00:00:50 JohnTHaller: All of the languages provided by Tom Revell (Stickies Author) need to be named "Language70.dll" and placed in the app directory to work. Would it be okay if they were named "German.dll", "Russian.dll", etc., and then renamed when they're moved to the app directory? 00:00:51 didn't tried, and i'm trying to convince her to spend some money and buy a new one 00:01:00 So long as you don't have lots of inactive network drives... that kills 2000's network stack so that you get a delay (frozen) of more than a minute (up to two) when pulling up the drop-down in a file chooser on one of our 2000 machines... 00:01:26 Why on earth would anyone have a ton of inactive network drives anyway? 00:01:51 JacobMastel: Yeah, that works. Or just keep them all in a locale directory and copy and rename them on launch (if the lang changed) 00:01:59 JohnTHaller: VPN connection to work, not always active 00:02:35 JohnTHaller: here a ss: http://ssh.shellium.org/~marlop/imagem.bmp 00:03:04 what's your resolution? 00:03:18 1024x768 00:03:43 hmm... should be ok 00:04:09 wait, this ss is tooooo big 2.09mb 00:04:19 BMP 00:04:20 marlop, it's BMP 00:04:38 http://ssh.shellium.org/~marlop/imagem.jpg 00:04:40 BMP is an absolutely consistent size, directly proportionate to resolution 00:05:15 On updates and On Comments are too narrow... 00:06:11 I don't see that in Chrome... I don't get the table at all. 00:06:41 I think you have to be subscribed to something 00:06:45 Yep 00:07:12 *** JacobMastel is now known as JacobMastel-Away 00:07:27 You've also got to have set "visibility of controls" in http://portableapps.com/user/UID/subscriptions to make some "Visible" 00:07:37 By default they're "Hidden" 00:08:14 Then in Chrome it just looks a /little/ bad (two rows, last heading overflows). 00:08:21 The "On ___" ones don't overflow in Chrome. 00:08:47 Eek! What a horrible table. 00:08:56 `On updates` 00:10:26 There's a "word-wrap: break-word;" rule which applies (in the aggregated CSS)... maybe it's not being got properly in Opera? 00:10:48 That's the only thing I can suggest from a quick inspection of the elements in Chrome (with the WebKit inspector) 00:11:11 ChrisMorgan: Chrome your primary browser? 00:11:20 Yes 00:11:27 I'm always surprised by that 00:11:44 For web development I definitely prefer Firefox because of Firebug. 00:12:01 There is a Chromebug... but that's for the Firefox chrome, not Chromium :P 00:12:08 !! 00:12:20 PChat auto-replaced "teh" with "the" as I typed it! 00:12:29 Never seen that in a chat client... 00:12:43 ChrisMorgan, can you give me a copy of your english lang file for pal? 00:12:43 Just the whole 'every letter you type is sent to Google' thing. It surprises me when geeks choose it as a browser. 00:13:11 At home I use it on my Ubuntu machine, purely because it was working better than Firefox, particularly with memory. Here at Uni (Windows) I use it because Chrome Portable outperforms Firefox Portable (for me at least) 00:13:37 If it wasn't for those reasons I'd use Firefox because I really do like to use Firebug very often. 00:13:47 marlop, what for? 00:14:04 The strings are all listed at http://portableapps.com/node/22997 00:14:28 translate, it's a lot easier to translate directly on the file, less chance off errors 00:15:25 http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/file/tip/Other/Source/Languages/A/English.nsh 00:15:46 Or the raw version, http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/raw-file/tip/Other/Source/Languages/A/English.nsh 00:16:34 ChrisMorgan: It may be easier to post the raw one in the forum topic. Then the responses you get can be used as is as opposed to you have to construct the files yourself 00:17:00 How about a link? 00:18:44 I mean post the raw English.nsh in PRE tags in the topic and then let people translate it. Then you can just copy n paste em out of the topic into individual NSH files 00:18:46 I also discovered that the SimpChinese.nsh file had four strings... but the latter two were in English 00:21:31 Oh, okay... you win. 00:22:05 http://portableapps.com/node/22997 updated 00:22:51 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 00:23:11 the buttons use the locales from the sys right? 00:23:21 ChrisMorgan: Use EditPad Lite for handling the codepages of the different languages. The correct codepage to use is listed in the locale files of the platform for each language we support. 00:24:08 I used Notepad++ and set them manually... I could have done it in gVim but due to its font system I couldn't have verified anything properly anyway. 00:24:35 I tend to look at the NSIS Contrib\Language Files\*.(nsh|nlf) files. They contain those details. 00:24:37 EditPad Lite allows you to verify it on screen and supports more proper codepages than Notepad++ 00:24:51 Yeah, that's where I got some of them from. A couple were missing, though 00:24:52 I /think/ I got them all right though. 00:26:11 ChrisMorgan: the buttons use the locales from the sys right? 00:26:33 JohnTHaller: I also recently pushed my changes to PAL so that you can compile it with the argument (to makensis) /DPACKAGE=X:\PortableApps\AppNamePortable it will set the icon to that one's icon and load Other\Source\PortableApps.comLauncherCustom.nsh for a segment there (if it's there). 00:26:39 marlop, what do you mean? 00:27:29 JohnTHaller: thinking back, should the display name in the VersionInfo also change? 00:27:41 abort, cancel, retry... 00:28:16 Ah. The launcher changes its internal language to the Platform language. If that's not set I think it'd get it from the system. 00:29:28 so in a pt-br sys it will use the system translation for the buttons, 00:29:58 so i will translate the button's names too 00:30:17 marlop: such strings are in the NSIS core. 00:31:40 ChrisMorgan: The buttons are from the NSIS lang files. 00:31:47 i mean the button's names used like that: Press Retry to try authenti... 00:32:05 JohnTHaller, that's what I meant 00:33:12 Wait. They're not defined in NSIS, they'll be from the OS language then I presume. 00:33:23 Just the standard MessageBox flags, so it follows... 00:33:44 *** zwzsg has quit (Quit: http://www.moddb.com/games/kernel-panic) 00:34:11 Of you mean messageboxes. Yeah that's just a standard WINAPI call 00:34:21 marlop, you'll need to translate the string as you have it. The button names should then be translated. "Pressum Retriac too triy authentici..." as the case may be. 00:35:03 that's what i said that i will do :) 00:36:57 Sorry I'm thick :-) 00:49:19 how the web pages with the logs are generated(script, the bot does,...)? 00:49:34 *** Space (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 00:49:36 marlop, palogbot 00:49:47 It does it. 00:50:14 palogbot: help 00:50:14 I'm a Python IRC logging bot. Source: http://inamidst.com/code/loggy.py Logging to: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t= 00:52:17 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00:52:45 It's a simple bot. It doesn't do things like logging kicks. 00:55:59 no it doesn't it generates txt files 00:56:16 i just tried it 00:56:47 You can then access the text files directly or use the web file (don't know what that script is, very simple though) 00:58:31 it just generates a txt file per day, it doesn't generate a web file 00:58:46 probably patric made the file 01:00:14 That script will just look at *.txt files and create a list item for each (and stat the size and provide a link to the txt version). If it's got a time specified it just does simple formatting of the txt file. 01:00:39 The txt files can be accessed directly, as http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/2010-03-19.txt 01:02:08 i know that the txt can be accessed directly, i just wanted the script that generate the web file, i already have a bot that do the loging :) 01:05:04 bye 01:05:37 *** marlop is now known as marlop|afk 01:06:08 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: I'm Busy, Your Stupid, Have a Nice Day!) 01:13:28 *** prapper has quit (Quit: prapper) 01:20:36 JohnTHaller: older versions of the Platform used the VI ProductName for display, didn't they? 01:29:44 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:29:46 ZachThibeau is the poor person that can't get a working server but produces the awesome PChat :D 01:30:33 ZachThibeau, do you know about how XTray doesn't keep its notification settings? 01:31:23 I've turned off notification of CTCPs and another couple of things more than once and it's never kept them unticked when I go to the next computer (not sure if it stays local or doesn't stay anywhere, I should try restarting it now to check) 01:32:04 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Restarting PChat to test XTray settings storage) 01:32:46 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 01:32:47 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 01:32:48 iirc that bug is related to Xtray itself 01:33:01 Lost. Either not stored or killed by PChat Portable. 01:33:07 no it's stored 01:33:07 A nuisance. 01:33:16 but xtray isn't finding it properly 01:33:17 OK then, not loaded :D 01:34:01 unfortunetly xtray isn't being developed anymore :/ 01:34:13 Another opportunity for you. ;-) 01:34:39 I have enough forks on the run :/ 01:35:32 like forking minigtk, then I'm maintaining PChat etc enough programming for me :P 01:35:49 So long as you don't try forking PAL ;-) 01:37:48 *** ZachThibeau_ (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:38:17 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Disconnected by services) 01:38:21 *** ZachThibeau_ is now known as ZachThibeau 01:38:27 *** Res2216firestar (Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 01:55:42 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:56:51 JohnTHaller: I think I'm ready for PortableApps.com Launcher 2.0 Beta 2... but I won't be able to build it till probably part way through next week :-( 01:57:10 I'm also not happy about this weird warning I'm now getting compiling: `unknown variable/constant "" detected, ignoring (LangString LauncherNoSpaces:1043)` 01:58:35 Ah, wait, that's Dutch 01:59:47 Why can't you build it? 02:00:03 g2g now to a lecture, likely to have no spare time till next week 02:00:12 Yeah, that's just a missing LangString. Usually you'lll find you accidentally have it missing from the NSH or have it with the wrong languade code 02:00:20 "$ EXEDIR" - and it had to come in the string LauncherNoSpaces :-/ 02:00:20 :D 02:00:36 Bye 02:00:46 later man 02:01:28 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 02:03:34 *** Res2216firestar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:09:01 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 02:13:42 *** kai_62656 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 02:29:30 I hope someone wouldn't mind. Next time you see John, would you tell him to check his memoserv messages? 02:36:15 dbdii407 i think he made it a rule that he doesnt use memoserv :S 02:37:08 Wonderful.... Need a way to contact him. :( 02:37:18 lol 02:37:19 email 02:37:25 *10 years later* ;) 02:37:28 Did that once, He never replied 02:37:30 *** Space has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:37:35 unfortunately he gets a TON of mail 02:37:37 *** Spaceghost (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 02:37:48 so either he might skip over it or hasnt gotten to it yet :/ 02:38:06 I sent that email about a year ago. ;) 02:38:23 exactly 03:04:03 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 03:12:12 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 03:44:27 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 03:46:10 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 04:38:04 *** Bensawsome is now known as NinJew 04:38:16 *** OliverK is now known as McNinja 04:38:24 * McNinja thinks NinJew is lucky timclark isn't here :p 04:38:28 *** McNinja is now known as OliverK 04:39:43 *** NinJew is now known as Bensawsome 04:43:14 *** JacobMastel-Away has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05:04:36 *** PeaDippin (~Ashhh@unaffiliated/ashhh) has joined #portableapps 05:16:44 *** BjornH has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05:18:52 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 05:21:26 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 05:30:24 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Opera Web Browser 10.50 alpha preview! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://www.opera.com/) 05:30:38 night all 05:30:45 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish) 06:25:36 *** PeaDippin has quit (Quit: This is a quit message.) 06:31:39 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 06:31:41 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 07:01:19 *** Ashhh (~ashhh@unaffiliated/ashhh) has joined #portableapps 07:12:59 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07:38:47 *** BuddhaChu (~BuddhaChu@ip98-162-222-84.ok.ok.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 07:39:11 anyone here have admin on the portableapps.com site? 07:39:56 help! 07:39:57 BuddhaChu: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 07:42:20 well, if someone that DOES have admin on portableapp.com sees this, the link to the latest InfreaRecorderPortable that shows up in the list of the latest apps has and extra double quoate taged on the end of so the link is broken and goes to some weird page. 07:43:10 the link shows up as -> http://portableapps.com/news/2010-03-17_-_infrarecorder_portable_0.50_Rev_3" 07:43:24 it SHOULD be -> http://portableapps.com/news/2010-03-17_-_infrarecorder_portable_0.50_Rev_3 07:43:42 note the extra double quotes on the ned 07:43:45 end* 07:43:55 ok....we up out! 07:43:59 *** BuddhaChu has quit (Quit: Leaving) 07:47:34 *** PCJockey (~Jeff@c-98-209-46-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 07:49:11 *** dbdii407 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07:53:41 *** PCJockey has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 07:53:54 *** PCJockey (~Jeff@c-98-209-46-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 08:00:48 *** PCJockey has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 08:20:33 *** Zarggg has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:21:10 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 08:50:42 *** PCJockey (~Jeff@c-98-209-46-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 08:55:02 *** PCJockey has quit (Client Quit) 08:55:15 *** PCJockey (~Jeff@c-98-209-46-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 09:08:43 *** pa_7935 (~3aaa6a10@gateway/web/freenode/x-bwynajtcygpuhwvu) has joined #portableapps 09:11:01 Hi, anyone have any ideas as to why my autorun.inf isn't loading startportableapps.exe? The file path is correct, the icon and label functions are working, but I have no idea as to why the exe isn't loading from autorun.inf. Thanks! 09:14:16 It's also happening when I use a different executable file (that is, I can't get an executable file to load as part of autorun.inf) 09:14:54 what's the contents of autorun.inf file? 09:15:42 look here 09:15:44 http://autorun.moonvalley.com/autoruninf.htm 09:15:47 at the simple example 09:16:06 if the path to file contains space, you should put the whole thing in " "s 09:16:15 like open="path to file.exe" 09:23:06 here is the contents of autorun.inf: [autorun] action=Start PortableApps open=StartPortableApps.exe icon=PortableApps\icon.ico label=USB_Drive [Content] MusicFiles=false PictureFiles=false VideoFiles=false 09:23:30 Sorry, the line spacing didn't copy across 09:26:49 Thanks for the website, but I knew the main bits (open, icon, action and label). Thanks anyway! 09:27:51 [19:46] if the path to file contains space, you should put the whole thing in " "s [19:46] like open="path to file.exe" thanks for the tip, and this particular one I am trying isn't like that anyway 09:28:50 hmm :P 09:29:19 try asking in #windows 09:29:29 ok thanks! 09:29:36 bye 09:29:41 *** pa_7935 has parted #portableapps (None) 09:29:42 okie :) 09:44:49 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 09:44:51 ... 10:04:40 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 10:39:50 *** pa_3220 (~dcff078b@gateway/web/freenode/x-hgllhvhnpbgbfeoh) has joined #portableapps 10:40:12 anyone here noe how to create portable apps? 10:40:49 *** pa_3220 has quit (Client Quit) 10:45:43 ChrisMorgan, someone mentioned "you-know-what" site in this post: http://portableapps.com/node/22978#comment-145323 10:46:42 Do they? I can't see it... 10:46:47 Missed that :P 10:47:04 yes they do :P 10:47:27 Oh come, come. Look again. I've read carefully through and it's definitely not mentioned. 10:48:10 I see a clear mention that you removed it, indication you did in fact see it being mentioned :P 10:48:16 anyway, thanks for removing it :) 11:00:06 *** SrgSiler|Sleep has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:00:21 *** SrgSiler|Sleep (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 11:02:10 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11:02:35 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 11:22:46 *** PCJockey has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 11:28:55 *** Gringoloco (~5b5c9884@gateway/web/freenode/x-wyyhxnqzfmmoxdgl) has joined #portableapps 11:46:20 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@ed068136.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 12:01:06 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 12:10:41 *** rouilj has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 12:51:27 *** Ashhh has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12:54:12 *** Ashhh (~ashhh@unaffiliated/ashhh) has joined #portableapps 12:58:20 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 12:59:11 *** Rapscallion has parted #portableapps (None) 12:59:41 *** Rapscallion (~Rapscalli@www.locsoftware.com) has joined #portableapps 13:04:41 *** Gringoloco has quit (Disconnected by services) 13:11:07 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13:19:13 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 13:25:25 *** rouilj (~rouilj@216-107-210-99.Renesys.static.cust.seg.net) has joined #portableapps 13:38:31 *** Dude2 (~c12cd478@gateway/web/freenode/x-nwcxaoaihckaycgh) has joined #portableapps 13:38:35 Hi 13:38:46 hiya 13:38:46 Hello 13:40:01 What is Lanikai? Did Mozilla Corp changed Thunderbird's name to Lanikai 13:40:40 no "...The main goals of this release is to find out about possible problems caused by the changes in the underlying platform." 13:41:25 http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/3.1b1/releasenotes/ 13:41:55 so to sum it up its a testing release 13:42:57 So Thunderbird will still be called Thunderbird 13:43:03 yeah 13:44:10 Good. Because Thunderbird is much more cooler than Lanikai 13:44:23 hehe... agreed 13:45:04 And it is easier to say 13:45:20 :-) 13:47:58 So will it be any beta 5 of the 2.0 or final Edition? 13:49:43 not sure. For me it doesnt really matter if its another beta or final. It would just be cool to see the new stuff.... 13:50:28 I agree 13:51:31 For me is it like this as soon it comes out beta or final I am quick to use it 13:52:23 PortableApps.com Plotform is the one and only good platform to use. 13:52:42 Others are just a joke 13:54:28 I wouldn't so far as to say that they are a joke. There are a number of pretty nice platforms out there. But i do have to agree that my preference is still PAP 13:54:52 *** GizmoBot has quit (Quit: GizmoBot) 13:55:10 *** GizmoBot (~GizmoBot@gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 13:55:13 GizmoBot is the official bot of #Gizmokid2005 and #PortableApps. 13:57:21 I am saying so because I did try many other Platforms. And they are a joke. And they should not say it is easy to use. Because it is not. T.ex CodySafe from http://www.codyssey.com/ 13:59:16 LOL I was just going to give CodySafe as an example of one that was not a "joke"... hehe I guess it comes down to personal prefs. 14:00:56 Wante to know why I dont like CodySafe? 14:01:01 yeah 14:04:20 *** pa_9329 (~c1996f3a@gateway/web/freenode/x-czjwwjgcjnlzrkwf) has joined #portableapps 14:05:21 Hello! I'd like to contribute tranlating portableapps into Aragonese language 14:06:15 Is anyone there? 14:06:25 hey there 14:07:06 Do you know how to contribute with translations? 14:07:24 I did basically rejected CodySafe for this main feature. http://www.codyssey.com/images/stories/screenshots/codysafe/Applications_Manager_-_Add_Application.png Because I have about something 100 Apps om my USB Flash Drive. And I dont really have hours to make them put to the use 14:09:18 *** pa_9329 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 14:09:27 create a new forum topic here and one of the mods will be able to point you inthe right direction to translate 14:09:29 http://portableapps.com/forums/other_languages/localization 14:09:32 ahh crap he left 14:09:44 haha 14:09:50 funny thing to say 14:11:43 i see what you are saying about the CodySafe. I agree that it is not ideal to have to add all app one at a time. I woudl be surpirsed there was not an easier way to add a bunch of apps. Did you check the forums there? 14:13:20 About the screenshot? 14:13:49 yeah 14:15:14 No check here http://www.codyssey.com/products/codysafe.html look down under feature it says screenshots 14:15:24 features 14:19:40 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 14:21:31 I am gonna go know. But thanks for the chat and for the help 14:21:44 now 14:21:52 not know 14:22:25 *** Dude2 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 14:30:48 *** prapper (~prapper@5ac58ede.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 14:56:09 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 15:06:49 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 15:17:31 *** pa_9922 (~4b4ba94f@gateway/web/freenode/x-pwwtflzilojaqiuj) has joined #portableapps 15:17:54 hey pa_9922 15:18:22 I replied to your question about the translation (unfortuantely it was 2 seconds after you left) 15:19:09 nvm... 15:19:13 heh 15:19:15 when I download an installer, in this case the one for chrome, and rename it, it still gives me the error that says it must end in "_online.paf.exe" 15:20:48 any idea why this might be happening? 15:21:07 I saw somethinhg about this in the forums... i am just looking for the thread 15:21:19 ok. thanks 15:22:21 it has to do with IE http://portableapps.com/node/22936 15:23:28 Do you think I ought to try downloading it with another browser? 15:24:14 you could try that. I use Chrome almost exclusively and have never had an issue 15:24:51 Ok, will do. Thanks for your help. 15:25:00 np have a good day 15:25:20 *** pa_9922 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 15:29:37 *** pa_6006 (~4b4ba94f@gateway/web/freenode/x-cgcyulmgcgmaqrls) has joined #portableapps 15:32:01 @ Rapscallion - Problem solved. I downloaded it with Chrome and got rid of the .exe Thanks for your help 15:32:44 *** pa_6006 has quit (Client Quit) 15:59:11 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:59:12 ZachThibeau is the poor person that can't get a working server but produces the awesome PChat :D 16:24:02 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:26:26 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 16:26:28 ... 16:28:06 ZachThibeau: :D 16:29:15 hey Mir_ sorry about not responding from your last message, server is down and I'm trying to get a hold of my provider, so far no response 16:29:25 *** Mir_ is now known as Mir 16:29:46 *** pa_5021 (~5efe256a@gateway/web/freenode/x-klmmxlzppfdqurqz) has joined #portableapps 16:29:52 ahhh 16:30:22 give me a heads up when it back please 16:30:24 thanks 16:30:35 sure 16:30:41 *** pa_5021 has quit (Client Quit) 16:30:42 * Mir lurks off in search of the holy foodage 16:34:24 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 16:54:05 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK|LuftBall 16:54:16 *** OliverK|LuftBall is now known as OliverK 16:59:44 *** marlop|afk is now known as marlop 17:09:30 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Chowing 17:10:11 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 17:28:11 *** Spaceghost (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 17:28:48 *** marlop is now known as marlop|afk 17:42:39 *** OliverK|Chowing is now known as OliverK 17:42:51 *** qwertymodo (~monitor@72-160-93-243.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined #portableapps 17:58:30 *** vf2nsr (~Compaq_Ow@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 18:17:59 *** vf2nsr has parted #portableapps (None) 18:35:19 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish) 18:36:57 *** OliverK (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 18:45:53 *** Res2216firestar (Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 18:48:24 *** Res2216firestar has quit (Client Quit) 19:03:03 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 19:21:55 *** Alcasar (~40125748@gateway/web/freenode/x-kdeoayefjjuzyniw) has joined #portableapps 19:22:22 Will there be a SRWare Iron portable? 19:22:33 search :p 19:22:46 .g iron portable site:portableapps.com 19:22:46 OliverK: http://portableapps.com/node/22380 19:22:49 .title 19:22:51 OliverK: Iron Portable 4.0.28 (stable) Development Test 2; 5.0.326 (alpha) Development Test 2 | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives 19:22:54 :) 19:23:02 the power of bots 19:23:13 so much easier 19:23:24 less having to grab my mouse to switch around 19:23:28 until they fight back 19:23:35 hehe 19:23:42 i regualrly cuss at mine 19:26:55 stupid thing had the time wrong lastnight 19:27:01 Thanks but Stable and development test don't make sense to me together 19:27:08 k 19:27:16 iron has two development lines 19:27:20 the stable 19:27:25 and the alpha 19:27:49 development test always refers to the current version of papps packaging 19:27:55 so the Iron is stable but the portableapps iron is in development? 19:28:00 yup 19:28:12 anything that isn't officially released is considered in development 19:28:13 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 19:28:16 no matter how good it is 19:28:30 i can think of a couple dev apps offhand that should be final 19:28:40 and how "good" is Iron? 19:28:45 don't know 19:28:51 its probably pretty good 19:29:03 computerfreaker does a good job with his stuff 19:29:13 try it, its not like it costs anything :) 19:30:33 ya ok, but it's just that google Chrome just got final and it offers local and i'm trying to decide weather i should switch from FF to Chrome for the speed 19:30:51 the privacy problems i don't like tough 19:30:58 honestly, I use firefox, I trust it more then chrome 19:31:06 i run the noscript extension 19:31:08 GO CHROME!!!..... sorry, i'll keep my nose out ;-) 19:31:12 hehe 19:31:30 i've used chrome, its nice for some things, but I like having no script, and I can't get that for chrome yet 19:31:32 me too, but from a usb key in a usb 1 port, it's so slow 19:31:37 ouch 19:31:47 i can imagine 19:31:57 well, my suggestion is keep both on the drive if you can 19:32:08 what? no noscript extension or setting for chrome? 19:32:13 try them both out and come to your own decision 19:32:18 not that I found 19:32:24 but I didn't look very hard 19:32:37 there's not many settings for chrome period 19:33:14 What i don't like about Iron is that i can't change the proxy settings, it uses the IE settings 19:33:21 ouch 19:33:25 that just itsn't right 19:33:42 does chrome have its own proxy system? 19:33:58 yes it does 19:34:08 Don't know yet 19:34:31 Rapscallion: does the new version of Iron do? coz i'm using version 3 19:34:47 Iron im not sure sorry 19:35:00 Alcasar: try version 4 19:35:13 you should be using the latest of whatever web browser you chose 19:35:13 well i see some trials in my near futur 19:35:34 OliverK: That would be FF 3.6 19:35:56 http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1676 noscript + chrome 19:36:05 Alcasar: you said you had version 3 of iron? 19:38:41 FYI You can disable JS script in the config of Chrome 19:38:53 really? neat 19:39:02 i really don't know that much about google chrome 19:39:17 i usually use it for blackboard, twitter 19:39:25 a few things, I don't explore in it 19:40:06 i've been using it almost exclusively for about 1 yr, and so far I really like it. Mostly becasue of its speed. And now that extension are a full blown reality it has only gotten better 19:40:19 yeah, its js engine is fast 19:40:42 blackboard doesn't take over chrome when loading like it does when I use firefox 19:40:55 Rapscallion: What about the privacy problems? Are they real? 19:41:25 google giving you a private tracking number to learn about you? 19:41:29 :D 19:41:37 :-) 19:41:53 and collecting everything you type in the search/url bar 19:42:01 they do that anyway 19:42:11 Google does that regardles of which browser you use. 19:42:26 even ff? how? 19:42:32 unless you disable cookies (this can also be done in chrome) 19:42:45 you are usig there service :) 19:42:49 all things are fair 19:42:54 their* 19:42:57 in ff i disable cookies for third parties 19:43:20 OliverK: nope i use Ecosia for my searches 19:43:55 you can do the same in chrome, although this setting is newer. I suspect as an answer to the privacy concerns 19:44:18 do the same as in diable 3rd party cookies 19:44:48 Rapscallion: so basicaly as is Chrome sends info but you can configure it not to 19:44:56 yes 19:45:22 and I wouldnt so much say that chrome send info but more that google search sends info 19:45:23 Then i have some serious testing to do 19:46:14 again it depends on the search service you use. In fact Google is not the only one to do this. They are just the one at the top of the food chain so they are in the spotlight 19:46:29 google search that's normal, There service as OliverK said, but the URLs should be private 19:47:45 anyways i'll look that over and make my choice 19:47:50 *** Alcasar has quit (Quit: Page closed) 19:48:02 *** qwertymodo has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 19:50:02 shoulda thrown opera in the mix :) 19:50:04 just to be evil 19:50:17 opera ftw :D 19:50:30 opera isn't to bad 19:53:21 better then ie6 19:53:24 by a long shot 19:56:35 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: I'm Busy, Your Stupid, Have a Nice Day!) 19:56:52 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|School 20:02:29 never played with opera at all so I can't really comment 20:02:51 so ignore my last comment ;-) 20:11:50 *** z3uS has quit (*.net *.split) 20:14:59 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 20:31:56 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@pD951FE0C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 20:34:53 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 20:34:54 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a83-132-129-116.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:42:25 *** vf2nsr (~Compaq_Ow@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 20:51:10 *** Pyromaniac (~d840befc@gateway/web/freenode/x-olcmiczxrmfsbynl) has joined #portableapps 20:51:29 I got a question... 20:51:35 for anybody that can answer 20:51:52 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 20:52:15 how does anyone know if they can anser, if they don't know what the questions is :p 20:52:30 Can I edit the GoogleChromePortable Launcher (rename it) and edit to logo... 20:52:35 I'm typing it 20:52:47 :p 20:52:48 and redistribut the installer 20:52:55 without chrome 20:53:08 why? 20:53:31 its under the same license as everything else on the site, with the exception of the actually chrome binaries 20:54:07 ok 20:55:20 I was gonna (try to) make a web browser for my friend (based on Chromium) 20:55:32 he liek chrome 20:55:34 which web browser? 20:55:35 likes 20:55:41 Chromium 20:55:47 I mean the source code 20:55:49 which is different how? 20:55:51 forgive me please 20:56:05 i use firefox almost exclusively and don't really worry about anything else 20:56:25 and actaully, the chromium source is kinda messy 20:57:03 We were going to name the browser after him 20:57:07 (as a joke) 20:57:12 I know it sounds weird 20:57:21 but we thought it would be funny 20:57:21 meh, weird is weird 20:57:26 i'm not worried by it 20:57:34 Its called AAS 20:57:46 AA are his initials 20:57:50 k 20:57:53 and S is systems 20:58:49 Do you just stay here all day? 20:58:55 I always see you 20:58:58 eh, when I can 20:59:01 :) 20:59:16 right now i'm doing my online school work 20:59:28 ah 20:59:33 gizmo just leaves his client on all the time 20:59:39 i don't :p 20:59:46 just whenever I think i'm going to sit for awhile 20:59:54 i probably haven't been all week though 20:59:57 lets see if he is online 21:00:01 been here* 21:00:05 Hey gizmokid! 21:00:13 nope 21:00:18 need the 2005, or it won't get him :p 21:00:32 plus 30 seconds isn't really enough time 21:00:33 :D 21:00:37 @Gizmokid2005 21:01:10 nope 21:01:15 that was one minute 21:01:20 hehe 21:01:25 don't need the @ either 21:01:32 you see the + on the front of mine? 21:01:48 I wonder... 21:01:55 the + stands for a voiced person and the @ stands for a channel operator 21:02:19 so its just OliverK|School or Gizmokid2005 21:02:20 voice 21:02:21 :) 21:02:35 yeah, if the room was muted i could still speak in the channel 21:02:42 I was thinking twitter 21:02:48 yeah 21:02:56 IRC is way older then twitter though :p 21:03:09 gulf war with the first george bush 21:03:13 Pyromaniac, get outa here! 21:03:14 :) 21:03:17 ah dang 21:03:29 Pyromaniac: what'd you want :p 21:03:42 I wanted to see if I could be john 21:03:56 nah, he's probably got it protected 21:03:59 why did you go red 21:04:03 hmmm 21:04:10 because I addressed you 21:04:13 oh 21:04:14 what are you using, pdigin? 21:04:22 or pchat 21:04:27 pchat 21:04:44 whenever you say somebody's name, it do some stuff to get there attention, so do so sparingly :) 21:04:48 pchat's good 21:05:07 pchat is the one on PA right? 21:05:12 yeah 21:05:14 ok 21:06:02 i'm using miranda righ tnow, because I have popups in miranda :) 21:06:10 ah 21:06:17 if I was doing channel manipulation, I'd want xchat 21:06:17 How many apps you got 21:06:20 much easier 21:06:25 alot :p 21:06:26 How many apps you got 21:06:41 beat 62? 21:06:50 miranda, xchat, ff, thunderbird, and geany are my main ones 21:06:52 at one time 21:07:00 i haven't counted 21:07:24 plus i've got probably all i've ever downloaded on my server, so I can get them pretty quick 21:07:24 you know how to do standard deviation? 21:07:26 :) 21:07:30 for chemistry? 21:07:34 nope 21:07:37 I'm doing school stuff too 21:07:40 not a chem major 21:07:46 google might 21:07:51 yeah... 21:08:19 can you just not get the calculations right? 21:08:27 google doesn't ever show my website 21:08:30 but bing does 21:08:44 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 21:08:47 I did 21:08:52 get the calculations 21:08:58 that's good 21:08:59 but I think I need the formual 21:09:15 oh, well, that should be in the back of the book 21:09:15 what grade you in? 21:09:16 or index 21:09:23 or college? 21:09:31 college 21:09:41 you seemed young in your website 21:09:42 pretty much a small void between 2nd and third year 21:09:43 :P 21:09:48 oh 21:09:55 hehe, i was young when I made my website 21:10:03 i'm a sophomore 21:10:07 HS 21:10:09 :P 21:10:15 starting college when i did that 21:10:21 i'd pretty mcuh JUST gotten the internet 21:10:37 before that, I had it the day before 2000 rolled around 21:10:45 and then snip :) 21:11:09 what are ya majoring in? portable app development? :P 21:11:23 got my associates in engineering 21:11:32 now i'm switching to system administration 21:11:34 i hope 21:11:57 is that like setting up system networks and such? 21:11:59 found out that engineering starts with cad which is alot of sitting on my butt 21:12:01 yup 21:12:06 computers 21:12:21 basically, everything int he building, i have to know about and be able to find a way to fix it 21:12:24 comps are my third string job 21:12:26 and yes, google helps 21:12:42 bing too 21:12:53 i run linux :p 21:12:56 i shun bing 21:13:03 actually, only half true 21:13:07 ubuntu 21:13:07 ? 21:13:08 right now, winxp 21:13:33 nah, I ran mepis on my laptop,but I'm probably switching to opensuse if the hardware support is better 21:13:44 i just like google and don't care to try bing 21:14:01 you gonna try ChromeOS? 21:14:08 nah 21:14:18 its linux AND google 21:14:25 2 good things 21:14:28 meh, i don't use chrome :p 21:14:46 google alright, but I get kinda scared thinking about using there stuff 21:14:50 their* 21:14:59 be warned, i can't spell :p 21:15:07 i'll stick with debian or opensuse 21:18:30 also, the fact that chromeOS is being developed pretty much for specific hardware 21:18:46 and you can only find community compiled builds (no official build FROM google) 21:18:51 scares me off, no thanks 21:21:01 chromeOS is for netbooks 21:21:12 its meant to run fast on low memoer 21:21:15 yeah, i don't have one yet 21:21:16 memory 21:21:19 wish i did 21:21:49 in the case of low memory, i'll go with xfce window manager :) 21:21:57 of, xubuntu\antix 21:23:33 the only linux I've used are 21:23:49 ubuntu, puppy, slax, DSL 21:24:00 never heard of anything else 21:24:01 puppy is nice, dsl sucks 21:24:05 *** travlingeek (~Omnishado@142-217-226-140.telebecinternet.net) has joined #portableapps 21:24:08 its ol 21:24:09 ok 21:24:15 xubuntu is a derivative of ubuntu 21:24:19 its like kubuntu 21:24:27 howdy travlingeek 21:24:35 hello all 21:24:57 Pyromaniac: ubuntu comes with the GNOME window manager, xubuntu uses xfce, kubuntu KDE 21:25:02 i hate dsl's interface 21:25:14 travlingeek: if you need anything, feel free to interupt 21:25:40 no i just discovered this irc so far need nothing particular 21:26:00 cool, welcome to a wonderful world 21:26:03 DSL is no more 21:26:10 tiny core linux FTW 21:26:20 oh, I used tiny core, too 21:26:24 slax is nice too, backtrack 3 is based on that 21:26:27 im using puppy linuux as a small live cd 21:26:35 the dev of DSL is now the dev of tiny core iirc 21:26:42 but backtrack 4 is based on ubuntu, which is kinda nice 21:26:52 yeah, I like puppy linux, its very nce 21:27:10 if i had to grab one cd, that I knew i could count on, that'd be the one 21:27:16 though I like antix as well 21:27:23 toss up 21:29:07 SLAX is super slow 21:29:10 on live CD 21:29:13 puppy is fast 21:29:16 usb it works well 21:29:20 cd is awful 21:29:25 USB ftw 21:30:05 if your computer supports usb booting :/ 21:30:15 this is true 21:30:21 my newest desktop doesnt 21:30:22 *** Simeon (~Itunes@dslb-092-075-092-244.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 21:30:22 my laptop technically doesn't 21:30:27 but one more model up and it could -_- 21:30:30 hi 21:30:37 hi 21:30:38 but throw a little GRUB awesome sauce and you're good 21:30:42 howdy Simeon 21:30:51 Bensawsome: what a rip 21:30:54 true OliverK|School 21:31:03 well i got it for free so i dont mind xD 21:31:06 mac? or windows? 21:31:13 ah, this mitigates the issues 21:32:03 Bensawsome: mac or windows? :p 21:32:20 dell dimension 8250 21:32:26 heh 21:32:27 so is this like related to portableapps.com or is this like a room where we mainly discus like various portable live distro 21:32:27 hack it 21:32:30 dude if you have a mac that doesnt support usb booting 21:32:40 bullshit :p 21:32:42 then that mac is from like.... early 90s 21:32:47 wow, nice 21:32:54 ya 21:33:01 just talk about what you feel you need to talk about 21:33:01 i have a pc from 2000's that fails 21:33:11 yeah, pretty much 21:33:18 try to keep it computer related 21:33:40 some people get on you if you travel to far out, but so long as no body is here for support, you should be okay 21:33:44 ok that i think will not be a problem lol 21:34:08 but ya dude. when macs frist got usb... thats when they started supporting booting from them i believe 21:34:12 *first 21:34:18 nice 21:34:36 well, this one that doesn't has usb 1.1 21:34:49 as far as my laptop, i dn't know whats up with it 21:34:54 lol 21:35:11 *** marlop|afk is now known as marlop 21:35:36 most of the computer i have has usb but not boot from usb the only 2 computer that is capable of booting of usb are my 2 compac computer i have in the living room 21:35:42 Im out c-ya 21:35:50 cya Rapscallion 21:35:58 *** Rapscallion has parted #portableapps (None) 21:37:46 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 21:38:14 altho i dont realy complain about the fact that they boot or not into usb cause i normaly do a install of the os be it puppy or other linux i use 21:40:08 the only problem i get in the majority is finding a decent serial modem to use on them cause yes im still on dialup well i should say im force to use dialup cause i live in the country in a small village that has not much technolgy available 21:40:54 hey, a connection's a connection. Better then what I had at my house a year ago 21:40:57 nothing 21:41:10 *** Pyromaniac has quit (Quit: Page closed) 21:46:48 *** BuddhaChu (~BuddhaChu@ip98-162-222-84.ok.ok.cox.net) has joined #portableapps 21:49:44 *** BuddhaChu has quit (Client Quit) 21:52:34 *** ve4jhj (~ve4jhj@204.16.150.105) has joined #portableapps 21:52:49 *** benedikt93 has parted #portableapps (None) 21:54:36 *** travlingeek has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 22:03:33 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 22:07:20 *** ve4jhj has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 22:23:50 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:26:59 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 22:27:45 *** ve4jhj (~ve4jhj@204.16.150.105) has joined #portableapps 22:29:41 Does anyone know ifthere's anything further I need to do to get Scribus Portable to Pre-Release? 22:29:43 *** arc_ (~bb6ff576@gateway/web/freenode/x-zxvhqvkvbqfvtuwe) has joined #portableapps 22:29:57 put john t haller in a headlock 22:29:58 hey, is there any adm on ? 22:30:03 drag him over to see it 22:30:14 sorry ve4jhjbut there's nothing we can do 22:30:22 maybe yell at chris morgan and see what he thinks 22:30:25 yeah, that's about the only thing that works :P 22:30:26 thanks OliverK. 22:30:30 arc_: not really, but what do you need? 22:30:45 maybe, just maybe, we can help 22:30:59 I would like now if I could suggest some software to be added to the site... 22:31:15 sure, head over to the request apps forum 22:31:15 do you know someone I can speak about this ? 22:31:28 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 22:31:29 .pa request apps forum 22:31:30 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 22:31:31 OliverK|School: Request Apps: http://portableapps.com/forums/general/request_apps 22:31:41 drop a note in there, that should do :) 22:31:46 haha, thanks guys ;D 22:31:54 make sure you search first though, you find find what you are looking for in the forums 22:31:59 no problem 22:32:06 I just didi 22:32:09 *didi 22:32:12 *did 22:34:20 ChrisMorgan: I was just asking the room if there's anything I need to do to get Scribus Portable to Pre-Release. do you have any thoughts on the matter? 22:34:47 ve4jhj: it's a PAL app isn't it? 22:35:06 yes 22:36:16 *** arc_ has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:38:08 I'll try to take a look at it on my VM some time next week. I'll see if Scribus itself is any more stable than the previous release; if it's not then I don't think I'll recommend it. I tried 1.3.3.13 (think that was the number) on Vista and had no difficulty whatsoever in making it crash in a completely reproducible and common use case. 22:38:22 But I'll still file a report of your portable version if I test it. 22:38:27 Then we'll see what happens. 22:38:41 Thanks, Chris. I appreciate it. 22:39:32 All PAL apps will wait till PAL 2.0 final is released (I've got a couple ready for Pre-Release myself, GanttProject in particular has been flagged as ready for PR but I won't do that until PAL 2.0). 22:39:38 You're welcome :-) 22:39:59 I'll be interested to see the rate at which new DT apps come in and the quality of them once PAL is official. 22:40:18 It may be better in the upcoming release, but I won't be testing it myself until it's official. 22:42:15 provided the developer does a good job, they should be pretty decent. 22:54:52 *** Res2216firestar (Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 23:03:14 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: I'm Busy, Your Stupid, Have a Nice Day!) 23:04:30 *** ve4jhj has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 23:12:22 *** marlop is now known as marlop|afk 23:29:16 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@adsl-99-73-197-48.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 23:29:24 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 23:37:52 *** Res2216firestar_ (~Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 23:39:29 *** Res2216firestar_ has quit (Client Quit) 23:40:24 *** pa_1481 (~63c42512@gateway/web/freenode/x-cripxzqkgiryhpmu) has joined #portableapps 23:46:49 * pa_1481 I am trying to instatt Portable Apps on A flash drive. My operatinf is Win 7 Home preium. When I install the platform It works until I close it then try to bribg it back up . ?? 23:51:28 *** Res2216firestar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:53:08 *** Res2216firestar (~Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 23:53:49 Res2216 23:56:22 Res2216firestar: Would help me? 23:56:44 pa_1481, what's your question? 23:57:47 pa_1481: click on the icon in the windows bar to bring it back up; or if you quit it, start it again by running it from where you installed it to. 23:58:18 I am trying to install the port aps .menu. I can grt it installed it but when I close it out it wont come back up. I'm using Win 7.