00:12:57 *** dzjepp (~menace2s@adsl-99-31-122-16.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 00:22:30 *** dabossbv has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:37:35 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 00:37:36 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:39:27 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Client Quit) 00:39:59 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 00:43:34 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 00:45:44 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 01:18:42 everybody havin fun? 01:18:59 *** excid3|asus1 (~Chris_Oli@adsl-99-152-44-170.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 01:19:36 *** excid3|asus has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01:19:53 back y'all 01:22:11 wb 01:22:18 yeah, bioshock 2 is great ;) 01:22:19 Check out 2nd profiles yet? :-) 01:22:27 I just finished Mass Effect 2. 01:22:34 nice, how was the game? 01:22:54 ME2 is solid. Player through ME1 twice already. Gonna start a new ME2 game maybe next week. 01:23:28 Oh, so I joined PortableFreeware.com: http://www.portablefreeware.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5933 Whaddya think... good idea, bad idea? 01:25:33 well let's say over at Portable Freeware, you have the good the bad and the down right ugly people, you have people that support you and you have people that are meh about the idea and then there are the people that don't like PortableApps.com 01:26:03 Oh I know. I've seen some of the postings before. But I figured it was worth a try to participate a bit. 01:26:55 well for what it is worth, I think people would be interested 01:27:12 They have a different demographic than PA.c but now that we do freeware, I figured there is more overlap. 01:28:25 I also figured it couldn't hurt for some people there to actually be able to interact with me... hopefully realizing I'm not the enemy of PFC they think I am :-) 01:29:10 Think it's worth a shot? 01:29:15 well I think so 01:29:35 keep in mind this is the forum (which I'm sure you know) where lupo hangs out in too 01:29:55 *** Res2216firestar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:30:06 Yeah, I know. I'll try and be civil even though he's ripped us off a few times. 01:31:05 I'm more concerned about him being not civil than you :P 01:31:10 heh 01:31:20 i agree 01:31:39 He's welcome to be uncivil. But I'm not big on getting drawn in. I'll be polite and state my case when warranted if it comes to anything. 01:32:21 in that case there is a saying that I have, Be nice to your enemies, it's like dumping hot coal on them :P 01:32:28 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.8.107) has joined #portableapps 01:32:29 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Client Quit) 01:33:31 Honestly, I don't look at Lupo as an enemy. He has some dev chops. I just wish he employed them to better use and was better about following the GPL/trademark guidelines and put his talents to better use. 01:34:15 JohnTHaller: That's good :) 01:34:27 He gave me about 4 more langs for eXpresso a while ago :) 01:35:31 That's cool. Hopefully he'll just use that rather than trying to make it seem like he created it. 01:36:26 He is :D 01:36:31 Think it's a bit odd I just show up on PFC with a simple post? I thought that might throw some people. 01:37:33 nah most people do that anyways 01:37:41 *** pa_3435 (~43cec189@gateway/web/freenode/x-outkgrcmmnyaowbs) has joined #portableapps 01:37:52 howdy pa_3435 how can we be of assistance? 01:38:15 I need to download the portable application suite but I can't form sourceforge 01:38:29 there is a loop when trying to download 01:38:39 pa_3435: What's your location? :'( 01:38:42 this is happening with every sourceforge download 01:38:46 I am on Puerto Rico 01:39:03 have you tried to change the mirror? 01:39:06 SourceForge.net banned a couple contries a while back. 01:39:17 Yeah, but no Puerto Rico. 01:39:32 Did you try to select a different mirror? 01:39:45 Which one should i choose 01:39:55 pa_3435: Any but the one you WERE using :P 01:40:12 *** Joji (~ad21b716@gateway/web/freenode/x-nokgwudnjmbkjyva) has joined #portableapps 01:40:15 hello? 01:40:16 jeje. let 01:40:16 I try this rigth know 01:40:23 can someoen help me please 01:40:28 Try this one: http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/PortableApps.com%20Suite/PortableApps.com%20Suite%201.6/PortableApps.com_Suite_Setup_1.6_English.exe 01:40:29 ughhh 01:40:41 Hi Joji, how can we help you? 01:40:50 I wonder if anyone knows how to uninstall portable apss thing 01:40:53 that i installed 01:40:55 onto my usb 01:40:58 just in case 01:41:00 Joji: What version of the menu do you have? 01:41:01 u know... 01:41:05 hold on 01:41:14 newest 01:41:14 In 1.6, just right click on the app, and select "Uninstall" 01:41:15 1.6 01:41:18 Sure, instructions are right here: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#uninstalling 01:41:21 thanks 01:41:26 He means uninstall the platform/suite, not just an app. 01:41:35 Ah, sorry. :( 01:41:51 Exelent, people , thanks a lot, know it works 01:41:56 Exelent 01:41:59 pa_3435: Great, glad to help. 01:42:01 Thanks a lot 01:42:08 bye 01:42:15 pa_3435: Have a good one 01:42:15 *** pa_3435 has quit (Client Quit) 01:42:29 uhm ok i just did wat u said mr Thaller 01:42:35 and theres a problem 01:42:40 What's up? 01:42:43 well u know the icon that hs the usb 01:42:51 how do i change it back to normal 01:42:58 Yup. You need to unplug and replug for Windows to see the change. 01:43:04 ohhhhh 01:43:06 alright... 01:43:09 thanks very much 01:43:12 Yeah, Explorer caches it 01:43:15 Sure thing, Joji 01:43:32 KOOOl 01:43:37 it turns back to normal! 01:44:00 awesome, im going to tell ur support team or something that ur a nice guy :) 01:44:04 and u were very patient ;) 01:44:11 Joji: Yup. Were you just trying to uninstall to see if it works? Or did you have some problem with it? 01:44:19 yes i was just trying 01:44:25 cause i don't want problems to occur 01:44:31 like no install means oh no! 01:44:31 Joji: Thanks. I'm the lead developer and supporter :-) 01:44:33 lol 01:44:36 :O 01:44:38 kool 01:44:45 nice... 01:45:06 actually, JohnTHaller is THE JohnTHaller who started it all ;) 01:45:13 WTF!? 01:45:15 whoaaa 01:45:27 thats amazing... 01:45:35 Heh. Guilty. Started it with Portable Firefox in March 2004 :-) 01:45:37 so u get pretty well paid for makinga site like this? 01:45:47 like companies sponsor or something? 01:46:02 Nope. I'm actually in dept because of it at the moment. But we're working on making it self-sufficient with as couple partnerships. 01:46:10 portable firefox... i like portable google chrome better 01:46:20 We just need to be careful it doesn't wind up only working with one vendor like U3 did. 01:46:28 dept? oh no... 01:46:36 Ah, the new Chrome is coming out shortly. 4.0 needed some extra testing. 01:46:41 U3? never heard of it... probably ur host or something? 01:46:53 i hate everytime when i go onto chrom 01:46:58 A similar thing to PA.c. Came out after us. Never caught on. 01:47:04 my WOT asks me to snycro 01:47:09 cause i always delete everything err u know 01:47:21 ctr + shift + delete ? 01:48:29 Ughhh I shouldn't be bothering u guys anymore, thanks for the help 01:48:35 im guessing other ppl need help too 01:48:45 so see ya, bi :) 01:48:58 Heh, it's ok. Have a good one, Joji 01:49:05 thanks... 01:49:10 *** Joji has quit (Quit: Page closed) 01:49:29 JohnTHaller: PortableApps.com came before U3? 01:49:35 heck yes 01:49:38 Yup 01:50:05 I remember when I first say PortableApps.com when it first started and it was definetly before U3 01:50:09 **say =saw 01:50:17 Oh. :P 01:50:26 I came here originally for U3 support :P 01:50:46 thats because John did some U3 packages for a little bit :P 01:50:59 I know :P 01:51:05 Firefox for U3 is still at 2.0 :P 01:51:06 I built Firefox, Thunderbird and OpenOffice.org for them. When I left, they stopped doing new versions. 01:51:48 They tried to force my hand with a Firefox release, I said no and walked. Honestly, I think the lack of updates is what did them in. 01:52:23 JohnTHaller: since U3 is practically dead and you no longer support the U3 versions of Firefox etc wouldn't it make sense to finally close the U3 forum? 01:52:59 Not quite yet. I'm working on a way to help U3 folks switch over to PA.c. That way they're not left stranded just because a closed source product died. 01:53:11 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:53:14 ahh ok 01:53:23 makes sense 01:54:25 that's very kind of you :) 01:54:35 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.188.185) has joined #portableapps 01:54:41 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:54:48 howdy Scriptdaemon 01:55:20 Well, you figure the U3 end users didn't know what they were getting themselves into. 01:55:42 ZachThibeau, question. In PChat's server list (the .conf file), what do F and D mean? 01:56:07 I assume it still uses those from XChat. 01:56:09 Scriptdaemon: are you talking about Servlist_.conf? 01:56:12 Yeah. 01:56:45 and since functionality wise nothing has changed much it still uses much of XChat's behaviours 01:57:15 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:57:36 Alright, so what purpose do they serve? 01:57:57 h/o I'm pulling up my config to follow along 01:58:03 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:58:26 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:58:36 F is usually a number like 19, D is usually 0 (from the defaults). 01:58:51 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:58:52 For each server. 01:59:27 just a moment, rummiging through XChat's documentation, I remember seeing something about that there 01:59:41 Sorry about all that :9 02:00:03 Ah, I tried Googling, but didn't come up with anything (mainly because I wasn't sure what to search for). 02:02:14 here we go :) http://xchatdata.net/Using/Servlist-conf 02:02:22 F = flags 02:02:50 D is which server in the server list for the selected network 02:03:37 Ah, k. 02:03:37 so like I said it's default behaviour inhereted by PChat from XChat on how it handles connections etc 02:04:56 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 02:06:31 there :D 02:06:49 fixed that aweful looking pitmap I had in the about dialog 02:06:51 :P 02:08:15 also includes a special thanks to NeoRame for designing PChats logo/icon :) 02:11:51 Did you remove some servers from the default list? 02:12:10 no I added 2 actually 02:12:17 *** Joji (~ad21b716@gateway/web/freenode/x-hopcdwirsltwcjmx) has joined #portableapps 02:12:27 Hmm, a few seem to be missing. 02:12:32 Oh ughhh hi Mr. John Thaller Sir 02:12:56 one of them is my own IRC server (which seems to be down and I can't even ssh to my server to reload it) and I also added Dave Dixon's server to it too thats about all I did 02:13:02 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 02:13:08 *** StatBot (~StatBot@c-76-19-255-93.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:13:08 *** StatBot has quit (Changing host) 02:13:08 *** StatBot (~StatBot@unaffiliated/bensawsome/bots/bensbots) has joined #portableapps 02:13:13 Scriptdaemon: possibly, the codebase is based off of the latest XChat SVN 02:13:16 I decided to uninstall that app... the portable ap thing anyways... kinda useless since its not compatible with other 02:13:18 portable aps 02:13:30 sorry about that 02:13:32 like it wont show in the list 02:13:37 Ah, so maybe they removed them because they were down or someething. 02:13:54 Scriptdaemon: -dev for this 02:13:57 Joji: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps 02:14:04 ya sar3th 02:14:11 ohhhh another link 02:14:13 cool 02:14:17 :) 02:14:23 oh no no... 02:14:32 like aps that arnte from this site 02:14:59 portable aps from like say, this site: http://www.pendriveapps.com/ 02:15:09 ya... 02:15:13 but its ok 02:15:20 i organized my files well :) 02:16:04 but it obviously doesn't reconize other programs not from this site am i correct? 02:16:05 read the link Joji, you can add these apps as well 02:16:14 ... 02:16:17 ohhh k 02:16:20 thanks again! 02:16:21 lol 02:16:21 no, they have to be in the right place, then it'll detect them 02:16:37 "For example, if you have a portable program MyApp.exe, you could create a folder called X:\PortableApps\MyApp\ and place MyApp.exe and all its files within there." 02:16:38 ;) 02:16:40 yes i just remembered... theres folder where u put those aps in and in reconizes 02:16:43 right right... 02:16:45 my bad! 02:16:53 thanks again... 02:17:46 Brb. 02:17:51 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:19:02 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 02:19:37 * rcmaehl has an idea for PortableApps.... PortableApps on a DVD-RW 02:24:20 *** GizmoBot (~GizmoBot@gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 02:24:21 Hello GizmoBot and welcome to #portableapps. If you need assistance, just ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. Someone will respond as soon as they can. 02:24:23 GizmoBot is the official bot of #Gizmokid2005 and #PortableApps. 02:24:27 Hi ZachThibeau! 02:24:39 O_o 02:24:53 wow...not sure what all that noise was... 02:25:04 You heard it too 02:25:05 ¿ 02:25:06 probably has to do with IRCd7 02:25:45 possibly, however I need to fix my script as it's saying hello before the user joins :/ 02:28:52 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 02:30:01 Hey, when you say "to bundle a custom version of our software on your device or to distribute our software" does it mean that you can create a custom PAP from my organization? If so, will you please? 02:30:22 for* 02:34:28 that mean's you can make a partnership with them and they will give you permission to copy it all onto you usb drive 02:34:32 but you have to do it 02:35:32 ... 02:35:48 Layman's terms please 02:35:53 no 02:36:05 is the direct answer to your question 02:36:08 afaik atleast 02:36:35 rcmaehl: Hi, what do you need? 02:36:46 john knows all :3 02:37:17 I would like to make a Custom PAP to distribute to spread the word of my organization. 02:37:26 What kind of organization? 02:37:46 Non-profit COmputer Support 02:38:04 Ah. You want to bundle it on drives and give em away or sell em? 02:38:26 Give them away 02:39:25 Either way, you can actually do the suite for free as long as its unmodified. There's also the option to do a custom theme and branding for as little as a few cents a drive depending on volume... that's more geared towards bigger commercial folks, though. 02:39:48 ...hmmm 02:39:59 About how much are wwe talking about 02:41:04 Depends on volume. Though if you're a non-profit and it's not for sale, I think we'd be col with you doing a custom theme on it free. 02:41:29 KThx 02:41:39 but the company has to buy the drives themselves right? 02:42:11 Drop a note to me from the contact page and we can assist with the setup. Help you easily add a link to your website as a menu item and stuff. 02:42:21 :D 02:52:17 Oh hey John Thaller 02:52:18 ur back 02:52:28 Sar3th helped me again. :) 02:52:32 Yeah, just for a couple minutes. Fighting a migraine. 02:52:34 i mean instead 02:52:34 Good :-) 02:52:46 migraine... u have a cold? 02:53:00 JohnTHaller, Try Drinking Slim Milk 02:53:01 err headache right? 02:53:04 Nope. Just a migraine. But a bad one I've been losing a fight to. 02:53:15 ohhh k 02:53:22 skim milk? 02:53:23 i like soy bean better 02:53:25 its sweat 02:53:33 and it takes soy 02:53:34 yeah 02:53:42 but i cant drink it everday 02:53:44 skim milk I mena 02:53:47 mean* 02:54:01 hmm... it does seem to be one of the things recommended 02:54:10 they put sugar in them unless u buy the unsweetened ones... but it takes blahhh 02:54:21 use cold fx!!! 02:54:25 it always works for me 02:54:29 i got friging cold 02:54:34 1 or 2 days later, its gone! XD 02:54:51 very awesome drug 02:55:14 but if its minor migraine then i guess advil? 02:55:20 dunno 02:55:27 *** dzjepp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:55:53 GTG, Bye everyone 02:56:00 mhm see ya friend 02:56:02 *** dzjepp (~menace2s@adsl-99-31-122-16.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 02:56:02 Hello there and welcome to the channel, if you need assistance, just ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. Someone will respond as soon as they can. 02:56:07 *** rcmaehl has parted #portableapps ("Callarse o Achmend se matarte con los gatos que comió a través de su cable de teclado y que ahora están comiendo lejos en su CPU. JK.") 02:56:24 wow my first c plugin works :D 02:56:26 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:56:26 Hello there and welcome to the channel, if you need assistance, just ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. Someone will respond as soon as they can. 02:56:33 c plugin? wats a c plugin? 02:56:35 Did full strength advil dose. Nothing. Did imitrex, helped a little. 02:56:37 ... 02:56:38 *** kai_62656 has quit (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net) 02:56:46 wats that? 02:57:44 Portable IRC??? never knew about irc whats that 02:57:53 err whats that program anyways... 02:57:56 oh well 02:58:02 asking too many questions... lol 02:58:24 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02:58:41 Joji: IRC is the system we communicate through right now 02:59:12 you use the webchat from our webiste, but other people use client applications on their computer, just as me ;) 02:59:26 Alright, I'm gonna head out guys. CHat with you all later. 02:59:35 JohnTHaller1: I find that the only way I can get rid of migraines anymore is with one or two Excedrine Migraine Extra Strength pills 02:59:39 cya JohnTHaller1 03:00:05 Yeah. I'm not supposed to take excedrin because of the kidney thing. 03:00:20 figures :( hope it gets better JohnTHaller1, cya 03:00:51 bye JohnTHaller1 03:01:36 Later all 03:01:38 *** JohnTHaller1 has parted #portableapps (None) 03:07:20 *** rbrt13 (~Robert@ppp-30.221.dialinfree.com) has joined #portableapps 03:07:20 Hello there and welcome to the channel, if you need assistance, just ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. Someone will respond as soon as they can. 03:07:42 bad ZachThibeau 03:07:54 I'm going to kick you for that spam if you keep it up 03:08:08 h/o I'm trying to fix that 03:08:14 and technically it isn't spam 03:08:27 spam is if I promote something 03:09:03 unwanted messages are spam ;) 03:10:03 technically then you should be banning MaienM too for his "palogbot automatically rejoined" messages ;) 03:10:21 Hey Mr Haller, how do u unhide hidden items in portable aps program? 03:10:33 ZachThibeau: MaienM doesn't spam every single time a person joins :P 03:10:53 nvmnvm 03:11:02 stupid question again... i can just check the faqs 03:11:06 srry X( 03:11:07 Joji: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#hidingicons 03:11:11 ;) 03:11:11 lol its fine 03:11:22 we kinda are used to question that are in the faq 03:11:24 xD 03:11:33 sar3th: I'm trying to fix that man trust me, I'm setting a conf list where it checks of the user has been on before and if it finds the username then it will ignore that username 03:17:48 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 03:17:48 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator 03:18:31 * ChrisMorgan wonders why people are trying to impersonate him 03:26:17 Who here created the "portable app" prgram 03:26:21 cause who ever created... 03:26:35 add a "help" orgeting started guide 03:26:38 for newbs 03:26:40 like me 03:27:01 like u know, a guide after installation? 03:27:16 quick guide? 03:27:58 whoa... hahaha, my whois server is in germany! XD 03:37:10 Joji: could you please explain what you're asking about? 03:39:41 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 03:48:12 *** WastePotato has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04:06:10 *** rbrt13 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04:10:28 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:13:54 *** Computator (~Computato@69-20-171-61.static.ida.net) has joined #portableapps 04:13:57 *** Computator has quit (Changing host) 04:13:57 *** Computator (~Computato@unaffiliated/computator) has joined #portableapps 04:15:14 Computator: Are yo computerfreaker? :P 04:15:37 oh srry 04:15:38 im back 04:15:39 no i'm not, sorry :) 04:15:47 :P 04:15:55 ughh u know for when u download the app for portable apps program 04:16:05 thers not readme or anything? 04:16:26 so i thought the developers could atleast put a readme in the file after the installation or something 04:17:10 Joji: There's a help.html in every PortableApp. 04:17:23 wat!? man i suck... 04:17:31 and i didn't even look carefully 04:17:45 shame....... -_-" 04:18:00 And a readme.txt in AppNamePortable\Other\Source :) 04:18:24 not always on that last one 04:18:30 but there usually is 04:18:46 *** OliverK|Mepis (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 04:19:01 There is in every official portable app. 04:19:21 oh ok, i didn't see that in the spec 04:20:04 I'm pretty sure the spec doesn't mention it for some reason. 04:20:46 It doesn't talk about what has to be in the Other\Source folder. 04:21:00 yeah 04:21:13 i thought people just usually had one 04:21:23 i didn't know it is a requirement 04:21:44 Not something you should stress. 04:21:45 i have seen one or two without one 04:21:50 oh ok 04:22:13 readme.txt just talks about how to work the ini file. 04:22:21 yeah 04:22:28 In the fairly near future Other\Source may disappear from the PortableApps.com Format Specification altogether. 04:22:47 sounds good to me 04:23:05 i'm all for open source but it's a pain to put it in every time 04:23:10 ChrisMorgan: One of these days, I'm going to blow up PAL :P 04:23:16 This will be due to the PortableApps.com Launcher, of course. 04:23:22 As gluxon has detected. 04:23:30 gluxon: I really can't understand your animosity to it. 04:23:53 Why don't you try it? suggest features? find bugs? /fix/ bugs? That could be helpful. 04:24:23 ummm, i'm not getting it, how will PAL affect if you have the source or not? 04:24:44 it will be a package you can download elsewhere 04:24:48 Well eXpresso is safe from it, at least :P 04:24:53 *** Res2216firestar (Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 04:25:00 ahhh ok 04:25:00 the relevant configuration will be included because it has to be :) 04:25:05 Computator: when you have only one lot of source code for it all, it's much simpler to not need to update it each time and just to download it separately. 04:25:15 gluxon, muhahaha 04:25:18 Yeah 04:25:20 btw, i use expresso and really like it 04:25:25 gluxon: indeed, that's what you think ;-) 04:25:26 yeah i agree 04:25:42 Like the PortableApps.com Installer source code isn't included with things compiled with it 04:25:46 Computator: Sweet, thanks :) 04:25:57 that reminds me, I was going to look at tinyresmeter portable :P 04:25:59 OliverK|Mepis: have you got any good ideas for things we can do in the PortableApps.com Launcher? 04:26:09 btw, do you mean the source for all the apps together or each app individually? 04:26:10 huh, nope 04:26:16 not right now 04:26:38 Computator: with PAL, each application will have an INI file to configure it, but the actual NSIS source code won't need to be included. 04:27:02 The INI file clearly needs to be included to make it work, and the PAL binaries, but not the PAL source 04:27:14 ChrisMorgan: Think you could make the AppNamePortable.ini able to handle Relative paths? 04:27:26 i doubt it 04:27:30 ahhh the nsis code, i thought you meant the app code 04:27:39 maybe with some string detection . . . 04:27:40 Not that hard :P 04:27:47 gluxon: which? You mean the user config bit? 04:27:55 Yeah. 04:28:02 Sure. I'll be doing that some time soon. It's really only one line to do it anyway. 04:28:03 i use c for my launchers but nsis looks cool 04:28:16 A matter of adding in a line "${ParseLocations} $0" in the right place. 04:28:17 C == good :) 04:28:26 o relly? 04:28:29 really* 04:28:30 Yeah, I'm expecting to rewrite the launcher in C at some point. 04:28:33 didnt' know about that 04:28:34 OliverK|Mepis: really. 04:28:39 C++ = better than C 04:28:43 hehe 04:28:47 gluxon: no 04:28:52 C++ > C 04:28:52 NSIS == better then anything else 04:28:55 super simples :) 04:29:00 :/ 04:29:01 I gtg 04:29:04 thansk for all the help 04:29:06 :D 04:29:07 C++ is larger, slower and more error-prone than C. 04:29:08 biii 04:29:13 bye Joji 04:29:15 And NSIS is /written/ in C 04:29:15 bii 04:29:20 NSIS can't do everything :( 04:29:20 *** Joji has quit (Quit: Page closed) 04:29:28 ChrisMorgan, to each his own 04:29:37 NSIS is fairly good for what we do, but at times, there could be advantages in having it all as straight C. 04:29:39 i agree but c++ does have some good features 04:29:54 Particularly speed, small size and little memory usage. 04:29:54 i use c unless i need OO 04:29:55 I thought NSIS was in C++ >_< 04:30:03 delphi 04:30:06 Computator: why? Do we need classes/objects? 04:30:06 no wait 04:30:10 no 04:30:17 Not Delphi. Not an open source language or anything like that 04:30:23 gluxon: you could be right 04:30:34 :) 04:30:42 i was thinking the PAL is in delphi, not nSIS 04:30:55 Computator: don't even think about it 04:30:59 Delphi is evil :-) 04:31:11 :P 04:31:17 A language where a free, open-source compiler is available is a good thing. 04:31:19 Delphi is evil. 04:31:35 And C (or even C++) will produce smaller and probably faster executables than Delphi. 04:31:46 i don't need OO for portableapps, i was just saying if i had a program that did need OO then i use C++ (which is rare) 04:31:48 After 1.0 (or if I can squeeze it in, before) the parsing of locations will also be switching to using environment variables to handle everything: so then you'll be able to use arbitrary environment variables too. 04:32:09 and he asked what nsis was in and i said delphi 04:32:18 i dont know delphi 04:32:21 NSIS is written in C or C++, can't remember which. 04:32:36 but the PAL is in delphi is what i meant :P 04:32:40 ahh ok 04:32:50 I can make a better PAL than ChrisMorgan in 3 days :P 04:32:59 gluxon, doubt it 04:33:01 gluxon: you're on. Do it. 04:33:07 Which three days are you going to choose? 04:33:12 lol P 04:33:19 I chose, friday, mondaym and friday :) 04:33:36 oh, wait, I already did :p 04:33:36 Contiguous or an hour or few at a time (and thus using 36 working hours)? 04:33:52 Saturday, Saturday, and lastly, Saturday 04:34:25 36 working hours :P 04:34:34 Yeah, much more sensible. 04:34:51 On Saturday, I have the whole day :P 04:34:53 Good luck then. Hand in your code at the end of your time and we'll compare it :-) 04:35:08 And no stealing my code :-) 04:35:15 lol :P 04:35:15 *** Res2216firestar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:36:46 I would never take ChrisMorgan's Dirty code :P 04:37:19 That sounds remarkably to me like a challenge. 04:37:38 Or a fight to the death :P 04:37:40 Very well gluxon, I challenge you to a (coding) duel. Choose your weapon. 04:37:51 lol 04:37:56 I choose NSIS :P 04:38:01 I choose gVim and NSIS as my weapons. 04:38:24 And Wine (on Ubuntu) to make sure I don't leave anything out. 04:38:27 EclipseNSIS pwn all :P 04:38:36 One of these days I should try compiling NSIS for POSIX. 04:38:56 Hm... 04:39:24 I'm going to see if I can do it in AuttoHotKey :P 04:39:35 Naa... 04:40:14 ChrisMorgan: it's very simple to compile nsis on posix :) 04:40:23 ZachThibeau: I'm too lazy to try it though 04:40:45 * gluxon askes what POSIX is >_< 04:40:46 Should be just download the cross-compiler and scons and to work. 04:40:58 gluxon: read your NSIS manual, section "Compiling NSIS" 04:41:30 ZachThibeau: the thing is, makensis through Wine works just fine. 04:41:45 I'll do that when I'm in Colledge :P 04:42:48 gluxon: what, learn to spell? 04:43:26 lol :P 04:45:04 if you wanted a real long contest do it in assembly :D 04:45:31 ouch 04:45:34 win! 04:45:40 lol 04:45:55 do any of you know assembly? 04:46:02 Computator: I've already got my code though :-) 04:46:08 true 04:46:17 I've done a smidgeon of asm coding. 04:46:28 A lot of it would actually be very similar to NSIS. Stack work and the likes. 04:46:39 Working with registers. 04:46:53 Rather than using proper variables (though in NSIS you tend to do that too) 04:47:17 i'm still in high school so all my experience is doing my own thing 04:47:44 i tend to write things in assembly if it is a dos program, idk why 04:47:50 :-/ 04:48:05 Why anyone would /choose/ to work in asm is something I don't understand. 04:48:38 me either, and i'm not joking...well actually it is faster, but otherwise idk 04:48:44 :P 04:48:45 * ZachThibeau loves C/C++ :D 04:48:55 * Computator agrees 04:49:52 I mostly program with c++ but my latest project is coded in C using the gtk library (my c++ projects with WxWidgets) 04:49:58 * ChrisMorgan hasn't done much C/++ work at all 04:50:23 well, igtg so ttyall later 04:50:29 later 04:50:44 *** Computator has quit (Quit: bye) 04:55:40 * sar3th is evil, he starts to fall in love with java's syntax :( 04:55:47 i still think java is crap though 04:56:16 :0 04:56:19 java is the devil 04:56:22 I hate jave 04:56:28 with a passion that refuses to die 04:56:34 yeah, same here 04:56:42 bad JVM 04:56:48 slow apps 04:56:50 :( 04:57:02 useless stuff 04:57:20 real binaries FTW 04:57:27 bytecode FTL 04:57:28 muhahaha 04:57:33 or perl ftw 04:57:35 hehe 04:57:50 PERL!? 04:57:54 and ChrisMorgan, you're right, NSIS is kinda assembler, well, a macro-version of it ^^ 04:58:02 Perl is evil. Even more evil than Assembly code. 04:58:11 nah 04:58:16 i thought so too 04:58:21 then i read some perl scripts 04:58:34 easy as ...well, very easy 05:00:10 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:00:23 sar3th: oh yeah? What do you say to http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-perl-737.html then? 05:00:34 Not at all readable! 05:00:59 ChrisMorgan, it is worse then C++ 05:01:04 and that is part of the charm 05:01:12 plus its regex power is 05:01:22 staggering 05:01:37 ChrisMorgan: that's a obfuscated script, i can do something alike in NSIS, too 05:01:55 sar3th: not as badly/neatly obfuscated though ;-) 05:02:21 The one thing I wish NSIS had is a decent regular expression engine. 05:02:41 BTW, did you know that "regular expression" was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in December? 05:02:53 hehe 05:03:23 regex power for the win!! 05:03:38 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 05:04:21 http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-lolcode-1544.html 05:04:22 sweet 05:04:46 i still want to write a lolcode interpretetor for nsis 05:04:46 * OliverK|Mepis needs more time in his day 05:06:44 * sar3th actually wants to write a true lolcode compiler, as there is none yet 05:08:08 one which produces binaries 05:08:23 though producing java bytecode would be funny as well XD 05:08:27 You're all crazy. 05:08:34 Uh oh, looks like I understated it. 05:08:34 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:12:03 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 05:13:44 Think at some point I'll turn [FileDriveLetterUpdate] with (Back|Forward)slashN=%DATADIRECTORY%\etc. into [FileReplaceN] sections with values like File=, Search=%LastDrive%\, Replace=%CurrentDrive%\ 05:14:44 sounds like a good change 05:15:30 And then you'll be able to change other things too. 05:15:34 night all 05:15:39 AND, most of all, you'll be able to handle things like with Mozilla apps: 05:15:55 night OliverK|Mepis 05:15:56 Search=file:///%LastDrive%/ 05:15:56 Replace=file:///%CurrentDrive%/ 05:16:04 *** OliverK|Mepis has quit (Quit: Leaving) 05:16:39 I imagine most environment variables will be prefixed with PAL. Maybe file:///%PAL:LastDrive%/ 05:17:10 I had been going to do things like PortableApps.comLauncherLastDrive but that's just too long and messy... and typo-prone. 05:17:44 If we can avoid people needing to go on about PortbaleApps.comLauncher, so much the better. 05:17:58 Nice storm we're having here just now :-) 05:18:07 Lots of rain, lots of lightning. 05:18:49 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Cheez Itz!) 05:19:13 Ooh, I was processing FileDriveLetterUpdate on secondary launches too. What a bad idea. 05:23:10 * ChrisMorgan wonders if the power will go off at all. Lots of lightning, some coming fairly close 05:23:30 And very loud shake-causing lightning too :-) 05:26:51 I think I'll need to expand (Last|Current)Drive to (Last|Current)(App|Data)?Drive for all possible Live mode replacements. 05:28:13 *** Guest22752 (~75cc5004@gateway/web/freenode/x-sxozcfthjfnjmzwb) has joined #portableapps 05:28:50 Guest22752: can we help you with anything? 05:34:38 oh sure, thanks!i just heard about portableapps, from #theora as i was asking about setting up a cd with theora video contents, along with some software , to make it easier for the m$ windows user's side.. 05:35:45 i was reading http://portableapps.com/support/vlc_portable#cd and couldn't figure out whether i can make it without working on a windows copy myself(As i don't have any with me) 05:36:38 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 05:38:14 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 05:38:15 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator 05:38:30 :) nice bot:) 05:38:53 ChrisMorgan: hai :) 05:38:58 Hello 05:39:23 Sorry, our router died temporarily from a power blip as we're in the middle of a thunderstorm :-) 05:39:48 uh!:) here it goes off for a breeze:) 05:40:01 Guest22752: you'll need to extract it somehow. 05:40:16 i see.. 05:40:21 That probably means either Wine or Windows. 05:40:57 ookay.. /me goes for having some wine :) 05:41:05 7z can extract our PAFs i think 05:41:19 sar3th: getting the directory structure right is pretty bad though 05:41:19 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 05:41:24 Hence I don't recommend it at all 05:41:45 Then you should run it at least once, and when you're happy it's set up how you want it, copy Other\Source\VLCPortable.ini next to VLCPortable.exe and change the RunLocally value to true. 05:41:49 *** Guest22752 is now known as shyam 05:42:26 I think that VLC needs the INI step to do it silently (otherwise it'll ask about whether it should copy it locally or quit). 05:42:45 hmmm.. any change if i include firefox 3.6 instead? 05:43:08 shyam: if you're distributing Firefox, due to trademark restrictions you can't include any data. 05:43:35 well, i was thinking of icecat though!:) 05:43:43 If you liked, you could include an unbranded version of Firefox - like Zach's IceCat Portable. 05:43:50 Yep. Quite so. 05:43:52 oh then we don't have Portable app .. ok.. 05:44:09 (It's not an official application though) 05:44:58 oh great icecat really is there! 05:45:05 sorry for that!:) 05:46:00 btw.. doesn't firefox also require this install atleast once requirement ? 05:46:28 uh i should compete in some grammar competition 05:46:39 Yes, all applications should be run at least once before running from CD to initialise settings. 05:46:52 And so you can't really do Firefox for distribution at all. 05:47:13 :( 05:47:59 But IceCat you can. 05:48:20 * shyam is already annoyed by the mozilla plugin site, pushing you to getfirefox.com even if you use it from icecat! 05:54:03 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 05:55:07 Hey!? TortoiseHg now has Nautilus integration..? 06:04:33 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Opera Web Browser 10.50 alpha preview! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://www.opera.com/) 06:10:32 okay so i have IceCatPortable directory with the portable icecat installed in it.. wine ~/path/to/install-dir/IceCatPortable.exe reported so many missing dll files.. 06:11:19 i just installed wine to test icecat.. may be i am missing some supporting libraries.. 06:11:23 * shyam pasting the output. 06:13:54 Does it work though? 06:14:04 http://pastebin.com/m189e2462 06:14:08 no.. 06:14:50 btw iirc, there was something screwed up with icecat too.. 06:15:12 * shyam also downloading vlc portable 06:15:15 Oh, and you should run it in the directory (not drive) where it's going to end up - so if you want to burn it to a CD as E:\IceCatPortable, make it so that in Wine it will be in X:\IceCatPortable rather than Z:\home\shyam\path\to\install-dir 06:15:49 Argh! ZachThibeau: you should look at this. 06:16:11 fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.VC90.CRT" (9.0.21022.8) 06:16:43 MSVCR90. A side-by-side assembly. ZachThibeau: have you got the manifest file set up properly? 06:17:18 Or more importantly, err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR90.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\shyam\\hindi-seminar\\iso\\IceCatPortable\\App\\IceCat\\nspr4.dll") not found 06:18:24 Possibly not Zach's fault though. It goes listing the whole tree of things there and complaining about all of them... 06:18:29 shyam: wine --version? 06:18:42 there was something messy with 3.6 release too http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnuzilla/2010-02/threads.html 06:18:58 wine-1.1.28 06:19:19 Hmm, not too bad. I myself have 1.1.37 - the dev build 06:19:37 So it's probably a problem with the IceCat build 06:19:46 sure.. it can be.. 06:19:59 It may be common for Windows to have MSVCR90 already installed, but it won't be for Wine users :-) 06:20:12 * ChrisMorgan is too lazy to download and test it himself though 06:20:30 no problem i'll try vlc too.. 06:20:43 VLC should work in Wine. 06:20:58 *** dabossbv (~dabossbv@p4FDC7677.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 06:21:26 It having stopped raining for a while, I should go and feed those dogs before tea time. Bye for now, hopefully others can help you if you need any help. 06:23:01 sure, happy tea time!:) and thanks for the help:) 06:28:12 ops i didn't get what you said about setting up the path.. i only have two partitions listed on "My Computer" on wine's "Browse for folder" which is C: and Z: where z: is debian's root... should it display the cdrom too as a partition? or should i refer it to /media/cdrom0/ ? :) 06:28:36 okay the last one seems dumb though:) 06:29:54 or should i go for C:\VLCPortable? 06:31:21 *** spectrum1 (~spectrum1@2001:0:53aa:64c:42c:46e6:3c8e:46f7) has joined #portableapps 06:39:51 * shyam just installed VLC in C:\VLCPortable and it worked in wine, 06:40:07 though its not displaying any text, and no sound is played.. anyway it worked, hope it works on a windows machine.. so should i just copy that VLCPortable directory to cd and burn it? 06:52:09 It's probably fine. 06:52:56 Next time you want a new drive letter, in your Applications menu or whatever Debian has there should be Wine -> Configure Wine 06:56:12 great! it shows the video when playing under wine.. and takes playlists too.. hmm so i have the following autorun.inf which i got from some forum... i can't see a VLCPortable.com file there, shouldn't i rename s/com/exe/ ? 06:56:25 [Autorun]nOpen=VLCPortable\VLCPortable.exe Playlist.m3unAction=VLCPortable\VLCPortable.comnIcon=VLCPortable\VLCPortable.exenLabel=TV-Recordings 06:57:13 *** spectrum1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 06:58:13 If it's just VLC you want to run, then that should be OK (Action is the display text) 06:58:38 ohh ok.. 06:58:42 So you might want to have Action=Play audio files 06:59:10 And put in your own icon - e.g. a Hindi character or something like that, you can use IcoFX to make it if you haven't got one 06:59:21 *** excid3|asus1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:01:36 If you want more than one "action" to appear in the context menu when people right click on the drive icon, you can do that too. Shell\1=Name, Shell\1\Command=cutable.exe, etc. 07:03:31 * shyam is afraid to have unicode chars on cd:) 07:04:02 well haven't tried it.. thats all.. and saw some warning.. 07:06:21 For the icon, it's an ico file you produce, a bitmap: not Unicode data 07:07:14 Now it's tea time. Namaste! 07:07:24 namaste.. :) 07:07:30 * shyam goes for burning the cd:) 07:15:34 *** shyam has quit (Quit: Page closed) 07:16:48 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@p54B8ED9B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 07:32:03 *** dzjepp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07:55:36 *** markomlm has quit (*.net *.split) 07:56:25 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@p54B8ED9B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 08:24:38 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 08:24:38 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 08:30:48 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 08:32:26 *** markomlm_ (~chatzilla@p54B8E061.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 08:33:30 *** markomlm has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:33:33 *** markomlm_ is now known as markomlm 09:20:00 *** rmccue has quit (Quit: The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two") 09:38:22 Ah. I'm finally ready to compile it again. I bet something will not work. 09:39:02 *phew* I would have been worried if it had compiled first time. 09:39:59 I was missing a line !define SegmentFile "!insertmacro SegmentFile". Far too minor. Something else is now going to go wrong. 10:05:42 *** markomlm has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]) 10:06:29 :O 10:06:32 :-O 10:06:39 =-O 10:07:20 It compiles! 10:07:38 AND... (hastily fixes one line) with no warnings! 10:11:12 So there, now the PortableApps.com Launcher (well, my repository anyway) works with segments; each segment has a number of hooks it can operate on. (.on)?Init|Unload|(Pre(Exec)?|Post)(Primary|Secondary)? 10:24:01 Really quite remarkable that it took so few, minor, fixes... 10:24:34 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:25:04 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 10:26:43 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 10:56:00 I'd like it if someone would like to test my release-memory-while-waiting EmptyWorkingSet implementation I just committed in PAL. 10:56:23 I think it should be using under 1MB of memory (I'm hoping 100-200KB) instead of the usual 5-10MB 11:01:39 Well, that's all for today, folks. And tomorrow I really must (ha ha, as if I'll manage it :P) work on my own project... I've been letting the PortableApps.com Launcher take over too much :'( :-( :-) O:-) 11:06:24 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11:11:50 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 11:13:16 *** pa_7741 (~79d1aa3b@gateway/web/freenode/x-rckmjvqrwpurvzih) has joined #portableapps 11:13:19 hi 11:13:25 I get the following error; 11:13:26 Processed 1 file, writing output: Adding plug-ins initializing function... Done! Error: resolving install function "Nsis2Io" in function "mui.FinishPre_151.5.9" Note: uninstall functions must begin with "un.", and install functions must not Error - aborting creation process 11:13:57 How do I fix it, I can't find either "Nsis2Io" nor "mui.FinishPre_151.5.9" in any of the files... 11:19:42 huh... sounds like a bad install 11:20:32 Did you try a reinstall? 11:21:11 *** pa_9332 (~5960f6fc@gateway/web/freenode/x-rmkcpkfhereqiccy) has joined #portableapps 11:21:49 *** pa_9332 has parted #portableapps (None) 11:32:16 *** sar3th|away has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11:33:09 *** SrgSiler|Sleep has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 11:33:39 *** SergentSiler (~Kyle@support.team.at.shellium.org) has joined #portableapps 11:33:42 SergentSiler is a PortableApps.com Menu Themer, his theme website is http://silerhost.site50.net 11:34:07 *** SergentSiler is now known as Guest45568 11:34:49 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 11:35:51 *** Guest45568 has quit (Excess Flood) 11:37:08 *** sar3th (sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 11:37:10 sar3th is currently busy with KDE for Windows (Portable) 11:37:26 *** SergentSiler_ (sergentsil@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 11:38:00 *** sar3th has quit (Client Quit) 11:38:11 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... 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Ideas? 15:54:29 *** pa_0048 has quit (Client Quit) 16:03:03 *** pa_5529 (~4da58e6a@gateway/web/freenode/x-vejsbrcvwkjycsxv) has joined #portableapps 16:03:11 hello 16:03:39 does somebody know how to delet a app?? 16:04:27 *** pa_5529 has quit (Client Quit) 16:06:38 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16:36:19 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@66-189-153-43.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 16:37:53 *** kai_62656 has quit (Changing host) 16:37:53 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps 16:40:42 *** Res2216firestar (Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 16:45:45 *** spectrum1 (~martin@2001:0:53aa:64c:103d:4c45:b213:3fb5) has joined #portableapps 16:53:24 *** Res2216firestar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 17:39:00 *** Darwin4Ever (~Darwin4Ev@082-146-104-099.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps 17:58:26 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 18:31:40 *** rouilj2 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 18:35:12 *** rouilj has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18:51:49 *** dzjepp (~menace2s@99.31.122.16) has joined #portableapps 18:58:48 *** Bensawsome has quit (Quit: Leaving) 18:59:16 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 18:59:19 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.ircstats.info 19:21:20 *** pa_3178 (~4ab17752@gateway/web/freenode/x-hvyrupvtsiqqmats) has joined #portableapps 19:21:40 Hey, folks 19:22:02 .. hmm... 19:22:08 ... connected, here? 19:22:11 hi 19:22:14 .. or, rather, anyone alive? 19:22:18 .. Ahh, there we go... 19:22:51 I've got a bogus app listing in my app menu... have tried icon refresh... still there. 19:23:03 people usually take longer to answer btw ;) 19:23:12 what do you mean "bogus app" 19:23:14 Anyone tell me how to clean it out? 19:23:40 Notepad application... the menu item is wrong... not there. 19:24:17 *** pa_8607 (~9b2a65e6@gateway/web/freenode/x-liywlabyuqwxkrwy) has joined #portableapps 19:24:32 well, look in the \PortableApps directory and see if it is there 19:24:42 .. looked... not there.. 19:24:58 one sec pa_ 19:25:03 one sec pa_3178 19:25:08 hmmm... 19:25:19 you should be able to hide it 19:25:25 also whats the name of that item? 19:26:17 *** pa_8607 has quit (Client Quit) 19:26:21 It's looking for pspad 19:26:23 *** pa_7062 (~9b2a65e6@gateway/web/freenode/x-monqiuuvwcqvqmak) has joined #portableapps 19:26:36 hmmm 19:26:44 well either way you can hide it 19:26:46 .. dropped pspad portable into my apps. 19:26:51 here ya go http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#hidingicons 19:27:22 There's not a utility or switch option, somehow, to remove a menu item? 19:27:30 ri9ght there 19:28:45 Right-click to access "hide icon" gives me "rename menu item". 19:29:08 ohhh, you have a old version of the PAL 19:29:09 oh shoot 19:29:11 lol 19:29:19 rename it to - 19:29:19 get v1.6 from the site 19:29:25 ir do that :) 19:29:26 opr do what Computator said 19:29:27 lol 19:29:27 yeah... think I'll move up... 19:29:48 back things up, that I need.... and go fresh... thanks. 19:29:58 yw 19:30:12 pa_3178 you dont have to delete everything 19:30:17 just download v1.6 19:30:22 then install it over the current one 19:31:13 I'm going to install Roho Mini and install into that encrypted container... was just curious about this problem. 19:33:44 .. again, thanks. 19:36:53 BTW, just tried the rename to "-" suggested by Computator, above.... that fixed it.... it's gone. 19:37:12 thnks 19:38:26 *** pa_3178 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 19:43:23 *** pa_3909 (~9b2a65e6@gateway/web/freenode/x-fzivzodzfolitffa) has joined #portableapps 19:43:35 *** pa_5810 (~9b2a65e6@gateway/web/freenode/x-abkrfcpyfvmshalk) has joined #portableapps 19:44:17 *** pa_5810 has quit (Client Quit) 19:44:19 *** pa_3909 has quit (Client Quit) 19:44:20 *** pa_7062 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 19:44:38 ...? 19:44:52 *** Bensawsome has quit (Quit: Leaving) 19:52:29 *** SteveLamerton (~kvirc@host-137-205-68-076.res.warwick.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 19:52:34 hello SteveLamerton 19:52:57 Hi Gizmokid2005, ZachThibeau, all 19:53:03 howdy SteveLamerton 19:53:41 Finally had some time to spend on Toucan :D 19:54:09 nice 19:54:23 I'm working on some small stuff on PChat 19:54:55 Ben is learning C and wanted in on the project so hopefully he can contribute some stuff to help the development :) 20:01:20 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 20:01:28 hello JohnTHaller 20:02:00 hi 20:02:02 how goes it? 20:02:06 hi JohnTHaller 20:02:18 I had to pull a drive out of an ANCIENT Windows 3.1 box today 20:02:22 so...interesting to say the least 20:02:24 yikes 20:02:46 I remember pulling a 25 meg hard drive before from a pretty old computer 20:03:05 i still have the 3.1 cd 20:03:34 yeah, had a guy bring me his pc because it stopped booting (Mobo failed) so he needed me to install quickbooks V3 for him...which the ONLY place to get the License key (Customer number) was this old Win3.1 box...so I had to boot into it...and he wanted the old quickboobks files off it too, since the Floppy didn't work, no USB ports, I had to pull the drive out to get the data files 20:03:37 it was quite interesting... 20:04:06 I remember those days of 3.1 20:04:07 :) 20:04:13 ah memories 20:04:46 me too :) 20:05:04 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@pD9557F99.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 20:05:18 hop 20:05:30 hi markomlm 20:05:36 thanks for popping in. or hoppinh in 20:05:49 :-) 20:05:55 yeah, it was something else 20:05:58 hello markomlm :) 20:06:14 hello @all 20:06:32 markomlm: Do you have a guess on OO.o 3.2? You said you had the new oobuild env. Do you have the time to actually do the build? 20:06:45 I ask because I'm debating holding 1.6.1 of platform/suite for it. 20:07:00 (since the platform gets a bump, I gotta bump the suite anyway) 20:07:20 Otherwise, I'll have to bump it again for OO.o 3.2 and do a 1.6.1.1 Suite 20:08:53 Well JohnTHaller, so far PChat seems pretty stable, no serious issues reported so far, What do you suggest next? 20:09:08 Is it a pre-release or a dev test atm? 20:09:13 Do we have an icon for it? 20:09:14 dev test atm 20:09:21 and yes I have an Icon for it 20:09:33 Let's go PR then. LInk me to the icon and I'll do a splash for it in a bit 20:09:51 sure thing then 20:10:32 JohnTHaller: http://pchat-irc.com/PChat.png 20:10:43 404 20:10:45 oops error 404 20:11:08 seems wordpress doesn't like me today 20:12:20 JohnTHaller: http://i45.tinypic.com/15eefj9.png 20:13:27 Cool. Want the word PChat in any specific colors? Play it off the colors in the logo? 20:14:00 I was packed with qa work for the German release of OpenOffice.org Portable. I can send You the new environment if You'll be able to do the job quicket than me ;-) 20:14:01 ahh, hmmm 20:14:28 markomlm: when do you think you'd have it done if you're doing it? 20:14:44 yeah maybe play a little off of the colors of the logo 20:15:48 I believe we do not want to tell any date ;-) ? 20:18:36 JohnTHaller:with a little bit luck untill next friday (perhaps wednesday) 20:19:08 *** qwertymodo (~monitor@207-118-74-33.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined #portableapps 20:19:24 Ah ok 20:19:37 COuld you send me the build env then. I'll probably do it this weekend, then. 20:19:50 Great! 20:19:57 howdy qwertymodo 20:20:17 any major changes from the old build env? I had tweaked it to fit my setup and use relative paths to a few things. 20:20:20 hey ZachThibeau 20:20:44 ZachThibeau: Ok, I'll do a splash later and post it to the pchat testing topic doing a play on the colors. 20:21:14 sure thing 20:22:40 markomlm: Please send me the current build env via email along with info on what's changed. I'll work on it as I have time. I need to take a screen break for now though. Still have a bit of a 24hour migraine. 20:24:29 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 20:24:42 *** JohnTHaller is now known as JohnTHaller|away 20:25:01 OK. 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Are they the sorts of things you could just send to me for me to integrate? 23:50:40 *** _kai_62656_ (~kvirc@66-189-153-43.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 23:53:02 *** |kai_62656| has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23:54:31 *** pa_9039 (~62cee8b8@gateway/web/freenode/x-lypxzpqkwcmhraky) has joined #portableapps 23:54:57 hello? 23:55:17 *** pa_9039 has parted #portableapps (None) 23:57:55 *** Computator_ is now known as Computator