00:35:52 *** rouilj1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:42:47 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 00:43:39 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 00:44:15 *** iceslice has parted #portableapps (None) 00:44:38 anyione having issues with pastebin not working? 00:46:17 vf2nsr: posting on pastebin.com seems to have been broken for quite a while. Use pastebin.org. 00:46:22 Or another one. 00:46:35 ok tyvm 00:48:38 ok in that case any references as to another site? 00:49:20 Try pastebin.org. 00:51:32 I did same results 00:51:41 think I found one 00:51:45 tinypaste 00:52:14 pastebin.org has been working fine for me. 00:52:40 I get same blank page 00:52:51 http://tinypaste.com/dc110a pasted what I needed to here 00:53:21 ... strange, pastebin.org is a completely different site to pastebin.com, sure you were on .org not .com? 00:54:05 will try again 00:54:06 "0.83.0.0_DevelopmentTest_2 " should be "0.83.0.0 Development Test 2" 00:54:21 Ok well it was just to help someone 00:54:31 so will put that in forum 00:55:00 And that DirectoriesMove "settings\VitySoft\FRD" should just be something like "frd", going an extra level of nesting may break things (I'm not certain). 00:55:45 actually in that if I did not it brok eit 00:56:01 That's what I guessed would happen. 00:56:02 as it would not find it 00:56:17 which is why I added it the way I thought 00:56:23 Various of those options, RefreshShellIcons etc., I wasn't sure about... I put RefreshShellIcons in because I know when it will be useful, shell extensions, file types and things like that, but I've never seen a use of it yet. 00:56:36 and as I stated at end I am not a progrqammer just trying to help him 00:56:48 nor I 00:56:56 which is why I left it alone 00:57:27 once he updates it? I can delete it cause honestly only dl it to help 00:57:33 Yep. Missing quotes is just the thing which stood out to me. 00:57:52 I thought so as well but it seemed to work well fo rme on my testing 00:58:18 In a path with spaces? 00:58:21 and I am sure he will get better help from more knowledgable people than I 00:58:33 no spaces? 00:58:56 I wasn't trying to step on your toes or anything. As a matter of fact to a large extent I'd rather keep out of it at the moment because I'm working on the installer and launcher just now. 00:59:09 CommandLineArguments=-Xms32m -Xmx128m -jar %PAL:AppDir%\FreeRapidDownloader\frd.jar 00:59:19 the only spoaqces were java required 00:59:30 and No you were not stepping on toes 00:59:40 Heck I appreciate it hopefully he does 00:59:48 Consider this then: javaw.exe -jar C:\Free Rapid Downloader Portable\App\FreeRapidDownloader\frd.jar 00:59:53 What would you expect that to do? 01:00:31 Here is how I would expect it to be broken up: [javaw.exe] [-jar C:\Free] [Rapid] [Downloader] [Portable\App\FreeRapidDownloader\frd.jar] 01:01:37 Pardon me BUT ytou are putting spaces in that are not there 01:01:53 it is FrreRapidDownloader 01:02:19 there are no spaces? 01:03:04 or am I missing something? 01:05:12 hey don't want enemies but what am I missing? 01:05:39 If they install to a directory with spaces in? 01:06:07 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 01:06:24 Suppose they could change the directory? I was just going with the defaults 01:06:49 sso if it is installed in a different directory the whole thing would be moot? 01:07:06 Suppose they install to C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Desktop\FreeRapidDownloaderPortable. 01:07:09 You've got spaces in there. 01:07:39 So what gets executed is "javaw.exe -Xms32m -Xmx128m -jar C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Desktop\FreeRapidDownloaderPortable\App\FreeRapidDownloader\frd.jar" 01:07:51 so then we should always include the "" just in case? 01:09:06 Almost always. In rare cases it will work without and with will break it, but if in doubt, quote all paths. 01:09:48 That's why in a warped sort of way I have begun to think it would be better if all of us developers developed on convoluted paths like C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Desktop to find such issues. 01:10:03 ok well I better add that to the manual and change a bunch of my apps I repackaged 01:10:49 Or maybe the code could be written that %kllk% = "%jklj%" by default? 01:11:32 No, that would be a bad idea. 01:11:37 j/k 01:11:41 Good. 01:11:54 Especially if it involves changing the environment variable being referenced :P 01:12:18 Be aware that only really applies to command line arguments. 01:12:20 it might be interesting to have a forum thread for develops or wannabes posting such tidbits of info? 01:12:39 sort of like the lauchappafterspalsh? 01:12:44 etc... 01:13:36 They're just the sorts of things that go in the "topics" section of the manual. 01:13:53 LaunchAppAfterSplash only really applies to games, so it's in the page topics/games 01:14:59 ok you win again at least you postedf the quotes issue to him so hopefully he combinies thoughts? 01:15:13 and his original had launch after splash 01:15:20 which I removed 01:17:03 "Over eager", I think. 01:17:44 well as he staed I thgink he copied the appinfo, installer.ini and launcher.ini files verbatim then sort of filled in the blannks 01:17:59 as opposed to using only what he needed 01:18:25 but hopefully I got him heading on right track and others can help too 01:18:51 I jut interjectectedf when someone asked him to have it run fromm portable java and he asked how 01:21:57 so do I quote just teh %PAL:AppDir%? 01:22:16 No, the whole path. 01:23:15 "%PAL:AppDir%\FreeRapidDownloader\frd.jar" like that? 01:25:56 ok editted my post to him now in hands of him thanks Chris ttyl got a few things to get done 01:26:10 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 01:38:52 *** rouilj1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 01:39:21 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:39:23 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 01:39:45 howdy folks 01:47:39 well finally got some mmap code converted to win32 compatible code for the new xtext enhancements for PChat :D 01:49:13 also coded at runtime a portable mode definition so that the end compile will save it's settings to a relative folder I set as ../../../Data/settings so in the event of the launcher not cleaning up it will remain in the settings folder period :P 01:50:24 *** Srgsiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 01:52:55 ChrisMorgan: are you still going to work on Code::Blocks Portable? 01:53:29 I should get back to it at some point. Problem is that guy who wanted to help make it more portable actually made a real mess of it by using APPDATA as the variable. 01:53:49 I see they've actually done a new release now. 01:54:25 If you want to take over though, feel free. You actually use that sort of thing so I think you'd probably be better at getting it all right. 01:54:44 that they have, been using it just today (the new version that is) and sure 01:56:17 I've still got mixed feelings about that APPDATA stuff. I think you should be safe to change it, but it's still just the Wrong Way to Do It (from their perspective). 01:57:01 So you want to take it over? 01:57:12 yeah may as well, 01:57:20 OK. All yours. 01:57:29 I mean if it doesn't work out too well I can easily modify the source too :P 01:57:47 be right back, updating my PChat build 01:57:50 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:58:20 I just cut PortableApps.comInstaller.nsi down from 1793 lines to 1258 lines with ease... no more having 10 copies of exactly the same code with just one number different each time 01:58:24 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:58:26 ... 01:58:59 there got rid of the annoying (warning) private message by getting it to print to a text file instead 01:59:20 saves me also from have to force the launcher to use an environment variable to turn it off 01:59:31 Can't you fix it? 01:59:53 I already did :P and I quote "getting it to print to a text file instead" 02:00:24 That's not fixing it, that's working around it. 02:00:52 Why was cutting 30% off the line count of PortableApps.comInstaller.nsi so easy? And now I'm going to go and cut even more off. 02:02:10 the warnings is just a log, and what it does it spits it out in a private message window instead of a text file where it would be more usefull this way users can send me their log text file instead of copy and paste which isn't always friendly in PChat/XChat 02:03:39 I did it this way as a win/win situation as the log would be beneficial for me but also get's rid of the use of the private message and put it in a text file making it so users are happy 02:04:51 Very well then: :-) 02:05:29 ok brb again, fixing gtk theme issues 02:05:32 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:06:22 *** rouilj has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02:08:17 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 02:08:42 there thats better :) 02:09:26 the wimp theme for gtk 2.20 is pretty much broken so I'm using the closest gtk theme I can thats close to a windows like theme and thats easy on the eyes 02:16:39 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:17:06 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 02:24:34 again sorry for leaving, fixing cpu detection for PChat 02:24:36 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:24:52 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 02:40:31 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 02:47:27 *** sar3th (sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps 02:47:27 sar3th is currently busy studying, but he thinks scout is delicious... 02:47:27 sar3th is currently busy studying, but he thinks scout is delicious... 02:50:58 wtf GizmoBot?! 02:54:01 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 03:19:22 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-246.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 03:24:38 *** Pyromaniac (~446b81bf@gateway/web/freenode/x-wncagwytsgpikomk) has joined #portableapps 03:25:00 hey chris! can I PM you (don 03:25:09 (don't worry its not development) 03:33:20 *** excid3|asus has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 03:34:43 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 04:00:19 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:00:33 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 04:00:35 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 04:09:16 *** Pyromaniac has quit (Quit: Page closed) 04:16:08 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 04:48:10 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 05:55:16 *** pa_7530 (~4f8ab128@gateway/web/freenode/x-xqtipjldxleiftcv) has joined #portableapps 05:55:35 how i auto run it again i accedently deleted the file 05:57:00 can you write the stuff i should write in noteped so i make portable apps auto run again 05:57:36 help? 05:57:49 pa_7530: the easiest way is just to install the PortableApps.com Platform again. 05:57:54 It won't lose anything for you. 05:58:02 yea but i got plenty of programs 05:58:20 all of those will get deleted 05:59:03 pa_7530 just dl the base suite 05:59:03 cant you just send the file? 05:59:06 No they won't. The Platform is just the menu bit. 05:59:17 ok 05:59:23 *** pa_7530 has quit (Client Quit) 06:20:30 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@95.99.242.71) has joined #portableapps 06:20:30 *** Gringoloco has quit (Changing host) 06:20:30 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 06:23:49 ChrisMorgan: Did you actually test FileReadWord ? (I'm confused) 06:24:09 Ahhh... I think I did. 06:24:47 You could immagine I've tested it before sending it to you... 06:26:07 It was doing the Byte reading in an illogical order. 06:26:07 This is what words do, or on my OS at least... 06:26:39 If I read byte by byte, it reads FF & FE, but as a word it is FEFF 06:26:41 You read byte 1, then byte 2, then shifted byte 2 left 1 byte to add them. 06:27:16 I did test the Byte reading. But now I think about it more, I don't think I did actually test the FileReadWord. 06:27:35 You'll see 06:28:10 It's always written as U+FFFE (or 0xFFFE, or so on, etc.). FEFF is UTF-16BE. But I'll need to check how NSISu actually handles Word reading. If it does it back to front that's weird and bad. 06:28:38 thats Little Endian for you 06:28:44 back to front 06:29:32 ... but surely FileReadWord, being a UTF-16LE function, would take it in that same back-to-front way? 06:32:14 FF & FE becomes FEFF, if read as a word, that's all 06:34:40 I think I'll go back to the FileReadByte then... 06:34:51 Why do they have to make it so confusing? UTF-8 is so much nicer :D 06:36:15 But come to think of it... FileReadByte isn't in the ANSI NSIS builds anyway. 06:36:26 Yes it is. Good. 06:37:10 ??? Just rectify it, and use FileReadWord as suppose to. You'll have to get used to the LE word handling or you would accounter the same problem again, one day 06:37:42 Why would you not say to use FileReadByte? 06:38:26 Use it, but switch the bytes back around again 06:39:41 That I don't agree with. It's illogical. Reading the BOM as a normal string (not back to front) makes more sense. Reading it back to front indicates to me that you're expecting to find it that way... which, though you are, is counter-intuitive in my opinion. 06:40:47 As the UTF-16LE BOM is U+FFFE, I think that's what it should be being looked for as. Not already flipped around just because the language is already partially working with little endian rather than big endian. 06:41:59 I really don't know why Microsoft in particular went with little endian rather than big endian. 06:42:56 It seems illogical now, but I think better get used to it now. You will definitly accounter the same problem again. I did several times in the registry plug-in ! 06:43:55 and I feel a bit made a fool of, to be honest 06:45:06 Those Lilliputians and Blefuscuans really did cause a lot of trouble. 06:49:43 ChrisMorgan: And about TextFunc.nsh, I did test it on ANSI files. Should work fine 06:50:02 I mean with ANSI NSIS. 06:50:44 Ahh, ok. Yes it isn't meant for ANSI NSIS 06:52:01 What do you reckon: should I require NSISu 2.46 for PAL 2.0? 06:52:19 It would probably simplify matters. 06:52:51 ? 06:53:31 Require NSIS_UNICODE to be defined, and require NSIS_VERSION >= 2.46 06:53:41 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|away 06:53:46 (Leave your message on the answering machine and I'll get back to it when I get back in an hour's time plus or minus three quarters of an hour) 06:56:25 Probably compiling will be safer that way. 07:01:44 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:02:49 ChrisMorgan|away: NSIS will go officially unicode soon enough. There working on it ATM, but that could mean stuff is going to be different again 07:08:46 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 07:09:05 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 07:12:54 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 07:30:44 *** ChrisMorgan|away is now known as ChrisMorgan 08:35:30 *** Horusofoz (~73a617b1@gateway/web/freenode/x-cbcgmxbjjkfcqdvz) has joined #portableapps 08:35:32 SPAM: http://portableapps.com/user/148054 08:36:36 *** Horusofoz has quit (Client Quit) 08:43:06 *** BjornH has quit (Quit: Leaving) 09:30:24 *** AGGELOS (~554ad974@gateway/web/freenode/x-yyyelbquhociqrph) has joined #portableapps 09:31:37 hi i am looking for manual for k-mplayer in greek..con you help me? 09:35:56 can* 09:40:13 *** AGGELOS has quit (Quit: Page closed) 10:00:42 *** jotylop (~5679ae97@gateway/web/freenode/x-ncrklmvvufvsrlgg) has joined #portableapps 10:08:54 *** jotylop has parted #portableapps (None) 10:21:02 *** Twinkletoes|W (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 10:29:15 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 11:01:48 *** dboki89 (~user@unaffiliated/dboki) has joined #portableapps 11:17:39 *** Kafkarudo (irssi@r186-48-18-132.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) has joined #portableapps 11:20:13 *** Spaceghost has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:24:51 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@p54B89742.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #portableapps 11:41:03 *** Twinkletoes|W has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:46:31 *** dboki89 has quit () 11:52:35 *** rouilj has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 12:07:51 Ahh... lots of work on the Installer, still lots to do with it tomorrow. Goodnight. 12:08:43 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 12:32:16 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... 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Bye!) 16:23:29 *** ZachThibeau_ (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 16:25:17 *** Dylan6599 (~chatzilla@72.10.97.71) has joined #portableapps 16:25:29 *** pa_8953 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 16:26:07 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16:26:45 Does anyone know what application will be released next? 16:28:27 nope :/ 16:32:10 :( 16:32:13 *** ZachThibeau_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:33:02 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@pD9E2667F.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 16:42:00 *** Dylan6599 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 17:02:28 *** pa_9562 (~416b45c3@gateway/web/freenode/x-lohczuxzzrxfuwlk) has joined #portableapps 17:02:48 *** pa_9562 has quit (Client Quit) 17:14:15 *** Simeon (~uws65698@129.69.21.92) has joined #portableapps 18:01:22 *** benedikt93 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18:06:06 *** qwertymodo (~Ben@140.211.141.49) has joined #portableapps 18:19:44 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18:23:31 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 18:24:43 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:06:28 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 19:30:20 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@pD95551DD.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:30:34 *** markomlm has quit (Client Quit) 19:40:21 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 19:52:59 *** Pyromaniac (~446b81bf@gateway/web/freenode/x-qfdqpowloaugcogo) has joined #portableapps 20:12:02 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 20:15:57 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 20:25:34 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 20:36:58 anyone: when is ${if} invalid? I keep getting that error 20:37:57 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 20:38:30 hey sar3th 20:38:38 hello Pyromaniac 20:38:55 I heard you were working on KDE portable? 20:39:55 I was going to try it, but then I heard you were working on it 20:40:35 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@pD9E258BB.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 20:42:24 yes, kind of 20:42:54 well, i don't have too much time at the moment, as i am swamped with work (studying= 20:43:05 if you want to take a look or help, yw 20:48:28 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:01:28 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 21:06:02 *** Pyromaniac has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21:16:02 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 21:28:59 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 21:29:01 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 21:29:49 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 21:50:54 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 21:50:54 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 21:52:57 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 22:10:42 *** Veixes (~Veixes@unaffiliated/veixes) has joined #portableapps 22:23:02 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:25:12 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 22:34:04 *** Simeon (~Itunes@dslb-094-216-005-218.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 22:34:10 hi all 22:34:28 Hi Simeon 22:34:39 hi Gringoloco! 22:35:01 You have been pretty active lately :) 22:35:12 posting a lot and such 22:35:33 ping@ ChrisMorgan 22:35:43 Morning, Simeon 22:35:56 Morning???its 0:30 here :) 22:36:20 that's early 22:36:42 .t AEST 22:36:43 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:38:52 AEST 22:36:48 yes I got hooked and cant stop until I got AssaultCube done :) 22:36:57 I have a question: I am currently working on getting AssaultCube working with PAL. 22:38:19 (Responded to your recovery question, should work) 22:38:23 I have a setting called RunWindowed=true so it runs windowd and I have no idea how to do that with a custom segment. 22:39:03 ok. it just occurred to me and I thought I ask if someone else thought about it 22:39:29 Yep. Seeing as release is planned for Tuesday NYC time I should see about it. 22:39:52 What does RunWindowed=true do: just a ${ConfigWrite} or similar, or does it change the execution string? 22:40:53 It is part of the AssaultCubePortableSettings.ini inside /Data/settings and adds "-t" to the exestring 22:41:11 Why Data/settings and not the main user overrides one? 22:41:11 I had it like this: Run: 22:41:11 newadvsplash::stop /WAIT 22:41:11 SetOutPath "$PROGRAMDIRECTORY\" 22:41:11 ExecShell "open" $EXECSTRING "-t1" SW_HIDE 22:41:11 Goto End 22:41:12 22:41:12 RunWindowed: 22:41:13 newadvsplash::stop /WAIT 22:41:13 SetOutPath "$PROGRAMDIRECTORY\" 22:41:14 ExecShell "open" $EXECSTRING "-t" SW_HIDE 22:42:20 So -t1 is fullscreen, -t is windowed. 22:42:50 I just had put it into AssaultCubePortableSettings.ini and not into the other one. Dunno why. 22:42:59 yes 22:43:11 What's the default? true or false? 22:43:19 actually, t1 is forced fullscreen as it does fullscreen if nothing is set 22:43:38 default is false or not set at all. 22:45:40 PortableApps.comLauncherCustom.nsh: http://pastebin.org/316879 22:47:00 Try that. I'm not entirely certain about whether HideCommandLineWindow works as I haven't actually tried it with anything. See how it goes. If it doesn't work, I'll try using ExecShell which will mean splitting $ExecString into two variables (executable and parameters). 22:47:13 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 22:47:15 Simeon: What's the reason for using ExecShell 22:48:14 I think it has something to do with the faact that I launch a bat file. Im not entirely sure anymore. It was Patrick who invented the run windowed-part of the launcher. 22:48:49 with PAL, I just execute the bat file like a normal exe and it works 22:49:38 Does it pop-up a console window? 22:49:49 How does it know what to read? Is that part of the ${ReadUserOverrideConfig}? 22:50:03 Gringoloco:Yes but I told PAL to hide it. 22:50:06 If you wanted you could put in custom code with the installer to transfer the value from Data\settings\AssaultCubePortableSettings.ini to AssaultCubePortable.ini 22:50:32 Chris: and put it into the main folder? 22:50:36 Simeon: yes, that does a ${ConfigRead} on it (thus achieving an INI file with no need for a header) 22:50:46 Simeon: Other\Source\PortableApps.comLauncherCustom.nsh 22:50:51 PAL is just becoming amazing :) 22:51:40 Simeon: hiding works? Good :-) 22:51:55 Yes.hiding works! 22:52:13 Personally I think I'd be more inclined to have it as a note for AdditionalParameters, in help.html. "To run AssaultCube in windowed mode, set AdditionalParameters=-t." 22:52:28 Though the separate value is neater. 22:52:53 i think i have to leave it the way it is cause otherwise upgrades will be a mess 22:55:08 Just wait... 22:55:24 Eeek! doesnt work :( I added RunWindowed=true to the ini in Data/settings and it still is fullscreen 22:56:57 AssaultCubePortable.ini, not in Data\settings. 22:57:10 oh 22:58:18 How does http://pastebin.org/316906 look? That would transfer the setting from Data\settings\AssaultCubePortableSettings.ini to AssaultCubePortable.ini for upgrades. 22:58:56 AssaultCubePortable.ini in the root folder as usual? 22:59:33 *** Veixes has parted #portableapps ("--------|") 23:00:00 doesnt work either 23:01:39 I presume you've recompiled the launcher after adding PortableApps.comLauncherCustom.nsh? 23:01:59 no but I added -t to the additionaparameters and it works. I guess Ill go with that and move the option. 23:02:14 forgot about the recompile :) 23:02:22 Also thinking over it, SegmentPre probably isn't such a good idea. Try using a line ${SegmentPreExec} instead. 23:02:34 That'll make it run a bit later when we're sure the command line has all been added. 23:02:41 added/calculated I mean 23:03:08 Watch-out: ${ConfigWrite} doesn't work if file doesn't exist yet 23:04:09 Ah yes, good point. 23:04:58 I recomiled it and it still doesnt work. I think adding it to the other ini is better/easier 23:05:07 and have the installer move the setting 23:05:13 So "FileWrite $2 $INSTDIR\AssaultCubePortable.ini a", "FileClose $2" to make sure that it exists in that installer code. 23:05:35 Hmm... why wouldn't it be working. It should be. 23:06:05 Try it... it just won't 23:06:05 If you want you could try putting in invalid code to make sure it's including the file and not missing it due to a wrong file name or something. 23:07:24 ? 23:08:06 I think its better put into the AssaultCubePortable.ini file as thats the ini users should edit. The other one isnt to be touched isnt it? 23:08:30 That's the general idea of it. 23:11:16 OK now it works. weird 23:11:52 Hmm. Wonder what changed. Clearly something did. 23:12:03 Now i can put the AssaultCubePortable.ini in the main folder (root), change RunWindowed=false to RunWindowed=true and it runs windowed 23:12:27 Good. 23:12:40 cool 23:12:52 now I have to put your pastebin into the installer to make sure the settings get transformed and then I can go to bed :) 23:13:11 So you're going with a special RunWindowed value? 23:13:57 yes 23:14:42 is there a reason why this isnt a good idea? 23:15:04 http://pastebin.org/316938 is probably better: that doesn't set RunWindowed if it's already set in AssaultCubePortable.ini (the target location), and it creates AssaultCubePortable.ini if it doesn't exist already. 23:15:17 Not at all. From a user perspective it's nicer. 23:15:30 How has your experience starting off with PAL been? Any things you reckon I could improve? 23:15:34 thats what I thought. More human-readable code :) 23:16:23 it took a little getting used to PAL but now its great. small progs with one settings file or so are VERY EASY to get done now :) 23:17:07 ChrisMorgan: FileWrite ??? 23:17:09 I was opposed to the idea at first but you won :) 23:22:07 Gringoloco: Why not FileWrite? 23:22:18 I got a compile error in macroline 5: ${AndIf} $1 == "" 23:22:25 FileOpen 23:22:34 Erk. Tes, 23:22:37 *Yes. 23:22:53 I said FileOpen earlier :P 23:23:06 Simeon one line down 23:23:15 Bye, got to go now. Back in forty minutes or so I hope. 23:23:22 ? 23:23:26 it's the line of the macro 23:23:35 so I need what? 23:23:43 I'll go to sleep soon 23:23:48 me too 23:24:17 Change FileWrite into FileOpen (was a typo) 23:24:24 ok 23:25:49 no error any more 23:25:51 THX 23:28:02 Ok, good night 23:28:07 gn 23:28:09 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:28:13 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23:33:30 .tell ChrisMorgan It didnt work.AssaultCubePortable.ini wasnt created. Ill have another look at it tomorrow. 23:33:30 Simeon: I'll pass that on when ChrisMorgan is around. 23:33:37 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 23:39:16 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 23:39:17 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com