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Interesting, Monash doesn't have any such thing. Mainly just Microsoft stuff. 02:08:31 *** zachthibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 02:08:31 zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 02:08:37 *** zachthibeau is now known as ZachThibeau 02:19:01 *** StatBot (~StatBot@c-76-24-226-134.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:19:02 *** StatBot has quit (Changing host) 02:19:02 *** StatBot (~StatBot@unaffiliated/bensawsome/bots/bensbots) has joined #portableapps 02:20:43 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@c-76-24-226-134.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 02:20:44 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats 02:21:07 *** Bensawsome is now known as Guest59210 02:22:06 *** Guest59210 has quit (Changing host) 02:22:06 *** Guest59210 (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps 02:22:49 *** Guest59210 is now known as Bensawsome 02:28:34 *** ve4jhj (~ve4jhj@unaffiliated/ve4jhj) has joined #portableapps 02:28:34 ve4jhj is the developer of Scribus Portable and Armagetron Advanced Portable 02:37:31 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 02:46:43 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:48:49 *** rmccue (~rmccue@unaffiliated/rmccue) has joined #portableapps 03:16:16 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:25:21 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:26:22 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:27:20 * Alexhairyman is excited for the 2.0 release 03:35:19 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:35:38 *** pa_0667 (4ce96703@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.233.103.3) has joined #portableapps 03:35:55 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:36:18 .help 03:36:35 Hello Alexhairyman. How ca we help you? 03:36:38 *can 03:37:39 sorry meant to type "/help" as i have never used irc before 03:37:55 Welcome to IRC 03:38:05 It's fairly basic 03:38:05 No problem. What can we do for you today? 03:38:13 Just type in the text box 03:38:25 and wait for a reply, sorta like IM 03:38:32 I think I figured that out =) 03:39:01 good. If u didnt it would be worrying 03:39:15 so, what can we do for you? :) 03:39:38 If you type "/help" and go into the freenode tab it will tell you everything u can do 03:40:01 nothing really, it automatically connected when i ran pchat. 03:40:33 cool 03:40:44 just get the feel of it its really easy 03:41:15 i feel i need to say this, and i know its been aswered but why is liberkey considered the utmost evil in the world on portableapps.com? 03:41:48 *** ve4jhj has quit (Quit: BRB, have to restart the machine) 03:42:38 i don't mean any disrespect, I love portableapps.com it has several more practical applications, but liberkey has several system applications that i like to use when trying to figure out what is wrong with someone's system 03:43:47 It's not considered the /utmost/ evil - there are far worse sites. 03:44:41 I have read some of the forums and i guess it has modified several applications that licenses don't allow it 03:45:17 atleast there are no crack/warez 03:45:30 The main thing with them is not taking enough care of the GPL and copyright 03:46:05 And trademark violation too 03:46:55 Thanks for the info 03:49:06 what about 03:49:23 *** pa_0667 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 03:53:41 liberkey, i don't know much about copyrights and stuff, anything I code is usually done in free time and never leaves my laptop 03:58:34 *** rmccue has parted #portableapps ("The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two"") 04:07:56 *** mtthw92 has quit (Quit: Bye) 04:10:47 *** AppGuy has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:14:13 *** newbie|2 (~kvirc@c-67-163-195-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:14:13 *** sja5164 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:15:55 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:16:28 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:17:17 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Client Quit) 04:19:04 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:21:47 can anyone help with pchat? i think i hit a button and now my toolbar is gone? 04:24:35 *** Alexhairyman has quit (Quit: Leaving) 04:27:56 *** Alexhairyman (~Alex@c-67-171-116-80.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:39:59 *** iHavezMyBirdo (~iHavezMyB@c-76-114-13-23.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 04:40:08 Has beta5 been delayed again? 04:40:52 At this point, I would think it's safe to assume so 04:41:07 Eh. Alrighty. 04:41:10 *** newbie|2 is now known as sja5164 04:53:17 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 05:33:45 *** iHavezMyBirdo has parted #portableapps (None) 05:41:27 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Cheez Itz!) 05:45:42 *** mtthw92 (~mtthw92@71-20-22-1.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has joined #portableapps 06:18:27 hhhah 06:18:58 ? 06:19:15 i'm sad, you know why ;) 06:19:28 your 40 and single? 06:19:48 wrong 06:20:23 that seems like a pretty big prob in your life =D 06:22:08 we have absolutely no idea. could it be that your dog got hit by a stationary car? 06:22:31 your penis head was cut off? 06:22:37 tell us GD 06:29:11 *** skeith (b6011001@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.1.16.1) has joined #portableapps 06:29:57 is there any spesific channel for toucan portable support? 06:30:39 skeith: this is the one 06:31:03 well, that's good 06:31:10 I was wondering 06:31:34 why toucan could not run on my Windows Server 2003 R2 06:32:09 is it platform limited? 06:32:13 skeith: various apps don't run on Server 2003 R2, I've found. 06:32:38 ah, I see, 06:33:09 then, I should post it to the forum to address this issue 06:33:13 am i right? 06:34:14 Feel free to. Steve may or may not try to get it working. 06:34:45 uhm, I hope it will support windows server 06:35:06 I tired copying manually, and did not want to install anything to the registry 06:35:34 you know, i'm still green on this database admin job 06:39:52 *** skeith has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07:11:33 *** pa_9236 (7cb848b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.184.72.181) has joined #portableapps 07:13:37 hi, where can i find the source code for the platform 1.6.1 and Beta 4? 07:17:51 ah found beta 5 source, so no worries. 07:21:27 you found WHAT? 07:22:50 you are right, it's there! 07:24:14 yeah, it's up. 07:24:40 having issues with the themes though. maybe i need to delete my old installation. 07:28:47 also the updater keeps telling me to update WinMD5sum even though it's at same version 07:29:21 nice theme colours 07:30:40 dang, i lack the default theme 07:32:10 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 07:32:15 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 07:32:24 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 07:32:24 hi JohnTHaller1 07:32:28 hola 07:32:36 busy day i see :) 07:32:46 JohnTHaller: what are you doing up now? 07:32:54 You should have been asleep for hours. 07:33:05 Finishing Beta 5, actually 07:33:05 Hey john 07:33:14 You shouldn't be! :-) 07:33:16 It's propogating now 07:33:18 Hello there 07:33:31 Cool. It has been a long run! 07:33:44 I just finished updating the updater.ini on the server for all current releases. I'm posting the page in the forums now and then the frontpage announcement. 07:33:51 propogating? whats that? 07:34:00 Copying to download mirrors all over the world 07:34:01 i like it. thanks for the new version. 07:34:38 awesome! 07:35:22 so you got rid of the bugs then? 07:35:48 what I could for now. It's a beta, so a few will be in there. and it's not close to final feature-wise of course. 07:36:28 Thats fine. You have worked hard, and done your best, I'm sure. That's all we can ask of you. 07:36:30 how do i get the new options window as per the screenshots? 07:36:57 you don't. It's not in beta 5 07:37:03 any1 got it yet? 07:37:15 That's a 2.0 preview. As in final. 07:37:17 ah ok, no worries. 07:38:26 JohnTHaller: To update, it is like all other apps? 07:38:39 shanet: yes: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/ 07:38:46 can't chat atm. updating screenshots 07:38:55 Thanks 07:38:58 kk 07:39:01 its going now 07:39:12 gotta run. thanks all. 07:40:04 Done 07:40:23 like it? 07:40:58 It's already awesome and i havent had much time 2 check it out! 07:41:20 Try out some themes. There are 32 of them. Mostly color variants. And a couple of bg image examples. 07:41:33 already seen that i was blown away 07:41:46 i've been working on a window 7 theme all day. 07:42:24 Known bug: The theme list won't properly update with what you have selected, btw 07:42:43 Thats k 07:42:50 updating apps... 07:43:04 I noticed you added the Donate to PA in the about box 07:43:40 *** pa_9236 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07:43:59 apparently beta 5 has been downloaded 0 times, but I just did! 07:44:15 JohnTHaller: It's about 3 in the morning over there, isn't it? 07:45:10 no quarter 2 4? 07:45:11 shanet: not sure where exactly you are but here in Melbourne with AEST it's "subtract two and flip the am/pm". Which makes it 3:45. Which means John should have been asleep by now. 07:45:26 I'm in Perth :P 07:45:41 Eek! Almost as bad as America ;-) 07:45:54 what are u talking bout? 07:46:03 at least we have good drivers :P 07:46:16 from here NY is 12 hours behind 07:46:48 BTW - Anyone who already downloaded 2b5 has the wrong version :-( 07:47:36 wat? 07:47:45 There's a bug in it. A new one is uploading now. 07:47:58 in the sourcecode as well? 07:48:03 ok. 07:48:04 In both, yes. 07:48:10 That's why I haven't announced them yet 07:48:24 k 07:48:32 kk 07:48:43 just a question, 07:49:11 u no how u had the theme manager image? is that still in, or did u have 2 fish that out with the bug? 07:49:29 As stated, the options window comes later 07:49:51 Ok. thx 07:50:08 looks interesting 08:02:01 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 08:24:04 *** shanet has quit (Quit: Leaving) 08:37:46 *** shanet (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 08:41:55 Whoah 08:42:26 Woah? 08:42:49 Thanx JohnTHaller, just downloading 08:44:54 You're welcome 08:46:02 JohnTHaller: If you want to have a look at the RealProgress plug-in, I need the initial script to see what was wrong 08:46:18 Oh, I forgot the source link... Hang on... 08:47:20 ...If you want ME to have a look... 08:47:45 They're on SF, lemme dig up the link for you. 08:48:25 it looks very nice 08:49:20 but how to start the updater, manually ? 08:49:27 is there a seperate forum topic for the updater? 08:49:30 Manage Apps - Check For Updates 08:49:44 :P 08:49:44 No the updater is part of the platform. 08:49:49 I'm posting known issues now 08:50:15 Gringoloco: The source links are fixed in the forum topic 08:50:52 JohnTHaller: Can I find the script there with the problem of RealProgress? 08:51:04 The updater script 08:52:04 JohnTHaller: When I bring up the menu, the taskbar icon appears, when I minimize it to the tray it dissapears. I am in windows 7 and have it Windows7taskbarIcon=false 08:52:22 That is currently unavoidable 08:52:42 It's due to a Delphi 2010 change in form handling. We'll need to code around it later 08:53:04 Ok. Just making sure you knew :) 08:53:14 But everything else seems fine so far... 08:53:45 I knoew about it before, but I honestly forgot. Just added it to known issues., 08:54:53 Thats fine. Will it be fixed in the next beta or final??? 08:55:13 Dunno. At the moment, I don't know how to fix it. 08:55:33 ha yeah. But uve done a great job 08:55:48 Aren't u tired? U should get some sleep! 08:56:02 It's 5am. I'm exhausted 08:56:06 .t 08:56:06 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:58:50 MESZ 08:56:17 i've been awake the whole night, waiting for it ^^ 08:57:14 I'll just drop that by the forum. Get some sleep, John. You need and deserve it. There are a million and one people out there who are thankful for what you have done. But you need rest. 09:00:55 shanet - no need, it's already listed under known issues. so you can ditch that part of your comment 09:01:35 OK. I shall do that. Just go and get some well deserved sleep. 09:01:35 JohnTHaller: should I comment SetProgress, when I anable/uncomment GradualProgress ? In the updater source 09:01:49 enable 09:01:54 Just uncomment gradual. I use both set and gradual 09:01:57 Or try to 09:03:00 I'll let you know about my findings asap 09:04:46 JohnTHaller: All previous themes should work the same??? 09:05:04 Technically, they are no longer supported. The layout has changed. 09:05:18 They may mostly work though 09:24:03 *** cienislaw (4e087bbf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.8.123.191) has joined #portableapps 09:29:27 *** MaienM|Sleep is now known as MaienM 09:31:33 *** Twinkletoes (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 09:32:48 *** Usbtastic (~Usbtastic@CPE-124-184-72-181.lns13.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps 09:34:21 Hi, thanks for the updated platform beta. 09:34:23 *** pa_1484 (84b9f07b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.132.185.240.123) has joined #portableapps 09:34:48 hi... where do i find the link to download the latest beta, please? 09:35:16 http://portableapps.com/node/24258 09:35:43 just down the page is the download link 09:36:01 Thanks!! 09:36:08 no worries 09:36:51 Where is best for me to list some of my observations\bugs etc i've found in the Beta 5? Should i mention them here? 09:37:16 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 09:39:29 on that page in the forum 09:40:26 ok thanks 09:40:37 *** abc11111175 (3a1bde32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.27.222.50) has joined #portableapps 09:40:57 any gay here.? 09:41:16 *** abc11111175 has quit (Client Quit) 09:41:40 why Windows7TaskbarIcon=true for example isnt added to ini by default? 09:43:20 It's assumed. It'll appear in Advanced options later on. 09:44:23 for now it will be better to add it to ini to let ppl know what to turn off it they dont want taskbar icon 09:44:35 took me a while to google it 09:45:05 and it was a issue which kept me with 1.5 till today 09:48:42 *** pa_1484 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 09:50:15 the same should be with all options which are assumed - its nice that devs know, but will be nice to know by user what is assumed 09:52:26 is the Windows 7 theme preview from Beta 4 fully compatable with Beta 5? 09:54:03 Try it and see, 09:56:17 JohnTHaller: You have really changed the theming alot! 09:57:11 i'm having problems with the theme (i left a comment on the page). is there way to 'reset' the theme via ini file? 09:57:14 We reworked it to make it easier to see your info, have a bit better layout and easier for folks to make simple themes. They can just use an image (see Rainbow and Textured) or a color (everything else) or a full BG image like before 09:57:22 Which theme/ 09:57:36 Again, old themes aren't really supported anymore. The menu layout changed, so they won't look rigyht 09:58:11 all of them. when i select a new theme (from the built in list) the old one stays checked. 09:58:15 If you close the menu and edit your PortableAppsPlatform.ini file in PA\PA.c\Data you can remove the current;y set theme 09:58:25 cool. thanks. 09:58:42 what is checked 10:02:27 where is PortableAppsPlatform.ini? 10:03:13 X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data 10:03:43 i seem to be missing that file 10:03:53 JohnTHaller: Are there any tutorials up on theming under the new platform by any chance yet? 10:04:04 No 10:04:07 Usbtastic: Have you run the platform??? 10:04:12 Theming is not done. So releasing themes is a bad idea 10:04:17 JohnTHaller: Ok. Thanks 10:04:17 It's PortableAppsMenu.ini 10:04:23 Thats ok 10:06:41 JohnTHaller: when selecting Textured theme, how do i un-select it? 10:06:54 You don't Unseleect. You select a different one. 10:07:02 You HAVE to have a theme selected 10:07:38 Are you getting multiple themes with checkboxes? 10:08:14 If so, redownload because you got the early copy that was bugged. 10:08:34 ah ok. that'll probably be it. 10:08:48 CLear your browser's cache first 10:08:56 okey dokes 10:10:02 *** cienislaw has quit (Quit: Page closed) 10:12:05 Alright... must sleep for at least a few hours since it's 6am. Gnight all. 10:12:43 i did have the earlier build, signed 1 at 4:59pm. good night 10:14:54 yep, the version signed at 6:02pm fixed my themes. 10:15:07 cool 10:15:17 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 10:19:52 *** mtthw92 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:46:21 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 10:56:04 *** |shanet| (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 11:03:25 *** m-p{3} (~pinardm@modemcable068.125-20-96.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #portableapps 11:19:13 *** sja5164 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 11:20:14 *** |shanet| has quit (Quit: Leaving) 11:20:36 How is the new platform working for everyone? 11:23:38 *** iHavezMyBirdo (~iHavezMyB@c-76-114-13-23.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 11:28:10 *** iHavezMyBirdo has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 11:42:16 shanet: ok, just waiting for Beta 6 now :) 11:42:28 nice themes 11:42:36 Can't wait :P 11:43:05 i'd like to remove the menu placeholder from the taskbar in XP 11:43:06 Shame. I was making an awesome windows 7 theme. I'm about 98% through just now, and... 11:43:26 What u mean? 11:44:11 the Platform\Menu now appears on the windows XP taskbar where Beta 4 didnt (only in the system tray) 11:44:26 i wonder if there is an ini option for it... 11:44:29 Same in windows 7. 11:44:56 However with Beta 4 you inout a few chars into a file and it overwrit that 11:45:42 Windows7TaskbarIcon=false 11:45:54 yep 11:46:06 did u have the same prob in XP? 11:46:23 only in Beta 5 11:46:48 Beta 4 with XP never showed on taskbar 11:47:04 i dont think.... 11:47:05 OK. 11:47:58 I dont use XP anymore 11:50:14 i only use it on my netbook cos win 7 was a bit slow on it and some drivers didnt work too well. 11:51:21 My sister is a complete money spender. 11:51:30 She has no idea bout computer 11:51:39 *computers 11:52:06 So she went out and just bought the most crappy netbook 11:52:18 and blames the distributor for it. 11:54:32 dinner time. see u l8r 11:54:37 *** shanet has quit (Quit: Leaving) 12:05:19 *** sja5164 (~kvirc@66-200-55-19.client.dsl.net) has joined #portableapps 12:10:03 *** sja5164 has quit (Client Quit) 12:11:40 *** sja5164 (~kvirc@66-200-55-19.client.dsl.net) has joined #portableapps 12:27:08 Usbtastic: that's a known problem with beta 5, it is due changes in delphi, JTH plans to work around it later 12:27:34 ok cool. thanks. 12:42:55 *** pa_1346 (6165321f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.101.50.31) has joined #portableapps 12:44:40 *** pa_1346 has quit (Client Quit) 13:07:10 *** shanet (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 13:09:33 *** |shanet| (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 13:09:59 *** |shanet| has quit (Client Quit) 13:10:31 *** |shanet| (~Shanet@218-215-220-131.people.net.au) has joined #portableapps 13:11:38 *** shanet has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:11:48 *** |shanet| is now known as shanet 13:15:48 *** Vodak (~Vodak@cpe-71-74-228-179.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 13:15:52 *** Vodak has parted #portableapps (None) 13:22:00 *** rouilj1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:34:52 *** Usbtastic has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 13:38:31 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 13:45:41 *** excid3|asus (~Chris_Oli@134.193.239.47) has joined #portableapps 13:50:16 *** excid3|asus has quit (Client Quit) 14:14:18 *** pa_2171 (b6ef8f8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.239.143.143) has joined #portableapps 14:14:39 *** pa_2171 has quit (Client Quit) 14:48:43 *** zachthibeau (~zachthibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 14:48:43 zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 14:49:09 *** zachthibeau is now known as ZachThibeau 14:52:36 I'm not sure what everyone's problem is with the Win7 taskbar 14:52:44 it works fine for me...hidden when it's minimized... 14:57:29 Gizmokid2005: but when its not minimized... 14:57:50 it should be there shanet...really, if it's not minimized, it's an active window 14:58:18 but shouldn't we have options? 14:59:09 Yeah...which it is...just not working correctly like John said and MaienM as well. I wasn't sure exactly the "problem" everyone was having. I'd assume that to be normal behavior for any application with an active app window. 14:59:33 you should be able to just select it on the taskbar instead of always having to minimize windows or alt+tab 14:59:36 but options are good :) 15:11:41 *** Reactor5 (~Reactor5@user.jbu.edu) has joined #portableapps 15:11:47 *** Reactor5 has parted #portableapps (None) 15:14:00 cya 15:14:06 *** shanet has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 15:22:12 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 15:22:42 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 15:27:25 *** m-p{3} has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 15:34:05 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:34:06 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 15:37:15 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a81-84-170-85.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 15:52:23 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 15:54:48 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 15:54:48 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 16:06:50 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 16:07:13 hell JohnTHaller 16:07:18 hell indeed 16:07:25 *hello 16:07:26 :D 16:08:16 4 hrs sleep.... ugh 16:08:23 oh 16:08:24 I hear ya, trust me, I hear ya 16:08:30 yeah not fun 16:08:45 heh, only got 1h today >_< 16:09:39 just don't stay awake for 4 days in a row... trust me, not fun, I did once and was pretty tired enough that I started to see things :S 16:10:31 anyways back to PChat bug fixing 16:33:08 *** JacobTwitch (4c6b77b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.107.119.182) has joined #portableapps 16:34:19 *** JacobTwitch has quit (Client Quit) 16:36:13 *** pa_6062 (4c6b77b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.107.119.182) has joined #portableapps 16:36:25 Hello 16:37:50 I can't load portable apps anymore, everytime i load portable apps it just reloads constantly and i get 20 or 30 copies of my shortcuts for my applications. can you please help me? 16:38:46 help 16:38:46 pa_6062: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums 16:39:19 what version of the menu pa_6062? 16:39:49 let me check, i installed it in about feburary 16:40:26 on the setup wizard i saved it says 1.6 16:40:40 when did the problem start pa_6062 16:41:30 just about 10 minutes ago, and did it both times i tried to restart it. the second time it wouldn't stop reloading so i had to go to the windows task manager and kill the process 16:42:14 weird... 16:42:18 have you tried restarting. 16:42:34 no, but i just started my computer 16:43:08 oh ok, i just tried to start it up again and it loaded properly 16:43:12 weird 16:44:16 do you think i should try the new verison of portable apps soon? 16:45:03 You can, or you can not. It's up to you really. The new beta has some new features. 16:45:18 ok 16:45:44 well thanks for your help 16:46:04 you're welcome pa_6062 16:47:12 *** pa_6062 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 16:53:13 *** Twinkletoes has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 17:36:38 *** rouilj has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:37:48 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 17:44:42 pa_6062's issue is most likely drive corruption, btw. issues in the file allocation table causing directories to show up multiple times. 17:54:17 I'd have expected /nothing/ to show up, not duplicates, but good to keep in mind 17:55:24 when the directory tables get corrupted, sometimes a file can show up a dozen times when Windows tries to read/recover from it. It's really rare... I think I've seen it once in about 10 years. 17:55:33 *** mtthw92 (~mtthw92@71-20-22-1.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has joined #portableapps 17:57:51 *** mtthw92 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 18:03:06 I've never seen it...anytime I see corruption like that windows just barfs over it...go figure 18:03:41 Well, DamnVid should be up soon, after I hear from the dev...next in line are TightVNC finished and then InstantBird possibly 18:13:06 Nice :) 18:13:15 so long as you don't mind seeing them ;) 18:14:55 You try the updater? 18:15:07 I did 18:15:12 and apparently had a lot of outdated apps as well :) 18:15:16 Heh 18:15:18 Thoughts? 18:15:25 it's simple, and I like it. 18:15:54 Cool. Yeah, it's designed to be super-easy and as efficient as possible. I still have to update all the old apps installers for outdated ones so they'll work with it properly. 18:15:57 from what I remember, had just enough info to tell me what I wanted to know 18:16:31 the only thing that would be neat, and I'm pretty sure it might not even be possible, is if in a tooltip or summary you can tell what version it is currently and when it was installed 18:16:45 that's just neat information, and definitely not something I'd be sad that's not there 18:16:56 *** pa_0412 (7c527c1d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.82.124.29) has joined #portableapps 18:17:06 *** pa_0412 has quit (Client Quit) 18:19:27 I'm going to add an advanced option to have "Current Version" be a column for people who want it. As a general rule, it's just noise, since it doesn't really matter what version you have installed, just that there's a new one. 18:19:59 I added in the ability to update the test apps like Chrome Dev and Firefox Beta as well, for fun. 18:22:47 Sounds good to me :) 18:36:45 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 18:38:01 JohnTHaller: Is your RealProgress bug the one that makes the progress bar going up and down, when installing/downloading apps? 18:39:02 GradualProgress goes past where it is supposed to when called. And then SetProgress doesn't set to the proper location afterwards. 18:39:53 So it's going forwards and then backwards? 18:40:07 All sorts of oddness. 18:40:43 Cause that's what happens on my site with Ansi or Unicode NSIS. All equal 18:41:14 When you set gradual from X to Y does it go past Y? 18:42:05 Haven't tried that yet, all I done, for now, is to see the difference with ansi or unicode compiling 18:43:26 It may be broken in ANSI, too. I've never used GradualProgress except on its own from 0 to 90. 18:44:03 I will have a go on setting gradual from X to Y, to see what happens! Anymore info I should know? 18:45:12 I think I left it in the updater code, just uncomment it to check it out. 18:45:33 You can manually edit a couple of app's AppInfo.ini files and set the PackageVersion lower to force a re-update for testing the updater. 18:46:07 That's all I did, I was just wondering if my findings where the bug you where talking about 18:46:53 Yes, you did leave the code in! 18:46:58 cool 18:47:25 btw - your updater window will be standard nsis size not supersized like mine. I'm using updated UI files for compilation in NSIS itself 18:47:52 I'll play with it these days, inventually I could report it to the Nsis forum 18:48:18 Yes, I realized the smaller window. (So it wasn't me :-) ) 18:48:45 Where did you get the updated UI files ? 18:49:33 I hacked em with reshacker. 18:49:59 Maybe I should use them in my testing, could be part of the bug 18:50:16 doubtful. it just widens the actual EXE's form. 18:50:40 Ok, if your that sure about it, it's up to you 18:51:08 I'll package em for ya anyway 18:51:21 cool 18:51:37 just to be sure 18:51:44 PMed 18:52:16 Thanxs 18:53:24 Are you aware that some apps do not install silently in PAU? 18:53:54 See Known issues 18:55:12 sorry, didn't get around to that 19:00:37 and FileZilla Portable isn't updated (and possibily others) 19:03:33 How so? 19:04:15 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 19:04:39 not sure I got 3.3.2.1 and new version is 3.3.3, same for Nsis Portable 19:06:49 sorry NsisP could be my mistake, as I'm missing the appinfo. (I just gethered a lot of old versions I had scathered around) 19:07:07 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 19:09:47 brb 19:15:26 Anyone with thoughts on this? http://portableapps.com/node/24265 19:16:11 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 19:16:12 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 19:16:12 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 20:17:12 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:21:16 hi gluxon 20:21:28 Hi Gringoloco :) 20:24:39 brb 20:24:42 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 20:29:22 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler 20:33:18 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 20:33:18 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 21:01:16 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 21:03:17 *** sja5164 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 21:04:02 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:11:52 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:12:55 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 21:21:20 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:41:07 *** BjornH has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:45:04 *** pa_1962 (4e8d66bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.141.102.191) has joined #portableapps 21:45:25 *** pa_1962 has quit (Client Quit) 21:56:53 *** Pyromaniac (a8aefddd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.168.174.253.221) has joined #portableapps 21:57:18 hey JohnTHaller , do you have a minute 21:57:37 sup 21:58:52 JohnTHaller: I read a little while ago how you said something about an app being able to be released with the second flood 21:59:05 the dev of Don't Panic! was all on board 21:59:22 perhaps you could squeeze it in the back of the flood 22:00:17 All I need to do is edit Readme.txt and Help.html and compile with the new splash and its good to go... 22:01:22 is that a possibility, or am I way over my head, JohnTHaller ? 22:01:46 I have a hugely full plate atm, so I can't even think about what's coming when app-wise yet. Sorry, 4hrs sleep and all 22:02:06 ah, I know how that feels :P 22:04:20 *** sja5164 (~kvirc@c-67-163-195-41.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:21:13 *** sja5164 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 22:21:23 Anybody else around? 22:22:10 yes JohnTHaller 22:22:36 * gluxon is 22:30:02 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 22:48:22 later all. may peak back in later 22:48:25 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 22:55:35 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 23:11:00 *** Pyromaniac has quit (Quit: Page closed) 23:32:41 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:34:59 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@69.182.79.237) has joined #portableapps 23:35:14 *** srgsiler has quit (Changing host) 23:35:14 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 23:49:15 *** srgsiler has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:49:26 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@69.182.79.237) has joined #portableapps 23:49:41 *** srgsiler has quit (Changing host) 23:49:41 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 23:55:19 *** srgsiler has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:55:34 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@69.182.79.237) has joined #portableapps 23:55:45 *** srgsiler has quit (Changing host) 23:55:45 *** srgsiler (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 23:55:55 *** rouilj has quit (*.net *.split) 23:55:55 *** gluxon has quit (*.net *.split) 23:55:56 *** rouilj1 has quit (*.net *.split) 23:59:47 *** rouilj (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 23:59:48 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 23:59:48 *** rouilj1 (~rouilj@pool-74-104-157-242.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps