00:00:13 *** Res2216firestar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 00:00:31 See http://code.google.com/p/kidsafe/source - there's no content yet 00:01:42 *** pa_5415 (~4a80e0c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-fukekgavojmrqwdx) has joined #portableapps 00:01:46 Help! 00:01:53 rcmaehl: wrong url this is the right one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion_(software) 00:01:54 Hello, pa_5415! What can we help with? 00:02:11 My antivirus program says your program is a virus 00:02:49 pa_5415: it's a false positive, or some other infection. What you downloaded is not a virus. 00:03:17 If you want more confirmation, you can upload what you downloaded to http://virustotal.com/ and see how lots of anti-virus software rates it. 00:03:21 Well Antivirus XP 2009 says it is 00:03:33 Never heard of that one... must be a small one. 00:04:02 And small ones tend to be much worse - either not marking viruses as viruses or more commonly calling things which aren't viruses, viruses. 00:04:04 I got the program when an online scanner said I ewas infected 00:04:44 The program is probably a Rogue AV 00:04:56 Really? 00:05:03 yes that is a virus 00:05:11 shit 00:05:15 it pretends to be a antivirus program 00:05:19 how do I remove it 00:05:28 pa_5415: hold on 00:05:31 k 00:05:36 how long ago did you install it? 00:05:46 about a month or two 00:06:01 ohhh, crud 00:06:12 I'm guessing 00:06:21 than it will probably take a lot of work, sorry :( 00:06:27 pa_5415: web applications should never be able to detect that your computer has a virus. If it says it is, it's far more likely that /it/ is. 00:06:38 right rcmaehl how did you know 00:06:49 that one is supposed to be really hard to remove 00:06:56 I watch the statistics for viruses 00:07:04 oh and pa_5415 http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/ <- here 00:07:10 thx 00:07:21 >< 00:07:24 False anti-virus software is the current most popular malware scheme in operation. 00:07:26 i got that one once a year ago 00:07:29 Won't let me run it 00:07:33 so might have been awhile 00:07:58 pa_5415: try safe mode 00:08:02 ? 00:08:33 restart your computer and press f8 00:08:38 then choose safe mode 00:08:47 and try running the program 00:09:06 not the rogue av but the downloaded progam I linked to 00:09:07 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 00:09:15 k 00:09:17 thx 00:09:41 *** pa_5415 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 00:10:46 people to know a the difference between rogue avs and a real av 00:10:58 he left already 00:11:05 oops 00:11:23 looking at the wrong thing, sorry 00:12:10 i got that one as a trojan i didn't download it directly or click on some link 00:16:16 *** marlop has quit (Quit: marlop) 00:19:30 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@66-189-153-43.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 00:20:00 *** kai_62656 has quit (Changing host) 00:20:00 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps 00:43:41 Can I get a favor from someone 00:50:38 *** Bensawsome has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 00:51:29 rcmaehl: not if you don't ask what it is 00:51:54 Can someone write a review for kid safe 00:53:39 What for? 00:53:58 We NEED reviews 00:54:35 to show that people like the product and so we know what we need to improve on and such 01:00:04 I reviewed it somewhat in Wine... 01:01:16 Linky to your review 01:01:28 *** kaeos has quit (Quit: kaeos) 01:06:22 I gave it in here in dribs and drabs really 01:06:35 It wasn't a proper review, just notes as I went along, suggestions for improvement, etc. 01:06:47 I need a written/typed review please. 01:13:58 Hey, what does this mean: 01:13:58 Extended process analysis: 2944 G:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\PortableAppsPlatform.exe [ES]:Program code includes networking-related functionality [ES]:EXE runtime packer ? 01:18:19 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:19:42 rcmaehl: what's giving you that message? 01:20:37 AVZ, russian antivirus program 01:23:22 Networking-related functionality: update checker (just loads one page). EXE runtime packer: UPX compression. 01:23:43 Very High Heuristics 01:24:13 and Calls every autorun.inf suspicous 01:25:24 http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/AVZ-Antiviral-Toolkit.shtml 01:25:56 Must be evil. 01:26:18 ... 01:26:20 nope 01:26:31 made by kaspery 01:26:51 I can't spell it right 01:27:12 oh, kaspersky 01:32:08 Isn't it just so marvellously illogical that one of the times you want LogicLib most you can't use it... in a LogicLib operator (e.g. with ${If} ${ProcessExists}, ProcessExists can't use LogicLib internally) :D 01:39:29 So... let's see if I've got my IntCmp, StrCmp etc. stuff right. 01:39:47 .... 01:40:46 Uh oh. 01:41:03 What? 01:41:16 Hmm... what have I got wrong... 01:41:31 Must have something slightly inaccurate with my CallArtificialFunction. 01:41:39 :-/ Silly me. 01:46:10 Grr. Found another problem with it. Just like you can't use LogicLib in a LogicLib operator... you can't use anything which uses CallArtificialFunction inside a CallArtificialFunction. 01:47:45 *Whew* in this case there's a CallArtificialFunction2 thing for just such a situation. 01:49:56 someone is stealing your project 01:49:57 https://code.google.com/p/portableappz/ 01:53:42 Hmm... stupid chap. I'll report it to Google and see if they do anything about it (GPL violation, silly content especially seeing the other, non-eligible project created by the user) 01:54:51 I know 01:55:18 I was google searching portableapps when I stumbled upon that page 01:57:34 *** |kai_62656| (~kvirc@71.94.227.24) has joined #portableapps 01:58:26 Trademark violation should also be valid - but I can't do anything about that. And Google doesn't really make it easy to report projects for illegal content etc. except in public. 01:58:53 At least thanks to CallArtificialFunction2 I've got this working. 01:59:15 *** kai_62656 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01:59:22 Sue the guy and make some money! 01:59:58 rcmaehl: what is there to sue for? 02:00:58 GPL violation would be quite shaky in such a situation, and trademark usage restrictions have not been made publicly available other than small snippets which have been posted by John from time to time which would permit this. 02:01:22 *** |kai_62656| has quit (Client Quit) 02:08:54 IcoFX, however... 02:12:44 https://code.google.com/p/portableappps/ ,- lier! 02:16:33 Some weird results googling "PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_1.6.exe" 02:16:42 without the quotes 02:17:02 H'm. 02:21:05 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 02:21:06 Ahh.... the beauty of code like ${If} ${ProcessExists} $0 02:21:29 We'll ignore the fact that in most languages it'd be more like if(process_exists(foo)) :P 02:21:32 Hey OliverK 02:21:36 heya 02:27:00 you guys need to include a file within your install to keep people from copying it 02:28:13 like a word file with a random extenstion (eg. .scp) that is proof the the files are from your program 02:30:01 rcmaehl: why though? 02:30:05 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:35:42 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Cheez Itz!) 02:36:34 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:36:43 OK, I think I'm ready to release the PortableApps.com Launcher 1.0 Alpha 3. 02:40:25 ? 02:41:44 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 02:41:45 One real advantage of Mercurial or Bazaar over SVN: you don't get ".svn" directories all through the tree, just at the root. Thus you don't need to do an export before compiling the installer, you can do it straight from the working copy. 02:41:52 rcmaehl: "?"? 02:43:50 ChrisMorgan: what do you mean 02:44:21 the launcher 1.3 02:45:30 It's 1.0 Alpha 3 02:45:58 yeah but i thought it was 2.0 beta 4 02:46:35 i have 1.6 right now...so I was wondering too 02:46:48 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Cheez Itz!) 02:54:07 What does the portableapps launcher do exactly 03:00:36 rcmaehl: read the forum topic 03:07:18 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:14:58 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:15:05 OMFG, thank you, nirsoft, thank yo, thank you, thank you 03:16:16 *** gluxon has quit (Client Quit) 03:16:44 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-76-23-212-66.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:19:33 *** gluxon has quit (Client Quit) 03:20:40 *** rcmaehl has parted #portableapps (None) 03:22:37 *** rcmaehl (~4a80e0c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-kxwvodhictmpygav) has joined #portableapps 03:22:45 TEST POST PLEASE REPLY 03:27:10 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 03:27:43 rcmaehl: ... why? 03:28:03 rcmaehl: if you're just trying to see if you can get through, use /ping username 03:28:13 Or even /ping 03:28:20 I thought I was diconnected but I wanted to make sure if I was or not] 03:28:54 Well, you can do it with /ping... "/ping rcmaehl" will ping yourself, via the server. 03:28:57 Had to hack my uncles wifi router and change the settings 03:29:11 oh and pinging myself does not work 03:30:42 Blame the client you're using then. 03:30:56 qirc, i think 03:31:02 webchat.freenode.net 03:31:05 Any decent client works with it. qirc doesn't appear to. 03:31:15 It's a lousy client in so many ways... so different from Mibbit. 03:31:52 RELEASE: PortableApps.com Launcher 1.0 Alpha 3: http://portableapps.com/node/22364 03:32:28 rcmaehl: or pull up command prompt and try pinging somethign with ping 03:32:36 win+r cmd enter ping google.com 03:33:28 OliverK: I think it was his IRC connection he was wanting to test 03:33:38 And patriotic people ping portableapps.com ;-) 03:33:59 heh 03:34:04 ping portableapps.com 03:34:06 Time to try compiling PAL with NSISu 03:34:18 ping irc.freenode.net 03:34:20 bah 03:34:42 Hmm... I'll need UAC.dll for NSISu and need to disable services/drivers. 03:37:13 ChrisMorgan: I'll get you it 03:37:22 Nah, too much like hard work turning all the files into utf16le. 03:37:26 rcmaehl: ? 03:37:42 ChrisMorgan: I have like 800 system files in my collection 03:37:45 Get me what? UAC.dll for NSISu? I've got it 03:37:54 UAC.dll is an NSIS plug-in 03:37:55 oh 03:39:57 I'm not going to do it now anyway... It'd mean maintaining two branches, even though the only difference is the character encoding (UTF-16LE vs. ASCII) 03:54:17 EmptyWorkingSet doesn't work in Wine. What a surprise. 03:54:44 Before the advent of EmptyWorkingSet ProcessExplorerPortable used 3.8MB of RAM... and afterwards, ditto. 03:54:54 Most electronics don't work in wine, they usually short-out 03:55:11 Whereas on Windows I would expect it to use 5-10MB before and something like 100KB after 03:56:13 rcmaehl: for that smart comment, could you please take a look at the memory usage in Process Explorer Portable's ProcessExplorerPortable.exe? First see how much it's using, then replace ProcessExplorerPortable.exe with PortableApps.comLauncher.exe from PortableApps.com Launcher 1.0 Alpha 3 and compare their memory usages. 03:56:46 ? 03:56:57 the sysinternal's process explorere? 03:57:04 Yep 03:57:04 http://portableapps.com/node/22549 03:57:33 If you'd like to help by providing statistics I'd like it too :-) 03:57:38 I've already got a not registry writing version of it 03:57:47 Oh? How? 03:58:22 portablefreeware.com and a program that allows you to select a program and take it's registry files with you 04:00:02 JauntePE? 04:00:28 yeah 04:02:00 Oh and the ProcessExplorer uses 2,000-4,000k mem (about 1/2 taskmgr's) 04:02:18 * rcmaehl thanks minimem for that 04:03:37 rcmaehl: I'm not interested in Process Explorer, I'm interested in the PortableApps.com Launcher's memory usage - it's used in Bruce's Process Explorer Portable 04:03:53 ok hold on 04:03:57 I'll get it 04:04:01 linky 04:04:44 http://portableapps.com/node/22549 for PEP, then http://portableapps.com/node/22364 for PAL 04:08:53 I get an error trying to run it 04:09:35 App\appname\appname.exe counld not be found 04:11:28 Run PEP, tell me how much memory ProcessExplorerPortable.exe uses, then copy PortableApps.comLauncher.exe in from PAL and do the same 04:14:57 20,220k+ procexp.exe and 6.168+ processexplorerportable.exe 04:15:11 getting the rest 04:17:33 17356k+ procexp.exe and 812K+ portableapps.comlauncher.exe 04:18:31 Good, 812KB vs. 6,168KB. That, I think, is success. 04:18:37 Yeah 04:18:38 but 04:18:46 But? 04:19:06 procexp.exe I lowered to 2,000K + with minimem 04:19:26 I'm not trying to reduce procexp.exe's memory usage: just the launcher. 04:19:33 well it worked 04:19:44 And I'm glad of that :-) 04:20:05 I was pretty sure the EmptyWorkingSet should work; I had all the syntax right as far as I could tell. 04:22:22 ChrisMorgan: now all you have to do is decrease the PAP's memory usage 04:23:19 rcmaehl: I'm not going to try that. To do it properly it would be fairly complex. 04:23:48 k 04:23:57 ChrisMorgan: you need a windows vm 04:25:20 OliverK: I just want to get round to cleaning my Windows partition and resizing things before I install a VM. 04:26:08 in #Portableapps-dev :) so this is 'logical' 04:29:46 OliverK: Don't, a non-trekie quoting Spock will get you killed 04:29:54 by spam 04:30:05 rcmaehl: first of all, i'm not a non trekie 04:30:11 though I'm not a trekie hard core 04:30:15 second of all 04:30:19 i was quiting spck 04:30:21 spock* 04:30:34 _\\// 04:30:37 but I'm about to try a 'colorful metaphor' :p 04:30:53 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 04:39:33 * rcmaehl has a big idea for a feature for the PAP 04:39:50 rcmaehl: what? 04:39:59 A don't forget your usb pop-up at shutdown/log-off/idle 04:40:14 Not idle. 04:40:38 If they're still there they'll find it annoying, if they're gone it won't be much use (except to the next person?) 04:40:58 k 04:41:18 However a logoof/shutdown "The PortableApps.com Platform is still running! Do you want to eject your disk?" message could be good 04:41:31 yeah 04:41:48 right now I'm using flashwatcher autorunning with the pap 04:42:26 http://www.fossoft.com/software/fwatch/index.html 04:43:01 *** Computator has quit (Quit: goodnight) 04:43:14 also 04:44:07 you guys should make an option,that a user can turn on, for when you close the PAP it closes any and all programs running from the drive 04:45:41 and make it so when you uninstall an app via the PAP it delete's any of the uninstalled apps entries in the portableappsmenu.ini file 04:49:39 rcmaehl: doesn't the "Eject" button do some of that? 04:49:39 I thought it did 04:49:39 Humph. Ignoring a spelling mistake, I think they haven't considered it enough; concerning having left a USB drive in: "It may post a potential confidential file exposure especially when you are using public computers." 04:49:40 Personally I would be fairly unlikely to notice it unless I was going to put mine in - whereas if there's a little pop-up that comes on while I'm there, I can't help but notice it. 04:50:47 spelling error? 04:55:30 *** computerfreaker (~computerf@64-201-72-179.static.genevaonline.com) has joined #portableapps 04:56:02 computerfreaker: :D 04:56:24 Hi, rcmaehl! I was just looking for you, actually. 04:56:44 Why? 05:06:52 rcmaehl: should be "... posE a potential ..." 05:07:24 ? 05:07:31 Not posT 05:07:51 lol 05:08:50 Hey computerfreaker... my memory-saving technique for the Launcher works in Alpha 3 :-) rcmaehl reports that with Bruce's Process Explorer Portable, Launcher memory usage while waiting went down from 6,168KB (A2) to 812KB (A3) :-) 05:09:02 Hi ChrisMorgan! Congratulations! 05:09:21 I did pull that version from the repo, but haven't had a chance to try it yet 05:09:31 hmm, I see you just posted another update on PA. I'll go grab it quick 05:09:33 You COULD use minimem to reduce it more 05:13:04 rcmaehl: I'm not aware of any technique better than EmptyWorkingSet. What does minimem get it to? 05:13:50 128K 05:14:13 In one hit? 05:14:28 ? 05:14:50 By doing it once or every thirty or however many seconds? 05:14:52 ChrisMorgan is asking if minimem only needs one run to do that, or if it takes multiple "free memory" operations to do 05:14:58 nvm >< 05:16:10 I wonder... it's .NET, is it VB.NET? If it is, then you can use introspection on it to get all the source code... ;-) 05:16:35 kerkia minimem google it 05:16:45 rcmaehl: I know, I'm on their site. 05:17:05 I'm asking you it goes though. In one optimisation or by repetitive optimisations? 05:17:33 repetitive every set number of seconds (defined by user) 05:17:57 rcmaehl: I mean, does it get PAL down to 128KB after one or more than one hit? 05:18:22 one hit 05:18:44 Hmm... it's doing some evil black magic then. 05:18:48 then the PAL goes back up and minimem optimises again and it goes back to 128 05:19:25 sounds like minimem is actively taking away PAL's RAM 05:19:33 Yep, evil-type program. 05:19:39 not the kind of thing I'd like to see on my computer, AT ALL 05:20:20 :D 05:20:24 The 812KB should stay rock solid while it's waiting as the process is in the middle of a single-threaded DLL call which won't return until procexp.exe or whatever it's tracking finishes. 05:20:31 http://ks.fcofix.org 05:20:38 EmptyWorkingSet is one thing, doing something more is another entirely. 05:26:36 Hah hah... I see that WinPenPack with X-Inkscape 0.47 revision /10/ finally found out about INKSCAPE_PORTABLE_PROFILE_DIR... 05:26:55 ? 05:27:18 what were they doing before? Manually backing stuff up and restoring it? 05:27:49 I submitted a patch to Inkscape before 0.47 so that it searches for the environment variable INKSCAPE_PORTABLE_PROFILE_DIR to put its settings in first. That's what Inkscape Portable - the official PortableApps.com and Inkscape.org portable build - uses. 05:29:37 computerfreaker: looks like it might have been USERPROFILE wrecking they used. 05:29:56 not redirects?? I thought those were bad medicine for apps? 05:30:21 Yep. Indeed. 05:30:47 * computerfreaker sighs 05:31:33 And just looking at http://google.com/translate?&u=http://www.winpenpack.com/main/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php%3F22548 I see for the first time an X-Launcher configuration file. How ugly. PAL is already far better by the looks of it. 05:32:31 I thought it was INI-configured but I never tried downloading it. 05:32:48 * rcmaehl uses the winpenpack rss feed just to see what programs are updated 05:32:58 not for the winpenpack\ 05:33:06 but the regular computer 05:33:21 rcmaehl: why, oh why? Why not view the individual application vendors' feeds? 05:33:26 * computerfreaker shuns WinPenPack, Lupo, and the rest of that trash 05:33:43 computerfreaker: at least WinPenPack stays legal. 05:34:04 No, they had Coffee on their site IIRC 05:34:14 * rcmaehl tried sueing liberkey but a lawyer said I wouldn;t get the cost of the case out of it 05:34:16 The reason I don't look at their stuff ever really is because it's Italian... 05:34:33 I know Lupo did, but I could have sworn I got Coffee from WPP 05:34:35 computerfreaker: not that I'm aware of, not WPP. 05:34:51 But if they did I would expect them to have attributed it etc. 05:34:57 huh, maybe it was Lupo then 05:35:16 lets all ddos the liberkey site 05:35:18 I hadn't thought so, but that was several months ago and I could easily be wrong 05:35:33 rcmaehl: please don't say things like that, you'll get banned :( 05:35:36 rcmaehl: that would be unconscionable conduct 05:35:48 X-InkScape is also bigger than Inkscape Portable. 05:35:55 yeah 05:36:08 the portableapps compactor pwns all 05:36:09 Release: update available for Geany Portable .18.1 :) 05:40:08 alright chaps, goodnight all 05:40:15 'night OliverK! 05:40:19 its 11:30 here and I have work at 8:00 05:40:27 and I am very at mornings :) 05:40:32 night computerfreaker 05:40:40 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish) 05:41:57 *** loverboy (~43b5413c@gateway/web/freenode/x-omsbropnqradzkba) has joined #portableapps 05:42:11 help 05:42:24 loverboy: what can I help you with? 05:43:06 hi there, i want to be able to plug in my thumb drive and have the launchpad autorun instead of me having to select the correct prompt. it has to do with the autorun.inf file 05:43:18 are you on Windows 7? 05:43:23 xp pro 05:43:30 ok, just a second 05:43:35 http://portableapps.com/node/13770 05:43:47 You'll need to run that program in the background if you want it to work fully automatically 05:44:19 so run it before i plug my thumb drive in? do i have to leave it on? 05:44:20 ChrisMorgan: I'm pretty sure he was looking for an autorun.inf edit, which is what I'm getting right now 05:44:59 computerfreaker: autorun.inf is already there, you can't make it skip the "what do you want to do" step since XP SP2 or so 05:46:56 i tried it and it autoran fine but at the same time i got the prompt box again. so this is the end of the road for me huh? 05:49:30 loverboy: I think so, if you care about the box popping up as well as running. 05:49:37 At the moment anyway 05:50:18 it's no big deal i was just trying to find shortcuts. thanks for your help. i appreciate it. ttyl. 05:50:54 OK, bye 05:51:19 bye 05:51:22 *** loverboy has quit (Quit: Page closed) 05:52:25 ARGH! I've forgotten what I was about to ask :-( 05:53:48 *Phew* I've remembered now. What do you reckon to an environment variable override as well as an INI override for the splash screen - set the env var PAL:DisableSplashScreen[s?] and *whiz* away go your splash screens 05:53:50 ? 05:54:12 IMHO, it's a bit of an overkill 05:54:29 That would simplify it for people that loathe splash screens for some inconceivable reason and yet are too lazy to set it in each INI file. 05:55:00 true, but if they mind all that much, they shouldn't mind setting one option 05:55:06 especially with copy & paste 05:56:13 It's enough to send some people away. And others just find it a minor annoyance. 05:56:19 Personally I don't care in the slightest. 05:58:22 *** sar3th|away has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 06:01:24 After 1.0 I really must work on making a crash-damage-proof (well, -resistant if you like) launcher. You may be pleased to know that it shouldn't be all that difficult now that I've rearranged the launcher. 06:10:06 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Opera Web Browser 10.50 alpha preview! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://www.opera.com/) 06:19:24 *** dwaynebailey (~dwayne@196-210-237-226.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) has joined #portableapps 06:21:33 *** dwaynebailey has parted #portableapps (None) 06:21:40 *** dwaynebailey (~dwayne@196-210-237-226.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) has joined #portableapps 06:22:13 Hi, just got a portable version of Virtaal, a localisation editor, done. 06:22:47 Its a GTK+ app, that on Linux would use the LANG env variable to set the language 06:24:37 I need some help understanding how I can launch the app in the languages of the PortableApp launcher 06:25:01 you'll need to call SetEnvVar in your launcher, most likely 06:25:09 I've seen reference to PortableApp.comLocaleglibc = 'af' but I'm not sure where or how I use that 06:25:12 Tx 06:25:14 and don't forget to set the language list in installer.ini 06:42:07 computerfreaker: Ah I skipped making a launcher and was using a direct call to VirtaalPortable\App\Virtaal\virtaal.exe 06:42:40 :D I made a 7862-bit pass! 06:42:48 I guess that's wrong. What would be a similar app launcher that I could look at for guidance. 06:42:52 dwaynebailey: how would you portabilize it then? (Or is it one of those rare, self-contained apps)? 06:43:06 a GTK app... hmm, let me think 06:43:12 GIMP? 06:43:25 yes, that would be a good one 06:43:46 Well it runs, but yes I need to make it put data somewhere else for for now its running but not fully portable. 06:44:13 I'm not a windows coder so I guess doing it in NSIS would be an easy option? 06:44:24 probably 06:44:31 depends on your coding skill and tastes 06:44:44 I found NSIS hard to learn, but pretty easy to use once you get the hang of it 06:45:15 The app also does some registry changing for file associations, I guess I should be doing those in the launcher also. 06:45:34 My skills are Python so I guess I need to go check out NSIS. computerfreaker tx for the help 06:45:40 you're welcome! 06:49:51 dwaynebailey: hi again 06:50:00 gtg bye 06:50:02 *** rcmaehl has parted #portableapps (None) 06:50:08 I still don't like Virtaal as much as Poedit, but I'll help you nonetheless ;-) 06:50:45 I can't remember what my results were from analysing Virtaal. There were some GTK things you'd need to handle though 06:51:49 There were ~/.recently-used.xbel and ~/.gtk-bookmarks, I think 06:51:54 From the GTK file chooser. 06:52:32 There was an environment variable which you might be able to set, XDG_CONFIG_HOME I think it was. It's possibly worthwhile investigating more. 06:52:53 It is thus possible that you might be able to have Virtaal handle it itself. 06:53:09 ChrisMorgan: looks like he's afk atm 06:54:36 As for your language question, if you're not sure which environment variable you need, I'd suggest installing the PortableApps.com Platform and take a look at all the files in PortableApps/PortableApps.com/App/Locale. 06:56:57 *** computerfreaker has quit (Quit: Bye!) 06:58:08 But if you're just wanting to use the glibc one - which I think you are - in Python it'd be ``os.environ['PortableApps.comLocaleglibc'] if "PortableApps.comLocaleglibc" in os.environ else 'en_US'`` 07:43:32 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08:43:44 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 08:47:23 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 08:49:43 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 08:50:49 *** dwaynebailey has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10:09:58 *** PCJockey (~62d12eee@gateway/web/freenode/x-rbwczhdzavfbxfjz) has joined #portableapps 10:10:14 Good morning. 10:11:36 I'm new to portableapps.com. I'm not afraid to read to get my answer if someone could point me to the right location. How do I install a non portable apps software to run from the portable apps launcher? I ask, because I prefer the 2.x version of KeePass not the 1.x line included. 10:12:13 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 10:12:16 PCJockey: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps 10:12:29 Thanks. 10:12:32 (Don't ask me anything else though, I'm not really involved any more) 10:12:47 Then double thanks. 10:13:54 You konw I knew I read that earlier, but I couldn't find it again...lol 10:17:53 Thank you rmccue. 2.09 is functioning as intended! 10:18:25 :) 10:27:18 *** rmccue1 (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 10:27:43 *** rmccue has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10:31:23 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 10:33:24 *** rmccue1 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10:39:28 Thanks again for your help. I have to restart FF to finish installing an addon. 10:40:29 * PCJockey waves to rmccue on the way out the door. 10:40:38 *** PCJockey has quit (Quit: Page closed) 10:57:44 *** rmccue1 (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 10:58:44 *** rmccue has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10:59:14 *** rmccue1 has quit (Client Quit) 12:41:08 *** Twinkletoes|W is now known as Guest21175 12:41:28 *** Twinkletoes|W_ (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 12:43:06 *** Guest21175 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:16:59 *** PCJockey (~Jeff@c-98-209-46-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 13:23:33 *** Suiseiseki (~POKJ@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 13:27:07 *** PCJockey is now known as PCJockey|Away 13:30:45 *** PCJockey|Away is now known as PCJockey 14:06:29 *** pa_6360 (~466f03b8@gateway/web/freenode/x-wwxqkuoockzipxtg) has joined #portableapps 14:07:09 *** pa_6360 is now known as Bruce 14:08:02 *** Bruce has parted #portableapps (None) 14:08:26 *** Bruce (~466f03b8@gateway/web/freenode/x-dmecqubpytaxjpih) has joined #portableapps 14:17:23 *** Bruce has quit (Quit: Page closed) 14:42:12 *** Computator (~Computato@69-20-171-61.static.ida.net) has joined #portableapps 14:42:12 *** Computator has quit (Changing host) 14:42:12 *** Computator (~Computato@unaffiliated/computator) has joined #portableapps 16:13:19 *** PCJockey has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 16:23:19 *** Simeon (~Itunes@dslb-088-067-132-236.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 16:24:21 *** MaienM|Sleep has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16:28:23 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@53522443.cable.casema.nl) has joined #portableapps 16:28:23 *** MaienM has quit (Changing host) 16:28:23 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 16:39:56 *** sentabi has parted #portableapps (None) 16:49:10 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 17:05:19 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:09:22 *** spectrum1 (~martin@2001:0:53aa:64c:103d:4c45:b213:3fb5) has joined #portableapps 17:09:23 *** rouilj2 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 17:12:19 *** rouilj has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17:17:30 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SergentSiler 17:26:13 *** Twinkletoes|W_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17:27:01 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 17:56:12 *** Darwin4Ever (~Darwin4Ev@082-146-104-223.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) has joined #portableapps 17:58:13 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 18:44:24 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@71.94.227.24) has joined #portableapps 18:44:52 *** kai_62656 has quit (Changing host) 18:44:52 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps 19:09:38 *** pokemonnarutofan (~Tom@cpe-76-87-75-66.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 19:10:35 hey can someone help real quick please & thanks 19:11:10 what do you need help with? 19:12:27 well I am using pidgin and I added this chat to my buddy list and ever since I keep getting this IM popping from something name frigg 19:13:07 i don't use pidgin but someone else here might 19:13:18 so wait and see if anyone else answers 19:14:38 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 19:15:39 oh okay but this is what it says 19:15:40 (19:34:23) frigg: Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to pokemonnarutofan) from frigg 19:16:08 Hello all 19:16:26 hello 19:18:48 is this chat by freenode? 19:19:18 yeah 19:19:48 okay well I found this 19:19:58 http://freenode.net/faq.shtml 19:20:02 and it says 19:20:11 Why does user frigg send CTCP VERSION when I connect to the network? CTCP VERSION is a public IRC client interface which you can turn on or off or even spoof. We've started to request version information using that interface when users connect to freenode, so that we can help users with client-related problems, track down 19:20:20 okay that didn't turn out so well 19:20:22 sorry 19:20:55 oh ok 19:22:09 yeah but that just tells me what it is it doesn't tell me how to stop it really 19:22:50 idk, sorry :( 19:23:17 that's alright got to go laters 19:23:22 *** pokemonnarutofan has parted #portableapps (None) 19:41:17 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@pD955780B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:41:21 *** markomlm has quit (Client Quit) 20:07:48 *** digitxp1 (~Casey@c-68-38-210-23.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:08:01 haven't been here in a while 20:08:35 Why am I digitxp1? 20:20:39 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 20:36:16 *** |kai_62656| (~kvirc@71.94.227.24) has joined #portableapps 20:36:56 *** kai_62656 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20:41:59 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a83-132-128-25.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:43:05 *** |kai_62656| has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20:43:52 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@71.94.227.24) has joined #portableapps 20:52:10 *** digitxp1 has parted #portableapps (None) 20:55:38 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 20:55:43 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-092-075-083-246.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 20:56:12 howdy Simeon 20:56:20 hi Zach 20:58:13 whats new? 21:02:13 exams in the weeks to come :( 21:02:27 keeps me from PortableAppin' like prapper :) 21:03:12 *** spectrum1 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21:03:30 lol I'm still waiting for my pre release splash for PChat, John said he would get it to me 2 days ago and I still haven't seen it xD 21:04:06 happens to all of us ;) 21:05:45 lol he said it would happen that night but I understood most of the reason why he still hasn't yet, he's been a little under the weather a bit 21:06:19 oh 21:06:40 he posted a lot today about silverlight - maybe he is bored... 21:06:45 maybe 21:23:06 *** pa_6891 (~4b6dac6b@gateway/web/freenode/x-mjqwfvzllfbrafio) has joined #portableapps 21:23:48 *** pa_6891 has quit (Client Quit) 21:25:52 *** JacobMastel (~Miranda@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 21:26:42 *** kai_62656 has quit (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net) 21:34:16 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 21:38:14 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:06:20 *** pa_0034 (~88a743c3@gateway/web/freenode/x-cvefsudeoirjchoe) has joined #portableapps 22:06:54 Hi I'm wondering if there have been any issues where installing portableapps causes the usb drive to become write-protected? 22:12:26 pa_0034: : not that I have ever heard of 22:12:33 since no one else is answering, no i haven't heard of any 22:12:39 oh :) 22:12:44 lol :P 22:12:49 hm... do you need full administrator privileges to run portableapps? 22:12:54 It depends 22:12:56 Usually no 22:13:11 However sometimes administrators do run the blocking of unknown .exe files 22:13:16 hmm.... cuz on my flashdrive for some reason with the portableapps installed I've bene getting some weird writeprotection error thing 22:13:38 A few applications need admin privs simply for what they are. JK defrag for example... 22:13:49 do you know what exactly it said? 22:13:58