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01:14:30 <pa_3819> Hey, how do I uninstall this from my flash drive?
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02:27:16 <vf2nsr> Anybody running 2k?
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03:24:50 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, I found out why Marble Qt 0.9.2 wasn't listed for download on their website.
03:24:57 <Scriptdaemon> It's *incredibly* buggy.
03:25:12 <ChrisMorgan> Really?  0.9.2 or 0.9.2-1?
03:25:19 <Scriptdaemon> 0.9.2-1
03:25:26 <ChrisMorgan> Have you tried the other?
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03:25:37 <Scriptdaemon> They're probably still working out kinks in the Qt version.
03:25:43 <Scriptdaemon> I have not, though I will.
03:25:46 <ChrisMorgan> Or 0.9?
03:26:00 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: how's fyre working out in general for you, any crashes with my cross compile of it yet?
03:26:00 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't got a response back from the webmaster.
03:26:02 <Scriptdaemon> That wasn't in the download folder that I recall?
03:26:14 <ChrisMorgan> I think it was.  Better look.
03:26:31 <Scriptdaemon> ZachThibeau, no crashes. Did you read my question about the UI of the program?
03:27:05 <ZachThibeau> Scriptdaemon: not my department
03:27:21 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, was just 0.8, 0.9.2, 0.9.2-1 for Windows.
03:27:51 <Scriptdaemon> The look and feel is different from 1.0.0, so I was wondering if you would have had to compile it differently to get the same look.
03:28:46 <ZachThibeau> no I did nothing in fact I did a standard compile, the changes in the ui are from the developers themselves most likely
03:29:15 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, I'm also an idiot. When putting in DirectoriesMove, I forgot to put the full path of the settings directory (instead I just had %APPDATA%) and well, bye bye everything in %APPDATA%.
03:29:20 <ZachThibeau> brb
03:29:24 <ChrisMorgan> EEK!
03:29:58 <ChrisMorgan> WARNING: this is a power tool, don't cut yourself (or your computer) in half with it.
03:30:23 <Scriptdaemon> Sometimes you have to learn the hard way.
03:32:50 <Scriptdaemon> ZachThibeau, I'll ask the developers about it. There has to be a way to compile with the Windows default theme.
03:33:10 <ChrisMorgan> Scriptdaemon, there doesn't, actually... :P
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03:34:25 <Scriptdaemon> The instructions they have on their site seem to be what they've always done, so I don't know why the difference. Plus GIMP / Pidgin / other GTK apps do it (granted, I've no idea how).
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03:55:12 <Scriptdaemon> Apparently Qt apps don't like UPX.
03:55:24 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't observed that.
03:55:40 <ChrisMorgan> I've compressed, I think, one, and it worked.
03:56:13 <Scriptdaemon> Might just be specific to this then.
03:56:22 <ChrisMorgan> Probably.
03:56:30 <Scriptdaemon> I wonder if I can UPX everything else other than the main .exe and see if it'll still work.
03:56:52 <ChrisMorgan> If there are big savings in compressing it with UPX, then it's worth while swapping files in and out to see if you can work out what exactly it is that's not working with it.
04:01:48 <Scriptdaemon> I like that Pinax task pge, btw.
04:01:56 <Scriptdaemon> I think that will be a very efficient solution.
04:02:04 <ChrisMorgan> I think so too.  That's why I tried it out. :-)
04:02:41 <ChrisMorgan> Bye, lecture now, back in an hour or so
04:02:45 <Scriptdaemon> Have fun.
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05:11:07 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, Services will be back in 2.1 right?
05:11:14 <ChrisMorgan> That's my plan.
05:11:15 <Scriptdaemon> Freenet looks interesting.
05:12:13 <ChrisMorgan> Humph.  I don't tend to like that sort of software due to the way it's used.
05:12:31 <Scriptdaemon> How else would it be used?
05:12:45 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean by how else would it be used?
05:13:16 <Scriptdaemon> Well, what did you mean? How the user uses it, or how it's designed?
05:13:31 <ChrisMorgan> I mean the way it's used.  How people use it.
05:14:25 <Scriptdaemon> Ah. Even so, I'm a huge proponent of freedom and privacy.
05:15:03 <ChrisMorgan> Whereas in my opinion, if they've made a rule about something, you can feel free to talk to them and try to convince them that it's a bad rule and they should remove it, but you shouldn't try to circumvent it.
05:15:33 <Scriptdaemon> It's a shame that works about never.
05:15:58 <ChrisMorgan> Correct; normally it won't get you anywhere.  Pity, but still it's a rule.
05:19:53 <Scriptdaemon> There's a quote from, I believe, Thomas Jefferson that would fit well here about unconstitutional laws, but I can't find it. :(
05:20:11 <ChrisMorgan> Whereas my quote would be from the Bible.
05:21:25 <Scriptdaemon> "No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it." That one would do.
05:21:58 <Scriptdaemon> And I'm atheist, so (no offense intended) it would mean little to me.
05:40:26 <Scriptdaemon> Class tomorrow morning. Night.
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06:07:13 <dragonmage> knock knock
06:07:38 <ChrisMorgan> (ARGH!  I tried to resist it but couldn't :P) Who's there?
06:10:48 <ChrisMorgan> I've implemented reading the custom language from a file now which works with these values: [LanguageFile]:File,Type,(Type=ConfigRead:Entry,CaseSensitive?|Type=INI:Section,Key)
06:21:47 <dragonmage> it's me you can read my name right there
06:21:57 <ChrisMorgan> Documentation: completed.
06:22:04 <ChrisMorgan> dragonmage: ah, you are so witty ;-)
06:22:08 <dragonmage> Hi ChrisMorgan
06:23:37 <dragonmage> I was wondering if I could get your insight on the feasibility of this idea http://portableapps.com/node/20266#comment-148548
06:24:24 <dragonmage> I know NSIS is capable, but would that be something acceptable in a launcher?
06:26:12 <ChrisMorgan> Sitting in the background monitoring resolution changes and sending a signal to the application would be well beyond the scope of a launcher.
06:27:05 <dragonmage> but having another launcher just to launch an app to sit there and monitor resolution changes is just wasteful
06:27:06 <ChrisMorgan> It'd be a fairly simple thing to check every 10 seconds or something for such a change, but I don't think it's warranted.  If people go changing resolutions they can tell the program they've done it themselves.
06:27:26 <ChrisMorgan> If that's not what you were suggesting I've misunderstood you
06:28:18 <dragonmage> the point is to have the program handle the resolution changes without user intervention
06:28:37 <ChrisMorgan> Then let the program itself monitor it.
06:29:04 <dragonmage> everytime you flip your tablet from portrait to landscape you don't want to dig into menues to change your theme
06:29:32 <ChrisMorgan> That's not something a launcher would do (especially the sending-a-notification could be difficult, I don't know if rainwhatever has a signal receiver available already but unless it did I couldn't do it).
06:30:39 <dragonmage> RainThemes can load themes from commandline args
06:30:58 <ChrisMorgan> What, launching it again?
06:31:22 <ChrisMorgan> Or does that just tell the first instance about it and then leave?
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06:31:58 <dragonmage> launch, load theme, exit
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06:32:11 <dragonmage> nonresident
06:32:43 <ChrisMorgan> OK. So it'd be fairly simple to do but inefficient as it'd need to poll every x units of time.
06:34:31 <dragonmage> rainrez and raincomputer were written in autoit, RainThemes for that matter as well, and there is not a noticeable resource hit from monitoring
06:34:48 <ChrisMorgan> Do it in AutoIT then.
06:36:17 <dragonmage> we can do that, I just thought having the launcher do it might be more efficient than running an additional app, since the launcher is already running the whole time
06:36:45 <ChrisMorgan> I don't understand.  Wouldn't you do it in RainThemes itself?
06:37:25 <dragonmage> give me a sec to write a brief explanation of "themes" in rainmeter
06:37:44 <ChrisMorgan> It's probably easier for you not to bother; I'm about to go home.
06:39:23 <dragonmage> Themes are a saved Rainmeter.ini which contains positioning info and such for each skin, changing themes means replace Rainmeter.ini with a previously saved one and restart Rainmeter
06:41:56 <dragonmage> so switching themes based on resolution means, check res, replace Rainmeter.ini with one specified for that res and restart Rainmeter
06:42:22 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, I can't really focus on it, I'm trying to finish this language reading stuff before I dash off home
06:42:33 <dragonmage> ok, np
06:42:46 <dragonmage> sorry about distracting you
06:42:52 <ChrisMorgan> :-)
06:47:22 <ChrisMorgan> Bye, done it all now so off I dash.
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09:11:39 <pa_3181> anyone?
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11:33:03 * ChrisMorgan starts upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04...
11:43:23 <ChrisMorgan> And so I'll be off for the rest of the night shortly.
11:44:46 <ChrisMorgan> For those that care I'm planning on releasing the PortableApps.com Launcher 2.0 RC 1 some time soon; I had intended tomorrow, but if I can get a hold of a good bug report for this crash issue reported on Vista with RunAsAdmin I might try to fix it first.
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13:11:05 <pa_1992> is anyone out there?
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19:41:44 <TimClark> Hello, if I recall some folks here use WordPress, any Word Press users in here now ?
19:50:57 <Simeon> no
19:51:02 <Simeon> Hi Tim btw :)
19:51:28 <TimClark> hello Simeon , good to see you
19:52:09 <TimClark> There have been new attacks on WordPress users and I know some of our members use it so I thought I'd give a heads up
19:52:24 <TimClark> "Another round of WordPress Attacks"  http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8770
19:53:03 <TimClark> I have noted Simeon you have been more active in the forums, good for you
19:53:34 <Simeon> yes. Now that my last exam is over... :)
19:54:46 <Simeon> besides that im working on updateing all my apps to the new launcher - isnt as easy as I hoped...and Im waiting for john to release "You-know-what" :)
19:57:20 <TimClark> At this point I wish more time and energy would be spent on the apps :/
19:57:46 <Simeon> but I understand he is holding them back
19:57:55 <Simeon> although the list of unupdated apps is really huge
19:58:14 <TimClark> Have you read all the back and forth about the "new" RT?
19:58:57 <Simeon> yes. I even commented a bit
19:59:14 <TimClark> I saw, at this point it's just getting silly
19:59:56 <Simeon> how do youn mean?
20:01:01 <TimClark> going to pm
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23:07:03 <gluxon> Hey Chris :)
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