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D:) 02:10:12 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 02:17:56 hai, should I stick to a 2 gb usb stick for portable apps? I used to use a 4 gb kingston , but ffp 3 ran too slow when I upgraded from ffp 2, but ffp 3 works fine on my 2 gb kingston usb drive 02:30:35 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:30:59 *** vf2nsr has quit (Client Quit) 02:50:25 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.11.192) has joined #portableapps 03:06:00 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 03:46:41 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 03:46:41 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 03:52:04 hola ChrisMorgan 03:52:10 Heya ZachThibeau 03:52:26 what's new? 03:52:52 Nothing much currently. Almost finished a web server migration, but I'm working on an assignment at Uni at the moment. 03:53:10 BPBible.com is now migrated... all mail issues and a couple of other minor points should be sorted. 03:53:35 very nice 03:53:53 AND, what's more, I'll be able to do things with Django now :-) 03:54:05 with my income tax coming in on friday, I'm thinking of migrating from wordpress to subdreamer 03:54:06 All I've got to migrate now is my own site, chrismorgan.info. 03:54:19 Never heard of that latter. 03:54:41 PHP. Bah :P 03:55:21 subdreamer has been around for sometime, it's a cms system thats comercial (used to have a free version for a while) but can easily integrate into most forums like vbull, IPB, and phpBB without modifications :) 03:55:39 It doesn't look to me like it's up to much, just looking briefly at their demo. 03:55:56 Simple, but not very powerful. 03:55:59 it's actually pretty powerful but simple enough :) 03:56:43 Give me django-cms or Drupal any day ;-) 03:57:12 I rather use joomla than drupal... oh wait I have :P 03:57:26 joomla has come a long ways but it's too much for me still 03:57:55 And it has yucky URL schemes. And it looks to use file-based actions, like WordPress, rather than a single file access point like Drupal or good routes like /anything/ with Django. 03:58:29 at least wordpress is a decent enough system 03:58:52 Wait, it's just the admin that has irksome URLs, the front has clean, just cluttered with .html for no apparent reason. 03:59:21 configured properly it could possibly stack up against drupal minus the forum 03:59:37 and my wordpress install doesn't have that issue :P 03:59:57 Drupal core, possibly. Drupal plus common modules, doesn't look like it'd compare very favourably. 04:00:27 I actually like wordpress's plugin system it's pretty dead simple and powerful 04:01:23 Whereas I'd say it's ridiculously complex and troublesome, the way I understand you have to edit PHP code in the browser. Not to mention insecure (comparatively). 04:02:06 I never had to edit php in my browser with wordpress 04:02:33 it has an option but I never use that option, it's mostly a matter of upload and click install and it works for me 04:03:23 That is as I understand it from my brother Ben who had to do some for bibleq.info to generate the verse index for the page http://bibleq.info/scripture-index/ (which seems to be broken at the moment... interesting, must report that). 04:04:25 I'm not sure how any of these PHP CMSes compare to one another for performance, but what I do know is that they fall flat beside just about /any/ configuration of /any/ Django system. Let alone one highly optimised for caching and delivery. 04:06:53 the only time I ever played with python was when I made a simple interface library for libsnes and made an emu with it 04:07:07 and I didn't like it 04:07:15 You probably didn't give it a long enough trial. 04:07:23 And you didn't try Django :-) 04:07:34 give me c++ and php or give me death 04:07:40 :P 04:08:55 *splat* 04:09:21 ZachThibeau: give Python a serious try and you'll find you don't really like PHP after a while (I don't any more) 04:09:43 far ye well cruel world I'm off to my death that is called sleep 04:09:57 G'nite ZachThibeau 04:10:03 have a good one :) 04:10:08 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|AFK 04:11:49 oh hai, what kinda usb drive do you recommend for portable apps? 04:12:00 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|Sleep 04:12:16 o.o 04:12:16 bluebell_rose: any will do, but a fast one ... is faster. 04:13:51 I'm using a kingston 2 gb, my kingston 4 gb one was ok, then when I installed ffp 3 on both, ffp ran faster on my 2 gb one, 04:43:29 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.11.192) has joined #portableapps 04:44:13 Is anyone able to do a Regshot right now? I'd do it but it keeps crashing on me. 04:44:27 Scriptdaemon, what are you /doing/ to it!? 04:44:45 Running it. 04:45:11 In the middle of getting a snapshot, comparing, whatever it'll just crash. 04:46:24 Btw, remember the registry problem aamiel had with Maxima? Someone else is having that same problem it appears, even though I thought it was fixed. 04:47:18 It's possible Gringoloco missed the registry plugin update in the rc build? 04:47:42 I compared their md5 and they matched. 04:47:59 The one in the rc and the one he linked in your thread. 04:48:15 Oh dear. 04:48:25 And you didn't build it with the wrong thing by mistake? 04:48:43 Pretty certain that I didn't. 04:49:29 I've been reusing launchers since it's a pain to generate both of them separately and getting the correct icons, etc. but I think the original launchers I did were with the rc build. 04:50:32 Reusing launchers... uh oh. 04:50:47 I think the general idea now is that we should always build per-application launchers. 04:51:22 All that it generates differently was the icon I thought? 04:51:48 I guess that could be my problem. Hurry up with 2.0 so you can add the ability to generate multiple launchers! 04:56:49 Icon and executable name. And custom code if there is any. 04:58:15 Then that shouldn't matter if I use the launchers from a previous DT? 04:58:32 Unless you've got a PAL update. 04:58:41 1.9.9.4 04:58:46 So, Beta 4. 04:59:14 And I'm pretty sure gringoloco had the rc build packaged by that time too. 04:59:21 I guess I can try it again though. 05:00:32 If in danger or in doubt, build, build again. 05:15:19 *** dboki89 (~d5c6db41@gateway/web/freenode/x-yvwlpxodhadgbdof) has joined #portableapps 05:15:42 Hi 05:15:47 any admin online? 05:15:51 Yes 05:15:59 Hi Chris :) 05:16:14 Why askest thou? 05:16:14 do you remember me reporting the "Drupal is offline" message yesterday? 05:16:20 No. 05:16:29 at around the same time as now? 05:16:41 I just saw another message, 15min ago 05:16:44 It happens from time to time, normally it's around for no more than a minute when connections drop out at the server temporarily. 05:16:51 It's nothing to worry about, really. 05:16:55 ok 05:17:03 It happens to me once every few weeks. 05:17:08 it's just that it happens at around the exact same time... 05:17:21 good if it's ok :D 05:17:21 Probably coincidence 05:17:39 That just means that it can't access its database server. 05:19:17 dboki89, I'm going to post in a comment a new potential development test for Maxima. Could you check it when I do to see if it still leaves behind the registry stuff? 05:19:23 ok. btw, I just checked the logs, it's from the other day, and it happened at the exactly 5am by the time in those logs, just FYI :) 05:19:35 Scriptdaemon: ok :) 05:19:52 Well it's not 5am now, it's 3:19pm ;-) 05:20:05 by the logs time, 5am :D 05:20:12 http://patrickpatience.com/nascent-project/portableapps/irc/logs/ 05:22:01 ChrisMorgan: 5:21 actually 05:22:02 Scriptdaemon: will the update be soon? 05:22:26 Within 5-10 minutes. 05:22:42 If you can't get to it now, I don't mind if you do it later. 05:23:46 nah, I can wait 05:24:01 I'm just checking whether to grab a bite first, or later :) 05:27:46 It's building the launcher now. 05:27:54 I'll just put it on my Dropbox and link it here. 05:27:59 installer* 05:32:04 dboki89, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1442139/Projects/MaximaPortable_5.21.1_Developement_Test_2_English.paf.exe 05:33:05 Scriptdaemon: Error 404 05:33:39 Give it like 10 more seconds. 05:33:43 Still uploading. 05:33:46 ok :) 05:33:48 oh 05:34:00 And go. 05:34:00 I thought it was uploaded, since you gave the link... :) 05:34:13 I forgot to wait for it to finish. >.> 05:34:18 ok 05:34:31 can you give me MD5 to check once DLed? 05:34:46 dboki89, why do you bother with a checksum? 05:35:07 didn't use WGet... 05:35:20 So? All download engines should do it properly. 05:35:28 And anyway, it's an NSIS installer, it has its integrity check. 05:36:11 I know, but I have a habit of checking them. I've had a couple of broken downloads in the past, and didn't check the installer right away... 05:36:28 The installer will check itself. 05:36:32 I usually store the installers localy to share with my friends who don't have Internet 05:37:25 I don't use some apps, so I check their md5s... But you're right about this particular case, my bad :P 05:37:59 e6de92d3ab8166ec3fcf8d01e0bbfec4 for the paranoid. 05:38:03 =P 05:38:39 Scriptdaemon, the paranoid wouldn't be trusting the executable at all. 05:38:56 ok, thanks :D *says the paranoid one and goes testing the app* 05:39:01 :D 05:39:15 ChrisMorgan, somewhat paranoid? 05:44:32 *** Spaceghost has quit (Quit: Leaving) 05:44:40 *** Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 05:47:32 Scriptdaemon: NO change :( 05:47:38 :( 05:47:45 those 5 entries are there 05:47:47 ChrisMorgan, something's still wrong. 05:48:01 Well, is there anything in the Data\settings directory? 05:48:16 hey, maybe do a temporery fix with a single batch-like command? If possible? 05:48:18 yea 05:48:23 brb 05:48:44 dboki89: there is no fix for it, we believe it's an issue with the registry plugin on XP SP2. 05:48:51 We'll need to ask gringoloco about it. 05:49:05 Data\settings\.xmaximarc | Data\settings\MaximaPortableSettings.ini | Data\settings\wxMaxima.reg 05:49:14 these 3 files are there 05:49:22 is one missing? 05:49:32 We're talking about the registry stuff though, aren't we? 05:49:34 Manually delete HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\wxMaxima within regedit. 05:49:45 It might just be what was leftover from before. 05:49:56 THen after deleting that, try again. 05:49:57 Nope, deleted it before 05:50:04 Hmm. 05:50:05 I ran this on a clean setup 05:50:15 I thought aamiel confirmed it was fixed. Bah. 05:51:02 I know that NSIS isn't like that, but MAYBE add a simple cmd or bat file to get created in the temp folder, like your other plugins 05:51:24 and get executed when doing cleanup 05:52:16 dboki89: no, that's not the way to do it. 05:52:38 If we're going to do that anyway, might as well figure out what's actually wrong and fix it. 05:53:17 dboki89, do you have any other machines? (particularly, not XP SP2) 05:53:33 no, 3 machines, all XP sp2 05:53:42 Why not go up to SP3? 05:54:52 when first tried, I had issues with some games being buggy on sp3 and working on sp2; why I'm still at sp2? that's a complicated story; connected to another admin I sare these machines with not wanting to update, and me not needing to 05:55:06 *share 05:55:53 I may update my Pentium 3 to sp3 though. but not today 05:56:15 it IS a test machine, after all :D 05:57:09 I just want to confirm it's only with XP SP3. 05:57:20 I guess I can delete my own settings and try it. 05:57:41 SP2 I presume you meant? 05:57:48 hint: do a backup :P :P 05:57:48 Yes. 05:58:51 Is there any other question about the RegShot? I intend to undo the changes... 06:00:29 Doesn't get left behind on 7. 06:00:33 And no, go ahead. 06:00:41 ok 06:01:17 if you want me to check anything further, I'll be back in about 10-15min 06:01:21 bye 06:01:23 *** dboki89 is now known as dboki89|AFK 06:01:50 And now the maxima process is crashing for me. 06:01:57 I'm starting to dislike Maxima. 06:13:03 I swear I tested this before I uploaded it and it was working, but now it's not. 06:19:13 I wonder... 06:21:31 It runs fine from the PA.c menu, but crashes when run from the desktop, which suggests it doesn't like directories with spaces. 06:22:21 Probably. Possibly also an issue with PAP environment variables into PAL (though I think I've got all those sorted) 06:23:21 Anything I can check while it's running from the desktop to see if anything causes it? 06:23:46 Just run it in your spaceless path without PAP. 06:25:07 It runs normally (i.e. installed to my comp), but maxima_prefix is set to C:\PROGRA~2\Maxima 06:25:14 Which is probably why they do it that way. 06:25:40 Ah. Short paths because they know they can't cope with spaces. 06:25:48 The lazy (and bad) solution. 06:25:58 Should I go bug 'em about it? 06:26:36 There might be a bug report or a few already about it. I'll investigate. 06:32:35 Ooh. Fyre Portable looks like it'll be incredibly easy to package, as there are *no* settings saved anywhere whatsoever. 06:32:57 (Except with individual graphics inside their own files) 06:33:22 Scriptdaemon: if you like that sort of app you can take a look at my Numpty Physics Portable :-) 06:34:23 Unless I'm missing something, this doesn't really seem like the same thing at all. O.o 06:36:29 Scriptdaemon: I mean in settings storage. Nothing. 06:36:37 Ah. 06:37:20 This second FIT1002 assignment is slightly more interesting than the first one... 600 lines of code, somewhere around a quarter of which are comments (still a couple of bugs to iron out but I'm almost there, this has been a very productive afternoon). 06:38:03 Anyway, Scriptdaemon, if you need it to not work when there are spaces in the path, read the manual on how to set that on :-) 06:40:17 I need to go now so that it doesn't get too dark before I get home. 06:40:58 *** dboki89|AFK is now known as dboki89 06:41:18 Alright, later. 06:41:27 bye Chris 06:43:20 Scriptdaemon: off topic - is there anu particular reason why you use dropbox.com? any good? I'm asking since I'd need an online storage like that, preferably free... 06:43:49 Free, easy, etc. As far as my open source packages, I've uploaded them to Sourceforge. 06:44:16 I keep Revo Uninstaller Portable and Speccy Portable on my dropbox since their freeware though. 06:44:21 they're* 06:46:23 ok, great :) thanks :) I don't need sourceforge, since it's not for development. It's just that I often find myself needing some particular app of mine, or files I forgot to put on the stick... 06:46:59 *by "app of mine" I don't mean that I coded it :) 06:47:13 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 06:48:02 Ah. 06:50:29 Night. 06:50:32 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 07:10:52 *** Ari_Lazarus (~shiniespl@115.131.23.197) has joined #portableapps 07:11:00 hello? 07:11:54 I've got a problem running PA on Linux.. I'm using Ubuntu Jaunty and running the latest dev branch of Wine - I keep getting the Bad EXE Format for . Any ideas what might be causing this and how to fix it? 07:16:15 *** Space (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 07:19:23 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07:19:59 I should probably look for a erm 4 gb occ rally for my apps, I got so many these days 07:20:19 *** Space is now known as Spaceghost 07:34:11 Ari_Lazarus: I can't provide you with any other help, except to try and replicate the problem. Can you tell me what program are you trying to launch under Wine? Is it the PortableApps Menu or trying to launch an app from the Menu? 07:34:44 The installer, actually. Since it's an exe, the default program to load it with is Wine. 07:34:56 This is just the platform (2mb) 07:35:02 Ok. 07:35:09 I'll try to replicate it 07:35:15 please wait a min or 2 07:35:19 sure. 07:35:57 oh, yea, which version number of the platform? 07:36:24 uh 07:36:29 is it the one from the download page here? 07:36:30 Platform Setup 1.6 07:36:32 Yup 07:36:36 ok 07:36:54 I've tried to run it in Wine 1.0.1 (stable), as well as 1.1.42 (current dev release) 07:38:54 I'm sorry, but it works with my setup... 07:39:06 Is it not launching at all? 07:40:32 I just went through the entire installing process and successfully installed it to the fake C:/ drive under Wine, as well as launched it 07:40:48 using latest beta of Wine 07:41:41 I'm tryng right now with another distro and a bit older version of Wine (1.1.3x), but still beta 07:42:38 Works also on Puppy Linux, Wine 1.1.3x ... 07:43:34 Hmm. 07:43:42 What the heck am I doing wrong. 07:44:03 Ari_Lazarus: stupid question - are .exe files set up to launch under Wine? Can you launch any other .exe files? 07:44:10 Yes 07:44:46 Then I really don't know what the issue might be... Btw, I'm not a developer here, just a user 07:44:56 Mm. 07:45:00 No matter 07:45:04 Lucid Lynx comes out tomorrow so 07:45:10 :) 07:45:12 I shall upgrade 07:45:29 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 07:45:31 Thanks for the help anyway 07:45:35 Have you tried Karmic? 07:45:40 you're welcome 07:45:52 *** rmccue has quit (Client Quit) 07:47:44 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 07:47:46 ... 07:47:52 Chris 07:47:57 I haven't 07:48:02 But mostly because I couldn't upgrade :p 07:48:04 Ari_Lazarus seem to have a problem with linux 07:48:13 and portableapps platform 07:48:28 ChrisMorgan: could you take a look into the matter? 07:49:35 I installed the Platform (1.6 and later 2.0 Beta 4) under Wine (Karmic, latest PPA build) some time ago with no issues. 07:49:47 Ari_Lazarus: have you compared the checksum to make sure it's valid? 07:49:57 Hm. 07:50:09 Let me check that. 07:51:47 Aha. 07:51:54 md5 doesn't add up 07:52:13 I'll feel so stupid now :) Forgot to even ask such a question... :P 07:52:55 Lemme download again. 07:52:55 That's twice though. 07:52:55 With the same error - I downloaded earlier. 07:53:05 Re-downloaded* 07:53:30 How big is the executable? 07:53:48 It could also be worth while taking a look at it in a text editor to see if it looks about right. 07:54:58 Executable seems to be 1436564 bytes large 07:55:05 Well, something isn't quite right! 07:56:05 Which version are you getting? 07:56:16 The one on the homepage 07:56:23 You might like to try 2.0 Beta 4 and see if it works. 07:56:23 I click the big red button for platform only 07:56:35 Shouldn't the size be 2 megs though? 07:57:47 That's an approximation, I'm not certain what exactly it is. 07:57:54 But anyway, you may as well try the 2.0 Beta 4 release. 07:58:02 Okie dokie 07:58:29 Just jumping in again... beta is at http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_2.0_Beta_4.exe?download 07:59:36 cheers 08:01:31 FYI: my linux is reporting the file size of Platform 1.6 (which works) to be the size of 1798888 bytes 08:03:38 I have no idea what happened 08:03:45 But the RC seems to work 08:03:49 I'm installing it on my stick now :D 08:04:01 You can has all my Internets ^_^ 08:06:41 Good :-) 08:17:04 *** Kokswijk (~a48c2a01@gateway/web/freenode/x-nxcmbltlkntillsg) has joined #portableapps 08:17:06 Hi mates! 08:17:17 any admin / developer / someone who i can spill my app ideas to? 08:18:07 well it seems everyone is sleeping :P maybe its a different timezone, or you guys are just lazy! ;) 08:19:24 Anyway, i use the program CCleaner and defraggler + Recuva a lot. (respectively, pc cleaning tool, defrag tool and deletion recovery tool). they seem quite simple and they are freeware. might be something to add in collaboration with the owner. 08:19:53 they dont web themselves into your system. 08:22:38 I'm no dev nor admin, but you can "spill your app ideas" freely... As for CCLeaner (and other apps) 08:22:51 Piriform have them in portable versions on their website 08:23:36 they do? piriform +1 then ;) still integrate them together would be beneficial for portable apps and piriform imho 08:24:07 CCleaner (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds); Defragler (http://www.piriform.com/defraggler/builds) 08:24:56 and Recuva (http://www.piriform.com/recuva/builds) 08:25:32 can't integrate together due to their licensing 08:25:44 freeware doesn't mean it's distributable 08:26:11 so its something that piriform should decide to want to support then? 08:26:13 not in their case, at least. Every "freeware" license is different 08:27:06 oh, didn't see your last post 08:27:20 yea, Piriform would have to grant their permission to PortableApps 08:28:58 Up to now, Piriform hasn't provided such a permission to ANY website. If you find any website that hosts "RecuvaPortable", or even just "Recuva", they are doing it illegally, and without the permission of the authors (Piriform) 08:31:27 well i just sent an email that i enjoy their program, and portableapps, to piriform. and noted it could be benificial for both initiatives to collaborate. so ill just wait and see! :) 08:32:51 thank you for doing so. I just checked, and I provided you with a bit of misinformation (sorry, my bad). Those links I provided, they DO point to portable versions, but not in the same format PortableApps distributes apps... It's still portable and good for using :) 08:34:23 any other suggestions? 08:34:43 I got more questions 08:34:47 Not sure about suggestions :p 08:35:47 When using Truecrypt in association with PA, do I put the entire contents of my disk into the virtual file? 08:36:14 Ari_Lazarus: I was talking to Kokswijk... shoot away, maybe Chris is still watching 08:36:29 depends 08:36:37 what do you want encrypted? 08:37:05 Pretty much everything on the stick 08:37:51 In short, if you don't have a problem of not having admin access, then you can put everything inside, except for the TrueCryptPortable, or FreeOTFEPortable, depending on which you choose 08:39:06 also, TrueCrypt Explorer, and FreeOTFELauncher Portable respectivelly, should be left outside the virtual volume for accessing your files when not having Admin access 08:39:42 Is that part of the standard package? 08:39:51 what? 08:39:59 Truecrypt Explorer 08:40:00 Explorer? 08:40:01 no 08:40:09 it's a separate project 08:40:11 dboki89: you mean tc_explorer and FreeOTFE Explorer 08:40:22 I'm back from tea now. 08:40:27 yea, my bad (typo) 08:40:30 Is there a functional difference between the two? 08:40:53 2 big differences 08:41:02 Ari_Lazarus: one is for TrueCrypt, the other is for FreeOTFE 08:41:26 1 is FreeOTFE has an active support for it's Explorer version, while TrueCrypt doesn't. 08:41:34 ah. 08:41:44 2 is TrueCrypt uses digitally signed drivers 08:41:51 FreeOTFE doesn't 08:42:11 digitally signed drivers mean easy install on Vista or Windows Seven 08:43:12 Kokswijk: negotiations are going on with Piriform. 08:43:24 ah nice! 08:43:31 Ari_Lazarus: However, I've been in active contact with the developer of FreeOTFE Sarah Dean about translations of her programs 08:43:50 and she told me she'll get her drivers signed, whether for the next version, or the one after that 08:43:58 I'm fine with Truecrypt 08:44:00 :D 08:44:07 That's cool :D 08:44:13 ChrisMorgan: Well lets hope they appriciate my email about the subject ;) 08:44:30 I've heard it mentioned that tc_explorer doesn't support the latest TrueCrypt format any more, not sure if that's true. 08:45:01 yea, I heard it as well 08:45:03 But be aware that you can't run executables from either via their explorer programs, only with installing the driver (which needs admin) 08:45:44 they (TrueCrypt) changed their layout of volumes, and the TC Explorer can't read the new header, just the old one 08:46:09 although, you're fine as long as you encrypt in the old format 08:46:13 And tc_explorer is a fairly dead program? 08:46:19 yap 08:48:11 Bye 08:48:51 Bye :) 08:49:41 Ari_Lazarus: here's the link for TC Explorer 08:49:44 http://sourceforge.net/projects/tcexplorer/ 08:50:38 But maybe you should read the comments first, before using it 08:52:04 ok 08:53:09 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08:54:23 Ltrs dude, thnx for the feedback 08:54:30 *** Kokswijk has quit (Quit: Page closed) 09:00:08 * dboki89 will be absent for a few minutes. If anybody needs me, type "dboki89:" (without the quotes) at the begining of your message... 09:21:43 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 09:23:49 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 09:24:07 *** rmccue has quit (Client Quit) 09:29:20 * dboki89 is back 09:33:50 *** Twinkletoes|W is now known as Guest48401 09:34:07 *** Twinkletoes|W_ (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 09:35:14 *** Guest48401 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:37:39 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 09:58:01 *** dboki89 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 10:10:40 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 10:19:19 *** pa_8906 (~5a37a77d@gateway/web/freenode/x-caxyzfbeztybsizm) has joined #portableapps 10:45:46 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... 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Because I do trust PortableApps.com 13:14:05 anybody 13:16:44 checking 13:17:13 Because I dont wante to have any legel problems 13:17:40 i'm not sure 13:17:49 most of their apps seem open-source 13:22:16 Ok But I did read about the software called KMPlayer on PortableApps.com Forums about making it Portable. And the news did not look good. Like maybe http://portableapps.com/node/7170 13:22:37 And they have a porable version 13:22:43 on Codyssey 13:26:40 I am gonna go now. But thanks for your help 13:26:48 bye 13:26:55 *** Drive-Dude has quit (Quit: Page closed) 13:27:09 bye, sorry i couldn't be of more assistance 13:36:17 *** Ashhh is now known as board 13:36:19 *** board is now known as Ashhh 13:50:02 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@pD9E26AA4.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 14:26:02 *** SteveLamerton (~kvirc@137.205.140.236) has joined #portableapps 14:31:45 Hello all 14:32:02 *** StatBot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14:32:34 *** Bensawsome has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:33:20 Hey SteveLamerton :) 14:33:28 Hi Horusofoz 14:33:51 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 14:33:51 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 14:33:58 Auto-Message: palogbot has been restarted. 14:34:07 * Horusofoz pours a beer for the genius inventor of Toucan The Mighty :) 14:34:56 Cheers Horusofoz :) Hoping to get Toucan 3 finally sorted and release in the next couple of weeks and I am part of the Google Summer of Code this year! 14:36:48 *** Guest84836 (~Bensawsom@c-71-235-7-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 14:37:04 *** Twinkletoes|W_ has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1.4/20091028075816]) 14:37:08 *** StatBot (~StatBot@c-71-235-7-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 14:37:08 *** StatBot has quit (Changing host) 14:37:08 *** StatBot (~StatBot@unaffiliated/bensawsome/bots/bensbots) has joined #portableapps 14:39:40 SteveLamerton: Not sure if this was alread documented but I found when I installed Toucan3 it wiped out all my previous jobs :( 14:40:03 Jobs or Scripts? 14:42:21 Horusofoz: Also if you look in the data directory there should be a file called jobs.old, they should be safe in there 14:46:30 Unfortunately in a moment of frustration at the end of trying to recreate my jobs in 3 I deleted the app and reverted to 2.13. What's worse is now that you say it I remember the .old backup as it had saved me in the past :( 14:57:07 Nite peeps :) 14:59:52 *** SteveLamerton has quit () 15:00:37 *** Horusofoz has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 15:04:19 *** Bloodsong (~Nimbus@bas2-barrie18-1279301444.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #portableapps 15:19:37 *** soegel (~soegel@p548C3E4C.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 15:24:29 *** rouilj has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:41:49 *** soegel has parted #portableapps (None) 15:53:42 *** Spaceghost has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:07:16 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau 16:14:38 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@188.88.111.126) has joined #portableapps 16:27:38 @Gringoloco: Do you think it would be useful to write some piece of NSIS that tries out the functionality of the Unicode Registry plugin and creates a report which could be posted in the forums? So it might be easier to get more feedback in order to solve the XP issue. 16:29:43 benedikt93: I'm on to it, It's not really the NSIS code, I like to get some registry plugins compiled with each a different setup, to test 16:30:24 I'm just wondering if I should include compiled version of different compilers 16:30:51 Is there anybody who good give me an answer if the compiler could make the difference 16:32:35 I can't really tell you, but I think it might be possible as the binary output won't be always the same. 16:32:41 But I'm not even that sure if we do really have a problem, aamiel confirmed it fixed before... 16:33:24 I might be able to test it on my fathers PC, but I'm not sure and don't when (if) 16:33:39 *don't know when 16:33:40 and again the problem happend just in the maxima launcher 16:33:46 for now anyway 16:33:50 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 16:33:55 hola 16:34:09 hi 16:34:09 Does your father haveXP sp2 ? 16:34:18 No, XP SP3 16:34:33