00:00:51 Have you tried hg much? I used to be an SVN person but once I started using bzr and then hg I found they really were better than svn - and not very different in usability, either - just more useful. But, each to his own... 00:01:46 yes actually I have, and I just like the structure of svn more than I do mercurial thats all 00:02:43 One of the biggest things I actually found helpful about not using svn is that you got a .bzr or .hg folder in the root of the repository - rather than pesky .svn directories right through, so that you had to be careful in "clean" scripts and things like that to never remove a directory in version control... 00:04:05 I actually prefer the extra work (yeah I know a sucker for punishment I am) but I like what I like 00:04:28 "You are mad! Your great learning has turned you mad!" 00:04:57 A nice quotation, that. 00:04:57 and it has never let me down :P and like Rick astly said in his famous song, Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down 00:05:07 Never heard of it or him :-) 00:05:14 you're lucky then :P 00:05:29 it's a catchy song that turned into an internet prank :/ 00:06:14 And how do you cope when using grep (if you ever do)? .svn folders everywhere! (Best solution: use ack instead of grep) :-) 00:06:28 JohnTHaller: did something happen to the Thunderbird release? 00:07:25 I never used grep 00:15:02 i have a cleanup script if i ever need to get rid of the .svn folders 00:17:35 sar3th: that's what svn export does. The problem is getting rid of them by mistake 00:17:43 Because that destroys the repository. 00:17:54 Or rather, the checkout. 00:18:44 i rarely ran into problems with them 00:18:54 and i agree with ZachThibeau 00:20:47 By the way, while thinking about all that... sar3th, are you doing anything with MinGW? ZachThibeau, are you doing anything with Code::Blocks? I'd like to have them approach release. 00:23:02 to be honest I don't know anymore, with a deadline for PChat 2.0 that I'm pushing for this month and now a new project, I don't have that much time to work on codeblocks anymore, I thought I could do it, but I need to let it go, sar3th iirc has some plans for MinGWPortable last I heard from him 00:26:52 and as much as I really want to do codeblocks, I also want to see PChat 2.0 to come to fruition as well as now ChillPlayer too 00:27:52 Perhaps I'll update Code::Blocks then. 00:30:14 ChrisMorgan: i haven't had the time lately to update MinGW to anything; my launcher dealt with msys, which has changed their shell and stuff, so i'm not sure what to do; MinGW basically needs no handling at all, only MSYS does, and i don't think people use it 00:30:38 my first commit is being uploaded to svn 00:30:43 and sar3th I use msys :O 00:32:01 My opinion was that MinGW should be should be a CommonFiles package and MSYS Portable a full package that depends on MinGW, and Code::Blocks can depend on MinGW, etc. 00:32:36 i guess that would work somehow 00:33:27 The only slight hitch to it currently is that the Updater can't update CommonFiles plugins yet. 00:33:37 "somehow"? 00:33:56 i can even offer several versions of MinGW then 00:33:56 It seems to me purer - people then aren't stuck with MSYS and an app icon for it unless they want it. 00:34:32 That could be done - how would you do it - CommonFiles\MinGW\X.Y or CommonFiles\MinGW-X.Y? 00:34:33 well, the package started as MSYS Portable ;) 00:34:49 MinGW-X.4 00:34:54 *Y 00:49:47 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@184-8-139-244.shasta.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) has joined #portableapps 00:49:48 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Changing host) 00:49:48 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 01:20:57 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 01:23:53 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01:23:58 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:29:32 This Code::Blocks launcher becomes a lot simpler with PAL... Gringoloco's wildcards stuff is great, can update the drive letter in *.conf easily :-) 01:30:18 Final result: 13 lines of INI plus 27 lines of simple (and commented) NSIS... *ahhh* 01:32:25 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit) 01:43:29 *** Everest (4fb52678@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.181.38.120) has joined #portableapps 01:43:44 the CAPTCHA are getting harder every day 01:43:56 One day I won't be able to log in here 01:44:22 today it took me about 30 sec to log-in :\ 01:44:51 I wonder why isn't there a development of eMule Portable 01:44:53 ? 01:45:05 don't say viruses or fakes 01:45:50 I use it at home and when you get a clean server list and read the comments on files you never get viruses or fakes 01:46:17 it also supports filter lists that blocks bad IPs 01:47:06 Everest: captcha? 01:47:16 it also features an IRC client so you can get help in your language or just chat with people 01:48:27 ChrisMorgan: never mind, you're probably using an IRC client, I log in using the site 01:49:02 Hmm. Didn't realise Freenode had put a CAPTCHA on the thing :-/ 01:49:24 they did at some point 01:49:33 it gets harder every day 01:49:39 anyway 01:49:41 .. 01:50:17 They're getting more and more antisocial in their behaviour, I reckon... first they block a really good client, Mibbit, and relegate people to the rubbish that is webchat.freenode.net, now they're adding in CAPTCHAs... seems to me they're not at all confident of their capacity to deal with baddies. 01:51:13 they're just confused :S 01:51:41 as I was saying .. eMule should be easy to make portable as it's already offered in an archive version 01:52:01 that keeps all settings in it's own folder 01:52:47 we just need to create a launcher to handle the drive letter change when moving between PCs 01:53:16 to keep track of "Incoming" and "Temp" folders location 01:53:16 Feel free to try yourself - things like that are very easy with the PortableApps.com Launcher. 01:53:53 what do I need to do ? 01:56:30 If you're starting, it's probably easiest to take a look at other apps using PAL. 01:56:35 I would like to see this becoming official, it there a chance ? 01:56:36 *** MaienM|Sleep has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:57:18 *** Everest has quit (Quit: Page closed) 01:58:27 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@86.93.24.110) has joined #portableapps 01:58:28 *** MaienM has quit (Changing host) 01:58:28 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 01:58:31 MaienM is MaienM. He is the developer of The Mana World Portable. 01:58:36 ... 02:00:35 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:04:29 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02:19:04 JohnTHaller1: is Paul Stretch the only very recent app to use PAL? 02:19:33 Meaning, the only one of the new releases from this week to use it? 02:44:47 So... I don't believe any officially released app has used custom code with PAL yet. 02:54:36 :-( My nice changegroup hook to update the manual on my server is failing when run on the SourceForge server - wget was useless but curl gets exit code 7 - CURLE_COULDNT_CONNECT 02:55:21 *** JacobMastel (~Jacob_Mas@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 03:09:04 Restricted access. However, email should work so I can set it up that way... :-/ 03:11:32 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 04:19:03 *** JacobMastel has parted #portableapps (None) 04:32:14 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 04:32:19 hey guys 04:32:51 Hey JohnTHaller 04:33:14 Sorry I've been out. A bit sidelined with a migraine all day. 04:33:53 I finally got through all the MD5 checks and got the updater database updates so I posted the Thunderbird announcement. Sorry it had to sit on SF without people knowing most of the day. 04:35:47 I also change the PaulStretch thing to link to PAL in its source description 04:35:54 Ah thanks 04:36:16 I'll be including that field in the new directory. It's not done but it's on the list. 04:37:41 I got the list and checked what they were all doing - http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/examples/#apps-using-pal :-) 04:38:00 Ah nice. 04:42:13 I'm gonna hold off on a new app release for today and do two tomorrow instead (XN and Monster 2). I still have a splitting headache. 04:42:24 Then go to bed! :-) 04:42:36 I am. Gnight all! 04:42:44 Do you want me to take a final look over them? 04:43:30 No, thanks. I haven't even done final builds of either. Just been to out of it today. 04:43:56 night 04:44:02 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:35:09 *** OliverK (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 05:37:08 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:43:12 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 05:52:18 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Away 06:08:06 *** Everest (4fb52678@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.181.38.120) has joined #portableapps 06:08:47 *** Everest has quit (Client Quit) 07:44:44 *** Abracadabr4 (~Abra@148.203.71-86.rev.gaoland.net) has joined #portableapps 07:47:04 *** MaienM|Away is now known as MaienM 07:53:41 *** Abracadabra has quit (*.net *.split) 07:53:42 *** z3uS has quit (*.net *.split) 07:53:42 *** dbdii407 has quit (*.net *.split) 07:55:55 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407-@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 07:55:57 dbdii407 is Dave, Owner of the ScrapIRC Network. 07:56:19 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 08:24:46 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Away 08:38:59 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 09:06:27 *** Twinkletoes (~chatzilla@dze3bf81.brookes.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 09:24:13 *** dboki89 (~user@unaffiliated/dboki) has joined #portableapps 09:35:57 *** hayashi (~mbw500@sns155-82.york.ac.uk) has joined #portableapps 09:36:04 *** hayashi has parted #portableapps (None) 09:57:55 *** Abracadabr4 has quit (Changing host) 09:57:55 *** Abracadabr4 (~Abra@unaffiliated/abracadabra) has joined #portableapps 09:58:29 *** Abracadabr4 is now known as Abracadabra 10:31:34 Ah, the way spamers work is incomprehensible - https://www.ohloh.net/forums/3491/topics/5733?page=1 11:02:43 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11:04:54 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 11:28:39 *** dboki89 has quit (Quit: Most things in life cost money... Be happy with the ones that don't!) 11:40:21 *** rhumzouc (~rhumzouc@65.202.192.251) has joined #portableapps 11:41:13 *** rhumzouc has parted #portableapps (None) 11:42:15 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 12:38:07 *** ace__ (c4000a8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.0.10.138) has joined #portableapps 12:38:45 does anyone know what network.tcp.sendbuffer means in firefox about:config 12:39:40 plus network.buffer.cache.count and possibly network.buffer.cache.size 12:40:32 uhm, check firefox documentation? 12:41:48 where can I get it? 12:42:02 sorry, I'm new to this... 12:42:13 .g network.tcp.sendbuffer Firefox 12:42:14 Gizmokid2005: http://bitsup.blogspot.com/2009/02/increasing-upload-speed-from-firefox-on.html 12:42:24 there you go ace__ ^^ google is a good place to look 12:43:28 thanks... let me have a look 12:44:17 *** ace__ has quit (Quit: Page closed) 13:40:04 *** GrimReaperVI (~GrimReape@p4FEAF677.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 13:54:21 *** MaienM|Away is now known as MaienM 14:06:38 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14:09:11 *** radioflyerx (~user@h14.83.255.206.cable.htsp.cablelynx.com) has joined #portableapps 14:10:29 *** radioflyerx has quit (Client Quit) 14:11:48 *** radioflyerx (~user@h14.83.255.206.cable.htsp.cablelynx.com) has joined #portableapps 14:12:33 *** radioflyerx has parted #portableapps (None) 14:23:44 *** pandamans (~Panda.Man@gw.farmlib.org) has joined #portableapps 14:32:32 *** pa_6149 (a8b8dc04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.168.184.220.4) has joined #portableapps 14:32:43 *** pa_6149 has quit (Client Quit) 14:33:53 *** pa_4936 (a8b8dc04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.168.184.220.4) has joined #portableapps 14:33:56 *** pa_4936 has quit (Client Quit) 14:48:39 *** pa_6003 (6d41cbd0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.65.203.208) has joined #portableapps 14:48:52 .seen gluxon 14:48:52 pa_6003: I last saw gluxon at 2010-10-10 20:18:55 UTC on #portableapps 14:49:00 *** pa_6003 has quit (Client Quit) 14:52:03 *** GrimReaperVI has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:05:11 *** radioflyerx (~user@h14.83.255.206.cable.htsp.cablelynx.com) has joined #portableapps 15:06:22 *** radioflyerx has parted #portableapps (None) 15:09:37 *** superboyian (~superboyi@5e0167bf.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 15:22:24 *** JohnMc (~John@cpc3-sotn8-2-0-cust936.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #portableapps 15:30:42 *** pandamans has quit (Quit: Leaving) 15:36:08 *** Twinkletoes has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 15:39:54 *** superboyian has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15:49:02 *** superboyian (~superboyi@5e0167bf.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 16:04:16 *** jh2os24 (~jhon@208.74.224.13) has joined #portableapps 16:04:23 *** superboyian2 (~superboyi@5e0167bf.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 16:04:36 sorry 16:05:04 i was trying to join that channel cause my bot is on there and it can send me my server ip so i can ftp into it lol 16:05:07 *** superboyian has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:16:19 *** superboyian2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:32:21 *** agdurrette (~andrew@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 16:38:35 *** kaeos (~Miranda@84.76.55.235) has joined #portableapps 16:43:54 *** andreasma (~andi@p4FE34F0A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 16:54:16 *** kaeos has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16:56:55 *** agdurrette has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16:58:03 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16:59:45 *** jh2os24 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:00:19 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 17:01:11 *** rainroom69 (~RainrooM@94-224-138-250.access.telenet.be) has joined #portableapps 17:03:13 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:03:15 *** Bjorn_H (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 17:34:04 *** pa_5749 (42c1833c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.193.131.60) has joined #portableapps 17:37:00 Help! I am not certain how to organize installed apps to list and function correctly in the prtable apps platform. Music, Pictures and Video folders not functioning and auxilliary apps (CCleaner, Speccy) working files are scattered is there a example Hiarchy I could view to orgainize files? 17:37:52 if they are portable apps, they organize their files themselves and don't scatter them anywhere 17:38:42 ......I think I scattered them, would it be best to uninstall and reinstall? 17:38:57 while learning how to use the portable apps platform 17:41:14 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 17:43:54 For a small request how do I adjust the default browser between applications from Mozilla to Chrome? 17:47:13 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit) 18:16:10 *** pa_5749 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 18:36:45 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-094-217-181-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 18:36:56 hi all 18:37:08 hey Simeon :) 18:38:57 howdy Simeon 18:39:13 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18:39:20 hi Zach and sar3th 18:40:17 its always sad to see someone come here, ask something and disappear after a short time because no one answered. 18:40:36 that's true 18:41:05 sometimes its our fault because no one is here - but some people only wait 2-3 minutes... 18:41:15 I'm up to my neck in code :/ 18:41:25 Chillplayer? 18:41:43 actually no, but that's next on the list 18:41:50 PChat compilation on linux 18:41:54 ah 18:42:30 Luis a guy on my team (yes I actually have a team of coders on PChat :P) decided to make some changes that screwed things over in compiling in linux 18:42:39 not his fault really, he's more used to coding on windows 18:45:58 a little frustrating though :/ 18:46:23 yes 18:46:31 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@74-141-211-116.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 18:46:32 *** rcmaehl has quit (Changing host) 18:46:32 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 18:53:15 *** Simeon is now known as Simeon-away 19:08:26 *** rainroom69 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:12:34 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 19:17:52 *** Kyle_ (~Kyle@69.182.87.44) has joined #portableapps 19:18:02 *** Kyle_ is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 19:18:06 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Changing host) 19:18:06 *** SrgSiler|AFK (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 19:20:19 *** Simeon-away has parted #portableapps (None) 19:43:41 *** Bjorn_H has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:43:41 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 19:56:40 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 20:03:32 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20:04:14 *** benedikt93 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20:05:17 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 20:10:04 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit) 20:10:44 *** JohnMc has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:35:04 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:45:01 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 20:50:46 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a79-169-164-137.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:56:28 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 20:58:57 *** SrgSiler|AFK (~Kyle@69.182.87.44) has joined #portableapps 20:58:57 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Changing host) 20:58:57 *** SrgSiler|AFK (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 21:08:45 *** JohnMc (~John@cpc3-sotn8-2-0-cust936.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #portableapps 21:09:35 *** JohnMc has parted #portableapps (None) 21:10:05 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 21:22:18 *** JacobMastel (~Jacob@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 21:26:17 *** ronjn has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21:27:42 *** JacobMastel has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 21:30:25 *** JacobMastel (~Jacob@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 21:31:02 *** ronjn (ronjn@dslb-088-065-233-228.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 21:35:01 *** rcmaehl has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 21:45:58 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21:48:15 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:05:42 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 22:06:10 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 22:06:12 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 22:14:11 *** Everest (4fb52678@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.181.38.120) has joined #portableapps 22:14:35 is there a portable ICQ client ? 22:14:47 Pidgin and Miranda will both handle ICQ 22:15:41 I believe SeaMonkey might also support it. But I'm not sure, and that adds a browser and email client to the mix. 22:16:24 so Pidgin will handle MSN and ICQ ? 22:16:39 yes 22:16:40 It will handle pretty much everything I've ever heard of 22:17:03 MSN Yahoo, live, icq, gadu-gadu, icq, irc, facebook, myspace, AIM, 22:17:05 Gtalk... 22:17:07 The list goes on 22:18:28 http://www.pidgin.im gives a complete list on the homepage. 22:19:00 Plugins on their website add other networks to the possibilities. 22:20:47 should I use the Encryption plugin ? 22:21:15 Depending on how paranoid you are about security. You may have a valid reason for it... But I wouldn't 22:21:25 I will be using ICQ to arrange multiplayer matches 22:21:26 The person you converse with would need to have it as well. 22:22:05 Assuming you're on a secure connection (not unsecured wifi) you should be fine. 22:22:18 I won't be transferring sensitive info, 22:22:26 Then don't bother. 22:22:38 Everyone else would have to use that same plugin, and thereby all have to use pidgin. 22:22:56 I don't think they are 22:23:59 thanks for your patience 22:24:14 Np. Any other questions? 22:26:23 I'm fine for now, thank you Jacob 22:26:35 any chance you're from Slovakia ? 22:26:48 Lol no. I'm from the USA. 22:27:10 I have a friend Jacob from Slovakia :) 22:27:29 Spelled Jacob? 22:27:41 yes 22:28:30 known as FANATIC in online games 22:28:52 A foreign exchange student, from the Czech Republic), I stay in contact with spells it Jakub (accent on the u). He said that's how most people in that area spell it. 22:32:38 I can't access icq.com I want to create an account 22:33:19 Why not? 22:34:22 Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.icq.com 22:34:48 I can't connect either... 22:34:59 They may be having site issues. I just tried with FF 22:35:21 will try again later 22:43:14 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Bye) 22:44:52 *** Everest has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:45:19 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 22:52:40 *** JacobMastel is now known as JacobMastel-Away 22:55:51 *** JacobMastel-Away has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 22:59:44 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 23:04:50 *** ap_ (~ap@cable-78-35-98-218.netcologne.de) has joined #portableapps 23:05:05 *** ap_ is now known as pluma 23:05:32 *** pluma has parted #portableapps (None)