00:00:11 help 00:00:42 *** pa_7790 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 00:31:35 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 00:31:40 Hola 00:31:53 howdy John 00:31:58 How goes it? 00:33:03 slowly, been taking a small break from deving in PChat, working on Chillplayer some trying to get some things fixed 00:33:35 RAM: Used: 2034/5119 MB (39% Load) 00:33:50 CPU Cores: 3 00:33:57 CPU Speed: 3.11 GHz 00:34:03 CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 B50 00:34:04 :D 00:34:06 ChrisMorgan: Have you seen this? http://portableapps.com/node/25510 00:34:12 oops wrong channel 00:34:17 *** agdurrette- (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:34:22 Ah how goes chillplayer? 00:34:44 JohnTHaller: yep, I was discussing it with Gringoloco yesterday. 00:35:07 alright, been trying to figure out why my compiled executable that was made by mingw isn't executing 00:35:14 Any thoughts on why it's happening or how to fix it? On exit do you do a rename and delete of moved folders? 00:36:20 brb - dinnertime 00:37:03 Mark's trying to get around it by falling back on CopyFiles, but I'm convinced that that won't cut it, getting things somewhat muddled between three copies of the profile (Data\profile, App\Opera\profile and App\Opera\profile-BackupByOperaPortable). Checking that it's succeeded and popping up an alert saying "please close all things using this directory" and trying again until it works is the only way I can see forwards. 00:37:07 *** agdurrette has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:37:34 *** agdurrette- is now known as agdurrette 00:45:46 * ChrisMorgan opened ~/vc/portableapps/development-toolkit rather than ~/vc/portableapps/launcher again... *sigh* 00:47:35 Why would there ever be App\Opera\profile-backupByOperaPortable? 00:48:02 After the first time, App\Opera\profile remains, so then it gets shifted to -Backup 00:48:15 Then the third time you run it it gets in a mess. 00:48:18 Standard non-PAL launchers will attempt to move the file back from App to Data on exit. If it fails, it doesn't do anything with it. And on next launch, it will use the one in App over the one in Data and delete the one in Data. 00:48:38 ... gotta sit back down and eat.. 00:48:40 How's this: LauncherDirectoryHandleOpen and LauncherFileHandleOpen; "To save your settings, $AppNamePortable needs to move $1, but the directory is currently in use. Please close any programs that may be using this directory." 00:50:20 The only custom ones I've seen moving to App just assumed it succeeded, and didn't copy back to Data at all, until possibly next time - and so in this sort of case, the settings would, I think, end up more or less remaining in App\Opera\profile permanently, until the installer was run again and all settings are as a result cleared. 00:51:11 The difference in this special case is that custom launchers wouldn't bother with the -BackupBy$AppID; I'm wondering whether, to help with this issue, the backup/restore code should be skipped if the target starts with %PAL:AppDir%\ 00:52:39 But no, I don't think it would really help, except if it *does* get left behind, in making it only two copies instead of three... the "please try again" will fix it properly. 00:54:39 who works on ChillPlayer? 00:54:48 I do 00:55:51 ZachThibeau: What else do you work on? pchat, the notepad thing 00:56:37 oh I lost count really, some of them are dead :/ 00:57:05 you have a page with everything on it? 00:57:11 not really 00:57:34 most of them were pretty much personal projects that got me into programming 00:57:38 nothing really special 01:13:49 Updated strings to "To save your settings, $AppNamePortable needs to move $4, but the file is currently in use.$\n$\nPlease close any programs that may be using this file and then press Retry." Using MB_RETRYCANCEL so they can cancel if they need to (then it's their fault) 01:14:56 Then there is just the one region left uncovered by this code; deleting the directory in Live mode. 01:15:28 *** LinkSlayer64 (~LS64Wii@c-71-233-56-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:15:41 *** LinkSlayer64 has quit (Client Quit) 01:41:20 *** rcmaehl has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01:46:13 *** pa_7669 (ae180d0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.24.13.12) has joined #portableapps 01:46:29 help 01:47:14 i can try to help 01:47:43 what do you need help with? 01:48:44 how do u install a new app when useing the portable app platform 01:50:08 all you should need to do is download an app from http://portableapps.com/apps and run it 01:50:26 pa_7669: in "Options" there's an item titled "Install an app" or something like that 01:50:35 yea 01:50:56 So you just use that. 01:51:38 but it tell me to pick a file do i have to install the app then add it or what 01:52:50 where did you save the file at? 01:54:24 the website 01:54:29 file = app sorry 01:55:12 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 01:55:18 Find the file that you've downloaded and select it. 01:55:28 ok 01:59:32 *** pa_7669 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 02:21:43 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:24:12 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 02:27:30 *** Feliks (~Felix@stgt-5f701775.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 02:30:46 *** Jake-GR-Laptop (~yes@164.47.161.254) has joined #portableapps 02:31:03 *** Jake-GR-Laptop has parted #portableapps (None) 02:31:23 *** Felix3 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02:35:02 *** rcmaehl has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02:47:32 *** agdurrette has quit (Quit: gota go) 02:51:59 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:04:53 *** agdurrette- (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:07:04 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 03:07:04 *** Gringoloco has quit (Changing host) 03:07:04 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 03:07:35 *** agdurrette has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03:07:42 *** agdurrette- is now known as agdurrette 03:18:35 *** agdurrette has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:29:33 *** pa_9731 (4a6f75a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.111.117.161) has joined #portableapps 03:29:50 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03:29:55 hello? 03:30:18 anyone online? 03:30:59 *** pa_9731 has quit (Client Quit) 03:55:55 back, sorry I left before ChrisMorgan 03:56:01 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 03:56:07 That's fine. I've been busy too :-) 04:01:36 How about we treat moves between app and data specially, skip the -backupby%APPNAME% for starters (so we don't wind up with multiple copies) 04:02:27 and, if the target (in App) exists, we skip the copy there (and delete what is in Data) but do the copy back on exit. 04:02:46 The problem is that if it fails to move back once, it's likely to always fail to move back. 04:03:34 I think warn-the-user-and-try-again is really the only practical solution which will take care of all cases. 04:03:37 But it's not. In Opera's case, it only fails if the user happened to open a downloaded file instead of saving it and then running it. 04:04:22 Oh, so it's when they do "open" rather than "save", and that puts it in the profile directory? What a strange choice of location. 04:04:42 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 04:04:48 Hmm... we could also, on exit... (1) attempt the rename back. (2) if it fails, do a CopyFiles on it (so all important stuff IS in data for backups and in case they upgrade so they don't lose it. 04:05:28 Then, on launch, we check to see if the target already exists in App. If it does, we delete it first and then rename Data in. 04:05:35 OK then, so if that's the case with Opera it could work with a slight caveat with moving, but still the general principle holds for most apps that getting the user to release handles is a much better solution. 04:05:43 That should handle just about every possible scenario 04:06:24 A user isn't gonna necessarily understand that prompt. There are only a couple apps this applies to. And if we can handle it without user intervention, we should. 04:06:36 I think my last suggestion would handle all scenarios, no? 04:07:08 I've got it with Retry/Cancel so that it doesn't entirely lock them up. That could be combined with the approach you're mentioning. 04:07:41 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.188.186) has joined #portableapps 04:07:52 I'd rather ditch the prompt entirely if we can. In this scenario, it'd be automated and there'd be no chance of data loss. 04:07:54 Running out of disk space when copying could also be a potential (though remote) issue 04:08:15 * ChrisMorgan can't remember whether CopyFiles overwrites or not, NSIS docs don't seem to indicate it at all 04:08:42 Standard Opera profile is only a few MBs 04:08:56 And this won't affect apps with big profiles like Firefox, etc which require no moving. 04:11:29 * JohnTHaller can't find any documentation on it 04:17:47 It's SHFileOperation with FO_COPY but I can't seem to find any statement of whether that overwrites or not... 04:22:46 I think there is a flag to set on the struct at some point 04:22:57 NSIS source code is hard to sift through when not very familiar with C/C++ code 04:23:17 I presume /SILENT is FOF_SILENT, but that's not FOF_NOCONFIRMATION, which is what would make it overwrite. 04:23:29 Shock horror - may need to /try/ it to see what it does! :P 04:23:40 But first I'm going to have lunch. 04:23:54 and I'm gonna go to bed. 04:24:03 Please drop me a note with what you figure out. 04:24:18 as soon as you have a fix, I'm gonna rev 2 it 04:25:06 I'll see what I can do with it for PAL 2.1. 04:25:31 I may do a custom patch on PAL 2.0 just for Opera. It's a big app, and a dataloss bug is a pretty big deal. 04:26:34 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 04:26:50 Wait for 2.1, I think - I was going to suggest releasing it tomorrow or the day after or some time soon, and so long as we test this thoroughly I reckon we can go ahead and release it. 04:27:16 I think I'll be able to leave the message box out when it's in App. 04:27:46 Good. Then we don't need to translate or bug the user. 04:29:01 Alright. Drop me a note if you figure anything out for now. I'll release the next Opera alpha with PAL 2.0 for now. As soon as we have a fix, I'll Rev em 04:29:25 For on a different volume, though, maybe it should be kept in - so that the local thing can be deleted. 04:29:49 And really, I think on the same volume, you can be fairly confident it's safe to leave in the "wrong place". 04:30:29 What can be kept for on a different volume? 04:31:31 Not sure what you meant by that 04:31:59 It does CopyFiles and RMDir/Delete when on a different volume - the RMDir/Delete will fail in this case. 04:32:34 And so it'll get left behind, and when it's on a different volume it's /not/ safe to use it, it must be backed up. So it becomes a problem. 04:34:01 "For on a different volume, though, maybe it should be kept in - so that the local thing can be deleted." I didn't know what that referred to 04:36:31 [DirectoriesMove] foo=%APPDATA%\foo - but then a file is still open in %APPDATA%\foo so it can't be deleted and gets left behind (and so the backup system breaks. 04:36:32 ) 04:38:57 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 04:42:49 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 05:01:46 ChrisMorgan: Ah right. That makes sense. 05:01:50 Alright, bed for me. 05:01:52 Gnight all 05:01:54 G'nite 05:01:59 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 05:18:28 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Opera Web Browser! 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 07:57:46 oh noes he repeated it 07:59:52 *** markomlm has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]) 08:18:06 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 08:40:45 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08:56:06 *** dodgyballz (~dodgyball@74.9.197.130) has joined #portableapps 08:56:13 *** dodgyballz has parted #portableapps (None) 09:07:28 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 09:11:12 palogbot: url 09:11:16 palogbot: uri 09:11:16 http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/logs?t=2010-11-16#T09-11-16 09:36:31 ChrisMorgan: would you mind to quickly give me an overview about the opera profile problem? 09:37:17 sar3th: if you Open a file rather than Saving, Opera stores it in the profile directory, App\Opera\profile, which needs to be moved back to Data\profile. 09:37:50 yes. what is your current approach on handling the userprofile? 09:49:45 A [DirectoriesMove] line, profile=%PAL:AppDir%\Opera\profile. 09:49:58 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 09:49:58 *** Gringoloco has quit (Changing host) 09:49:58 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 09:50:00 *** pa_0181 (555a542a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.90.84.42) has joined #portableapps 09:50:26 hey guys, my portable apps don't work in windows 7 anymore? what can i do? 09:50:52 pa_0181: what apps? And what's changed? 09:51:27 every app, now im trying it on win XP and everythings works. just all apps dont start up 09:52:28 Have you changed the disk that it's on? 09:53:31 no, however i did change from pa-Suite to pa-Platform... but i compressed the disk first 09:54:03 So it's formatted as NTFS? 09:54:16 let me check it.. 09:54:33 its FAT 09:54:41 Then how did you compress the disk? 09:55:07 just with windows compress sirvice, thats automatic with my pc 09:57:17 *** pa_0181 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 09:59:21 for the records, the windows compression service works on file-system level, meaning it shouldn't interfere with anything for the end-user and his programs 10:00:11 I'm not familiar with it at all. I know NTFS has the compression stuff, but FAT? 10:00:28 not that i know of 10:00:41 i was refering to the ntfs version of the compression service 10:02:04 i have to leave now for a lecture, i'll be back later 10:08:22 Slowly, I'm starting to feel a bit better :), I'm even having a look at GoogleChromeP 10:09:25 *** taneth111 (~TaffinFox@CPE-121-217-34-158.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps 10:23:18 the Chrome launcher is using KillProc::FindProcesses instead of CreateMutex() 10:23:57 and a direct call to regedit.exe 10:36:31 Hmmm 10:36:59 KillProc doesn't currently have a unicode version. going to have to test the password plug-in in IronP instead 10:41:16 Atleast IronP has got a regular launcher source 10:43:11 * Gringoloco doesn't understand why to reinvent the wheel while regular custom launchers proven their selfs 10:45:50 Aai, there isn't even a source for the KillProc plug-in 11:02:51 Gringoloco: it's just the Portable Passwords plugin which needs to be Unicode - the rest will port quite nicely to PAL. 11:05:21 I've got to test it thought... 11:06:06 ...spending half my time to finding out what the plug-in is actually supposed to do :( 11:08:35 There was some typos in the script I send to computerfreaker, I'm almost sure that's the reason it didn't work for him 11:12:27 *** dboki89 (~user@unaffiliated/dboki) has joined #portableapps 11:25:47 It's definitly not my day. Maybe I should have stayed in bed 11:27:38 ChrisMorgan: Can you confirm that the 2 plug-ins from IronP & ChromeP are one and the same thing? 11:27:53 No, I can't. I don't have any of it with me. 11:28:29 sizes are different, I really wonder why computerfreaker recompiled it 11:30:29 I'm not sure why he did. Different path, perhaps? 11:32:56 Perhaps 11:33:01 How big is the difference? 11:38:30 The source I got just shows that he tried to recompile it for unicode, but mind you he didn't succeed and asked for help. So I'm not sure if the source belongs to the release 11:38:53 taneth111: do you have any experience with ChromP or IronP ? 11:39:17 Nah, don't use anything in the way of portable browsers 11:39:43 If he only changed a path or something the difference would be a few kb at the most 11:39:58 Was he missing a library or something? 11:41:04 Dan used MSVC 2010 and computerfreaker was trying in MinGW 11:42:21 I'm still 99% sure it doesn't need to be recompiled. And actually I would want to, it's not a standard nsis plug-in 11:42:42 Ah, that's probably it. I've only had it work for basic programs, nothing too complicated 11:42:49 Standards my left speaker 11:43:03 * taneth111 scoffs at the notion of standards. 11:43:26 How's it actually work? I'm pretty in the dark when it comes to GChrome and this plugin 11:43:56 taneth111: only had IT workfor basic programs ??? What you mean by IT ? 11:44:34 So am I, I still didn't even find out what the plug-in really does :? 11:44:35 I only had using different compilers work for basic things, like a square app. it compiled on both compilers 11:44:56 However, things like LBreakout2 didn't 11:45:31 Hey Gringoloco, do you know how often Pyromaniac frequents IRC? 11:46:06 regularly, but in waves ! Why? 11:46:35 I need to talk to him about MPC-HC Portable 11:47:24 taneth111: I haven't seen Pyromaniac in here in ages... 11:48:01 s/ages/last few weeks :p 11:49:04 :P 11:49:15 *** bitwave (~bitwave@p54BE4320.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 11:49:18 Hmmmm... on wave.google.com? 11:50:35 *** bitwave has parted #portableapps (None) 11:51:22 um... I have his email address, but am unsure if he would mind me giving it to you... 11:51:58 I've totally disabled the password plug-in calls, recompiled, and run on different user acounts and different computers, it still keeps all my passwords. So I'm officially lost now. I do not have a clue what purpose the plug-in serves or how to test it :( 11:55:01 did chrome store the passwords in plaintext or something? 11:55:59 Hang on a sec, on the Chrome Portable page: 11:56:01 "Passwords Not Saved Between PCs By Default: Google Chrome stores passwords in such a way that they are encrypted in a way tied to current PC. While the passwords are not kept or left behind on the PC itself, they won't be retrievable when you move to a new PC. We've added password portability as an advanced option, though, which you can enable by reading the help.html file." 11:56:05 I 11:56:15 in SQLite format 3 11:56:34 It uses (or used) the user RSA encryption method. 11:56:46 That may have changed, though. 11:57:08 *** GMBudwrench (~Ronnie@209.192.107.38) has joined #portableapps 11:57:20 I've read that, but it seems to keep all my passwords even when the plug-in calls are commented out 11:57:26 *** GMBudwrench has parted #portableapps (None) 11:58:00 I can't remember how it was done formerly - was it encrypted per password or was the sqlite file as a whole encrypted? 11:58:37 one sec 12:00:10 Nah, encrypts per password 12:00:15 http://www.switchonthecode.com/tutorials/how-google-chrome-stores-passwords 12:00:26 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 12:00:32 I believe something like by password 12:01:25 Mind you, I'm currently testing on IronP, I will try the same tests on ChromeP, before to give up 12:03:14 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12:06:35 *** Gringoloco__ (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 12:09:57 *** Gringoloco_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12:10:13 *** tuttincoro (~Babel@41.177.72.80) has joined #portableapps 12:10:19 ji 12:10:21 hi 12:11:22 Gringoloco__: and looking at the current Chromium source, it's still got that code in, so I think it should be encrypting. 12:14:27 My issue is, I do not see how I can test the plug-in since I'm not sure what purpose it serves. Aswell ChromeP keeps my passwords on a different computer 12:20:14 *** tuttincoro has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12:20:49 Aai, we never asked what tuttincoro needed :( 12:22:21 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 12:22:41 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 12:24:59 *** taneth111 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12:25:43 *** Gringoloco__ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 12:33:36 *** Gringoloco__ (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 12:34:10 *** awircser (~awircser@41.237.46.144) has joined #portableapps 12:36:42 *** Gringoloco_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12:39:50 *** neo_ (~neo@116.71.180.236) has joined #portableapps 12:40:03 *** dboki89 has quit (Quit: Most things in life cost money... Be happy with the ones that don't!) 12:43:28 * Gringoloco__ slowly getting the hang of it :) 12:48:49 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 12:51:54 *** Gringoloco__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12:56:28 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 12:58:44 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13:00:52 *** neo_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:02:26 *** maxpert (~maxpert@116.71.180.236) has joined #portableapps 13:16:02 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 13:23:45 *** maxpert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:58:00 *** maxpert (~maxpert@119.152.72.44) has joined #portableapps 13:58:03 *** pa_8249 (c1e08faf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.224.143.175) has joined #portableapps 13:58:06 hi all 13:58:10 i have question 13:58:25 why not support BlueFish? It has Windows' port 13:59:26 http://sourceforge.net/projects/bluefish/ - this is the site, where you could download the windows' port 13:59:33 thanks! you are the best! :-) 13:59:40 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14:00:54 *** maxpert has parted #portableapps (None) 14:03:59 *** pa_8249 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14:37:47 *** awircser has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:47:38 *** ios_ (~ios@180.191.130.169) has joined #portableapps 14:50:13 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@173-86-68-179.bras0-epix.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) has joined #portableapps 14:50:13 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Changing host) 14:50:13 *** Oni-Neoxes (Oni-Neoxes@unaffiliated/oni-neoxes) has joined #portableapps 15:01:27 *** Oni-Neoxes has quit (Quit: Quit) 15:07:56 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407-@unaffiliated/dbdii407) has joined #portableapps 15:07:56 dbdii407 is Dave, Owner of the ScrapIRC Network. 15:09:15 *** pa_5623 (5face6c6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.172.230.198) has joined #portableapps 15:10:09 *** pa_5623 has quit (Client Quit) 15:55:18 *** ios_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:29:38 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 16:38:05 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 16:42:03 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.163.24.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 16:45:00 *** TASAIRES has quit (Client Quit) 16:50:05 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07EF95.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 16:54:06 *** Viv_K (~Vivian@69.171.160.116) has joined #portableapps 16:55:17 *** Viv_K has parted #portableapps (None) 17:21:41 *** Hecht (~hecht@189.7.81.33) has joined #portableapps 17:21:48 *** Hecht has parted #portableapps (None) 17:37:10 *** Ditti4 (4fd7612a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.215.97.42) has joined #portableapps 17:37:15 Hi all, anyone here? 17:37:44 *** Ditti4 has parted #portableapps (None) 17:38:38 *** Ditti4 (4fd7612a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.215.97.42) has joined #portableapps 17:38:46 Hello? Anyone here? 17:39:00 Can someone help me? 17:39:03 Please? 17:39:36 HEEELLLOOO??? 17:39:41 Ditti4, probably you should just ask your question, otherwise nobody will know what you want 17:40:03 Okay, sorry... I´m new here... 17:40:29 Okay, i wanna know: can I share a Portable App on the site? 17:41:23 do you mean contributing an app to portableapps.com or hosting an app somewhere else? 17:41:53 contributing... would be nice to know... 17:42:47 then you should present the application here: http://portableapps.com/forums/development/beta_testing 17:43:12 best is to follow this http://portableapps.com/node/11965 17:44:05 of course your app should comply the PAc specifiction, see here http://portableapps.com/development 17:44:08 okay, thanks man! this helped me :* xD 17:44:44 though your app doesn't need to be perfect to post it there, people will help you to improve it 17:46:33 okay, thanks... i´m uploading right now an will post it then... it would be nice if you test it, too! 17:52:38 okay, it´s posted now... 17:55:35 BB, see you later... 17:55:39 Have fun! 17:55:41 Ditti4, you should change the topic 17:55:44 xD 17:56:34 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 17:56:34 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 17:58:04 perfect... changed it... thanks for the idea... 18:00:54 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 18:00:54 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 18:10:42 okay, everybody... i go offline... thx for the help, benedikt93! :) 18:14:26 *** Gringoloco_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18:15:19 *** Ditti4 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18:15:48 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 18:15:48 *** Gringoloco has quit (Changing host) 18:15:48 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 18:20:26 *** agdurrette has quit (Quit: Leaving) 18:21:05 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 18:41:41 *** agdurrette has quit (Quit: Leaving) 18:42:34 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:11:27 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@pD9557207.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 19:15:15 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:22:21 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:23:59 *** Simeon (~simeon@dslb-094-216-100-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 19:24:10 hi all 19:24:36 too bad John isnt here 19:26:49 Simeon: I've just send him a comment in the forum, asking him to come to irc 19:28:11 so maybe you'll have a chance if you stick around for a bit 19:29:48 Ill try :) 19:30:07 I have an app release in the pipeline for him 19:48:05 *** ILOVEPIE (~ILOVEPIE@209.66.200.45) has joined #portableapps 19:48:48 *** ILOVEPIE has parted #portableapps (None) 19:50:08 *** dboki89 (~user@unaffiliated/dboki) has joined #portableapps 19:55:30 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 19:57:49 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 20:11:02 *** agdurrette- (~agdurrett@c-71-62-20-32.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:11:49 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.163.24.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 20:14:33 *** agdurrette- has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:14:34 *** Gringoloco_ (~Gringoloc@91.92.152.140) has joined #portableapps 20:16:17 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:16:53 *** Gringoloco has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20:20:42 *** TASAIRES has quit (Quit: Saliendo) 20:28:16 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 20:29:31 *** Gringoloco_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20:43:47 Bad connection Gringoloco? 20:44:10 sorry,as useally 20:44:57 no need to be - I never noticed it before 21:25:56 *** Stuff (stuff@12.198.157.242) has joined #portableapps 21:26:17 have to sleep, chiau 21:26:18 *** Stuff has parted #portableapps (None) 21:26:21 *** Gringoloco has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:30:26 me too 21:30:31 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 21:33:18 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 21:40:18 *** dboki89 has quit (Quit: Most things in life cost money... Be happy with the ones that don't!) 22:11:25 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 22:14:10 *** markomlm has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 23:00:53 *** Viv_K (~Vivian@69.171.160.119) has joined #portableapps 23:02:01 *** Viv_K has parted #portableapps (None) 23:03:25 Data Crow has made it to #24 in the SF update... I should update it to the just-released 3.9. 23:27:31 *** Blint (~Michelle@unaffiliated/michkat) has joined #portableapps 23:27:51 *** Blint has parted #portableapps (None) 23:41:53 *** Gringoloco (~Gringoloc@unaffiliated/gringoloco) has joined #portableapps 23:43:01 Wow. We need http://osqa.net/ 23:47:09 Gringoloco: what you've implemented is what John and I decided was the approach we'd need to take, except it blocks the normal model. CopyFiles does overwrite? 23:49:08 Yes it does overwrite, I've been trying to tell you that all along. How would you think it works when on different volume the launcher copies back to Data folder. I actually tested it with a script when I was trying to convince you. 23:49:27 That was the only bit I wasn't sure about. 23:49:45 For a different volume, this method won't work, but for same volume it's OK. 23:50:08 Really, I thought I had you convinced. But you are just as Stubborn as me ;) 23:51:44 """Here's your login info (store it in a cool dry place): 23:51:45 Username: Chris Morgan 23:51:45 Password: As IF we would send your password in cleartext!""" 23:51:55 I like it. OSQA FTW :D 23:51:59 on different volume you could concider the /REBOOTOK flag. so any locked files left behind will be deleted on next boot 23:52:52 On a different volume, we're going to need to ask the user to stop using it so it can be deleted. Then if they press Cancel instead of Retry, /then/ we use /REBOOTOK instead. 23:53:23 that's what I was thinking :) 23:58:26 don't you think it's good idea to fix operap with custumcode. So it's fixed quicker and you have more time to fix the issue properly