00:00:46 *** pa_4754 (~4d31653f@gateway/web/freenode/x-vodpykgtyfctaqvu) has joined #portableapps 00:01:01 *** pa_4754 has quit (Client Quit) 00:13:37 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 00:13:39 ChrisMorgan is a PortableApps.com developer and moderator and works on the PortableApps.com Launcher (please test it!) 00:13:42 *** Kyle__ (~Kyle@69.182.53.209) has joined #portableapps 00:14:24 *** Kyle__ is now known as SergentSiler 00:14:36 *** SergentSiler has quit (Changing host) 00:14:36 *** SergentSiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 00:14:37 SergentSiler is a PortableApps.com Menu Themer, his theme website is http://silerhost.site50.net 00:19:22 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 00:21:23 *** excid3|asus1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00:39:07 Arg... it's being very troublesome setting up for gringoloco on this new host, it's not designed to deal with this sort of use case. :-( 00:40:51 huh? 00:44:22 ZachThibeau: handling extra users with WebFaction is just done by creating new users on the system; then they can go in to their home directory with SFTP. It's not the cPanel way of creating a purely-FTP account limited to a subdirectory somewhere. It's a much better way of doing it, but a little less useful for this situation. 00:44:54 *** excid3|asus1 (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 00:45:58 *** excid3|asus has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00:46:45 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 01:21:34 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:21:52 Evening All 01:22:21 G'morning vf2nsr 01:22:51 :) Some how I new you would say that 01:23:03 you see my response to you I.E. Lupo? 01:23:08 *** ZachThibeau_ (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:23:22 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Disconnected by services) 01:23:38 *** ZachThibeau_ is now known as ZachThibeau 01:25:19 Hmm... not sure how I managed to miss that. I searched for some of the keywords but didn't find things? 01:25:56 yay cpanel install is done ^_^ 01:26:19 Erk, cPanel! WebFaction's panel is soooo much nicer ;-) 01:26:44 Wonder how fast DNS propagation will be for chrismorgan.info. I switched it a few minutes ago... 01:27:48 bpbible.com was the slowest I've seen before; over 12 hours before it got to me reliably (though www.bpbible.com and bpbible.com at different times switched back and forth at times - individually - in a most strange way). 01:28:48 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:29:39 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 01:34:53 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 02:33:02 *** Mir__ is now known as Mir 02:41:03 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 02:42:14 *** excid3|asus1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03:08:30 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 03:08:34 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@188.90.69.153) has joined #portableapps 03:15:24 Good morning... 03:17:12 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 03:31:11 *** gluxon|gone has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 03:42:10 Gringoloco: you haven't put any new files up to my website in the last week or so, have you? 03:43:33 ChrisMorgan: No, I read about it in the logs... 03:43:38 Good, thanks. 03:43:45 DNS propagation is now happening. 03:44:22 So by tomorrow you should be able to log in. I'm sending you the details now. 03:44:32 Actually I have been using skydrive, the last few days 03:45:12 I noticed that 03:45:26 The URLs are horrible compared to a direct system :P 03:45:51 Yes, but the rest is better then MediaFire 03:46:29 I would expect it to be. It still requires you to go via a download page though, doesn't it? 03:46:45 No direct. 03:47:35 Ahh, it broke my lijk 03:47:38 link 03:48:09 Thats not very direct... 03:48:50 Understandable. They want people to see the ads and whatnot. 03:49:15 What client were you using before for uploading to my site? FileZilla? 03:50:34 With WebFaction I get full SFTP support so you'll need to use an SFTP-compatible client. FileZilla will work, WinSCP will also now work. 03:50:34 FileZilla, it works great 03:51:36 Good. 03:51:48 ChrisMorgan: Do you agree with : ExecWait regedit.exe 03:51:55 Definitely. 03:52:09 For myself I think I'll just mount it with sshfs. 03:52:28 sshfs ? 03:53:17 It's a *nix thing. 03:53:43 Looks like I should just be able to mount the SFTP directory like that. Which is an idea I like. 03:54:18 ChrisMorgan: Why are you doing that errorflag handling in RegistryKeys.nsh at restoring the key 03:54:57 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.11.192) has joined #portableapps 03:55:18 Anyone know anything about macros/scripts/etc. in OpenOffice.org and/or Excel? 03:55:35 Scriptdaemon: Google does ;-) 03:55:57 Google isn't much of a help with what I want to do. 03:56:25 Gringoloco: you mean lines 42-44? 03:56:33 Scriptdaemon: what /do/ you want to do? 03:56:47 Just adding formulas ? 03:57:27 I have a timesheet in a spreadsheet, and I want to generate a calendar based on a given month/year. I *have* the code in C++ (from stuff I've done a long time ago), but I don't know what would be the best option. 03:57:31 Gringoloco: it's there so that when the key couldn't be put into the registry it doesn't throw away its settings to get probably nothing from the registry. 03:57:51 Scriptdaemon: generate a calendar? I wrote an algorithm for that in FIT1029 assignment 2... 03:57:58 Easy way: use Inkscape ;-) 03:58:12 Extensions -> Render -> Calendar or something like that 03:58:21 ChrisMorgan: lines 16 & 23 & 26 , in preprimary I am talking ! 03:58:37 In a spreadsheet? It's also based very specifically on the layout of cells. 03:59:13 Scriptdaemon: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/150774 03:59:17 sorry 18 03:59:18 Gringoloco: lines 18/23/26 I presume you mean 04:00:15 Google dislikes me. 04:00:46 Scriptdaemon: I searched for "excel macro draw calendar" 04:00:49 I think I can fuss around with this code a bit and get it to generate the calendar in the order I want. 04:01:03 18: SetErrors: say that import has not worked yet. Then try it and on line 23 if it has succeeded, clear errors as it has worked. Then line 26, if error - if it has failed to import - then mark it as such 04:01:24 nsExec::Exec reg.exe doesn't affect the error flag, though 04:01:33 Pop $R9 04:01:46 Then if $R9 = 0, it worked. 04:01:56 Does OO.o allow VB? 04:01:58 nsExec::Exec pushes the return code to the stack 04:02:14 Scriptdaemon: it uses some form of Basic, I haven't ever gone into it in detail 04:02:14 Scriptdaemon: Doubt it. 04:02:30 I'll have to do this on Monday then. 04:02:33 Implement* 04:02:34 I've got a feeling I heard something about it being compatible but that may not be accurate. 04:02:40 So if you have result in $R9 anyway, why to play with the error flag yourself, I do not get it ? 04:03:24 Gringoloco: not sure. That's just the way I did it. 04:03:32 And in my opinion it's a tad clearer. 04:04:16 Scriptdaemon: if you need to do it in OO.o, change the search to "calc macro draw calendar" 04:05:42 Or there's a document on how to convert them... http://www.programminglearn.com/291/porting-excelvba-to-calcstarbasic 04:05:48 63 pages of it :P 04:05:56 ChrisMorgan, oh, I had a question for you. Suppose %USERPROFILE% is saved in a settings file. How do I change that on next run? I know how to change the drive, but what about the rest of the directory that's computer-specific. 04:06:15 2.1 04:06:26 :) 04:06:48 ChrisMorgan: I just tested again, nsexec undoes the error flag being set 04:07:00 No wonder It doesn't work on Wine 04:07:11 Hmm. That might explain something. 04:10:16 Can I also replace Registry::RestoreKey with an ExecWait? It would be this, wouldn't it: ExecWait '"$WINDIR\system32\regedit.exe" /s "$DataDirectory\settings\$0.reg"' $R9 04:11:44 Still trying to fix stuff for XP SP2? 04:12:13 According to MSDN CreateProcess(), it will search for the executable it in the PATH env.var.! 04:12:37 Scriptdaemon: no, just general registry import cleanup to make sure it'll work everywhere. 04:12:37 So no need for the whole path ! 04:13:14 If you do not trust it, you can use searchpath ! 04:13:24 I knew about that. Getting rid of it with regedit.exe is OK, but with reg.exe I'm a little bit leery of it as it's plausible that something else could have it. 04:14:11 And it'll always be in $WINDIR\system32 anyway. But I'm just trying to remember something about executing things in sys32 on x64... 04:14:26 ah, ok, if there would be another file with the same name, you mean 04:16:01 Yeah. 04:16:05 ChrisMorgan, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64#Registry_and_file_system 04:16:17 Scriptdaemon: yes, I was just reading back on it. 04:16:29 I think executing regedit as just regedit without a path will be OK. 04:16:46 ChrisMorgan: What about using ExecDos plug-in for reg.exe, instead of nsexec ? 04:16:49 But I'll leave reg with the full path. I don't think it will harm. 04:18:25 Yes do leave the .reg file with the full path. 04:18:32 No, the reg.exe path 04:19:54 I think the use of nsExec there is a left-over from when nsExec was used for everything. 04:20:31 That's the only spot where it is still used. 04:20:55 ChrisMorgan: http://portableapps.com/node/21879#comment-136685 04:21:28 http://portableapps.com/node/23438#comment-148537 04:21:31 *** Spaceghost has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:21:42 *** Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 04:23:30 Isn't that SearchPath stuff is unnecessary? 04:24:24 I think so, just wasn't intirely sure, and I was happy finding a new command ;-) 04:24:37 ExecDos::exec `"$WINDIR\system32\reg.exe" import "$DataDirectory\settings\$0.reg"` "" "" 04:25:01 I have been testing with the above line, no issues 04:25:08 But why not just ExecWait? 04:25:41 for reg.exe, it's not silent that way 04:25:59 Oh sorry, I didn't notice that was reg rather than regedit :-/ 04:26:01 Poping up a command prompt window, a bit ugly 04:26:06 Yep 04:26:55 I use SearchPath once in PAL, for finding Java. 04:28:39 It was also, cause the C script was using SearchPath ( unnecessary) 04:29:23 I've pushed two changes to use $R9 and ExecDos instead of the error flag and nsExec. 04:29:25 I just wasn't a 100% sure about leaving it out, and it can't hurt 04:29:52 It will hurt performance slightly. 04:30:33 Think of it this way: when you execute a command in Command Prompt it just does exactly the same thing as Exec, and the same with Win+R. 04:30:56 CreateProcess() 04:32:21 Yep. 04:32:27 And it doesn't need a full path. 04:44:12 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 04:50:26 *** Mir has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:53:15 *** Mir (~Mir@pool-71-109-235-221.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 04:57:09 ChrisMorgan: Does restoring key work now for wine ? 04:57:22 Gringoloco: haven't tested it yet. 04:58:59 Working on my current FIT1029 assignment which is due on Monday or Wednesday. 05:12:23 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 05:39:07 *** rmccue has quit (Quit: The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two") 05:39:18 Gringoloco: arg, all in http://cid-310d23d32bc8218e.skydrive.live.com/ is broken in Firefox as it reports that it's XML but they haven't escaped < in their Javascript... 05:48:53 *** JacobMastel-Away has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05:51:40 ChrisMorgan: I Can't login with FileZilla ? 05:52:35 Gringoloco: propagation is not yet complete, until it is you can use the host name duonex.webfactional.com and files will be visible in gringoloco.chrismorgan.duonex.webfactional.com 05:54:12 *** JacobMastel (~Miranda@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 05:54:41 *** JacobMastel has quit (Client Quit) 05:57:10 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 05:57:59 *** rmccue has quit (Client Quit) 06:25:03 *** excid3|asus has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:26:53 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 06:34:53 *** excid3|asus has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:36:24 *** excid3|asus1 (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 06:36:51 *** excid3|asus2 (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 06:40:44 *** excid3|asus1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06:47:46 *** excid3|asus2 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:51:25 *** taneth111 (~TaffinFox@CPE-58-168-121-209.lns3.ken.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps 06:51:51 why hello everyone 06:54:11 because 06:54:52 k 06:55:29 Hey Chris, quick question: I just got given a second hand PC, what should I do with it? 06:56:07 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:57:23 *** Suiseiseki (desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 06:57:41 taneth111: depends, is it worth while keeping? 06:57:57 Don't know quite why you ask me... 06:58:10 512MB ram, 40GB HDD, 2.8GHZ CPU 06:58:38 I've been trying to think of something to do with it, but I've got no ideas, so I thought the internet could help :P 07:00:53 2.8GHz of what type? P4? 07:01:42 yep 07:10:49 *** mtthw92 (~mtthw92@c-67-171-44-98.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 07:18:15 taneth111: Stick some more ram in it, and should be fine to go 07:20:48 Gringoloco: I /think/ that vintage would be DDR memory (oh dear, my memory is fading...), DDR memory tends to be a *lot* more expensive than DDR2. 07:22:20 He has to check, I bought 512MB for P4 for 10 euro second-hand, not sure which DDR it was anymore 07:22:40 6 months ago 07:23:12 Yeah, it's DDR 07:24:23 512MB is really becoming insufficient to do anything these days... 07:25:26 Yeah, but I don't really need to set it up as a PC because I already have a laptop. So I want to turn it into a server or something... 07:32:27 Overclock it and see how long it takes to go bang! 07:39:52 hmm... I'm doing some reading on it and apparantly the CPU is 3.2 but all my tests have read 2.8, so it must be underclocked for some reason... 07:40:31 Reading on the model? 07:41:05 "Models" have tended to have ridiculously varying CPU speeds, memory quantities, disk spaces... especially laptops but desktop machines too. 07:41:06 Nah, on the net 07:41:18 I mean reading about that particular model. 07:46:51 Hmm... The actual CPU has 2.8 on it, so someone must have swapped it or ordered it with a slower CPU 07:46:58 *2.8 written on it 07:50:49 *** Ashhh has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07:50:56 *** Ashhh (~Ashhh@nv-71-49-134-199.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #portableapps 07:50:57 *** Ashhh has quit (Changing host) 07:50:57 *** Ashhh (~Ashhh@unaffiliated/ashhh) has joined #portableapps 08:46:19 *** Horusofoz (~Horusofoz@219-90-232-47.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 08:46:38 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps (None) 08:46:42 *** Horusofoz1 (~Jeffrey_S@219-90-232-47.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 08:46:46 *** Horusofoz1 has parted #portableapps (None) 08:48:15 *** Horusofoz (~Horusofoz@219-90-232-47.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 08:48:47 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps (None) 09:23:26 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:23:45 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@188.90.94.110) has joined #portableapps 09:23:55 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09:32:21 *** Gringoloco_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09:38:18 *** ChrisMorgan1 (~ChrisMorg@c114-76-0-175.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 09:38:34 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 09:46:56 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.141.170.59) has joined #portableapps 10:15:54 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@94.157.178.28) has joined #portableapps 10:17:14 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:28:16 *** mtthw92 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 11:09:25 *** probono (~probono@88.130.192.156) has joined #portableapps 11:09:49 *** probono has parted #portableapps ("Verlassend") 11:14:59 *** Gringoloco_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11:18:36 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@95.98.226.253) has joined #portableapps 11:19:16 Ok, last attempt... 11:23:27 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 11:24:09 Hi sar3th 11:25:30 Gringoloco: router problems? 11:26:36 It's not a router, it's somekind of UMTS usb-stick 11:26:37 hello Gringoloco 11:27:20 very unstable, especially in the day time, and it's making my usb-ports to crash all the time so I have to reboot 11:27:47 wow, that sucks. I had a SATA HDD fail on me today when I was trying to set up my server. 11:28:24 did it die ? 11:31:43 I got given an ex-work PC today, and I was going to make it into a server but the HDD is dead :/ 11:32:39 it's alright for 3 years old though: 512MB ram, 2.8GHz CPU, (did have) 40GB SATA HDD 11:35:24 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@95.98.181.231) has joined #portableapps 11:35:46 But you have to feel sorry for me too, abit 11:36:32 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11:36:43 definitely 11:37:35 is it under warranty or anything? 11:42:52 Probably there is a warranty, concerning the crashes of my usb-ports. But about the conection, I presume i have to live with it as I got the cheapest contract 11:43:38 Ah 11:43:50 20 euros a month for unlimited mobile internet, is not to much to expect of 11:44:06 yeah 11:44:37 Anyway, probably another month and I'll be moving to somewhere I can get a proper land-connection 11:44:58 *** Kafkarudo (irssi@r186-48-13-150.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) has joined #portableapps 11:45:00 sweet. In australia our internet speeds are pretty poor 11:45:28 Why is that? 11:46:34 Because Telstra owns the market, and all of the actual backhaul, so they can charge whatever they want for whatever they feel like, which happens to be lots for bad speed 11:46:43 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11:47:16 I've got a 1500k connection atm with an 11GB cap, and it's about $65 a month 11:47:31 But there is worse prices 11:47:58 That's criminal 11:48:09 yeah 11:49:54 But check out this: 10GB of data over a wireless connection like yours cost $120 11:50:02 How much is $65 Australian in euros/U.S. dollars 11:50:08 and that's not including the card 11:50:29 about 45 euros 11:51:40 Hmm, no my stick + simcard where for free, included with the contract of a year 11:51:52 that's not too bad 11:52:54 it costs another $300 for the stick in aus. so all up wireless net would be looking like 210 euros + 85 euros a month. 11:54:28 I will never complain again...;-) 11:55:23 I don't mind people complaining, it makes me realise that if I go overseas internet will be relatively cheap =P 12:06:53 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 12:10:12 *** taneth111 has quit (Quit: BYE.) 12:16:39 *** Horusofoz (~Jeffrey_S@219-90-232-47.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 12:16:53 Hey all :) 12:17:10 Is there any current discussion going on? 12:19:40 I guess not. That's good. I'm seeking ot advice and didn't want to interrupt any discusson 12:21:53 I'm trying to include a check for any partitions present on a drive in a batch script. At the moment I can only think of using an if exist *.* command but I realised this won't cover the situation where there may be a partition present with no files. Can anyone advise this budding dev ;) 12:27:52 Horusofoz: I'm not very formiliar with batch scripts 12:28:57 Would there be a command to do a 'FindFirst' & 'FindNext' file 12:30:32 Not sure. The if exist *.* should cover any files being present on the drive however I am think to check if there are any partitions present 12:31:39 ok, but findfirst/next usually finds . / .. as well, I'm not sure you get the dots in the root aswell, though 12:32:23 Probably not.. 12:32:58 I'm not familiar with the command so will start googling 12:33:23 And what about writing a temporary dummy file and then check if exists 12:35:42 I'm assuming that means if no partition exists then the dummy file won't be written demonstrating no partition exists when dummy file is not found? 12:36:30 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 12:36:31 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 12:36:54 morning folks 12:37:30 Evening ZachThibeau 12:38:18 ZachThibeau: All most done for PChat translation 12:38:33 Gringoloco_: excellent thanks 12:38:46 Gringoloco_: I've just found this snippet which looks like it could perform the check succinctly. Can you check against what you know? 12:38:46 IF NOT EXIST F:\NUL goto NOT_EXIST 12:39:43 Horusofoz: Ask ZachThibeau , I really do not have any experience with the command prompt 12:40:00 or batch files 12:40:03 Gringoloco_: Ok. Thanks for trying :) 12:40:20 hey don't put it on me I'm not a windows command line geek :P if it were linux that maybe yes 12:40:42 sorry 12:41:19 most stuff I do in the windows command line is mostly to do with mingw :P 12:42:49 I just learned I even am able to set a environment variable in a batch file 12:43:21 lol thats fairly easy :P SET NAMEOFVAR=blahblah 12:43:33 ZachThibeau: I'm trying to include a check for any partitions present on a drive in a batch script. I thought of using an if exist *.* command but I realised this won't cover the situation where there may be a partition present with no files. I've since found this snippet - http://pastebin.com/vkjbAdSF - which I think may serve the purpose. Can you confirm? 12:44:04 sorry I don't know that much 12:44:15 k thanks anyway 12:44:17 I just know enough to do the stuff I want to do 12:45:07 Horusofoz: Just run it and see what happens... 12:45:33 Installing Virtualbox now to do just that :) 12:46:19 Virtualbox?? why, I do not expect that much could go wrong 12:46:26 in that case good bye until you finish installing virtualbox :P it messes with the network when you are first installing a fresh copy of virtual box (at least for me it does) 12:46:33 *** Horusofoz1 (~Jeffrey_S@219-90-232-47.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 12:46:45 lol guess I was right :P 12:47:00 ? 12:47:31 in that case good bye until you finish installing virtualbox :P it messes with the network when you are first installing a fresh copy of virtual box (at least for me it does) 12:47:31 * Horusofoz1 (~Jeffrey_S@219-90-232-47.ip.adam.com.au) has joined #portableapps 12:47:42 ;) 12:48:18 Does it always display that much info when I sign in? 12:48:47 yup, did you register for a vhost mask? 12:49:18 Haven't heard of one :( 12:49:50 first of did you register your nickname with freenode? 12:49:56 yes 12:50:17 *** Horusofoz has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12:51:27 ok then change to your nick and head into #freenode and ask about getting a vhost mask 12:53:28 bbl 12:53:29 *** Horusofoz1 has parted #portableapps (None) 13:03:12 *** ChrisMorgan1 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13:08:35 *** Horusofoz (~Jeffrey_S@unaffiliated/horusofoz) has joined #portableapps 13:10:01 Hi ZachThibeau. Can you confirm if that info is still displayed when I entered? 13:10:14 yup info still present 13:11:32 :( 13:12:33 Horusofoz: Can I give some feedback on your batch script 13:13:52 I haven't really done anything to it. Just been sidetracked with this IRC cloaking and trying to find a way to boot from a USB in VirtualBox so I can test the script before I edit it 13:22:07 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps (None) 13:22:09 *** Horusofoz (~Jeffrey_S@unaffiliated/horusofoz) has joined #portableapps 13:22:24 Can confirm if that info is Still displayed? 13:30:06 ZachThibeau: Can you confirm if info is still displayed please? 13:32:50 unaffiliated/horusofoz is now set 13:33:07 Elaborate? 13:36:42 there is nothing to elaborate, it just means your ip etc is now hidden 13:38:06 Oh. Sorry I didn't understand that from your comment. Thank you for your help :) 13:38:28 np 13:41:07 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 13:51:55 *** Horusofoz has parted #portableapps (None) 14:15:42 ZachThibeau: translation send 14:41:28 *** andreasma (~andi@p4FE4D926.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 14:51:52 *** Guest72928 is now known as marlop 15:10:19 *** Gringoloco_ is now known as Gringoloco 15:26:19 *** Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 15:29:14 *** Kafkarudo has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15:38:29 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@pD9E25AD9.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 16:18:39 *** pa_9442 (~46f618fc@gateway/web/freenode/x-tpsntiyyvupmrwfm) has joined #portableapps 16:19:22 is there any way to force an app I have insalled to show up on the portableapps menu? 16:19:45 *** FireFox (~firefox@ppp-70-246-24-252.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined #portableapps 16:22:05 pa_9442: Just place it in a new folder with in the PortableApps folder, and Menu->options->refresh app icons 16:22:30 yeah, it isnt showing up though :/ 16:24:31 pa_9442: X:\PortableApps\AnyName\AnyName.exe does it for me 16:25:54 right, but the launcher exe is in a subfolder 16:26:47 It has to be, PortableAppsFormat. Can't see why that should be a problem though? 16:28:58 pa_9442: I think I didn't read your initial post well(again), did you download from this site? 16:29:06 no, no 16:29:29 just an app im fiddling with 16:29:38 would like to be able to launch it from the menu 16:29:49 Ok, no worries, so I did understand well. 16:30:10 And can you? 16:30:17 nope :P 16:30:23 it doesnt show up 16:30:43 unless I move the exe to the main folder 16:30:53 which doesnt allow the app to function 16:31:35 main as in PortableApps folder ? 16:32:24 main as in the main folder for the app 16:32:37 within the portableapps folder 16:34:53 Is this app supposed to run portably ? 16:36:42 yes, it is fully capable of doing so 16:37:33 Is there any other folders belonging to the app, like a data folder? 16:38:45 Gringoloco, enter -ot, just a sec 16:38:56 -ot 16:39:23 #portableapps-ot 16:39:38 #portableapps -ot 16:39:48 lol. 16:39:56 #portableapps-ot 16:40:02 Hmmm 16:40:34 /join #portableapps-ot 16:45:39 pa_9442: Maybe you should have a look at this http://portableapps.com/node/20498 16:47:21 hmm, might work.. I'll fiddle with ith later, thanks 16:47:32 it* 16:47:41 *** pa_9442 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 16:54:36 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16:54:49 *** benedikt93 has parted #portableapps (None) 17:08:26 *** Mir has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17:08:39 *** Mir (~Mir@pool-71-109-235-221.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 17:17:45 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 17:23:38 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17:30:25 *** Mir has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17:30:45 *** Mir (~Mir@pool-71-109-235-221.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 17:37:14 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 18:24:35 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@95.99.67.228) has joined #portableapps 18:34:30 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-35.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 18:43:35 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:46:00 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 18:50:33 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 19:05:11 Wow. http://handyripper.com/portable.php 19:05:17 they have one in PAF format 19:05:20 free or buuy 19:05:23 buy* 19:07:39 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 19:17:12 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19:18:47 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@95.99.67.228) has joined #portableapps 19:19:19 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@pD9513B8A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:23:08 *** SergentSiler has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:24:53 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:26:55 hi gluxon 19:27:04 Hey marlop :) 19:29:54 how are you? 19:33:09 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 19:36:20 marlop: Good, thank you, you? :) 19:39:12 me too :D 19:39:30 :) 19:39:48 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: brb, switch to windows.) 19:45:22 *** Mir_ (~Mir@pool-71-109-235-221.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 19:45:50 *** Mir has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19:50:44 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 19:50:45 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:03:35 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@188.90.40.126) has joined #portableapps 20:06:44 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:07:05 *** Gringoloco_ is now known as Gringoloco 20:09:57 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 20:18:08 *** dboki89 (~d5c6db41@gateway/web/freenode/x-stqcjzubkerlmmyy) has joined #portableapps 20:19:39 Gringoloco: Hi. 20:19:47 Gringoloco: are you here? 20:20:07 Hi dboki89 how are you 20:20:20 great :) thanks for asking 20:20:37 it's been a holiday in my country, so I've rewind my mind a little :D 20:20:48 but, that;s not why I'm here 20:21:07 listen, what could be the same with sandboxie and my settings on xp sp2? 20:21:25 I've had access to my friends win 7 laptop today 20:21:40 so I tried something I've seen in sandboxie\ 20:22:17 I noticed that, the same as those files were left on my REAL system, they were noticed when using sandboxie + sandboxie addon called sanddiff 20:22:28 sorry, not files - reg keys 20:22:54 so, I tried using sandboxie + sanddiff on his system 20:23:22 which is pretty much clean (he spen most of his money on OS and laptop right now, the programs will come at the next salary...) 20:23:41 so, pretty much a clean install of win 7 20:23:42 What just the the same values again 20:23:53 under sandboxie + sanddiff, yes 20:23:56 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:23:57 BUT 20:24:12 if I tried the program for real (outside of sandboxie) 20:24:23 those settings were not left at all! 20:24:37 what are your thoughts on the subject? 20:25:46 if you need a link for sanddiff, I can provide 20:25:49 It could be that it's due to ${registry::restorekey}, I will submit a change for this routine soon and hopefully that will fix it for you 20:26:13 I'll let you know.. 20:26:25 I figure something (!) in my system is acting the same way as sandboxie 20:26:51 but, since I have way to many drivers to try to disable them and check, I can't do it... at least not easily 20:27:07 maybe some driver is causing it, since I have many programs using drivers on my machines 20:27:38 freeotfe, truecrypt, an ocr program and sandboxie, to just name a few drivers-using programs I use 20:27:46 Don't worry, we'll see if getting rid of ${registry::restorekey} will fix it ! 20:27:49 could one of them be responsible, in your opinion? 20:29:39 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@188.90.40.126) has joined #portableapps 20:30:33 probably not...but I can't tell you 20:31:10 Gringoloco: off-topic... what? 2 Gringolocos? 20:31:33 and thanks for the "probably not" :D 20:31:55 unstable internet connection, one will dissapear soon 20:32:59 oh... thanks for the help (?) :D 20:34:13 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20:36:18 *** dboki89 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 20:43:54 *** qwertymodo (~Ben@oit-142-146.OIT.EDU) has joined #portableapps 20:45:55 is there any real reason to use ReplaceInFileWithTextReplace over ReplaceInFile? 20:46:55 I've seen them both used, but the one with TextReplace uses the TextReplace dll, so I'm wondering if there are any advantages to using it or I'll switch to not using the dll 20:47:16 WithTextReplace is much faster 20:47:42 Since it is using a compiled C DLL. ReplaceInFile is just straight NSIS, so slower. 20:48:12 For small files, you won't really notice it, though. And I think we're switching at some point to something else due to the Unicode switch, but can't recall offhand. 20:48:51 * JohnTHaller is happy as he just fixed this issue for Rev 2 of OO.o Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/22809 20:49:39 well, one of the text files I'm using it on is 250kb, so I suppose the speed difference is probably noticeable 20:50:03 and the dll's only 5k, so it isn't a big deal I suppose 20:50:23 Yeah, in that case you want the DLL one. The whole reason I wrote that wrapper was to make it faster but exactly code-compatible with the existing ReplaceInFile include. You just change the include and it works exactly the same with no other code changes. 20:51:05 ok, thanks John :) 20:51:23 sure thing 20:52:31 and it's nice to hear you fixed that OO.o issue 20:53:19 *** Ashhh is now known as Ghost_spaghetti 20:54:11 *** Ghost_spaghetti is now known as Ashhh 21:10:10 JohnTHaller:Great ;-) 21:10:24 markomlm: Howdy. Thought you'd like that :-) 21:10:54 I'm putting it into Suite 1.6.1 in English and German now. Will post it for general release with the new PA.c Installer tomorrow. It fixes the font issue, too. 21:11:21 And I'm doing an 'updater' for people that will update all languages from 3.2 to 3.2 Rev 2 with just a 1mb download. 21:12:08 JohnTHaller:Good job ;-) That's what I suggested some days ago :-) 21:13:03 In terms of the classpath fix, the launcher still works as usual and deletes and recreates that xml file, but it reads in any existing classpath (if there is one) before doing so, changes the drive letters in said path and then writes it out with the new file. Which solves the problem without creating any new ones. 21:13:36 * markomlm is translation the last 14 app pages. 21:14:19 I've got an draft for the spec page too and will review and publish it next week 21:14:34 Ahm ok 21:15:14 * qwertymodo hates losing source code... 21:16:01 So we'll have a nearly complete content in German ... until You'll publish the next couple of Apps ;-) 21:18:31 JohnTHaller: I think we should not translate more development stuff to German or other Langs. 21:18:51 *** Mir_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21:19:24 Should not? 21:20:11 Yes, cause a developer should read and be able to understand it in english 21:20:32 English 21:20:44 In theory, yeah. But it may be helpful to have it in other langs when we can, even if it is a little outdated. 21:21:29 *** Mir_ (~Mir@pool-71-109-235-221.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 21:22:28 JohnTHaller: Ok for some basics in order to get a good start for new developers 21:22:48 Yerah 21:22:57 I'm updating the OO.o P splash to the new style now. 21:24:13 Did You use the new style of the last developer version caused by the replacment of all sun stuff? 21:24:42 :-( 21:25:43 bad joke ... I know You've meant the new Pa.com design right? 21:26:22 What does the new dev splash look like? 21:26:59 But we have to change the splash too for the next release 3.2.1 because of oracles 'take over' of sun. 21:27:21 I'll send it to You soon 21:29:08 Ah, yeah. I figured that would happen 21:31:20 You've got mail 21:33:13 Kinda barren. But a decent start. 21:33:18 JohnTHaller: Did You create a complete new built process for the packages? 21:33:21 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 21:33:39 *** gluxon is now known as gluxon|gone 21:34:16 *** Bensawsome has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21:34:26 Nope. Takes WAY too long. Just moved the files around in the existing one. 21:34:56 And stuff like passing things into AppCompactor and Installer doesn't work in the ones you sent me and I didn't have time to update from old to new. 21:35:48 Ok. but I mean You built process for the suite :-) 21:38:44 Did You use me last version with the fixes for the path issues I have sent to You for the ne OOoP launcher? 21:38:55 s/me/my 21:39:22 The last thing you sent me only had the oobuilt.bat 21:40:21 right? There was another mail with the links to the last changes .. one moment pls 21:42:30 You've got mail a copy of the one on April 5th 21:43:51 Full support for all path entries. 21:44:55 But we can merge the changes for 3.2.1 21:44:56 Argh. I hadn't seen that. I got it now. 21:45:09 you fully tested it? no bugs or regressions? 21:46:17 I've tested it and one of the posters in the issue too. 21:47:10 But I think we should merge it with Your changes and test it again. But for 3.2.1 21:47:20 When is 3.2.1 21:47:34 How big are your changes? 21:50:36 JohnTHaller: ~30 lines of code, some more variables. 21:50:50 How confident are you in it being bug-free 21:54:37 JohnTHaller:Very confident. I've got to bug messages from the other tester. He have tested it sice April. 21:55:00 Ah ok. I'll check it over and include it in Rev 2, then. Any idea on the ETA of 3.2.1? 21:55:06 *** Mir_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21:55:17 *** Mir_ (~Mir@pool-71-109-235-221.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 21:57:22 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 22:01:16 JohnTHaller:Did You read my private answer? 22:01:43 * markomlm needs some sleep now 22:02:14 I'll be back ... 22:02:21 tomorrow 22:02:44 *** Mir__ (~Mir@pool-71-109-235-221.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 22:03:25 *** Mir_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22:03:30 If there a any problems or questions pls send me a ping. 22:03:44 bye 22:03:47 :-) 22:08:21 *** markomlm has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 22:14:17 *** Gringoloco_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:19:38 *** Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 22:24:31 *** FireFox has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 22:24:59 *** Simeon (~Itunes@dslb-094-216-103-211.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 22:25:03 hi all 22:25:09 hola 22:25:18 hi John! 22:25:38 How goes it 22:26:00 Pidgin is in finnish - forgot to switch my PLatform back after testing ATanks :) 22:26:07 heh 22:26:45 Too bad I want there to discuss the things with Chris and you - timzones were/are in the way. 22:26:52 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:27:01 yea 22:28:11 besides that I have an exam coming up - heavily limits the time for everything else 22:28:19 yeah, i remember the feeling 22:29:00 so I dont really mind you taking a little longer to release the new beta - I can wait a couple days :) 22:30:28