00:07:37 *** Ross (i=a6eb1977@gateway/web/freenode/x-fsidrqoicauiucqp) has joined #portableapps 00:08:05 *** Ross is now known as Guest76425 00:15:59 *** Guest76425 is now known as ross 00:16:29 *** ross is now known as Guest49579 00:16:48 *** Guest49579 is now known as root-beer 00:17:26 *** root-beer has quit ("Page closed") 00:18:40 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|ZNC 00:19:01 *** root-beer (i=a6eb1977@gateway/web/freenode/x-tyzxhllazwwypnee) has joined #portableapps 00:19:20 hello, am I chatting yet? 00:19:41 yup 00:20:30 OK, I'ts taken me a while to get this far. First, what's the correct way to start a Chat? 00:21:23 I'm not exactly sure what you mean but just type something like you did and we can answer you 00:22:30 root-beer: what looks like the problem you were having before, is you were trying to use the same username that someone else already "owns" 00:22:53 OK, first I went to the URL poratableapps./com/support/livechat. Then I think I have to enter a name (e.g. root-beer) using a / comand. 00:23:22 root-beer: you don't HAVE to enter a name 00:23:28 OK if root-beer is already in use, how do I pick an unused nick name? 00:23:29 you can just use what is assigned when you join 00:23:43 root-beer: ross was already in use, root-beer isn't. If it was, you couldn't use it. 00:25:16 so root-beer is fine, you don't need to change it 00:25:30 When I "joined", I was giveen the name azwwypnee (I think). Is this the assigned nick name? 00:26:08 OK, if root-beer is OK, can I used the same nick name next time? 00:26:24 if someone else hasn't used it 00:26:33 nobody probably will 00:27:22 Is there a way I can see which nick names are in use. Maybe I should just one like Ross4731 which is unlikely that anyone else has? 00:27:41 that works 00:28:09 OK, I think I'm finally ready to ask my qustion. 00:28:31 OK, here is comes 00:29:24 *** SrgSiler|ZNC is now known as SergentSiler 00:29:31 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 00:31:52 I've used portable apps before like firefox, but I tried to make a fresh restart today, and use the "platform" in the hopes that it wou ld create a MENU ZFOLDER (or file) which would autoimatically get hte names of the apps that I install. I got a MENU file alright, but it was empty. Maybe you can point me to some step-by-steps that I need to follow to load "platform" and then load a portable app like firefox and an app 00:33:53 Also, I just got a line that said that SrgSiler|ZNC has changed nick to SergentsSiler. What does this mean and do I need to knos. 00:34:13 that means he changed his nick 00:34:38 and the part after the | means something... 00:35:12 for example, it is currently SrgSiler|afk, the afk means away from keyboard 00:35:32 and no, you don't need to worry ;-) 00:35:54 i don't know what ZNC stands for 00:36:12 If I am chatting with you (Computor), why should I care about SrgSiler| away from keyboard? 00:36:54 Maybe this is a multi[person chat? I thought it was one on one 00:37:09 yeah it is 00:37:44 Is is multiperson or it is one-on-one? 00:37:58 *** Test (i=4514ab3d@gateway/web/freenode/x-hzpmqtwtcqjkhlfq) has joined #portableapps 00:37:59 root-beer: this is an IRC chat, which is multi-person 00:38:07 right now there are ~20 people in here 00:38:09 .wik IRC 00:38:09 "Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is a form of real-time Internet text messaging (chat) or synchronous conferencing." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC 00:38:11 *** Test has quit (Client Quit) 00:38:43 the list of names on the right are the people online 00:38:52 OK. To save time, I'd like to write up myu questions offline, and then include it at the beginning of the chat. 00:39:26 Can I do this by just copying the question into the chat, or is tjhere a way to "attach" it. 00:39:38 just paste it in root-beer 00:40:18 you don't have to type your whole question at once though, you 00:40:20 can do it 00:40:28 a little bit at a time 00:40:33 sortof like this 00:40:52 Just one more question -- are all the people with names on the right listening in. If not, can I tell who is listening to me? 00:40:56 that's not encouraged Computator, root-beer, but it is ok. Preferably one question/whole sentence per line 00:40:57 but you usually do a whole sentence at a time 00:41:08 root-beer: those are the people who could see what's going on 00:41:14 most of the time they aren't active or paying attention to the chat 00:41:38 And if they have a comment or insight, they could then join in. Right? 00:41:46 yeah 00:42:53 I think I understand. I'll compose some suscint questions and come back later. Also, if @Gizmokid2005> another chatter or something else? 00:43:20 root-beer: just post them to the channel 00:43:27 if someone is here and can answer, they will 00:43:43 yeah, I am kinda new here, gizmokid2005 has been here for a long time 00:44:47 OK Gizmok and Computaor, thanks for getting me reacquintled with chat. The last time I chatted was on Unix about 25 years ago. Havewa good evening (both of you) and evryhone else on the roight too. 00:45:15 your welcome :) 00:48:52 *** root-beer has quit (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00:50:52 *** root-beer (i=a6eb1977@gateway/web/freenode/x-tyzxhllazwwypnee) has joined #portableapps 00:54:22 OK, I just tried to type "/help" to get more info on IRC, but nothing happened. How can I can IRC help? 00:56:36 help! 00:56:37 root-beer: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 00:57:23 OK, where can I find the commands etc. for IRC? 00:58:14 here is a list of almost all of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_commands 00:58:25 but that os probably overwhelming 00:59:15 here is a better one http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html 01:00:24 OK, thanks very much. I'm going "away" now. 01:00:38 here is some general info about IRC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat 01:00:39 ok 01:02:32 *** root-beer has quit ("Page closed") 01:05:35 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|ZNC 01:08:04 *** WastePotato has quit ("Leaving") 01:09:10 *** Oni-Neoxes (n=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 01:15:24 *** Res2216firestar (i=Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 01:22:45 *** Res2216firestar has quit ("Leaving") 01:33:01 *** OsterPenPen (i=86275229@gateway/web/freenode/x-dizrurtugajmzxwg) has joined #portableapps 01:33:10 Greetings all. 01:34:24 Question: I'm trying to add PendriveLinux to the list of apps in the PortableApps menu. Is there any easy way for me to add a program not specifically supported? 01:35:02 put the app's folder in the PortableApps Directory... 01:35:28 http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps 01:35:46 Doh. Figured it would be blindingly obvious. I'll give it a shot. 01:35:52 *** OsterPenPen is now known as OPP|WorkinAweigh 01:37:51 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("Opera Web Browser 10.50 alpha preview! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://www.opera.com/") 01:39:42 *** pa_7921 (i=5e62ef3b@gateway/web/freenode/x-gjbrziwifmhkrqxe) has joined #portableapps 01:40:13 Hello What is the name by which the program that is making programs portable? 01:41:14 Hello What is the name by which the program that is making programs portable? 01:41:32 what do you mean? 01:42:57 How to make programs portable ? 01:43:48 you usually have to edit the source code so the program won't change anything on the host computer 01:44:09 or make a program that will undo any changes it makes 01:45:08 or do you mean how to package a app once it is portable? 01:46:26 pa_7921: your answer is in the field guide, which can be found 01:46:30 .def field_guide 01:46:30 field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868 01:46:34 there ^ 01:46:53 yes 01:48:09 hey Gizmokid, did you make GizmoBot? 01:48:51 Computator: not really 01:49:08 I host him and helped modify some features. 01:49:14 but I didn't write it from scratch 01:49:26 oh ok, does it have a help thing? 01:49:37 Is there any way to add a .bat file to the apps menu? 01:49:59 yes, in the appinfo.ini file 01:50:12 Computator: yes, just PM GizmoBot with .commands 01:50:18 but the PortableApps Installer won't work with them 01:50:29 ok thx gizmokid 01:51:30 oh wait, you are just adding a folder, it probably won't have an appinfo.ini file 01:52:22 Just a link to the right chapter of the manual would be amazing. I can RTFM and try to ask more intelligent questions. 01:52:43 *** Suiseiseki (n=POKJ@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 01:52:47 :) i do that all the time, just a sec... 01:52:50 OPP|WorkinAweigh: adding bat files to the menu aren't /officially/ supported 01:52:57 OPP|WorkinAweigh: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps 01:53:06 take off the #addingotherapps tag and that's the manual 01:53:12 I already sent him that 01:53:22 it is??? 01:53:29 yes 01:53:35 pretty much 01:54:01 or you can look in the Other folder in the PortableApps.com folder 01:54:18 i think he was looking for this http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format 01:54:47 I'll check it out, but here's a link to another document describing it in detail: http://portableapps.com/node/21757 01:54:54 Computator: that's just the spec for our apps 01:55:01 OPP|WorkinAweigh: yes, that will work too 01:55:29 but like I said, there's not "official" support for it yet 01:55:50 and there isn't going to be, i already asked john 01:55:54 :( 01:56:51 That's a shame. 01:56:54 that other thing opp had is just part of the link i gave him 01:57:16 to the spec that is 01:58:22 he said they are too "unprofessional" and it is easy to make a launcher in c or whatever in a few minutes, which is true 01:59:07 although you could make a c (or whatever) exe that launches a batch file 02:03:55 *** pa_7921 has quit ("Page closed") 02:25:31 OK, is there a way to make it so that .exe files in .\PortableApps\ that are used by the main executable don't appear in the list? 02:26:27 I don't think so, those are supposed to be in \PortableApps\\AppNamePortable 02:26:40 Ahh, I see. 02:26:47 yes 02:26:48 you can 02:26:54 depends on what version of the menu you are using 02:27:12 in the latest stable 1.5.2? just right-click, rename it, and put a hyphen in front of the app name 02:27:19 Yes. It's 1.5.2 02:27:22 in the beta of the menu, just right-click and choose hide. 02:27:23 did you look at the spec i put in? i think it talks about that. 02:27:43 oh yeah, that works, but that is a "per menu" option 02:27:57 I think I figured it out. Nm. 02:27:59 if you are making a app you should do it differently 02:28:00 Computator: what do you mean per menu? 02:28:37 well, if you put that app on a different pa installation you will have to hide them in there too 02:28:49 Computator: yes...but this is for your menu 02:28:57 in app development it should be handled differently 02:28:58 so you put them in the other folder than you don't have to 02:29:02 such as the way that OpenOffice.org is. 02:29:08 yeah 02:29:30 that's what I was talking about 02:29:49 I typoed the name of appinfo.ini. That was my problem. 02:30:04 oh ok :) 02:34:06 * OPP|WorkinAweigh crosses fingers and hits the button 02:34:30 Haha! Success! 02:34:35 I am now running this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/run-pendrivelinux-2009-in-windows/ 02:34:42 via PA. 02:34:49 in some other part of the world a kitten explodes 02:34:55 congragulations 02:35:19 I am most happy. Now I just need to configure PDL... 02:35:26 Anyway, I am off. Thank you all for your assistance. 02:35:28 *** OPP|WorkinAweigh has quit ("Donke") 02:52:11 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Quit... D:") 03:18:34 *** pa_5434 (i=de42afd5@gateway/web/freenode/x-qkdyhbbaavjvswxz) has joined #portableapps 03:18:47 hello 03:19:02 hi 03:19:17 How can I uninstall the system? 03:20:05 I want to remove the potableapps from my U disk,Could you help me? 03:20:25 *** excid3|asus has quit ("Leaving.") 03:21:02 pa_5434: just delete the files 03:21:38 you just need to delete the PortableApps folder, the autorun.inf file, and StartPortableapps.exe 03:21:49 I have done like this, but I can't rename the u disk. 03:22:12 pa_5434: then the autorun.inf file must still be present. 03:22:40 It is also have been deleted. 03:22:58 http://portableapps.com/node/5819 03:25:47 l've done all these steps. But problem is still there. 03:26:47 And my flash drive was branded with PortaleApps. How can I change it? 03:27:49 try right clicking on the drive and clicking on properties 03:27:59 then change the name at the top 03:37:20 *** OliverK (n=WifiWomb@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 03:47:45 The information in properties has changed. but in the explorer the name is till "portableapps". 03:48:03 you're editing the ini file? 03:48:08 eject and reinsert the drive 03:48:14 then the changes will be present 03:48:19 No. 03:48:21 ohhh, yeah, i forgot that 03:48:44 teach me to jump in without the backstory 03:48:46 just a sec 03:48:52 when you delete the ini file (which he did) you have to do that too 03:49:08 he is removing portableapps 03:49:15 oh 03:49:28 yeah, just delete everything and resinsert the stick :) 03:49:28 (or trying to) 03:49:55 I have removed and reinsert. 03:50:17 But I get the same problem. 03:50:36 then you must have not deleted the autorun.inf file 03:50:49 that's the only explanation 03:50:49 I have done 03:50:55 do you have anything at all on the drive? 03:51:09 you sure? you set it to show hidden files? 03:51:19 Yes, I do. 03:51:23 Computator: shouldn't be hidden 03:51:33 it is by default 03:51:52 ? 03:52:04 not here . . . 03:52:08 autorun.inf is set as hidden by default 03:53:05 Oliverk: you probably have it set to show hidden files and/or have edited the inf in the past 03:53:14 fine 03:54:27 oh, oops, i thought pa_5434 said that 03:54:40 sorry, don't mean to be pushy 03:54:45 that's fine 03:55:01 yeah. AFAIK its not hidden by defualt. I don't think it ever was. 03:55:31 if he's deleted teh file, maybe he needs a reboot or try it on another system. Our system doesn't permanately modify the drive 03:56:18 idk, but it is hidden by default on mine and the instructions here talk about unhiding it too http://portableapps.com/node/5819 03:56:43 that's why i think he didn't really delete it, cuz it doesn't modify it 03:57:07 mabye they recently changed if it is hidden or not 03:57:17 i would try a different computer or a reboot. 03:57:44 its possible that windoze got stuck in a loop 03:58:24 yeah, if i boot with a drive in the computer it won't change the label if i eject it 03:59:02 if i dont have it in at boot and then insert it it will switch back when i eject 03:59:05 :P 03:59:15 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 03:59:35 Computator: never tried that. I usually just set the appinfo.ini and go. 03:59:57 * Computator is confused 04:00:07 what does that have to do with it? 04:00:36 i am talking about any drive that i use btw, not just portableapps 04:01:20 Thanks for all. Bye. 04:01:26 *** pa_5434 has quit ("Page closed") 04:01:51 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 04:02:10 Computator: once I set up the information in my appinfo.ini I don't change it. 04:02:26 do you mean autorun.inf? 04:02:36 ph. yeah. 04:02:39 oh* 04:02:59 oh ok 04:03:07 me too 04:03:10 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 04:03:58 i meant that (for example) if i stick a cd in the drive and then boot my pc it uses the cd's label as expected... 04:04:25 if i eject that cd and put in a different one it still shows the same label... 04:04:51 wow. 04:04:56 never seen that 04:05:07 if however there is nothing in the drive when i boot the computer it works right... 04:05:23 when i put in the cd it changes to that cd's label... 04:05:56 when i switch it for another it will use the new cd's label, just like it's supposed to 04:06:21 and i think it does a somewhat similar thing with flashdrives, etc... 04:06:33 it's a weird/annoying bug 04:07:38 btw, do you know what ZNC stands for? like with ZachT|ZNC 04:07:49 that I don know :) 04:07:52 do* 04:08:02 ZNC is a bouncing service for IRC 04:08:33 sorta like a personal irc server that logs into channels and brings them back to one place for you 04:08:40 i haven't been able to use one yet 04:08:44 .g ZNC 04:08:44 OliverK: http://znc.in/ 04:08:48 hmm. 04:08:52 .wiki znc 04:08:53 oh, i did see that...i thought it was some other type of thing 04:09:02 .wik znc 04:09:03 "The Zomi National Congress (ZNC) is the name of a political party in Burma, registered in 1988." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zomi_National_Congress 04:09:08 lol! 04:09:13 .wik znc irc 04:09:14 "Wikipedia:WikiProject IRC collaboration is based on IRC, in their Freenode channel #Wikipedia-En preferably, and jurisdicts all Wikipedia articles." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_IRC 04:09:20 heh 04:09:24 GizmoBot: fail 04:09:31 that's all the stuff i found too 04:09:43 i thought it was something like afk 04:09:48 guess not 04:15:22 .wik bnc 04:15:23 "The BNC (Bayonet Neill-Concelman) connector is a very common type of RF connector used for terminating coaxial cable." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_connector 04:15:36 .wik irc shell 04:15:37 "Traditionally a shell account was a user account on a remote server which gave you access to a unix shell via a command-line interface protocol such as telnet or ssh." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_account 04:15:48 .g znc application 04:15:49 OliverK: http://www.file-extensions.org/znc-file-extension 04:15:53 drat 04:16:11 laters guys. Time for making of the bed and then sleeping in the bed 04:16:18 *** OliverK has quit () 04:38:40 *** Computator has quit () 04:54:13 *** excid3|asus (n=Chris_Ol@dial-66-51-190-5.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 05:00:32 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 06:31:09 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 07:35:31 *** WastePotato has quit ("Leaving") 08:22:02 *** WastePotato (n=WastePot@unaffiliated/wastepotato) has joined #portableapps 08:52:24 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:34:47 *** ChrisMorgan (n=ChrisMor@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 09:34:47 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator 09:42:50 *** purple (n=purple@212.200.234.130) has joined #portableapps 11:19:48 *** Horusofoz (n=Jeffrey_@114-30-96-187.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 11:20:00 Smells like spam - http://portableapps.com/news/2009-11-24_-_portableapps.com_format_1.0#comment-138803 11:23:44 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps () 11:24:29 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:31:03 *** Oni-Neoxes (n=Oni-Neox@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 12:06:07 *** TheWarden has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]") 12:07:14 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit ("Quit... 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 16:42:40 *** Whibo (n=Whibo@unaffiliated/whibo) has joined #portableapps 16:46:49 *** ptmb (n=PTMblogg@a83-132-128-25.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 17:02:45 *** Whibo has quit () 17:28:24 *** pa_2539 (i=c317ed75@gateway/web/freenode/x-vitgaxvbekawbrxj) has joined #portableapps 17:29:32 hi stupid question... i'm trying to install the suite in the usb and it says that the file isn't a valid win32 app 17:31:07 hello anybody 17:40:00 *** vicc_pt (i=59d6e614@gateway/web/freenode/x-bxlujvoaxwqfrjxg) has joined #portableapps 17:40:26 hi pa_2539 17:40:39 do you need help? 17:42:30 pa_2539 17:44:28 ya please! 17:44:46 stupid question... i'm trying to install the suite in the usb and it says that the file isn't a valid win32 app 17:45:22 i've a simple 1G usb and want to try out this kind of app 17:46:19 i think you may have to re-download the suite or run an anti-virus scan on that file 17:46:41 already done... 17:47:19 and you re-downloaded it? 17:47:27 yes 17:48:11 scan your entire pc, you may have virus in another place 17:49:33 ok tks.. 17:50:20 this has already happened with me ( not in this site) 17:50:21 *** Bjorn_H (n=BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 17:52:44 pa_2539 17:53:02 what edition of the suite did you choose? 17:59:04 pa_2539: i'm leaving. maybe someone will appear to help you. if it doesn't happen, post a forum topic. 17:59:54 and, be careful with the space in your usb if you picked the full suite 18:00:06 *** Darwin4Ever (n=Darwin4E@082-146-104-078.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps 18:00:18 *** vicc_pt has quit ("Page closed") 18:01:48 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:02:29 *** pa_2539 has quit ("Page closed") 18:19:49 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:23:22 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:45:15 *** ptmb is now known as ptmb|away 18:47:45 *** excid3|asus (n=Chris_Ol@dial-66-51-190-7.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 19:01:28 *** TheWarden (i=thewarde@venhost.venmarces.com) has joined #portableapps 19:13:36 *** TheWarden has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]") 20:02:39 *** ptmb|away is now known as ptmb 20:23:54 *** ptmb is now known as ptmb|away 20:53:28 *** andreasma (n=andi@79.227.84.116) has joined #portableapps 20:59:04 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 21:01:47 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:15:45 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 21:23:52 *** excid3|asus (n=Chris_Ol@dial-66-51-190-41.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 21:32:18 *** andreasma has quit ("Verlassend") 21:35:01 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 21:41:36 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:57:03 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 21:57:08 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 21:58:19 *** Suiseiseki has quit ("Opera Web Browser 10.50 alpha preview! 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