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00:14:35 <ChrisMorgan> Erk.  Methinks pidgin made a mess of the /mode
00:15:24 <ChrisMorgan> It apparently doesn't need the channel name specified...
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00:24:16 <vf2nsr> is it possible to launch an exe file from within th einstaller.ini file?
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00:25:44 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: what for?
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00:26:22 <vf2nsr> toying wityh an installer for Picassa
00:26:31 <vf2nsr> I got the download part down
00:26:59 <vf2nsr> and thought about a double extraction  which did not work  nor and advanced
00:27:21 <vf2nsr> appears I need to actually launch once downloaded
00:31:31 <ChrisMorgan> Launch with parameters or what?
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00:34:17 <vf2nsr> I need to launch it to have it install on the stick, thesn I suppose would need to do some reg cleanig after
00:34:58 <vf2nsr> I imagine the user would have to pint it to the appropriate folder, unless that can somehow be done
00:36:06 <vf2nsr> I figure I would need to download it to a temp place tehn run it to install it then remove temp file and clean registry?
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00:36:49 <vf2nsr> Reading through installer manual I see everything except for launching an exe
00:37:33 <ChrisMorgan> You may be able to do it with custom code.
00:37:58 <vf2nsr> That what I was afraid of  lol
00:38:24 <ChrisMorgan> From memory Picasa is an NSIS installer, thus you should be able to tell it where to go and to be a silent installer with command line arguments.
00:38:29 <vf2nsr> was hoping might be one already available but guess not
00:39:35 <vf2nsr> guess I need to read more in the nsis manual?
00:39:49 <ChrisMorgan> Possibly.
00:40:01 <vf2nsr> better idea?
00:44:12 <ChrisMorgan> You could also require them to have it installed on the host machine.  That's not such a nice idea though.
00:44:19 <vf2nsr> maybe this is too advanced for me....perhaps I should way for someone more knowledgeable to do it  :)
00:44:41 <vf2nsr> Apparently that was tried some time ago and did not work
00:44:58 <vf2nsr> So I thought I would take a stab at it
00:45:45 <vf2nsr> but may be out of my league
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00:51:53 <vf2nsr> I been looking at the Chrome installer and trying to figure how it was done there
00:54:19 <vf2nsr> I guess I wll keep playing maybe I get lucky  thanks ChrisMorgan
00:55:04 <ChrisMorgan> Google's teams use different technologies.  The Picasa team used NSIS, I think Chrome might have used something else.
00:55:17 <ChrisMorgan> Anyway, why can't you use single extraction with it?
00:55:23 <ChrisMorgan> What does it produce?
00:55:29 <ChrisMorgan> I would have thought it would work.
00:56:24 <vf2nsr> Going to try single extraction  was just tryinig different ideas
00:56:49 <vf2nsr> was using chrome as template but guess time to toss that out window
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01:00:24 <vf2nsr> well here goes test 25
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01:10:51 <vf2nsr> When looking at teh installer file after creating the installer it does not show error messages  just show the script fo rthe installer correct?
01:11:37 <vf2nsr> is there a way to output the information from th e launch of the installer to see where the error is?
01:11:47 <vf2nsr> or should I try running a debug?
01:13:27 <vf2nsr> as it downloads but never gets launched
01:16:17 <vf2nsr> guess I take a break then figure out how to write a custom code to isntall the file  ttyl
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02:48:39 <vf2nsr> what is portableappz.blogspot.com?
02:49:42 <ZachThibeau> an site that copy's us and redistribute illegally modified software
02:51:30 <vf2nsr> So I see
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04:11:20 <vf2nsr> is an Nsh file a compileini file or is it written as an nsh file?
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04:42:02 <ZachThibeau> howdy Scriptdaemon
04:42:08 <Scriptdaemon> Hola.
04:42:41 <ZachThibeau> I finally fixed language switching in PChat :P
04:42:47 <ZachThibeau> http://i41.tinypic.com/n53myp.png
04:42:48 <ZachThibeau>  here it is in german
04:43:09 <Scriptdaemon> The PA.c Launcher way, or in the app itself?
04:43:19 <ZachThibeau> next step is getting people to update the translations to make sure it's up to day and via the launcher
04:43:35 <Scriptdaemon> Nvm, screenshot answered my question.
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04:44:46 <vf2nsr> scriptdaemon my man just responded to you
04:44:53 <ZachThibeau> anyways some of the po files are outdated so I posted a topic in the language forum asking people if they would be willing to help update them
04:45:17 <Scriptdaemon> ZachThibeau, since we're moving away from XChat's builds that's a good idea anyway.
04:45:25 <vf2nsr> Zach Can I translate to American for you j/k
04:45:47 <ZachThibeau> lol already done ;)
04:45:58 <Scriptdaemon> American isn't a language.
04:45:59 <Scriptdaemon> =P
04:46:16 <vf2nsr> well I have been told we don't speak english well
04:46:31 <ZachThibeau> unless you count syntax :P ie different spelling like Color and Colour (colour for us Canadians ;P)
04:46:32 <Scriptdaemon> vf2nsr, so explain what you're trying to do with custom code?
04:46:44 <Scriptdaemon> That's called US English. =P
04:47:20 <ZachThibeau> lol I know either way english is still pretty much understood
04:47:58 <Scriptdaemon> Which should I try to put up tonight, Tremulous or Maxima?
04:48:06 <vf2nsr> sriptdaemon, I working on Picassa installer, I can get teh file to download but need to execute the exe  then remove it once executed and clean up a few file that are not needed.   Would also like to create a screen before the instal of the exe to explain how to nvigate to correct directory
04:48:28 <vf2nsr> scriptdaemon, so figure i need a post install code ?
04:49:05 <vf2nsr> Zach I real good in typoneese iuf that is ever needed
04:49:34 <vf2nsr> customcodepostinstall
04:49:50 <Scriptdaemon> Can't think of a built-in way to do it with the PA.c Launcher, then again I'm not the one developing it. But yeah, that seems like the appropriate route.
04:50:14 <Scriptdaemon> Though, why do you need to create a screen? Why would the user need to navigate to a directory?
04:50:16 <vf2nsr> so I been reading through on commands and such and think I can piull it off maybe
04:50:44 <vf2nsr> By deffault teh picassa.exe dile wants to install it to c:\programfiles
04:51:03 <vf2nsr> we want it to go to X\PicassaPortable\app
04:51:36 <Scriptdaemon> If you're creating custom code, you can just move it with the custom code.
04:51:50 <vf2nsr> unless I can figure how to have it do it on its own, which I doubt because trhey have to agree to install it first
04:52:15 <vf2nsr> figured it would be neater to just install it iin correct palce to begin with
04:52:35 <vf2nsr> also to not create shortcuts, startmenu items and such
04:52:46 <Scriptdaemon> I've not had to do that, so I can't think of how to do that off-hand, if it's possible.
04:53:21 <vf2nsr> well as I said I think I found ansers in NSIS manual  just wanted to make sure I did not have to use a special editor
04:53:33 <Scriptdaemon> All that can be taken care of with custom code, though. You don't need the user to do anything (which you also really just don't want to have to do anyway).
04:54:03 <vf2nsr> so I can have the installer automatically fill in blanks of the exe installer?
04:54:39 <Scriptdaemon> I don't know about that, but I mean if you have a custom code segment you can move all the files to their appropriate places so the user doesn't have to.
04:54:57 <Scriptdaemon> I'd wait to ask Chris or John, personally though. They might know of a better solution.
04:55:14 <Scriptdaemon> Have you looked at the code for Google Chrome Portable?
04:55:18 <Scriptdaemon> That might help too.
04:55:20 <vf2nsr> true but rather not have to have it installed on local computer then moved?  wouldn't it be a neater install straight to usb stick?
04:55:33 <vf2nsr> yes and it not working out
04:55:51 <vf2nsr> it does a double extraction methon  I  trid and get no where
04:56:27 <vf2nsr> apparently according to chris  chrome has there own installer format
04:56:33 <Scriptdaemon> There might be a way to pass environment variables/command line arguments and a silent install.
04:56:34 <vf2nsr> picassa uses an nsis one
04:56:59 <vf2nsr> wow this is getting way more complicated every line
04:57:20 <vf2nsr> If I go silent how does user agree to terms of service for Picassa?
04:58:00 <Scriptdaemon> You can add a EULA.txt file in the Other/Source directory. This is of course is Picasa allows a silent install, I'm just speculating.
04:58:07 <Scriptdaemon> if*
04:58:57 <vf2nsr> will have to look into that one
05:00:17 <vf2nsr> well I guess I got my work cut out for me
05:00:43 <vf2nsr> Oh and BTW I Know I need to fix the PA name of launchy that is displayed in PA menu
05:00:49 <vf2nsr> just discoverred it tonight
05:01:22 <vf2nsr> but not doing it till I get some feedback on it
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05:02:09 <Scriptdaemon> Bah. Site offline for me.
05:02:54 <vf2nsr> which site?
05:03:30 <Scriptdaemon> PA.c. It was just for a minute or two though.
05:03:49 <vf2nsr> really  it running good for me
05:04:22 <vf2nsr> anyway will let you go and once again thanks for your help
05:04:36 <vf2nsr> I'll let you knmow what progres I make if any
05:05:06 <vf2nsr> ttyl
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05:05:16 <ZachThibeau> night everyone
05:09:24 <Scriptdaemon> Night.
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06:48:31 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, http://scriptdaemon.pastebin.com/1FSwGP0d <- The launcher .ini and the .bat for Blood Frontier.
06:48:42 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks.
06:50:03 <ChrisMorgan> They do look rather the same.
06:50:39 <ChrisMorgan> One extremely remote possibility - put a space after WorkingDirectory (that will involve quoting it - "%BF_OPTIONS% ")
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06:52:56 <ChrisMorgan> I wouldn't expect that to work.  It definitely shouldn't change anything (I think such a space will already be put in... can't remember precisely though)
06:53:06 <Scriptdaemon> You mean the command line arguments? (or rather, %PAL:AppDir%\BloodFrontier?)
06:53:31 <Scriptdaemon> The working directory isn't BF_OPTIONS.
06:53:32 <pa_1909> hi, just wondering if pendriveapps.com is a good source of apps to complement portableapps.com, or it is it a dodgy site?
06:54:12 <ChrisMorgan> s/WorkingDirectory/CommandLineArguments/
06:54:57 <ChrisMorgan> pa_1909: I can't remember at the moment.  As for the quality of their apps I don't know; we can't guarantee it.  And their apps won't work with tools like the PortableApps.com Backup utility.
06:55:10 <Scriptdaemon> Didn't work.
06:55:52 <vf2nsr> Any programs you can recommend I look at that have cutomcodepostinstal macros?
06:57:04 <Scriptdaemon> I have work tomorrow morning, so I should head to bed. I'll leave that with you if you want/care to come up with any other ideas. Night.
06:57:15 <ChrisMorgan> Scriptdaemon: I'm utterly bamboozled.
06:57:20 <Scriptdaemon> Likewise. :(
06:57:33 <ChrisMorgan> Have you tried putting the contents of BF_OPTIONS in directly rather than using %BF_OPTIONS%?
06:57:43 <Scriptdaemon> Yes.
06:57:47 <Scriptdaemon> I've begun with that.
06:57:57 <ChrisMorgan> Putting single quotes around /that/?
06:58:05 <ChrisMorgan> (To avoid potential quotes problems)
06:58:18 <Scriptdaemon> That I have not done.
06:58:20 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: there's nothing to it.  Just !macro CustomCodePostInstall at the start, !macroend at the end and the code you want in between.
06:58:35 <vf2nsr> ok ty
06:58:47 <ChrisMorgan> Inkscape uses it though.
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06:59:36 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/trunk/annotate/head%3A/packaging/win32/portable/Other/Source/PortableApps.comInstallerCustom.nsh
06:59:59 <vf2nsr> TY Chris
07:00:53 <Scriptdaemon> BAH WHAT THE CRAP.
07:00:59 <Scriptdaemon> Single quotes works.
07:01:00 <Scriptdaemon> -.-
07:01:03 <ChrisMorgan> Scriptdaemon: I'd suggest that you (a) ask them and (b) take a look at the source code to work out what's going on.  You could also try replacing the directory names inside the batch file, and make it use %PAL:AppDir% etc. (you're running the batch file from the launcher aren't you?)
07:01:05 <ChrisMorgan> Ooh!
07:01:13 <ChrisMorgan> That /is/ interesting.
07:01:33 <ChrisMorgan> So... is % being seen as a quotation mark or something?
07:01:44 <Scriptdaemon> What does the launcher do that would cause it to need single quotes?
07:01:49 <Scriptdaemon> I'unno?
07:03:00 <ChrisMorgan> I think I know why it's happening.  ReadINIStr or my own thing see " at the start, " at the end, and so get rid of them.
07:03:14 <ChrisMorgan> So you were ending up with -r%PAL:DataDir%\settings\init.cfg" "-h%PAL:DataDir%\settings"  "-o%PAL:PortableAppsDir%\SauerbratenPortable\App\Sauerbraten
07:04:22 <Scriptdaemon> Ah. Don't you just love my random bug finding skills?
07:05:05 <ChrisMorgan> I have said before about quotes.  I think I need to put a BIG, GLARING WARNING in 100pt text on every page of the manual.
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07:06:27 <Scriptdemon> As I was saying. Or maybe make it so it just doesn't do that? :D
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07:07:56 <ChrisMorgan> I can't do that.  It's part of the Windows INI-parsing method.
07:08:05 <Scriptdaemon> Bah.
07:09:43 <Scriptdaemon> Oh well, I'll update tomorrow. Night.
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07:31:12 <vf2nsr> I want my old Ti99/4A  extended basic back...that made sense  this nsis stuff i Greek to me
07:31:40 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: but still, I don't think you should need it for extracting stuff out of an NSIS installer.
07:32:13 <vf2nsr> when I  extract all I get are files like .data  .text .rsrc
07:33:37 <vf2nsr> so my idea was to download the file then create a custom code to run it and tehn to remove certain files after it was run
07:34:28 <vf2nsr> using exec, watfirexec, and delete file
07:35:29 <ChrisMorgan> That's /all/ you get?  And what do they look like?
07:35:55 <vf2nsr> a bunch of ansi characters
07:36:16 <ChrisMorgan> No $PLUGINSDIR folder or anything like that?
07:36:58 <ChrisMorgan> (Have you tried opening it directly in 7-Zip?  I imagine you'd get the same stuff but it'd be good to check to see if the installer's doing anything else or whatnot.
07:37:02 <ChrisMorgan> )
07:38:09 <vf2nsr> yup same stuff
07:38:26 <vf2nsr> and I cant copy and pastebin it for you as only 3 characters show up
07:41:20 <ChrisMorgan> Strange.  I'm sure it was an NSIS installer...
07:42:26 <vf2nsr> let me check something just for giggles
07:43:33 <vf2nsr> nope thought MAYBE it would tell me the installer type in properties
07:44:15 <vf2nsr> sure looks like an NSIS installer
07:46:21 <ChrisMorgan> Is there a line "NSIS v2.43" or something like that just above the buttons at the bottom of the window (on the main pages, not the welcome/finish page)?
07:47:55 <vf2nsr> let me check  iot would be on installer page right
07:48:50 <vf2nsr> Nullsoft nstall System v2.42.4 -unicode
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07:51:53 <ChrisMorgan> That's what I thought it was.
07:52:07 <ChrisMorgan> So then why isn't it extracting..?
07:52:13 <ChrisMorgan> Because it's NSISu?
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07:57:03 <vf2nsr> grrrrrrr stupid isp
07:58:19 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan did you get hte message just before I got killed?
07:58:37 <vf2nsr> nullsoft sytem installer 2.42.2 unicode
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15:38:44 <gringoloco> hello there !
15:41:19 <gringoloco> Is there anybody else about who has issues with PAL's SecondaryLaunch :-?
15:41:39 <gringoloco> I'm really puzzeled here....
15:46:07 <Rapscallion_> I dont what you mean by SecondaryLaunch so Im not sure.  (im guessing if I dont know what it is, then I dont have the issue...;-) )
15:47:19 <gringoloco> Rapscallion: Do you use PChat Portable
15:47:57 <Rapscallion_> I have downloaded it but have not tried it yet.  I use Trillian for IRC
15:49:13 <sar3th> gringoloco: i haven't heard about issues with PAL's secondary launch yet, please describe
15:49:22 <gringoloco> Could you just see what happens if you start it and then restart it a secondlaunch
15:50:12 <gringoloco> When I restart it it deletes launcher.ini & PortableApps.comLauncherRuntimeData.ini
15:50:37 <gringoloco> so the initial launcher doen't cleanup after it self !
15:50:52 <sar3th> you quit the initial instance, right?
15:51:12 <gringoloco> I'm just very confused cause, suddenly this is happening since beta 2
15:51:22 <gringoloco> No secondary launch
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15:52:00 <gringoloco> do not quit the initial instance, do a secondary launch
15:52:21 <sar3th> and after thatß
15:52:57 <gringoloco> launcher.ini & PortableApps.comLauncherRuntimeData.ini are deleted on my side, and no secondary launch is executed
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15:53:46 <sar3th> where are these files located gringoloco?
15:54:03 <gringoloco> the launcher.ini should  be located in $PLUGINSDIR
15:54:23 <gringoloco> PortableApps.comLauncherRuntimeData.ini is located in Data folder
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15:55:17 <sar3th> gringoloco: i cannot find these files
15:55:22 <sar3th> they don't exist
15:55:36 <gringoloco> Probably cause they were deleted....
15:55:56 <sar3th> no, i can't find them while pchat is running
15:57:13 <gringoloco> How about secondary lunch, does it execute immediatly or do you actually have restart it twice ?
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16:02:39 <gringoloco> Wait this wasn't the official release of PChat, which isn't using PAL !
16:03:19 <gringoloco> Is there just nobody who can confirm this with any DT using PAL ?
16:06:39 <Scriptdaemon> All of my apps use PAL, although I'm a bit busy atm.
16:10:48 <ZachThibeau> current dev test of PChat uses PAL
16:11:09 <gringoloco> And you never realized everything gets left behind on second launch & it's not actually executing anything the first 'secondlaunch' you execute
16:12:19 <gringoloco> ZachThibeau: PChatPortable pre release link is death http://portableapps.com/node/22610
16:12:42 <ZachThibeau> pre-release is supposed to be dead
16:13:31 <gringoloco> ZachThibeau: current dev test of PChat, any issues with second launch?
16:13:51 <gringoloco> Why am I the only experiencing this ....????
16:13:55 <ZachThibeau> nope actually
16:14:08 <ZachThibeau> what version are you using (of the pal launcher that is)
16:14:35 <Scriptdaemon> What version of Windows are you using? Do you have admin privs?
16:14:41 <gringoloco> Does it react the first time you secondary launch it
16:14:50 <gringoloco> XP sp3
16:15:03 <ZachThibeau> answer my question too please
16:15:12 <Scriptdaemon> With or without admin?
16:15:48 <gringoloco> I've been testing this all afternoon with beta 2, beta 3, unicode & ansi
16:16:10 <ZachThibeau> ok I'm using Beta 3 unicode and no issues my end
16:16:42 <ZachThibeau> brb
16:17:13 <gringoloco> $PLUGINSDIR\launcher.ini & Data\PortableApps.comLauncherRuntimeData.ini do they get deleted at a second-launch?
16:18:03 <gringoloco> the launcher.ini of the initial launcher I am talking about !
16:18:41 <gringoloco> Sorry, with admin !
16:20:50 <gringoloco> Even happens to me using PChat Portable 1.0.4 Development Test 3 http://portableapps.com/node/23259
16:20:50 <ZachThibeau> ok just confirmed it
16:21:08 <gringoloco> Finally, I'm not crazy....
16:21:28 <ZachThibeau> hold on first though, I'm not ready to call it fully confirmed :P
16:21:46 <gringoloco> This is a big issue, as PAL doesn't cleanup anything after it self !
16:23:12 <ZachThibeau> back
16:23:19 <gringoloco> What DT using PAL and the registry or local files copy ?
16:23:22 <ZachThibeau> ok I cleaned up my temp folder first
16:23:38 <gringoloco> curiouse ....
16:23:43 <ZachThibeau> and I relaunched several times and each time the temp folder is cleaned up properly
16:24:11 <gringoloco> but is the initial launcher.ini deleted
16:24:34 <ZachThibeau> the whole folder containing those files are removed after execution is finished
16:25:14 <gringoloco> SecondLaunch we are talking, does the second launch delete the first launchers $PLUGINSDIR\launcher.ini
16:26:08 <ZachThibeau> I don't have secondlaunch set so PChat is set to launch only the 1 time
16:26:46 <gringoloco> I mean when you launch another portable instance while it is already running.
16:27:26 <ZachThibeau> ok it launched but I don't see the issue you are seeing
16:27:37 <gringoloco> odd...
16:28:54 <gringoloco> Ok, could you launch one instance and tell me what Data\PortableApps.comLauncherRuntimeData.ini has as pluginsdir value
16:29:50 <ZachThibeau> not at this given time, currently busy with other stuff atm, give me 10 minutes
16:30:17 <gringoloco> ok, thanx for time
16:35:11 <ZachThibeau> ok back, just had an important phone call to take care of
16:36:14 <ZachThibeau> and I don't have PortableApps.comLauncherRuntimeData.ini at all running
16:37:23 <Scriptdaemon> ...You sure?
16:38:14 <ZachThibeau> positive
16:38:46 <Scriptdaemon> That's weird. You should.
16:39:14 <gringoloco> and if exit PChat and run it again. Look in Data folder
16:39:32 <ZachThibeau> brb then
16:39:41 <gringoloco> what's  brb?
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16:40:32 <ZachThibeau> brb = be right back
16:40:38 <ZachThibeau> and I'm back
16:40:52 * ZachThibeau loves his znc program :)
16:41:08 <gringoloco> So, what if exit PChat and run it again. Look in Data folder
16:41:37 <ZachThibeau> ok it's showing now
16:41:38 <ZachThibeau> C:\Users\ZACHTH~1\AppData\Local\Temp\nsqE892.tmp
16:42:05 <gringoloco> so open that folder and check if it consists a launcher.ini
16:42:45 <ZachThibeau> I already know it will be there, I've had the temp folder open for sometime and each time I exit it removes that tmp folder
16:43:53 <gringoloco> ok but show it's there, so when you run a second instance we can see if it deleted the launcher.ini (do not close the initial launch)
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16:44:27 <Scriptdaemon> Why would it ever delete the launcher .ini file? It shouldn't ever do that.
16:44:50 <gringoloco> It shouldn't but does (on my side anyway)
16:44:59 <ZachThibeau> not seeing it deleted at all
16:45:30 <gringoloco> on a second launch ?
16:45:44 <gringoloco> I am going crazy (I think)
16:46:15 <ZachThibeau> yes on second launch, I'm not seeing it happen
16:46:31 <gringoloco> What about PortableApps.comLauncherRuntimeData.ini
16:46:48 <gringoloco> Is it still there
16:47:32 <gringoloco> What OS are you on ?
16:47:38 <ZachThibeau> the runtime ini is deleted
16:47:48 <ZachThibeau> and I'm on Windows 7 Ultimate x64
16:48:16 <gringoloco> And not C:\Users\ZACHTH~1\AppData\Local\Temp\nsqE892.tmp
16:48:19 <gringoloco> ?
16:48:38 <ZachThibeau> however when I close the first instance the tmp folder is still removed
16:48:38 <gringoloco> Sorry, I just wanna know whats going on !
16:48:49 <ZachThibeau> it's your system by the looks of things
16:48:56 <gringoloco> ok, but is normal
16:49:43 <ZachThibeau> every cleans up properly after I close everything for me
16:50:12 <gringoloco> Ok, thanx I have to test on diffent machine, and hope I find out what's going on !
16:50:38 <ZachThibeau> np
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19:20:40 <neomann> hi
19:21:15 <neomann> is it possible to force popup to a new tab?
19:23:13 <sar3th> hello neomann, please be more specific; do you mean "how to force firefox portable to always open popups in a new tab"?
19:25:39 <neomann> sar3th: not really
19:25:46 <neomann> javascript:void(%20window.open('http://vi.sualize.us/post/?popup=1&address=http%253A%252F%252Fpeople.ucsc.edu%252F%7Evlee%252Fgoogle.jpg&title=http%3A%2F%2Fpeople.ucsc.edu%2F~vlee%2Fgoogle.jpg&referenceURL=http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=google&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi',%20'','status=0,toolbar=no,width=750,height=550,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes')%20);
19:26:39 <sar3th> i think you're in the wrong channel then ;) this is #portableapps, for questions and support related to http://www.portableapps.com
19:26:44 <neomann> when trying to bookmark a photo vi.sualize.us force firefox to open a stupid popup
19:26:58 <neomann> :)
19:27:20 <neomann> sorry, i thought since it's related to firefox then i should be here :|
19:28:32 <sar3th> not really, firefox has its own irc channel i believe, let me check
19:29:52 <sar3th> neomann: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Live%20Chat
19:33:03 <neomann> thabks sar3th
19:33:34 <sar3th> no problem neomann
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21:58:53 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
21:59:24 <gluxon> digitxp!
21:59:35 <digitxp> hi everyone
22:01:02 <ZachThibeau> hola gluxon and digitxp
22:01:09 <gluxon> Hi Zach.
22:01:19 <digitxp> I have a question in -ot if you don't mind
22:01:29 <ZachThibeau> shoot
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22:37:32 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
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23:20:26 <pa_2909> any advice re problems with Java_portable connection failing ot connect?
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23:44:03 <GizmoBot> ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!)
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