00:00:08 although I suppose if a mod decides it does contain a lot of useful information that most users would benefit from knowing they could decide to pin it 00:00:22 their names are mentioned in the header of the forums 00:00:27 Moderators: .... 00:01:10 pa_5740: it's not really the sort of topic that gets stickied in our forums. 00:01:18 I'm not even sure whether a normal mod could do that or whether it'd take an admin like CM or JTH to do it 00:01:28 MaienM: Speaking of useful information, is my topic useful? Gizmokid2005 said a while back that he didn't get the point of my topic. 00:03:06 It was mainly just a form-letter response from MPEG LA, wasn't it? It's information which is fairly readily available on their website, and just saying /why/ it can't be redistributed (patent licensing). That's right, isn't it? 00:03:31 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 00:04:05 pa_5740: I don't know, I didn't really look into it that much to be honest so I can't really judge that 00:04:29 ChrisMorgan: Well, there are some specifics that aren't spoken about on their sites that are mentioned in my thread. 00:05:14 ChrisMorgan: Of course, I might not have it set up in the best fashion, so I'm open to suggestions. 00:07:29 ChrisMorgan: Actually, to my knowledge, the info concerning MPEG-2, MPEG-4 & H.264 that I have posted isn't on the website. 00:07:54 ChrisMorgan: I'll check quick. 00:11:45 ChrisMorgan: I more or less breezed through it, but I didn't see anything like the details I posted. 00:12:50 ChrisMorgan: Can I PM you about something? 00:12:55 Sure 00:19:51 *** SeraphX3 (~seraph@68.185.241.5) has joined #portableapps 00:22:30 *** SeraphX3 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:22:38 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 00:22:53 *** SeraphX2 (~Ceryph@68.185.241.5) has joined #portableapps 00:23:45 So, Windows7 doesn't like Autorun.inf. How do I get PortableApps to launch automatically when I plug my USB drive into a Windows7 PC? 00:24:35 SeraphX2: there's a small utility for the purpose which you can install to a host machine 00:24:50 .g portableapps.com autorun/autoplay test 00:24:50 ChrisMorgan: http://portableapps.com/node/13770 00:28:06 *** Jonathan___ (be5798bc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.87.152.188) has joined #portableapps 00:28:09 Hi 00:28:19 can any one help me? 00:28:22 Sure 00:28:44 i want to create a short cut 00:28:53 i no speak english 00:28:58 so plis understend me 00:28:59 .def addingotherapps 00:29:01 jajajjajaja 00:29:01 ChrisMorgan: Sorry, but I don't know about addingotherapps 00:29:06 .def addingapps 00:29:06 addingapps is about adding applications to the PortableApps.com Menu; read http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingapps for details. 00:29:30 Try reading that section; I think that's what you're wanting? To add items to the PortableApps.com Menu? 00:33:36 that sucks...i mean, in a way, it almost makes portable apps inconvenient 00:34:09 POrtable Apps needs to develop a Windows Service that you can optionally install 00:34:17 that does the same thing as this dude is trying to do 00:36:52 Actually, hmmmmm...mebbe i could do this......a portable app with a GUI that you install on your USB drive that allows you to customize how the Service behaves and installs/deletes the service. 00:37:17 SeraphX2: that's what that utility does. It launches on system startup, not as a service, though. There's no need for it to be a service, it doesn't need administrative privileges or anything like that. 00:39:13 yeah...but it's either running a GUI, or it's not...if it runs a GUI it's extra resources..if it's not...you can't have settings unless you edit a file manually. 00:39:33 it seems PA would make something like this standard though seeing Windows7 wants to be a pain 00:40:26 oh wait....he says "part of the next platform release" does that mean they are integrating this? 00:40:46 i mean, this post is from 2008 00:40:53 and i don't see that functionality in PA 00:41:13 That was something he was toying with at the time. I don't believe John's planning on having it in the next beta of 2.0, but maybe it'll go in at some point. 00:43:07 besides...i don't like "half-assed" programs...is that thing even fully complete? it's called a test...doesn't say anything is officially good or "bugless" 00:43:54 It's a pretty simple thing. 00:47:41 *** SeraphX2 has parted #portableapps (None) 00:49:31 *** sja5164 (~kvirc@c-67-163-195-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:24:07 *** pa_5740 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 01:28:07 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:28:10 hola 01:33:22 Hey JohnTHaller 01:33:41 How goes it ChrisMorgan? 01:34:00 Fine. Just finishing off my big update of the manual now, I think. 01:34:09 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 01:34:37 Ah nice 01:35:21 I'm working on a new package for Yandex. And a couple other non-2.0 things, annoyingly. 01:44:44 *** chrisroby (~chrisroby@ool-182e648a.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #portableapps 01:55:32 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:56:29 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 01:57:47 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:58:13 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 02:12:46 *** SergentSiler is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 02:26:02 *** chrisroby has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:34:50 shanet: my point on that registry thing is that I don't understand the way it starts with HKCU\Local Settings -- that's not a valid registry path. 02:35:12 And minus the Local Settings bit, it's in the list already. 02:35:42 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 02:36:09 ChrisMorgan: Yes, I understand that. I don't know how I got it. I had a look in my registry and there was no HKCU\Local Settings. Don't know how I got it. 02:36:33 Maybe regfromapp is wacky. 02:36:47 possibly. Thats what I was using. 02:37:34 I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your help with my questions and learning how to convert applications. You have been a real help. 02:37:55 You're welcome :-) 02:38:16 And I asked a question a week or so ago about an online installer. I have figured it out (mostly) and it works like a charm. 02:38:28 I have most of it figured out. 02:39:42 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 02:40:50 JohnTHaller: How's the platform going? Have you finished it yet and are testing it? Or are you injecting the last of the code? 02:42:12 Beta 5 is coming along nicely. Dropping tomorrow with the new theming engine, portable fonts, updater and an app manager. Beta 6 will drop on the 20th with aero themes, categories and file associations. 02:42:33 o.o nice 02:43:18 awesome. Beta 6 so fast? I love you (not literally) but ur cool 02:43:34 what about the screenies with the file associations in them? 02:44:15 That's the options window. It's in there, just blank for now. It's a placeholder for translations basically :-) 02:44:41 The preview was 2.0 features, not all beta 5 features. Some beta 6. Some final. 02:44:51 mock ups? 02:45:52 sweet. It looks so awesome. I can't help but think if you were cahrging an initial fee for the right to use PA, you would be a very wealthy man. 02:45:52 No, that tab is actually there in the options window. It's just not connected to anything functional yet. Still working the bugs out. 02:46:28 I'm debating between including the category stuff in the context menus for translators. But I think some people may be annoyed that they don't work yet. 02:46:47 yeah 02:46:50 Hmm... Maybe I'll add a special translator switch in the INI that shows the non-functional features. 02:46:54 do it anyway :) 02:47:07 that's a good way, of course, it adds the complexity 02:47:33 Not really. They'll just be hidden and it'll check a single INI setting on launch to show them. It's like 3 lines of code. 02:48:04 shanet: John's had several opportunities of becoming very rich by selling out. Fortunately for us, he cares about the product more than the money :-) 02:48:26 yes. Very selfless. I envy him in this way 02:48:29 Yeah, I had one angel investor try to get me to go closed source and charge 20 or 30 bucks back 3 years gao 02:49:07 Well, not totally selfless. I think it'll still be self-suficient and support me. But I don't think profitable and open source/free/open are mutually exclusive. And I aim to prove that. 02:49:13 haha. You must get hammered with investors? 02:49:23 I get cold calls from VCs, yeah. 02:49:35 ... 02:50:27 I've always been interested in software dev. I always think piracy is a niusance, but its also a compliment in a way. 02:50:48 It means your software is so good people want to use it but cant afford it. 02:50:54 piracy is because developers have an over-inflated opionion of there software 02:51:07 I know. 02:51:24 But it tells a developer that they are doing something right. 02:51:38 yet they miss that they are doing osmething wrong 02:51:44 because people areresorting to law breaking to get their hands on your software 02:51:58 you are correct there 02:52:04 i've always been curious how many more millions more copies of office would sell itf was just 20 bucks 02:52:14 There are a lot of things wrapped up in piracy, not just price and not just developer egos. It's an odd interplay of the 'information wants to be free mindset' idealogues, the folks who like software but can't afford it, the folks who want to 'make a name' for themselves, etc. 02:52:21 but I also think there is only 1 way to stop piracy. 02:52:45 make it open source 02:52:46 Personally, I'm of the opinion of no DRM, fair pricing, and supporting your paid users well. 02:53:12 Not all software can work as open source, honestly. Eventually the business models may be found for the rest of it, though. 02:53:15 You see you had to pay for PA it would be pirated within a few hours of its upload. 02:53:54 Yes. It's just to make things open source means (usually) free. 02:54:00 True. But I'd have priced it fairly enough that most people would pay for it. 02:54:20 And then there is no point in making it free. If you want money and no piracy... 02:54:22 you get me? 02:54:41 indeed, there's more to it then just egos or price. But a driving force is linked to the price 02:54:50 I've debated doing a suggested donation when folks download. Or asking people to become supporters (and get a badge near their name on the site) 02:55:10 I ran across something called BumpTop. It has a free version with 2 features disabled. Fro 30 dollars you could get those two features. But it is worth it. 02:55:12 there are always users how will pirate software because they can or to tick other people off 02:55:36 exactly 02:55:49 I bought my most expensive software yet the other day, coincidentally. Delphi 2010. 02:56:34 Well I cant pay online - dont have paypal or anything (im 16) but I'm happy to work hard and put in my stuff\ 02:56:43 I want autocad 02:56:44 I don't think I've ever bought software, if you don't count a copy of Vista which came installed on this laptop... (and no longer is :P) 02:56:46 is it worth it? 02:56:50 $1,035 02:56:51 so bad 02:56:59 awesome 02:57:02 bah, autocad full version is like 10 times that :D 02:57:14 ChrisMorgan: Are you open source? 02:57:25 i've bought portals, that was 20 bucks well spent 02:57:26 Yeah, it's worth it. It lets the menu become fully Unicode, better PNG support, touch/gesture support, etc. 02:58:08 I came across this interesting thing the other day. Does anyone here have a nintendo wii? 02:58:13 Yup 02:58:56 Sweet. Links are allowed in the IRC? 02:59:07 afaik 02:59:19 ya 02:59:24 cool. 02:59:27 as long as it's not illegal. 02:59:28 :) 02:59:36 'ello Gizmokid2005 02:59:42 of course not 02:59:43 http://johnnylee.net/projects/wii/ 02:59:53 .title 02:59:54 OliverK: Johnny Chung Lee - Projects - Wii 02:59:55 not really 'ere OliverK, playing some MW2 with my dual monitors so I can read IRC while playing :) 03:00:01 Wii remotes use bluetooth. 03:00:37 Yeah, I've seen that. 3 WiiMotes and bluetooth support on desktop and laptop, but haven't played with it. 03:00:46 But getting back on topic... :-) 03:00:57 Anyone have any other suggestions on raising some PA.c money? 03:00:58 yeah 03:01:05 we are straying here arent we 03:01:43 I was thinking a donation button on the platform, but that's too invasiv isn't it? 03:01:48 i5t is 03:02:03 maybe you could have an about button and donate in there? 03:02:21 I'm planning a donation drive in relation to 2.0. Was gonna debut it in conjuntion with 2.0. 03:02:28 It's always a given that a donate button is usually in the about box, and people dont really mind 03:02:51 or the suite dowload button could have a donate button beside it? 03:04:08 Yeah, the About box could definitely do with a Donate button. 03:06:27 Good idea, I hadn't thought of that. 03:06:32 You can set up sourceforge with donate. 03:06:37 Or an entry... Help - Donate to PortableApps.com 03:06:40 any time john 03:07:09 Both. 03:07:17 Yeah 03:07:50 *** Jonathan___ has quit (Quit: Page closed) 03:09:37 That's probably about all for the Platform. 03:14:14 What about a suggestions thread? Maybe you could stick a thread in the forums or something and have suggestions under the about tab as well? 03:22:05 JohnTHaller: What about a suggestions thread? Maybe you could stick a thread in the forums or something and have suggestions under the about tab as well? 03:44:36 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:45:42 *** newbie|2 (~kvirc@c-67-163-195-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:45:43 *** sja5164 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:55:57 so, is the new beta dropping at midnight? ro some other time :D 04:00:27 Tomorrow when it's ready :-P 04:09:41 *Whew* 04:09:59 Finally got my big lot of work on the manual done. This bit, anyway. http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/rev/d793b1edbfd1 04:20:52 shanet: why do you go making online installers for things (instead of or as well as bundled versions) 04:20:54 ? 04:21:59 I don't really make that many online installers, just when it is easier for me to do so. 04:22:44 As far as I've seen, of your apps, almost all have been online installers, one or two with non-online installer variants available. 04:23:04 which are these? 04:23:30 * ChrisMorgan is too lazy to answer that with links :P 04:23:36 were you refering to heekscad? 04:24:09 nice on the work chris 04:24:23 shanet we try and keep apps bundled in whenever possible. we only do online installers for licensing reasons 04:24:40 Ok. 04:25:08 I did some online installers because I couldnt upload filoes to sourceforge 04:25:18 That ws until i got going with filezilla 04:25:28 (portable thx very much :P) 04:25:53 but now i do not do many with online 04:26:20 I assume you mean redistribution licensing reasons? 04:34:19 yEP 04:34:38 I was saying it due to your latest one, that you were saying that you would also provide an online installer. 04:37:34 (And once you've created a package, you should create a thread for it in Beta Testing) 04:48:14 I will. I've just noticed I forgot to edit the HTML help file o.o! However it will be done within the next hour or so 04:55:08 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 04:55:19 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 05:06:40 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 05:07:25 *** shanet is now known as shanet|busy 05:07:59 *** shanet|busy has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:12:30 alright, gnight all. early coding the in am 05:12:30 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 05:14:05 Goodnight, JohnTHaller 05:14:21 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:52:11 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 06:11:03 ChrisMorgan: Someone has requested a plugin for an application. Do you know how to do these? 06:11:50 I am trying but the installer wants appicons and all these files that I don't think should be included, because it's a plugin. 06:12:47 It also wants a start=* under control, and i cant really do that because it's just supposed to install 06:13:13 Have you set the type to plugin? 06:13:33 No... 06:13:40 is that under appinfo? 06:14:58 wait - its the special path thing, isn't it? 06:15:12 [SpecialPaths] 06:15:24 Plugins=NONE 06:15:27 ? 06:19:23 No, see section 6 06:24:03 Ah. Thanks. I did a search and missed it. 06:24:05 Sorry 06:48:53 ChrisMorgan: It is asking for a Start= control. I have made the plugininstaller.ini file and it wants the start part. Do I fill this in like normal? 06:53:12 brb 06:53:16 *** shanet has quit (Quit: Leaving) 06:57:20 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 07:03:40 i think i may have it 07:10:45 I've got it. Thanks for the directions 07:11:52 *** iHavezMyBirdo (~iHavezMyB@c-76-114-13-23.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 07:13:14 It's the 13th~ 07:13:20 My time anyway. 07:16:32 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 07:24:09 *** shanet has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:29:14 *** Drive-Dude (d5404ddc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.64.77.220) has joined #portableapps 07:30:04 Which time today will Beta 5 arrive 07:32:07 Is it not the 13th today 07:33:28 *** Drive-Dude has quit (Client Quit) 07:40:19 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 07:40:42 *** shanet has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:41:29 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 07:42:31 ChrisMorgan: I have finished the plugin. Do I declare it in the beat testing forums the same way as an application, put it in the applications thread or neither? 07:42:45 Put it in the app's thread. 07:43:09 Ok. Thanks. 07:44:23 *** MaienM has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:48:06 ChrisMorgan: If I send you the link, would you verify it's good plz? 08:05:46 *** shanet has quit (Quit: Leaving) 09:03:41 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 09:08:00 *** shanet has quit (Client Quit) 09:11:24 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 09:11:34 *** shanet has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:13:17 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 09:36:37 *** pa_1937 (5d50c1b7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.80.193.183) has joined #portableapps 09:39:39 *** pa_1937 has quit (Client Quit) 09:50:39 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 09:50:40 MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable. 09:52:06 MaienM: love the intro "MaineM is MaineM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable." lol MaineM is MaineM. 09:53:57 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.132) has joined #portableapps 09:54:01 *** Gringoloco has quit (Changing host) 09:54:01 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 10:02:29 *** shanet has quit (Quit: Leaving) 10:04:38 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 10:26:38 *** pa_1079 (5c48a8ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.72.168.238) has joined #portableapps 10:26:52 hi all 10:27:25 *** Twinkletoes (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 10:27:36 can i ask u a question regarding the directory structure of portableapps 10:27:38 ? 10:28:06 can we add additional folders in the second level ( apps,data,other ) ? 10:28:15 is this a problem ? 10:34:18 *** pa_5054 (3ce40f1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.228.15.28) has joined #portableapps 10:38:24 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 10:45:27 pa_1079: in apps or data should not be a problem, but I do not think there is a need for other, as an alternative you could put a sub directory in other\source, if really needed for the custom code 10:50:16 *** pa_5054 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 10:55:27 ChrisMorgan: Does Pal still have the problem of copying the DefaultData after FileWrite ? It seems to be ! 10:55:50 "problem". Well, the improvement hasn't been applied yet. 10:57:22 Could you tell me what segment it does copy defaultdata ? 10:57:45 Settings 10:58:02 Thanx ! saved me a lot of searching. 10:58:16 I'm going to fix that next. Just now I'm changing Other\Source\PortableApps.comLauncher*.nsh to App\AppInfo\Launcher\*.nsh 10:59:06 What would you think of putting up a topic for PAL tipical customcodes, so we all do not have to re-invent the wheel all the time. 11:00:30 The problem with that is that custom code should be rare, and either its functionality should be integrated into the launcher, or it'll be one-off. 11:00:47 Have you got any examples of where custom code is needed? 11:00:55 I'm making one for dealling with the XML settings, atm. But you'd probably wouldn't want to include to PAL due to the size of the plug-in 11:01:21 119 kb 11:02:02 No, one that big I wouldn't. Could be a compile-time thing in launcher.ini though. [Activate]:XML=true makes the plug-in be included, put in a strong note about it needing to generate the launcher again. 11:02:41 Or at the least something like "!define EnableXML" in Custom.nsh 11:02:53 Custom code is a good way to properly get it tested first, but having it available for use 11:03:36 Anyway, now I got to make a custom code to deal with the DefaultData :-( 11:05:45 Ah, PreSecondary should be the solution 11:07:05 ? 11:08:02 *** newbie|2 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 11:13:20 Ok, my mistake, it should probably be PreExecPrimary, I haven't done this for a while 11:27:15 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 11:27:17 These 2.1 release notes are becoming quite a document... :-) 11:30:03 So I can say for the Xml script :-( 11:30:32 i think you should encourage ppl to post their custom pal code to a special forum topic, so it can be reviewed easily and incorporated if necessary 11:31:16 by the way, good morning! today is releaseday! j/k 11:31:28 That's what I said, I'll put one up as soon as I'm finished with this script 11:33:41 sar3th: it's been Tuesday the 13th for over 21 and a half hours :P 11:33:43 Here 11:34:12 oh, i forgot; does that mean we are behind schedule? ;) 11:35:14 *** rmccue has quit (Quit: The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two") 11:40:20 Not at all. Sensible people when they say the such-and-suchth deliver at 11:59pm in the latest time zone possible. 11:40:54 My Dad has before stuck to a Friday the somethingth release date by releasing just before 9pm on Saturday. 11:46:20 ChrisMorgan: Any chance on getting an option to re-generate the launcher, instead of having to re-run the LauncherGenerator over and over again 11:47:26 Not really, with MUI there's only one run-on-finish (and the "readme" one which we've hijacked to "show log"). 11:48:09 It'd need to be another button or something like that on the finish page, which would mean overriding ioSpecial.ini. 11:49:45 *** shanet has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:50:03 ChrisMorgan: Would there be anything wrong with (me) runing Language segment in SegmentPre ? I dissabled Language and do a custom code. 11:50:31 What for? The DefaultData thing? 11:51:14 No no , I sorted that. SegmentInit is missing PAL:DataDir 11:51:28 variable 11:53:01 In SegmentPre I can make use of the PAL:DataDir variable 11:53:12 In the custom code? 11:53:18 Yes 11:53:59 I done ${DisableSegment} Language 11:53:59 , and copied/modified the language segment to CustomCode 11:56:01 * Gringoloco wonders, wouldn't it be better the custum code segment running on the end of each hook, instead of at the beginning of each hook. 11:56:02 Hmm... possibly what you should do instead is use Pre instead of Init 11:56:31 It's hard deciding exactly where they should go. I think that's probably why I've got so many hooks. 11:56:36 Yes, that's what I done, and it seems fine for now 11:57:03 Using ${SegmentPre} instead of ${SegmentInit} should be fine, that'll in effect be at the end of Init as it'll be the first thing done next. 11:57:22 So then do you need to replace Language or is it OK? 11:57:45 Replace language ? 11:57:53 replace the Language segment 11:58:12 ${DisableSegment} Language 12:00:00 'Fraid I don't really understand the context of it all. And I can't stick around long enough to have it explained properly, sorry. 12:00:43 Don't worry, I'm getting there anyway, probably send it these days. 12:01:29 It's doing everything ever needed with Xml files, accept for non-ansi file paths 12:03:17 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 12:04:05 ok. thanks 12:04:25 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 12:04:29 *** pa_1637 (3ce40f1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.228.15.28) has joined #portableapps 12:04:52 Wo bist das Beta 5? 12:04:57 must the executable located in AppNamePortable ? 12:05:49 pa_1079: The launcher executable AppNamePortable.exe yes. 12:05:50 can´t it be located in app subfolder or any other subfolder under app 12:06:01 pa_1079: it won't appear in the menu if it's not. 12:06:29 pa_1637: just wait. John's said it will be out today, but he hasn't said what /time/. It's still early morning (8am) for him in New York. 12:07:09 *** sja5164 (~kvirc@66-200-55-19.client.dsl.net) has joined #portableapps 12:16:46 I'm surprised that I haven't had any bug reports about PAL 2.0 so far. At this rate I won't have a 2.0.1 release and the 2.1 release notes won't have a "Bugs fixed" section at all. 12:17:44 Did you have ago on the RegDLL thing? 12:22:34 Yep, it's in the repository. 12:22:43 If you've got something to test it on, please do. 12:22:49 *** shanet has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12:23:13 Personally I had more luck with Regsvr32, see BurAwarePortable 12:24:08 I will test when I get around to it, I still wonder what would happen if the specific Dll was all ready registered 12:25:55 if we use PortableLauncher for our commercial product .... 12:26:01 what will it cost ? 12:31:15 pa_1079: you'd need to talk to John T. Haller, see http://portableapps.com/about/contact#business 12:31:18 *** Najjah (~Najjah@nat/ibm.br/x-gckilbbvgattfkuv) has joined #portableapps 12:31:26 *** Najjah has parted #portableapps (None) 12:31:34 *** shanet (~Shane@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 12:31:44 If you don't mind me asking and don't mind answering, what is the product? 12:35:31 OK, bye guys. I'm off for the night. 12:35:39 bye ChrisMorgan 12:36:00 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 12:51:43 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 13:05:28 *** pa_4695 (bd26ed47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.38.237.71) has joined #portableapps 13:05:44 How i can change the theme of Portableapps? 13:10:03 pa_4695 what version of the platform do you have? 13:17:29 Gizmokid2005: Damn. You beat me to RSSOwl. 13:17:38 *** Drive-Dude (d5404ddc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.64.77.220) has joined #portableapps 13:17:38 shanet: it can't be done 13:17:57 Hi 13:18:04 What do you mean? It cant be made portable? 13:18:08 Drive-Dude: Hey 13:18:15 no, it can't shanet 13:18:17 hello Drive-Dude 13:18:23 Drive-Dude: Can we help you? 13:18:40 *** Drive-Dude has quit (Client Quit) 13:18:43 shanet: because RSSOwl uses the IE engine for rendering feeds, it also then uses IE's TIF/Cache...which you can't clean up...that's why I dropped it. 13:18:44 Gizmokid2005: Ok. Shame. What part of it restricts it? 13:18:53 *** Drive-Dude (d5404ddc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.64.77.220) has joined #portableapps 13:18:53 Ok. 13:18:55 Thanks 13:19:01 yup 13:19:07 Will beta 5 arrive today? 13:19:09 spent a lot of time getting all the java configs and whatnot setup right 13:19:15 Drive-Dude: Yep 13:19:18 Drive-Dude: it's SUPPOSED to, but nobody but JTH really knows 13:19:19 when 13:19:21 Some time today 13:19:46 Drive-Dude: U'll have 2 wait and see 13:20:03 No one knows when. We are all as eager as you and wish we knew. 13:20:34 Alright. That is all I needed to know. Thanks 13:20:42 I've already asked him today (I'm in australia, so it was when u were going 2 bed last night obvoiusly). 13:21:12 He just said something along the lines of "It will be ready when it's ready". 13:21:31 Is that all we can do for you? 13:22:17 I can check later 13:22:25 Good Bye 13:22:30 see ya 13:22:58 peace 13:23:03 *** Drive-Dude has quit (Client Quit) 13:23:07 kk. See ya 13:32:53 *** pa_1079 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 13:36:43 *** jdamian (~jdamian@200.62.224.162) has joined #portableapps 13:46:21 *** jdamian has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 14:08:08 *** pa_4695 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 14:08:44 ALL: JTH has changed the bar up the top for all those who haven't noticed yet 14:11:10 that doesnt mean anything :/ 14:12:21 what bar at the top? 14:12:52 pa_1637: the banner on portableapps.com 14:13:21 says same thing as last couple of days 14:13:34 pa_1637: it doesn't 14:13:56 it had started with "Road to 2.0: Beta 5 arrives on Tuesday, July 13th." now it says "Road to 2.0: Beta 5 arrives LATER TODAY! (Yes, NY time)" 14:14:08 plus a new post: http://portableapps.com/node/24104#comment-153691 14:14:34 ah ok, i must still be seeing the old page 14:15:16 yeah, if you're in Firefox, CTRL+SHIFT+R will reload without cahce 14:15:20 *cache and update it for you 14:18:38 ahrg, link was wrong, it's http://portableapps.com/node/24104?page=1#comment-153691 14:21:16 cool. i see it now. thanks. 14:25:11 awesomeness :P 14:35:14 JTH has unstuck the thread to beta 4 14:35:32 and deleted it 14:36:49 sorry, not deleted, just unstuck 14:40:16 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@radio-66-51-177-246.irtc.net) has joined #portableapps 14:41:13 *** pa_1637 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14:43:51 biggrin It's coming, it's coming! I'm pretty excited 14:49:27 *** m-p{3} (~pinardm@modemcable068.125-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #portableapps 15:04:05 *** tilal (~chatzilla@host86-132-4-95.range86-132.btcentralplus.com) has joined #portableapps 15:06:10 *** tilal has quit (Client Quit) 15:19:33 *** shanet has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:01:35 *** pa_0693 (ada15c87@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.161.92.135) has joined #portableapps 16:02:39 *** pa_0693 has parted #portableapps (None) 16:17:59 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 16:18:00 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 16:18:00 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 16:23:46 *** faithmarie55 (ada15c87@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.161.92.135) has joined #portableapps 16:28:08 *** pa_6853 (8cc0321e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.192.50.30) has joined #portableapps 16:28:53 *** pa_6853 has quit (Client Quit) 16:30:50 help 16:30:50 faithmarie55: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 16:32:12 I accidentally selected Pidgin to download a pdf file instead of Sumatra and now windows automatically opens Pidgin. How do i change that? 16:36:44 right click, choose open with? 16:37:02 if open with is not there, hold ctrl+shift during your right click 16:37:03 Thanks! 16:37:09 yw 16:37:43 bye 16:38:08 *** faithmarie55 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 16:43:19 *** MaienM has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:45:02 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 16:45:02 MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable. 17:16:18 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 17:18:25 *** M4T1A5 (m4t1a5@tux.fi) has joined #portableapps 17:18:31 hi 17:20:31 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 17:27:54 *** Twinkletoes has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 17:28:11 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:29:14 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 17:31:57 *** M4T1A5 has quit (Quit: leaving) 17:44:15 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a81-84-170-85.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 17:51:31 *** Abraham (5c1e52f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.82.246) has joined #portableapps 17:52:43 Hello.. My computer hasn't got any sound devices stored on it, so i can't play music/video e.t.c . i just want to know is it possible to download sound devices for my computer? 17:57:00 Abraham: No...there's a few different things that could be a problem... 17:57:08 1) you computer could have NO PHYSICAL sound devices at alll 17:57:53 or 2) it has physical devices but there are no compatible drivers installed 17:57:57 neither of which we can help with. 17:59:04 okay.. thank you! 18:13:07 *** Abraham has quit (Quit: Page closed) 18:13:58 *** excid3|asus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:20:22 *** LinkSlayer64 (~LinkSlaye@c-71-233-56-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 18:40:33 *** pa_5740 (48a0ca06@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.160.202.6) has joined #portableapps 18:40:58 MaienM: Hello, I have a question. 18:42:11 pa_5740: what is your question? 18:42:44 MaienM: Has Chris Morgan been around? 18:42:53 .seen ChrisMorgan 18:42:53 MaienM: I last saw chrismorgan at 2010-07-13 12:38:11 UTC on #portableapps 18:43:12 he was here earlier today 18:43:24 about 5-6 hours ago 18:44:02 MaienM: I hope this isn't a bad question to ask, but he said something about mp3 decoders and I was going to ask if I could quote him. 18:44:25 MaienM: Would he be sleeping right about now? 18:44:52 I think he is, iirc he said he wa off to bed 18:45:40 Okay, could I PM you about something? 18:46:30 sure 18:57:51 *** m-p{3} has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 19:01:43 *** mtthw92 (~mtthw92@71-20-22-1.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has joined #portableapps 19:09:21 *** DGMurdockIII (~dgmurdock@c-68-58-138-39.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:09:53 do you think there will be a portable verson of instantbird any time soon 19:10:39 DGMurdockIII: I had contemplated working on it. 19:10:44 I would say it's unlikely at this point 19:10:51 as it's still VERY early in the development stages though 19:11:08 have you tryed there nightly builds 19:11:25 I did a while ago, I do keep up on their blog, so I know they've made a LOT of progress 19:34:35 I wish beta 5 would come about now.. Lol 19:35:23 we all do iHavezMyBirdo 19:39:07 :3 19:39:17 Been waiting since I heard about it. 19:39:20 Lol 19:39:46 Well if John sticks to his deadline, it's just 8-1/2 more hours!! 19:40:10 Yay~ 19:40:51 However, I wouldn't be upset if it's not on time. The more he works on it, the better it'll be :) 19:42:01 actually sja5164 he has exactly 9 hours and 20 minutes until he breaks his deadline 19:42:56 He said today, Eastern. It's currently 3:40. 19:43:03 ooh dammit 19:43:04 I know 19:43:06 I'm EDT as well 19:43:06 lol 19:43:08 *** pa_5740 has parted #portableapps (None) 19:43:09 but had a brain fart 19:43:13 it happens 19:43:16 EIGHT hours and 19 mins now. 19:43:45 I'm in the west. 19:44:11 well that just means you get it earlier 19:44:25 sja5164: LOL, only if you go by customized time :P 19:44:31 by GMT it doesn't matter 19:44:41 Pew 19:45:43 I always got mad when I was a little kid. My favorite shows were on past me "bedtime", but the kids in the west got to watch them :( 19:45:58 no, kids in central got to watch them :P 19:46:04 9EDT/8CDT 19:46:04 :P 19:46:28 haha 19:46:34 good stuff 19:46:37 Over here, old shows come on at around 3-4 in the morning :/ 19:47:24 I just download anything I watch now. Easier that way, no commercials 19:47:35 Ikr 20:03:02 *** Administrator (~Administr@71.23.141.164) has joined #portableapps 20:03:29 *** Administrator is now known as Guest15839 20:05:06 *** Guest15839 has quit (Client Quit) 20:05:12 *** bhsx (~Administr@71.23.141.164) has joined #portableapps 20:10:32 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 20:13:12 howdy John 20:13:54 hola 20:19:05