00:03:16 ChrisMorgan, I've pinpointed the folder of the file that doesn't like UPX (plugins). Now to go through one-by-one. 00:04:26 Possibly wiser to leave the whole folder. 00:04:54 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 00:05:02 817KB, it's not going to save enough space to warrant a potential breakage, I reckon. 00:05:17 *** rcmaehl has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:05:32 Alright. 00:09:42 It appears none of them like UPX anyway. 00:19:08 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@74-141-211-116.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 00:19:17 *** rcmaehl has quit (Changing host) 00:19:17 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 00:23:53 So apparently, AppCompactor.ini doesn't even work. 00:24:56 !? 00:25:20 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:25:48 What directory are you telling it? 00:29:36 I would use FilesExcluded, correct? Before I try again, does it support asterisks? 00:30:39 No. 00:31:08 K. (I'm not using them anyway) 00:31:41 The line is rather long, so I'll pastebin it in a minute. 00:33:56 You should be giving it the root of the package, by the way. 00:34:57 So I need %PAL:AppDir% too then? 00:36:07 Er, not PAL. But the whole line? 00:36:13 directory* 00:36:52 http://scriptdaemon.pastebin.com/PTfVEULp This is what I last used. 00:36:55 Don't know. Look at the source code and see if you can figure it out. 00:37:18 I /think/ it may be just filenames. 00:37:28 I tried that too. Also didn't work. 00:37:38 If you can work anything out from the source code, well done. It's something fearsome. 00:37:45 lol. 00:38:04 I'll just leave the AppCompactor.ini file out and ask John about it when I see him. 00:38:07 In Python it'd be much neater and easier to understand, and putting in e.g. glob functionality would be trivial rather than excruciatingly difficult. 00:46:30 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 01:02:09 ChrisMorgan, updated. Fixed icon, added UPX compression, removed include folder. 01:21:02 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 01:25:30 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 01:37:44 Hmm, I've got a problem with the installer, I keep getting this at the end: 01:37:51 "Error: invalid VIProductVersion format, should be X.X.X.X" 01:37:59 Anyone got any ideas? 01:41:17 *** rcmaehl has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:45:18 nsis requires versioning structures of 4 number IE 4.0.21.4 01:45:49 taneth111: PackageVersion must be X.X.X.X 01:45:59 nevermind, found it 01:46:01 thanks though 01:54:43 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 02:17:30 *** dboki89 has quit (Quit: Most things in life cost money... Be happy with the ones that don't!) 02:17:54 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 02:30:41 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:43:01 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 03:22:20 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.23.212) has joined #portableapps 03:22:51 ChrisMorgan, I'm about to post a small update to OpenTTD Portable. Mind taking a look at that one when you have time too? 03:23:06 I think I can 03:37:56 ChrisMorgan, http://portableapps.com/node/23267 03:42:36 Scriptdaemon: downloading, will give to validator to chew but then I won't test it any more today as I'm meant to be busy writing my résumé and applying for a couple of jobs 03:43:19 Pass. 03:44:48 Alright. Just trying to get a few more of my apps the all clear for PR. I'll have to ask John if he ever saw your comments in my Fyre Portable thread. 03:44:49 Two minor things: OpenTTD is an open source clone of the Microprose game "Transport Tycoon Deluxe." should be OpenTTD is an open source clone of the Microprose game "Transport Tycoon Deluxe" (removed the .), and Launcher\OpenTTDPortable.ini doesn't end with EOL (bad INI style) 03:45:00 It's meant to be being released some time. 03:45:25 What text editor did you use? 03:45:34 Notepad++ 03:45:45 Interesting. Would have thought it would conclude with EOL. 03:45:57 I can add one manually. 03:46:28 The next release should be soon, so I'll include those when I update for 1.0.5. 03:46:52 In Vim when you open such files the status line shows when you open it [noeol] 03:47:51 It's very noticeable if you ever use cat to output it to bash - the file finishes and it goes back to the prompt without printing a new line (messy). Command Prompt always puts in an extra newline, so if you used whatever the equivalent is in it, you'd get no blank line between the output and the next prompt, where normally you do. 03:48:15 Ah. 03:48:56 Should I remove the periods from all my apps descriptions then? 03:49:09 apps' * 03:49:38 I wouldn't ever include one unless it's multiple sentences. 04:09:28 Scriptdaemon: "Japanese=japenese" - is that correct? 04:09:48 No. >.> 04:10:05 Well, wait. Let me check. Pretty sure I made a typo though. 04:10:52 Okay, yeah. The typo is mine. 04:13:10 Also a few other language things: Welsh=welsh, EnglishGB=english, NorwegianNynorsk=norwegian_nynorsk, Icelandic=icelandic, Esperanto=esperanto 04:17:59 *** ZachThibeau is now known as ZachT|ZzZz 04:18:10 The installer supported GB English? I don't see it on the dev page for the installer. 04:18:14 supports* 04:18:17 night folks I work early in the morning and I need to sleep 04:18:25 Night ZachT|ZzZz 04:19:18 Er, wrong one. Installer != Menu 04:20:43 *** Kyle_ (~Kyle@69.182.79.239) has joined #portableapps 04:20:50 *** Kyle_ is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 04:20:58 Oh, I see. The ones you listed are from the installer, not the menu. So there is no option for those for language switching, no? 04:20:59 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Changing host) 04:20:59 *** SrgSiler|AFK (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 04:32:51 Scriptdaemon: some of the new values have been added since Beta 4 and so just haven't had a chance to get into the Platform yet. They'll be there for the next release, though. 04:33:57 Just so I don't confuse myself, I'll update it when the next release hits. 05:10:59 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 05:39:05 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05:39:45 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 06:29:11 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 06:49:50 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 07:45:39 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 07:45:40 *** Gringoloco has quit (Changing host) 07:45:40 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 07:45:57 Hello all 07:46:40 ChrisMorgan: What do you think about the Opera lost profile folder 07:47:30 I think first that I'm just about to start making tea, hope you're still here in an hour or so. 07:47:39 Sounds like the same issue I came across when just having the folder open, 07:47:50 Neh, sorry no time 08:11:19 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 08:43:54 OK, back. Surprisingly close to one hour. 08:44:36 Gringoloco: clearly a handle still open on the folder; one report was of download being still open: moving the default download location would be a very good start. 08:46:21 So the profile's most likely being left in App\Opera? 08:54:28 Why don't we just test this and find out what exactly's happening? like, is the profile actually being deleted or just left behind? 08:54:46 Frankly, because we're busy doing other things and can't be bothered. 08:55:27 * taneth111 downloads Opera Portable to find out for himself 08:57:15 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09:09:20 hmmm... looks like it's that handle 09:10:54 What's the handle? 09:11:08 Does it remain open after opera.exe and OperaPortable.exe are closed? 09:22:08 hm? a handle? 09:22:32 Opera likes to hold open the theme zips after all windows close... 09:22:37 for some strange reason 09:25:44 * auscompgeek is finally downloading Geany Portable 09:46:52 ChrisMorgan: Yeah. I downloaded a 2mb exe and ran it, then closed Opera. Opera.exe and OperaPortable.exe die, but the other process stayed alive 09:47:41 Then afterwards I check App\Opera\profile and everything was gone, except for the one exe that I downloaded. Checked Data\profile too and the folder wasn't even there 09:47:54 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 09:47:54 *** Gringoloco has quit (Changing host) 09:47:54 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 09:49:28 So the executable gets downloaded to the profile directory? Subdirectory of the profile? 09:49:47 ChrisMorgan: I'll see if I can have a look at this, but this evening 09:50:06 Gringoloco: I think the firs tsolution for it is just to move the downloads directory out of the profile. 09:50:34 It sounds quite alike my findings, when I had the specific folder opened in explorer 09:50:59 Lost all of my WinampP settings :( 09:52:16 Probably you're right to move the download folder, but I wonder if PAL could be modified so this just can not happen. 09:53:04 It just seems to happen with rename. Not 100% sure thought 09:53:30 The problem is that there does not seem to be any nice way to detect it at all. 09:57:39 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10:09:03 I can't seem to find the 'temporary_downloads' setting, maybe doesn't exist 10:10:14 *** Mighty (~mighty@c-71-238-140-77.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 10:13:44 *** Mighty has quit (Client Quit) 10:16:46 have to reinstall OperaP, all folders just doubled in App & Data 10:16:47 :( 10:17:55 Ah just delete the profile folder :P 10:30:16 DirectoriesMove.nsh line 87: 10:30:24 RMDir /R $4 10:31:13 Arg, :e ~/vc/por/dev... no, wait, I meant ~/vc/portableapps/launcher, not ~/vc/portableapps/development-toolkit. I've been going to the latter too much recently :-) 10:31:54 *** taneth111 has quit (Quit: BYE.) 10:31:59 ChrisMorgan: I really thing this is something what needs to be fixed in PAL 10:32:44 Gringoloco: so the problem there is that if the Rename has failed, it deletes it anyway. But the problem with stopping that is that if the Rename fails, the directory will be lost just as much and the system messed up. 10:33:21 I know, probably need some days to think about an ideal solution... 10:34:06 ...maybe some alt. rename macro, if it fails it copies ? 10:41:49 I think catching it and telling the user to close things using it is about the only practical solution. 10:51:48 I'll keep on thinking about & playing with it, later on. And see what I can come up with 10:52:04 got to go now 10:52:17 OK, bye. 11:10:42 *** dboki89 (~user@unaffiliated/dboki) has joined #portableapps 11:59:30 *** awircser (~awircser@41.239.62.178) has joined #portableapps 12:18:40 *** iomox (~ios@180.191.88.31) has joined #portableapps 12:19:53 *** pa_6680 (7a3285c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.50.133.192) has joined #portableapps 12:20:09 hi 12:20:17 Hey pa_6680, can we help you with anything? 12:21:43 how to create own portable application using portable application launcher 12:22:11 Read through the manual and look at existing apps using it. 12:22:38 There's a list of apps using PAL and what they do at http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/examples/#apps-using-pal 12:26:30 *** pa_6680 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12:34:13 * ChrisMorgan got bitten by the AppCompactor bug where using it on a network drive gets into an infinite loop again 12:44:15 ChrisMorgan: Just my two cents, http://pastebin.com/6LxtY71u 12:44:22 *** iomox has quit (Quit: Leaving) 12:45:08 I'm having a look at telling the user 2 close things aswell... 12:45:59 The main problem with the first option is the problem of the size in MB of the folder to be moved 12:46:24 The problem with that is that it will get left where it was as well, which is OK (though obviously undesirable) the first time, but will break in an even worse way the second time. It's *got* to be cleared. 12:47:28 The second time it will (try) to back it up. All seems to work pretty much fine for OperaP 12:47:32 So I think RMDir should be put just into the CopyFiles variant, and the RMDir and Rename should be checked for success and told the user. 12:48:25 First time, App\Opera\profile gets left behind; second time, that gets moved to App\Opera\profile-BackupByOperaPortable and a new copy goes in App\Opera\profile; third time, it gets muddled as profile can't be moved to profile-BackupByOperaPortable. 12:50:46 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.163.24.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 12:51:55 So the user will loose some files, which already did get copied over to the data folder. I'm not really seeing the problem, atleast not for OperaP 12:53:06 But then the old and new versions of the profiles just start getting muddled. Profile entanglement. Confusion. Settings breaking. Probable corruption. 12:55:06 I done some quick testing, and all seems fine. Remember that all files will be copied back to Data on exit. Just the files which were locked will be left in the App\Opera folder 12:55:35 Yeah, then it gets backed up and restored in a muddle. 12:56:45 Muddle, you mean it will always stay in the App folder. Doesn't really harm thought 12:57:43 As I said, you get confusion between Data\profile, App\Opera\profile and App\Opera\profile-BackupByOperaPortable 12:57:44 It was just an idea, I'm looking in to producing an error message to the user aswell. But also isn't that ideal 12:57:55 I think the error message is the only really solid way of doing it. 12:58:59 I'm fine with the error messages. Just do not get where you see the confusion in the profile folders :? 13:00:15 To do with the CopyFiles policy of overwriting or not. In Opera it's possible that all the files will be there - in which case the data will remain in App\Opera\profile, and never end up back in Data\profile. 13:01:29 It's not doing that, it's keeping all the settings :P 13:02:11 - in App\Opera\profile. Get it into that muddled state, then change some settings and reinstall Opera Portable. You'll lose those latest settings as they were in App\Opera\profile. 13:02:41 The only 2 issues I'm seeing is when the specific folder is huge, and that potentially folders can be left on the local drive if this happens with other app which is already happening anyway 13:03:40 NO, it get stuck on rename, then happily copies the files to data\profile (on exit). No problem 13:05:23 Copies the files, but the directory already exists, doesn't it? 13:07:16 It could exist, yes. And you're saying it does not overide them ? 13:10:24 My recollection is that the default is not to override. SetOverwrite instruction or something like that to change it. 13:10:50 *** TASAIRES has quit (Quit: Saliendo) 13:14:01 from the manual 13:14:02 SetOverwrite 13:14:02 on|off|try|ifnewer|ifdiff|lastused 13:14:02 This command sets the overwrite flag which is used by the File 13:14:21 command to determine whether or not the file should overwrite any existing files that are present 13:14:42 4.8.2.8 SetOverwrite 13:15:09 Hmm, I thought it covered CopyFiles as well. Not sure what the regime is with CopyFiles then. 13:15:15 It only does not overide the specific file when it's locked 13:17:02 Well, I've got my figures for PyQt4 versus PySide now: 25/31MB through py2exe, then 8.1/9MB compressed. I think I'll use PyQt4 for the moment until PySide implements Python properties instead of getters and setters. 13:18:41 Actually probably more like 9.3MB, MSVCP90.dll didn't get included and it depends on that (PyQt4 doesn't) 13:18:45 *** awircser has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:29:17 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 13:35:40 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 13:44:34 *** BjornH has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:00:39 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.163.24.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 14:25:55 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 14:45:02 *** dbdii407 has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 14:56:29 *** awircser (~awircser@41.239.62.178) has joined #portableapps 15:13:03 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 15:16:17 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 15:16:21 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 15:21:45 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407-@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 15:21:45 dbdii407 is Dave, Owner of the ScrapIRC Network. 15:31:24 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 15:37:07 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 15:56:35 *** iomox (~ios@180.191.88.31) has joined #portableapps 16:00:49 *** ZachT|ZzZz is now known as ZachThibeau 16:16:03 *** awircser has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:24:40 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 16:27:33 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16:45:42 *** VOB (~Anonimo@190.42.47.20) has joined #portableapps 16:46:37 *** VOB has quit (Client Quit) 16:50:59 *** TASAIRES has quit (Quit: Saliendo) 17:06:40 *** guillerc (4f93ca38@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.147.202.56) has joined #portableapps 17:08:03 potable dreamweaver cs 3 hay su o no 17:09:23 contestar? 17:23:11 guillerc it's illegal to have :/ 17:23:42 *** guillerc has quit (Quit: Page closed) 17:24:12 shit i was about to get the name of the open source one though -_- 17:24:13 lol 17:33:07 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@173-86-68-179.bras0-epix.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) has joined #portableapps 17:33:07 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Changing host) 17:33:07 *** Oni-Neoxes (~Oni-Neoxe@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 17:44:20 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit) 17:51:58 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 18:12:14 *** iomox has quit (Quit: Leaving) 18:15:04 *** pa_0216 (83bbfd8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.187.253.138) has joined #portableapps 18:25:43 *** pa_0216 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 18:37:26 *** OliverK (~OliverK@76.10.197.37) has joined #portableapps 18:37:26 *** OliverK has quit (Changing host) 18:37:26 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 18:54:14 *** subg3nii (~hr___@static253-201.mimer.net) has joined #portableapps 19:04:16 Aai, 38.6 C, no wonder I feel a bit weird today :( 19:09:11 Gringoloco_ , now you, too? :( ...this fever must be spreading thorugh IRC... /jk Hope you get well soon! :) 19:09:26 yeah, thanx 19:15:05 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 19:20:36 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit) 19:24:29 *** subg3nii has quit (Quit: Leaving) 19:30:32 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: Leaving) 19:40:13 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@74-141-211-116.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 19:40:13 *** rcmaehl has quit (Changing host) 19:40:13 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 20:05:59 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.163.24.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 20:15:23 *** Zarggg (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #portableapps 20:20:38 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 20:22:26 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07DD7D.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 20:46:49 *** Gringoloco_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:03:08 *** TASAIRES has quit (Quit: Saliendo) 21:07:36 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 21:10:26 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 21:15:12 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 21:27:25 *** dboki89 has quit (Quit: Most things in life cost money... Be happy with the ones that don't!) 21:46:49 *** Theodore_ (458d98e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.141.152.224) has joined #portableapps 21:46:55 Hello 21:47:18 hi Theodore_, how can we help? 21:48:00 I am a mac user can i use your apps on my computer 21:49:04 well, the applications are designed for Windows. OS X uses a different format for binaries, so you won't be able to run it without some kind of emulating software, as wine or something 21:50:14 were Can i download wine 21:51:54 Theodore_: read this: http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX 21:52:36 there are also mac portable apps 21:52:44 they arent ours 21:52:51 but i use them sometimes 21:53:02 http://www.freesmug.org/portableapps 21:55:14 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:56:00 Um snything else tht can help me 21:56:47 check out these links, they have what you want 21:57:39 *** OliverK (~OliverK@76.10.197.37) has joined #portableapps 21:57:39 *** OliverK has quit (Changing host) 21:57:39 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 21:57:54 ok im dowloading wine to my flashdrive 21:58:17 Yeah i can play cubeshooter 21:58:38 in 3 minute something seconds 22:00:31 Anyone else need help i know my way around the website 22:14:24 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:22:44 *** Theodore_ has quit (Quit: Page closed) 22:40:55 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:51:16 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 23:20:16 *** agdurrette has quit (Quit: gota go) 23:26:07 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 23:38:38 *** Hypnotoad (~hypnotoad@mail.corryong.vic.edu.au) has joined #portableapps 23:38:59 *** Hypnotoad is now known as Guest68864 23:39:24 *** Guest68864 is now known as taneth111 23:45:34 *** taneth111 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:46:29 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 23:53:22 *** pa_7790 (bb76e656@gateway/web/freenode/ip.187.118.230.86) has joined #portableapps 23:53:33 help 23:54:07 i have downloaded the dreamweaver portable installed but it doens´t run 23:54:49 help 23:54:55 help help help 23:55:02 from Brazil 23:55:53 anyone?? 23:59:32 +gizmobot