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00:17:04 <vf2nsr> evening Chris
00:17:11 <ChrisMorgan> Morning
00:17:17 <vf2nsr> ;)
00:17:25 <vf2nsr> been waiting for you lol
00:17:28 <ZachThibeau> howdy ChrisMorgan
00:17:33 <ChrisMorgan> Uh oh
00:17:43 <ChrisMorgan> I'm in a lab class!  I'm busy submitting an assignment!
00:17:46 <ChrisMorgan> Leave me alone! ;-)
00:17:56 <ZachThibeau> lol
00:17:57 <vf2nsr> remewber I discussed with you using launcher for a java app?
00:18:05 <ChrisMorgan> Sure
00:18:05 <ZachThibeau> shouldn't be in irc while in class :P
00:18:20 <ChrisMorgan> ZachThibeau: oh come on, it's Uni.
00:18:24 <vf2nsr> ok I been working at it all day to no avail
00:18:40 <vf2nsr> first  should the file be called Launcher oor the name of the app?
00:19:08 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr, you might find GanttProject or Sweet Home 3D useful; they're CPALT apps but the idea's the same, just a few syntax changes
00:19:42 <vf2nsr> so look at their launchers?
00:19:48 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah
00:19:56 <vf2nsr> ok will do tyvm
00:20:06 <ChrisMorgan> They don't use -jar, they use a full classpath, but the gist of it is the same
00:20:26 <vf2nsr> okies  so that instead of the pa launcher?
00:20:48 <ChrisMorgan> CPALT5 was what came just before PAL
00:20:52 <vf2nsr> cause I got everythin but the ini figured
00:21:05 <vf2nsr> that is what is causing me headaches
00:21:34 <ChrisMorgan> Their INI files should help you if you're stuck
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00:22:12 <vf2nsr> ok thanks will go search them up  appreaciate help  I did get teh permission from the program to toy with it  so I good ty again
00:22:26 <ChrisMorgan> For starters though in [Activate] you should have Java=require and in  [Launch] you should have ProgramExecutable=javaw.exe, then it's just command line arguments
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00:45:21 <ChrisMorgan> Eek.  Unicode NSIS Portable is /still/ somehow detecting NSIS Portable and messing up its NSISDIR constant.
00:47:48 <ChrisMorgan> WAH!!!
00:47:52 <ChrisMorgan> It's breaking everything.
00:48:47 <ChrisMorgan> It compiles PortableApps.comLauncherGenerator.exe which just hangs, guzzling all the CPU.
00:49:02 <ChrisMorgan> It's got A/U plugins all muddled up :-(
00:50:16 <ChrisMorgan> Great.  I rename NSISPortable and what do I get?  `Error: opening stub "D:\PortableApps\NSISPortable\App\NSIS\Stubs\zlib"
00:50:16 <ChrisMorgan> ` `Error initalizing CEXEBuild: error setting default stub`
00:50:27 <ChrisMorgan> So it really was just muddling everything up together.
00:52:37 <ChrisMorgan> I think I begin to get an inkling of what is happening.
00:53:36 <ChrisMorgan> A doskey macro for "makensis" seems to manage to wreck it by convincing it that it should look there.
00:53:53 <ChrisMorgan> So when I run it from the platform it works fine, but from my nice Command Prompt Portable it breaks utterly.
00:54:03 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I'll turn that into makensisa and makensisu
00:55:16 <ChrisMorgan> *sigh* working now
00:57:34 <ChrisMorgan> That is nevertheless /really/ weird and buggy behaviour.
00:58:51 <ChrisMorgan> Now to try making a release again.
01:14:33 <ChrisMorgan> Weird.  It still doesn't seem to be working in Command Prompt Portable.
01:18:55 <ChrisMorgan> OK, I think I'm now running make_release.bat for the last time for the PortableApps.com Launcher 2.0 Beta 2.  I sure hope so.
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01:30:48 <ChrisMorgan> If you want PAL2b2 while I'm creating the forum topic, http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.comLauncher_2.0_Beta_2.paf.exe
01:32:45 <ChrisMorgan> Hey!?  I didn't realise WinZip could handle 7-Zip archives now...
01:45:35 <ChrisMorgan> RELEASE: PortableApps.com Launcher 2.0 Beta 2: http://portableapps.com/node/23109
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01:55:28 <JohnTHaller> hola all
01:55:34 <ChrisMorgan> Hey ho :-0
01:55:35 <ChrisMorgan> )
01:59:10 <ChrisMorgan> I've got to go now, end of my lab class (in which I did just about nothing) so I'm off to four hours of tutes so I won't be on till tonight at home, if then.
01:59:43 <JohnTHaller> ok
02:01:32 <ChrisMorgan> Here's (most of) my TODO list for PAL: http://portableapps.com/node/23110
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03:15:53 <Scriptdaemon> Boo, Chris isn't here.
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03:24:56 <Scriptdaemon> JohnTHaller, I'm trying to figure out the new language switching in PA.c Launcher Beta 2. Would you be able to help me?
03:25:29 <JohnTHaller> Nope, I haven't touched it yet.  You need to read the docs.
03:25:50 <JohnTHaller> Only documentation is help.html included with the app.  Online manual is not yet updated.
03:26:11 <Scriptdaemon> I know. It needs improvement on helpfulness. >.>
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03:45:51 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan!
03:45:56 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Scriptdaemon
03:46:13 <Scriptdaemon> So, little help on the new language switching if you don't mind?
03:46:14 <ChrisMorgan> Only here for 10 minutes, just seeing if anything's happening before going to my next tutorial
03:46:18 <ChrisMorgan> Sure
03:46:21 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
03:46:34 <Scriptdaemon> It can wait then. Not like Revo Uninstaller works now anyway.
03:46:59 <OliverK|Away> Scriptdaemon: what's up?
03:47:01 <ChrisMorgan> Works?
03:47:10 <Scriptdaemon> Well, quickly. What am I setting the variables in LanguageSettings to? The names of the language files?
03:47:12 <ChrisMorgan> Do ask though, I have 10 minutes
03:47:16 <Scriptdaemon> Not like*
03:47:30 <ChrisMorgan> Is RU working or not?
03:47:36 <OliverK|Away> well, what does the setting look like before you modify it?
03:47:38 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, it's for its languages eh?
03:47:42 <Scriptdaemon> LanguageStrings*
03:47:49 <ChrisMorgan> Good, I was about to ask
03:48:13 <ChrisMorgan> [Base's value after environment variable parsing]=[what it maps to]
03:48:18 <Scriptdaemon> I said no, in a way that I'm in no hurry because it doesn't work right now anyway. =P
03:48:28 <OliverK|Away> Scriptdaemon: i get you
03:48:51 <OliverK|Away> this is PAL, isn't it?
03:49:10 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
03:49:15 <OliverK|Away> ferget me then
03:49:15 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm. Example? Like, one of the language files in english.ini. Or do I not actually use the names of the files?
03:49:46 <ChrisMorgan> Something like this: if you're basing it on the glibc value, Base=%PortableApps.comLocaleglibc%
03:50:09 <ChrisMorgan> However, en_US needs to be turned into en and ru needs to be turned into ru_RU.
03:50:13 <ChrisMorgan> So in LanguageStrings:
03:50:16 <ChrisMorgan> en_US=en
03:50:18 <ChrisMorgan> ru=ru_RU
03:51:26 <Scriptdaemon> The change from en_US to en is according to what?
03:51:40 <ChrisMorgan> The way it works is like this:
03:51:55 <ChrisMorgan> It expands environment variables in Base and looks up that key in [LanguageStrings]
03:52:29 <ChrisMorgan> If it is found, it uses that, otherwise it uses [Language]:Default if it's set (has environment variable expansion), or leaves it as it is in Base
03:52:52 <ChrisMorgan> Then if you use the file exists check, and the file does not exist, it use the DefaultIfNotExists value (with environment variable expansion).
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03:53:38 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm, I'll work with it, but maybe I'm not seeing from your explanation how it finds the file.
03:53:58 <ChrisMorgan> What's your situation?  Is it in what you emailed me?
03:54:21 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah, nothing has changed except the launcher .exe.
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03:55:21 <ChrisMorgan> So you could have CheckIfExists=%PAL:AppDir%\RevoUninstaller\lang\%PAL:LanguageCustom%.ini
03:55:53 <ChrisMorgan> And you'd probably Base it on %PortableApps.comLocaleWinName%
03:56:03 <ChrisMorgan> Then have lines like LANG_ENGLISH=english
03:57:41 <ChrisMorgan> I /think/ you should be OK to use Base=%PortableApps.comLocaleWinName:~5% and then drop the LANG_ bit (and ones like ENGLISH then wouldn't need a value to override it) but I need to test that in PAL to make sure it does work there as well as in the command line.
03:58:04 <Scriptdaemon> That's perfect, thanks.
03:58:17 <ZachThibeau> sorry for me going in and out, testing x64 build of PChat
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03:58:42 <ChrisMorgan> And then you'd have lines like CROATIAN=hrvatski (or if the :~5 doesn't work then LANG_CROATIAN=hrvatski)
03:58:43 <Scriptdaemon> There was something else I was going to mention, but a student in the lab distracted me. You probably answered it anyway.
03:59:38 <ChrisMorgan> Feel free to mention it, I'll see it in the channel log tonight or whenever I look, bye
03:59:49 <Scriptdaemon> Have fun.
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04:00:29 <Scriptdaemon> How's it coming, ZachThibeau?
04:00:38 <ZachThibeau> ok :) I think it's ready :)
04:00:44 <Scriptdaemon> Awesome.
04:00:57 <Scriptdaemon> I'll test on my laptop later tonight if you want.
04:01:57 <ZachThibeau> well I'm not ready yet for a public test, first thing I do when I say it's ready is to bash the snot out of it and then I let the public catch what I missed :P
04:02:16 <Scriptdaemon> I'm not the public!
04:04:37 <ZachThibeau> the only thing thats not working at all is mmx, I don't have the 64bit plugins yet, nor do I have ssl setup since it's having some issues atm for the 64bit build
04:05:02 <ZachThibeau> http://i42.tinypic.com/16bn9tv.png <- proof of 64bit readiness :B
04:05:35 <Scriptdaemon> Awesome.
04:06:48 <Scriptdaemon> Anyone know where I can find a list of all the language codes with LANG_ format?
04:07:30 <Scriptdaemon> Mainly for the weird languages like the two different Norwegian languages, etc.
04:08:02 <vf2nsr> Anyone wanna tell me why I have been working on a launcher .ini file for 2 days and still can't launch my .jar file?
04:08:12 <vf2nsr> lol
04:10:54 <ZachThibeau> well they way you worded that question tells me you can answer that yourself :P
04:11:21 <ZachThibeau> other than that, I wouldn't know since I don't use PAL
04:11:28 <ZachThibeau> I rather code custom launchers
04:11:36 <vf2nsr> Not really I have tried every which way to get it to launch  obviously I am not calling something right
04:11:57 <vf2nsr> ok ty anyway
04:12:04 <vf2nsr> back to trial and error
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04:50:12 <ZachThibeau> PChat 1.0.3 64bit edition now released as an alpha, please test http://pchat-irc.com/
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06:16:09 <vf2nsr> in writing an ini file  what character do I put in front of a line to make it not read  as in say a comment?
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09:25:22 <Gringoloco> Hi, there is SPAM, by jake8
09:25:23 <ChrisMorgan> Hey Gringoloco :-)
09:25:39 <Gringoloco> http://portableapps.com/node/8270#comment-145885
09:25:42 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, just getting to that.
09:25:44 <ChrisMorgan> More than one.
09:25:48 <Gringoloco> 2
09:26:20 <Gringoloco> Look in his profile, only spam, member 3 hours
09:27:23 <ChrisMorgan> None
09:28:21 <Gringoloco> Odd time for you to be on chat ? Isn't it ?
09:30:37 <ChrisMorgan> You missed the "Outlook Portable" spam.
09:30:40 <ChrisMorgan> No
09:30:42 <ChrisMorgan> 8:30 PM
09:32:49 <ChrisMorgan> I came across a /really/ weird problem with Unicode NSIS Portable running it from my set up Command Prompt Portable..
09:33:07 <ChrisMorgan> It was /somehow/, I don't know how, getting its ${NSISDIR} muddled with NSIS Portable.
09:33:22 <Gringoloco> I read about it...
09:34:14 <Gringoloco> Could it be cause I change the folder name from NSIS\Unicode\ to just NSIS\ ?
09:34:41 <ChrisMorgan> No, it's getting the full path muddled: D:\PortableApps\NSISPortable\App\NSIS rather than D:\PortableApps\UnicodeNSISPortable\App\NSIS.
09:35:16 <ChrisMorgan> And yet I removed all mentions of nsis from my doskey macros file, and there was nothing in the batch file in path or anything like that.  I admit myself utterly bamboozled.
09:35:45 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, it's time for me to try to work out for Scriptdaemon what the problem with RunAsAdmin is.
09:36:16 <Gringoloco> You mean the ${NSISDIR} define , in Unicode NSIS ?
09:36:31 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, it's losing the Unicode in UnicodeNSISPortable.
09:37:02 <Gringoloco> I'll check it out later...
09:37:04 <ChrisMorgan> But it's getting the whole lot muddled.  So it's invoking the Unicode makensis,exe, but basing it on the stubs in NSISPortable etc.
09:37:27 <Gringoloco> Do you have any issues downloading from MediaFire ?
09:37:29 <ChrisMorgan> Probably not worth it; I doubt there's anything you can do about it.
09:37:34 <Gringoloco> John says he does ???
09:37:45 <ChrisMorgan> No, but I wish it wasn't there.  The ads are /really/ annoying.
09:38:10 <ChrisMorgan> It almost makes me work up the energy to create an FTP account for you on my server.
09:39:02 <ChrisMorgan> Also I'd like to request that in the next version you change the way that nsisconf.nsh is used: rather than moving, create nsisconf.nsh in App\NSIS with this line: !include "${NSISDIR}\..\..\Data\settings\nsisconf.nsh"
09:39:27 <ChrisMorgan> So, Revo Uninstaller Portable works fine in Wine; the running as admin stuff gets told it's already admin and so it continues.
09:39:29 <Gringoloco> Feel free to host it somewhere else, or maybe I could see I could get a sourceforge acount ! I'm just having real issues uploading big packs like that ....
09:39:45 <ChrisMorgan> Would FTP be useful?
09:39:55 <ChrisMorgan> I could try setting up an account for you on my server if you liked.
09:40:08 <ChrisMorgan> Time to boot up my Server 2003 VM.
09:40:42 <Gringoloco> It's my internet conection, anything bigger then 1MB upload is a real hassle....but I could go to internet cafe !
09:41:54 <Gringoloco> Sometimes it's better than other times, at the moment I even have problems just browsing the forum!
09:42:25 <ChrisMorgan> At 28.8 Kbps I found the command line FTP tool great, far better than FileZilla or any other FTP tool I tried.
09:44:18 <Gringoloco> I've got one of those usb wireless sticks, makeing use of the mobile phone network. It's great cause I don't have the option to get a normal connection, but it's not really even the speed, it's just VERY unstable !
09:46:02 <ChrisMorgan> When we got shaped to 28.8 Kbps the connection became very dodgy.  Once you had more than one connection at a time it'd drop out horribly often.
09:46:56 <Gringoloco> As well, Idon't have experience with FTP, could I just get it uploaded to SourceForge,
09:47:14 <ChrisMorgan> HTTP uploads tend to be far less reliable than FTP uploads.
09:47:58 <ChrisMorgan> And the SourceForge web file upload system is very bad.  Around half the time when I've finished uploading a file it just sits there and never recovers, and the file just never ends up anywhere.
09:48:24 <ChrisMorgan> Do you want to try having an FTP account for gringoloco.portableapps.chrismorgan.info?
09:48:24 <Gringoloco> Ok, how would I use FTP ?
09:48:57 <ChrisMorgan> FileZilla is the easiest way.
09:49:04 <ChrisMorgan> It's pretty intuitive
09:49:09 <Gringoloco> Ok, but heading of to the dentist at the moment !
09:49:55 <ChrisMorgan> OK, do you want me to email you details so you can try it?
09:50:01 <ChrisMorgan> I've got your email address
09:50:48 <Gringoloco> Ok, but how did you get my email ????
09:54:31 <ChrisMorgan> As a website administrator I can view things like that when I need to (I got it for the commit ownership for the PAL translation).
09:54:45 <Gringoloco> Yes, send me details, I really have to go now,
09:55:07 <ChrisMorgan> Bye
09:56:01 <Gringoloco> bye, and thanx
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10:39:09 <ChrisMorgan> Revo Uninstaller is working fine on Windows Server 2003, admin.
10:44:04 * ChrisMorgan enables the guest account and logs in as it
10:45:38 <ChrisMorgan> "ERROR: you are not an administrator"... nothing happened in PAL at all.
10:47:23 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm, not doing anything at all.  This needs investigating.
10:51:16 <ChrisMorgan> Found it.  $LauncherFile wasn't yet set so it was trying to read from no file.
10:56:07 <ChrisMorgan> Unable to elevate, Windows logon service unavailable...? :-(
11:04:02 <ChrisMorgan> Keeping on getting it.  Wonder whether it works on a non-2003 OS.
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13:04:32 <sar3th> hello
13:04:38 <Rapscallion> hey
13:06:09 <sar3th> anything going on today?
13:06:27 <Rapscallion> nothing that exciting...
13:06:53 <Rapscallion> unless beta 5 comes out :-)
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13:35:15 <sar3th> hello JohnTHaller
13:35:19 <JohnTHaller> hi
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14:13:34 <sar3th> somehow, scons fails for me :(
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17:07:12 <ZachThibeau> well then I think that issue is fixed
17:12:29 <ZachThibeau> I found a possible reason why xtray doesn't use it's saved settings properly
17:13:28 <ZachThibeau> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?p=11275&sid=2cee9ca144e57489b5228702c2fcefda (mind you zed is very much an ass in some of this) and this issue doesn't really affect portability since settings are still saved in the data settings folder, just xtray isn't reading them due to this issue
17:18:14 <ZachThibeau> on an upbeat note PChat now has a 64bit build out :)
17:23:07 <JohnTHaller> So xchat doesn't have the full info for unicode builds on windows either?
17:24:39 <ZachThibeau> well unofficial builds anyways
17:25:02 <ZachThibeau> according to that post zed forced utf8 into xchat
17:27:29 <ZachThibeau> but yet again doesn't provide the patch for other users
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17:30:03 <ZachThibeau> brb need to test some modifications I made to xtray
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17:30:53 <ZachThibeau> :( no change
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17:57:42 <SteveLamerton> Hello MaienM, ZachThibeau, all
17:59:42 <sar3th> hi SteveLamerton
17:59:50 <SteveLamerton> Hi sar3th
18:00:12 <sar3th> how are things SteveLamerton?
18:00:54 <ZachThibeau> howdy SteveLamerton
18:01:21 <SteveLamerton> Pretty good thanks sar3th, you?
18:01:46 <MaienM> hello SteveLamerton
18:02:12 <sar3th> okay so far SteveLamerton
18:02:18 <SteveLamerton> :)
18:02:36 <ZachThibeau> PChat now has a 64bit build :)
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18:22:25 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
18:22:43 <ZachThibeau> found a bug in my 64bit version related to right clicking urls >_<
18:32:02 <SteveLamerton> ZachThibeau: What do you compile with?
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18:33:09 <sar3th> SteveLamerton: mingw64
18:33:21 <SteveLamerton> Ok :)
18:33:42 <sar3th> looking for a compiler SteveLamerton? ;)
18:34:43 <SteveLamerton> Not at all, just interested, toucan compiles with both Visual Studio and MinGW
18:34:48 <sar3th> cool
18:35:04 <sar3th> that is a sign for a job well done :)
18:36:15 <SteveLamerton> Yes, they both show different issues sometimes too, like compiling under Windows and Linux :)
18:37:52 <ZachThibeau> SteveLamerton: sorry I was away and no sar3th not mingw64 this build was done with Visual Studio
18:38:24 <ZachThibeau> mingw w64 yes compiles PChat but doesn't want to run
18:39:24 <SteveLamerton> I know that feeling, mingw32 was a bit of a mnightmare for Toucan, still isn't perfect
18:39:30 <sar3th> whaat ZachThibeau :O
18:40:18 <ZachThibeau> sar3th: yeah Visual Studio compiles the 64bit release and it's fairly stable (other than that right click url thing) but 32bit compile with visual studio fails where it's successful on mingw32 >_<
18:40:48 <sar3th> that's /very/ strange ZachThibeau :/
18:41:08 <ZachThibeau> I know xD
18:44:31 <ZachThibeau> I also applied a patch finally where PChat now compiles with gtk 2.20 (ubuntu 10.04 default gtk)
18:48:30 <sar3th> nice
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19:16:12 <OliverK> howdy SteveLamerton
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19:16:39 <SteveLamerton> Hi OliverK|Away
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19:37:02 <vf2nsr> what is the variable string used to force something to load from the PA Drive?
19:37:13 <OliverK> ?
19:37:16 <OliverK> example
19:37:23 <OliverK> please
19:37:24 <vf2nsr> ProgramExecutable=PortableApps\Commonfiles\Java/bin\javaw.exe
19:37:44 <vf2nsr> I want this executable to load only from the PA Drive in the place I tell it to go
19:38:09 <OliverK> PAL?
19:38:30 <vf2nsr> yes
19:38:40 <OliverK> k
19:38:50 <OliverK> i don't know PAL, i don't plan on using it
19:38:52 <vf2nsr> Would I use PortableApss.com?
19:39:08 <OliverK> from the drive?
19:39:25 <OliverK> you're probaly looking for a drive name of some sort
19:39:30 <vf2nsr> ProgramExecutable=PortableApps.com:\PortableApps\Commonfiles\Java/bin\javaw.exe
19:39:55 <OliverK> like (for Geany) @Drive\foo\bar.exe
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19:40:10 <OliverK> hooray!
19:40:18 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005 is not Gizmokid2005|AFK!
19:40:21 <vf2nsr> Atually I gonna try that
19:40:33 <OliverK> try yours
19:40:40 <OliverK> the @Drive is local to one of my apps
19:40:49 <OliverK> i don't know how chris implemented it in his
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19:44:08 <vf2nsr> ok ty OliverK  ill keep plugging away at it
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20:39:42 * ZachThibeau thinks there be some network issue somewhere
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20:40:42 <JohnTHaller> my net was down for the last 5 hours
20:41:05 <ZachThibeau> ouch
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21:10:50 <Bensawsome> JohnTHaller who you have?
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21:15:24 <JohnTHaller> tim warner
21:15:28 <JohnTHaller> time even
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21:20:11 <pa_0784> anyone available to answer question RE: pidgin?
21:21:00 <JohnTHaller> pa_0784: what do you need?
21:21:58 <pa_0784> Last few updates I've been unable to connect to AIM and Yahoo. I have checked and double checked firewall... Im thinking the server information is wrong. What servers should I be using for login to AIM and Yahoo?
21:23:32 <OliverK> my yahoo is online via miranda
21:24:43 <JohnTHaller> The servers are unchanged but you may need to enable/disable Use clientLogin within advanced settings.  This has been happening with all pidgin installs lately.
21:25:41 <pa_0784> I've tried that... Doesn't help... Also, I believe I have messed up the server settings, I think I changed them several versions back... I guess I could just install a new version and see the defaults, but thought if someone knew quickly here I could ask before going to all that.
21:25:53 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0784: as JohnTHaller said, check the front page of http://pidgin.im for your AIM problems
21:26:08 <Gizmokid2005> by the sounds of that, just create new accounts for the corresponding services, and see if it fixes it.
21:26:16 <JohnTHaller> Server should be slogin.oscar.aol.com
21:26:21 <JohnTHaller> Port is 5190
21:26:33 <JohnTHaller> Check off use ssl (though may be blocked on some corp networks)
21:26:37 <JohnTHaller> uncheck use clientlogin
21:26:57 <JohnTHaller> make sure proxy is set for use global.  and make sure your global settings are right
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21:29:29 <pa_0784> Keeps reverting back to login.messaging.aol.com regardless of how I save it...
21:30:12 <JohnTHaller> I'd recommend just reinstalling then.  It's easier than you trying to backtrack all the changes you made while trying to fix it.
21:30:19 <Rapscallion> login.oscar.aol.com is an alias for login.messaging.aol.com
21:33:40 <pa_0784> Thanks
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