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Gotcha. 01:50:38 It's making it cope like a proper INI parser which it wasn't before. 01:50:48 Ah, I see. 01:51:27 foo = " bar" was being interpreted as `foo ` and ` "bar"` before, clearly `foo` and ` bar` are what are desired, and they are also what kernel32::GetPrivateProfileSection did. 01:51:34 I'll test OpenTTD Portable again tonight after work, and I'll put it out if there are no more problems. Then that one should be good to go to PR as well. 01:52:08 Ah. Do you know why kernel32::GetPrivateProfileSection wasn't working, or do you only know that it wasn't? 01:52:17 (Regarding the crash) 01:52:20 Not a clue. Something weird about how it behaves on Windows 7. 01:52:54 Should I still test the current test package of OpenTTD with the other packages of NSIS still then? 01:53:02 - still 01:53:14 I think that as well as making testing of launchers easier, the PortableApps.com Launcher is going to be a headache for the Release Team... it becomes too easy to develop a portable application /really/ quickly. :-) 01:53:54 I've done 10? 11? now in like a month or two. 01:53:57 Don't bother. I'm pretty sure it's GPPS, the crash report JohnTHaller gave me also said that the APPCRASH had been inside kernel32 which while not conclusive is suggestive. 01:54:38 Alright. 01:55:10 Can one redistribute msxml on SF (or at all, for that matter)? 01:55:31 Not sure. 01:55:38 Is it marked by Microsoft as a redistributable? 01:55:42 If so, yes, if not, no. 01:56:36 Nah. So probably not then. If it was, I imagine TeXnic Center would do it themselves anyway. 01:57:10 Seems like the answer is no: merge module xmlsdk4.msm is, and msxmlcab.exe is (downloads the CAB file), but not the contents of the package. 01:57:17 That is for 4.0 SP2. 01:58:58 And 6 seems a bit vague 01:59:31 I'll put it on the "look into later" pile. 01:59:52 The only mention of "redistributable" on the download page seems to be "MSXML6 is also the first version of MSXML to provide a 64-bit redistributable package." 02:00:16 Yeah, I saw that. 02:01:34 One of my professors maintains an interpreter for LISP I'm wondering if he'll be interested in having be package it for PA.c. (I've not yet seen the source, but he says it's open source) 02:01:42 me* 02:01:50 What's its name? 02:02:58 Well, at least I think that's how it goes. He uses XLISP and he says he's bug fixed it, but I don't know if he submitted them to the developer or just keeps his own copy. 02:04:11 The last official release on XLISP's site was updated in 2002. 02:11:02 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 02:11:51 Plus I need to update OpenTTD anyway to fix the language switching bug when not used with the menu, now that I think about it. 02:12:12 What language switching bug? 02:12:18 Does it store its language? 02:12:23 Not just an environment variable? 02:12:47 The one you fixed that Simeon reported, where it would reset back to the default. 02:13:00 Anyway, I have never called it a bug, I've only ever called it missing functionality. Because that's all it is. 02:13:12 Sure, it's desirable functionality, but it wasn't a bug, it was exactly what was expected. 02:13:22 Call it "bad design" if you like, it may have been that, but it wasn't a bug :P 02:13:36 It'd be good if you could test that the [LanguageFile] section works as expected. 02:13:57 I lump bad design and logic errors in the same group. =P 02:14:07 Yeah, I was hoping to help with that. 02:14:25 But it's /not/ a logic error! 02:14:59 unless advertised otherwise, it's to be considered a logic error 02:15:04 or it should perform as expected. 02:15:50 Logic error means that there's an error in the code in dealing with the logic. This worked exactly as I had designed it and expected it to. 02:16:02 I meant human logic. 02:16:21 :O 02:16:36 *** sar3th|N900 (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 02:16:38 Logic error would normally mean where you put in a not where you didn't mean to, or an OBOE or something like that. 02:17:54 The point is that it was rectified and I'll need to update the launcher .ini. =P 02:19:01 The registry plugin issue still hasn't been resolved, has it? 02:20:18 I think as it is currently it's only affecting Wine 1.0 (not 1.1) and some configurations of Windows 2000. 02:20:54 So it's been fixed for XP SP2? 02:21:29 I believe so. 02:30:32 ChrisMorgan, an idea to maybe help with some clutter in the beta testing forum. You think John would go for an archive forum where all locked threads go? 02:30:51 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 02:31:20 That would require overriding the Beta Testing forum view... hmm. It's possible but could be a tad messy. What we'd need more is to actually /lock/ those threads. 02:31:55 Either that or creating a sub-forum for locked threads and moving them all manually whenever we lock a theread. 02:33:11 I've also had a few ideas to make that more easily done. I don't know how Drupal works in this aspect, but would it be practical to add more options to posting/etc.? For instance, the developer could mark the thread outdated and it would lock itself. 02:33:35 And append [Outdated] to the title as well. 02:33:52 That sort of thing would require a helper module 02:36:22 For the end user such things are easy to use, but they require a bit of work in development. 02:36:59 I thought of all that because I was thinking, whenever one of my apps goes official I wanted to just go through the beta testing forum and add things to the test page that haven't been added. I started making posts for vf2... whatever his name is, but that still requires someone else to go through them. 02:37:13 vf2nsr 02:38:30 Yeah, that. So anyway, if we added more functionality to the website, we could have Drupal add (and update) apps on the test page automatically. 02:39:29 But that would also mean the test page would have to be stored differently, more communication between custom mudules, etc. 02:39:33 in My Ideal Way Of Doing It (MIWODI... sounds not bad :P), it'd use quite a different approach. You'd register a project for each one, that'd then manage all the interwoven pages, details, versions, release pages for official apps, details, issues, tracking of release status, everything in a much nicer (but more initial-development-time-of-the-system-consuming) way. 02:39:43 *** OliverK|Away has parted #portableapps ("so long and thanks . . . for all the fish") 02:39:55 I like that. 02:40:07 The name, too. =P 02:40:24 One of those things which would be fairly easy to do quite well in Django, but in Drupal (5 or 6, 7 would be considerably better) it ends up a /lot/ more coding. 02:40:58 Has John budged at all toward considering Django? =P 02:41:32 I don't know. Before I would try seriously suggesting replacing parts of the site with it, I would need to have integration at least of the authentication system. 02:41:59 Or a conversion script. 02:42:02 And moving the whole site to Django... hmm. Nice idea but I don't think it's going to happen this decade. 02:42:09 No, the two systems would need to be able to share the data. 02:42:33 I meant if the whole thing went Django. 02:43:22 Too complex in its current state. I think I'd just port Drupal to Django (c.f. drupy, there have been two attempts, one to Python and then one to Django, they've both fizzled out very early) and be done with it... 02:44:03 Ah. 02:44:15 Yeah, I suppose that'd work. 02:45:31 I think really it would need to be a complete migration or serious data sharing. Otherwise people would get annoyed by the fact that it doesn't appear in the[ir] tracker, comments don't work the same way (but rather better), etc. 02:46:13 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 02:46:51 Configuration of the innards of Django projects tends to be (not always but normally) in settings.py, urls.py and other Python scripts. In Drupal it tends to be "put the files in and then enable it in the admin interface". 02:47:13 Yeah. 02:48:09 Though for the actual configuration step, the Satchmo (e-commerce application) developer has developed livesettings. But still it's just not as admin-friendly as Drupal. 02:51:53 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 02:52:00 There is the Project module family for Drupal, I think it could be adapted to suit PortableApps.com quite nicely. 02:54:10 thinking about altering the website? 02:54:25 "Wishing it" I think is a better descriptor :P 02:54:47 I was brainstorming with Chris ideas to make things a little more automated. 02:55:17 It's not really worth while doing that at the moment. 02:55:20 you mean the dev test site, am i rite? 02:55:22 In a year's time, maybe. 02:56:23 We were talking more about the whole site. Management of DT releases is merely a small part of it. 02:57:10 oh okay 03:01:17 Bye 03:01:21 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 03:07:07 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 03:10:42 *** sar3th|N900 is now known as sar3th|zZz 03:27:51 *** Bloodsong has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03:29:47 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 03:30:11 Release: PNotes Portable 6.0 PreRelease 1 http://portableapps.com/node/23528 03:33:26 *** sar3th|zZz has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:53:21 *** Bloodsong (~Nimbus@bas13-toronto12-1167983118.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #portableapps 04:36:00 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 04:37:15 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@cpe-76-179-15-53.maine.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 04:39:35 Got a small problem but what else is new? 04:39:59 updating a program and it now has 2 versions in it, I created 2 launchers and 2 ini files 04:40:11 both work great from the directory 04:40:15 both show on menu 04:40:27 but only one launches from menu? 04:40:43 Are you launching them at the same time? 04:40:50 no 04:41:43 second one doesn't even bring up splash from menu but does from the directory 04:42:40 Have you tried running it a second time? 04:42:45 *** JacobMastel has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 04:43:11 In certain situations (due to the PortableApps.comLauncherRuntimeData.ini issue which is fixed in the hg tip) that would fix it. 04:43:16 multiple times no luck only runs from the directory not menu even tried refreshing menu 04:43:34 How about your appinfo.ini; it's all set up properly? 04:43:36 ok so compile the hg and try it? 04:43:56 should be since it will launch froim the exe I created to launch it 04:44:19 that is what has me boggled click on the launch it runs 04:44:20 vf2nsr, could you please paste the content of your appinfo.ini? 04:44:25 click on menu it does nothing 04:44:38 It's probably an appinfo.ini problem, I think. 04:44:38 whic one the one that does not run? 04:44:51 ok one moment 04:45:06 but question why would it run from clicking the exe and not menu? 04:45:19 They're in the same package, right? So the appinfo.ini is the same. 04:45:29 correct 04:46:53 http://pastebin.com/2uqeeETH 04:47:19 Start2-PenguinCommand-Windowed-Portable.exe should be Start2=PenguinCommand-Windowed-Portable.exe 04:48:52 ty can't believe I did not see that time to check my glasses ;) 04:49:08 (Just a hint, a syntax-highlighting text editor can be very useful for such situations, as the highlighting will be all wrong in such a case.) 04:49:28 I have been usuing notepad++ 04:49:43 It should highlight that so that you can see it, then? 04:49:59 umm still not working 04:50:20 Refreshed? 04:50:31 just did and now all is goos 04:50:34 d 04:50:41 Try restarting the menu? 04:50:51 so the highlight syntax is that a setting in notepad++? 04:51:25 Hmm, its syntax highlighting is different to what I would have expected. 04:51:44 will have to look at it thanks a bunch Chris 04:51:49 It just highlights the = sign. Vim highlights the whole key. 04:51:57 Still think I need a secratary 04:52:08 Vim? 04:52:09 To help you spell secretary? ;-) 04:52:14 gVim. 04:52:18 ;) 04:52:26 portable? 04:52:28 Yep 04:52:35 will hunt it out 04:52:43 meh, geany + addons 04:52:45 Don't worry about vim, it's quite complex. It's good when you grow up with it, but it'd be quite hard to get used to. 04:53:01 ah ok 04:53:07 or you can put aspell into notepad++ 04:53:21 ok back to work thanks again 04:53:22 Similar in that way to emacs. I've tried emacs twice (once in a console, once windowed in Windows) and *shudder* ... whereas lots of people really like emacs. 04:53:33 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]) 04:53:52 OliverK|Away, how does geany go with UTF-16LE files? 04:54:08 i don't know, never tried/have no clue 04:54:25 got a sample, I'll check 04:54:46 When making the UTF-16LE language files for PAL I've had some issues with using Vim (it'll create them but not edit them properly without taking significant care) and gedit (it has no idea about the BOM but NSIS needs the BOM)... 04:55:04 seems that geany has no problems with it, i guess 04:55:12 it is available as a encoding option 04:55:31 Hmm, maybe I should try geany for such things. I know Notepad++ copes very well with it, I just haven't got round to installing any of those on my laptop :P 04:56:31 When on Windows I've been using Notepad++ for it. 05:00:35 ChrisMorgan: not hard to install, unless you've got win 7. There's a bug with the installer i'm going to try to work out 05:00:41 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:00:45 still works though, used it at work 05:00:54 At home I use Ubuntu. 05:00:58 meh 05:01:03 Bye, I'm off to a tutorial now. 05:01:04 sudo apt-get install geany 05:01:12 Yeah, I suspected it might be that. 05:01:16 configure make make install 05:01:19 REALLY easy 05:01:21 I did it :p 05:01:51 Shouldn't need the ./configure, make, make install should it? apt-get install geany should be getting a full, prebuilt package? 05:02:02 depends 05:02:08 my linux had .14 i think 05:02:16 Ah, old version and you wanted newer. 05:02:21 so, yeajh at .18 i elected to build my own package 05:02:22 That makes sense then 05:02:24 Bye 05:02:26 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Quit messages are inane.) 05:02:26 bye 05:06:14 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 05:16:33 *** FireFox is now known as AwayFox 06:20:32 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.11.192) has joined #portableapps 06:20:37 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Client Quit) 06:26:12 *** Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 07:27:02 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:30:23 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.11.192) has joined #portableapps 07:34:10 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 07:38:51 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 07:45:50 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 07:58:02 Whatever would I do without Scriptdaemon :-) 08:15:49 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.11.192) has joined #portableapps 08:18:14 *** Spaceghost has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:42:50 Scriptdaemon: you don't need all of Key="language ", just Key=language 08:43:07 Whitespace in INI parsing is very flexible (thus the quoting). 08:43:23 K. So, remove the space too? 08:43:30 Yep 08:43:51 This is just for LanguageFile right? 08:44:19 With the INI FileWrite for it earlier, you may also not need the spaces in there, though it keeps consistent style inside the file. OpenTTD may require the space, but it may well also cope with language=foo.lng just as well. 08:45:41 I just have it that way for consistency, but then again it's case sensitive too, so who knows. 08:45:43 I've committed the fix to the hg tip now, feel free to try it again. 08:45:48 Alright. 08:45:56 May as well leave it for consistency. Looks good. 08:48:03 I /really/ like the way I've got you to test it with a nice variety of apps, and thoroughly too :-) 08:50:00 I do what I can. 08:50:26 That's really weird. It didn't do it before, but now I'm getting that crash in Unicode NSIS... 08:51:33 Uh oh. What crash? 08:51:56 The one right at the splash screen, assuming the same one I had for OpenTTD. 08:52:18 You think an update to Windows 7 could have caused it? 08:52:32 What happens when you've got debugging on? 08:53:12 I haven't debugged it yet. I'll run local Unicode NSIS and test debug the portable one in a little bit. 08:53:26 - test 08:54:48 Error in macro Language.nsh_Init on macroline 96 08:54:48 Error in macro RunSegment on macroline 12 08:54:48 Error in script "C:\Users\Kenny Williams\Desktop\launcher\Other\Source\PortableApps.comLauncher.nsi" on line 196 -- aborting creation process 08:56:03 (When trying to compile PortableApps.comLauncher.nsi, obviously) 08:56:29 *cough* try updating agani. 08:56:32 *again 08:56:35 =P 08:57:07 I almost always at least compile it before committing, this time I didn't because of tea time in the middle, I finished the code before and then forgot to compile after but checked it straight in... 08:58:05 Arg, the Java plugin for Firefox guzzles the whole CPU *every* time it ends up running... three so far. That rather makes using Blackboard for one of my units at Uni a real nuisance, for no apparent reason it starts a silly "have you got Java" check... even though it doesn't use Java in any of the rest of it as far as I can see. 08:58:51 Fortunately for my three FIT units I get to use Moodle... so much nicer than Blackboard. Hopefully they'll stop using Moodle as merely a pilot in three faculties and will adopt it across the whole Uni and chuck this pesky (and expensive) Blackboard away. 09:01:19 Most of my classes have used Blackboard, but one this quarter is using Moodle. 09:02:10 Overall Moodle does seem better, but they don't even link it from the main website so it's less accessable than Blackboard (which they do). 09:02:21 Accessible* 09:06:53 While it no longer puts %PAL:LanguageCustom% in the file, it's defaulting to english_US. 09:06:58 Investigating. 09:07:22 (First run from PA.c menu) 09:08:42 (While the menu is in Greek. That part is important to note.) 09:16:13 --------------------------- 09:16:13 PortableApps.com Launcher 09:16:13 --------------------------- 09:16:13 Debug message at line 196.12.102.13.41 09:16:13 Segment: Language 09:16:13 Hook: Init 09:16:17 ____________________ 09:16:19 Environment variable expansion on $0: 09:16:23 Before: `%PortableApps.comLocaleName%` 09:16:25 After: `` 09:16:27 --------------------------- 09:16:31 OK Cancel 09:16:33 --------------------------- 09:16:35 That doesn't seem right. 09:17:12 --------------------------- 09:17:12 PortableApps.com Launcher 09:17:12 --------------------------- 09:17:13 Debug message at line 196.12.117.13.41 09:17:13 Segment: Language 09:17:13 Hook: Init 09:17:17 ____________________ 09:17:19 Environment variable expansion on $2: 09:17:23 Before: `%PAL:AppDir%\OpenTTD\lang\%PAL:LanguageCustom%.lng` 09:17:25 After: `F:\PortableApps\OpenTTDPortable\App\OpenTTD\lang\.lng` 09:17:27 --------------------------- 09:17:31 OK Cancel 09:17:33 --------------------------- 09:17:35 Which then lets to that. 09:17:40 So, when if checks if that exists, it defaults to english_US. 09:17:50 sets* 09:28:00 ChrisMorgan, I'm going to bed. Let me know if you can figure out what's wrong from this, otherwise I'll provide more information/testing tomorrow. 09:28:13 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. 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I have tried to install it in the past (long in the past) but the install always died saying it was corrupted. Might be time to say forget it. 18:39:07 Hi, Clamwin always gives me an error when i try to save the update report 18:40:06 it's doing it since the public computers i use changed from xp to win7 is that related? 18:40:41 i just re-installed it because it also kept getting errors when updating 18:48:42 allo??? 18:51:23 *** Alcasar has quit (Quit: Page closed) 18:51:28 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-094-216-011-213.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 18:51:34 hi all 18:51:42 Whats up? 18:53:04 Are you still here bill_ 18:53:06 ? 18:53:18 yes 18:53:34 still having problems with OpenOffice? 18:54:16 yes - don't know how the chat works. Can you see what I previously posted or should I ask again? 18:54:27 I can. 18:54:52 do you know what Md5sums are for? 18:55:17 No, what are MD5sums? 18:55:51 they are for checking file integrity. Just to make sure your installer is not corrupted. 18:56:13 If you right-click on it, is the installer digitally signed? 18:57:53 Signed Rare Ideas, LLC Thursday Jan 28, 2010 - It said that it was verifying itself as it ran. 18:58:04 ok. that looks good. 18:58:42 I did not register it - but would not expect that it would make a difference. 18:59:05 did the installation process give you any errors? or just the launch of the program? 18:59:59 Installation said it was successful and I have tried the Sudoku with it working - I have used Sudoku and VLC as individual installs in the past. 19:00:34 I did not register the program - I would not expect that to be an issue. 19:01:10 ok.Then lets try a clean start: inside the OpenOfficePortable folder, there are 3 folders. Could you rename the /Data folder to something like /Data2. 19:02:10 Does it matter if the path gets long - I installed it in "C:\Documents and Settings\Bill\Desktop\PortableAppsSuite" ----- I will do a rename on the data folder 19:02:29 yes that does matter and may be the reason for your problems. 19:02:52 OpenOffice doesnt like too long oaths. 19:03:35 oaths=paths 19:06:26 It will not let me rename the data folder - says access denied. 19:07:04 Is OpenOffice stilll running? 19:07:13 Do you have a local copy of OpenOffice? 19:11:13 No, but I had started the PortableApps to the main menu - just shut that down - same result - Directory had been flagged as Read Only - I deselected the read only flag and tried renaming again but get the same result - The read only flag reappears if I go back to the folder properties again. 19:11:57 thats strange. 19:13:40 How much of a path is allowed for the installation (would be a good item for the FAQs) - I really hate installing programs in the root directory 19:14:27 lemme take a look - too bad PortableApps's standard folder layout is the root folder... 19:16:15 I have a data partition with all my user data in it and installed the Portableappsmenu in there. Is that an option for you? 19:19:11 I couldnt find an exact maximum path lengh for OpenOffice. 19:19:23 I don't have a seperate partition for data. I tend to use a directory off the desktop because most software (even the old or poorly written stuf) can get to the desktop quickely - will try to install it to c:\P-App\ if that make the path too long, that is really bad programming. 19:21:21 just started the install 19:21:56 that should work. The standard folder is "PortableApps" which would have the additional advantage that the installer would find it automatically. 19:44:03 looks like the path may have been the answer - this time it works properly - thank you - i will hint to them what i think of the unknown limit 19:45:45 ok. I am confident that it will keep working - i was most likely the path. 19:46:05 gotta go now - bye 19:47:14 *** Simeon has parted #portableapps (None) 19:48:57 *** bill_ has quit (Quit: Page closed) 19:49:19 *** pa_8280 (~403ddce2@gateway/web/freenode/x-fvkxoiyvtfxqsnkk) has joined #portableapps 19:49:30 *** pa_8280 has quit (Client Quit) 20:35:13 *** Spaceghost (irssi@unaffiliated/spaceghost) has joined #portableapps 20:46:57 *** Zarggg has quit (Quit: Zarggg) 20:47:23 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@2001:0:4137:9e74:0:829c:beb1:ba3d) has joined #portableapps 20:55:25 *** AwayFox is now known as FireFox 20:57:07 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 22:34:49 *** JacobMastel (~Miranda@75-95-186-183.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) has joined #portableapps 22:35:27 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 22:39:01 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 22:46:55 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 23:01:14 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 23:35:30 *** JacobMastel is now known as JacobMastel-Away