00:15:49 ChrisMorgan: do you mind taking a look at a screenshot of PChat with it's new tree icons and tell me what you think of it 00:17:39 *** Pyromaniac__ has quit (Quit: Page closed) 00:17:58 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 00:25:32 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 00:27:44 ZachThibeau: where? 00:28:04 http://i50.tinypic.com/o9lh6q.png 00:28:44 just something thats a little bit better than dots that were originally there, just need your opinion if you like them or not or is it too much 00:29:58 I dunno. It still doesn't give a real indication of the level like the Pidgin star for op does. 00:30:29 but by far is it better than the dots? 00:30:37 Not decided yet. 00:30:52 I presume what you've got there is admin, op, halfop and voice? 00:31:55 I really don't have an opinion on it. It's different, that's all I can really commit to. 00:32:12 in that screenshot thats what it is purple is netop aka admin, red is netstaff which is 1 lower than admin and then you have op in green and halfop is blue and yellow voice 00:32:58 Ah. Not heard of netstaff before. 00:33:21 it helps to know all positions when running an ircd yourself :P 00:33:23 I was wondering a bit, as you had green for op before. If they're keeping the same colours, that's a good thing. 00:33:41 I'm actually an admin on an irc server 00:34:42 As for better or worse... they're bigger, which for a large screen size is probably helpful but for a small size is probably not so good. Not sure about the person versus dot aspect of it. 00:35:06 I can see some of the delema of that a little 00:36:00 but right now it's minor at this time, my main goal is adding some new and technically some lost features to PChat ala spell check and graphical smiley support 00:37:05 Another thing you could try, only going as far as considering op and halfop, would be star for op and star with the right hand half semitransparent for halfop. 00:38:41 I'll definetly keep that in mind 00:38:43 If using people icons it looks a bit weird if the non-promoted people... aren't people. 00:39:06 well I'm actually torn from using tango or using something from the oxygen iconset 00:39:50 Also admin and op aren't intrinsically linked as far as I can tell - an admin may be op or may not be? 00:40:37 Just looking at how Mibbit does it, it puts a key for admin and a star for op, over on the right hand side of the username (inline, not block) 00:40:47 actually no op and admin are 2 different things, admins have higher privvies such as juping services restarting servers kill usersnames from the server altogether etc 00:41:07 Yeah, admin is a role, op is a state in a channel. 00:41:21 an admin will always be admin - but they can be not op in a channel? 00:41:38 yes they can actually 00:42:26 and actually most admins usually have the a +a or a +q which is higher than the op flags which will elevate them higher than the op in the userlist 00:44:34 and even if you aren't techinically with those flags as long as you are logged in as admin you can still control a channel using services by kicking users via a module in atheme called sakick etc 00:49:10 *** coder09 has parted #portableapps (None) 00:57:59 *** Mir (~Mir@pool-72-67-18-26.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 00:58:03 *** Mir has parted #portableapps (None) 00:58:34 ChrisMorgan: fif you see my post about webbrowser.py? 00:58:43 fif=did 01:00:13 Up to you, I think. 01:00:32 A hard decision. 01:00:47 yup I wrote to author to see his take 01:01:14 working on looking at code to change to save config and error logs to the PA place 01:01:34 and if he wants me to rename even have a name picked out 01:01:52 but don't want to do anything to anger anyone 01:03:49 And /that/ is often harder than the rest. 01:04:27 what the anger or the name lol 01:04:38 or code 01:13:56 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) has joined #portableapps 01:21:30 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 01:21:30 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 01:22:05 cool never seen that before 01:37:48 ChrisMorgan: can I shoot you a quick pm? 01:39:02 or you to me? 01:42:17 Sure 02:01:35 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 02:10:09 *** AppGuy (~AppGuy@unaffiliated/appguy) has joined #portableapps 02:15:45 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: Goodbye, My Friends!) 02:36:31 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:50:39 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 02:52:24 *** Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 03:03:13 *** Jak (db89efc3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.219.137.239.195) has joined #portableapps 03:03:23 hi all 03:04:10 Could I install MSN Messenger on PortableApp? 03:06:24 no it's to intergrated into windows to be made portable however we have 2 alternatives to msn (programs that will allow you to sign into the msn network that is) 1 is being Pidgin Portable which is a multi protocal instant messenger program that supports the msn protocal or there is amsn which is a messenger clone in looks that supports signing into the msn messenger protocal as well 03:08:53 thx, how about winzip? 03:09:04 these both are the software I use daily 03:09:23 I want to take them to portableapp 03:10:47 winzip is shareware, we have an alternative called 7-ZipPortable which supports zip creation and extraction also supports rar extraction as well as it's own format called the 7z format 03:12:58 and best of all it's completely free 03:14:41 and IMHO a better program 03:15:13 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:15:29 howdy JohnTHaller 03:15:44 hola 03:17:01 finally dropped subdreamer that I had installed on pchat-irc.com, ported everything to wordpress posts and theme and I must say I'm glad to be finally to be rid of that horrible buggy cms 03:17:47 wordpress is pretty solid for simple blog-ish sites 03:17:58 I have my girlfriend on it and another couple friends now that I host 03:18:34 and I'm importing my svn of PChat to launchpad and hopefully I can get PChat into some linux software repository and it's pretty solid as a cms too, a few plugins and a good theme it's a pretty good platform 03:20:25 is it a portable edition of Winamp? 03:21:07 ZachThibeau: You still cool with PChat update coming out as 1.1 Rev 2? 03:21:52 yeah I am 03:22:01 Ok, i'll post it tomorrow 03:22:09 sounds good 03:24:42 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 03:27:16 ZachThibeau: Could you package up the full 1.1 r 2 package and host it somewhere fopr me to snag? I don't want to worry about messing something up packaging it myself 03:27:46 sure 03:28:00 Jak: no, but Songbird Portable is an alternative to Winamp 03:28:01 I'll have it ready by tomorrow and send you an email 03:28:10 Ok cool 03:29:32 night everyone 03:29:34 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|ZzZz 03:29:36 gnight man 03:42:27 *** Jak has quit (Quit: Page closed) 03:45:56 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 03:53:24 *** computerfreaker (~computerf@unaffiliated/computerfreaker) has joined #portableapps 03:53:25 computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and TopOCR, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback 03:55:48 hey ChrisMorgan, could I talk to you for a moment? I'd like your opinion on a change I've been requested to make to Iron Portable. 03:55:49 ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'On Jun 21, 2010 @ 16:22 GMT' (file "/phenny/modules/tell.py", line 132, in getReminders) 03:56:21 Impressive. 03:56:24 computerfreaker: fire away 03:56:32 thanks 03:56:32 ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'On Jun 21, 2010 @ 16:22 GMT' (file "/phenny/modules/tell.py", line 132, in getReminders) 03:57:44 a couple of users are asking about changing the default downloads folder for Iron Portable; currently it's My Documents/Downloads. I'm not sure what to do; on one hand, the request is reasonable. On the other hand, we're not really supposed to mess with app settings unless they affect portability, and I know FFP's default download location is also My Documents\Downloads. Thoughts? 03:57:44 ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'On Jun 21, 2010 @ 16:22 GMT' (file "/phenny/modules/tell.py", line 132, in getReminders) 04:02:15 *** GizmoBot has parted #portableapps (requested by ChrisMorgan ((Removed until reminder bug is fixed... someone's trying to tell computerfreaker something...))) 04:03:23 You should be able to set the default to "let the user specify the path". I think I'd probably go with that. Then they can change it if they want? 04:04:50 yeah, I can do that. I've already looked at Iron's settings file, and it's actually a pretty simple matter to tell Iron to ask the user what downloads folder to use. The real question, I think, is "what should the default downloads folder be?" (like Firefox, Iron will create the folder if it doesn't exist, regardless of whether it asks the user for the download location or not) 04:05:36 I'm toying with the idea of using the desktop folder as the default downloads folder, but once again the "hands off" philosophy doesn't go well with that. 04:16:51 *** Veixes (~Veixes@unaffiliated/veixes) has joined #portableapps 04:21:02 *** Veixes has quit (Quit: Cash) 04:23:52 *** OliverK (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 04:25:50 *** computerfreaker has quit (Quit: Bye!) 04:26:06 *** Veixes (~Veixes@unaffiliated/veixes) has joined #portableapps 04:26:28 *** Veixes has quit (Client Quit) 04:26:50 *** Veixes (~Veixes@unaffiliated/veixes) has joined #portableapps 04:27:29 *** Veixes has quit (Client Quit) 05:38:30 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:39:36 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 05:39:37 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 05:41:12 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 06:43:41 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 06:51:24 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 07:00:24 I'm starting to worry that there isn't anybody testing the uTorrentP DT 07:01:52 *** pa_6724 (5f592810@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.89.40.16) has joined #portableapps 07:04:34 Hallo, anyone around? I have a "Toucan" query 07:05:19 Good morning all 07:05:26 morning 07:05:56 Can you give me some information on "Toucan"? 07:05:59 sorry, I can't help you with toucan. But if you leave a note in the forums, I've sure that Steve, the developer will get back to you on that 07:06:14 if its a basic question, by all means ask 07:07:12 That sounds good. I have 2.2 installed and I want to uninstall it - however I can't find the routine. How I do I go about uninstalling i? That's all I need to know. 07:07:21 oh, that's easy 07:07:31 Not for me! 07:07:33 just delete the toucan folder :) 07:07:44 should be in X:\portableapps 07:07:51 change x to the letter of your drive 07:07:56 Ok, that is really easy. I won't jigger up the works? 07:08:11 nope, all you do is lose everything related to toucan 07:08:26 if you want to update, you should be able to just install over the current folder 07:08:58 Oh really? I have it on an external hard drive. 07:09:07 yup 07:09:34 That's great. Thank you so much. I'll give it a try. Thanks again and cheers! 07:09:41 no problem 07:10:00 *** pa_6724 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 07:17:32 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 07:25:40 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 08:45:06 *** vf2nsr (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 09:09:09 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: I am I was Now I gone) 09:40:32 *** Twinkletoes (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 10:09:33 Well, yesterday I let that user Paul Adam go with just removing the homepage link and signature... although he's not a bot, he's continued spamming self-promotional stuff. 10:26:34 *** pa_0901 (4fb2c84b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.178.200.75) has joined #portableapps 10:26:42 http://portableapps.com/node/23994#comment-152313 , is a bit suspiciouse as well 10:27:28 It's basacilly just advertising Prayaya V3, to buy 10:28:06 *** pa_0901 has quit (Client Quit) 10:30:36 Every article on there seems to be doing that. 10:31:19 But it also does give reasonable (well, ...) mention of our stuff... I'd be interested to know if the user gets paid at all by the Prayaya V3 group. 10:32:16 Reasonabilly, not sure. It's just an intruduction, which ends up in open-source not being trust worthy 10:34:37 I could just delete the comment and leave the user... and see if they (a) don't do it again because they're not interested in doing it, (b) take the hint or (c) continue. 10:35:15 A bit earlier I was just trying to work out what this Prayaya V3 software /is/. Technical details of how it works are pretty sparse. 10:35:42 I agree ! btw, did you see the date of the blogspot : Wednesday, 23 June 2010 10:36:17 I suspesct it's some thing like Ceedo 10:38:27 That's my best guess. 10:39:46 Anyway Portableapps is all I need, and a bit of svs 10:45:15 What do you reckon; should I delete the comment? 10:46:54 Give him the benefit of the doubt, and just delete the link, he's been a member for a week and five days, and this is his first comment 10:58:08 Thanks. 11:04:13 got to go now, bey 11:04:54 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 11:11:07 *** a-the-lex (5f589143@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.88.145.67) has joined #portableapps 11:11:09 hi! 11:11:11 :) 11:11:37 I wonder wether there is a portableapps-installer for linux, too!? 11:12:46 I'd love NOT to use windows. 11:13:22 *** BjornH has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11:13:46 one alive in here? 11:17:31 a-the-lex: you can use almost all our apps in Wine, but there are no native Linux versions of them. 11:18:11 ChrisMorgan: I'd like using the installer in linux. 11:18:26 The installers will work fine in Wine, but you still need to have Wine installed. 11:18:53 lol... sure wine needs to be installed first befor using it! 11:18:57 ;) 11:19:34 To run the installer in Linux too. 11:19:43 k... 11:19:48 I'll try that. 11:21:00 Thanks ChrisMorgan ! 11:21:06 bye! 11:21:09 o/ 11:21:10 You're welcome; bye! 11:21:25 *** a-the-lex has parted #portableapps (None) 11:24:22 Hmm... working with PyQt there's this constant QString problem... why can't they just use proper Python Unicode strings? 11:38:40 Wonder what it'd look like in Windows... that'd mean getting Python and PyQt set up though... *sigh* 11:49:22 Amazing. It worked first time in Windows. 11:52:45 Less pretty in Server 2003 than Ubuntu... but both will be less pretty than on Vista or 7 where the command link button is /properly/ implemented. 12:15:11 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12:19:26 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 12:31:35 *** BjornH has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12:31:36 *** Simeon (~uws65698@nw2pc58.stud.uni-stuttgart.de) has joined #portableapps 12:31:58 hi all 12:33:53 Gizmokid2005|AFK: Just read your converstion from yesterday about the infrarecorder/mp3 thing. the actual MP3 plugin comes as a separate download for that exact reason so there is no problem at all. 12:37:48 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 12:38:39 *** Twinkletoes_ (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 12:40:01 *** Twinkletoes__ (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 12:41:15 *** Twinkletoes has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12:43:15 *** Twinkletoes_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:09:00 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 13:11:52 *** Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 13:27:33 *** GizmoBot (~GizmoBot@vps.gizmokid2005.com) has joined #portableapps 13:27:33 GizmoBot is the official bot of #Gizmokid2005 and #PortableApps. 13:44:06 *** arkadycc (c06482ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.100.130.238) has joined #portableapps 13:45:58 *** arkadycc has parted #portableapps (None) 15:02:47 *** BeckySanderlin (~BeckySand@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 15:03:00 Hello 15:03:08 hello BeckySanderlin 15:03:22 question: Im trying to revert back to VLC 1.0.5. 15:03:27 is there a way i can? 15:03:33 do you have those earlier files? 15:03:36 yes 15:03:40 they are on our sourceforge project page 15:03:46 http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/ 15:03:49 there ^ ? 15:03:56 yep 15:03:58 500 error 15:04:05 sf ate them 15:04:17 have them anywhere else? 15:04:23 we can't fix sf unfortunately :( they've probably got an issue they're working on 15:04:24 nope 15:04:47 ok. i ll just have to wait i guess. thank 15:05:12 yw 15:05:25 do you know what is up w/ the new VLC and the font cache thing? 15:05:31 Nope 15:05:33 like.. why it continously updates 15:05:40 I don't use VLC very much...and haven't even run the new version 15:05:53 yah, me neither.. getting to be a big pain trying to watch my shows 15:06:05 well, i use it a great deal.. but.. 15:06:18 now ill have to use MPlayer, which W7 does not like at all 15:07:58 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 15:09:07 BeckySanderlin: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/VLC%20Media%20Player%20Portable/VLC%20Media%20Player%20Portable%201.0.5/VLCPortable_1.0.5.paf.exe/download 15:09:09 there you go 15:09:45 *muah* 15:09:47 thanks so much!! 15:09:54 now i can revert back..! 15:09:57 yw BeckySanderlin 15:10:03 SF has it's issues, just gotta be persistent 15:10:13 it's like a stubborn teenager at times 15:30:52 *** ZachT|ZzZz is now known as ZachThibeau 15:36:15 *** Twinkletoes__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 15:52:20 nice analogy Gizmokid2005 xD 16:03:14 *** rouilj has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 16:04:23 *** BeckySanderlin has quit (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client) 16:24:51 *** joby_toss (~joby_toss@92.85.232.255) has joined #portableapps 16:29:51 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 16:55:38 *** Pyromaniac_ (446b81bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.107.129.191) has joined #portableapps 17:09:53 *** LinkSlayer64 (~LinkSlaye@c-71-233-56-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 17:10:58 I realize this is the portableapps "support" channel, but can I ask a non-portableapps related question? 17:12:02 yes, if someone knows, they will usually answer 17:12:03 LinkSlayer64: you can, don't expect an answer though 17:12:44 (its not support for other software btw) well, ok, I just wanna know, what IRC clients is anyone using? 17:12:53 ah 17:12:58 XChat it is for me 17:13:15 KVIrc for me 17:13:30 sar3th, b4 they turned shareware? 17:13:40 I'm using the one on the website 17:13:46 no, i use the shareware version, but i did not have the time to buy it yet LinkSlayer64 17:14:19 mkay, thanks people 17:14:34 LinkSlayer64: you can also give PChat a try 17:14:45 that's a free XChat clone maintained by ZachThibeau :) 17:14:55 I'd like to try pchat, but I just mean non-portable, 17:15:23 I'm currently using an unofficial free build of X-Chat, called X-Chat 2 17:15:42 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 17:15:44 that is possible as well as far as i know LinkSlayer64, it can be used just the same way as xchat 17:17:18 well, yes, but, well, I dunno why, for some reason, I like to keep portable portable, and use non-portable on my machine 17:17:55 though maybe I will do pchat now, what I just said seems a little silly looking back at it 17:18:18 well, thanks for the time, and the apps! 17:18:22 *** LinkSlayer64 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 17:18:31 no, but i meant there are two editions, PChat and PChat Portable 17:18:33 :( 17:26:41 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 17:44:52 *** Pyromaniac_ has quit (Quit: Page closed) 17:48:07 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 17:57:24 *** ZachThibeau_ (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 18:00:23 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:07:08 *** pa_0529 (bc1ab4c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.26.180.201) has joined #portableapps 18:07:10 *** ZachThibeau_ is now known as ZachThibeau 18:07:13 hello 18:07:25 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:07:54 could anybody help me with some questions regarding making an application portable 18:09:23 anybody please 18:11:39 *** Pyromaniac_ (446b81bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.107.129.191) has joined #portableapps 18:11:46 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a81-84-170-85.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 18:16:26 pa_0529: yes please, ask your question 18:16:31 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|AFK 18:25:25 sar3th: yes 10x 18:25:37 I don't understand the procedure 18:25:43 I have a software of my own 18:25:52 perfectly portable as it is\ 18:26:33 I made the appinfo.ini 18:26:40 and the rest 18:27:12 pa_0529: sounds like you need to read the spec some more 18:27:23 http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format 18:27:36 i did that 18:28:00 I have respected the format 18:28:07 what I don't understand 18:28:12 is the installer 18:28:21 what don't you understand? 18:28:28 *** Simeon (~uws65698@129.69.21.92) has joined #portableapps 18:28:49 it asks me to give him 18:28:54 hi all 18:28:58 hello Simeon, support 18:29:01 i see 18:29:04 what to create the laucher for 18:29:15 not sure I understand pa_0529 18:29:21 did you create a launcher? 18:29:26 nope 18:29:41 that's what I don't understand 18:29:54 .def field_guide 18:29:54 field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868 18:29:54 the first step of that wizard 18:29:59 ^^ read that pa_0529 18:30:49 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 18:31:08 *** MaienM|AFK is now known as MaienM 18:31:09 I read that too 18:31:37 from point 12 18:31:45 there's not much explination 18:32:10 pa_0529: that's because all of the explanation is handled before that 18:32:25 you have to modify a launcher from a current application to meet your specific needs 18:33:16 pa_0529: you could also try using this: http://portableapps.com/node/23591 18:38:39 I think I'm gonna give up 18:38:46 it's way too much hassle 18:38:59 for something you can make portable with copy paste 18:39:43 and if its portable the platform will show them too if you want. 18:40:29 *** pa_3478 (4afeeca2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.254.236.162) has joined #portableapps 18:40:38 hi pa_3478 18:40:48 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 18:41:06 it's portable... the only changes it does to the registry is if thee user wants to autostart 18:41:26 pa_0529: then the launcher would be very easy to make 18:41:36 I just loaded your latest updates and my Kaspersky anti virus found a bunch of viruses during the vlc install. 18:42:29 do you want me to throw up a quick launcher to give you an idea pa_3478 ? 18:42:34 It isn't a problem for me just wanted to let you guys know. Maybe the detection was behavior based. 18:42:45 oh - did you check with another virus scanner so you know whether they are false positives? 18:43:20 we run all of our releases thru online scanners before they go public so its probably a false alarm 18:43:22 Not yet, but I will when I get home from work. Have different antivirus there. 18:43:36 Pyromaniac.... that wuld be great 18:43:41 Probably a false positive. 18:43:50 k pa_0529 18:43:55 Bye 18:43:58 pa_0529: it's more than likely a False positive 18:44:00 happens frequently 18:44:46 Just wanted to let you guys know, none of the other programs caused an issue. 18:45:25 *** pa_3478 has quit (Client Quit) 18:45:52 pa_0529: its Dont Panic! right? 18:46:02 right 18:46:11 nice guess! :) 18:46:41 the needs of my program are extremly basic 18:46:46 everything is self contained 18:47:06 how does it store its settings 18:47:21 next to the exe 18:47:23 there is a folder 18:47:30 in the folder is a file 18:47:46 that stores the settings 18:47:54 ok - thats easy 18:48:27 it can very well run with copy paste to the disk 18:48:42 I supply an SFX just for that 18:48:53 but since I noticed people are interested here 18:48:55 do you have an NSIS Editor? 18:49:05 yep 18:49:06 the advantage of having it in the paf format is that you can backup your settings with the backup tool built into the platform 18:51:44 ok, um, have you lookded at the old development tests? 18:51:59 pa_0529: and seen the source codes? 18:52:19 yes 18:52:21 seen it 18:52:32 do you know NSIS? 18:52:35 guided by them 18:53:02 ok, well what don't you understand? 18:54:44 i don't really know nsis 18:54:54 what experience I have with it 18:54:59 ah, ok 18:55:07 is that I made the installation wizard 18:55:13 for my application 18:55:27 which I generated using HM NIS Edit 18:55:36 and with each version 18:55:40 I modify it 18:55:46 on a "when needed" basis 18:56:14 ah, ok 18:56:51 have you changed much from 1.2? 18:58:23 not really 18:59:55 ok, almost done here, I'm going to run a few test and show you in a few pa_0529 19:00:13 thank you very much 19:02:35 so all your settings are in bin\options.cfg 19:02:39 and 19:02:41 yep 19:02:45 bin\stats.dat? 19:02:50 yep 19:02:53 ok 19:03:20 and, do you know off the top of your head what the name of the regkey is that it leaves behind? 19:03:35 yep 19:03:42 none 19:03:47 wait 19:03:53 let me check 19:04:50 ok 19:05:46 so... 19:05:50 there are 2 19:06:06 ok 19:06:16 one in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE 19:06:29 Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run 19:06:42 (when autostart in on) 19:07:03 HKEY_CURRENT_USER 19:07:13 Software\Microsoft\Windows\ 19:07:19 (for checking) 19:07:42 but that's created and deleted 19:08:44 ok, and the autostart key your reffereing to is for starting the app with Windows? 19:08:49 yes 19:08:57 ok, we can get rid of that 19:09:54 so HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run is the whole path or is it like HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\dontpanic 19:10:12 yep 19:10:37 ok 19:11:06 HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run 19:11:49 and I write a value in there 19:12:45 ok, let me add some code, and I think I am almost done... 19:13:42 k 19:14:25 *** BjornH has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19:17:18 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:17:29 http://pastebin.org/356792 19:17:44 thats the launcher, I haven't tested it yet, but I will right now 19:24:03 Pyromaniac_: why are you backing up the /ENTIRE/ Run key? 19:24:12 you should only check for and delete the SUBkey 19:24:21 it's very very bad form to backup that entire entry 19:25:17 i'll have to digest this 19:25:34 the host machine can modify that key at any time 19:25:40 so backing up the whole thing is not acceptable. 19:25:44 it needs the exact key 19:26:12 so pa_0529 do you know the name of the key that is entered in "KCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run"? 19:26:19 yep 19:26:20 sure 19:26:53 let me find it 19:27:14 ok 19:27:19 Don't Panic! Application 19:27:25 that is the exact name 19:27:44 *** pa_0529 is now known as [adriantc] 19:27:50 so its... "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\Don't Panic! Application"? 19:27:55 <[adriantc]> yep 19:28:11 <[adriantc]> nick adriantc 19:28:20 *** [adriantc] is now known as adriantc 19:28:53 hmmm, that quote in Don't could cause problems 19:29:41 ok... 19:29:45 Pyromaniac_: Don't worry about the quote 19:29:47 i could change it 19:29:53 from the software 19:30:22 No just for the value it self in the reg file 19:30:46 ok... lets see here 19:31:33 But arent they values in run, instead of keys? 19:31:52 what? 19:32:01 I just compiled without problems 19:32:21 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:32:24 let me test it now... 19:34:25 I just tested, seems to work fine 19:35:38 somebody should write a start to finish tutorial for this 19:35:48 I'm sure more have given up 19:36:11 to make their application portable 19:36:28 i am adriantc 19:36:42 i'm launching my website on my birthday 19:36:53 that would be great 19:36:55 and on it, there will be a tutorial 19:37:11 on idiot proof tutorial 19:37:38 I for one have a job, develop a commercial software 19:37:46 and 2 open source ones 19:38:00 not much spare time 19:38:27 ah 19:38:30 and since I try to release updates as soon as possible spending hours on an installer is pretty bad 19:39:32 it's great your doing a tutorial 19:39:37 yeah, thank god we have a PortableApps.com Installer that does it for us! 19:39:52 Its soooooo long right now, though 19:40:17 yeah... maybe someday they could make all of it 19:40:22 like a wizard 19:40:28 like nsis for example 19:40:34 to let you customize the code 19:40:44 and in case you don't want to go that deep 19:41:14 just use some kind of wizard 19:41:52 a guy is working on that 19:41:56 because they should incourage authors of the software to post their software 19:42:03 not others 19:42:29 since they don't know exacly when a new version is released and so on 19:44:56 or what a version is all about 19:46:21 so, do you want to release this in the beta forums, or do you want me to (or someone else?) or just not release it? 19:47:13 I would like to be released... don't really care who is the author 19:47:42 I would prefer to be me because 19:47:52 I will update it when the time comes 19:48:10 + I may like to release some of the other programs I have 19:54:09 I'm running a few more tests 19:54:49 well thanks for the effort 20:01:39 you say you want to release it. If any bugs were to appear, how would you adress them? 20:02:16 that would be a problem... 20:02:42 don't really think there will be bugs related to portableapps 20:03:01 if the software has bugs... that's a different story 20:03:11 yeah, oh and as for the developer of the original app, do you want me to put adriantc ? 20:03:39 yeah 20:03:53 ok 20:04:11 thing is I want to update it 20:04:24