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04:59:34 <CB_TM> 0.0
04:59:41 <CB_TM> <. < Hello?
05:00:25 <CB_TM> help!
05:00:25 <GizmoBot> CB_TM: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
05:02:44 <CB_TM> hm, okay...I downloaded OpenOfficePortable and after deleting it and placing it straight in my USB instead of a sub-folder.... I managed to get it to open and ask me to register etc. but now I try to run it and it doesn't work :/ It gives the the "I'm opening!" splash but then that disappears and nothing else happens....
05:04:02 <CB_TM> <. < The FAQ on it only had two questions and neither helped...I had a brief look over the support forum for it and nothing seemed to answer it either :/
05:05:01 <CB_TM> Oh! The main one opens, where you select which document type you want to start/load, it's just the actual apps for the docs that doesn't open 'x3
05:05:11 <CB_TM> *don't
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05:05:58 <CB_TM> ... Hi Chris
05:06:05 <CB_TM> Can you help me?
05:09:44 <CB_TM> ChrisMorgan: I downloaded OpenOfficePortable and dumped it straight into my USB (in 'OpenOfficePortable' subfolder) and it opens the app-selector and asked for my name and everything, but when I select what doc type I want to start it just sits there and does nothing. And if I try and start it directly it just gives me the "I'm opening!" splash and then that disappears and nothing else happens :/
05:10:30 <ChrisMorgan> What is the directory path you have installed it to?
05:10:47 <CB_TM> "F:\OpenOfficePortable"
05:10:47 <ChrisMorgan> X:\OpenOfficePortable?
05:10:51 <CB_TM> yeah
05:11:02 <ChrisMorgan> And you say you "dumped it" - installed, I presume?
05:11:22 <CB_TM> yeah, ran the program "Where do you want it? --> F:\OpenOfficePortable? Okay!"
05:11:44 <ChrisMorgan> How long have you tried waiting for, and have you checked in Task Manager or similar to see if OpenOfficePortable.exe or soffice.exe are still running?
05:12:28 <CB_TM> I've waited maybe....5-10 minutes. :/ I don't have admin here so I can't check Task Manager -.-'
05:12:45 <ChrisMorgan> Try Ctrl+Shift+Escape
05:13:06 <CB_TM> Just on it's own or after opening the main program?
05:13:22 <ChrisMorgan> On its own, that runs Task Manager
05:13:46 <ChrisMorgan> It's quite a while since I've used such a restricted computer and I can't remember whether it's just the item or the actual program which is blocked...
05:14:08 <CB_TM> ... it says "Task Manager has been disabled by your Administrator"
05:14:16 <ChrisMorgan> OK.
05:14:25 <ChrisMorgan> I'm not sure what the issue could be.
05:14:56 <CB_TM> >.< Yeah, usually I'm on my own comp but I got this because these comps suck :/ meh, thanks for trying! :3
05:15:23 <ChrisMorgan> So... how far does it get?
05:15:38 <ChrisMorgan> It does the registration wizard, then it gets the the panel with the buttons for each document type?
05:15:44 <CB_TM> Yeah
05:16:03 <ChrisMorgan> Then what happens when you click on one - is OO.o terminating or does it just do nothing?
05:16:11 <CB_TM> It does nothing
05:16:36 <ChrisMorgan> Have you tried using the File menu?
05:16:52 <CB_TM> .... >///< err... hang on, I'll try now
05:19:02 <CB_TM> "Due to an unexpected error, OpenOffice.org crashed. All the files you were working on will now be saved. The next time OpenOffice.org is launched, your files will be recovered automatically."
05:19:41 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm.
05:19:53 <ChrisMorgan> Could be something in the restrictions on the local machine is causing it to break.
05:20:16 <ChrisMorgan> I think #openoffice.org would be the best place to ask; they might have some notion of what's happening.
05:20:49 <CB_TM> Yeah, probably >___<*  :/ It's annoying because these comps use Vista but I'm on XP so you always have to save you stuff twice here so you can use it at home :/  :3 Thanks for the advice, I'll check it out.
05:21:18 <CB_TM> I didn't realise there was a channel for the app
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08:36:58 <pa_8243> Hello! I got a short question. Is ist possible to safe my PortableApps-Stick with a Password? That I have to log in to use PA?
08:41:21 <pa_8243> Nobody out there?
08:46:24 <pa_8243> Is ist possible to safe my PortableApps-Stick with a Password that shows up at the start?
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09:04:05 <GizmoBot> chazz is the guy who failed at developing stuff. :D
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10:12:08 <lizenz> hello
10:14:43 <lizenz> When using portable Apps - is the Lizenz of the original software untouched?
10:31:44 <chazz> lizenz: "lizenz"?
10:32:20 <chazz> oh, sorry, yes. the license of the original software is unmodified
10:35:38 <chazz> (Ja. die Lizenz der Original-Software ist unverändert)
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12:18:58 <M4T1A5> what's with the german?
12:19:01 <M4T1A5> ny
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13:11:45 <pa_6742> Spam - http://portableapps.com/node/10965#comment-156137
13:12:40 <pa_6742> ciao
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13:32:26 <pa_4873> Spam - http://portableapps.com/node/19377#comment-156138
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14:15:14 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: Pidgin portable is taking forever to install again...anything I can look into as to why?
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14:45:47 <M4T1A5> your computer?
14:50:28 <Gizmokid2005> M4T1A5: nope...Pidgin installs quick and fine when I don't use the updater
14:50:34 <Gizmokid2005> and it takes pidgin 5x as long to install as FF
14:50:48 <M4T1A5> well idk
14:51:05 <M4T1A5> and i don't really care i just leave it to update to the background
14:51:24 <Gizmokid2005> doesn't help me, nor a "normal" user who would be waiting for it
14:51:37 <M4T1A5> maybe not
14:51:50 <M4T1A5> but it's not going to be more than 5min
14:51:52 <M4T1A5> or is it?
14:51:53 <Gizmokid2005> the only Idea I got from him last time I had the issue was that it was installing multilingual when I only install English normally
14:52:02 <Gizmokid2005> but nothing points to a multi install
14:52:04 <Gizmokid2005> it does actually
14:52:12 <Gizmokid2005> and it shouldn't, being that I'm using an external hard drive and USB2
14:52:34 <M4T1A5> k
14:53:21 <M4T1A5> i think most "normal" usets also leave it to the background
14:53:54 <M4T1A5> also are you sure the problem is not specific to you?
14:54:26 <Gizmokid2005> not sure why it would be.
14:54:45 <M4T1A5> well you can never know
14:55:03 <Gizmokid2005> I'll just DL the installer and reinstall it now and see if it takes that long
14:55:08 <M4T1A5> ok
14:55:38 <M4T1A5> maybe the installer was bugged and it has been updated now
14:55:53 <Gizmokid2005> no, I installed not even an hour ago
14:56:15 <Gizmokid2005> but I'll do a double test
14:56:19 <Gizmokid2005> I'll install manually now
14:56:24 <Gizmokid2005> and time it...the install via the updater
14:57:03 <Gizmokid2005> 6 seconds to install manually
14:57:20 <M4T1A5> lol 6seconds
14:57:23 <M4T1A5> is not so bad
14:57:55 <Gizmokid2005> trying the updater now (and keep in mind I'm only counting install time, not download time
14:58:17 <M4T1A5> okay
14:58:31 <Gizmokid2005> and so it begins
14:58:38 <M4T1A5> you do know it's a beta quality product
14:58:49 <M4T1A5> right?
14:59:59 <Gizmokid2005> the updater just downloads and runs the installer.
15:00:01 <Gizmokid2005> beta or not
15:00:15 <Gizmokid2005> it shouldn't take over 20x as long to install the same product
15:00:20 <Gizmokid2005> becuase it's using the SAME installer
15:00:27 <Gizmokid2005> there's no interruptions from the Updater
15:01:46 <Gizmokid2005> 192 seconds to install via the updater
15:01:53 <M4T1A5> of course it shouldn't
15:01:57 <M4T1A5> but it CAN
15:02:00 <Gizmokid2005> there's no reason it should be 32x slower
15:02:17 <M4T1A5> not any obvious reason
15:03:09 <Gizmokid2005> I have no clue why it would take that much longer...per the appinfo.ini it's the same type of install, English, and it's installing the same thing...to the same location...with the same installer
15:03:49 <Gizmokid2005> that's why I asked JohnTHaller about it. SOmething seems to be wrong
15:03:53 <M4T1A5> did you run the installer FROM the usb drive?
15:03:56 <M4T1A5> the manual one
15:03:58 <Gizmokid2005> ....
15:03:59 <Gizmokid2005> no
15:04:07 <Gizmokid2005> and the updater doesn't either
15:04:11 <M4T1A5> i know
15:04:14 <Gizmokid2005> that is run from %TEMP%
15:04:18 <M4T1A5> i know
15:04:25 <M4T1A5> that is why i asked
15:04:38 <Gizmokid2005> i would even be Ok with a 30s install time...that's still reasonable...but not ovr 3 minutes
15:04:55 <M4T1A5> :D
15:05:07 <M4T1A5> well im sure jonh has some great answer to that
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16:32:23 <modwiz> how do you convert a single file desktop exe to a portable apps exe file?
16:33:38 <Gizmokid2005> there is no conversion modwiz
16:33:48 <Gizmokid2005> you should read up on the development page on PortableApps.com
16:33:50 <Gizmokid2005> and also read this
16:33:54 <Gizmokid2005> .def field_guide
16:33:54 <GizmoBot> field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
16:34:11 <modwiz> i did not make it
16:34:46 <modwiz> it is just a desktop app i want to add to my drive as a portable app
16:34:55 <Gizmokid2005> I just told you what to do modwiz
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16:35:09 <modwiz> okay thank you
16:35:19 <Gizmokid2005> rainroom69: please fix your connection or part this room until it is fixed
16:35:25 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome modwiz
16:35:33 <modwiz> goodbye
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17:10:38 <pa_5959> hello
17:11:17 <pa_5959> can anybody help me? i just want to know how to unistall PortableApps.com Suite
17:11:47 <pa_5959> can't see it in vista control panel program list
17:13:30 <pa_5959> I mean, instead of installing in a pen drive, i installed in my hard drive...
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17:14:56 <marlop> pa_5959, just delete the folders created by the installer
17:15:11 <pa_5959> ok
17:15:12 <marlop> where you installed it?
17:15:13 <pa_5959> thanks ;)
17:15:20 <pa_5959> in my c drive
17:15:30 <marlop> at the root?
17:15:51 <pa_5959> no, c:\data
17:16:32 <marlop> ok
17:16:58 <pa_5959> thanks
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19:24:43 <joseperes> Hi
19:25:03 <joseperes> I need to know when the 2 b6 will be available
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19:26:27 <joseperes> HI
19:27:03 <marlop> JohnTHaller, ^^
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21:32:19 <jfcarroll> Anyone here have experience with Mozilla Thunderbird, Portable Edition?  I'm having troubles with an IMAP account.
21:32:59 <Gizmokid2005> jfcarroll: yep, but I don't use it with IMAP. What's your problem?
21:35:14 <jfcarroll> Let me explain what I'm trying to do.  We don't have Internet access at home, so I want to download the emails at school and bring them home for my wife on the flash drive.  Sounds simple, right?
21:35:22 <Gizmokid2005> not with IMAP
21:35:23 <Gizmokid2005> it's not possible
21:35:36 <jfcarroll> Oh, really?
21:35:38 <Gizmokid2005> Yep
21:35:47 <jfcarroll> I thought TB would store local copies of the messages.
21:35:49 <JohnTHaller> If you set the entire folder as synced and available for offline use and then turn Thunderbird offline, that would probably work.
21:35:50 <Gizmokid2005> IMAP is an always connected server connection, always pulls the information from the server
21:35:54 <JohnTHaller> But only for reading.
21:35:58 <Gizmokid2005> ^^ as JohnTHaller said.
21:36:02 <Gizmokid2005> otherwise you'd need to use POP3
21:36:06 <Gizmokid2005> to download the email
21:36:51 <JohnTHaller> Well, IMAP can download them as well via the above-mentioned method.  But you can't interact with the server in offline mode, so you can't go deleting messages or anything.  At least if I recall correctly.  I'm never offline, so I don't use it myself.
21:36:52 <jfcarroll> Yes, I marked a single folder in my Gmail account to be synchronized.  We have had partial success.
21:37:31 <jfcarroll> Thank you, Gizmodkid and JohnT, for your help.  This is encouraging to talk with someone about this.  We've been trying to get this to work for a few weeks now.
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21:37:45 <JohnTHaller> POP is more designed for the situation you are in... intermittent internet access, downloading everything and working with it locally, not leaving things on the server.
21:38:06 <jfcarroll> So, we have had partial success:  When we run it the first time, the messages appear, but if you run TB portable again, then all the messages disappear.
21:38:12 <Gizmokid2005> Though jfcarroll POP3 can leave things on the server if you tell it to. It doesn't download them just to your local application.
21:38:12 <JohnTHaller> You can reply and TB will send it when it goes online again.
21:38:33 <jfcarroll> Okay, perhaps IMAP wasn't designed to do this.
21:38:49 <jfcarroll> Yes, I looked at using POP, but that presents some challenges for us.
21:39:20 <JohnTHaller> POP has issues with leaving stuff on the server if you use more than one client.  Unread vs read, which messages are downloaded, etc, isn't always maintained properly.
21:39:21 <jfcarroll> We share a Gmail account, and most of the email is really for me.  I star the messages for her, and IMAP makes downloading all the starred messages easy.
21:39:42 <jfcarroll> JohnTHaller, yes, I agree, that's why I'm trying to get it to work with IMAP.
21:39:50 <JohnTHaller> Ah.  I'd actually recommend getting her her own account and setting that up to use POP.
21:40:08 <jfcarroll> To use POP, I would have to move all the messages to the [INBOX] and then have the POP client download the messages.
21:40:10 <JohnTHaller> From work, you can even take a message from your own account and move it to hers via IMAP.
21:40:52 <jfcarroll> JohnT, do you mean forward the message?  If not, how do I move messages between accounts?  Do you mean, using TB?
21:41:14 <JohnTHaller> No, you setup two accounts with IMAP in TB and you can move messages between accounts and folders.  I do it all the time.
21:41:33 <jfcarroll> BTW, I'm a full-time student, not employed, which means I'm using public computers and don't have a machine I can fully control.
21:42:17 <jfcarroll> JohnT, okay, I see how that would work, from a technical perspective.  However, with my limited time, I just jump on gmail.com quickly rather than waiting for TB Portable to load.
21:42:52 <jfcarroll> Thanks everyone for your advice.  I would be hard for us to stop sharing an email account, but I think that might be the best option for us at this point.  Thanks!
21:43:02 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome jfcarroll
21:43:13 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing
21:43:34 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: did you see my earlier messages about PidginPortable?
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21:43:46 <JohnTHaller> No
21:43:48 <JohnTHaller> Where?
21:43:53 <Gizmokid2005> moment
21:43:55 <Gizmokid2005> it was in here
21:44:03 <JohnTHaller> I don't read IRC logs nor pay attention to tells.
21:44:08 <Gizmokid2005> I know
21:44:10 <Gizmokid2005> you were in here
21:44:12 <Gizmokid2005> that's why I asked
21:44:26 <JohnTHaller> Right, but I might have been away.  Unless I respond, I didn't get it :-P
21:44:38 <Gizmokid2005> haha I figured, just sayin' :P
21:44:41 <JohnTHaller> For some reason, Pidgin can't update your nick on away, which is lame.
21:44:47 <Gizmokid2005> I know..
21:44:53 <Gizmokid2005> one of the many reasons I quit using it for IRC
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21:45:12 <Gizmokid2005> I updated Pidgin via the updater today...and clocked it in at 192 seconds to update after it downloaded
21:45:28 <Gizmokid2005> I then downloaded the installer myself, and ran it manually, it completed in 6 seconds.
21:45:39 <Gizmokid2005> then I changed the appinfo.ini to show 2.7.2 and had the updater do it again, with the same result.
21:45:44 <Gizmokid2005> ~190 seconds
21:46:25 <Gizmokid2005> it seems to ONLY affect pidgin, because I also updated Filezilla, Firefox, and whatelse was updated...and all the other installs finished in less than half the time pidgin's entire install took.
21:46:31 <JohnTHaller> It could be additional stuff on the antirvirus or something.  There's nothing different about the installer.
21:46:43 <Gizmokid2005> av was disabled, I thought about that.
21:46:50 <Gizmokid2005> it just doesn't make sense.
21:47:03 <JohnTHaller> It does the same thing regardless of hidden or shown in terms of files modified.  And all the apps use the same installer code.
21:47:20 <M4T1A5> apparently not
21:47:35 <Gizmokid2005> I know they do JohnTHaller, but something with pidgin just destroys its install time.
21:47:45 <M4T1A5> btw JohnTHaller any news on beta 6?
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21:48:32 <JohnTHaller> I have no idea, honestly.  It's the EXACT same installer code in all apps.  2.0.2.
21:48:48 <JohnTHaller> M4T1A5: when it's done.  I don't make any public estimates at all ever anymore.
21:48:50 <Gizmokid2005> any ideas as to what I might be able to look into to track it down?
21:49:07 <M4T1A5> JohnTHaller: okay then
21:49:13 <M4T1A5> just asking
21:49:33 <JohnTHaller> M4T1A5: I know.  But if I make one and miss it, the same dozen people will complain and whine and I'm honestly tired of it.
21:50:02 <M4T1A5> yeah that's what i hate it with some people
21:50:29 <M4T1A5> they don't get the difference between a solid release date and an estimated one
21:50:42 <gluxon> Gizmokid2005: I noticed a slow install time on Pidgin too.
21:50:54 <JohnTHaller> M4T1A5: So, no estimates.  Because even if I label it as tentative or something I'm shooting for and even if there are real reasons to change it (the difficult bugs in Beta 5 for example, requiring updates to the PA.c installer and 1/2 dozen apps)...
21:51:16 <gluxon> *when updating.
21:51:21 <JohnTHaller> M4T1A5: They'll act like the sky is fallen and a grave personal injustice has been perpetrated upon them.
21:51:29 <M4T1A5> :D
21:51:52 <M4T1A5> but it will most likely still be this month right?
21:53:07 <M4T1A5> well w/e it will be realeased when it will be
21:54:39 <JohnTHaller> You'll know as you see PA.c installer 2.0.3 come out, then repacks of the online installer apps.  All of that is required to fix the updater issue with proxies and software firewalls
21:55:47 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: I think I've figured it out...possibly
21:56:22 <Gizmokid2005> Looks like the way it handles the logs, it's actually recreating EVERY log file when running from the updater
21:58:39 <JohnTHaller> What logs?  The PA.c installer doesn't use any logs or change any.
21:59:45 <Gizmokid2005> pidgin's logs
22:00:23 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, but the installer doesn't touch them.
22:00:25 <Gizmokid2005> using Process Monitor, and there's a lot of "FAST IO DISALLOWED" results on the System.dll
22:00:30 <Gizmokid2005> I'm just telling you what I'm seeing
22:01:28 <JohnTHaller> But there's no code anywhere in the installer to touch anything in Data
22:02:57 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: http://gizmokid2005.pastebin.com/GN9F2Dmh <-- that's just a snippet of pretty much everything I"m seeing in Process Monitor
22:04:24 <JohnTHaller> How much space do you have free on your drive?
22:04:34 <Gizmokid2005> tons
22:04:54 <JohnTHaller> Flash drive?
22:04:56 <Gizmokid2005> no
22:05:00 <Gizmokid2005> 2.5" ext. USB HDD
22:05:04 <JohnTHaller> Hmm.
22:05:18 <Gizmokid2005> I know it's not the drive
22:05:27 <Gizmokid2005> but it's a LOT of that log file.
22:05:29 <Gizmokid2005> *stuff
22:05:36 <JohnTHaller> I tried it both ways on my PC and both installs took ~2 seconds.  Internal hd, English with no Additional Langs
22:05:44 <Gizmokid2005> do you have any logs though?
22:06:04 <JohnTHaller> How many logs files do you have?  Just do Properties in Explorer to find out.
22:06:09 <Gizmokid2005> haha
22:06:10 <Gizmokid2005> a LOT
22:06:57 <Gizmokid2005> 288MB worth
22:07:02 <Gizmokid2005> 28424 files
22:07:09 <JohnTHaller> Holy crap
22:07:13 <JohnTHaller> I figured it out.
22:07:27 <Gizmokid2005> but like I said, the installer run manually works fine.
22:07:47 <JohnTHaller> In silent mode, it's calculating the current app size (an expensive operation resource-wise) to add to the drive size even when it doesn't need to.
22:08:02 <Gizmokid2005> there you go.
22:08:10 <Gizmokid2005> I knew something was wrong.
22:08:13 <JohnTHaller> Now I gotta update every app.  Ugh.
22:11:59 <JohnTHaller> Thanks for finding it.  This'll speed up updates for lots of folks.
22:12:08 <Gizmokid2005> No worries
22:12:15 <Gizmokid2005> I knew something was wrong and refused to take No as an answer :)
22:12:22 <Gizmokid2005> thanks for helping me help you find it.
22:13:14 <JohnTHaller> I knew it wasn't something wrong specifically with Pidgin installer.  But as soon as you said you had lots of logs, I figured that might be it.  In non-silent mode, the first check is done by NSIS itself (enough space on leaving the directory page).  But I need to recreate that in the silent code.
22:13:55 <Gizmokid2005> I knew it wasn't the installer either
22:13:59 <Gizmokid2005> but I didn't know exactly what it was.
22:14:09 <JohnTHaller> In silent mode, it's only using the backup of FreeSpace +CurrentInstallSize - UpgradeInstallSize - DataSize
22:15:08 <Gizmokid2005> ahh
22:15:09 <Gizmokid2005> yeah
22:15:11 <JohnTHaller> Which I can actually fine-tune and improve as well while I'm in there to ignore Data, making it less expensive.
22:17:30 <Gizmokid2005> glad I could help fix it :) I'm surprised it wasn't expensive like that in firefox honestly
22:17:33 <Gizmokid2005> because of the cache, etc.
22:17:40 <JohnTHaller> cache is disabled in FF
22:17:50 <JohnTHaller> It's expensive per-file, not for size.
22:18:03 <JohnTHaller> And Pidgin logs are all individual files.
22:18:11 <Gizmokid2005> I know pidgin's are
22:18:20 <Gizmokid2005> FF has a 16.8MB cache folder right now.
22:18:36 <Gizmokid2005> but I see that it's only 104 files too...
22:18:55 <JohnTHaller> Ah, you enabled cache since you're on a HD
22:19:03 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, low file count, so not too expensive
22:19:29 <Gizmokid2005> I may have
22:19:49 <Gizmokid2005> *shrugs* I'm personally surprised at the lack of files in there.
22:20:05 <Gizmokid2005> I think Pidgin is probably one of the "worst" apps for this bug, at least for those who use it frequently
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22:30:40 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: Yeah, if they have logs enabled.
22:30:45 <Gizmokid2005> Yep
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22:31:26 <kiwikay> Is there a portable app to download swf files off the internet?
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22:32:47 <gluxon> kiwikay: You can do it in Firefox.
22:32:53 <gluxon> Or Firefox Portable in this case.
22:34:32 <kiwikay> Really? I have a "Flash Video Downloader" add-on installed, but it won't work
22:36:27 <Gizmokid2005> flash video is typically .flv not .swf, so that might be part of the problem, but I've never heard of or used that extension
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22:38:31 <kiwikay> Penndriveapps.com has something called iWisoft  which they say will do this, but I'm wondering if I can install a portable app that didn't come from Portableapps.com
22:40:23 <kiwikay> And you do you normally download .flv files through Firefox? Just the same way you download anything? I don't remember trying with that type of file.
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22:47:07 <gluxon> kiwikay: Normally you have to view source, find for a .swf extension, and copy the url into the url box, and download it.
22:47:37 <gluxon> If you have the Adblock Plus extension, you can just click on the block tab for a flash object, and it'll give you the url.
22:51:31 <kiwikay> Okay, looks like I've downloaded it, but it's such a tiny file I'm skeptical. It won't play with VLC, so what player do I use?
22:53:01 <gluxon> Firefox? :D
22:53:10 <gluxon> Is it a flv or swf?
22:53:36 <gluxon> If it's and flv, it should work perfectly in VLC. If it's a swf, open it in firefox and the flash plugin should take over and play it.
22:53:42 <gluxon> *an flv
22:56:16 <kiwikay> It's a swf. Openned in Firefox but there's an error. Went back to original file url and it's an error too. I'll have to figure out how that happened.
22:56:42 <kiwikay> What about my earlier question:  Penndriveapps.com has something called iWisoft  which they say will do this, but I'm wondering if I can install a portable app that didn't come from Portableapps.com
22:58:26 <JohnTHaller> You can use any portable software with the PA.c Platform.  Keep in mind that many apps on pendriveapps.com aren't fully portable, though.  They just link to apps that are portable elsewhere
23:02:31 <kiwikay> Thanks. Back to my swf file. It's hosted on www.infoquick.com which must have some way to prevent people from downloading the file (even though it's freely available on the webpage).
23:04:54 <kiwikay> Another question pls.
23:05:52 <kiwikay> When I open portable software and I get a msg that an upgrade is available, can I simply install it, or do I have to go through PortableApps to get their latest version?
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23:25:20 <kiwikay> Anyone?
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