00:03:30 *** gluxon|gone is now known as gluxon 00:08:26 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Bye everybody) 00:14:31 Ok, after 27 submissions the folks at Clam seem to be convinced that the notepad.exe detection was wrong, it should be fixed in Update (daily: 10468), only took 36 hours 00:22:51 *** ariele (~c86723b9@gateway/web/freenode/x-geshaoiusjxkdmyp) has joined #portableapps 00:23:49 *** ariele has quit (Client Quit) 00:31:17 gluxon: PLEASE don't do that 00:31:45 What did I do? 00:31:55 First there is no release team, and i think you know that, it was dead in the water to start with 00:32:12 2nd, you should not beg for a release 00:32:42 and "I don't care how much work I have to do between now and then" implies speed instead of quality 00:32:55 and we have seen what happens when things are rushed 00:40:14 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 00:59:51 *** computerfreaker (~computerf@64-201-72-179.static.genevaonline.com) has joined #portableapps 00:59:52 computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback 00:59:56 Hi guys! 01:02:42 Hey computerfreaker :) 01:02:52 Hi gluxon! 01:06:23 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@68-118-54-252.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps 01:06:37 *** kai_62656 has quit (Changing host) 01:06:37 *** kai_62656 (~kvirc@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps 01:47:03 *** computerfreaker has quit (Quit: Bye!) 01:50:38 *** Zarggg_ (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 01:52:18 *** Zarggg has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:54:06 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 01:56:57 *** res|away is now known as Res2216firestar 02:08:18 *** belghet (~Basra@c-76-31-138-32.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:08:25 *** belghet has parted #portableapps (None) 02:11:48 *** Usbtastic (~Usbtastic@210.193.201.86) has joined #portableapps 02:12:53 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. SITE DOWN CURRENTLY EST FOR SCHED. MAINT! | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them" 02:13:13 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. SITE DOWN FOR SCHED. MAINT! | If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them" 02:14:17 . 02:14:23 . 02:14:25 As expect the site is now down, it will be for a few hours 02:14:27 . 02:14:28 . 02:17:57 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:18:01 hola all 02:18:23 Hello JohnTHaller 02:18:46 *** Zarggg_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:18:50 It was just noted that the site is down for maintenance 02:18:51 *** Curulan (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 02:19:33 It is indeed 02:19:54 It'll be down for a couple hours probably. 02:20:09 Drupal database work is in progress 02:20:21 let's stick with "few" just to be safe :P 02:20:39 but only a couple would be great 02:23:35 love the page by the way 02:24:26 hello JohnTHaller 02:24:28 Wanted one that looked decent, but simple 02:24:33 hi Gizmokid2005 02:26:02 *** kai_62656 has quit (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net) 02:27:02 it's been fairly quiet in here JohnTHaller , Gizmokid2005 and I thought to hang out in case a bunch of folks started yelling "OMG the site is down" 02:27:31 I take it the upgrade started a little later then planned 02:27:40 Yeah, I popped in to make sure some folks are around. I'll have periods where I'm not watching, though, as I'll be fixing things, whacking things with a hammer, etc. 02:27:58 OH come on TimClark, don't flatter me. I don't have a life and I'm pretty much always around :P 02:28:09 true Gizmokid2005 :P 02:28:18 sometimes JohnTHaller, you just have to use force, for some reason it just tends to help. lol 02:29:06 sudo? 02:29:29 sudo listen_to_me works from what I've heard. 02:31:40 sudo?, isn't that the superuser command? 02:31:47 TimClark: yep :) 02:35:38 *** PCJockey (~Jeff@c-98-209-46-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:36:42 Hello PCJockey - anything we can help you with? 02:37:59 Actually I think I'm doing pretty well at this point. Although I really appreciate you asking. 02:38:23 I'll tell you how I have things set up. And you can tell me if I'm an idiot...;-) 02:38:30 Sure thing. Feel free to hang out, just thought I'd make sure :) 02:39:03 I only have a 1GB device, so I didn't go toooo crazy installing apps, but I currently have: 02:43:32 1) Portable Apps. 02:43:32 2) OOo 02:43:32 3) KeePass (Both 1.17 & 2.09) I'm used to 2.09, so I'll use it anywhere the environment can, but have 1.17 for cases where it can't. 02:43:32 4) FF 02:43:32 5) Thunderbird 02:43:33 6) Coolplayer + 02:43:33 7) Eraser Drop 02:43:34 8) Mines-Perfect 02:43:34 9) Sunbird 02:43:35 10) Notepad ++ (I use this as a Notepad replacement on my desktop too, it's so awesome) 02:43:35 11) Pidgin 02:43:36 12) SpyDLLRemover 02:43:36 13) Sudoku 02:43:37 14) Sumatara PDF 02:43:46 Wow, sorry I should have posted that differently...sorry. 02:46:02 *** Res2216firestar is now known as res|away 02:53:46 it's ok PCJockey, pastebin is a good place for that, just remember in the future ;) 02:54:13 You got it! 02:54:15 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 02:54:58 thanks :D 02:55:09 nice collection as well 02:55:40 my list would be huge. 02:55:57 Woot. Hopefully it will serve me well when traveling. Yeah, I bet you have more than a 1GB device then! 02:56:49 Yeah, I had to drop using a flash drive altogether 02:57:07 I kept killing even good drives like a Corsair Flash Voyager GT 02:57:34 I'm currently using a 160GB 2.5" Ext HDD, with a 20GB TrueCrypt file for my portableapps, just in case I lose my drive somewhere 02:57:53 Ok, I'm out for a bit while working on the DB. Back later 02:57:54 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 02:58:01 I'd really rather get a nice laptop with cellular internet access, but that's just not in the budget. 02:58:41 nah, i don't want to have to pay for a cellphone data plan for my computer, i have my Nokia N900 for when I really need internet when I don't have my laptop 02:58:47 VN. That's actually a pretty cool way to roll though. You have everything I have other than you can't hang it around your neck. 02:59:04 exactly, I just have a little case I can clip to my belt-loop for it. 02:59:30 Yeah, I have a Palm smart phone, but I'd rather use a larger device & do more. 03:00:08 That's sweet. talk about convenient. I'm guessing you've been at it a while though. I just started this a few days ago. 03:00:14 Last year I finally decided to get into smartphone 03:00:26 and started off with the ATT branded Nokia E71(x). 03:00:39 Yeah, I've been around going on 3 years now. 03:00:54 Android OS is looking interesting to me. 03:01:04 yeah, each one has its' own quirks 03:01:29 I think Maemo (well MeeGo now) is the best, it's the most true to the name, OSS/linux OS out there 03:01:32 That they do. Anything based off a *Nix kernel has so so many options though! 03:01:34 and it's really nice 03:01:38 yes it is :) 03:01:50 I've had this phone almost 3 months and I'm STILL figuring things out. 03:02:07 I'm quite interested to see what MeeGo is going to bring to the table now. 03:02:23 I've really been wondering lately if I could truly give up completely on any Win at all. 03:02:32 I can't 03:02:40 I run Windows mainly at home on my desktop 03:02:42 but I'm a gamer 03:02:50 my laptop is a MacBookPro 03:03:01 so I've got OSX there, and my VPS is running ubuntu server 03:03:08 so I use all three, but Windows is my main one. 03:03:21 I look at what I've paid over the years to Mr. Gates and it hurts. Especially when I compare the quality of Open Source projects to what he's delivered. I really kinda feel like I've been ripped off. 03:04:23 You're telling me. I haven't had to buy an OS though, in probably 4 years thanks to school and MSDNAA. 03:04:38 I was lucky enough to get WIn7 Ultimate for $60 because I was a student. 03:04:45 Win. market penetration is so hard to get around. Even if I did try and to to all open source, I think I'd have to keep a Win VM or something. There will always be something you want to run and just doesn't work or have a replacement anywhere else. 03:04:55 I haven't bought Office in forever, though I do use office 03 principally. 03:05:02 exactly. 03:05:41 VN I'm still w/Vista Ult. At least I only paid the OEM price. 03:05:54 I miss MSDN. 03:06:14 I own Office 2007. 03:06:40 I had 2000 before that. Which I got in a HOT kit. Not too many know what that is though. 03:06:49 haha yeah. I refused to touch vista with a 100 foot pole. I only had it in a VM for a while so I could be accustomed to it for work (I used to do phone tech support for an ISP. No scripts or anything, just modemhelp's screenshots and my memory. 03:07:09 I can't say I know what a HOT kit is. I'm not a fan of the whole ribbon menus...so I won't go any higher up than '03. 03:07:36 VM def. helped you then for that! 03:07:36 I ended up getting Vista due to timing of when I built this machine. 03:07:59 ahh yeah. 03:08:06 my XP keys came from MSDNAA as well 03:08:11 and when I had my Technet sub. 03:08:34 HOT is (Hands On Training) Something MS gave for a VERY VERY discounted price a number of years ago to the retail chain. So, I got Office Pro and a few other goodies for like $90. 03:08:38 my desktop went from an XP Pro SP3 install to a dual boot with WIn7 ultx64, then quickly to a Win7 fulltime machine. 03:08:44 ahh, that's awesome. 03:09:33 I wanted an x64 environment but only owned Win 2k at the time Vista was in RC, so I downloaded the RC planning to upgrade to the RTM once it was available. Turned out to be a questionable choice, but no way to know at the time. 03:09:57 Yep. 03:10:23 Nice evolution on the desktop. I never owned XP. Of course I also have had to support it more than I care to though...:P 03:10:31 I just had a feeling that Vista wasn't going to be a good release, so I waited. I watched LOTS of people have LOTS of issues. I sat back with XP and laughed, then Win7 came out, I installed RC and RTM in Boot camp on my mac 03:10:34 and HAD to use it. 03:10:53 so then it was an instant jump to Win7 on my desktop 03:10:56 I loved XP. 03:11:06 Let me redeem myself. I escaped Millenium....hehe 03:11:14 of course, I came from running a machine (my parents of course) with ME. 03:11:22 I hated Mistake Edition with a passion 03:12:01 ok, guys, lets not OS bash, remember PA.c needs windows :P 03:12:11 I'm actually wondering about using some *nix version and having a VM of ReactOS now. I haven't run ReactOS yet, but it does look interesting. 03:12:31 Gizmokid2005: I will need to be away for a while, hold down the fort 03:12:44 Tim - at least we haven't complained too much about keeping BG rich. 03:13:04 funny :P 03:13:07 *** TimClark is now known as TimClarkIsAFK 03:13:11 I'm not bashing TimClark, just saying ME was probably the worst thing MS ever came out with. 03:13:37 That it was. Makes my Vista look like....okay never mind. I'm bashing j/k 03:13:47 I look at MS as a love hate relationship. 03:13:54 PCJockey: I looked at ReactOS a few times, not sure about it though, so if you do ever use it, be sure to let me know. I haven't the guts/patience to set it up in a VM. 03:14:01 Love to hate them ;) 03:14:18 I love to hate 'em & I hate to love 'em, but they have been VERY good for the industry oveall. 03:14:52 That they have. I'd like to see something more open though for sure. They do deserve some kudos, but not too many. Can't give them a bigger ego than they already have; 03:14:58 I shall let you know if I do (reactos). 03:15:57 I'm trying to get more into *nix myself. Actually looking at taking up a few classes at the local CC just to get more into it. 03:16:16 I like to be versed in the stuff I work with, and I can use linux, but I'm still a definite "n00b" when it comes to it. 03:16:32 google and a few friends have helped...I've learned a lot, just not as much as I want to. 03:16:35 I was always a supporter of MS. What turned me against them is the ego. Them trying to take over international standards as well as breaking established standards for NO good reason via (sometimes) immoral methods. If they hadn't done that I probably never would have looked at other options!! 03:17:41 Yeah...they really need to support ODFs a lot more. That has been probnably one of my BIGGEST pet peeves with them. 03:17:45 *probably 03:18:23 Yeah well, the whole *nix world really does rock. I'm very excited to see what Ubuntu is doing. I'm not sure I'd ever choose it as my primary OS & I haven't run it at all, but their focus on end users and ease of operation. They really may get enough market share to bring the world into balance. 03:19:01 Yeah. From what I've heard from users and in a lot of atricles is that 9.10 was a big step backwards for them. 9.04 seems to be /the/ ubuntu version to go for if you want to use it. 03:19:30 Other things too though. Why do they need their own JScript. Why do they need to break everything vs. use what works and be part of the community. People like me would not dislike them at all if it weren't for that. 03:19:39 yep. 03:19:46 I can't stand IE either. 03:20:04 Ahh, I didn't know that about Abuntu. Oh, yeah, IE. is good for only one site. MS.com...lol 03:20:06 "special" html codes/parsing/etc...plus the fact that they are always ages behind what's already going on... 03:20:11 exactly 03:20:14 that's the ONLY time I use it. 03:20:17 unless I"m testing. 03:20:32 As a user I like Opera best, but for development you can't beat the add-ons in FF> 03:21:07 Yep, I open IE. to verify presentation on my own code and for MS site. That's it. 03:21:36 I've tried most browsers (at least the main ones, IE, FF, Opera, Netscape (when it was around)) and I'm just a big fan of FF, especially with the Add-ons available. 03:21:51 lol netscape 03:22:03 When I got heavier into dev. I had such a hard time moving off Opera as a daily browsser for me. It has so many effeciency things like the mouse gestures and the right click paste & execute. 03:22:33 im mainly with ff and chrome now 03:22:45 ahh yes, I didn't like chrome much either 03:22:56 the one thing I wish FF has that it doesn't, is Tabs as processes like Chrome does. 03:23:07 i mostly use chrome when i need to open something but dont wanna open ff with my 100s of tabs 03:23:15 Yeah, FF is my primary now. But I actually have too many Add-ons. I wish they'd come out with a profile feature or something, so you could easily switch between add-on setups. That way when not coding it'd be faster. 03:23:34 PCJockey there is a profile manager in ff 03:24:07 Yeah PCJockey, the Second profile "app" that John put out for PA.c might be good for you. 03:24:37 *correcting myself. It isn't Paste & execute on Opera it's Paste & Go. 03:25:08 Really Bensawsome? I feel dumb now. It will let you do what I was saying? Configure diff. Add-on setups? 03:25:58 PCJockey: you'd actually have separate profiles altogether 03:26:10 different cookies, bookmarks, password managers, add-ons, etc. 03:26:46 PCJockey: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/managing+profiles <-- you'll find that useful 03:27:05 MANY thanks!! 03:27:30 You could create bat files, or even just another ff shortcut to start the profile manager 03:27:31 etc. 03:27:33 it's really useful 03:28:19 I really like Firebug in FF. 03:28:24 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@adsl-99-55-157-248.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 03:28:26 I'm def. checking it out!! Waiting for page load right now....Too many things running. I guess I need more than 4GB or RAM. 03:28:32 Recently started using it when I was working on a new theme for my blog, INFINITELY helpful 03:28:41 haha, not just you PCJockey 03:28:55 I was considering upgrading my desktop's Mobo to a more robust one with DDR3 support and going to 8GB ram. 03:29:00 hello excid3|asus, long time :) 03:29:05 :P 03:29:08 hey 03:29:28 get your logbot done yet? :P 03:29:32 Yeah, I have Firebug. 03:29:54 too busy 03:30:29 PortableApps.com Will Be Right Back... 03:32:09 PCJockey: yep, John is still working on it. 03:32:48 hey thar 03:32:57 i used ie, then ff, then opera 03:33:11 then tried chrome, after that tried ff again 03:33:13 Opera is so awesome if you don't need dev. tools! 03:33:22 nothing could get me away from opera anymore :D 03:33:39 PCJockey: i an completely statisfied with opera's built-in dev-tools 03:33:41 *** Usbtastic has parted #portableapps (None) 03:34:10 Not even a Tsunami? 03:35:36 I didn't mean to bash on Opera Sar3th. I love it. 03:36:17 .g opera dragonfly 03:36:18 sar3th: http://www.opera.com/dragonfly/ 03:36:30 did you try that one PCJockey ? 03:37:12 No. Looking @ it now. 03:38:20 I guess I left Opera too soon. 03:39:46 ;D 03:40:52 Figures. Just when I get in the groove in FF and my Add-ons. I find out my long lost love has caught up to the only reason I left her to begin with!! 03:41:13 lol 03:41:24 i hate the addon part about ff 03:41:38 install 1000 things which slow down your browser to have your essential features in it 03:41:40 :( 03:41:46 I just don't like that the # of them I need do kill performance. 03:42:02 lol. Saying same thing. 03:42:10 i tried the release candidate today :) 03:42:36 All good? 03:44:12 yeah, pretty much the same as the beta 03:44:26 i've been monitoring the release team's updates lately 03:45:13 the search looks great, and the release version will support html5 iirc :D 03:45:14 *** TimClarkIsAFK is now known as TimClark 03:45:30 I keep Opera installed, but I haven't paid attention to her in a while. Really only use her when I feel like a good clean browsing experience from time to time and then also anytime verifying new code. 03:46:13 I'd like to try Opera 03:46:23 but I'd like a full true Opera Portable version. 03:46:51 I'm thinking of an Encore for Opera....heehee 03:48:06 I just never really liked it that much...probably because of all the features that I have with FF and my add-ons 03:48:09 I think I have nearly 30 installed 03:48:11 Funny that FF lets you import bookmars from IE or Opera, but not from FF. Unless there is another profile trick I haven't learned yet. This IRC room seems to be the place to find out all I'm naive about....:) 03:48:41 PCJockey: it's in the bookmark manager 03:48:49 Yeah, they are both good and bad. But I wouldn't want FF w/o them! 03:48:49 all you need to import for FF is just a simple HTML page. 03:48:57 it's very very easy. 03:49:13 Ahhh, got'cha. 03:49:17 Gizmokid2005: what do you mean with true portable verison of opera? 03:49:51 sar3th: I know there's Opera@USB, but I mean one like FF portable, that's actually portable and fits within PA.c standards 03:49:53 and format 03:50:12 well, opera@usb almost does fit our needs 03:50:15 *** Curulan has quit (Quit: Curulan) 03:50:20 it's not in PAF, but it works pretty well 03:50:43 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 03:51:49 yeah I know sar3th 03:51:52 but it's not perfect. 03:51:57 I'd like it to be close firt 03:51:58 *first 03:52:34 it IS close XD 03:53:07 no :P 03:54:55 *grabs all the loose sticks before anyone else gets the idea* 03:55:06 Okay your safe. Go at it....hehehe 03:55:22 lol 03:55:28 nah, sar3th and I get along :) 03:56:23 I figured. Just pokin' fun. 03:56:29 :) 03:56:33 you'll fit right in here :P 03:57:09 I should probably start to work on UltraVNC again, and see if I can officially portablize it. 03:57:22 BooYA *puts down the sticks* man they get heavy faster than you'd think. 03:57:36 haha, you're telling me. I'm the one always around to keep order. 03:57:57 ;) 03:57:59 Gizmokid2005: hf with the driver :| 03:58:08 LIES Gizmokid2005 :P 03:58:20 sar3th: what driver? 03:58:22 you are in charge, but i am around xD 03:58:23 I'm not talking about the server. 03:58:32 I'm talking about the viewer 03:58:32 oh ok 03:58:34 no drivar needed 03:58:36 you need to say that 03:58:39 VNC is/was so cool. I can't help but see what people like Citrix and logmein are doing as so much easier for the end user to get it. 03:58:59 I love LogMeIn so much 03:59:06 plus its so much easier to use, and it's reliable 03:59:13 you don't have to manually refresh the display, etc. 03:59:23 Though, their browser plugin for mac is still pretty fail.. 03:59:48 if you CMD+Tab out of the browser while you're full screen in a LMI session, the menubar goes haywire as does the dock. 04:00:20 Grrr. 04:00:24 Hate those issues! 04:00:38 Yep 04:00:49 and they said it should work but, meh...life goes on. 04:00:57 Other than that, I really like LMI a lot. 04:01:35 A guy @ my church likes it and introduced me to it. 04:01:35 I use it as much as I can...and instead of cluttering up my Home PC or even a VM with work stuff and a VPN I decided to just install LMI on my work PC and use that as my portal 04:01:45 just leave everything on my Work pc where it belongs :) 04:03:20 What VM product do you guys prefer? I have gotten by w/o VM's until recently & I'm still not sold on where I'll land as my prefered product. I've been testing various options. 04:03:41 Once you get over the quirks, VirtualBox works really well 04:03:59 the only thing I'm not too keen on, is the fact that installation and installation of updates resets all network adapters. 04:04:32 Yeah, that would suck! I currently have VB installed. Funny you mentioned it first. 04:04:51 and Seamless mode doesn't seem to work the best in Ubuntu...but other than that, I do like it a lot. I like the whole drag/drop files with virtualPC that VBox doesn't have, but I do believe that was causing random explorer crashes for me in WinXP 04:05:54 Yeah, well unexplained crashes are BBBBB AAAAAA DDDDDD and not in a Michael Jackson way. Sorry I'm dating myself. 04:06:04 brb /afk 04:06:11 *** PCJockey is now known as PCJockey|Away 04:07:26 Lol PCJockey|Away - No worries, I'm not that old but I grew up with 70s/80 Rock so... 04:21:49 *** PCJockey|Away is now known as PCJockey 04:21:59 * PCJockey <<<<<<<<<-------------- is back 04:22:47 wb PCJockey 04:24:22 Thank you...:) 04:25:21 btw, if you want, you can /join #portableapps-ot so we can keep this channel free for general support :) 04:28:55 I shall next time. 04:30:03 [ translation, get a room, i mean channel :P ] 04:30:08 lol TimClark 04:30:14 ty, ty, ty 04:30:31 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 04:31:43 later dudes 04:31:53 night 04:31:56 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps (None) 04:32:14 lol 04:33:17 Lol 04:33:40 Yeah, usually we'll keep most chitchat out of here...#portableapps-ot is for that..but it's ok :) 04:33:48 it's not like we're talking about random stuff 04:34:05 i'm going to bed now, see ya'll l8tr 04:34:26 *** jimmyjeremiah (~jeremy@dsl-69-172-84-179.acanac.net) has joined #portableapps 04:34:39 Take care. Nice to meet ya! 04:34:56 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 04:35:18 you to PCJockey 04:37:54 *** The_MAZZTer has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04:38:19 ZachThibeau: just tried the latest pchat w/ strawberry, it dind't work 04:52:54 alright PCJockey, take care, I'm off to bed 04:52:54 .t 04:52:54 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:53:37 EST 04:53:11 Have a GREAT one!! 04:53:18 I think I'll log too. 04:53:25 Great chattin' with ya. 04:53:54 yep :) 04:53:56 take it easy 04:54:28 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 04:54:38 *** PCJockey has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:06:47 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 05:07:44 Hey all, mind checking out the site? 05:08:15 JohnTHaller: looks good 05:08:29 seem to be working JohnTHaller 05:11:33 Ok, if any issues crop up, please post them here: http://portableapps.com/node/22808 05:16:18 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 05:16:20 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 05:17:13 *** dragonmage (~chatzilla@cpe-075-181-018-020.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 05:17:16 *** dragonmage is now known as drag|away 05:17:28 *** drag|away is now known as dragonmage 05:21:18 Eww... I presume the site being bold is merely a matter of waiting for the cache to renew? 05:21:42 You must be following one of Monash University's slogans: "Go Boldly" :P 05:22:29 Wait, what's bold? 05:22:44 Logged in or not? 05:25:13 Wait, I got it 05:30:03 Did all go smoothly with the maintenance? 05:30:15 I was at Uni at the time so I didn't suffer from it being offline 05:30:42 Pretty well. Just a couple more minor issues to iron out, actually. And then we should be good for translating the site. 05:31:00 Good-o 05:31:17 I still haven't gone through fixing up what I can with the German site... it needs *lots* of pages added. 05:31:30 Took about 3-4 hours total. Had to manually update some tables to the proper current Drupal setup. Manually stripped out a lot of stuff from old modules and settings. 05:31:43 Oh I know. I had Simeon and Marko waiting until we can do it properly. 05:31:44 So currently they're separate nodes rather than Drupal 6 node translations? 05:31:50 OK 05:31:54 Right. Which is why they were waiting., 05:32:02 Yep 05:32:24 I'm gonna strip em out and do them as proper translated nodes now, which will make life much easier. Gonna do auto-switching based on prefix. 05:32:33 Definitely will 05:32:38 Domain prefix or URL prefix? 05:32:41 There's one more bug around clean URLs I need sorted first. 05:32:52 What's that? 05:32:53 Probably URL. Not sure if I want 52 different domains. 05:33:08 Custom URL paths. Like /about/contact instead of /noce.678 05:33:13 /node/678 i mean 05:33:42 We got a bug in ours. http://drupal.org/node/728858 05:34:29 Yes, I've noticed that one. 05:34:48 I pulled all kinds of stuff apart but can't sort where that issue is 05:37:08 Never had it on a site of mine. I have a few other issues, but never that one. 05:37:52 On biblecourses.com.au all filters are applied to the textarea's contents when editing the node which destroys things when you next edit them. A real nuisance, no-one's been able to help me. 05:38:07 I've never seen it either. And didn't see an obvious place that would cause it anywhere 05:38:27 Weird, never seen that 05:38:29 And on my own server Clean URLs cause 404s very occasionally for arbitrary pages - an issue with mod_rewrite as installed on the server, I think. 05:38:40 bpbible.com and christadelphiansindia.com get hit by that. 05:38:47 Part of the reason I'm changing hosts. 05:38:59 Yeah. Never seen that on Rackspace. 05:39:44 Currently with WebHostingBuzz. They lied about "supporting Python" - what they finally admitted to (when I finally got round to needing it) was that that meant that they had the python binaries - but clearly CGI isn't an option for deployment. 05:40:19 I'm hoping WebFaction will be better. 05:40:31 They seem to be in pre-sales stuff and reports, anyway. 05:45:07 I can't do an NSISu build of PAL yet due to this !searchreplace bug (and also !searchparse). Ah well. 05:45:29 what's the bug? 05:48:02 Messing up strings entirely. 05:48:25 Replace .nsh with null in ${__FILE__} (e.g. Core.nsh)... and you get gobbledegook out. 05:48:35 I emailed Jim about it and he said he'll look into it 05:48:46 Ok, cool 05:48:51 I suspect that it's just missing proper multi-byte support there. 05:48:58 I can't figure out why NSIS won't just whole-switch to Unicode. 05:49:08 It does seem strange, doesn't it. 05:49:24 All the big NSIS users are now using NSIS-Unicode 05:49:40 It'd help kill Windows 98 properly if they did... though of course people still use outdated versions of NSIS for everything :S 05:50:07 I really can't understand it; even big players like Google tend to only manage to use, for example, 2.38 for Picasa. 05:50:22 And I've often seen 1.* and 2.1*-2.2* used. 05:50:44 In fact, I can't think of a single thing which has used 2.45 or 2.46 other than our stuff. 05:55:03 *** OliverK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:55:49 Yeah. Can't recall what Mozilla uses offhand. They use NSISu, don't remember which version though 05:56:39 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 05:58:09 *** OliverK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:25:14 Wow, really can't figure this out. Table structure is good. Table data is good. Extension is good. No other extensions are messing with it. Theme isn't messing with it. Hmm. So why is it creating a duplciate URL 06:25:16 Oh! /tracker now has two tabs... 06:25:27 I don't know. 06:25:46 Oh, looks like the view is broken, hang on 06:25:50 Yep 06:25:57 OT is showing too 06:26:14 Cuz the view is broken. That's the standard tracker 06:26:20 Views is crazy buggy 06:26:47 should be back now 06:27:01 *** dragonmage has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 06:27:40 That's better 06:27:54 Had to edit and save it, how odd is that 06:27:57 Part of the reason why I prefer Django to Drupal+CCK+Views... Django is amazingly bug free 06:28:25 At bpbible.com there's been a weird issue where it loses track of what the front page is - so visitors to / get a 404. Solution: go the the site information page and press submit. 06:28:27 yeah, but there's no way i'm gonna switch PA.c to Django 06:28:39 Seems a rather similar sort of issue 06:28:53 JohnTHaller: because of the work involved or some other reason? 06:29:13 I doubt Django can do everything we do with Drupal. And the work would be staggering. 06:32:03 The work is the only reason why I don't do it... 06:32:29 I think Django could do almost everything better and more neatly. But the quantity of work would be prohibitive so I'm not going to try :-) 06:32:41 Forums? 06:32:48 Sure. Fairly simple. 06:33:03 There are already a number of applications to do it, but none as neat as the Drupal system. 06:33:21 I'd want to write a fully (or almost so) database-compatible application for it. 06:33:45 Which would be a fair amount of work. Possible, and probably not all that hard, but not all that fast. 06:34:08 It's fairly straightforward to get Django to fit in with other systems... just a matter of writing your model a bit differently. 06:34:39 The application directory would be a fairly simple bit. the most difficult part of doing "just that" would be reasonable integration with the rest of the site. 06:39:42 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:49:06 *** jimmyjeremiah has parted #portableapps (None) 07:24:53 I hacked it 07:28:14 Not pretty, but it'll work now. And I'm a step closer to figuring out what's up with it. 07:32:19 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 07:38:58 *** dragonmage (~chatzilla@cpe-075-181-018-020.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 07:43:33 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:08:32 *** pins (~509c1c1c@gateway/web/freenode/x-alhbpiwokhxcfeyo) has joined #portableapps 09:09:56 *** pins has quit (Client Quit) 10:22:35 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 10:31:40 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 10:36:24 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 11:07:40 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 11:19:11 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 11:46:06 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... 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We actually switched to PChat as our branding. ZachThibeau did a custom fork of it optimized for portable use. 16:28:00 hmm, so what is Ychat? 16:28:56 It's what the developer of Xchat wanted unofficial builds called. You can build XChat with our the GPL-violating shareware bits included. 16:29:03 with our = without 16:30:55 ok (nods as if he understands) 16:32:12 Hehe. That's ok. XChat is a GPL (open source app) contributed to by many people. A while back, the main developer decided to start charging people for the Windows version and added closed source bits to accomplish this, in violation of the license (basically, an illegal copyright violation). 16:36:52