00:01:52 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 00:11:47 *** Bloodsong (~Nimbus@bas13-toronto12-1167984050.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #portableapps 01:09:33 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 01:09:34 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 01:16:10 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:26:10 *** Bensawsome has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01:26:20 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@c-71-235-7-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:26:21 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats 01:26:40 *** Bensawsome is now known as Guest16360 01:28:13 *** Guest16360 is now known as Bensawsome 01:28:30 *** Bensawsome has quit (Changing host) 01:28:30 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 01:28:36 ... 01:49:12 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 02:01:50 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 02:45:47 *** Ashhh is now known as oO 02:47:03 *** oO is now known as Ashhh 02:52:06 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:00:57 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 03:21:49 *** rouilj2 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 03:23:01 *** rouilj1 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:28:41 *** rouilj2 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03:31:40 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 03:38:01 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:47:10 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 03:47:10 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 03:54:54 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 04:08:17 *** Geerdog (~4b6d8f78@gateway/web/freenode/x-nkggfnvynkyqlzsn) has joined #portableapps 04:11:01 are these app compatible with mac OS X? 04:11:17 apps* 04:11:31 Geerdog: not natively. They will work with Wine but they're not OS X applications. 04:11:39 They're Windows applications. 04:12:13 so they wont work? 04:12:28 They will work with Wine but not without it. 04:12:58 ok but... one more thing what is Wine 04:13:22 http://www.winehq.org/ 04:13:42 thanks! 04:14:20 *** Geerdog has quit (Quit: Page closed) 04:14:49 would that be the chardonay version or teh zifandel one Chris? 04:14:55 ? 04:15:02 Wine lol 04:15:08 ?? 04:15:30 I give up even my jokes aren't good lol 04:15:41 ??? 04:16:12 what i first posted are 2 types of wine as in bottkled 04:16:18 bottled* 04:16:35 Oh. 04:17:08 sorry 04:17:21 at least I waited fo ruser to leave 04:17:26 :P 04:18:00 BTW I was researchibg in the 2 beta 4 manual today and actually had my question answered :) 04:18:16 and I wish these keys would stop moving 04:18:18 *** Mir_ (~Mir@pool-71-109-232-90.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 04:18:27 What are you typing with? 04:18:42 I was looking to put a longer delay on splash 04:19:11 My keyboard lol I am not really a typist sort of learned on fly, my brain sometimes works faster than fingers 04:19:16 *** Mir has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:19:23 If it had been left to me I don't think that SplashTime option would be in. John requested it though so there it is. 04:19:25 and they don't always sync 04:19:43 *** Mir_ is now known as Mir 04:19:57 I liked it because often if a prgram takes a while to load O wonder if it is actually is 04:20:16 You saw the splash screen. It shows something's happening. 04:20:40 it went away after 1.5 min and then you wonder if the rest was loading 04:21:03 But as it says, use that with extreme caution. I don't mind a splash screen for 1.2 seconds or even two or three seconds, but if a splash was up for 10 seconds, modal, I'd be turning it off. 04:21:33 True on the latest release of Jajuk I set it to 5 secs 04:21:50 then there is empy for about 5 and then jajuk pops 04:22:17 I think that's too long. 04:22:41 really? well there will be a new version soon so I will cut it back a bit. 04:23:08 Particularly as if you use the LaunchAppAfterSplash it won't launch the program until the splash screen finishes (do you use it?) 04:23:30 no I leave that to default 04:23:34 If it's only a ten second total launch time that's nothing to worry about, don't set SplashTime. 04:23:47 Is it a full-screen application? 04:23:52 no 04:23:57 Can it be? 04:24:00 unless chosen by user 04:24:16 it could be 04:24:37 If it can be then you should set LaunchAppAfterSplash to true otherwise if the user sets it that way it may get all gummed up. 04:24:53 ok will write that down 04:25:09 good point 04:25:10 And then I'd say get rid of SplashTime completely 04:25:16 ok 04:26:05 makes sense in what you say 04:40:44 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 04:42:23 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.132) has joined #portableapps 05:08:40 Gringoloco: a better way of doing it is just a CommonFiles sort of thing which can be detected by Command Prompt Portable and added to the path. 05:09:24 I'm intending to have a go at munging Command Prompt Portable so that it can detect certain files which indicate directories to find directories to add to the PATH. 05:09:53 Thats just what I done, Path env. var. 05:10:04 Then tell people "this is how you do it: run PuTTY, run pageant, run Command Prompt Portable and you're ready". 05:10:23 But I'm saying it'd be better not as a separate script at all but rather as something Command Prompt Portable will detect and use. 05:10:28 But I'm just about to send it now ! 05:10:50 Feel free to. I'm just saying later on we should switch to something more like this. 05:11:33 I included a modified script of command prompt, and I was doubting to just make it link to Command Prompt Portable, but would get confusing for new users 05:12:18 Can I host it on your server 5MB ? 05:12:18 "New users" will be technically proficient users. So long as the documentation is fairly clear (and in particular any error messages or that sort of thing) they'll be able to work it out. 05:12:21 Sure. 05:12:33 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Opera Web Browser 10.51! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://www.opera.com/) 05:12:49 (The reason why I listed PuTTY and pageant is for people that need to pull and push via SSH - like me with working on PAL.) 05:13:01 It's *sooo* much easier in Linux than in Windows. 05:13:18 I'm not formiliar with PuTTY 05:13:50 I just wanted to make the people from Mercurial\Wiki happy 05:13:55 The only reason I have to start PuTTY Portable is so that the data is put into the registry concerning trusting the computer. 05:14:31 Sure. Later on though such things will, I expect, be more integrated with Command Prompt Portable and it will become much more the launch hub of command line programs. Not each with their own data. 05:15:12 Basacily it's just adding the env.var 'Path' to command prompt portable ! 05:15:39 Yep. 05:16:25 What is 'command.com', is that win98? 05:16:36 Yes 05:17:11 It can also be used when interactive use of cmd.exe is blocked in the Windows policy. 05:19:04 I'll just leave it in for now, just have to finish some documentation 05:25:01 Uploading, it's nice to have a fast internet conection 05:25:40 My girl-friends, but tomorrow I'll go home again(if I can fly) 05:40:50 Ok, that's it! 05:41:51 mgeisler left his email in the forum, not sure if that's that smart 05:41:53 http://portableapps.com/node/22537#comment-147802 05:42:17 He was warned, I think it's up to him to decide. 05:44:54 'Size' or 'Size on disk' what is preferable? 05:45:20 I just use the figure that the NSIS installer shows in the "install directory" page. 06:06:33 What do you think about it ? 06:07:58 Gringoloco: it's worth while also mentioning that after they've cloned once they just need to "hg pull&&hg up" 06:08:22 And because it's a one-off thing I would recommend people not save the clone line to a batch script, just execute it once. 06:10:28 Is it just "hg pull&&hg up", or would you have to add the path ? I never actually got it to work 06:10:58 You've got to be inside the repository directory (your clone) for it to work. 06:12:06 ah ok, about 'clone' as well, I wanted to make it fool proof, more experienced people would work it out! 06:12:45 I just don't see the point of putting a single-use thing into a batch file so that you can run it, instead of just saying "do this". 06:15:52 Ok, I could just add it as a comment for the anexperienced PA members. 06:16:22 clone, is just short and fool proof no url no path ! 06:16:52 Instead of saying "For PAL users who want to download the latest HG-tip, add the following file: Data\Batch\clone.bat" ... then you can ... say "To clone the PAL repository:" 06:17:15 They've still got to get the batch file right. 06:17:23 I will. 06:17:32 Whereas if you just tell people "Do this:" they should be able to get it. 06:18:08 BTW: isn't it confinient to have an additional path which cmd links to ? 06:18:28 And then "To update the PAL repository clone: change into the directory you cloned it to (cd \PortableApps\PortableApps.comLauncherHGtip) and then do this:
hg pull&&hg up
" 06:18:54 When on Windows I tend to have a mix of extra directories in the PATH and doskey macros. 06:19:28 The only problem with doskey macros is that they don't work quite right with multiple commands on the one line with && 06:21:48 So should I have added that path, or just aswell leave it out for next update? 06:22:11 The directory which contains hg should most certainly be in the PATH. Is that what you're asking, or another directory? 06:23:28 Data\Batch, My self I found it convinient ! 06:23:50 Ah. Up to you. 06:23:56 People could find it useful. 06:24:05 So I can carry around additional scripts to run from any where 06:24:14 Do you have a commandprompt.bat or similar script which gets run on launch? 06:24:43 (For myself I'll still continue to use Command Prompt Portable, just adding the directory with hg into the PATH.) 06:25:11 It's the CommandPromptPortable script, plus hg command 06:25:46 I'm saying I'll launch and use it from Command Prompt Portable, because I've got that all set up (to do far more than just hg) 06:26:07 Ah. So it does execute commandprompt.bat? 06:26:14 Yes 06:26:29 You might like to put a line like "title Mercurial Cmd Portable" into the default - what do you reckon? 06:26:52 I should have.... 06:28:05 I just want to make sure it's good enough as it is now, before I send the email to mgeisler 06:37:44 There, I got 50% of my assignment done, fairly quickly too. 06:38:49 Sorry, keeping you of your study, again 06:38:53 :-) 06:40:27 So: 1, 2 and 4a done, 3, 4b and 5 still to do before Friday afternoon. I think I'll go now too before it gets too dark (as I ride on main roads). 06:40:44 Any more suggestions, before I upload the title change ? 06:41:27 Not really, I don't think, except possibly calling it Mercurial Portable rather than Mercurial Cmd Portable (as Mercurial refers to the command line utilities; if it were TortoiseHg it'd be TortoiseHg) 06:42:14 Yes I wasn't sure about it, but it's because it's the command line utility as well 06:42:26 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: See, I'm actually managing to leave within a few minutes of saying I would leave! :O, Shock Horror, et al.) 06:54:43 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 07:14:22 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.132) has joined #portableapps 07:14:50 Spam: http://portableapps.com/node/18901 08:07:24 *** marlop|away has quit (Quit: Leaving...) 08:31:00 *** marlop|away (marlop@use.the.force.on.shellium.org) has joined #portableapps 08:31:28 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 08:31:58 *** marlop is now known as Guest85624 09:16:48 *** dbdii407 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:18:23 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 09:22:08 *** AGGELOS (~554ae893@gateway/web/freenode/x-jcqicmdtnvjgcvme) has joined #portableapps 09:22:15 hello 09:24:54 I am looking for a program in order to record my desktop do you know something?? 09:26:33 *** AGGELOS has quit (Quit: Page closed) 09:31:23 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 09:36:59 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 09:44:20 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 09:51:53 *** AGGELOS (~554ae893@gateway/web/freenode/x-xxgeuqgdlimfssxw) has joined #portableapps 09:52:03 hello 09:53:00 hi 09:53:14 I am looking for Cam Studio Portable wher can i download it?? 09:56:03 you could try http://portableapps.com/node/16708 10:19:39 thanks i am going now 10:21:24 bye 10:22:02 *** AGGELOS has quit (Quit: Page closed) 10:26:14 *** SteveLamerton (~kvirc@14.223.125.91.gr7.adsl.brightview.com) has joined #portableapps 10:26:29 Hello all 10:43:05 hi SteveLamerton 10:43:16 Hi sar3th 10:43:27 how are you? 10:50:23 Not so bad thanks, a bit of a cold lingering, but pretty decent, you? 10:51:37 a bit tired, got a lot of stuff to do 10:52:36 I know the feeling, being unwell has put me behind 11:22:36 *** Space (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 11:26:35 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11:36:03 *** Space is now known as Spaceghost 11:50:00 *** Bloodsong has quit (Quit: Leaving) 11:51:23 *** diib (~dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 11:53:19 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 11:54:16 *** pa_2665 (~7a31a509@gateway/web/freenode/x-uslddokebfmqunvh) has joined #portableapps 11:54:29 Spam Alert - http://portableapps.com/node/21374#comment-147861 11:54:44 *** dbdii407 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11:54:44 *** diib is now known as dbdii407 11:55:40 *** pa_2665 has quit (Client Quit) 12:27:12 *** rmccue has quit (Quit: The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two") 12:40:30 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 13:02:33 *** dboki89 (~d5c6db41@gateway/web/freenode/x-qkoolwzaownclaig) has joined #portableapps 13:02:54 Hi. As usual, some SPAM comming your way... 13:03:23 SPAM No.1: http://portableapps.com/node/18901#comment-147852 and SPAM No.2: http://portableapps.com/node/18901#comment-147853 13:03:41 They are one after another, so any link is fine. 13:03:54 SPAM is something about t he horce racing. 13:04:09 Bye 13:08:20 *** dboki89 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13:21:14 *** Bloodsong (~Nimbus@bas2-barrie18-1242454308.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #portableapps 13:24:44 *** nanoguy has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 13:42:30 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 13:43:50 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 13:43:51 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 15:25:30 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 15:40:11 howdy y'all 15:40:17 'ello 15:41:09 what be new this day? :) 15:48:12 i got more :3 15:48:20 more what? 15:48:32 sergentsiler knows 15:48:48 ZachThibeau might know 15:55:43 *** portablepaul (~52127bad@gateway/web/freenode/x-wzdsrlmpftuavlcl) has joined #portableapps 15:56:17 Hey, I'm trying to install skype portable and it's saying that the installer is unable to download skype ("ERROR: Redirection (302)"). Any ideas? 15:56:43 are you at home or at work? 15:56:50 it might be blocked 15:56:55 work laptop but at home 15:57:01 using a direct connection though 15:57:04 (no VPN) 15:57:18 huh 15:57:22 lemme check 15:57:30 want the link? 15:57:38 nope, got it 15:57:59 k 15:58:40 huh, just download it fresh from the website and i'm downloading it fine 15:58:51 huh, that's odd... 15:58:55 if you go the the skype website, can you download from there? 15:59:03 Somehow it'd reactivated the proxy all by itself 15:59:10 So in theory, nothing should have worked! 15:59:32 proxy for work? 15:59:37 Yeah 15:59:39 But it's 'proxy' 15:59:50 So without the VPN, I shouldn't even be able to connect to this 15:59:59 It's downloading now though 16:00:02 cool 16:00:12 Thanks for your assistance anyway! :) 16:00:16 no prob 16:00:38 yep, it works. Thanks 16:01:04 *** portablepaul has quit () 16:12:09 *** SteveLamerton has quit () 16:15:15 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 16:50:57 *** dbdii407 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:51:55 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 17:03:55 *** Guest85624 is now known as marlop 18:16:44 *** Ashhh is now known as cherkesashley 18:17:33 *** cherkesashley is now known as Ashhh 18:42:38 *** qwertymodo (~8cd388cc@gateway/web/freenode/x-yberlczgwnvsaeqx) has joined #portableapps 18:45:53 *** roimato (~5667e480@gateway/web/freenode/x-cnnpcwiyrmjeuxoz) has joined #portableapps 18:46:31 hello 18:47:12 someone here? 18:47:57 yes roimato, need help 18:47:59 ? 18:49:49 yes 18:50:16 pretty new here so 4give me for stupid things :-) 18:51:49 can i change the look and skin of the app launcher or create a new one with for example photoshop? 18:52:23 *** qwertymodo has quit (Quit: Page closed) 18:52:42 ? 18:53:44 theming is possible, but i am not an expert about it :/ 18:54:05 as far as i know, theming will be very big in the new 2.0 release (or even the beta) 18:54:16 but it is possible (though limited at the moment9 19:02:53 is there somewhere a forum which i can check for this and "how to do it"? 19:02:54 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 19:03:13 any idear when 2.0 will be out? 19:07:22 2.0 will be out "when it's done", and you can use the search engine of the site to find such posts :) 19:46:50 *** roimato has quit (Quit: Page closed) 20:33:03 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a83-132-129-116.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:43:05 *** Dustin (~cc7e8422@gateway/web/freenode/x-adrbxdgexoqimfhj) has joined #portableapps 20:43:35 hey am I in the right place for chat support? 20:48:16 hey MaienM are you a support moderator? 20:48:28 @MaienM * 20:49:09 yes 20:49:15 what can I help you with? 20:50:30 I installed the java platform loader&components to a Flash drive, in hopes to run java-enabled programs via the drive 20:50:59 but the program I want to run - even though it uses and access java - is a .exe file and the platform loader doesn't recognize it (it seems to only recognize .JAR files) 20:51:37 is there anything I can do to be able to run the .exe program and have it access java from the flash drive, instead of the harddrive? Thanks in advance for your time! 20:52:48 (the programs I installed on the drive were the Portable Apps and Launcher) 20:54:08 I'm sorry Dustin, I have to go, but sar3th will help you 20:54:12 is that alright with you? 20:54:25 That's fine, thanks anyway! 20:54:42 Dustin: can you tell me which application you are trying to run through portable java? 20:55:28 it is a game that access an online server. ( http://www.dominategame.com/website.php? ) <--the game's website 20:55:52 there are two options - to play the game within the client, or to download the game and run it from the computer. I have tried both 20:56:22 okay, please standby, i'll have a look .) 20:56:25 :) 20:56:42 great, thanks! 20:59:37 hm, are you sure that dominategame uses java? 21:00:07 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 21:00:49 well when I play on my other computer, the java icon does appear at the taskbar. And a FAQ on the site said that sometimes problems are experienced when certain companies/schools/etc block java applets 21:01:41 of course, it could be that I'm having another problem entirely, and that java is working fine 21:01:52 i assume only their "Play the game inside a browser" method uses a java plugin, as the application for windows seems to be independant from java 21:02:13 have you tried running the QtDominate.exe directly? 21:03:06 ahh that makes a lot of sense. I have tried running the .exe file directly, and to no avail. So I guess it's a firewall/server connection issue of some sort 21:03:29 Thanks for your help...you at least prevented me from doing any more of the wrong searching =p 21:04:08 you're welcome, and you are right, your problem probably is firewall/proxy-related 21:04:40 sorry i can't help you with that =( we have a lot of users coming in here with these issues, and i think it's sad that nothing can be done about it 21:05:05 well to say the least, I'm impressed with your live support service 21:05:13 that's something you don't seem to see a lot of anymore :( 21:05:25 have a good rest of the day! 21:05:50 *** Dustin has quit (Quit: Page closed) 21:05:58 goodbye 21:06:04 and thanks for the compliment =) 21:12:37 *** Bloodsong has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:21:35 *** dbdii407 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:22:31 *** SrgSiler|Sleep is now known as SergentSiler 21:26:26 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 21:29:52 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 21:50:43 *** dbdii407 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:52:27 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 22:12:15 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 22:19:32 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Bye everybody) 22:41:55 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 22:41:57 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 22:46:15 *** rouilj2 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 22:49:08 *** rouilj1 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23:16:34 *** Bloodsong (~Nimbus@bas13-toronto12-1167983118.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #portableapps 23:17:00 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 23:23:45 *** Space (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 23:26:50 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 23:34:50 *** Scriptdaemon (~8bb60bc0@gateway/web/freenode/x-akvoyawpwyzsdeat) has joined #portableapps 23:35:00 ChrisMorgan: I suspect you deleted that thread? 23:35:06 If so, thank you 23:35:07 No, what thread? 23:35:47 The other Sauerbraten thread. I didn't think the author could delete it after someone already posted in it. 23:35:50 Just noticed it in the tracker before refreshing again... no, I didn't delete it, I'm nothing to do with it. 23:36:12 Ah, nvm then. 23:36:18 A thread can be deleted by its author, just not a comment. (This is probably not a good thing, I think.) 23:36:21 What was in it? 23:36:43 He posted a dev test, but I told him I was already doing one. 23:37:09 I should have a new DT soon as well, since I realize I don't have to make the launcher wait for the .exe to exit. 23:38:52 howdy all 23:40:05 Scriptdaemon: I expect you can probably also put CleanTEMP=false 23:41:19 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 23:42:31 Hmm, alright. I'll take a look at that. 23:47:01 Be back in ~30 minutes. 23:47:08 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Page closed) 23:56:58 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:57:55 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish)