00:02:22 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away 00:03:08 *** Kafkarudo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:07:36 *** gluxon|gone is now known as gluxon 00:14:18 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00:40:01 *** Pyromaniac has quit (Quit: Page closed) 00:45:05 *** Mir (~Mir@pool-71-109-164-140.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 00:45:34 *** Mir has quit (Client Quit) 00:46:07 *** Mir (~Mir@pool-71-109-164-140.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 00:48:00 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 00:50:01 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 00:50:01 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 01:00:34 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 01:05:06 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 01:05:21 *** ZachThibeau_ (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 01:08:41 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01:09:44 *** ZachThibeau_ is now known as ZachThibeau 01:16:02 *** JohnTHaller|food has parted #portableapps (None) 01:29:21 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 02:04:30 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 02:05:52 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 02:05:58 http://portableapps.com/node/23907 MIght want to take a look ChrisMorgan 02:06:05 *** ChrisMorgan1 (~ChrisMorg@c114-76-0-175.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #portableapps 02:06:06 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:06:27 *** ChrisMorgan1 has quit (Changing host) 02:06:27 *** ChrisMorgan1 (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 02:06:29 *** ChrisMorgan1 is now known as ChrisMorgan 02:07:01 and http://portableapps.com/node/23598#new 02:07:48 http://portableapps.com/node/23907 MIght want to take a look ChrisMorgan 02:09:16 Yep, I was just dealing with those. 02:09:22 Thanks :-) 02:10:17 np sir I was just reviewing new posts and noticed them, sorry If I bothered you 02:10:44 I be quite just sitting here updating and reading on python 02:11:32 A good topic to read up on :-) 02:11:33 quite=quiet 02:12:02 What in particular are you reading about? The language in general, GUI toolkits, web frameworks, other? 02:12:11 trying to figure out the webrowser control 02:12:33 In what? wxPython? PyQt? Other UI toolkit? 02:12:43 http://docs.python.org/library/webbrowser.html so I can modify it maybe to work on a pal drive 02:13:08 instead of loading host computer default browser 02:14:00 its is that or to write a bat file to load PA browser 02:14:33 Ah. 02:15:05 the author of the program I am working with uses that default script 02:15:16 so I looking a way to change it :) 02:18:19 Is it only used in one place? 02:18:28 also looking at teh config.ini to see if I can change it there 02:21:46 not sure let me show you what I am talking about http://tinypaste.com/84e3a 02:26:35 *** JohnTHaller|food (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:26:55 *** JohnTHaller|food is now known as JohnTHaller 02:27:21 that make sense now ChrisMorgan 02:28:00 howdy JohnTHaller 02:28:12 how was the food 02:28:41 hi 02:28:46 twas good. czech. and beer. 02:29:47 good that you enjoyed it then 02:31:12 indeed. now back to releases :-) 02:31:21 awesome then :) 02:33:02 vf2nsr: just checked out the code, used in three files. GIcon.py uses it to run mailto: links (on Windows), so the mail client will be opened (unless the browser invoked handles it otherwise) 02:34:07 tyvm will note that and look at in morning about time to turn in here 02:34:16 appreciuate assistance 02:34:24 And it can handle a bit of registering of browsers too. 02:34:40 ZachThibeau: Perl isn't in the current PChat pr 02:35:04 The BROWSER environment variable could be something like chrome;firefox and it'd then try to run chrome, then firefox, then the default, I think. 02:35:29 yup that what I was thinking 02:35:40 it should be John it's in the App/PChat/plugins under the name of xcperl.dll 02:35:44 (GMain.py, method fixWebBrowser) 02:36:12 ZachThibeau: I thought you meant the perl addon itself was included. Guessing it is not, right? 02:36:36 great got that open now so looking 02:36:39 no I meant the actual perl plugin, sorry for the misunderstanding 02:37:04 Then GBase.py has webbrowser.open(url, self.get_gconfig()["browser_action"]) - the second parameter is just to do with new window, new tab or default. 02:37:07 Ah ok. Our Perl addon is outdated then, right? We;'re at 5.10.1. 02:37:36 yeah 02:37:50 so it looks like many files would need modifing :( 02:38:12 vf2nsr: in short, if you want to register another browser, you'd need to make a new class, which could extend webbrowser.Mozilla, and register it in that method fixWebBrowser or thereabouts. 02:38:20 ZachThibeau: Are we using ActiveState or Strawberry, I can't recall 02:38:43 active state perl and here is the link for the zip x86 binary http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePerl/releases/5.10.1.1007/ActivePerl-5.10.1.1007-MSWin32-x86-291969.zip 02:38:57 ah ok then I got to figure out how to call the one loaded for PAL this may not be worth it after all :( 02:39:29 vf2nsr: it'd be fairly straightforward code, I think, and could be a useful module to have as it could be easily made generic and applied then to any Python program using the webbrowser module. 02:39:53 ZachThibeau: Ah, then we're not out of date 02:39:58 ChrisMorgan: for you maybe for me complex 02:40:30 It'd be the sort of thing we could also have cooperation from John with the Platform in - some environment variable to indicate the path to the portable web browser the user wishes to have as default. 02:41:05 JohnTHaller: yeah you could say that, mind you the perl plugin also only works with the current version of perl it was compiled on in this case the link I gave you 02:41:28 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:41:38 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Disconnected by services) 02:41:42 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 02:41:43 ChrisMorgan: What's being discussed re: The Platform 02:42:00 JohnTHaller: default portable browser path environment variable 02:42:06 well this is a bit to digest tonight falling asleep here at keyboard appreciate all your help will look more at it tomorrow thanks ChrisMorgan 02:42:06 Could be useful for later. 02:42:16 vf2nsr: I'll try to put together a script for you 02:42:21 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|lunc 02:42:25 *** ChrisMorgan|lunc is now known as ChrisM|lunch 02:42:27 ok ChrisMorgan|lunc thanks 02:42:31 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 02:42:38 Ah. It won't be needed with the platform, technically. The 2.0 final will have file associations built in and enabled by default, so just launching the standard browser will get you the portable one. 02:43:20 sounds cool :) 02:46:14 JohnTHaller: Did you read my post about 5 hours ago? 02:47:46 no what was ity 02:49:24 ZachThibeau: WHere is the PChat source? 02:49:29 (4:58:48 PM) gluxon: JohnTHaller: If it's not pushing it, could we do the official Eclipse Portable release on that day? 02:49:42 whast day is itt? 02:50:28 The release for 3.6, Helios. June 23rd. 02:50:32 ohh sorry JohnTHaller it's still on my computer and also on my svn, I'll clean up my local copy and zip it up 02:51:15 Ok. I need it to do the release. I'm a stickler for GPL compliance. 02:51:52 no problems ziping it up and uploading it to sf.net 02:51:58 gluxon: Yeah, I think that's a good idea. And I should be around for it. If you do the heavy lifting and package it all up, I think we should be good to go. 02:52:45 ZachThibeau: Ok, lemme know when it's up and I'll grab it and announce the release 02:52:59 sure thing 02:54:26 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 02:56:28 ok uploading now, may take a couple of min's due to my sluggish connection :/ 02:56:36 tis ok 02:56:51 btw - I finally updated the app directory to add the new security category and ditch OSes 02:57:23 should get fiber optic connection soon, it's supported where I live :D 60mp/s download :) and cool 02:57:51 I'd buy it if I could. I have the fastest I can get 30 down / 1 up. US$90 a month. 02:58:33 ouch our price for what the package I mentioned was $60 per month and I thought that was expensive 02:59:49 Joys of NYC. Only one provider goes above 5 down. No competition = overpriced 03:00:00 *** ChrisM|lunch is now known as ChrisMorgan 03:00:01 JohnTHaller: Sweet, thanks :) 03:00:06 I suppose so 03:00:50 I'm not convinced that Eclipse Portable is ready for release in its current state (in particular the launcher). Last time I went over it I made quite a few changes, I'd like to go over it again. And also see how it'd go with PAL. 03:01:10 ChrisMorgan: Okay, I'll pastebin EclipsePortable.nsi 03:01:25 Thanks. 03:01:28 I thought it was just a single registry key issue and we have no other apps using that same key yet 03:01:28 anyways PChat seems to be getting out there, already it's listed at http://b0at.tx0.org/xchat/ and also at ircresource.info too :) 03:01:39 Last time you saw it was when it was still using Labels :P 03:01:43 JohnTHaller: I'm meaning the whole launcher. 03:04:41 ZachThibeau: Where's my source? :-P 03:04:48 it's still uploading :P 03:04:54 eta? 03:04:56 74% 03:05:04 I say about 1-2 more minutes and it's ready 03:05:44 assumming my wifi doesn't give out :S 03:06:19 http://pastebin.org/341314 03:06:47 anyways I did some more work to the PChat gtk tray and I seriously think it's an issue with gtk on the win32 platform as my 64bit compile of PChat using the gtk 64bit library it works perfectly 03:07:08 D: upload just reset itself 03:07:56 thats it I'm just going to upload it to my ftp 03:08:39 it's uploading faster than sf.net is currently achieving atm 03:10:08 *** dabossbv (~dabossbv@97-218-21-190.adsl.terra.cl) has joined #portableapps 03:10:30 JohnTHaller: thinking along the Eclipse lines, we should have a JDK Portable installer. It should be practically the same as Java Portable, just a different download URL and MD5 checksum, I think. Same install directory, JDK includes JRE so it'll do instead of Java Portable for "normal" Java apps. 03:11:26 It isn't. We can't do a live installer for JDK as it can't be extracted properly. 03:11:37 And we don't have permission to do a full repackage. 03:11:40 Oh :-( 03:11:47 Otherwise we'd already have one 03:11:54 :'( 03:12:07 In that case, I think we should stall Eclipse Portable completely until we can have it, some way or other. 03:12:14 O_O 03:12:25 Stall Eclipse Portable for JDK? O_o 03:12:30 We can do a copy from local installer for it for peeps who need it 03:12:45 Like the Java Portablizer? 03:12:50 gluxon: it *depends* on it. If you can't install it properly, it's rather broken. 03:13:16 eclips only needs the jdk if you are coding java. anything else, it's ok 03:13:56 46% uploading to sf.net 03:14:19 I imagine most people are going to be using it as a Java IDE rather than an "anything else" IDE. Would I be incorrect in that imagination? 03:14:28 51%, it's looks like it's finally picking up steam 03:14:53 gluxon: as well as cleanup of old and redundant code so far, I've found one real bug; System::Call 'Kernel32::SetEnvironmentVariableA(t, t) i("PATH"", "$0").r0' 03:15:13 What's wrong with it? :( 03:15:45 "PATH"" 03:15:55 Oh, two quotes? 03:16:01 Meaning your setting of the PATH for MinGW won't have been working. 03:16:34 Doesn't matter though, Helios is the first release of Eclipse that actually starts looking for MinGW in Path. 03:16:37 56% John 03:16:55 Okay, thanks Chris, fixed. 03:17:26 Using GetFullPathName for $MINGWPATH and $JAVAPATH when they're relative will be buggy, I think, as it will be relative to the working directory. When launched from the Platform, this will be OK, but anywhere else and it may not. 03:18:03 68% :D 03:18:58 ChrisMorgan: So would it be better to just have ReplaceUpDir.nsh? 03:19:16 78% almost there 03:19:32 Personally I'd be inclined to just require ..\MinGWPortable and ..\CommonFiles\Java. 03:20:25 85% 03:20:39 the wait is killing me D: 03:20:49 I'd like to give the user a choice though. I wouldn't personallyy enjoy having those two paths stuck. 03:21:05 Really, those paths are /good for you/. 03:21:20 gluxon: I would have to agree with Chris on this one 03:21:53 I'm getting Code::Blocks to follow the same route, it just makes it easier in the long run 03:22:02 WriteINIStr "$PROGRAMDIRECTORY\configuration\.settings\org.eclipse.ui.ide.prefs" "${NAME}" "YouShouldNotSeeThis" "IfYouDoThatsBad" !?!? 03:22:16 Just inlcude MinGW in your package. And require Java Portable 03:22:19 .. lol, I didn't think I still had that in there :P 03:22:21 When then followed by FileOpen $0 "$PROGRAMDIRECTORY\configuration\.settings\org.eclipse.ui.ide.prefs" w that's utterly unnecessary :-/ 03:22:43 Hey, it works.. lol :P 03:22:43 JohnTHaller: MinGW is pretty big, and has uses of its own outside Eclipse, e.g. Code::Blocks. 03:22:47 ok JohnTHaller just 1 more minute 98% 03:23:01 Keeping sar3th|away's MinGW Portable as a separate package is a Good Plan. 03:23:22 ok uploaded sf.net is just getting it on to the mirrors now 03:23:27 I'd like to have it separate. Not all of us who use Eclipse Portable will need it too. 03:24:49 JohnTHaller: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pchatirc/files/pchatirc/Source%20for%20PChat%201.1/PChat11.7z/download 03:24:53 alread got it 03:24:59 awesome 03:25:54 and uploaded 03:26:00 and posted: http://portableapps.com/news/2010-06-18_-_pchat_portable_1.1 03:26:14 gluxon: for example, you have the path to NSIS Portable fixed. Requiring the best structure is by far the easiest, it should be applied to MinGW and Java too. 03:26:26 excellent :D 03:26:29 ChrisMorgan: No I don't. 03:26:41 The user can change the NSIS Portable dir within the GUI :/ 03:26:41 StrCpy $NSISPATH "$PARENTDIRECTORY\NSISPortable\App\NSIS" 03:26:52 Sure, but its initial value is fixed. 03:27:02 Likewise with MinGW I believe they can change it in the GUI? 03:27:21 Line 226 - 229 03:27:39 There's still a lot of code duplication between first and subsequent runs. I'm cutting it all down as much as I can. 03:27:42 ChrisMorgan: No, it can't do that locally either. 03:27:50 Nor can it with Java Portable :P 03:27:56 JohnTHaller: I'm going to remove the note about the language switching as it now is supported via the platform, is that ok with you 03:28:26 Sure 03:28:58 ChrisMorgan: To fix the GetFullPath issue, couldn't we just do SetoutPath "$EXEDIR" ? 03:29:16 I like to avoid changing the working directory if possible. 03:29:54 Why? What's wrong with it? We have almost all the launchers setting it to $PLUGINSDIR :P 03:30:11 No, we most certainly do not. 03:33:19 brb 03:33:28 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:36:45 gluxon: more improvements/fixes after our family Bible readings. 03:36:47 *** ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisM|ReadBible 03:38:51 ChrisMorgan: Thanks, but it's 11:38 down here and I just about have to go. Could you memoserv me? Thanks. :) 03:38:56 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 03:42:29 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 03:42:29 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 03:44:14 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: Goodbye, My Friends!) 03:46:59 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 03:57:12 anyways I'm going to hit the hay 03:57:12 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 03:57:47 night everyone 03:57:49 gnight zach 03:57:50 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:10:57 JohnTHaller, great job cranking out all these updates 04:11:02 thanks 04:24:22 *** ChrisM|ReadBible is now known as ChrisMorgan\ 04:24:25 *** ChrisMorgan\ is now known as ChrisMorgan 04:24:41 ChrisMorgan: Did you say you had a launcher.ini for ConvertAll already? 04:24:43 JohnTHaller: one thing which might be remotely worth while thinking about is that PChat 1.1 is using a new theme (non-native look) due to the wimp GTK theme being broken for the GTK version he's updated to. Thus the screenshot is out of date. 04:25:01 Ah ok. I'll take a look. 04:25:05 I did, I'll get it to you soon... just got to help my younger brother put a tube back on his bike. 04:25:33 Ok. I'm updating all those out of date ones and if it's already done it'll save me the time. 04:25:50 Debating between staying up late and finishing or doing it tomorrow morning 04:25:57 If there are any I can help with, please tell me them and I can do them too. 04:26:48 Nearly all are pretty straight forward. Just the time to recompile the launcher, sign it, package the installer, sign it, upload, etc. 04:26:57 Did I give you release access on SF? 04:38:22 Back. You did, or at least I can upload files, but I don't have the digital signature so you'd still need to do that bit. 04:38:44 Yeah. 04:38:56 (Unless you wanted to give me the digital signature, but I'd quite understand you not wanting to and expect it too.) 04:39:04 Actually, you could help me out by doing the source releases for the apps waiting to go (cept DVDStyler, which I am doing now). 04:40:01 Sure, I could do that. Even if I disagree with your interpretation of the GPL on that point :D 04:40:11 Disagree how? 04:40:42 A three year guarrantee that it'll be available is good enough; keep one copy of it, tell them it's available there, and if that were to go down, then on request you can give them your own personal copy. 04:41:03 According to the FSF's own FAQ, we have to host it. 04:41:10 That is how I have read the GPL, I've gone through it very carefully to decide that the common perspective that you need to host it yourself is wrong. 04:41:29 I know that but it doesn't mesh with the text of the GPL. There's nothing saying you can't do that though so we're all still happy :-) 04:41:43 It makes complete sense to require hosting the source 04:41:45 Personally I'd do it with the SourceForge interactive shell and wget... then I don't need to download and reupload. 04:42:16 Not sure about that. Possibly. But I don't think it matches what the GPL text requires. Let's not get into an argument about that though :P 04:42:46 If the FSF says to do it, their word is law. It's their contract. 04:43:28 I'm not sure about that. That's merely explanation of the GPL, the actual text of the GPL is what matters... 04:44:37 It can be interpreted multiple ways in multiple countries. Different ways. But if the FSF, the creators of the GPL, say that it's supposed to mean this, it makes the most sense to take them at their word. Hosting binaries and not source is unfair to upstream. 04:44:56 * ChrisMorgan shrugs 04:51:17 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 04:51:52 *** rouilj3 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 04:51:53 *** rouilj2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:52:27 *** rouilj has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04:53:44 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: Goodbye, My Friends!) 05:46:30 gnight all. the releases will be finished in the am 05:46:34 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 06:55:13 *** rouilj1 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06:55:57 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 06:58:48 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 07:31:04 *** Guest97431 (~David@CableLink-173-28-236.CPE.InterCable.net) has joined #portableapps 07:33:58 What portable browsers do we currently have: Firefox, Google Chrome official, and in development Iron, Arora, QtWeb and Midora; any that I've missed? 07:34:29 *Midori 07:37:27 *** Guest97431 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:40:01 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:40:01 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 07:42:11 *** David_ (~Davidacg@CableLink-173-28-236.CPE.InterCable.net) has joined #portableapps 07:42:11 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:42:14 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 07:53:38 Why does it always happen this way... I went to fix up a couple of minor problems in the development/test table and ended up processing the queue even though I'd meant to leave it alone... *sigh* 07:54:52 *** Farfar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:54:52 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 07:56:20 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Client Quit) 07:56:44 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 08:00:08 *** FireFox is now known as AwayFox 08:11:22 *** David_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:39:48 *** qwertymodo has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 09:00:44 *** Osmosis (462c05f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.44.5.249) has joined #portableapps 09:00:57 N E 1 alive? 09:01:26 <--- Can't seem to install CCleaner. Help? 09:15:11 Nevermind. I think I got the hang of it. 09:16:31 Download the slim version of Piriform installers/or zip file, change destination folder to USB portableapps folder. Unlug, replug USB, hide uninstallers from menu, all done. 09:17:05 did I get that right? 09:20:16 Osmosis: there's a portable version in development testing. It'll work properly with the Platform. 09:26:01 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 09:26:02 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:27:27 Yeah, I tried that one. Kept trying to DL a version, then gave me a "could find ccleaner.exe" error 09:28:04 They seem to be working just fine with the way I installed them. 09:37:50 Hrm, nope. Tried it on another PC, CCleaner works, Speccy works, but Recuva and Defraggler don't seem to respond at all. The menu icon is also missing for the ones that don't work. 09:43:27 Ok, so I'll have to wait. Thanks anyhow... 09:43:35 *** Osmosis has quit (Quit: Page closed) 10:40:39 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:41:06 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 11:02:43 There, got a script for vf2nsr to make Python apps that use webbrowser use a portable browser if possible. 11:08:01 Fascinating. Brackets break the DisplayVersion as StrReplace can't cope with an empty replacement string! 11:08:30 Presumably it shoves it along by the-length-of-that-string characters... 11:14:30 * ChrisMorgan tries to work out if there really /is/ such an *enormous* bug in Eclipse Portable or if his eyes are playing tricks on him 11:15:40 As far as I can tell, the version of the Eclipse Portable launcher I'm working with now has *never* worked with a portable installation of Java. 11:17:01 If Java isn't found, it assigns the value that it "should be" (the default), and runs it with -vm "$JAVAPATH". If Java *is* found earlier, it runs it /without/ the -vm parameter and so Eclipse never smells the slightest trace of a portable installation of Java. 11:17:55 Yep, it really was that bad. Eww. 11:20:43 Sorry gluxon, but I'm definitely recommending Eclipse Portable to get thoroughly tested now before going official. That's two bugs I would classify as critical I've found and fixed in it. And that means I don't think it'll be going out on the 23rd. 11:47:00 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 11:47:00 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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This StrRep bug (or is it an NSIS bug?) is (a) elusive to pin down and (b) silly. I'm giving up and just using WordReplace which Works. 11:55:13 Wait, I've got it. Deleting the /last character/ of a string with StrReplace breaks. 12:05:20 *whew* all fixed 12:17:01 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:17:01 *** Farfar (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 12:17:11 OK, all done for tonight. Goodnight. 12:17:14 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 14:05:01 *** Neoman (~Neoman@41.233.4.237) has joined #portableapps 14:07:12 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 14:11:00 *** ProgMan (~ProgMan@67-150-168-171.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com) has joined #portableapps 14:11:25 *** neomanna (29e904ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.41.233.4.237) has joined #portableapps 14:53:12 *** kaeos (~Miranda@84.76.55.235) has joined #portableapps 14:56:35 *** ProgMan has parted #portableapps ("Leaving.") 15:45:47 *** kaeos has quit (Quit: kaeos) 15:52:45 *** Chriz (~chris@cpe-98-154-161-209.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 15:57:03 *** Neoman has quit (Quit: Later!) 16:00:51 hi there 16:00:58 *** neomanna has parted #portableapps (None) 16:03:48 *** rouilj3 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 16:17:56 *** Kafkarudo (irssi@r186-48-6-163.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) has joined #portableapps 16:18:12 *** Kafkarudo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:20:06 *** pa_9691 (4fb2c84b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.178.200.75) has joined #portableapps 16:20:13 *** pa_9691 has quit (Client Quit) 16:24:15 *** Chriz has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:24:23 *** Mir has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16:33:23 *** AwayFox is now known as FireFox 16:33:47 *** pa_4857 (c9da7efa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.218.126.250) has joined #portableapps 16:36:10 *** Farfar has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:36:33 *** pa_4857 has quit (Client Quit) 16:37:21 ich bin jetzt erstmal weg 16:37:28 bis später 16:39:05 *** dabossbv has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 16:41:15 *** FireFox has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:45:08 *** pa_3988 (44f9c114@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.249.193.20) has joined #portableapps 16:47:57 *** FireFox (~firefox@ppp-70-246-25-4.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined #portableapps 16:50:24 *** pa_3988 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 17:26:04 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 17:30:19 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 17:50:34 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 18:01:34 *** Gringoloco (5b5c9884@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.92.152.132) has joined #portableapps 18:16:12 you might want to check the warzone portable update which has the songbird logo 18:17:30 fixed 18:28:23 JohnTHaller: Did you ac tually consider using 7z.exe v9.14 beta in PAI, http://portableapps.com/node/23741 18:28:51 Nope. Didn't want to use the beta. So I switched it to PLUGINSDIR for now 18:29:24 Which I later realized was a mistake, so I'm gonna switch it back and just leave it as is. 18:35:04 Think it's worth it to go to the beta? 18:37:16 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit... D:) 18:39:21 *** temp4746 (4fb2c84b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.178.200.75) has joined #portableapps 18:39:30 JohnTHaller: I found the bug 18:39:34 in audacity portable 18:39:54 http://portableapps.com/node/23919 18:41:28 JohnTHaller? 18:41:35 yes 18:41:43 So once you changed that, does it work for you? 18:41:49 Yep 18:42:03 odd that it works for me under the exact same conditions 18:42:11 Strange 18:42:42 Check Audacitys settings and see if it says System under language 18:43:00 right. but system for you should be english 18:43:18 System in my computer means Hebrew 18:43:27 There are mutiple locale settings in windows 18:43:35 you said it was english but hebrew non-unicode 18:43:52 ? 18:44:17 you said windows was in english. but you said locale to hebrew for non-unicode apps 18:44:36 I did the exact same thing and it came up in english as expected 18:44:49 Well there are 3 locale related settings in Windows 18:45:31 Date and time formats, Location, non-unicode locale... Audacity uses one of there for System... and it does this when Langauge is not set in its Audacity.cfg 18:45:36 meaning blank 18:45:41 date and time formats don't affect this 18:45:53 odd 18:46:07 anyway, looks like I know the fix now, thanks. I'll post a revision 18:46:14 :) 18:46:35 Windows is weird, who knows where 18:46:44 Audacity finds its System language 18:48:06 thanks john for bearing with me :P 18:48:21 thanks for helping figure it out :) 18:48:31 Youre welcome :) 18:50:29 *** ZachThibeau (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 18:50:30 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 18:50:50 howdy everyone 18:52:24 So with Default=en and DefaultIfNotExists=en it works properly, temp4746? 18:52:40 Yep 18:54:21 *** pa_1685 (c9da7efa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.218.126.250) has joined #portableapps 18:56:27 help 18:57:47 None of the apps launch on my friend's notebook running XP, yet they launch on all other computers I have used. What could be the issue? 19:02:34 Is it a work laptop? 19:03:49 No 19:04:19 what happnes if you try and download a portable app to the desktop, run it and just install it to the desktop directory and then try and run the app 19:05:09 I have not ried that. 19:06:19 It appears that there is something preventing running any apps from a removeable drive. 19:06:46 Windows can be set to disallow that. It's generally only done on corporate laptops, which is why I asked if it was a work laptop 19:08:18 It was used in a corporate network at one point. 19:08:38 That's probably why. It was set to disallow removable drive EXEs 19:08:47 Is there anyway to change this? 19:09:04 I can't recall offhand. It's a system group policy setting somewhere 19:09:43 OK. I will have to research this online. 19:10:00 Thanks. 19:10:10 You're welcome 19:15:17 JohnTHaller: Quote: 'Think it's worth it to go to the beta?' 19:16:21 I think we probably do not need to support forreign characters at all, since some/alot of apps wouldn't support it their selfs, anyway 19:16:40 true 19:18:29 The way it's setup now could potentially break the installer when a user has a username containing these chars (%USERPROFILE%) 19:26:06 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a81-84-170-85.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 19:33:20 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Page closed) 19:38:23 *** pa_1685 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 19:44:10 *** temp4746 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19:50:45 *** Mir (~Mir@pool-71-109-174-251.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 20:10:22 alright, ive started warzone 2100 portable 2.3.1 three times and each time it crashed right after the splash screen 20:16:30 *** FireFox has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 20:17:14 *** FireFox (~firefox@ppp-70-246-25-4.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined #portableapps 20:17:53 JohnTHaller, looks like openal32.dll is corrupt or something since when i run warzone with and without the launcher it crashes and without the launcher it gives a bad image error 20:25:40 *** temp4746 (4fb2c84b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.178.200.75) has joined #portableapps 20:30:38 JohnTHaller: Will you do the Audacity Rev today? 20:36:43 *** temp4746 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 20:50:52 *** ZachThibeau_ (ZachThibea@142.167.54.99) has joined #portableapps 20:50:53 *** ZachThibeau_ has quit (Changing host) 20:50:53 *** ZachThibeau_ (ZachThibea@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 20:51:38 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: Goodbye, My Friends!) 20:54:07 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20:57:27 *** Mir_ (~Mir@pool-71-109-174-251.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 20:57:27 *** Mir_ has quit (Client Quit) 20:57:43 *** Mir has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21:12:56 *** ZachThibeau_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:31:20 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop 21:32:11 *** Mir_ (~Mir@pool-71-109-174-251.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 21:34:37 *** Mir_ is now known as Mir 21:37:03 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 22:26:15 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 22:33:41 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 23:15:23 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Bye) 23:48:45 *** SergentSiler has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:49:00 *** SergentSiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 23:49:02 SergentSiler is a PortableApps.com Menu Themer, his theme website is http://silerhost.site50.net