon 06:07:24 ? 06:07:37 have you tried bash portable yet? 06:08:50 no, sorry. 06:09:23 I didn't even know it's been uploaded. 06:09:23 oh, ok :) 06:09:41 gosh, don't you ever look at the beta forums! :P 06:09:50 *** ChrisMorgan (n=Chris@c114-76-38-144.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 06:10:23 ChrisMorgan, do you know where windows stores the PATH varibles? 06:10:42 In the registry. 06:10:47 ok 06:10:50 Are you just wanting to know what they are? 06:11:04 you dont happen to know where in the registry, do you? 06:11:24 I do. 06:11:28 Me 06:11:29 too 06:11:42 ok, would someone please tell me? 06:11:47 plz 06:11:52 okay, you tell him :P 06:11:55 HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Environment or similar 06:12:01 I'll check... 06:12:05 I'm lazy... 06:12:12 * ChrisMorgan agrees 06:12:12 thanks Chris :) 06:12:28 * Chazz also agrees :P 06:12:30 might have been Microsoft\Windows\CurrentControlSet\Environment 06:13:33 BTw, ChrisMorgan, what time is it over there? 06:13:41 .t AEST 06:13:42 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:26:48 AEST 06:14:11 gluxon, shouldn't you be in bed? 06:14:11 4 pm? 06:14:25 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("Read error: 409 (connection not clean, using Formula 409 to clean up connection)") 06:14:33 I am in bed :P 06:14:36 and, it's about 4:30PM where Chris is 06:14:39 nice :P 06:15:27 I always have to be up at 2:00 in the morning to see Chris on the IRC... 06:15:33 heh 06:15:34 u 06:15:37 ve 06:15:47 not been around at 2 AM any time recently 06:16:20 gluxon: if you were on all the time you would find that that's not true. 06:16:26 Now go to sleep. 06:16:38 quite often he's not here till like 5AM 06:16:49 ? 06:17:13 gluxon, often Chris doesn't get here till like 5 AM 06:17:20 Sometimes (e.g. Saturday), I'm on 6-7 hours earlier 06:17:39 I can't, I slept all today (or yesterday) because of a dumb road trip. :P 06:18:31 .g registry environment variable location 06:18:32 ChrisMorgan: http://vlaurie.com/computers2/Articles/environment.htm 06:18:33 And I had to be in the car for 24 hours... twice. 06:18:37 ChrisMorgan, whats this sleep thing you talk about? 06:19:04 It's something that no-one gets enough of. 06:19:09 Like money. 06:19:36 heh. 06:19:48 ANYway, let's talk about something useful. 06:19:53 Like Manta! :-) 06:20:05 The start page is shaping up now... 06:20:14 ? You mean Santa? 06:20:22 :/ 06:20:22 no, manta 06:20:23 No 06:20:31 Manta. 06:20:44 As in a manta ray if you're speaking of animals. 06:20:51 ChrisMorgan, you should make a christmas edition called Santa need 12/25 :P 06:20:57 ? Who/what is a Manta? 06:20:57 Or http://code.google.com/p/manta-server if you're talking of software. 06:21:09 .wik manta ray 06:21:11 A manta is a cute animal. Similar to a sting ray 06:21:12 "The manta ray (Manta birostris), is the largest of the rays, with the largest known specimen having been more than 7.6 m (about 25 ft) across, with a weight of about 2,300 kg (about 5,000 lb)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manta_ray 06:21:18 lol 06:21:23 cute? 06:21:38 Yes :D 06:21:58 ... wow... this is really useful. 06:22:00 ^_^ 06:22:20 gluxon: you mean my project, or this discussion? 06:23:10 ? You're project? 06:23:33 Grammar, please... your, not you're which means you are 06:23:42 ChrisMorgan, he means 06:23:48 You are project 06:24:12 Whoops... 06:25:02 Howl about you play wolf with Chazz and I :P 06:25:16 ya, ChrisMorgan play wolf! 06:25:26 What are you guys talking abuot? 06:25:28 *about 06:25:43 ChrisMorgan, the werewolf IRC game 06:25:53 :/ - which is my answer 06:25:57 /join ##jswolfbot 06:26:04 join ##jswolfbot 06:26:14 You've still never told me what it *is* 06:26:28 I can't believe you don't know about wolf :( 06:26:39 ChrisMorgan, it's a lot easier to just have you watch that it is explain it :P 06:32:24 Well I vote that http://portableapps.com/node/20408#comment-125708 should get jamcomm banned. Completely uncalled for like that. 06:34:08 yup, i agree 06:34:20 i asked JTH if he could censor that earlier 06:34:25 he never said anything tho 06:45:54 *** gluxon has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 06:48:58 .seen JohnTHaller 06:48:58 ChrisMorgan: I last saw johnthaller at 2009-08-18 04:04:31 UTC on #portableapps 06:49:15 palogbot: uri 06:49:15 http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2009-08-18#T06-49-15 06:52:44 ChrisMorgan, i had to think of something awesome to make that would rival your Manta Server, so I'm writing an IRC Bot in LOLCode... (Mants is still cooler though) 06:52:57 :-) 06:53:24 s/Mants/Manta 06:54:42 So two days in a row I've missed John by a couple of hours... 06:55:06 wake up earlier? ;- 06:55:09 ) 06:55:31 Chazz: I don't tend to wake up at 1 o'clock in the afternoon. 06:55:48 huh... 06:55:58 thats 2 hrs earlier than i wake up normally 06:56:07 :S 06:58:09 ok, i'm now quite sure that the only people who like Bash Portable live in Australia :/ 06:58:23 Who? 06:58:26 Or about the same time zone :/ 06:58:42 and, everyone that actually downloads Bash Portable :/ 07:00:34 Ah... he tries to sell for $52 $11,900 of software... to an undercover agent who haggles it down to $45. Now he has $195,000 of "statuatory damages" and $15,563 of lawyer fees to pay :D 07:01:21 lol, that was interesting... 07:04:20 *** gluxon (i=47ea6df6@gateway/web/freenode/x-nnemitmdykheahsu) has joined #portableapps 07:04:54 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:05:19 *** ChrisMorgan (n=Chris@c114-76-38-144.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 07:06:21 you broked yourself chris :/ 07:06:30 gluxon, sleep tiem naow? 07:06:31 I thought I would. 07:06:40 what did you do? 07:06:42 I'd accidentally opened the help panel 07:06:52 And I went to close it because it takes too much space. 07:06:58 And unsurprisingly it crashed. 07:07:03 I really should update to a newer build. 07:07:13 oh 07:08:55 *** gluxon has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 07:16:14 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|Away 07:31:13 *** mj (n=some1@88.240.26.225) has joined #portableapps 07:31:38 *** mj is now known as Guest52840 07:32:44 *** Guest52840 is now known as mjj 07:33:56 *** ChrisMorgan|Away is now known as ChrisMorgan 07:36:43 ChrisMorgan, do you know if there's a way to set PATH varibles w/o messing w/ the registry? 07:37:07 Chazz: permanently or just for the process and its children? 07:37:17 just for the process 07:37:22 NSIS? 07:38:13 PA.c launcher/program it launches, so ya NSIS i guess 07:38:26 ReadEnvStr $0 PATH 07:38:27 System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("PATH", "$0;$EXEDIR\App\whatever").n' 07:38:56 ok, and then ,how would you get rid of that? 07:39:47 `System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("PATH", r0).n'` will revert it to the original PATH, but why would you want to do that? 07:39:53 It's process-specific 07:39:57 oh 07:40:17 but, when the process dies, will it disappere too? 07:40:23 Yes. 07:40:27 ah, ok 07:40:30 It's process-specific. 07:40:46 Setting environment variables is done by most of our launchers. 07:40:53 oh :/ 07:41:09 so, that would effect the file that was launched too, right? 07:41:22 * Chazz thinks wait, duh of course 07:41:24 It will affect all sub-processes. 07:41:29 ok 07:43:04 well, now it's time to quadrupal the amount of code in the bash portable launcher :/ 07:43:55 Whyfore? 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09:10:05 language of the actual app 09:10:13 ;) 09:11:48 well, other than Java, basically every other language that needs dependancies is not able to be a portable apps 09:12:31 although i think there's some way to compile python programs into a standalone exe that doesn't need python, so that /might/ be an option... 09:13:18 oh yeah 09:14:10 ex visual c++ able to develop portable app? 09:14:31 ya, i think that would work 09:15:37 althought, .net cant run cross os but it can deployment portable app for winxp os? 09:16:07 nope 09:16:26 many XP systems don't have .Net installed 09:17:07 yeah, i can install frameword together my app 09:17:33 no, if it installes something, it's not considered portable 09:17:53 yeah i know your opinion 09:18:00 so it wouldn't be a /portable/ app 09:18:15 yeah i know ;) 09:19:15 but i only want deploy my app 09:19:37 as in it doesn't matter if it's portable? 09:19:51 when i plug my usb flash so my app auto run 09:20:17 for that all you'd have to do was edit the autorun.inf 09:21:08 yeah 09:21:58 my app include have got many file type such as zip, dll, and exe file 09:22:19 well is there one main file to run? 09:22:26 yeah 09:22:47 ya, you'd just need to make that the autorun file then 09:22:59 pls help me 09:23:45 what part do you need help w/? 09:23:57 oh yeah 09:24:08 thank you so much 09:25:30 yw :) 09:25:48 :) 09:25:51 thanks 09:26:42 yw :D 09:26:48 have a nice day/night 09:27:16 thanks so much 09:27:29 np ;) 09:27:35 Chazz 09:27:45 beginner 09:27:51 can you help me 09:27:56 with? 09:28:14 how to connect to freenode@freenode/bot/connect 09:28:52 thats not something you connect to, thats one of freenode's bots 09:30:12 that's mean i will emailed to freenode@freenode/bot/connect to consuling? 09:30:57 thats not an email address either :/ 09:31:40 ;) 09:31:56 oh yeah 09:33:00 thanks so much 09:33:42 yw ;) 09:35:07 *** purple (n=purple@80.93.231.198) has joined #portableapps 09:36:23 wow 09:36:29 that's right 09:36:37 you are very cool 09:36:57 thnx :) 09:39:17 *** purple has quit (Client Quit) 09:39:47 *** purple (n=purple@80.93.231.198) has joined #portableapps 09:39:49 *** abc528 (n=abc528@lns-bzn-29-82-248-248-99.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #portableapps 09:42:23 hi Chazz 09:42:39 hello... again 09:42:44 yeah 09:42:55 long time no see, huh :P 09:43:11 i want you help me 09:43:20 with? 09:43:38 can you give me a link to download ClickOne software 09:44:11 never heard of it :/ 09:44:12 ClickOne that's soft to deploy app 09:44:17 .g lickone 09:44:18 Chazz: http://www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/dewey-liccioni-anthony-liccone.html 09:44:19 ern 09:44:21 cram 09:44:24 gah 09:44:31 sorry, cant type thismorning 09:44:41 .g clickone 09:44:42 Chazz: http://bytes.com/topic/c-sharp/answers/595744-what-clickone 09:44:44 exactly ClickOnce 09:44:53 .g clickonce 09:44:54 Chazz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClickOnce 09:44:59 ^^ 09:45:24 .g foo 09:45:25 mjj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar 09:47:09 thanks so much 09:47:17 yw 10:01:34 *** Horusofoz (n=Administ@122-49-151-239.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 10:01:45 Spam Alert - http://portableapps.com/user/122216 10:04:03 Horusofoz, yup :/ 10:26:52 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps () 10:43:52 *** drag|out is now known as dragonmage 10:49:03 *** Guest51746 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:49:11 *** dbdii407 (i=dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 10:56:00 *** beginner has quit ("Page closed") 11:28:47 *** Guest53980 is now known as Whibo 11:39:43 *** m-p{3} (i=unrealmp@94.23.211.48) has joined #portableapps 11:43:41 Wow, just found out a neat extension for firefox called ArchView, which can browse ISO, ZIP and RAR files without downloading the whole file. And you can even download only some specific files and ignore the others without getting the full archive :O 11:47:01 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 12:13:36 *** mjj has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 12:14:52 *** mjj (n=some1@88.244.88.148) has joined #portableapps 12:20:18 m-p{3}, sounds great 12:23:09 *** m-p{3} has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]") 12:34:00 *** pa_2830 (i=792d77e3@gateway/web/freenode/x-dtyxnubwwqlrerun) has joined #portableapps 12:37:18 *** pa_2830 has parted #portableapps () 12:38:12 *** purple has quit ("Only two things are definite, Death and Format C:\") 12:48:25 *** TheWarden (i=thewarde@venhost.venmarces.com) has joined #portableapps 13:19:24 *** purple (n=purple@80.93.231.198) has joined #portableapps 13:31:13 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 13:52:52 *** ZeroA4 (n=Pergunte@unaffiliated/zeroa4) has joined #portableapps 14:06:07 *** ptmb (n=PTMblogg@a83-132-76-124.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 14:10:18 *** ZachThibeau (n=ZachThib@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 14:13:44 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Client Quit) 14:14:35 *** ZachThibv is now known as ZachThibeau 14:22:21 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 14:24:57 *** Rings__ (n=siebe@d515374A6.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 14:25:38 Hey does any one know how to uninstall a portable apss 14:26:11 *** Rings__ has parted #portableapps ("Ex-Chat") 14:35:38 *** ZerFEr (n=ZerFEr@217.194.116.85.dsl.manitu.net) has joined #portableapps 14:35:55 lol 14:59:47 *** excid3 (n=Chris@dial-66-51-190-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 14:59:54 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 15:08:19 *** ZerFEr has quit ("Verlassend") 15:09:25 *** TheWarden has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:09:38 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 15:09:45 hey Gizmokid2005 15:09:51 hey JohnTHaller :) 15:10:20 SO, you think SB is ready to go? 15:10:27 What should we set the splash to? 15:10:35 AWESOMENESS 15:10:38 from what I've seen, and tested, all the issues are taken care of 15:10:46 and as for the splash...eh, 10-15 seconds? 15:11:18 When did it come up in 5 secs for you? 15:11:36 I had it running, shut it down, waited a minute, relaunched. From my ext hdd 15:12:04 Ah ok 15:12:19 yeah, I think it might've still been a bit cached in the system/memory 15:12:35 All other times it was, what, 20 seconds (hd) to a minute (flash) 15:12:41 yeah 15:12:51 Let's say 15 then. And I'll add a note to the page. 15:12:52 my flash drive took 2 full minutes to be ready, but 1 full minute to show the window 15:12:57 sounds like a plan. 15:14:00 It normally runs and waits for it to clean up the reg keys, right? 15:14:10 Yep. 15:14:35 Ok, need to change installer.ini then since it should look for SongbirdPortable.exe (the default) 15:14:56 Compiling the launcher has two warnings. CheckForCrashReports label isn't used. And CharStrip function is not used. 15:15:35 yeah, CharStrip is part of the function I used to modify the .tree file 15:15:36 that's ok 15:15:42 The checkforcrashreports hmm 15:15:50 Yeah, but it's zeroing it out since it's not used. 15:16:21 And I think I see that under CheckIfRunning, you skip right to ProfileWork on line 197 when that should go to CheckForCrashReports 15:16:43 Yep, that's where it should go 15:16:44 thanks 15:16:50 (For future reference, always check your warnings, there should be absolutely none.) 15:16:57 k 15:17:07 So was the checkforcrashreports and checkforextensiondirectory ever used? 15:19:55 yeah, they would've been. if it wasn't allowing multiple instances, and wasn't running already it should've flowed into CheckForCrashReports 15:20:53 I know it should have. What I mean, has this section been tested. Atm, it looks like it's never been used :-( 15:21:08 yeah, when I was first rebuilding my launcher 15:21:26 *** spgSCOTT (n=spg_SCOT@5ac4ecdb.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 15:21:31 Ok, you're sure it was used and happy before, right? Normally, this would require another round of testing. 15:22:02 yeah I am. I had a lot of testing I did during my re-write and updating the code. I had a few issues with that particular section I had to iron out 15:22:09 Ok 15:22:13 like looking for the wrong directories, and not backing the previous entries right. 15:22:43 Removed Charstrip function and renamed the include file to strstrip. Re-enabled that check section. Splash is set to 15000. Compiles without warnings now. 15:23:02 k, I'll do that too 15:23:15 *** spgSCOTT has parted #portableapps () 15:23:45 stripped down your installer.ini to just be the preserve directory 15:23:52 altered your appinfo.ini to be multilingual 15:24:44 *** mjj has quit (Client Quit) 15:25:20 thanks 15:25:28 all that sound right? 15:25:44 yeah it does, SB is multilingual so that's right 15:25:57 and you've just gort the following in the installer.ini? 15:25:57 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801 15:25:59 grr 15:26:30 [DirectoriesToPreserve] 15:26:30 PreserveDirectory1=App\Songbird\extensions 15:26:41 just that right? 15:28:22 yeah 15:28:26 K, 15:28:29 that should work 15:28:48 all the languages aren't needed (it's the default). don't need the main directories section (default). don't need the close info (default) 15:29:04 Best to go with the defaults and leave it as simple as possible when you can 15:29:17 alrighty, I wasn't sure the defaults so I had it there to be safe 15:29:20 and the source? 15:29:23 still including that or not? 15:32:49 No, we don't. No need to take up the extra space on every install. And it's all available from us. And we don't require it to be distributed for every install for folks following the rules. 15:33:05 oke doke :) just making sure 15:33:10 I'll clean up my installer too 15:33:13 .ini 15:33:40 I'm checking out the Songbird source code now to post to SF. I have the installer compiled and digitally signed waiting to go. 15:33:51 alrighty 15:34:32 Checked out, compressing 7z 15:37:36 k 15:41:00 *** abc528 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:52:40 *** Whibo_ (n=Whibo@unaffiliated/whibo) has joined #portableapps 15:53:06 Songbird Portable 1.2 Released! http://portableapps.com/news/2009-08-18_-_songbird_portable_1.2 15:53:13 Thanks to Gizmokid2005! 15:53:21 Thanks to you too JohnTHaller! :) 15:53:57 *** Whibo_ has quit (Client Quit) 15:54:17 *** Whibo_ (n=Whibo@unaffiliated/whibo) has joined #portableapps 15:56:12 congrats Gizmokid2005 15:56:19 thanks ZachThibeau :) 15:56:52 :P 15:57:15 my desktop is so cold it wouldn't startup >_< 15:57:15 *** Whibo has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15:57:26 it's up now that I warmed it up a bit 15:57:27 *** Whibo_ is now known as Whibo 15:57:42 JohnTHaller: [12:09:58] <@stevel> Gizmokid2005: awesome, i'll have our blog post published this morning 15:59:31 *** abc528 (n=abc528@lns-bzn-31-82-252-192-91.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #portableapps 16:00:38 Nice :-0 16:00:48 Don't forget to Digg it: http://digg.com/software/Songbird_Portable_1_2_Carry_Your_Music_On_Your_USB_Drive 16:01:06 definitely, it's next on my list after my personal blog post :D 16:01:17 *** Suiseiseki (n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 16:01:30 *** TheWarden (i=thewarde@venhost.venmarces.com) has joined #portableapps 16:06:07 I dug it and posted it to facebook automatically ;) 16:06:16 Awesome :) 16:06:32 my digg profile is also my facebook profile :P 16:07:15 already 4 diggs 16:07:18 not bad 16:07:18 yep 16:07:23 you, me, john...and someone else 16:07:24 lol 16:09:34 :P 16:10:47 thanks for becoming my fan Gizmokid2005 on digg >_< 16:10:54 yw ZachThibeau :) 16:12:02 lol Outlook 2007 gets notifications from gmail faster than gtalk sends me notifications >_< 16:12:46 when I say gtalk I mean google talk 16:13:08 right 16:14:17 grrr :/ I can't set my sharing in Windows 7 to windows xp :/ 16:15:20 *** qwertymodo (n=monitor@72-160-86-81.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined #portableapps 16:15:36 howdy qwertymodo :D 16:15:53 hello zachthibeau 16:15:55 *** TimClark (i=808737e1@gateway/web/freenode/x-peztcslveuzhkqjw) has joined #portableapps 16:16:00 howdy TimClark 16:16:30 hello TimClark! 16:16:32 you guys need a life :P 16:16:51 I do have a life 16:16:52 :P 16:17:01 I just got off of work a couple of hours ago 16:17:32 yes, i know and your going to start a small software business and get a digital signature for it 16:17:34 :P 16:17:40 logs ftw :P 16:17:51 yeah I'm going to try 16:17:52 Gizmokid2005: are you here ? 16:17:59 TimClark: of course, I already said hI :P 16:18:19 sorry, ZachThibeau distracted me :P 16:18:24 I figured as much 16:18:42 hey don't blame me :P 16:18:44 he used my name w/o a ! and so is highliged in webcrap 16:19:06 Gizmokid2005: congrats are in order I see :D 16:19:07 yeah Gizmokid2005 did the same thing :P 16:19:27 thanks TimClark :) 16:20:24 the title seemed a little odd, did you write it yourself ? 16:20:29 *** excid3 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:20:48 *** abc528 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:20:53 *** excid3 (n=Chris@dial-66-51-190-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 16:20:55 TimClark: of what? 16:20:56 *** abc528 (n=abc528@lns-bzn-31-82-252-192-91.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #portableapps 16:21:01 qwertymodo: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?j1tkk2mtrom here is the front end I told you about for vba-m sdl binary that mudlord made for me for when I did vba-mportable 16:21:22 "Songbird Portable 1.2 Released by PortableApps.com" http://portableapps.com/news/2009-08-18_-_songbird_portable_1.2 16:21:36 ahh. No, that's JohnTHaller's doing 16:21:56 the "by Portableapps.com" just seems odd compared to other releases :/ 16:22:22 awesome thanks zachthibeau 16:22:41 giz is dev, giz is a dev, giz is a dev :P 16:22:52 giz is dev/op :P 16:22:53 haha, yeah that I am TimClark 16:23:40 If there is a revison I gonna slaps you silly :/ 16:23:48 :D 16:23:48 O_O 16:24:13 * ZachThibeau steps back slowly in fear 16:24:17 Lol. I think we should be good :) 16:24:18 :P 16:24:20 1.3 should actually be up soon 16:24:39 yay 16:24:43 Anyway, just stopped in to offer my congratulations to you, got to get back to work 16:24:43 JohnTHaller, TimClark, ZachThibeau: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2009/08/18/portable-songbird-12/ 16:24:47 thanks TimClark 16:25:30 lol 16:25:30 some tunes to bring with you to whatever Windows machine you’re on (ahem, I’m looking at you college computer lab and corporate enterprise users) 16:25:36 I love that line >_< 16:26:12 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps ("Now if only I could leave freenode, w/o leaving #portableapps") 16:26:38 some how I think the link didn't open a new tab for Tim 16:33:43 *** SrgSiler|ZNC is now known as SergentSiler 16:36:38 zachthibeau: so the files i need to put into the Exec\VBA folder are frontend.exe vbam.exe, and sdl.dll? 16:36:46 pretty much 16:38:12 ok, i'll play around with it :) 16:39:06 sure thing :) and it's more advance than the one I made 16:39:53 it's not an oss licensed program but he has given permission to use it at portableapps.com 16:40:04 *** excid3 has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:40:15 ok, will that cause any problems? 16:40:23 Gizmokid2005: Nice line by stevel 16:40:24 nope 16:40:33 JohnTHaller: yeah, I thought that was cool 16:40:41 *** excid3 (n=Chris@dial-66-51-190-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 16:41:18 qwertymodo: he gave permission as long as the binary itself is not modified aka compress with upx (no need since the thing is 80kb big >_<) 16:41:51 *** excid3 has quit (Client Quit) 16:42:28 JohnTHaller: since you're on, I might as well run it past you, will it be ok to include a closed-source frontend (with permission) for an OSS program? 16:43:22 specifically for vba-m, as i've been discussing with zachthibeau? 16:43:42 the sdl binary of vba-m that only uses sdl/opengl 16:44:33 *** excid3 (n=Chris@dial-66-51-190-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 16:46:43 Hmm, we may need to think about that. 16:47:05 I'm not a fan of someone doing closed source frontends to open source software. It's very leechy. 16:49:06 well JohnTHaller this guy that made this frontend is on the dev team of vba-m in fact is the head developer 16:49:43 he's just not a fan of people taking his code and adding "Junk" to it (his words not mine) 16:49:54 Hmm... odd that they'd choose to go that way. In that case it's a bit different. So, yeah, I think I'd be cool with that 16:50:19 *** excid31 (n=Chris@dial-66-51-190-57.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 16:51:55 zachthibeau: i would guess the closed source nature of the front-end perhaps stems from the same issues making you look into digitally signing vba-m? 16:52:01 JohnTHaller: http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/Builds/Contributed_Builds 16:52:04 we're on there too :) 16:52:41 qwertymodo: seperate issue, the reason I want to get a digital signature for vba-m is someone is taking our releases and calling it their own 16:52:52 Ah nice :-) 16:53:43 ah, i see. so a similar, yet unrelated issue i guess 16:53:53 qwertymodo: and they were claiming to fix bugs that don't even exist in our build and not even providing the source to prove it 16:55:17 wow, that's pretty lame 16:55:50 yeah it is 16:57:04 JohnTHaller: looks like some more spam in the U3 apps section 16:57:31 I know. Don't touch it. I'm installing a spam module and need it to analyze it. 16:57:43 I can't so :) and yay for spam module :) 16:57:51 Gizmokid2005 congrats on the release, I hadn't really looked at it much until now, and after finding out it supports iPod syching I may finally ditch iTunes completely :) 16:58:07 qwertymodo: thanks :) I know they've been working hard in iPod support 16:58:26 they even open sourced the exention 16:58:35 I had been playing around with some of the old WinAMP launchers from the forums, but now I won't bother 16:59:01 *** excid3 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:01:15 qwertymodo: nope, no need to 17:01:27 it was a heck of a launcher to write too considering that they use Hex files for the watch folder stuff 17:02:27 Do you know if synching an iPod with SongBird will remove the videos from the iPod or will it just leave them alone? I suppose manually managing would be fine, but I prefer to manage the library in the app and then just sync with the device. 17:02:45 I can't say for sure, I don't sync my ipod with Songbird yet. 17:02:49 I still sync with itunes on my mac 17:03:00 ok, guess I'll just have to try it out ;) 17:06:05 *** drag|away has quit ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )") 17:06:51 * qwertymodo just successfully imported my Majora's Mask Project64 save file into Wii Virtual Console :D 17:09:15 nice 17:09:40 I actually liked MM I prefer ocarina of time though to -ot though it should be in 17:10:22 LOL. JohnTHaller, see this comment:: http://portableapps.com/news/2009-08-18_-_songbird_portable_1.2#comment-125833 17:10:23 lol 17:10:27 ah alright 17:14:46 wow >_< I guess he doesn't know this is free in general and that you are the person that released that one >_< 17:16:01 the fact that its free in general is what gives me the chuckle. I honestly don't mind if people think john did it. I'm just happy to have contributed something that people will certainly use. 17:16:37 wow fail Gizmokid2005 :/ 17:16:41 thats comment... 17:16:44 :/ 17:17:44 heh 17:18:03 hey zachthibeau, I was just looking through my testing folder and I have a VisualBoyAdvanceM.exe that's 800kb and a vbam.exe that's 2,478. Which one's the SDL? 17:18:13 Odd, your name is listed as the poster of the article. well, your login is. 17:18:23 JohnTHaller: I know. 17:18:27 the 800kb one has the icon embedded properly, the bigger one doesn't 17:18:42 qwertymodo: then thats the sdl one 17:18:50 the sdl binary doesn't have an icon 17:18:54 never will 17:19:11 ok, that's fine just clearing out unnecessary files :) 17:19:15 np 17:19:15 Gizmokid2005: I added you to the team page: http://portableapps.com/about/team 17:19:36 thanks JohnTHaller :) 17:19:40 now I'm really official 17:19:43 :D 17:19:53 *** OliverK (n=OliverK@dhcp-224-213.svcc.edu) has joined #portableapps 17:19:54 *** SteveLamerton (n=SteveLam@91.125.154.168) has joined #portableapps 17:20:02 oh, hello OliverK, SteveLamerton :) 17:20:09 hello Gizmokid2005 SteveLamerton 17:20:11 Hello Gizmokid2005, and congrats :) 17:20:14 Heya OliverK 17:20:18 thanks SteveLamerton :) 17:21:28 howdy SteveLamerton 17:21:50 hi SteveLamerton 17:22:06 Just added a few more stories to the press page: http://portableapps.com/about/press/news 17:22:12 Heya ZachThibeau, JohnTHaller 17:22:45 Out of interest why the extra long Songbird title? 17:23:36 JohnTHaller: this is for the latest link in the news article for http://www.buffalonews.com/ is broken there 17:23:39 JohnTHaller: the news page - the Most recent item is broke 17:23:39 yeah 17:23:48 Gonna probably do that for new releases. It's so as they get picked up and tweeted and stuff they get to keep our name on it 17:24:25 heh fixed 17:24:30 congrats Gizmokid2005 17:24:37 thanks OliverK 17:26:33 Ahh I see :) 17:27:35 Ok, added Songbird Portable to the updater info. 17:27:39 zachthibeau: is mudlord actively working on this frontend still? 17:27:52 Now to finish the updater :-) 17:28:20 JohnTHaller: I'm still looking forward to that (even though with my RSS I'm usually quick to update) 17:28:40 Oh for anyone who missed it last night, I added some stuff to the add mode of the updater. Here's what it looks like now: http://portableapps.com/temp/PortableApps.comUpdaterAddPreview3.png 17:29:28 *** mino (i=45e73dba@gateway/web/freenode/x-mnjjwjnjilfdhrkn) has joined #portableapps 17:29:48 *** Whibo_ (i=Whibo@Your.password.is.encrypted.in) has joined #portableapps 17:29:55 Looks nice JohnTHaller :) 17:29:57 *** Whibo_ is now known as Guest88677 17:31:22 will removing the splash screens from the apps' source folder affect it negatively? 17:31:36 mino: no, but it will get replaced when you isntall again 17:31:43 and you wont' be able to compile the launcher without it. 17:34:41 *** prapper has quit ("Page closed") 17:43:02 *** Oni-Neoxes (n=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 17:46:33 *** mino has quit ("Page closed") 17:54:35 *** LOGAN (n=C64@unaffiliated/logan) has joined #portableapps 17:55:19 i found some funny screen capture tool. it makes a screencapture, uploads it to sourceforge and copies url into clipboard 17:55:50 http://vvcap.net 17:56:02 users dont need own webspace set up 17:56:37 might be ideal for quick showing a screenshot (or part). 18:01:46 laters all 18:01:51 time to get ready for class 18:02:07 bye 18:02:50 *** OliverK has quit ("So long, and thanks for all the fish") 18:04:17 anyone know a good screencapture webcam combo taking an image on keypress and then automatically upload it to ftp server 18:04:19 *** Whibo has quit () 18:07:06 *** Guest88677 is now known as Whibo 18:10:25 *** excid31 is now known as excid3 18:10:54 *** excid3 is now known as excid31 18:11:02 *** excid31 is now known as excid3 18:23:00 *** purple has quit ("Only two things are definite, Death and Format C:\") 18:29:59 Is Songbird supposed to take a long time to launch the first time? 18:30:15 yes 18:30:15 qwertymodo: yes 18:30:24 hence the note on the page :) 18:30:26 on flash drives it takes a long time first launch on each pc 18:30:47 "Launch Speed: As Songbird is a more drive-intensive app, it can take as much as a minute or more to start when running from a flash drive. Please be patient." 18:31:19 Ok, it's been about 5 minutes at 50% processor for songbird.exe... from an external HDD 18:31:37 qwertymodo: hmm, not quite that loing 18:31:45 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.245.84) has joined #portableapps 18:32:03 it should be fully ready in ~2 mins, give/take 18:32:12 well I 18:32:24 well I'll just let it run and check back 18:38:11 *** Brian_S has parted #portableapps () 18:40:54 *** sancas has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:03:07 What do you guys think of this? http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable/test#minefield 19:03:31 looks good JohnTHaller 19:03:43 i don't know if I'd use that much of a pre of ff, but that's cool :) 19:04:39 Looks like a neat use of the installer :) 19:04:53 *** mino (i=45e73dba@gateway/web/freenode/x-comzfhcnmukyfkbv) has joined #portableapps 19:05:22 how can i correctly install the gimpshop layout? 19:05:45 I figured I'd do it that way doe testers. Download Squad is gonna pull all the links to PortableAppZ 19:06:07 that's good news JohnTHaller :) 19:06:14 JohnTHaller: you don't like portable appz? 19:07:01 just checking back in, I left for awhile and came back and Songbird is running :) 19:07:08 mino: most of their stuff is illegal, and another good portion is a ripoff of our stuff. 19:07:10 qwertymodo: good :) 19:07:16 Someone who steals our code, removes our name, violates the GPL, violates our trademark and passes our work off as their own? I'm thinking, no. 19:07:34 does the first launch take longer than a subsequent one? 19:07:41 qwertymodo: yes. 19:07:45 good :) 19:08:38 theirs sucks 19:09:34 will the "watch this directory for changes" work if I point it to my PortableApps music folder? (I'm assuming yes since it's a full blown release now) 19:09:42 qwertymodo: yep. 19:09:53 just keeps getting better :D 19:09:58 getting the watch folders to work was the hardest part of the whole thing 19:10:19 what else are the developers working on? 19:10:23 well I'm glad you did :) 19:10:35 qwertymodo: me too. Wouldn't have gone official otherwise 19:10:53 *** mino has quit ("Page closed") 19:11:09 how well do the add-ons work portably? 19:11:23 afaik all the extensions are portable 19:11:30 erm... 19:11:32 work portably 19:11:34 cool 19:11:44 if you find one to the contrary please let me know 19:11:57 I figured like FFP they would mostly work, with perhaps a hiccup here or there 19:12:08 it looks as if Songbird actually requires relative paths instead of hard coded, but I could be wrong 19:12:27 that's nice :) 19:13:00 Ok, I posted it up in the forums for anyone that wants to play with it: 19:13:01 http://portableapps.com/node/20453 19:13:34 Oh JohnTHaller, even better!! Always pulling from the latest trunk!? 19:13:41 it's like our own personal SVN :) 19:15:58 *** qwertymodo is now known as qwertymodo|AFK 19:16:16 Nightly builds I guess Gizmokid2005 19:16:53 SteveLamerton: yeah :) but that's pretty close 19:17:02 Indeed :) 19:22:12 Yup. Now you can test it whenever you'd like :-) 19:23:51 JohnTHaller: Pidgin 2.6.0 must've been released today huh? 19:24:28 *** LOGAN has quit ("MOTAS Rules!") 19:24:37 It was just released, doesn't ever show up as an update yet and hasn't even hit SF 19:25:09 yeah, they already have it updated on their site 19:25:13 and the file is missing 19:25:24 and there's already an email on the mailing list saying WTF where is it!? 19:25:24 Yup. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG! 19:25:28 ROFL 19:25:29 they are 19:26:58 Wow....a TON of fixes in it too 19:27:44 *** Dude__ (i=53ffd1cd@gateway/web/freenode/x-yipzuyhdftyltkyv) has joined #portableapps 19:27:50 Hi 19:28:04 JohnTHaller: LOL! apparently 2.5.9 was released today too 19:28:11 hello Dude__, what can we do for you? 19:28:12 sigh 19:30:20 I was thinking when will PortableApps.com Platform 2.0 beta 4 be released. And try out the catogories feature 19:31:38 it will be release when it is released 19:32:14 Ok 19:32:20 Have a nice day 19:32:27 you too :) 19:32:54 *** Dude__ has quit ("Page closed") 19:35:01 brb... virtualbox install / network reset 19:35:02 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps () 19:35:51 *** markomlm (n=chatzill@pD9556FF1.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:38:37 howdy markomlm 19:39:01 Howdy Zachthibeau 19:39:06 hello markomlm 19:39:34 Hello Giszmokid2005 @all 19:39:44 Heya markomlm 19:40:04 heya SteveLamerton 19:41:01 *** purple (n=purple@80.93.231.198) has joined #portableapps 19:41:07 c-c-c-COMBO BREAKER? 19:41:15 Does anybody know if the Environmentvariables PortableApps.comTemp and PortableApps.comDocuments still exists in the last PAM Beta? 19:42:00 afaik it should be 19:42:21 A couple of errors though http://portableapps.com/node/20432 19:42:30 hi 19:42:35 ermm...wrong window 19:42:39 >_< 19:42:44 Hi Gizmokid2005 ;) 19:44:53 thx 19:47:32 *** RetLaw (n=RetLaw@082-146-105-202.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps 19:52:03 bye 19:52:08 *** markomlm has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.13/2009073022]") 19:57:46 *** Zarggg has quit () 20:11:55 *** SteveLamerton has quit ("Leaving") 20:13:07 *** qwertymodo|AFK is now known as qwertymodo 20:17:21 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 20:22:08 *** JohnTHaller (n=JohnTHal@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 20:22:14 back 20:22:28 welcome back JohnTHaller 20:31:25 yay :D vba-m: spacy51 * r893 /trunk/src/win32/ (Reg.cpp Reg.h VBA.cpp): Add new command line switch: "--configpath YOURPATHHERE" 20:31:34 vba-m now supports a portable path 20:32:15 *** pa_9286 (i=45e73dba@gateway/web/freenode/x-axvsmqcvzkoofzhp) has joined #portableapps 20:32:15 only added because one of our developers changed the way vba-m saved it's ini (now saves to %appdata% so this command line will allows us to make it portable again 20:32:44 to what folder do i install the java thin 20:32:44 ??? 20:32:48 thing? 20:33:49 *** pa_9286 has quit (Client Quit) 20:43:35 *** Zarggg (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 20:58:49 zachthibeau: that's good to hear, but the question is, can I pass custom command-lines through the frontend? 20:58:59 *** TheWarden has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:59:09 qwertymodo: don't know this is just for the mfc build 21:00:17 ok then. any luck on statically linking to D3D? 21:00:46 only 1 version of the directx sdk allowed static linking and unfortunetly it's old 21:01:02 dang 21:01:17 dx8 appearently was the one that could allow it 21:01:34 I'll see about getting an opengl version cooking 21:02:22 wait I know :D 21:02:48 I'll just recompile the latest using NO_D3D and see if it works 21:03:10 sometimes it's sad I don't remember this >_< 21:05:24 since the directx dll's needed are just for direct3d (now I want to work on the portable version again /jk/) 21:05:46 I'll setup a new windows vm and test it out 21:08:12 *** excid3 is now known as excid3|work 21:09:27 I left openal enabled which will whine about not having the openal dll file so I'll include that since I can redistribute that and I find openal gives better sound than directsound even though openal isn't selected by default 21:13:02 so we maynot have to use the sdl binary 21:13:46 qwertymodo: you taking this all in ;) 21:15:59 yeah i think so. you're saying there's a compiler switch to compile the directx version without Direct3D = no d3dxx.dll needed? 21:16:23 I'm hoping so :) 21:16:30 that would be nice 21:16:38 I'm installing a new vm of windows xp to test my new build 21:18:13 lol setting up a whole new vm just to compile one program. i understand, but it's funny that that's how things work out :P 21:19:09 well I have a msdn subscription thats good for 3 years :P I may as well use it :P 21:20:54 i guess so. I'm pretty stoked about signing up for DreamSpark. not nearly as nice as a full MSDN subscription, but still has that kid-in-a-candy-store feel to it 21:21:24 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.245.84) has joined #portableapps 21:21:29 qwertymodo: yup :) 21:21:51 well mine is with Bizspark which is the same idea as DreamSpark but for business starting up 21:21:55 *** sancas has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:21:58 *** sancas_ (n=sancas@190.87.245.84) has joined #portableapps 21:22:02 *** sancas_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:22:09 yeah, i remember you saying that... lucky ;) 21:22:25 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.245.84) has joined #portableapps 21:22:30 *** sancas has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:22:42 my feature product I'm working on is MusicPlay3000 :) 21:30:19 almost done installing the vm 21:52:23 I'm in both dreamspark and bizspark, and my school gives free msdn products as well :P 21:52:31 *** excid3|work is now known as excid3 22:04:23 *** RetLaw has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:26:10 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.245.84) has joined #portableapps 22:29:30 *** sancas has parted #portableapps ("Saliendo") 22:29:54 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.245.84) has joined #portableapps 22:31:32 *** sancas has quit (Client Quit) 22:32:15 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.245.84) has joined #portableapps 22:32:31 *** sancas has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:34:42 *** sancas (n=sancas@190.87.245.84) has joined #portableapps 22:38:01 JohnTHaller: you there? 23:01:07 sup 23:01:35 judging by the comments on that thread in other apps support, should I see if I can build some more move resistance into the launcher? 23:01:46 or is it people not understanding? 23:03:04 I added a note to the Songbird Portable page about it. 23:03:19 It would be tough if they move their whole music library. Not sure we can handle that. 23:04:14 Yeah...the hard part would be modifying the watch folder .tree file, the rest is quite easy to modify via sqlite or something 23:04:20 it's the watch folder that really throws it off 23:04:37 just wanted to get your take on it. 23:20:59 *** ve4jhj (n=ve4jhj@204.16.150.105) has joined #portableapps 23:21:34 *** ve4jhj has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 23:23:27 JohnTHaller: I think I traced down the db folder issue...though that still won't help with people moving the music location... 23:23:40 it /might/ cause an issue with people who move Songbird between different folders 23:23:54 I'll have to test and confirm. if it's true I'll push it with 1.3 23:24:00 that should be out soon 23:32:02 *** palogbot (n=palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 23:32:02 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. Visit us at http://portableapps.com/ | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please keep things polite and avoid any discussions of illegal software | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | Please do not PM anyone without prior permission. | SF CCA Wins: http://portableapps.com/node/20079 23:32:02 Users on #portableapps: palogbot sancas Zarggg @JohnTHaller purple Whibo excid3 abc528 qwertymodo Suiseiseki ptmb ZeroA4 dbdii407 StatBot_ SergentSiler +ZachThibeau tarbo_ Chazz +pabot Bensawsome @Gizmokid2005 Mir 23:32:11 restarted :) 23:33:17 *** Oni-Neoxes (i=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 23:34:49 Yeah, try posting a test of any launcher changes beforehand. Since with 1.3 we're gonna wanna come out same day. 23:35:23 yeah, will do 23:35:46 it should be a minor change, and it won't affect 90% of users, just the ones who move directorys with their apps 23:38:31 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit () 23:50:49 *** ptmb has quit ("Bye") 23:57:27 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK