00:01:35 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 00:02:01 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 00:07:18 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 00:14:17 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 00:14:17 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 00:28:34 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@89.205.169.233) has joined #portableapps 00:29:24 Hello, there 00:29:28 Hey Gringoloco 00:29:47 Not entirely happy about your patch for ProcFunc. None of it feels right. 00:30:09 The W on the end should be the default in Unicode NSIS. Removing it doesn't seem right 00:30:20 It's an odd script, Wraithdu should have a look at it ! 00:30:29 I'm emailing him about it. 00:30:48 hello ChrisMorgan, Gringoloco 00:31:08 And &m isn't covered in the System plug-in documentation, but assuming it's an array of ANSI characters as m is that. So in NSIS it'd be using an array of WCHARs and in Unicode NSIS it'd be using ANSI CHARs? Doesn't seem at all right. 00:31:17 Good, I know it doesn't seem right, but it was the onlyway I got it to work 00:31:33 Yes ANSI, odd isn't it ! 00:31:59 But it is even as odd, that wraightdu's script is using w ??? 00:32:02 When integrating it I did think about forwards compatibility with Unicode NSIS and decided it should be fine. 00:32:26 Not really, it may need to cope with Unicode process names without going splurk. 00:33:47 This is why I said it's temporarily, Wraightdu should do it, as he wrote it ! 00:34:32 But at least the patch is better than nothing ! 00:34:39 I'm not sure about that. 00:34:52 I'm going to leave it off until Erik says something I think. 00:34:58 With a cave. 00:38:06 Now I want to see if this privilege escalation is working any better than it did on my Server 2003 VM: admin didn't need to elevate, as guest it reported the logon service wasn't running. 00:38:07 ChrisMorgan, in the examples you gave me the other day for language switching, is SUBLANG_ also supported? 00:38:15 SUBLANG_? 00:38:37 To differentiate traditional and simplified chinese, etc. 00:38:52 It's entirely dependant on the environment variable you use. 00:39:10 Compare the values with those in the PortableApps.com Platform locales. 00:39:20 K. 00:39:28 That'd be LANG_TRADCHINESE and LANG_SIMPCHINESE for WinName I think 00:39:34 Ah. 00:40:58 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:42:08 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 00:43:34 privilege escalation sounds like you are hacking some machine :/ 00:44:02 Oooh... here on XP it's seeming to work! 00:44:16 Popping up the "Run As" window :-) 00:44:21 Anyone know what the LANG_* name for Norwegian (Nynorsk) is? 00:44:32 Scriptdaemon, get the Platform and take a look at it 00:44:47 App\Locales\Norwegian.locale 00:44:54 LANG_NORWEGIAN in this case 00:44:59 That's the regular Norwegian. 00:45:06 There's more than one. 00:45:14 There's not in the Platform. 00:45:35 So then it would be supported if the app itself supports it? 00:45:49 wouldn't* 00:46:09 You wouldn't be able to switch to it automatically from the launcher. 00:46:20 Ah. 00:46:38 Alright then. 00:46:42 Scriptdaemon, you should try Revo Uninstaller Portable with hg tip, I think I've fixed your RunAsAdmin problem. 00:46:50 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 00:46:59 Incidentally, force is what you'll want. 00:47:27 If you run as other than admin, "ERROR" "You are not an Administrator!" 00:47:33 I got that on 2003 and XP. 00:47:41 Even with "try?" 00:47:57 Or are you still working on that? 00:48:12 Scriptdaemon: it tries to authenticate but if you say "no" then it runs as a normal user and Revo Uninstaller produces that error message. 00:48:36 RunAsAdmin seems to be working perfectly. Just Revo Uninstaller requires admin. 00:49:03 I could've sworn it loaded before for me. Oh well, awesome. 00:49:10 without admin* 00:49:16 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:49:26 2003 as Guest and XP as a normal user, it's not running past that error box. 00:50:52 Was it *because* I was using "try," or is there a fix in the launcher as well? 00:51:24 It was a matter of not having initialised the $LauncherFile variable yet so it was trying to read [Launch]:RunAsAdmin from the file "" 00:51:33 Ah. 00:51:48 Then once I'd fixed that I found I needed to read the app name earlier too, in .onInit rather than Init. 00:53:01 Glad being the only one needing RunAsAdmin so far has helped with the launcher. =P 00:53:09 :-) 00:54:53 That should do it. I believe I'm done with the language settings too. 00:55:05 Good :-) 00:55:43 Did you find out if %PortableApps.comLocaleWinName:~5% would work if used in the file? 00:56:01 Haven't tested it yet. 00:56:09 At 2.0 John says he's putting in a new variable anyway. 00:56:34 JohnTHaller: what will this new, sans-LANG_ variable be called? I could implement it quickly now if you've decided what to call it. 00:58:20 Implemented, now I just need a name for it. 00:59:55 Eek! What have I been doing PAL:(Documents|Pictures|Music|Videos)Dir for!? Why aren't I using the PortableApps.com* variable? 01:00:04 Backwards compatible change coming... 01:00:08 evil you! 01:00:26 I read from the write one and right to the rong one :-/ 01:01:50 I wonder if Revo Uninstaller Portable (their build) already uses upx... 01:02:05 I don't know. You can check it with UPX. 01:02:16 I'd probably need to ask for extra permission to do that if it's not, huh? 01:02:28 Just test the file with UPX and it'll tell you "Error: file is not compressed blah blah blah" 01:02:31 Since I only asked initially to bundle it. 01:02:32 Or "OK" 01:02:41 Ask for more permissions then. 01:02:52 You may as well test it first though. 01:03:08 Easiest way: try compressing it, if smaller it's better and so ask. 01:03:32 Yeah. Plus, I'll be able to give them an update. They didn't say whether they wanted to host it or not if it goes official, so I'll ask again about that. 01:03:47 It's looking good to me. 01:03:56 Once I've got /my/ bugs ironed out. 01:04:33 I need to fix the icons though (it has some extra formats in their >.>) but that's the only problem other than UPXing as far as I know. 01:04:37 there* 01:04:43 And you don't need ExtractIcon. 01:04:50 You have permission to redistribute it so it's OK. 01:05:11 Ah, k. 01:06:20 I'm going to start on Blood Frontier Portable after spring break. 01:06:36 ooh 01:06:39 freeware? 01:06:44 or opensource? 01:06:50 Nope. Open Source. :) 01:07:00 It's in beta though, but it was nice when I played with it 01:07:17 win 01:07:53 Honestly, I'd like to see more of the bigger open source games go official. I think it'd help PA.c a lot. 01:08:08 heh 01:08:12 probably 01:10:00 i will do tankbobs once we get it to work on windows :D 01:10:18 tankbobs? 01:11:46 Someone requested Space Invaders OpenGL in the request forum a little while ago that I wanted to do, but then I saw that it would occasionally need a particular file to be placed in the system folder. 01:12:00 What? 01:12:38 "If you experience an error message about msvcr70.dll please extract and put this file in windows/system32 for win 2000/XP or windows/system for win 98/ME." 01:13:07 Put it in the app directory, it should always work. 01:13:12 yeah 01:13:15 . . . . 01:13:23 silly space invaders :p 01:13:32 They should distribute it with their application. 01:13:33 they can invade space but not my computer! :p 01:13:39 It's a redistributable, they're allowed to. 01:13:53 maybe their host doesn't like it . . . 01:14:02 i know sf has special rules about that 01:14:03 Legally I believe it's fine. 01:14:07 Ah, good then. That's on my list now too. 01:14:08 I don't believe so. 01:14:22 We distribute it in at least a few of our packages. 01:14:30 yeah 01:14:32 So SourceForge had better not complain :P 01:14:38 sf has a special rule allowing it 01:14:43 i'm not stupid chris 01:14:50 Ah 01:15:01 its the only exception to requiring source 01:15:11 everything else you have to put the source up 01:17:03 do you even know what that file is? :P 01:18:03 Microsoft Visual C Runtime 7.0 (2003, I think) 01:19:34 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@adsl-99-32-64-169.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 01:19:38 yup 01:20:13 excid3|asus! 01:20:13 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 01:20:43 hey 01:26:39 *** excid3|asus1 (~Chris_Oli@adsl-99-152-36-115.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 01:27:46 Something good (or bad) about hg: you can commit a dozen revisions and no-one sees anything until... hg push: *whoosh* 01:28:34 *** excid3|asus has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01:30:13 JohnTHaller, are you there at all? 01:31:07 back 01:31:09 miss anything? 01:31:13 You said you were going to offer a version of PortableApps.comLocaleWinName minus the first five characters; what will it be called? I want to put it in PAL now so it's useful already and ready for later, but make sure I get the right name. 01:33:08 LocaleName in the Locale files... so PortableApps.comLocaleName 01:33:16 Okey dokey. 01:33:21 That's what I'd put in :D 01:33:22 Debating upper, lower or mixed case (ala NSIS) at the moment 01:33:39 Aaand adjusted Revo Uninstaller's launcher .ini. 01:34:01 I'd say it doesn't tend to matter. File checks are case-insensitive, very few things are case sensitive. 01:34:08 Mixed case would be neater though. 01:34:22 Yeah, I kinda prefer mixed, myself 01:34:26 And dialects could be in capitals like PortugueseBR 01:34:36 PortugueseBR, SimpChinese, etc 01:34:42 Yep 01:34:55 We'll go by the way they are in Unicode NSIS for the ones we add. 01:35:11 My forwards-compatibility and PAP-free operation will do it upper case though. 01:35:17 Does this at all affect LanguageStrings? 01:35:28 Making mixed-case versions would require a big table which is pointless. 01:35:34 Yeah 01:36:38 Scriptdaemon, it just means that if you're using hg tip you can now use a Base of %PortableApps.comLocaleName% and you don't need to worry about the LANG_ at the start. 01:36:51 So there's no need to try %PortableApps.comLocaleWinName:~5% any more 01:36:58 No, I mean the case related stuff you're talking about. 01:37:11 Ah. There shouldn't be any need to change anything. 01:37:15 K. 01:37:53 *** kai_62656 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:41:19 *** dboki89 (~d5c6db41@gateway/web/freenode/x-oxwlbjarfsqdssrz) has joined #portableapps 01:41:30 Oh, btw. The file I mentioned earlier for Space Invader OpenGL, they actually link to Sourceforge to download it. So I don't know why they don't include it themselves. 01:41:46 What, MSVCR70.dll? 01:41:49 Yeah. 01:41:50 How utterly weird. 01:42:18 Is it just me or is there just more and more SPAM appearing recently? SPAM at: http://portableapps.com/node/23120 (check where the links lead to, and you'll see it's spam) 01:42:55 already deleted 01:42:55 dboki89, I never look at the OT forum and such posts don't appear in the tracker. 01:43:16 That's why I don't see such things. 01:43:39 OffTopic is kinda a wasteland. Spam will last longer there. there is no benefit to the spammer though as all links are NOFOLLOW. 01:43:50 Ok, Chris, I'm just saying... :) @JTH - that was fast! :) Keep up the good work guys :) 01:44:10 ... unless a user happens to choose to click on such a link. 01:44:41 I haven't clicked, but saw where they lead to when pointed with the mouse.. :) 01:45:00 Whereas I just look and see it's spam... 01:48:27 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:52:09 *** dboki89 is now known as dboki89|AFChat 01:52:22 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: restart time) 01:52:58 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 01:54:06 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:55:03 *** vf2nsr_ (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:55:10 OK, I think I /may/ have sorted out Geoff's issue with FilesMove not coping with ".files". I'll have to test it another time though as I've got to head off to a lecture (then a lab then home so see you Saturday or maybe not until next week) 01:55:35 vf2nsr, vf2nsr_: need help? 01:56:10 I just had my last final for the quarter today. :) 01:56:15 Well yes but am working on it just some PA Launcher issues 01:56:25 I was meaning with your nicks :P 01:56:44 ChrisMorgan: i can get that if needed 01:57:10 *** vf2nsr_ has parted #portableapps (None) 01:57:41 vf2nsr: you know about the ghost command right? 01:57:50 *** vf2nsr has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:58:07 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:58:24 vf2nsr: you know about ghosting your nick, right? 01:58:37 no whay wass that? 01:59:03 i'm assuming your first nick got disconnected some how and you reconnected with the second 01:59:12 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 01:59:15 if you ghost it, it'll disconnected the 'dead' connection 01:59:27 *** gluxon|DSi (~DSi@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:59:31 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:59:38 ah ok had no idea 01:59:42 i think its /msg nickserv ghost nick password 01:59:46 just want to be me :) 01:59:47 or something like that 02:00:03 yup, that's the command :) 02:00:03 You've got to have registered the nick before you can do it though 02:00:09 this is true 02:00:15 And the password is only needed if you're not logged in 02:00:17 Bye 02:00:23 You can just use /ghost too. 02:00:31 Scriptdaemon, in some clients, not most 02:00:35 Scriptdaemon: depending on teh client 02:00:40 see yah lat ChrisMorgan 02:00:42 so anyway having an issue with the portable flash not grabbing the vm correctly 02:00:43 later* 02:01:01 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 02:01:02 not sure what I am doing wrong 02:01:53 and if I try to manually start vm get error message 02:02:02 you mean java vm 02:02:18 correct 02:02:30 i don't use java apps 02:02:31 :p 02:02:38 and I don't use PAL. SHoulda asked chris 02:02:42 tell you what though 02:02:50 register in the forums and make a post on it 02:03:04 gues not many do? I picked up a blackjack card game in java have permission to pplay around with it 02:03:05 include the configuration ini and what you're trying to configure it for 02:03:25 portabalized it and it appears to work but doies not launch the jvm so graphics are askew 02:03:38 java i don't like from having to use it on blackboard with my college 02:04:12 and when I use the java portable launch feature for a .jar same results 02:04:31 *** gluxon|DSi has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02:04:44 again, make a post. I'm not sure I can help you 02:05:14 well actually have done so as a alpha/developmental release 02:05:33 but still picking away at it to try to get it resolved myself 02:05:43 it works great on local machine 02:05:51 just not on PA 02:06:42 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:06:45 perhaps I need to add a -classpath.....anyway thanks 02:07:07 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 02:07:08 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 02:08:59 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Client Quit) 02:09:22 Wow, that Space Invaders game is pretty cool. Shame that development on it has pretty much stopped. 02:10:16 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:10:42 i've been working a lot with the main tankbobs developer, and i'm eager to finally play it once ;) 02:11:03 sar3th is a susian, right? 02:11:03 can you imagine trying to compile it for 1 month but still not having played it? :/ 02:11:09 nope 02:12:06 it's very frustrating, once you think "it must work now", something else randomly appears and keeps it from working :/ 02:13:57 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 02:13:58 ... 02:19:00 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 02:19:50 *** res|away is now known as Res2216firestar 02:31:45 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:32:04 bbl need to reboot computer 02:32:06 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]) 02:32:09 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 02:32:10 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 02:37:11 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 02:55:49 *** dboki89|AFChat has quit (Quit: Page closed) 03:05:17 *** excid3|asus1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 03:06:56 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@adsl-99-152-36-115.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 03:07:33 back. sick, but made it to the gym for 5 minutes to continue the streak. 03:07:54 sick? 03:08:01 not good, al :p 03:08:18 nasty cold. shouldn't be at the gym. so just went a little to keep my streak up 03:08:28 hehe 03:08:38 .t utc 03:08:38 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:09:43 03:08:44 3 in the morning!? 03:08:53 Hey, it's worth keeping. Even though I feel nasty now. no 11pm here 03:16:41 4 am here :/ 03:16:49 bed time :p 03:16:51 JohnTHaller, go to bed? 03:17:00 Scriptdaemon: I was going to say that :p 03:17:01 soonish 03:17:10 i just couldn't figure out how to 03:17:17 i've already told him that recently 03:17:20 muhahaha 03:17:25 sudo go to bed? 03:17:37 zonk 03:17:41 Win. 03:17:46 *snore* *snore* *snore* 03:18:10 ah, if life was only that easy 03:18:54 look i'm sleep talking! 03:19:12 This ends your regularly scheduled randomness (as if :P) 03:19:42 You need sleep too. 03:19:48 hehe 03:19:52 nah, i'm always like tihs 03:19:56 .t OliverK 03:19:56 Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:21:01 CDT 03:19:58 :) 03:20:10 i woke up at like 9:30 03:20:16 i've only been up for 13 hours 03:21:14 .t 03:21:15 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:22:20 MEZ 03:21:15 >_> 03:21:22 *** excid3|asus has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 03:21:24 up since 10 am 03:21:42 sar3th: only had 8 hours of sleep 03:21:44 i think 03:21:54 its fuzzy 03:25:39 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 03:25:39 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:30:42 *** Res2216firestar is now known as res|away 04:12:31 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04:20:34 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@adsl-99-152-36-115.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 04:24:42 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 04:37:38 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 04:38:15 *** excid3|asus has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:40:39 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 05:01:38 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 05:01:38 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 05:02:13 *** Zarggg_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:06:56 ChrisMorgan: [21:00] vf2nsr: so anyway having an issue with the portable flash not grabbing the vm correctly 05:06:56 [21:00] OliverK|Away: later* 05:06:56 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05:06:56 [21:01] ChrisMorgan has disconnected: Quit: Quit messages are inane. 05:06:56 [21:01] vf2nsr: not sure what I am doing wrong 05:06:57 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05:06:57 [21:01] vf2nsr: and if I try to manually start vm get error message 05:06:58 [21:02] OliverK|Away: you mean java vm 05:06:58 [21:02] vf2nsr: correct 05:06:59 [21:02] OliverK|Away: i don't use java apps 05:06:59 [21:02] OliverK|Away: :p 05:07:00 [21:02] OliverK|Away: and I don't use PAL. SHoulda asked chris 05:07:00 [21:02] OliverK|Away: tell you what though 05:07:01 [21:02] OliverK|Away: register in the forums and make a post on it 05:07:01 [21:03] vf2nsr: gues not many do? I picked up a blackjack card game in java have permission to pplay around with it 05:07:02 [21:03] OliverK|Away: include the configuration ini and what you're trying to configure it for 05:07:02 [21:03] vf2nsr: portabalized it and it appears to work but doies not launch the jvm so graphics are askew 05:07:03 [21:03] OliverK|Away: java i don't like from having to use it on blackboard with my college 05:07:03 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05:07:04 [21:04] vf2nsr: and when I use the java portable launch feature for a .jar same results 05:07:04 [21:04] gluxon|DSi has disconnected: Ping timeout: 265 seconds 05:07:05 [21:04] OliverK|Away: again, make a post. I'm not sure I can help you 05:07:05 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05:07:06 [21:05] vf2nsr: well actually have done so as a alpha/developmental release 05:07:06 [21:05] vf2nsr: but still picking away at it to try to get it resolved myself 05:07:07 [21:05] vf2nsr: it works great on local machine 05:07:07 [21:05] vf2nsr: just not on PA 05:07:10 Eep... 05:07:15 sorry for the blast 05:07:29 I was just looking at the logs 05:07:29 vf2nsr has been coming in frequently asking about that 05:07:32 ah 05:07:33 sorry 05:09:07 My advice to him is to read the notes on Java at the bottom of help.html. They cover it fairly well. 05:09:21 heh 05:09:35 leave a .tell i guess 05:09:38 i'll forget 05:26:23 GizmoBot: tell vf2nsr to "read the notes on Java at the bottom of help.html." 05:26:56 .tell vf2nsr to "read the notes on Java at the bottom of help.html." 05:26:56 sar3th: I'll pass that on when vf2nsr is around. 05:27:00 thanks GizmoBot 05:27:00 You're Welcome sar3th 05:44:42 Anyone want to test my new Qt cache key cleanup section in PAL? 05:45:17 nope 05:45:21 i want to go to bed :p 05:45:24 night 05:45:27 Didn't think you would :P 05:45:30 hehe 05:45:33 Whether you were going to bed or not :-) 05:45:33 its 12:30 05:45:38 G'nite 05:45:43 i wanted to go to sleep 2 hours 05:45:45 ago 05:45:49 good enough excuse for me :p 05:45:54 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 05:46:06 qt cache cleanup? what's it do? 05:46:22 Cleans up the cache keys 05:46:43 e.g. to get rid of HKCU\Software\Trolltech\OrganizationDefaults\Qt Factory Cache 4.6\com.trolltech.Qt.QImageIOHandlerFactoryInterface:\X:\PortableApps\AppNamePortable\App\AppName\whatever 05:47:02 1=Qt Factory Cache 4.6\com.trolltech.Qt.QImageIOHandlerFactoryInterface: 05:47:34 That then prunes back that tree (junks the App directory and then deletes down to Trolltech if empty). 05:47:57 Just a slight modification of the code I whipped up some time ago 05:52:39 Example: http://portableapps.com/node/23107#comment-145948 05:56:00 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Opera Web Browser 10.51! 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I haven't used them, but most of them link back to PortableApps.com 15:56:24 so I'd say there shouldn't be any issues. 15:57:03 ok cool, thanks 15:57:09 :) ttyl 15:57:10 *** hsnopi has quit (Client Quit) 16:10:26 *** Scriptdaemon (~8bb60bc0@gateway/web/freenode/x-hetgakltwdrvnddc) has joined #portableapps 16:11:03 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Client Quit) 16:33:41 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.11.192) has joined #portableapps 17:04:29 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 17:08:07 *** Simeon (~Kontakt@dslb-094-216-011-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 17:13:41 *** Simeon has parted #portableapps (None) 17:24:13 I forget, do we use size or size on disk when listing the install size? 17:25:09 size i think 17:25:42 K. 17:30:54 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. 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If I get caught not doing it, i'll get assigned to finishing fixin gthe window I tore out 19:06:48 :) 19:12:11 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 19:12:50 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a83-132-129-116.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 19:13:25 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 19:28:13 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 19:28:46 hi twinkletoes 19:32:30 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.188.198) has joined #portableapps 19:34:27 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 19:39:31 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 19:39:40 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 19:51:53 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:54:09 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:01:47 *** pa_8170 (~61494098@gateway/web/freenode/x-alupytovjnpurvqy) has joined #portableapps 20:03:44 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 20:04:28 Since I upgraded to FF 3.6.2 FF alternates between locked up for 10 seconds, then jumps forward then locks up for 30 seconds... 20:05:05 I get many script not working notices but performance never gets any better 20:06:40 how old is the flash drive and are you running on usb 1.1 or usb 2.0? 20:07:17 about 6 months 20:07:26 k 20:07:33 standard brand or off name? 20:07:35 and how big 20:07:51 probably off name 20:07:54 k 20:08:05 its pretty good sized 20:08:05 you may need to get ahold of a decent stick 20:08:16 yeah, if they're big, the slow way down 20:08:25 cool, I had wondered about that 20:08:27 i prefer corsair 20:08:45 thanks, I'll look for one 20:08:46 there's some other tricks you cna do, should be on the firefox portable page 20:08:56 no prob. Kingstons are okay to 20:08:57 ok, great! 20:09:35 thanks this is almost aggrivating enough to drive me back to ie, gag! 20:09:48 indeed 20:10:06 *** pa_8170 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 20:12:23 *** sar3th|trouble has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.") 20:12:31 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 20:13:19 *** Guest86079 is now known as sar3th 20:13:20 *** sar3th has quit (Changing host) 20:13:20 *** sar3th (sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 20:13:22 sar3th is a dev who likes games by valve very much 20:23:38 *** sar3th has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 20:26:39 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.188.185) has joined #portableapps 20:26:40 *** Rapscallion has parted #portableapps (None) 21:10:17 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-39.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 21:13:31 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:17:41 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@94.157.157.130) has joined #portableapps 21:24:36 *** MaienM_ is now known as MaienM 21:28:09 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 21:30:47 *** Neoman (~Neoman@41.238.214.235) has joined #portableapps 21:36:36 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:37:09 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 21:37:10 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 21:47:40 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.188.185) has joined #portableapps 21:47:47 Well, that's a shame. 21:48:05 The "portable" build for Speccy isn't actually portable. 21:48:08 Stupid betas. 21:48:13 nope 21:48:16 i noticed that 21:48:21 hi there 21:48:30 how to create a new profile on FFP 21:48:31 ? 21:48:41 easy 21:48:54 go to X:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable 21:48:58 and rename the data folder 21:49:07 make a new data folder 21:49:14 *** sar3th (sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 21:49:14 sar3th is a dev who likes games by valve very much 21:49:15 and then run FireFoxPortable.xe 21:49:17 :) 21:49:28 wow, thanks OliverK|Away 21:49:34 Neoman: no prob 21:49:41 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 21:50:16 do you mind trying something? 21:50:28 http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/photos 21:50:33 please note away status :) 21:50:38 but maybe someone else can help 21:50:59 ok, it's not urgent 21:51:06 thanks again 21:59:08 hello Neoman, do you need anything? 21:59:14 *** Gringoloco1 (~Gringoloc@188.88.196.86) has joined #portableapps 21:59:25 yes please 21:59:31 http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/photos 21:59:43 What about it? 21:59:59 *** MaienM has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22:00:07 firefox loads all the pages the thumbs and the large version 22:00:35 opera loads only the thumbs and doesn't load the large one till i click on the thumbnail 22:01:04 that is true 22:01:11 at least the opera part 22:01:23 Firefox doesn't load the lerge version until clicked for me. 22:01:27 large* 22:01:38 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22:01:42 Scriptdaemon: are you sure? 22:01:50 I'm sure. 22:02:00 Neoman: i'm checking it in FF now as well 22:02:01 i just created a new profile like OliverK|Away said and it loads it all 22:02:50 ff with default settings 22:02:55 loads all the pictures 22:02:58 when FF loads all the photos, it takes more time loading many photos 22:03:12 sar3th: anyidea how to fix this? 22:03:22 So you're having the same problem then, sar3th? 22:03:37 i wouldn't call it problem 22:04:16 I'm on my work computer. Should be default settings, so this is odd. 22:05:22 FF doesn't load the large one until I click on it in FF either. 22:05:23 Scriptdaemon: do you have any addons installed? 22:05:48 omg, how are you doing it 22:05:50 I do not. 22:06:07 Neoman: it just works for me. 22:07:30 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 22:07:32 so .. can you figure out how? 22:07:37 it's just weird! 22:07:49 i created a new profile and i guess that 22:07:59 that's the default setting! 22:08:03 guide him to copy out bookmarks and stuff :) 22:08:14 that's why i had you rename the folder and not delete it :) 22:08:16 laters 22:08:26 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 22:08:28 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 22:09:01 i need to note, i was on a /fresh/ profile as well, no settings changed at all 22:09:30 Same as sar3th, as far as I know. 22:09:58 lol, thanks oliver 22:11:54 so it's a dead end for me? 22:13:16 probably, i don't really know 22:13:42 i'm not a ff exper 22:13:45 *expert 22:14:28 I'll try the firefox forums 22:14:33 Thanks guys 22:38:06 *** Spaceghost (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 22:45:37 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 23:04:22 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@162.sub-72-124-208.myvzw.com) has joined #portableapps 23:19:34 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 23:19:38 hola 23:30:04 hello JohnTHaller :) 23:30:10 how goes it? 23:30:43 fine, thanks 23:31:50 *** Simeon (~Itunes@dslb-092-074-085-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 23:31:56 hi all 23:32:03 hello Simeon 23:32:06 The PA.c Menu is now building in Unicode :-) 23:32:10 cool 23:32:12 cool 23:32:17 HI Sar3th 23:32:19 As of just 7 minutes ago :-) 23:32:32 very nice :) 23:32:42 *** Spaceghost has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:33:06 http://portableapps.com/temp/unicodemenu.png 23:33:18 Too bad I cant be here when the devs are - but timezones are in the way. Reading the logs if fun though! 23:33:22 That's on my English Windows 7 with legacy language (Ansi) set to English. 23:33:48 looks good 23:33:52 :) 23:34:52 *** Spaceghost (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 23:35:58 Got Vietnamese and Serbian (Cyrillic) working properly in it, both of which are langs we can't currently display at all in the current menu 23:37:35 nice. I just tried russion in the old menu and it displays letters I've never had to use before :) 23:38:43 *** Space (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 23:39:05 it'll only work if your codepage (Ansi/legacy) is set to russian in windows 23:39:33 I know. I didnt expect it to work. 23:40:04 I'm pretty psyched. The quick conversion took like 15 minutes once I had Delphi 2010 up and running. 23:40:40 WOW Thats fast. 23:41:01 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:41:08 Bunch of find/replace. Then just needed to recode two functions that get details from files. 23:41:41 thats cool although it doesnt concern me. ONe question: If we go 2.0 and even the splash screen get ajustments, is there any chance you can get the new drupal translation system up and running? Or are we still waiting for the plugin? 23:42:17 I'm already working on it. I'm in the process of switching the whole app directory over to a database-based one. 23:42:25 JohnTHaller: i've done that before as well, except for the recoding functions part ;) 23:42:27 That way, you translate the description of, say Firefox, once. 23:42:54 Each time I release, I update the version number, release date, MD5s, etc... but never have to manually update the German (and other) pages for the apps :-) 23:43:13 So, your job is easier. And mine is easier. And we have all apps up in all langs. 23:43:27 cool. I bet sareth is willing to help with the translation too, seeing it as he has the time to be here at this hour ;) 23:43:37 heh 23:43:43 what lang do you do sar3th 23:44:31 german 23:44:41 same as me. we live some 80 km apart 23:44:53 yes :) 23:45:01 ah heh 23:45:06 ever gotten a beer? 23:45:28 no. 80km is a lot here even if it isnt that much in the US ;) 23:45:40 Yeah, that's nothing here. 23:45:53 Maybe we should start a Stammtisch (=regulars' table) 23:45:58 When I lived in CT, that was under an hour drive 23:46:08 CT? 23:46:40 connecticut 23:47:05 ah. If youre not living in the US, remembering all the state abbrevations is a pain 23:47:54 here in NYC, 80km is much further. because I don't have a car and take public transport. so to get to brooklyn, which is like 13 miles away, take 2 hours by subway (since there is no direct route) 23:48:18 same here, i don't have a car either :/ 23:48:20 even by car, it's 30 mins ... or more likely an hour and 15 in traffic. 23:48:29 I don't even have a license atm :/ 23:48:44 public transport is a lot better here in europe. Although its not that bad in NYC either. 23:49:24 it's not bad when it takes you directly where you want to go. when it doesn't (which is often), it kinda sucks. that's true universally. 23:49:36 other than the subway... the rail system here is horrible 23:50:13 ohh how I miss trains and such wonderful things 23:50:32 well not city trains but trains in general from 1 city to the next 23:50:36 I only went to NYC twice. had to change trains once so it was bearable.(dunno if bearable is the right word here) 23:55:36 It's not so bad. 23:55:42 ZachThibeau: You see the unicode news? 23:56:02 I'm sorry unicode news? 23:56:11 http://portableapps.com/temp/unicodemenu.png 23:56:22 ahh nice :D 23:56:49 It's building in Unicode now. As of about 30 minutes ago. Already tried Vietnamese and Serbian Cyrillic, neither of which worked at all on the Ansi menu no matter what Windows was set as. 23:57:04 *** Space is now known as Spaceghost 23:58:02 *** rouilj1 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23:58:35 I'm impressed thats pretty cool :) 23:59:33 So that, backup, StartPortableApps.exe all workin unicode. Launcher is built in unicode now. Installer is working in unicode. We just need embeddedlists built in unicode and then we have the updater, too.