07:35:42 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 07:35:42 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them 07:35:42 Users on #portableapps: palogbot Bjorn_H Gringoloco @ChrisMorgan taneth111 rmccue excid3|asus Spaceghost SrgSiler|Sleep excid3 Suiseiseki rouilj z3uS Zarggg dbdii407 @Gizmokid2005 evilchazz +GizmoBot +ZachThibeau marlop|away sar3th|away Guest29666 Bensawsome StatBot 07:35:42 palogbot is the logging bot for #portableapps . Logs are found at http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs . If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 07:35:45 palogbot is the logging bot for #portableapps . Logs are found at http://nascent-project.org/irc/logs . If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 07:35:51 Sorry about that, not sure when it died. 07:36:41 about 10 hours ago, and it was being weird, see the last log ! 07:36:44 No more than 9 hours of logs lost, I'd say. Possibly due in some way to a netsplit. 07:37:20 Anyway, it's back in now. 07:37:30 so what's happening ? 07:38:16 *** taneth111 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:38:28 Nothing in particular, I'd say. 07:38:42 *** taneth111 (~TaffinFox@CPE-58-170-17-126.lns9.ken.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps 07:39:13 Did I read you are planning to make the next PAL entirely in C ??? 07:40:06 Not at this stage at all! 07:40:41 So I must have miss understood ! 07:40:53 Some time later on I'm contemplating a rewrite in C; it would be faster, smaller and have more readable code. But it would be quite a big break from the current system of launchers. 07:41:05 I think I had a ;-) there 07:42:44 Do you have any experience in C ? 07:45:22 A smidgeon. 07:45:32 Not enough for starting on such a project yet, though. 07:46:23 are we talking C or C++? 07:46:49 I was talking C. I don't think there'd really be any real use for the enhancements offered by C++. 07:47:08 Straight C is even leaner and faster than C++. 07:47:25 Yeah, but it's also messier and deters new people from joining PA.c 07:51:10 I don't think so at all. 07:51:23 (a) it won't affect users 07:51:32 (b) it won't affect many developers at all 07:51:40 (c) it's still going to be neater than NSIS 07:51:59 (d) developers writing custom segments will still be less likely to need to learn a new language 07:53:49 In my drive to learn more, I have spend my time in making a basic launcher in C 07:54:28 Or in C++ if you like, I'm not even totally sure of the difference ? 07:55:55 Just a small start though ! Maybe I send it to the forum, whenever it's more complete ! 07:56:21 What I've been considering for the future is pretty much a straight port of PAL to C. The structure would work fairly well in C. 07:56:36 It's really pretty much all quite straightforward. 07:58:43 Staight forward ? I couldn't even find an instruction for copying a complete folder ? 07:58:51 I'm *definitely* not up to that stage, anyway. Getting PAL stable in NSIS is the first thing. 07:58:54 The reason I got into PA.c was because I wanted to know how the launchers worked, which was easy enough because NSIS is pretty simple. But if the launcher was written in something like C I probably wouldn't have gotten involved with computers at all. I would at least do it in C++, with lots of comments. 07:59:18 taneth111: what advantages would there be in using C++ instead of C? 07:59:59 easier to read, easier to write, easier to understand. And the speed margin between C and C++ isn't that big, so what's the advantage of using C? 08:00:01 What's more using C or C++ could be a start towards cross-platform functionality. 08:00:14 Not to depend on JimPark keeping Unicode NSIS up to date, maybe ? 08:01:00 taneth111: C++ is almost a superset of C (not quite, but almost). Easier to read/write/understand can thus only depend on classes, I presume; there would not really be any call for classes in PAL. 08:01:30 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|away 08:21:01 *** taneth111 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08:25:28 *** rmccue has quit (Quit: The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two") 08:40:52 *** taneth111 (~TaffinFox@CPE-58-170-17-126.lns9.ken.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps 09:02:34 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 09:09:58 Morning Chris 09:14:51 *** ChrisMorgan|away is now known as ChrisMorgan 09:14:59 Good evening, vf2nsr 09:16:47 guess it is evening over there 09:17:52 8:17PM. 09:18:04 And in 24 hours it will be 7:18PM. 09:18:08 517 am here 09:18:40 stymid by rednotebook so taking a break for a day 09:45:03 ChrisMorgan, so you been busy today? 09:46:40 I went on a 10km hike (and lunch) with some people from our church youth group. That took up most of the day (including travel). 09:49:12 Nice we finally got to 60 F today so everyone was out in shorts and tees 09:55:11 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10:03:10 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 10:12:40 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10:48:51 *** Zarggg has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11:05:58 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 11:52:50 *** taneth111 has quit (Quit: BYE.) 11:56:24 *** pa_6333 (~3aa8576e@gateway/web/freenode/x-efssvajebhpgbgto) has joined #portableapps 11:57:38 *** pa_6333 has quit (Client Quit) 12:06:34 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 12:44:44 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12:47:19 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 12:58:59 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 13:07:37 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 13:32:42 *** pa_2464 (~3aa8576e@gateway/web/freenode/x-ibhbczcinegrmzql) has joined #portableapps 13:35:28 *** pa_2464 has quit (Client Quit) 13:36:12 *** excid3|asus1 (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-39.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 13:38:01 *** excid3|asus has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14:06:11 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-39.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 14:07:14 *** excid3|asus1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14:08:01 *** anyone (~bb0add3e@gateway/web/freenode/x-lsetmsupigfoqrlw) has joined #portableapps 14:17:07 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 14:37:57 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 15:06:06 *** excid3|asus1 (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-39.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 15:07:36 *** excid3|asus has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15:08:00 *** excid3|asus1 has quit (Client Quit) 15:12:08 *** anyone has quit (Quit: Page closed) 15:20:33 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 15:28:57 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 15:29:56 *** Res2216firestar (Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 15:37:41 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: Goodbye, My Friends!) 15:39:04 *** Res2216firestar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 15:40:44 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 15:46:48 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 15:59:01 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16:02:19 *** rmccue has quit (Quit: The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two") 16:05:04 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 16:29:14 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16:30:11 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 16:37:21 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 16:46:14 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SergentSiler 17:21:49 *** rouilj2 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 17:25:15 *** rouilj has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17:52:33 *** OliverK (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 17:55:48 *** OliverK has quit (Client Quit) 18:07:25 *** OliverK (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 18:24:34 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 18:27:12 *** zukeprime (~zuke@71-20-16-34.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has joined #portableapps 18:28:47 *** vf2nsr has quit (Client Quit) 18:42:43 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 18:46:01 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:58:29 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 19:01:02 *** Farfar has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19:05:43 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a83-132-129-116.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 19:09:38 *** kai_62656 (~A@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps 19:12:19 *** Spaceghost (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 19:12:24 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 19:15:12 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19:19:13 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 19:22:07 *** kai_62656 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19:22:15 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 19:26:33 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 19:29:23 *** Farfar has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19:36:31 Alright so, I uploaded Blood Frontier Portable like an hour or two ago and it appears in the folder to which I uploaded it when I type ls in PSFTP, but it doesn't show up on SF. Do I have to wait for it to update? 19:42:12 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 19:45:57 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 19:46:47 *** TimClark (~8087e3f8@gateway/web/freenode/x-pvjuzrkwxgmoolwd) has joined #portableapps 20:15:08 *** Farfar has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:16:08 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 20:28:02 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 20:30:01 *** Farfar has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20:41:36 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 20:44:23 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:50:33 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 20:50:33 *** Farfar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:58:55 *** pa_1725 (~55350df7@gateway/web/freenode/x-sdubwkfzggwjpjzt) has joined #portableapps 20:59:34 help! regarding using firefox portable and foxit portable together 20:59:34 pa_1725: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 21:02:20 firefox error (ocx not found) when trying to open a pdf via foxit plugin... despite I copied it to firefox plugins dir... is my setup faulty or it's just unsupported?? 21:11:09 pa_1725: where did you find instructions to to put it in that location and what is the name of the file you placed there? 21:18:23 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:18:24 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 21:20:39 OK pa_1725 , sorry you were not able to reply, I need to go, but hopefully someone else can help you when you are active. 21:21:01 i'm active, in fact 21:21:03 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps (None) 21:21:36 oops, gone... 21:23:03 for the records, such file is named FoxitReaderOCX.ocx, distributed with the dll of the plugin 21:23:49 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 21:23:54 pa_1725: can't you just do a install of it? 21:24:30 OliverK, sorry, exactly what kind of install do you mean? 21:24:30 or did you do a manual install? 21:24:48 this is firefox, right? Can't you just do a install withit it? 21:25:12 tools, addons, file, install extension 21:25:12 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:25:30 it might be a wee bit different for you, but that's the gist of it 21:25:39 it's a regular setup of the firefox portable release, and a regular portable setup of foxit. Then, after getting the error msg, i copied both dll and ocx from foxit plugins folder to firefox profile plugins folder, following an advice in a foxit forum 21:25:55 huh 21:26:12 it's not an extension, but a plugin... a regular plugin using firefox (netscape plugin API) 21:26:17 *** Farfar has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21:26:25 i don't know if there's supposed to integration between ff portable and foxit portable 21:26:55 yes, foxit includes support to view pdf's inside IE and ffox via plugin 21:27:04 yeah, i know 21:27:24 i have set up computers using foxit as primary pdf readers 21:27:29 they never had adobe installed 21:27:46 I guess my suggestion is to make a post in the forums about it 21:28:35 do you think it's a ffox portable issue to be able to use foxit plugin, or it's a foxit issue? 21:28:46 i'm not sure 21:28:58 i think its a firefox issue, the more I think about it 21:29:17 *** Spaceghost has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:30:56 is there like a ddon you can get at the website? I'd try to use that as there may be some sort of configurations its missing 21:31:34 ok thanks, i'll give it a try 21:32:08 i'll otherwise try a setup from scratch with mainstream (non portable) installations of ffox and foxit, to try to find out where these files are saved when foxit setup detects a ffox installation 21:32:18 k 21:32:42 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 21:42:07 OliverK, you've uploaded to SF before, right? 21:42:15 Scriptdaemon: dah 21:42:20 wassup? Still not there? 21:42:39 You read my thing from earlier? Yeah, not there. 21:42:50 about uploading blood frontier 21:42:57 Yeah. 21:43:04 k 21:43:09 read scroll back :) 21:43:16 have you released the file? 21:44:01 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|School 21:44:25 Oh. To do that I would need to do what? >.> (My first SF project) 21:44:35 um, lemme lok 21:44:57 *** zukeprime has quit (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 21:45:40 been awhile since i did that, give me a sec, please 21:46:08 K. 21:46:29 k, if you go to the admin page, you should see a file manager link 21:47:08 is it there? 21:47:17 they've changed since i've done things in here 21:47:21 Nope. 21:47:54 huh 21:48:03 and the file finished uploading? 21:48:10 did you use the web interface 21:48:18 I used PSFTP. 21:48:43 It took about an hour or so, and then went back to the problem. I checked with ls and the file is in there. 21:48:48 priompt* 21:48:50 okay 21:48:52 prompt* 21:49:47 okay, there's a way to do it via sftp, but i don't remember :( 21:49:55 i also need to work on my school work 21:50:19 That's fine. 21:51:46 you might look through the documentation, it sucked when i read it about 2 years ago, but you should be able to find what ou're looking for :) 21:51:57 you also just wanna uplaod the file with the web interface 21:52:21 but i think you have to move it from the file you uploaded it to the project folder 21:52:22 if you can 21:52:27 Tried that. Timed out both times. 21:52:34 darn 21:52:56 tell you what, when i get my cisco done, i can poke around 21:53:04 Take your time. 22:07:56 SF's documentation really does suck. 22:13:03 *** Spaceghost (libertad@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 22:20:19 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: brb) 22:21:47 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a83-132-129-116.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 22:22:41 *** ptmb has quit (Client Quit) 22:23:10 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a83-132-129-116.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 22:30:11 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 22:35:41 *** Res2216firestar (Sam@wikipedia/Res2216firestar) has joined #portableapps 22:40:59 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 22:44:25 OliverK, fyi, ffox+foxit finally solved, it was a foxit only issue, solved by "registering" the ocx into windows registry 22:44:38 ah 22:45:00 ffox was loading plugin ok (shown in about:plugins list), ffox loaded the foxit dll, but foxit dll failed to load OCX file 22:45:20 yeah, that would do it. Please do post a report, so john knows this. I think its something that should be fixed 22:45:30 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 22:45:35 once registered with "regsvr32 FoxitReaderOCX.ocx", it's now working from the ffox portable setup 22:45:42 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 22:45:47 lol, yup. Thanks. 22:45:53 so... foxit is not so portable despite installed from portableapps' release 22:46:05 well, its portable 22:46:24 its just not tied as well as possible 22:46:38 :-) 22:46:43 that kind of command would require admin rights. Please do post a bug report 22:46:52 that way it can get mostly fixed :) 22:47:14 where should i post it? i didnt see a foxit support section to send it 22:47:20 other apps 22:47:25 ok 23:03:33 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23:22:13 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Bbl.) 23:42:06 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Buh Bye)