00:08:11 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 00:09:02 YVM ChrisMOrgan 00:09:51 ? 00:10:39 correcting my oops on RedNotebook brain was thinking classpath not Environmental path 00:13:04 You're welcome :-) 00:13:10 Such things happen 00:16:14 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 00:22:58 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 00:23:26 *** gluxon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:24:20 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:39:55 *** Zarggg has quit (Quit: Zarggg) 00:41:16 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@64.134.172.118) has joined #portableapps 00:47:52 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.188.185) has joined #portableapps 01:05:07 *** TimClarkvmfud (~0c4a15f6@gateway/web/freenode/x-insqxduprgfsyaxc) has joined #portableapps 01:05:10 *** TimClarkvmfud is now known as TimClark 01:30:48 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:39:24 *** dragonmage has quit (Quit: Page closed) 01:40:49 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:40:53 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 01:52:59 hello ZachThibeau 01:55:08 I still hate how disorganized the beta testing forum is. John should make an archive where all the locked threads go. 01:56:16 I think that there should be a listing much like the test forum 01:57:15 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 01:58:52 *** pa_8575 (~d8ef5793@gateway/web/freenode/x-sindlwmqnpntqbde) has joined #portableapps 01:58:58 hello 01:59:06 Hello pa_8575. 01:59:29 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 01:59:40 Do you require assistance, pa_8575? 01:59:51 can i run ClamWin Portable with avira on my computer 02:00:13 Sure. 02:00:42 the fact that i will have 2 antiviruses 02:00:46 It runs separately from all other anti-anything software. They shouldn't interfere with one another. 02:00:55 ok 02:01:21 most of my programs are now portable 02:01:29 Occasionally due to the methods they employ anti-* software will detect other anti-* software as malware, but that happens less nowadays than it did a couple of years ago. 02:01:51 ok 02:02:17 so i can install it on my harddrive 02:02:32 as this firefox 02:02:53 Sure. Just remember that if you're using portable applications, you shouldn't set them as the default browser, associate file types or things like that, or things tend to break quite badly. 02:03:25 ok thankss 02:03:32 Be aware that ClamWin is an on-demand scanner, scanning files when you tell it to, not a scanner that scans things when you try to open them. 02:03:47 sacn b4 02:04:20 1 more thing 02:04:41 abiword portable has an association 02:05:21 rightclick a doc and it shows 02:06:14 You shouldn't ever associate file types with portable applications - always (or possibly just almost always) that will lose the portability, with some applications it'll mess up the host computer and provide it data that becomes invalid and slows it down. 02:07:06 i didnt associate it 02:07:24 What shows? 02:07:25 it happened how i dont know 02:08:04 If you just set, in explorer, to open that type of file with [Whatever]Portable.exe, that's fine. Just don't use an in-program thing for it. 02:09:09 when i right click a doc it shows microsoft office word and abi and word doc 02:09:29 Is that inside the "Open with" submenu? 02:09:46 yes 02:10:07 Is the Abiword entry "Abiword Portable"? 02:10:28 yes 02:10:34 That's OK then. 02:10:51 its a good program 02:11:02 It is, especially considering how small it is. 02:11:09 yes 02:11:32 use it more then office 2oo3 02:12:35 ok thanks a lot for your help 02:12:46 really appreciate it 02:13:48 You're welcome :-) 02:13:56 *** pa_8575 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 02:18:34 *** TimClark is now known as TimClarkxmsud 02:18:40 *** TimClarkxmsud has parted #portableapps (None) 02:20:08 ChrisMorgan, did John ever respond after you sent him the OpenTTD Portable package that keeps crashing? 02:20:32 No 02:22:42 "Trying to set the working directory to %PAL:DataDir% can cause DefaultData to not copy over correctly and can also cause possible crashes"? The DefaultData part is an entirely separate issue - I can't think of any way at all that it could interfere, the code is entirely separate. 02:23:21 Yes, but it made the different in when it did or did not crash. Wasn't sure what else to put there. 02:23:26 difference* 02:23:51 And so the issue is a deeper, more pervading issue... the type that's very difficult to track down. 02:24:09 Which versions of NSIS have you tested it with? 02:24:27 NSIS Portable 2.46, Unicode NSIS Portable 2.45.1, Unicode NSIS Portable 2.46 RC 2? 02:24:34 Latter. 02:25:00 It could probably be useful if you could test it on the others too; I'd test it myself except that I'm not getting the crash. 02:25:31 If anything, compare the differences between the launcer .ini in that package and the launcher .ini from the one in my thread. 02:25:45 Yeah, I can do that. Probably sometime tomorrow then. 02:26:02 launcher* 02:26:28 It seems pretty clear to me that it's an issue in some way with Vista/7. I think it's more likely to be an NSIS bug or something weird about the ForEachINIPair stuff. I could also try substituting the old, non-kernel function in and see if that helped. 02:27:22 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:27:31 I'll test the other two NSIS packages first, then go from there. 02:27:45 Oh Script whilst I am here any more lol 02:27:56 ? 02:28:07 no spaces and no sites lol 02:28:27 I even offered you a job 02:28:43 vf2nsr: now the only thing left is the fact that your SourceForge folder is called "RedNoteBook Portable"... :P 02:29:12 instead of RedNotebook? 02:29:29 Instead of "RedNotebook Portable" 02:30:24 It is not on my screen 02:31:29 vf2nsr, I'm also putting links to your threads on the test page, btw. (Well, as comments since I can't add them myself). 02:31:34 that and I am being foolish and trying to rewrite a python script ;) 02:31:44 See https://sourceforge.net/projects/vf2nsrtesting/files/, the first item in "All Files" is RedNoteBook Portable 02:32:19 me thinks you need to look closer 02:32:39 Wow thanks Script still trying to figure how to do that 02:32:44 html not my best 02:32:51 Methinks I didn't :-) 02:33:04 ChrisMorgan, it's correct for me. 02:33:05 Now see if your link still works. 02:33:07 want to see a screen shot 02:33:09 Scriptdaemon, he just updated it. 02:33:13 lol 02:33:13 it does 02:33:20 Good. 02:33:27 just checked it 02:33:48 ty 02:34:04 I will get better as I get used to the hierarchy of things here 02:34:07 Promise 02:34:20 and really I don'tmean toi be a PITA 02:34:31 You're not. 02:35:09 so you think any of my repacks are good enough for test? 02:35:30 I know RedNoteboook has had over 400 hits since I started 02:36:26 I haven't looked at any of your packages lately. Been working on my own and my classes. 02:36:51 np 02:37:18 so far only one major complaint and it might just be an incompatibility with program and 2k 02:42:45 I was going to package Qt Creator, but installed it's like 1.3 GB. :( 02:43:12 Remembering that it's already been done? 02:43:36 It includes MinGW, that accounts for a large part of it. 02:43:36 It was? Apparently I forgot to search for it. 02:43:40 Yeah. 02:43:48 well, you mean Qt SDK, not QtCreator 02:44:05 sar3th, meh, it includes Qt Creator :P 02:44:08 True. But it would launcher Qt Creator. 02:44:11 I was working with it very briefly last year. 02:44:14 launch* 02:44:49 well, QtCreator itself is not as big as QtSDK, so there IS a difference 02:45:20 Technicalities! 02:45:52 I looked into hydrogen again since they've updated the Windows binaries, but now it needs a driver installed. 02:45:54 sar3th, have you gone any further with making KDE Portable? 02:46:01 Hydrogen* 02:46:09 nope, real matter, since the one is 1,3 gb and the other one is not even 100mb iirc 02:46:22 Scriptdaemon, Hydrogen? 02:46:25 Was it a game? 02:46:32 Kinda like LMMS. 02:46:41 So why does it need a driver? 02:46:55 yes ChrisMorgan, i've been talking to them, but they got caught up in the latest release, plus i was busy, so no real progress except that i learned a lot about how KDE works on windows 02:47:20 Drum Machine. But yeah, it needs libjack for some reason. 02:47:57 Which isn't just a file copy+paste job. 02:50:09 And it doesn't work without it? 02:50:21 It looks like the sort of thing it might possibly be able to cope without. 02:51:04 Nope. Gives an error then quits. 02:51:13 OK. 02:51:15 Pity. 02:51:21 Submit a bug report. 02:51:28 Well, feature request. 02:51:42 It's still in development, so they'll probably work it out. When I get to it I'll talk to them about it. 02:51:58 I wouldn't be so sure. Do ask them about it otherwise nothing will happen. 02:54:03 True, the last Windows binary was done in 2006, so Windows isn't much of a priority it seems. 02:54:21 Oh, that far back? I didn't notice that. 02:54:24 Even worse. 02:54:40 The one linked on their website at least, I haven't checked SF other than a link I found in a thread on their forums. 02:54:56 Which is also now the default download for Windows. 03:02:48 vf2nsr, I'm going to leave Penguin Command, JSmooth, and Casino BlackJack off the test page for now as they're in the wrong format (should be development tests, not betas). 03:03:19 np don't think they will go anywhere anyways 03:03:32 were sort of made for me then thought would share 03:04:09 I don't know about that. Penguin Command at least to me seems interesting if you were to update it. 03:04:10 I called tehm beta at time because thought since they were in beta forum that that is what they should be called 03:04:28 update it as far as? 03:04:33 correct format? 03:04:35 vf2nsr, if you'd read and followed the PAF spec fully you would have thought otherwise 03:04:44 Bye, off to a tutorial next door now. 03:04:44 I did 03:04:50 and I aint going thtere 03:04:55 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 03:04:57 with alpha, beta and development 03:05:05 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 03:05:34 You have Penguin Command 1.0, but it's up to 1.6.11. 03:05:42 Script so put it in correct format? update installer and laucher? 03:05:53 oh ok will go check 03:06:15 I just meant call it a development test, not a beta. The rest is up to you, but if you update it you might as well update the other stuff. 03:06:53 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 03:07:05 ok looking for the link fo rit now :) 03:08:27 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 03:10:53 Did I call it 1.0 or is that what the game says? 03:14:54 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 03:16:33 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:23:19 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 03:35:57 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:39:13 *** qwertymodo (~Ben@140.211.141.55) has joined #portableapps 03:41:54 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 03:48:55 *** JacobMastel (~Miranda@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 03:53:18 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... 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Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 09:45:16 *** shaun has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10:46:26 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 10:56:32 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 10:56:56 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 11:37:04 I was just asking in #perl to see if I could get perl to make a small executable such as could be used for the PortableApps.com Launcher... the answer seems to be no (I may possibly have had more success with PyPy and RPython, I'm not sure yet). But someone there made a suggestion that hadn't occurred to me at all... Javascript, with WSH. 11:40:50 what do you need perl for ChrisMorgan? 11:41:07 I was just considering it as a possible language I could redo PAL in. 11:41:23 The NSIS code is a mess. At some point I want to rewrite it in something. 11:41:34 why don't you use C++? 11:41:59 perl is just a scripting language, so the best you will get from it is the script ontop of the interpreter 11:42:38 Depends. With RPython (typed subset of Python) I think I should be able to convert it into C and compile that. 11:43:38 so you'd just run your current source through RPython? 11:43:49 or rewrite it in RPython? 11:44:10 Rewrite it in RPython then that would generate and compile C code. 11:44:18 Just an idea I'm toying with, at the moment. 11:45:26 well, tbh, i don't think rewriting in another language which will automagically be translated into another language is a good idea; imo if you want to rewrite it, you should do so in the language you want to compile in, not a different one 11:45:51 who knows what the RPython->C converter will do wrong? 11:46:37 Unfortunately with the WSH consideration, wscript/cscript seem to be missing here in Wine, though I can find references to them working fine on the web. Not sure what gives there. So that puts the lid on that concept. 11:46:49 sar3th: those things get tested pretty thoroughly. 11:47:05 And Python has far nicer and neater language constructs. 11:48:01 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 11:48:29 well, python lets you do almost anything, she doesn't care about types and stuff 11:48:38 sometimes that's nice, sometimes it isn't 11:48:55 RPython is typed. 11:48:55 and what about WSH? WSH is proprietary MS tech 11:49:15 I know; using Javascript (or rather JScript) just struck me as a fascinating concept. 11:49:42 However, it seems that in Wine it would require the Windows Scripting Host for Windows 2000 to be installed to work. 11:49:42 well...you know what the cause of many security issues is, don't you? 11:49:48 it's javascript 11:50:12 Not in the OS. It's practically unused via WSH. It's almost always in-browser or HTA. 11:50:23 I wasn't seriously considering it anyway. The concept just fascinated me. 11:51:14 it's in adobe reader as well 11:52:34 S'pose so. 11:56:32 *** Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 11:56:44 i need to go, i'm very late for the next lecture; see ya later 11:56:52 By 11:56:54 e 12:15:07 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12:23:08 *** sar3th|N900 (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 12:30:33 *** FireFox is now known as AwayFox 12:47:11 *** sar3th|N900 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 13:13:06 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 13:27:35 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@64.134.172.118) has joined #portableapps 13:30:16 *** excid3|asus has quit (Client Quit) 13:40:22 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@64.134.172.118) has joined #portableapps 14:07:25 *** excid3|asus has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 14:49:47 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 14:54:21 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 15:29:02 *** mtthw92 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 15:31:03 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@64.134.172.118) has joined #portableapps 15:37:30 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:37:30 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 16:02:43 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 16:05:03 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:05:21 *** ZachThibeau_ (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 16:08:16 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 16:14:45 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 16:14:48 *** ZachThibeau_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:14:50 *** Zarggg has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:15:48 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@2001:0:4137:9e76:0:fbf3:beb1:ba3d) has joined #portableapps 16:39:43 *** Zarggg has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16:44:28 *** excid3|asus has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 16:52:49 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 17:58:05 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 18:38:36 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@pD9E26FB0.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 18:39:11 Hi 18:39:29 I've a question concerning EclipsePortable. 18:40:33 I'd like to use the JDK instead of the JRE, but no matter which of the possible ways to use a different VM, Eclipse doesn't start. 18:41:00 Might this be because I'm using the 64bit JDK? Any other idea? thx 18:41:24 *** Hiccup (~Hi@62.240.62.168) has joined #portableapps 18:50:15 *** Hiccup has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:51:07 Anyone here? 19:04:59 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 20:09:04 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 20:14:21 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 20:14:21 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 20:22:53 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:31:15 *** pa_5977 (~463be831@gateway/web/freenode/x-kuorqquvzfcbvwsh) has joined #portableapps 20:31:56 i can not move my Firefox bookmarks 20:32:47 pa_5977: What happens when you try? 20:33:41 they never appear on the portable firefox 20:34:10 are a simple directions i cna use 20:34:14 So you're tying to import them from your local firefox right? 20:34:28 yes 20:34:39 Okay, open up local firefox 20:34:47 Hit Ctrl + Shift + B 20:35:07 There's a drop down called "Import and Backup" :P 20:35:28 i see it 20:35:50 Backup, then open up on Firefox Portable, and restore. 20:36:33 thnaks , no where else clear... ;-)) 20:37:00 you welcome :) 20:37:16 *** pa_5977 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 20:54:03 *** AwayFox is now known as FireFox 21:02:46 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... 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