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02:09:44 <digitxp> Hello f(r)iends.
02:11:25 <ZachThibeau> hey digitxp long time no see
02:15:14 <digitxp> ah kay
02:15:34 <digitxp> Yeah, I'm an SSH convert now :P
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02:18:55 <ZachThibeau> nothing wrong with ssh
02:19:41 <digitxp> Nothing wrong with sleep either.
02:19:42 <digitxp> LOL
02:19:45 <digitxp> night
02:19:53 <ZachThibeau> later
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02:58:02 * ChrisMorgan can't believe 20 minutes of writing documentation has held up PAL 2.1 Beta 1 by over two weeks.
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03:16:14 <ChrisMorgan> There, documentation done, release made, all in only three quarters of an hour... why didn't I do that earlier?
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03:54:33 <JohnTHaller> hi all.  saw the PAL 2.1 beta post, nice ChrisMorgan
03:55:07 <ChrisMorgan> Thanks.  I just can't believe I let 20 minutes of documenting wildcards hold it up by over two weeks...
03:55:42 <JohnTHaller> it happens
03:56:02 <JohnTHaller> did you add in the filedescription fix for odd menus and window's send to?
03:56:47 <ChrisMorgan> I did.
03:57:43 <ChrisMorgan> Fortunately, once I'm actually getting releases out, it only takes five minutes to do the whole release (creating/updating the forum topic takes the longest), so I can do new betas quickly.
03:59:28 <ChrisMorgan> How's Platform 2.0 Beta 6 coming along?
04:01:22 <JohnTHaller> nic
04:01:24 <JohnTHaller> nice
04:01:56 <ChrisMorgan> Good.
04:02:02 <JohnTHaller> Pretty well.  Been a bit sidetracked with catching up on apps and installer/updater fixes.  Finally nailed down the issue with online installers and the updater leaving copies of DLed files in TempIntCache
04:02:50 <ChrisMorgan> Anything I can help with at the moment?  I've just done my second exam, third one is next Monday, plenty of time :-)
04:03:39 <JohnTHaller> Not at the moment, but will probably need you to test shortly.  Maybe do some updater cleanup and fixes if you feel like it too
04:03:47 <JohnTHaller> I wanna rush on b7, etc after getting b6 up
04:06:20 <JohnTHaller> btw - did you know you can't directly delete files out of the temp internet cache folder because it's not a real folder?
04:08:54 <ChrisMorgan> I would have thought delete would follow the thing...
04:09:21 <ChrisMorgan> So how have you gone about deleting it?
04:09:34 <JohnTHaller> Nope.  It does nothing.  It's a virtual folder and you can have 100 files all called favicon.ico in it, for instance.
04:10:12 <JohnTHaller> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa383983%28VS.85%29.aspx
04:11:08 <ChrisMorgan> I had come across the fact that it wasn't a genuine folder (found in a similar way, trying to purge specific items in command prompt years ago)
04:11:55 <JohnTHaller> I hadn't played with it before.  And the odd thing is that it doesn't always cache the file.  But I researcxhed it more and found the proper API call.  It works a treat
04:12:39 <ChrisMorgan> How will that go with redirects, though?  I presume you can straighten out the PortableApps.com redirect ones, but if the provider redirects the URL on their own server, or SourceForge redirects?  Do they work?
04:12:54 <ChrisMorgan> Or does the download plugin tell you the final URL it ended up at?
04:13:34 <JohnTHaller> It worked for one I tried, though it seemed to redirect in the bg.  Another I tried (Java) didn't cache.
04:13:54 <ChrisMorgan> Curious.
04:14:03 <ChrisMorgan> Might be the filesize.
04:14:22 <JohnTHaller> I'm still working on other redirects and need to thoroughly test SF redirects.  I may have to loop through the whole cache to delete em.  I'd write that as a plugin probably.
04:15:01 <ChrisMorgan> I'd recommend not using a plugin.  Makes for harder maintenance and is bigger.
04:15:25 <JohnTHaller> But it will probably run faster, since looping through 20,000 entries may be slow.
04:16:01 <ChrisMorgan> Forgot about the potential number of items...  that would be slow in NSIS, probably several seconds.
04:16:16 <ChrisMorgan> But still it ends up being a matter of whether it matters.
04:16:31 <ChrisMorgan> If System::Call is slow, the first check is that /NOUNLOAD is added.
04:16:32 <JohnTHaller> And we'd neeed to do it multiple times in the case of the updater if you downloaded say 10 app updates.
04:18:45 <JohnTHaller> You know c++?
04:18:51 <ChrisMorgan> Little or none.
04:19:18 <JohnTHaller> Hmm.  I may get Steve or Gringo to take a look if we can set inetc not to cache the stuff it downloads.  I thought about it last night but didn't research it more til now.
04:19:18 <ChrisMorgan> Python is my language.
04:20:43 <JohnTHaller> Ah, we can.  And I found where in the code to set it.  Just gotta see about getting it compiling.
04:21:07 <JohnTHaller> This'll solve all the problems simply.  And should probably be the inetc default, honestly.
04:21:24 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, that could also sort out any issues with bad cache.
04:21:43 <JohnTHaller> True, though that would be unlikely.
04:21:57 <ChrisMorgan> True.  And most users probably just try once.
04:22:04 <ChrisMorgan> s/users/developers/
04:22:53 <ChrisMorgan> On another note, my Development Toolkit is coming along nicely; I've put quite a bit of work into in the past week or two.  It can do full PAF validation, create a package, has an appinfo.ini editor (including auto-filling AppID, Publisher, Homepage, Description from Name when creating a package).
04:23:50 <JohnTHaller> Cool
04:23:55 <JohnTHaller> Whatcha writing it in?
04:23:59 <ChrisMorgan> Python.
04:24:05 <ChrisMorgan> Of course :P
04:24:08 <JohnTHaller> Gonna use the compile tools on it?
04:24:18 <ChrisMorgan> Compile tools?
04:24:37 <JohnTHaller> You can compile python down to native code on Windows.  Runs faster and takes up less room.
04:24:54 <JohnTHaller> Otherwise, python apps are huge
04:25:04 <ChrisMorgan> With what?  I haven't come across any that works properly.
04:25:16 <JohnTHaller> Can't recall offhand.  It was used on Cornice
04:25:52 <ChrisMorgan> If I can find one, I'd be rapt.  But I haven't ever found any.
04:27:52 <JohnTHaller> I believe it was py2exe.  It's apparently a bit tricky to get setup right but then works fine.
04:27:58 <ChrisMorgan> I still wouldn't call it huge.  Including Python and wxPython and the SWIG bindings of SWORD, compressed BPBible was still under 10MB.
04:28:31 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, py2exe is the normal thing; that doesn't convert it to native code - it compiles all to Python byte code, bundles it up with the interpreter and what it needs.
04:29:43 <ChrisMorgan> I'm using PyQt4 for the GUI at the moment; not sure exactly how the size will compare with wxPython.
04:30:03 <JohnTHaller> Uh oh.  Everything Qt is HUGE
04:30:47 <ChrisMorgan> I'll try building it in py2exe now and see what it ends up as.
04:31:00 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think you'll find it ends up all that large, actually.
04:31:44 <JohnTHaller> iirc, the older versions started at 5mb before adding any features.
04:31:52 <JohnTHaller> 5mb for hello world, that is
04:33:21 <ChrisMorgan> e.g. 4MB for QtCore.dll - but then it compresses with UPX to <1MB
04:33:29 <JohnTHaller> Ah, qt4 i believe is 11mb starting with just qtcore4.dll and qtgui4.dll.
04:34:47 <ChrisMorgan> The QtCore.dll size is just my memory, don't have precise figures at hand
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04:38:13 <ChrisMorgan> QtCore4.dll: 2.3MB -> 903KB, QtGui4.dll: 9.1MB -> 3.6MB
04:38:43 <ChrisMorgan> Not sure what the comparable wxWidgets stuff is like, haven't got wxPython installed anywhere in Windows.
04:40:03 <JohnTHaller> Odd, I just snagged the official LGPL build and core is 2.2 and gui is 7.8
04:40:23 <ChrisMorgan> These will have extra Python stuff.
04:40:56 <JohnTHaller> ... and they go from 10M to 4.3M
04:41:01 <JohnTHaller> Ah, that could be it
04:41:53 <ChrisMorgan> I'm also looking into PySide, which is the Nokia LGPL version, it may be smaller but at present it doesn't automatically bind signals and whatnot by method name, otherwise I would have switched to PySide as it kills off the QString mess while PyQt4 only does that in Python 3.
04:43:06 <ChrisMorgan> But the main reason I've worked with PyQt so far rather than wxPython is so that I can get WebKit easily for integrating the PortableApps.com Launcher manual and related things - QtWebKit4.dll is 14.9MB, 4.1MB after compression.
04:43:58 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... didn't realize it compressed that well.
04:44:00 <ChrisMorgan> My brothers have been trying to get a webkit thing working with wxPython for BPBible 0.5; Jon's been able to get wxWebConnect working (though he had to fix various things in it before it was usable).
04:44:10 <ChrisMorgan> Qt generally compresses /really/ well.
04:44:22 <ChrisMorgan> It's about the best compressee I've seen.
04:45:48 <ChrisMorgan> But still, I'll see how this thing of mine ends up done with py2exe with the optimal settings for compression (which I figured out with BPBible - its make_py2exe is the most sophisticated and best py2exe script in existence as far as I'm aware).
04:46:22 <JohnTHaller> I like python but never knew how to do GUI work in it.
04:47:29 <ChrisMorgan> I've been learning PyQt as I go along, and the results are looking pretty good.
04:47:59 <ChrisMorgan> Qt is much more sophisticated than GTK or wxWidgets.
04:49:48 <ChrisMorgan> And Python is such a /nice/ language... pity PyQt4 spoils it somewhat with xyz() and setXyz() getters and setters rather than properties (wxPython is just as bad) - PySide should be getting rid of those at some point though, then it'll be the most Pythonic of any GUI bindings.
04:50:12 <JohnTHaller> alright, must crash.  work and vet in the am
04:50:40 <ChrisMorgan> Goodnight - I'll get back to you with the results when I've got 'em :-)
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06:07:53 <ChrisMorgan> Unfortunately I can't get py2exe working :-(
06:09:20 <JacobMastel> Sorry I know nothing about Python...
06:09:29 <JacobMastel> I'm working on C...
06:09:39 <ChrisMorgan> The thing's just not /installing/
06:09:49 <JacobMastel> Integrity fail maybe?
06:10:54 <ChrisMorgan> But it starts fine in Wine... but in XP, "This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem."
06:11:16 <JacobMastel> Lol the standard useless XP error message.
06:11:59 <ChrisMorgan> Probably some DLL dependency, but what?
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07:04:03 <ChrisMorgan> !  Got it :-)
07:07:34 * auscompgeek hates WinXP's errors
07:08:25 <ChrisMorgan> It was actually very helpful having Wine - the error messages produced in Wine were more helpful than those in XP almost every time.
07:08:40 <ChrisMorgan> Except that first time when it /worked/ in Wine but didn't in XP.
07:09:30 <ChrisMorgan> So, I can report to John: 9MB.
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07:17:57 <radexito> hi people
07:18:11 <radexito> can som1 help me with registry keys?
07:18:22 <radexito> i never dealed with registry in pa
07:18:42 <radexito> and now i need this to be in registry
07:18:47 <radexito> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Electronic Arts\EA Games\Battlefield Heroes] "Installation Dir"="F:\\BfH\\Game" "Language"="English"
07:19:32 <radexito> and it would be nice if F:\\ could be changed to the game dir... on the flash drive
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07:21:34 <radexito_> hello
07:21:37 <radexito_> hi people can som1 help me with registry keys? i never dealed with registry in pa and now i need this to be in registry [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Electronic Arts\EA Games\Battlefield Heroes] "Installation Dir"="F:\\BfH\\Game" "Language"="English" and it would be nice if F:\\ could be changed to the game dir... on the flash drive
07:21:49 <radexito_> sry my ethernet cable fallen out...
07:23:35 <auscompgeek> How simple.
07:23:45 <auscompgeek> Use the PortableApps.com Launcher Generator.
07:24:06 <radexito_> ok thanks im going to search for it...
07:24:17 <auscompgeek> It's on the front page?
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07:24:28 <radexito_> idk i got it
07:24:33 <radexito_> lol
07:24:35 <radexito_> no i didnt
07:24:37 <radexito_> XD
07:24:58 <auscompgeek> Click the link at the top labelled "PortableApps.com Launcher".
07:25:32 <radexito_> i got it already...
07:27:06 <radexito_> and how would that app help me its for packing just like nsis or something....
07:27:48 <radexito_> that app needs registry key be4 it can be launched and no it cant be launched a firefox/ie addon launches it... :/
07:38:01 <radexito_> any 1 there?
07:38:37 <auscompgeek> Read the readme...
07:39:00 <auscompgeek> and modify the add-on to run the launcher...
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07:51:19 <radexito_> i dont understund
07:58:50 <auscompgeek> then it seems I might not be able to help you
08:00:18 <ChrisMorgan> radexito_: with the PortableApps.com Launcher, you'll have lines of configuration like this:
08:00:26 <ChrisMorgan> [RegistryKeys]
08:00:46 <ChrisMorgan> some filename=HKLM\Software\Electronic Arts\EA Games\Battlefield Heroes
08:01:14 <ChrisMorgan> [RegistryCleanupIfEmpty]
08:01:28 <ChrisMorgan> 1=HKLM\Software\Electronic Arts\EA Games
08:01:30 <ChrisMorgan> 2=HKLM\Software\Electronic Arts
08:01:39 <ChrisMorgan> [RegistryValueWrite]
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08:02:13 <ChrisMorgan> HKLM\Software\Electronic Arts\EA Games\Battlefield Heroes\Installation Dir=REG_SZ:%PAL:AppDir%\BattlefieldHeroes
08:02:56 <ChrisMorgan> radexito_: the idea with the PortableApps.com Launcher is to make it easy to make portable apps the right way.
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08:09:21 <radexito_> what would be the somefilename thingy
08:10:31 <ChrisMorgan> Whatever you want... could be battlefieldheroes
08:10:50 <ChrisMorgan> Refer to the manual for explanation of what it is.
08:11:41 <ChrisMorgan> You could even get it doing language switching easily.
08:12:42 <ChrisMorgan> However, I've just observed your "a firefox/ie addon launches it" - if the addon is hardcoded to run the main executable, then you're stuck.  I doubt that it would /require/ it to be launched from that, though.
08:17:02 <radexito_> well its like that u install addon and if u have the reg keys it launches/autoupdates game if not then it downloads game....
08:17:17 * radexito_ is really confused!
08:17:29 * auscompgeek blinks
08:17:42 * radexito_ says lol
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09:20:34 <mark__> helo
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09:21:47 <[markgovender]> helo
09:22:07 <[markgovender]> do you pay to sign up for an account on Portableapps.com
09:23:00 <[markgovender]> do you pay to sign up for an account on Portableapps.com
09:23:34 <[markgovender]> help
09:24:03 <ChrisMorgan> [markgovender]: no, of course not.  We don't do things that way.
09:24:19 <[markgovender]> thank you Chris
09:24:24 <[markgovender]> I thought not
09:25:01 <[markgovender]> Chris do you know wether any of the softwares contain any viruses
09:25:27 <[markgovender]> @ChrisMorgan
09:25:48 <ChrisMorgan> Of course they don't!  We wouldn't ever distribute software with viruses.
09:26:13 <[markgovender]> good
09:26:25 <[markgovender]> chris do you work for portableapps
09:26:51 <ChrisMorgan> I develop software here, but I'm not currently an employee.
09:27:27 <[markgovender]> chris how do you develop the software i would like to get involved
09:27:58 <ChrisMorgan> For starters, read http://portableapps.com/development
09:28:27 <[markgovender]> ok
09:28:36 <ChrisMorgan> Generally, to join in you need to have something to do, which means you should come up with a particular app you want portable, and then work out how to make it portable.
09:29:03 <[markgovender]> ok, so say i want to do security
09:29:07 <[markgovender]> what do i do
09:29:40 <ChrisMorgan> First of all you need to have an app you want to make portable.
09:30:20 <[markgovender]> so i have to create an app
09:30:53 <ChrisMorgan> No, you just need to choose an app.
09:37:20 <[markgovender]> ok, so for instance usb secure
09:39:43 <ChrisMorgan> I think you'd probably find that a very difficult one to start with.
09:39:44 <[markgovender]> chris so for instance if i chose usb secure
09:40:03 <[markgovender]> ok what do you recommend
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09:40:31 <Radek> my (router) laptop sleeped... GRR
09:40:52 <Radek> so can i still get help with BFHeroes portable?
09:41:27 <ChrisMorgan> Radek: have you tried approximately what I gave you and read a fair bit of the PAL manual?
09:41:40 <ChrisMorgan> [markgovender]: don't know
09:42:00 <Radek> where can i find the manual?
09:42:08 <Radek> and no i heavent
09:42:36 <[markgovender]> ok so just say i chose scratch
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09:42:50 <Radexito> aha
09:43:11 <Radexito> ohh and i need thease reg keys pernament....
09:43:58 <Radexito> im thinking of just making a c++ app that does reg keys and then opens webbrowser to the page u need
09:44:08 <ChrisMorgan> Radexito: PAL takes care of all that.
09:44:12 <Radexito> i think it would be easier
09:44:29 <Radexito> PortableAppsL***???
09:44:30 <ChrisMorgan> It /shouldn't/ need to have a browser plugin - if it does, you're sunk.
09:44:36 <ChrisMorgan> PortableApps.com Launcher
09:44:55 <Radexito> i have firefox portable and all i need is those reg keys....
09:45:13 <Radexito> and to install the plugin on the firefox...
09:45:58 <ChrisMorgan> Have you tried installing plugins in Firefox Portable?
09:46:26 <Radexito> i cant at the moment cos im using nomal firefox to chat with u chatzilla....
09:47:31 <ChrisMorgan> Installing plugins in Firefox Portable is a hit and miss affair.
09:47:43 <ChrisMorgan> It's extremely improbable that the plugin is the only way of launching it.
09:47:52 <Radexito> well just copy folder from normal firefox?
09:48:15 <Radexito> well there is only ONE other way and its pain in the ASS!
09:49:10 <ChrisMorgan> ... Run the executable?
09:49:18 <Radexito> you have to rightclick playnow button on homepage and click save then you need to get the hash thats generated and do bfheroes.exe -sonething hashhere
09:49:25 <Radexito> parameters....
09:49:30 <Radexito> nope
09:49:34 <Radexito> it wount work
09:49:44 <Radexito> ea is being biitch
09:49:51 <Radexito> i made a launcher for it :P
09:50:21 <[markgovender]> Chris how do i make the software portable
09:50:40 <Radexito> it uses IE ActiveX to run it....
09:50:58 <ChrisMorgan> Radexito: quite seriously then, forget it.
09:51:08 <Radexito> :P
09:51:11 <Radexito> neva XD
09:51:20 <ChrisMorgan> Radexito: OK, you're on your own though.
09:51:35 <ChrisMorgan> [markgovender]: go through the link I gave you earlier
09:51:37 <Radexito> can i make portable app open 2 apps ?
09:51:52 <Radexito> as it opens registry.reg and then firefox
09:52:27 <Radexito> well i dont really need that but it would be nice...
09:53:18 <ChrisMorgan> Radexito: you don't do it that way with PAL - that's what [RegistryKeys] etc. are for.
09:53:53 <Radexito> but the game doesnot use registry the addon does...
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10:07:57 <ChrisMorgan> It's interesting trying to figure out various things with py2exe... its documentation is sadly lacking.
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10:18:01 <Radexito> ok i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:18:10 <Radexito> install.vbs:
10:18:12 <Radexito> cmd /c regedit /s K:\PortableApps\BFHeroes\reg.reg
10:18:14 <Radexito> Set WshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
10:18:15 <Radexito> WshShell.Run "K:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\FirefoxPortable.exe 'http://battlefieldheroes.com/playnow'"
10:18:31 <Radexito> lol the server of game has internal error at moment
10:18:32 <Radexito> xd
10:18:42 <Radexito> appinfo:
10:18:44 <Radexito> Start=install.vbs
10:18:57 <Radexito> reg.reg
10:19:00 <Radexito> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
10:19:02 <Radexito> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Electronic Arts\EA Games\Battlefield Heroes]
10:19:04 <Radexito> "Installation Dir"="K:\PortableApps\BFHeroes"
10:19:05 <Radexito> "Language"="English"
10:19:29 <Radexito> now the addon...
10:23:52 <Radexito> ok i think i win XD
10:24:06 <Radexito> i will quit if i dont rejoin it works...
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12:43:41 <pa_4361> How do I get my portable apps device to instantly load PA when I insert it into my laptop?
12:47:13 <BeckySanderlin`x> isnt there a option for that in the beta loader?
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13:45:09 <Drive-Dude> Hi I did found some open source software which I wante to convert to portable. But I dont now have to use PortableApps.com Installer
13:45:24 <Drive-Dude> know not now
13:48:39 <Drive-Dude> I will come back soon
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13:49:50 <heroold> hello everybody
13:55:03 <heroold> when will there be a portable version of libreoffice? a main part of openoffice team seems to have split off
13:56:58 <Gizmokid2005> heroold: there's still a lot of controversy of libreoffice and PA.c is still working with oracle to get OO.org permission to list.
13:59:01 <heroold> okay, thanks
13:59:38 <heroold> maybe libre office is a little bit faster? ;-) thanks at all
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14:17:38 <Drive-Dude> Hi did found some open source software that I wante to make portable. #but I dont know how to use PortableApps.com Installer and PortableApps.com Launcher -
14:19:51 <Drive-Dude> Is it hard to use?
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14:40:25 <Drive-Dude> Hi What do you need to create my own portableappss
14:40:40 <Drive-Dude> Hi What do I need to create my own portableapps
14:43:03 <Gizmokid2005> Drive-Dude: you've asked this before...
14:43:10 <Gizmokid2005> you need to read up in the development section
14:43:12 <Gizmokid2005> as well as here
14:43:16 <Gizmokid2005> .def field_guide
14:43:16 <GizmoBot> field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
14:44:45 <Drive-Dude> Yes I remember but I did forget
14:44:53 <Drive-Dude> Have a nice day
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19:27:23 <Gringoloco> JohnTHaller: Any luck with inetc.dll ?
19:31:11 <JohnTHaller> Hi Gringoloco
19:31:33 <JohnTHaller> It wouldn't upgrade and compile with VC 2010 on my machine.  Had you gotten it to compile on yours before?
19:31:55 <Gringoloco> Compiles that easy on VC 6.0
19:31:58 <Gringoloco> :)
19:32:11 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I was gonna dig out my old copy and install it to get it running, heh
19:32:29 <Gringoloco> I'm wondering what part of the code you where looking at to modify
19:33:18 <JohnTHaller> Adding INTERNET_FLAG_NO_CACHE_WRITE to HttpOpenRequest
19:34:08 <JohnTHaller> Lines 586 and 654 in the current code DLed from NSIS that was updated in June
19:35:07 <Gringoloco> just a moment
19:35:12 <JohnTHaller> Was gonna add INTERNET_FLAG_NO_COOKIES as well
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19:37:57 <Simeon> hi all
19:38:59 <Gringoloco> Hi Simeon
19:39:34 <Gringoloco> JohnTHaller: Build it ! Will I send you a copy of the plug-in ?
19:43:00 <JohnTHaller> Built as Unicode, right?
19:43:04 <JohnTHaller> hi Simeon
19:43:22 <Simeon> hi everyone, Gringo and John!
19:43:23 <Gringoloco> What was that side called I could temporary send files ?
19:43:32 <Gringoloco> Yes Unicode release
19:44:27 <JohnTHaller> send it to the dev address for pa.c
19:45:32 <Simeon> I am glad youre working on that problem - I is amazed it was so difficult .
19:46:42 <Simeon> I mad the observation that sometimes there are multiple folders (named something like DSA12345) inside InternetTemp and sometimes there are just the files...
19:46:52 <JohnTHaller> Well, I came up with a way to delete it from the temporary internet files virtual directory using a Windows API call.  But then I though that just recompiling inetc to turn off cache in the api call when it downloads made more asense
19:47:05 <Simeon> Inetc???
19:47:15 <JohnTHaller> inet temp isn't a real directory.  you can have 50 favicon.ico files in there.
19:47:52 <JohnTHaller> inetc is the NSIS component we use to download.  It uses a WinAPI call to open the connection and get the download.  So I researched it to figurre out how to tell it not to use cache or cookies for that connection, solving our issue.
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19:48:18 <Simeon> turning off cache generally for the updater/installer is better imho as it takes care of the whole thing on a more basis level.
19:48:21 <JohnTHaller> But it wouldn't compile in vs2010, so I was just about to go dig out my old vc6 disc when Gringoloco happened by :)
19:48:29 <Simeon> nice :)
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19:48:48 <Simeon> so its a NSIS plugin written in a different language?
19:49:01 <JohnTHaller> Exactly.  So we're gonna use this updated inetc component in the installers and updaters.  I'm gonna push updates to the online installers once it's done.
19:49:02 <Simeon> plugins dont have to be NSIS - stupid me!
19:49:05 <Gringoloco> JohnTHaller: I'm not sure what you mean by : 'dev address for pa.c'
19:49:10 <JohnTHaller> It's an NSIS plugin written in C++
19:49:17 <Gringoloco> http://www.filedropper.com/inetc
19:49:26 <JohnTHaller> developers_developers@portableapps.com
19:49:28 <Gringoloco> But that's it
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19:50:11 <JohnTHaller> got it
19:50:12 <Simeon> Do you plan to make an upstream release/report it to the plugin's dev?
19:50:30 <JohnTHaller> Yeah.  Not sure if they'll want the change, but it definitely WOULD make sense.
19:50:56 <Simeon> and youre catching both the updater and the online installer with one thing.
19:50:57 <JohnTHaller> Gringoloco: could you compile an ANSI version, too?  And you did both the cache and no cookies flags right?
19:51:44 <Gringoloco> Yes both the flags (INTERNET_FLAG_NO_CACHE_WRITE | INTERNET_FLAG_NO_COOKIES)
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19:51:56 <JohnTHaller> Along with the ones that are already there, right?
19:52:15 <JohnTHaller> INTERNET_FLAG_RELOAD | INTERNET_FLAG_KEEP_CONNECTION
19:53:21 <Gringoloco> Yes, just added them to the list
19:53:27 <JohnTHaller> Cool
19:53:38 <JohnTHaller> Can you post me your updated source and an ansi build, too?
19:53:55 <JohnTHaller> email is fine
19:54:06 <Gringoloco> I'll send the whole package including the source and ansi plug-in by email.
19:54:10 <Simeon> John: any news on the new page layout/setup/translation options?
19:54:11 <JohnTHaller> nice thanks
19:54:31 <JohnTHaller> I'm still working on it.  I've been a bit busy with the coding updates.
19:54:48 <Gringoloco> but I think it'll be good to know first if it actually does the job right ?
19:55:06 <JohnTHaller> yeah, I'm gonna test it before including it.
19:55:20 <Simeon> ok. Mozilla had quite a bunch - fixing zero-day exploits...!
19:56:17 <JohnTHaller> I know.  I did the 48 packages that day.  Just realized I need the 16 seamonkey packages out, so those are building now.
19:56:52 <Simeon> 48!12 x 4?Thats a lot.
19:57:16 <JohnTHaller> 16 x 3.  FF36, FF35, TB3
19:58:02 <Simeon> do you know how many people actually use the languages other than french, german and english?
19:58:20 <JohnTHaller> You can check in the SF page the stats of each from the last release I think
19:58:28 <Simeon> I think i am gonna see what sf stats say to that question...
20:00:08 <Simeon> Anyone know the sf.net-sorry-something-happened-picture? I think its funny: http://a.fsdn.com/sorry/melty.png
20:00:49 <JohnTHaller> simeon: https://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files_beta/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Edition%203.6.12/  click the (i) icon next to each
20:01:23 <Simeon> I tried the regular interface which doesnt work atm
20:01:28 <Simeon> Thanks john!
20:01:29 <Gringoloco> JohnTHaller: send it to the mail address
20:01:49 <JohnTHaller> you're welcome
20:02:20 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: It may not be the best representation since it's only based on about 4 days of data (the log is always behind).
20:02:48 <JohnTHaller> So it's under 100k downloads.
20:02:53 <Simeon> its sufficient to have a look at the small icon - russian is the most-wanted after english
20:04:10 <Gringoloco> It compiled without any additional compiler options and without any warnings
20:04:31 <JohnTHaller> ... and that's not including the downloads from Yandex either
20:04:42 <JohnTHaller> Gringoloco: Got it.  Thanks!
20:05:14 <Gringoloco> Didn't do much really, didn't even test it ;)
20:05:54 <JohnTHaller> Heh.  I know.  But you saved me having to install VC6.  Though I probably should in case I need it later.
20:07:40 <Simeon> Yandex?
20:07:55 <Simeon> did it say why it didnt compile?
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20:09:44 <Simeon> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./stats/timeline says "top country: Russia 41%" What happened to us/uk??? Didnt know russia was so portable!
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20:12:19 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I'm surprised, too.
20:12:53 <Simeon> too bad you cant list all portableapps files by country
20:13:12 <ZachThibeau> hola John and simeon
20:13:23 <Simeon> hi zach
20:13:51 <Simeon> D' you redo your blog? Found n old bookmark today that wasnt working anymore :)
20:14:07 <ZachThibeau> redo?
20:14:11 <ZachThibeau> what was the url?
20:14:34 <Simeon> about ubuntu from 2008 - I deleted it
20:14:54 <ZachThibeau> o_O
20:15:26 <Simeon> Thats what you get for saving it for later - the internet is too fast! ;) :)
20:15:37 <ZachThibeau> the only personal blog I maintain has been zachthibeau.com, and some other sites related to my projects :P
20:15:54 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: Those stats are messed up with Russia and the US.  I'd be surprised anyway, since FF english is the most popular and FF russian is less popular.
20:16:09 <Simeon> aha
20:17:55 <Simeon> it only shows the last... days. but it seems to be russia: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox,%20Portable%20Ed./stats/map?dates=2010-02-01%20to%202010-11-02
20:18:41 <Simeon> 84% are downloading from Windows - Where is the rest??? ;)
20:19:52 <Simeon> oh and you CAN see the statistics of the whole project.nice
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20:49:38 <Simeon> hi chris
20:56:52 <Simeon> gnight all
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21:05:23 <JohnTHaller> hi ChrisMorgan
21:05:36 <ChrisMorgan> Hey John
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21:26:50 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Got the cache issue sorted.  Recompiled inetc to disable it on download.  Gringoloco was kind enough to add in my changes and compile it since he already had VC6 installed.
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21:30:51 <ChrisMorgan> Good :-)
21:31:31 <ChrisMorgan> As for Python 2.6 + QtCore and QtGui from PyQt4, it's 8MB compressed optimally.
21:55:28 <JohnTHaller> not bad
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21:55:49 <JohnTHaller> alright, must run and vote.  back a bit later.
21:56:20 <ZachThibeau> have fun
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22:06:57 <pa_7435> hi
22:07:25 <pa_7435> hi
22:07:42 <ChrisMorgan> Hi, pa_7435; do you have a question?
22:08:12 <pa_7435> when will the new sea monkey be released
22:08:38 <ChrisMorgan> It's in the release queue at the moment.
22:08:48 <pa_7435> ok thanks
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