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It does a surprising number of things. 01:04:32 Good thing there was the trailing . or else Python 2 would have said 1 instead of 1.1904761904761905 01:12:59 ALright... dinner... back in a bit... 01:13:04 *** JohnTHaller is now known as JohnTHaller|away 01:14:28 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 01:22:16 *** OliverK (~OliverK@static-173-53-185-59.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 01:22:19 OliverK is a developer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with the commandline 01:22:42 *** OliverK is now known as Guest7806 01:22:53 *** Guest7806 is now known as WifiWombat 01:23:00 *** WifiWombat has quit (Changing host) 01:23:00 *** WifiWombat (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 01:23:01 WifiWombat is OliverK when he's surfing on the wifi 01:35:09 *** Zarggg_ has quit (Quit: Zarggg_) 01:49:55 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 01:53:39 *** JohnTHaller|away has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02:17:23 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 02:47:31 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03:05:33 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:08:11 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-67-247-35-38.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:09:55 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03:10:35 *** Kyle_ (~Kyle@69.182.79.239) has joined #portableapps 03:10:45 *** Kyle_ is now known as SrgSiler|AFK 03:10:50 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Changing host) 03:10:50 *** SrgSiler|AFK (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 03:15:00 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 03:27:05 *** StatBot (~StatBot@c-71-232-181-119.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 03:27:05 *** StatBot has quit (Changing host) 03:27:05 *** StatBot (~StatBot@unaffiliated/bensawsome/bots/bensbots) has joined #portableapps 03:37:20 *** Johnny_McKenzie (~Johnny_Mc@host81-147-20-11.range81-147.btcentralplus.com) has joined #portableapps 03:37:27 *** Johnny_McKenzie has parted #portableapps (None) 03:41:22 *** WifiWombat is now known as OliverK 03:42:02 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 03:48:52 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 04:58:22 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 06:13:54 *** mark1055 (~Mark@222-154-68-230.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) has joined #portableapps 06:16:17 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 06:18:01 *** OliverK has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 06:22:15 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 06:22:47 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 06:42:46 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Quit: Opera Web Browser! 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Nevermind :) 19:57:47 trademark permission, heh 19:58:19 Sorry if I missed this on the forums, but are we still supporting OpenOffice.org after LibreOffice is official? 19:58:39 We will most likely do both. 19:58:53 OO.o will remain popular for some time I'd wager 19:59:11 OO.o may become LO eventually.. or vice versa. 19:59:20 Marko's build env can now handle both. 19:59:30 :) 19:59:53 I can't imagine OpenOffice.org lasting very long though, it barely has any developers left. 20:00:37 The most contributions to OO.o are made by Oracle-employed developers if I recall correctly. 20:00:41 So while some very public exits have been made in the volunteer communities, it isn't like the developers are all gone. 20:02:49 gluxon: sorry to barge in, but as far as OOo and LibreOffice go, I believe it was said that majority of those who left OO.o were documentation staff, translators, testers... Most of the developers remain in OO.o 20:03:24 I thought Oracle asked all TDF contributors to leave? 20:03:52 Ironic that Oracle owns both "Oracle Open Office" and "OpenOffice.org". 20:03:57 That sounds about right from what I've heard. Part of that is the fact that OO.o hasn't been as good about accepting outside contributions as they should. That's why Go-OO was formed by Novell. 20:04:02 I know Oracle asked them to leave the council, but don't remember them asking the same overall... 20:06:36 At the end of October 2010 33 developers left OpenOffice.org and moved to The Document Foundation to work on LibreOffice. - Wikipedia 20:07:14 Inlcuding Marko 20:07:16 Hm.. not sure if the 33 developers count translators, and that other stuff. 20:07:35 Go Marko :D 20:11:37 JohnTHaller: Are we allowed to do launchers in C++? :D 20:13:44 gluxon: this is the log from OO.o IRC meeting, prior to those TDF members leaving, in which they only asked TDF members to leave their OO.org Community *Council*. Have you read in any another place they asked *all* TDF members to leave the community (vs to leave the community council)? --> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council_Log_20101014 20:14:10 and these 33 "developers"... well, here's the original list of them --> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@native-lang.openoffice.org/msg04865.html 20:14:30 most are translators, documentation folks and similar. only a few are developers 20:14:42 gluxon: As much fun as it would be, I think C++ launchers would be rough maintenance-wise. 20:15:51 gluxon, I'm not trying to rain on your parade, I would very much like Libre to surpass OO.o in any way, and I'm very glad that they gained financial support from many sources, but most of the information people put out there are invalid... 20:16:03 Can I try it and see how it goes? 20:16:09 dboki89: Thanks :) 20:16:18 you're welcome :) 20:18:52 So.. the TDF developers were afraid Oracle would shut down OpenOffice.org, and left, but when they left, Oracle kept OpenOffice.org going? O_O 20:19:07 *** KTHULU (~KTHULU@tn-76-7-130-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #portableapps 20:19:36 *** KTHULU has parted #portableapps (None) 20:19:53 dboki89: Sweet, Mark Moeller is first on the name list! :D 20:20:15 ahaha, just noticed it now :) that's cool 20:22:00 on the bright side, IIRC, Go-OO developers have merged with LibreOffice team, so Libre has more developers than just those initial ones :) 20:24:07 Heh :P 20:25:24 *** Tomwi (~Tom@j4047.upc-j.chello.nl) has joined #portableapps 21:00:41 *** kracker[BDC] has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21:05:16 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a79-169-161-86.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 21:20:07 *** Tomwi has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:21:45 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 21:41:03 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 21:43:24 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:45:11 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 21:48:46 .twitter geanyportable 21:48:47 geanyportable: What's this? An update? Sadly, its true. I found some bugs in the launcher, but they are fixed now: http://geanyportable.org/ -- http://twitter.com/geanyportable/status/7550979448766464 22:03:49 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 22:08:45 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@142.167.155.169) has joined #portableapps 22:08:45 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Changing host) 22:08:45 *** ZachThibeau (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 22:08:46 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 22:08:53 ... 22:40:14 *** Guest800 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:03:03 *** z3uS has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23:11:35 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 23:30:24 Hey, you guys like jPortable or JPortable better as the new name for Java Portable? 23:34:53 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 23:35:00 hi chris 23:35:33 *** awircser (~awircser@41.238.215.129) has joined #portableapps 23:36:04 JohnTHaller: jPortable 23:36:31 JPortable 23:36:39 jPortable look too much like an Apple name... 23:36:44 here it is lowercase: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/java_portable 23:37:51 JohnTHaller: if you do a revision on a package, what do you increment in the appinfo.ini? 23:38:03 *** awircser has quit (Client Quit) 23:49:03 If the app uses 1, 2 or 3 numbers in the version, we increment the 4th digit. 23:50:53 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 23:50:56 *** z3uS has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:53:05 *** MaienM is now known as MaienM|Sleep 23:59:50 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Bye everybody)