00:00:41 So, start with #1... check the drive for errors. Fix em. If there is an existing copy of GIMP there. Delete App\GIMP (as long as you don't have any custom brushes added). Then try installing again. 00:00:53 So I can test #1 by ejecting the drive, #2 by rebooting. How do I test #3? 00:01:12 How do I check drive for errors? 00:01:16 1 you need to check for errors, too. 00:01:42 In Explorer, right-click the drive and select properties. In the window that comes up, select the Tools tab. In there, click Check Now in the check for errors groupbox. 00:02:06 As for the antivirus, I'll check for any false positives on that file now... 00:02:37 It's not just that file. It's a lot of files when installing Gimp, OpenOffice, etc 00:03:21 Ah, that's a different story. That kind of rules out a DLL being locked... as long as you're sure the apps aren't running. 00:03:36 What kind of drive do you have and where and when did you buy it? 00:04:00 Brand new LaCie 8GB imakey drive. Purchased from Amazon 00:04:11 Which vendor on Amazon? 00:04:23 Amazon itself 00:04:38 Just trying to make sure it's a reputable one and not a hacked drive. A lot of them go through ebay and 2ndary stores on Amazon. 00:04:56 Did you just get the drive recently? 00:05:06 just got it today. 00:05:10 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 00:05:11 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 00:05:27 Ok. Are you using it on your own PC or a PC you know has good USB ports that you've used other drives on? 00:06:26 Ok, just verified that there are no false positives in that file in any major antivirus, so we're on the right track in thinking this is a drive hardware issue. 00:06:46 Results if you're curious: http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/720fff250b9d94215fdbcaf8a58dd1b549895c8c1e9ff33ac08edea746f1328c-1269388978 00:07:40 I'm using my own pc, and a usb port that has worked frequently in the past. 00:08:17 It's still checking the drive for errors, and after all this time, only about 20% done. Is this typical? 00:08:34 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:08:36 ZachThibeau is the poor person that can't get a working server but produces the awesome PChat :D 00:08:40 pa_9096, when you use the full error check it is pretty slow. 00:08:43 Ok, it's looking like a bad drive at this point... which does happen. Try installing GIMP Portable to your PC (anywhere is fine except C:\Program Files). And then copy the GIMPPortable directory from there to X:\PortableApps where X is your drive letter. 00:09:00 I presume the drive is fairly empty at this point though? 00:09:27 yes, drive is pretty empty. PortableApps and portable apps are the first things I've put on it. 00:09:37 ChrisMorgan: Already confirmed that the PC is ok. Happens on multiple products. Bought from Amazon itself (reputable). And it was received today. 00:09:44 Yep, I read the logs 00:10:30 But chkdisk /f (or the graphical equivalent, checking for errors with auto-fix problems) is pretty slow. If the drive is fairly empty it shouldn't be /very/ slow. 00:10:35 Ok. pa_9096, you can try installing GIMP Portable and OpenOffice.org Portable locally and then copying them to the drive. But, even at this point, it most definitely sounds like a drive issue. 00:10:43 I'd say so too 00:11:17 ChrisMorgan, did you ever figure out what was causing Revo Uninstaller Portable not to launch? 00:11:21 You can either swap it with Amazon (which will probably be fastest since it is brand new) or do a warranty exchange with LaCie, the iamaKey has a 2 year warranty. 00:11:41 Scriptdaemon, not yet. I can't get admin on this machine here at Uni so I'm somewhat stuck with it (I'll try it though without admin) 00:11:45 Since you just got it today, Amazon is probably the easiest. 00:11:47 You guys are great. Thanks for your advice. I'll call amazon as soon as I run through a few of your suggestions. I'm sure amazon will replace quickly 00:12:16 pa_9096: Cool. You're welcome. Hope they can exchange it nice and quickly for you so you can start using your apps! 00:12:39 What is the best way to package a jar program to create a portableapp out of it? 00:12:51 Nice and quick is key. I'm leaving for China on Saturday! 00:13:02 vf2nsr, the PortableApps.com Launcher 00:13:22 pa_9096: Ouch. I'd inquire about cross-shipping, then. 00:13:29 as a techie not a programmer is it intuitive or do I have a huge learning curve on it? 00:13:39 Have then charge the new one to your credit card and then refund it when they get the old one. Just to make sure you get it in time. 00:14:24 My experience with Amazon is that they're not even going to want the old one back, and they'll send the new one at no charge immediately. We'll see 00:14:27 vf2nsr: set ProgramExecutable to javaw.exe and then have CommandLineArguments something like "-jar foo.jar" 00:14:39 Oh, and [Require] Java=require 00:14:57 pa_9096: Ok, well, I hope you get it in time. Maybe get them to spring for express shipping for your trouble ;-) 00:15:00 [Activate] I mean 00:15:01 ok I can force it to use the portable java or do I let it decide? 00:15:51 vf2nsr: if you put in the [Activate] section with a value Java=require, it'll use the portable Java if found or fall back to a local installation or failing that complain. 00:16:34 awesome now I need to wait permission from the author to try it thanks....finally cound me an opensource blackjack game I like :) 00:17:29 and referred him to th PA site as he wsa looking for a way to run java portable as well ;) 00:19:08 I'm going to *attempt* to portabilize Blood Frontier with the PA.c launcher. When I can make time, of course. 00:19:43 That's a rather large game though, so I have to figure out what I can upx too. 00:20:42 I trying to start small lol haven't done any programming since the days fo the TI99/4A want to get comfortable with the little stuff and the conversions first 00:22:04 thanks guys ! 00:27:52 off to play I guess see what kind of trouble I can get into 00:27:56 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]) 00:31:24 *** ptmb has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00:31:46 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:32:03 anyways howdy all :) 00:41:09 Hey ZachThibeau. 00:41:17 whats up 00:41:21 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 00:42:00 I got disconnected earlier because my computer hibernated, and when I got back I got a separate tab (warnings) with a huge list of warnings for PChat. 00:42:14 Gdk gdkdrawable-win32.c:1259: LineTo failed: The handle is invalid. 00:43:40 thats normal, to turn that off one has to set a environment variable (something I forgot to add when I was working on the package) 00:44:00 but it's nothing to worry about, more or less it's just a debugger of sorts 00:44:29 Ah, so in the code itself it is intended to be surpressed though? 00:44:44 What causes that, btw? 00:45:06 through an environment variable yes without the environment variable set then it will spit out like that 00:45:43 I know where it is in the code so next release I send out I'll comment out that part so I don't have to add the environment variable at all 00:46:33 Or allow it only in debug mode? 00:47:22 nah I'm just going to remove debug mode altogether in that case. maybe force it to write to a text file instead of a new tab 00:48:56 either way it'll be fixed next release, atm my main concern is getting my server running again and the site content running properly and then make a linux build 00:49:47 Yeah. 00:50:48 When do you want to start on rewriting it in wxWidgets? 00:50:53 I'm thinking of making a wordpress theme based off of the UI of PChat for the PChat site :) 00:51:09 That'd be cool. 00:51:15 and I already started something I just have to submit it to svn under the branch folder 00:51:15 ZachThibeau, hey, I don't want an application which looks like a website! 00:51:56 ZachThibeau, when it really gets scary is when you apply a custom persona to Firefox 3.6+ users when they access the site... 00:52:12 ChrisMorgan: well good thing I'm basing a website that looks like an application ;) 00:52:34 And the same persona to your PA.c Menu, too.... Oooooooo 00:52:52 EEEEEK! 00:53:07 anyways it's just an idea I'm toying around 00:53:12 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 00:53:22 night MaienM|Sleep 00:53:35 I browsed the source a bit, and a few config classes I looked at I believe can be completely done with built-in wxWidgets config classes. 00:53:46 nice :) 00:53:55 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 00:54:15 chris I am a bit confused? do I create a launcher.ini file that the PA LAuncher accesses? To portablize a jar program? 00:54:31 once I get my website stuff straightend out I'll add you to the sf.net project page so you can have svn access Scriptdaemon 00:54:44 At least the one that parses .ini files. wxFileConfig does that. 00:54:46 vf2nsr: yes 00:54:56 Awesome. 00:55:23 and then the laucher is placed into same directory and will launch it (hopefully)? 00:55:43 Scriptdaemon: go to -dev for the continuation of the conversation :P 00:56:15 Don't mean to sound stupid or be a pain 00:56:22 vf2nsr: something like this: ./FooPortable.exe, ./App/AppInfo/Launcher/FooPortable.ini, ./App/AppInfo/Launcher/splash.jpg, ./App/Foo/foo.jar 00:57:16 ok will give it a try 00:57:18 ty 00:58:36 *** res|away is now known as Res2216firestar 00:58:52 Bye, lectures now. 00:58:55 later 00:59:04 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 01:05:57 *** vf2nsr_ (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:06:16 *** vf2nsr_ has parted #portableapps (None) 01:06:35 *** vf2nsr_ (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:07:09 *** vf2nsr_ has quit (Client Quit) 01:08:46 *** vf2nsr has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01:09:59 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 01:16:55 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 01:17:06 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop|afk 01:19:11 I just enabled additional social networking buttons on stories. They appear at the bottom. What do you guys think? http://portableapps.com/news/2010-02-23_-_firefox_portable_3.6.2 01:23:16 Could certainly help get the word out. 01:23:23 Dats the goal 01:23:39 alright, back in a bit 01:23:45 *** JohnTHaller is now known as JohnTHaller|away 01:40:44 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:41:03 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:44:34 *** JohnTHaller|away has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 02:01:06 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]) 02:11:11 *** kai_62656_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:55:11 *** OliverK (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 02:56:39 Anybody have any suggestions on what they'd like to see on app homepages? A layout rework is in progress? 02:57:04 works for me 02:57:29 Thinking about combing description and features into a simple paragraph 02:57:42 *** excid3 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 02:58:08 I thought of some things awhile back, but now I can't think of 'em. 02:58:23 If you do, I'll create a thread in the forums for suggestions 03:00:08 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 03:00:08 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 03:00:15 hola ChrisMorgan 03:00:41 Hey JohnTHaller 03:01:20 how was lecture? 03:01:51 The MTH1030 (Modelling Techniques, maths) one was interesting, the FIT1002 (Computer Programming) was boring as usual. 03:02:44 I haven't learned anything worth learning in FIT1002... the only things I have learned are Java things which I would otherwise just have learned from the Java API reference when I needed them. 03:03:45 So now I'll get back to my interesting programming ;-) 03:04:02 Hehe. I spose PAL is def more interesting 03:04:09 Most assuredly. 03:04:32 btw - you need to email me your address. i want to send you one of our super-rare limited edition ultra cool PA.c drives :-) 03:04:42 Ooooh! 03:04:58 You've done more than enough work to be on the shortlist of owners... seriously 03:05:22 Don't say that in chat. You'll make everyone jealous. 03:05:24 ... :( 03:05:32 Do more :-) 03:05:35 Kidding, kidding. 03:05:40 Hehe 03:05:42 I'm waiting for the launcher! 03:06:14 We'll probably do a run of them as a fund raiser at some point. But not this first run. They're give-away only. May give away one to forum members, twitter followers and facebook fans as a promo soon, though. 03:06:15 Revo Uninstaller should be good to go, other than the not-launching thing. 03:06:29 Yeah :-( 03:07:33 Next is Speccy, Blood Frontier some point in the future (maybe), and a bunch of other things I've been looking at. I want to focus on one at a time for now though. 03:08:29 I must check through the Google Chrome Portable Passwords plug-in source code... unless I mistyped the password on the previous attempt, it always then puts up a warning message box "Keyset does not exist." It works fine though. 03:08:57 you'll get that whenever you mistype a password 03:09:01 otherwise, it won't show 03:09:09 OliverK, the "Keyset does not exist."? 03:09:17 should be 03:09:18 If I get it wrong it says "wrong password". 03:09:23 really? 03:09:26 i've never gotten that 03:09:35 that i can think of 03:09:36 If I get it /right/ then unless I got it wrong last time it says "keyset does not exist" 03:09:54 If I get it wrong then it says "wrong password" and then next time /doesn't/ say "keyset does not exist" when I get it right. 03:10:04 That's with PortablePasswords=true and EncryptPasswords=true 03:10:54 *** excid3 (~chris@student213-175.cv.siue.edu) has joined #portableapps 03:11:02 hhm 03:11:09 i don't know what settings i have in the ini 03:11:13 and i'm nessing with something else 03:11:24 bugger messed with my .def in another channel 03:11:26 fix him 03:11:30 I only have PortablePasswords=true, all the rest is left. 03:14:11 That's why... I had wondered why when in Mixxx I closed the Preferences with Escape the window went fullscreen and I couldn't get it right again. Escape makes it fullscreen and vice versa, even through a subwindow. 03:14:35 And so Mixxx window takes over again and the preferences window actually stays open, behind. Tut tut. 03:14:54 Mixxx Portable seems to be working well though. 03:15:23 Wonder if it's fixed in their beta. 03:15:45 Cool. I'm itching to get Mixxx out. Probably will with PA.c Launcher Beta 2. ALong with LMMS and the new music suite 03:16:01 I don't know. It's something most people wouldn't find out about as most people don't close Preferences windows with Cancelling and most don't press Escape to do it anyway. 03:16:16 OK, I'll try to push out Beta 2 now. 03:17:04 *** Res2216firestar is now known as res|away 03:18:13 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 03:19:03 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|test 03:19:33 *** OliverK|test is now known as OliverK|Test 03:19:40 JohnTHaller: I'll be using the PortableApps.com Installer Unicode build 03:20:32 Ah ok. I'm gonna start switching over to it tomorrow, myself. Gonna be the new official one. 03:20:48 Should I wait for a new build of it then or not? 03:20:52 I imagine not 03:21:23 Well, the PA.c Launcher installer won't really be used by end users anyway, just devs, so it's fine using the current build. 03:21:33 True 03:22:20 I'm gonna do a test build of it tomorrow, most likely. And I think I am gonna just update to Delphi 2010 and go Unicode the whole way. Then the backup, updater, menu, launcher and installer will all be unicode and can all use unicode translations (No more codepaging!). 03:22:30 I just need to get the embeddedlists C updated for Unicode. 03:22:34 That will be nice for all of us. 03:23:04 And so 1.6 will be declared the last for 98 support. 03:23:41 In some ways it could be nicer if you could do a final 2.0 ANSI build. Otherwise people using 98 might complain of favouritism or something with the new features being 2000+ 03:23:43 Yup. That'll be the plan. Just a lot easier to make the break now as we'll be updating everything anyway. All apps getting updated for the graphics and installer refresh anyway... so why not just get it all done now. 03:24:02 Yep, it's sound logic. 03:24:17 1.6.1 will probably be a final Win98 build. An ANSI updater won't work with the Unicode updater.ini on the server anyway. 03:24:39 Depends on whether it's UTF-8 or UTF-16LE. 03:25:01 ANSI and UTF-16LE can cope fine with UTF-8, but ANSI can't cope with UTF-16LE 03:25:12 The whole Unicode thing is a mess :-( 03:25:19 All the important apps in the suite already dropped Win9x anyway. FF, TB, OO, SB (with 1.0 anyway), Pidgin. 03:25:23 LE, BE, WE, 8, 16, 251476 03:25:24 ... 03:25:44 Yeppity. People on 98 will have to admit they're behind the times. 03:25:50 I think I may do a "Legacy Suite" build for Win9x with the old apps in it for people who REALLY want it. 03:26:19 It'd be a nice thing to do. So long as it's not too hard. 03:27:03 Nah. Just drop in the old versions to my build system. Not a huge deal. Could even do an ultimate version of it, too (wouldn't support upgrades of the apps) with all the old Win9x supporting apps before we do the full-scale app upgrade. 03:27:05 "Note: this will not work on Windows 3.11 or earlier. There is no edition of the PortableApps.com Suite for those platforms." ;-) 03:27:11 Heh 03:27:16 It's nice you're still doing all that, but there really has to be a point where you just say "That's 10+ years old. Upgrade already." 03:27:41 I reckon usage of 98 is now finally dropping off very quickly. 03:27:47 Yeah. This would be the last hurrah for it. There are a lot of Win9x machines out there in developing countries. South America. Places like that. 03:28:01 Win2K is our new baseline even though it's well less than 1% 03:28:02 Hmm, true. 03:28:17 98 was still /fairly/ (unreasonably) popular until two or three years ago, in the last couple of years I reckon it's dropped off sharply. 03:28:41 My old school has had no 98 machines for a bit under 2 years. 03:29:05 The lab where I work already has Windows 7. 03:29:23 my college is switching sometime this summer 03:29:29 well, on eof them 03:29:32 The main reason supporting 2000 rather than XP as the baseline is a good idea is because there's practically nothing to do to do it. 03:29:54 Exactly 03:29:56 the other is so stupid until last week they had ie6. They finally updated firefox to 3.5.2 dipsticks 03:30:00 Only a few apps don't support XP 03:30:14 all instructor machines that can get win7 get it 03:30:14 And generally that's just because they've done it badly. 03:30:19 Alright... back in a bit. Gonna unwind before bed with a little Mass Effect 2 :-) 03:30:27 *** JohnTHaller is now known as JohnTHaller|ME2 03:30:31 Some game? 03:31:00 Yeah, it's a game. 03:32:23 Hmm... where did I put my docs build script? 03:32:59 This USB disk..? That USB disk..? 03:33:19 lol 03:33:26 I seem to have lost it :-/ 03:34:07 No matter, no matter... easy to reconstruct. Just a matter of PYTHONPATH. 03:34:54 I have a question regarding registry keys I'm allowed to leave behind. 03:35:32 HKU\S-1-5-21-4085009182-405019399-1823126418-1001\Software\Microsoft\DirectInput\MostRecentApplication\Name: "BFCLIENT.EXE" For example. Does that have to be backed up? I figure MostRecentApplication is something that Windows itself creates? 03:36:02 That's fine, you can leave it. 03:36:29 And remember HKU\S-* is HKCU 03:36:36 Yeah. 03:36:44 Anything in the DirectInput key should be fine to leave. 03:36:56 This shouldn't be as difficult as it first seemed after all. 03:37:40 HKU\S-1-5-21-4085009182-405019399-1823126418-1001_Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\489\Shell\{5C4F28B5-F869-4E84-8E60-F11DB97C5CC7}\FFlags: 0x41200001 03:37:53 There are a lot of keys in Bags. What's that all about? 03:38:05 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:38:16 That is a weird key name. 03:38:42 Take a look in regedit at HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags to see if it's there. 03:38:55 It could also be HKCR or HKCR\Local Settings. 03:39:04 I don't recognise that hive name or the Local Settings stuff at all. 03:39:21 *** OliverK|Test is now known as OliverK 03:40:18 Bags and BagMRU are there (that's another one from the Regshot). 03:40:24 yup, i have it to 03:40:27 Which location? 03:40:28 on server 2003 03:40:30 HKCU * 03:40:37 hkcu 03:40:43 I'll check the other. 03:41:01 Don't think it should be there 03:41:15 ChrisMorgan: its here 03:41:22 In HKCR? 03:41:24 this is a fairly fresh install of windows server 2003 03:41:27 hkcu 03:41:33 Yeah, I'd expect it there. 03:41:42 Just the _Classes\Local Settings bit I don't understand 03:42:01 Not sure what the Bags are, just searching... 03:42:21 there's nothing in hkey_classes_root 03:42:29 which is what i assume you are talking about 03:42:31 Yeah. 03:42:47 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813711 seems to indicate it's folder view customisations. 03:44:01 You know what. Looking through the rest of these, I don't think Blood Frontier actually uses the registry for anything. There are a LOT of keys added or modified, but they seem like things Windows created itself. 03:44:04 In which case I think you should be allowed to leave it 03:44:17 Not terribly surprising. 03:44:24 Most registry clutter is Windows' 03:44:46 That just saved me a lot of work. 03:44:49 most that you should see and care about is hkcu\software\whatever 03:45:39 The only thing in that is the install directory. 03:46:48 If I could be bothered I'd go through Regshot and add in an "Ignore clutter" checkbox with lots of known "pointless" values and files to ignore. 03:47:23 Shouldn't be too much to add. 03:47:39 Just maintaining the black list. 03:48:09 Yep. I'm just too lazy to work out how to do it and fork regshot and all that. 03:48:18 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|test 03:48:32 *** OliverK|test is now known as OliverK 03:49:14 I'd do it if I didn't already have a load of projects on my hands. 03:55:00 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 04:06:32 ChrisMorgan, do you know anything about the unicode fork of Regshot? Particularly, have they released the source? 04:06:47 That Russian project? 04:08:18 Yeah. 04:08:33 I've looked briefly at it but not tried it or anything like that. 04:08:50 *** JohnTHaller|ME2 is now known as JohnTHaller 04:08:51 ok back 04:08:57 Wb. 04:09:56 Yes, Mass Effect 2 is an Xbox 360 game. Solid SciFi epic. Semi-RPGish and FPSish. 04:12:15 I'm making myself a make release script now. 04:15:14 cool 04:19:48 You know, I think I will take a look at Regshot's code. 04:22:50 * ChrisMorgan takes the plunge and runs his build script 04:23:42 ....? 04:23:58 The documentation built, then it stopped for no apparent reason. 04:25:30 In executing make_release.bat it gets to the end of Manual\make.bat and stops. Anyone got any idea why? 04:25:42 No, it's not got exit or anything like that. 04:31:05 *** JacobMastel has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:31:48 *** pa_9096 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04:32:19 OK, all seems to be working now, now to see what it's generated. 04:32:25 ChrisMorgan: it would help to see the bat file :p 04:32:47 Maybe if I'd used start. 04:32:58 I ended up just cutting the bit of code I needed out into the first batch file. 04:37:43 Oh dear... Unicode NSIS Portable is today failing to find its RealProgress plug-in..? 04:40:23 Reinstalling Unicode NSIS Portable to see if that does anything. 04:42:10 *WAH!* 04:42:16 What has changed!? 04:42:44 Ouch 04:43:22 For some reason it's not detecting its own plug-ins directory. 04:43:26 Or not all of it. 04:44:08 This line looks wrong: `Processing plugin dlls: "D:\PortableApps\NSISPortable\App\NSIS\Plugins\*.dll"` 04:44:12 That should be UnicodeNSISPortable 04:44:28 Somehow, I don't know how, it's getting itself (UnicodeNSISPortable) muddled with NSISPortable 04:44:36 Argh 04:44:39 Env vars? 04:44:46 Reboot? 04:44:47 That is what I propose to work out. 04:46:50 And we come to another thing I don't like about (Unicode or not) NSIS Portable: nsisconf.nsh should NOT, NOT, NOT go in Data and be moved to App. A simple file should be created in App\NSIS which !includes ..\..\Data\settings\nsisconf.nsh. 04:47:16 Fix it :-) 04:47:17 ChrisMorgan: then complain in the forums 04:47:23 gringoloco isn't here :p 04:47:40 It's an issue in NSIS Portable itself which is why it's carried through to NSISu P 04:47:49 heh 04:47:51 I know. But add it in if you want to. 04:48:01 it took to long for nsisportable itself to be released 04:48:08 it what we've got 04:48:13 It's easy to fix, and much simpler, AND it makes it so you can use makensis directly without potentially losing any functionality. 04:48:18 quit 04:48:21 just quit 04:48:28 yeah, its a easy simple fix 04:48:37 you aren't the dev 04:48:44 so, either become the dev, or shutup 04:48:53 its not something i really want to hear about 04:48:58 how terrible something is 04:49:03 Um, Oliver? What's up 04:49:10 plenty 04:49:16 but i'm not going into it :) 04:49:19 i'm evil 04:49:21 muhahaha 04:49:53 ChrisMorgan: Feel free to fix it locally. Post a patch to the NSIS Unicode thread in the forum. And we'll include it in the official release. 04:50:03 sounds like a excellent idea 04:50:07 i like that 04:50:19 its getting something done, instead of complaining about it 04:50:31 Regardless of the dev, I have final say on the release :-) And if chris has a way to improve it without busting anything, we do it. 04:50:42 the dev has left i believe 04:50:44 :) 04:50:50 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 04:51:09 Zach is still around... just not on IRC at this moment. 04:51:16 thibaeu? 04:51:18 or hudock 04:51:26 i can't remember which zach it was :p 04:51:27 thibeau 04:51:30 k 04:51:38 hudock worked on it previously 04:51:39 Huddock did it originally then Thibeau took it over 04:51:49 Yeah. In the SourceForge awards, I thanked 04:51:55 "the zacks" in my speech 04:51:59 hehe 04:52:01 i watched it 04:52:08 was suprised at how young you were 04:52:11 not sure why ;) 04:52:25 I'm not THAT young. I do look younger than I am, though. 04:52:27 ${NSISDIR} is completely screwed up. 04:52:35 :-( 04:52:44 JohnTHaller: i'm pegging late twenties? 04:52:44 ChrisMorgan: How? 04:52:49 Try 36. 04:52:51 wow 04:52:54 :) 04:53:06 i guess that's a compliment then, huh? 04:53:08 It's going to D:\PortableApps\NSISPortable\App\NSIS rather than D:\PortableApps\UnicodeNSISPortable\App\NSIS somehow 04:53:09 Like I said, most people think I'm 5-10 years younger than I actually am. Sometimes I act it :-D 04:53:19 I have no idea why it's doing it or how. 04:53:28 In NSISu? 04:53:32 Yep 04:53:43 Baaaad baaaaaad whatever-it-is. 04:54:44 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\NSIS? 04:54:53 Nothing there. 04:55:00 I have no idea where it's getting it from. 04:59:27 I'm utterly stuck as to where it's got it from. 04:59:44 I haven't run NSIS Portable at all on this machine, only NSISuP. 04:59:55 The string NSISPortable does not appear in ANY NSIS files other than appinfo.ini and UnicodeNSISPortableSettings.ini 05:00:01 out of curiosity 05:00:07 under wine 05:00:10 or your vm? 05:00:16 Windows XP 05:00:21 At Uni 05:00:22 k 05:00:29 Clean machine as far as NSIS is concerned 05:00:42 Cleaned on every boot 05:00:51 deepfreeze ftw 05:01:11 They do it here with some network booting thingy 05:01:23 HKLM\Software\NSIS? 05:01:49 - 05:01:55 Wait, do you have a working directory on your shortcut to it? 05:02:13 Shortcut? I'm executing it through a batch script 05:02:26 Where is the batch script and what directory is it in when running? 05:02:32 Other\Source\Manual 05:02:52 try CDing to the makensis directory before running it in the batch file 05:03:11 The machine just seems to be going completely wonky somehow. 05:03:18 Anyway, I need to go home now. 05:03:18 did you reboot yet? 05:03:24 No 05:03:33 Dats why. Always try a reboot with Windows :-) 05:03:36 Takes too long... 05:03:55 alright. bedtime. gnight all 05:04:13 Got to go home via the shops to get a spare bike tube... I came to Uni today on the bus due to a flat tyre yesterday afternoon :-( 05:04:21 Which I didn't get time to fix :-( 05:05:02 No fun 05:05:16 Everything's getting muddled on this machine at the moment... batch files terminating when I don't think they should be, things locking up a bit... I'll try again tomorrow. 05:05:29 Yeah, skip it for now 05:05:56 Sorry, it means you're not getting PAL2b2 today. 05:06:26 Aw, gimme gimme 05:06:34 Tough :D ;-) 05:06:44 Sorry about it. Blame the NSIS developers for it ;-) 05:06:56 Or your XP box, which is apparently a mess 05:06:59 I am utterly bamboozled by it :-) 05:07:10 I dunno. It does seem to be behaving a bit weird. 05:07:19 you gonna have time for b2 tomorrow? Just trying to plan releases following it 05:07:55 I hope so. I've got 6 hours of labs and tutes but may be able to squeeze it in before (and during the lab... they never have 2 hours of work for me, more like 20-25 minutes) 05:08:06 Ok, cool 05:08:08 Not certain though. 05:08:21 If I can help, lemme know 05:08:30 Anyway, tip is ready for it, it's just a matter of building it all. 05:08:58 If it's definitely ready, I can try my hand on it. If you trust my meager Mercurial skillz 05:08:59 So if you want you could get NSISu and hg tip out and compile GeneratorWizard.nsi then run it to generate the launcher executable. 05:09:16 If you've already got a repo cloned, "hg pull" then "hg up" 05:09:22 Or equivalent in TortoiseHg 05:09:44 The only thing which may change is the build script unless I get more bug reports. 05:10:08 Bye 05:10:10 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 05:10:35 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:22:19 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 05:33:25 *** OliverK is now known as maien 05:33:35 *** maien is now known as OliverK 06:05:50 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 10:04:37 *** juanito24 (~bc2e9bd4@gateway/web/freenode/x-iakdnttiarmgqrzj) has joined #portableapps 10:13:32 *** juanito24 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10:39:13 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 10:45:58 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 10:49:08 *** Guest9217 is now known as sar3th 10:49:10 *** sar3th has quit (Changing host) 10:49:10 *** sar3th (sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 10:49:12 sar3th is credit to team! 10:50:28 sorry, i had trouble with my znc appearently; it's fixed now 10:52:52 *** Space (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 10:54:55 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... 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