00:04:10 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 00:05:33 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 00:11:13 *** Mercury044 (~Brent_War@adsl-99-181-112-9.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #portableapps 00:20:01 *** amdzero_ (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 00:20:43 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:23:52 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 00:24:56 ChrisMorgan, Wormux Portable now has XML support (not released yet though). They change its name to WarMUX, but they haven't made a new release under that name yet. Should I keep it as Wormux still for now? 00:25:19 ... why did they change it? 00:25:41 I reckon that you should use the name of the version you're releasing. 00:26:14 "While this may seem mostly useless and troublesome, this was decided among the active members and the creator of the project so as to move forward. We will gradually change everything to fit this new name, so please bear with us while we finish with that transition." 00:26:48 It's now an acronym of "WAR of Mascots from UniX!" 00:27:32 howdy Scriptdaemon 00:27:39 'Ello ZachThibeau 00:27:52 who do i tell about a OO.o portable problem? 00:28:35 *** amdzero_ is now known as amdzero 00:29:14 :-/ 00:29:35 Personally I like the old name better too. 00:29:48 opps sorry thought you were done 00:29:52 It's not an acronym. 00:30:16 Mercury044: in IRC you don't tend to bother about such things. You just say what you want to say (and specify what you mean by a problem) 00:30:28 Close enough. 00:30:52 I suppose they're trying to get away from the fact it's a Worms clone. 00:35:22 :D 00:35:36 Ty. 00:36:07 I've forgotten how big Wormux is. 00:37:15 And now that I finally have this done, I can get back to the write-up of it for PAL. 00:37:52 *** pa_2940 (3b6f121e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.111.18.30) has joined #portableapps 00:38:18 My Problem in OpenOffice.org is that in inserting a formula into a spreadsheet i noticed that square root symbol is not loading in the portable version unless OO.o is installed on the machine i am on 00:40:11 Hi, When I download aMSNportable , my virtus protect software told me it contains one troj virus 00:40:38 please check it 00:40:40 pa_2940, that's a false positive. You can safely ignore it. 00:40:41 Mercury044: with the current release you've got to change a fonts path to get those symbols working, search the forums 00:41:05 opps sorry 00:41:56 *** pa_2940 has quit (Client Quit) 00:48:09 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Bye) 00:50:24 Oh, I've just noticed. ChrisMorgan, all the breadcrumb navigation for the security apps still lead to the utilities category. 00:53:37 As do their paths. 00:55:31 Fixed the book outline, but not the paths as that would break the old paths without redirects. 00:58:12 And Geany's breadcrumb navigation is incomplete. 01:02:56 Fixed. 01:08:01 *** Zarggg_ (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #portableapps 01:10:50 *** TimClark has parted #portableapps (None) 01:11:37 Going through the rest I found two more inconsistencies; KVIrc and Google Chrome were the wrong way round and Console was not in the book outline. 01:11:44 *** diib has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 01:11:59 *** Zarggg has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01:15:56 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407-@aura.devnetonline.net) has joined #portableapps 01:16:00 dbdii407 is Dave, Owner of the ScrapIRC Network. 01:16:03 *** dbdii407 is now known as Guest69563 01:29:56 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 01:31:22 *** saw007 (~saw007@c-71-192-23-31.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:41:55 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01:50:26 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 01:59:53 *** amdzero (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 02:08:07 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 02:11:50 *** dboki89 (~user@unaffiliated/dboki) has joined #portableapps 02:12:18 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 02:15:42 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-68-173-251-34.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 02:15:58 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 02:16:51 evening Johm 02:16:57 howdy 02:17:06 john even dang someone move the N 02:18:00 ty for Ice Breaker btw was a surprise to me 02:18:18 Sure thing. Thanks for putting it together 02:18:23 Hope you like the new icon/logo 02:18:23 hey John 02:18:44 hi ZachThibeau 02:18:51 yup looks great 02:20:27 funny out of all my apps that one was not expected Zaz or rednotebook were my thoughts lol 02:20:45 gonna do rednotebook shortly. haven't tried zaz\ 02:21:44 I guess you were busy? 02:22:01 *** OliverK|Away (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 02:22:03 busy day, yeah. on the phone most of it trying to get my internet and phone working right 02:22:15 I may disappear randomly from IRC btw 02:22:30 no worries 02:22:33 sucks 02:22:38 howdy folks 02:22:38 take your time 02:22:43 *** OliverK|Away is now known as OliverK 02:22:50 Love paying $100 a month for internet and getting 50% packet loss :( 02:23:04 * OliverK calculates that as you paying 35.45 02:23:11 :( 02:23:12 ok well you may want to hold on for rednotebook I am updating to 1.1 and there is a beta 1.2 out 02:23:37 update for 1.1 and we'll push that one through. dunno how long the beta will be. 02:23:52 ok well should be done by tomorrow 02:24:02 will post it up 02:24:23 ZachThibeau: There are seriously a lot of plugin packs for PChat. Do they really need to be that many add ons for an IRC client? 02:24:35 btw both programs home pages link back to PA site 02:24:51 rednotebook does? 02:24:56 well the 3 scripting plugins are the ones most users will probably use 02:25:18 ZachThibeau: You also provided me two different 1.4 finals. one 1.4.0 and one 1.4 in two different locations 02:25:20 xtray is included by default the other optional one was just uploaded doesn't really need to be included 02:25:36 hm? 02:25:47 I don't recall 02:26:13 yes it does john 02:26:16 FIrst email you sent had a direct link to one called PChatPortable_1.4.0.paf.exe. 2nd email you sent was a lijnk to the portable directory with all the plugins and there is a PChatPortable_1.4.paf.exe there as well 02:26:19 *** saw007 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:26:29 the one with the plugins is the one you want 02:26:33 vf2nsr: cool. we should get that out. anytime a publisher is supporting us, it's important we support them. 02:27:21 ie the one in the last email I sent you 02:27:28 Ok 02:28:16 Is the scripting plugin pack all of em together? 02:28:25 http://rednotebook.sourceforge.net/downloads.html take a look 02:28:26 the 1.4 just includes xtray plugin and yeah 02:28:36 vf2nsr: yeah, saw it. That's cool. 02:28:50 I uploaded that one too just in case you wanted 1 package or 3 seperate ones 02:28:51 been there since I started it 02:28:59 ZachThibeau: do you want to do em individually or all together? and does the installer make sure they are preserved on upgrades? 02:29:27 It's youre call really, ZachThibeau. You know the users and what would make more sense for them. 3 separate or 1 big one. 02:30:10 it should keep the settings, and I think the 3 different plugin packs maybe best 02:30:17 vf2nsr: How close was 1.0 to being stable? Think we could put together a quick 1.1.1 package and release it? 02:30:32 ok will getback to work on it as there were some changes made for me for portability 02:30:48 Oh ok, vf2nsr. In that case don't rush it. 02:30:49 1 was stable 1,1 just needs me to make a change or 2 02:31:06 Better to have it right than quick. Want to ensure that users get the best first experience with it. 02:31:06 justneed to reconfig a file 02:31:41 Ok, ZachThibeau. So that's Lura, Perl, Python, TCL and then Optional. 5 plugins. 02:31:41 ok but the latest Zaz you might want to look at it stable and also has the authors site pointing back to pa 02:32:04 optional could be left out 02:32:22 sure? 02:32:33 if people want them I can point them to my website 02:32:58 ok bbl back to work 02:33:07 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 02:36:40 we should let the zaz devs know they're linking to an illegal site for the other portable version :( have to tell vf2nsr when he gets back 02:39:30 :( 02:46:26 gotta reboo 02:46:29 treboot* 02:46:34 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 02:49:29 *** rcmaehl has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 02:55:09 JohnTHaller: All the apps in http://portableapps.com/apps/security need their paths updating to apps/security/* (keeping apps/utilities/* as an alias for compatibility, of course) 02:56:01 Yeah, I know. Just gonna leave that til the directory ipdate 02:56:04 update 02:58:48 *** OliverK (~WifiWomba@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps 02:58:49 OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with. 03:05:09 ZachThibeau: So which icon is enabled by default now xtray or gtk? 03:05:15 and do they both work now? 03:05:32 they both work but by default xtray will be used 03:08:26 ZachThibeau: Look ok? http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/pchat_portable 03:08:48 *** Mercury044 has parted #portableapps (None) 03:09:24 looking good and screenshot could be changed since the userlist now contains new icons 03:09:34 have a new one for me at 800x600 03:09:36 ? 03:10:20 I will in a moment 03:10:38 I thought you already took one for the main PChat site 03:10:50 that wasn't for the PChat site 03:12:04 http://pchat-irc.com/images/pchat.png 03:12:16 always 599px 03:12:31 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:12:46 shoot off by 1 pixel :x 03:12:58 Don't worry. I tweaked it 03:13:01 kk 03:14:14 ok reload 03:15:01 awesome :) 03:16:07 Ok, it's out. http://portableapps.com/news/2010-12-15_-_pchat_portable_1.4 and in the updater, too 03:16:46 and spelled python wrong... fixed 03:16:47 JohnTHaller: new geany as well. I have a proper RSS feed now. http://geanyportable.org/blog/?p=12 03:17:13 cool. just subscribed 03:17:39 just a plain jane wordpress blog but, it works :) 03:22:21 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:23:18 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-68-173-251-34.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:24:28 Ok, Geany is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2010-12-15_-_geany_portable_0.19.2 03:24:40 sweet, thanks JohnTHaller 03:24:48 sure thing 03:26:10 well I need to get on my redesign for PChat-IRC.com and try and renew my ip.board license since I want to move from phpBB 03:29:00 Think I'm going with Zaz for tonight. Solid game 03:29:58 Yeah, it's a good game. 03:30:52 I'm touching up the icons for it, though. 03:32:53 "Description=Zaz is a game where the player has to get rid of incoming balls by arranging them in triplets. The idea of the game is loosely based on games like Luxor, Zuma and Puzzle Bobble." That'd be better as one shorter sentence which makes more sense. 03:33:18 Homepage and Start use Zazportable, should be ZazPortable 03:33:24 * OliverK thinks that would be a good game if he didn't play minecraft 03:36:29 JohnTHaller: what do you think about how the publisher should go? I've never put in the name, but I've seen a couple who do put "X Team & PortableApps.com (Person)". 03:39:28 I usually put the person on PA.c but leave the publisher line in appinfo as just X Team and PA.c for space reasons. But some people add (DevName) to appinfo.ini and if they did the app I usually leave it 03:39:43 I think this is pretty good: http://portableapps.com/temp/ZazPortable_128.png 03:43:17 I've got a few more notes for it and I'd like to quickly see if implementing language switching is plausible. 03:43:34 Ok, I'm packaging it up now but there's still time for any changes you'd like 03:45:46 What are you doing about the 256x256 icon? Got a high enough quality one for that? 03:46:01 we don't use 256px for anything 03:46:37 Look at appicon.ico. 03:46:52 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03:46:59 I swapped it to 48/32/16 only 03:47:10 Good. 03:47:42 Should I post my report or give it here to you? 03:47:55 either is fine 03:48:45 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:49:20 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 03:50:44 So... I can take out 256 from all my apps then? 03:51:13 If you have it, you can leave it in. It's fine either way. It's listed as optional. I removed it here because it was an upscaled low-res icon that looked bad. 03:51:31 Oh, I thought you meant the rule in general. 03:51:33 Nvm. 03:52:43 Language switching is easy, not sure why he didn't put it in. 03:52:47 ChrisMorgan, whenever you get a chance can you look at SWI-Prolog and K-3D? 03:53:19 Has he done language switching in any of his apps before? 03:54:00 *** Guest69563 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03:54:48 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407-@aura.devnetonline.net) has joined #portableapps 03:54:50 dbdii407 is Dave, Owner of the ScrapIRC Network. 03:54:56 *** dbdii407 is now known as Guest2785 03:57:08 No idea. 03:57:24 Maybe he's just never done it before. 04:00:29 *** JacobMastel (~JacobMast@235.68.234.166.in-addr.arpa) has joined #portableapps 04:00:51 It wasn't hard; the value is right there and follows the established pattern. 04:01:16 Hjb 04:02:19 JohnTHaller: http://portableapps.com/node/23426#comment-166009 04:03:35 you spelled color wrong :-P 04:04:01 Hahaha. 04:08:17 Ok, ChrisMorgan, got all the changes in. 04:08:17 no you spelled it wrong :P 04:08:51 JohnTHaller: at first I put colour, then I changed it to color, then I changed it back to colour and wondered whether you would change it back back back. 04:09:44 *** JacobMastel has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 04:15:04 *** JacobMastel (~JacobMast@235.68.234.166.in-addr.arpa) has joined #portableapps 04:17:56 You guys wanna try it quick before I set it live? 04:18:01 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/ZazPortable_1.0.0.paf.exe 04:18:22 K, uno momento. 04:20:20 Second installer integrity check failure. 04:20:37 Trying another mirror. 04:20:59 Oh, not on any of the others yet. 04:21:09 Oh yeah, I did just post it, so it may take a min to properly mirror 04:21:11 Don't like this master.dl.sourceforge.net, disconnecting frequently. 04:21:33 Yeah. 04:21:35 7 retries. 04:21:44 It only downloads 1 MB from it then quits. 04:22:31 You did! 04:22:56 JohnTHaller: you using Notepad++ to edit these files? 04:23:07 you need wget then :p 04:23:11 YAY for instant DL via softlayer :) 04:23:13 installed :D 04:23:14 wget -c FTW :) 04:23:16 On another mirror now, looks like this one is working. 04:23:21 * ChrisMorgan used wget 04:23:23 too bad I need to stay focused for another hour...then I can play :0 04:23:25 *:) 04:23:29 * Gizmokid2005 just used ff4b7 04:23:38 you also used a diff mirror 04:23:42 JohnTHaller: whenever I see a file from you, it's missing EOL at end of file. 04:23:58 I just used whatever it gave me :D 04:24:26 Alright, working for me now. Installing. 04:24:46 JohnTHaller: all good :-) 04:25:03 What's one of the languages it supports (other than English)? 04:25:27 fr 04:25:59 fr, es, de, pl, ru, it, hu, tr 04:26:23 Hmm. French isn't working for me. 04:26:29 Yea Notepad++ 04:26:38 Have the menu set in Fr? 04:26:42 Yes. 04:26:54 Let me try Russian. 04:27:37 That's working. 04:28:12 Is there an error in the launcher.ini for French, or are there only a few strings translated in the main app? 04:28:22 Well, I can look *smacks forehead* 04:30:11 Hmm. It should work. Maybe there's something wrong with the language file. 04:30:20 But I can't read it. 04:31:36 Oh, I see. 04:31:40 There's no DefaultData. 04:32:02 So language switching won't work for the first launch. 04:32:12 Yeah, that's the issue 04:32:45 S'pose so. Create the file as blank and it should work. 04:33:06 Uninstalling doesn't work either. Hmm. 04:33:22 Oh, now it does. 04:34:03 ChrisMorgan, I've always put in the language option and its default (whatever form of 'English' it uses). 04:34:21 Ok, so I need a default profile then. Gonna call it PortableApps.com maybe? 04:34:22 Doesn't need to be there at all, really. 04:34:29 Oh, hmm. 04:34:39 JohnTHaller: are you sure you do? Try just a blank file called "settings" 04:35:06 Does the settings file need to be inside a profile folder? 04:35:53 ChrisMorgan, there a way to make language switching work in PAL without needing DefaultData at all? 04:36:08 For the next release, that it. 04:36:10 is* 04:36:12 That works. But, by default, it will create a 'profile' for whatever the username is on the PC they first log in with. Hmmm 04:36:19 Yep. 04:36:22 Yeah, it does. 04:36:33 *** JacobMastel has quit (Quit: Bye) 04:36:33 ChrisMorgan, let me know when that's fixed then. =P 04:37:03 Scriptdaemon: that "yep" was for John. 04:37:07 Ah. 04:37:22 So, I'm thinking we create a default profile then... so the user doesn't end up with login6374 at a net cafe or school or something 04:37:34 That makes sense. 04:37:39 Since the profile name is on the screen at every launch 04:37:49 Scriptdaemon: For you, it's a choice between an extra line in the [FileWriteN] sections Create=true to do it or default data. 04:38:35 When was that added? I don't remember that when I started doing language switching. 04:38:41 But good to know, thanks. 04:39:36 I meant implementing something like that. 04:39:59 Oh. 04:40:18 It would be that way if it was. Which should it be - 13 bytes more in the file or a blank file (4KB on disk on FAT32 :P) 04:40:31 Ok, working with the PortableApps.com Profile 04:40:33 Is there a reason for it to not create the file if it doesn't exist? 04:40:59 Seems better than Default or something, since this is multilingual 04:41:11 Yeah. 04:43:12 Is that "PortableApps.com Profile" or "PortableApps.com" Profile? 04:43:28 Just PortableApps.com. So it shows up as Profil: PortableApps.com in French 04:43:58 Good. 04:45:40 I uploaded the new one. Just gotta let it mirror out a bit. 04:47:33 "let it mirror out a bit" - eww, what ghastly English! 04:48:04 you winding me up, mate? 04:51:06 I love the way you two bicker. 04:51:46 kick his butt, kick his butt! 04:51:53 Scriptdaemon: (and he complains of me misspelling colour :P) 04:52:40 *** CruelC (~CruelC@178.34.57.49) has joined #portableapps 04:52:49 Well, come on. We invented English. Learn to speak it! :D 04:52:54 Hi. 04:53:01 *** mark105 (~Mark@122.58.184.139) has joined #portableapps 04:53:02 You... what? 04:53:09 Hello CruelC. 04:53:17 I'm laughing so hard right now at you two. 04:53:28 The Americans invented American; they don't even /speak/ English in general. 04:53:29 haha JohnTHaller, ChrisMorgan 04:53:37 What is the cmdline key to init a paf.exe with a certain install path? 04:53:45 JohnTHaller: Americans inventing English is the same as Russians inventing Cyrillic :P 04:53:50 such a petty thing to argue about JohnTHaller and ChrisMorgan 04:54:04 Would that Steve were here :P 04:55:04 CruelC: Lemme get it for you 04:55:07 CruelC: /DESTINATION=X:\PortableApps 04:55:16 Ah, thanks ChrisMorgan 04:55:16 Americans invented NetEng, not normal English 04:55:31 CruelC: it tacks the AppNamePortable on to that 04:56:07 I've actually heard of some American who thought the US invented English. Huge facepalm moment. 04:56:28 Was it someone from the south? 04:56:59 I think so. 04:57:00 Because I find that very believable. 04:57:24 Updated Zaz should have hit the mirrors by now. Please clear your recent cache, redownload and give it a whirl. 04:57:26 JohnTHaller: when we were in America in 1994, I am told by my parents someone asked where we came from (Australia) and then asked whether we had come by bus. 04:57:37 Sorry, 1996 that was. 04:57:38 Well, did you? 04:57:43 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 04:57:46 I just wanna use Portable versions of some apps together with some portable dloader to work around NSISDL issues 04:57:46 lol. 04:58:15 *** CruelC is now known as VBSDragon 04:58:17 JohnTHaller: no. We came by aeroplane. 04:58:29 CruelC: What are you trying to do exactly? Is inetc not working on your work or school setup? 04:58:30 Btw, vf2nsr needs voice. 04:58:42 ? 04:58:45 *** VBSDragon is now known as BSDragon|A 04:59:02 btw, what do you guys think on officially releasing AntRenamer Portable? I've never had any trouble with it on XP, though I never used it on Vista or Seven 04:59:12 vf2nsr: this 04:59:14 vf2nsr: All devs get +v in IRC giving them a lil symbol next to their name and meaning they can still talk if we mute the room. 04:59:29 Which I've never seen happen. 04:59:44 We only really use it to indicate dev status so that people in chat know that you're more 'official' 04:59:46 I have, twice. 04:59:57 ah ok 05:00:17 btw John looking at log will let Zaz know about illegal site 05:00:24 JohnTHaller: and then we get to the "world series"... ;-) 05:01:12 Yeah, that site does a ton of apps without permission, etc. Pulled up the homepage and there's Firefox in a zip (not allowed) called Portable Firefox (not allowed) with some other odd stuff. 05:01:25 Well, it is the part of the world that matters :D 05:01:39 LOL. 05:02:06 okies will let her know 05:02:22 vf2nsr: Zaz is already updated and ready to release. Just waiting for it to hit a few more mirrors. 05:02:28 http://portableapps.com/apps/games/zaz_portable 05:02:37 tyvm 05:02:53 No md5 yet? 05:03:05 Redid the icon, Chris added language switching, added a default profile so it doesn't pick up the name from whatever pc they are logged into, etc 05:03:28 md5 added, thanks 05:04:16 Arg, you edited the page just as I was fixing WAtomic references... 05:05:17 Copy and resave your edit 05:05:17 looks great John looks like you deserve more credit for your work on it than I do lol 05:05:32 *** BSDragon|A is now known as VBSDragon 05:05:32 Then add the md5: 191d2307585c2cd412754fea469e9074 05:05:42 That's the only change I made 05:05:49 JohnTHaller: I just did it again. 05:06:01 JohnTHaller: NSISDL has numerous AV-related issues, right? 05:06:04 vf2nsr: It's always a group effort. I'm just happy getting new apps out for people. 05:06:26 VBSDragon: We don't use it. We use inetc instead. No real AV issues and it automatically uses the PC proxy as configured. 05:07:10 JohnTHaller: your updater uses inetc, but many original products that you portabilize are using NSIS - like WZ2100 05:07:14 NSISDL* 05:07:25 well I am srill new at this so appreciate all the help still workingon Rednotebook but tiringquickly so probably won't be ready till tomorrow afternoon unless we get a bad snowstorm 05:07:27 Only their own installers, which we don't use 05:08:18 I just want to use a script to download the needed files, copy them to the install dir, then run the paf.exe 05:08:54 What's it ultimately for? Sound like you could use the PA.c updater code. 05:09:25 JohnTHaller: WZ's original installer fails to dload movies and mods. 05:09:51 Ah. I think our stub installers for the movies fail, too, at the moment. I should check those. 05:11:09 so I just want to work around with a batch. 05:11:18 Ah ok. 05:11:30 I should just fix em. They fail because the files moved. Not for any coding issue. 05:11:43 Ok, zaz is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2010-12-15_-_zaz_portable_1.0.0 adding to homepage now 05:12:57 JohnTHaller: when playing Zaz /I/ arrange them in groups of four often :D 05:13:12 and, does OTTD portable already contain all 3 content kits, or at least the graphics? 05:13:22 Yes, all 3 05:13:39 JohnTHaller: I think I'd put Zaz in Arcade rather than Puzzle. 05:13:56 Yeah, tough to classify some of these. 05:14:18 VBSDragon, graphics is mandatory for it to start anyway, so I had to put that in and I figured I'd go for the others as well. 05:15:03 looks great John just emailed it to author as well as the other portable site issues 05:15:14 hopefully it gets resolved 05:15:25 Because original installer of OTTD uses NSISDL. I had to work around by dloading old TTD, just to make it run. 05:15:58 vf2nsr: concerning the tag line, it's meant to be no more than five or six words in general. 05:16:57 ah ok was the other choice was not totally appropo 05:17:03 but point taken 05:17:59 question do you ever have a fork off of the official apps page for addons for an app? 05:18:35 generally no. we add it on the same page. we'll be modifying the layout in the near future as well 05:19:15 I think there should be a simple "getadd" inside each paf.exe if original app has addons 05:19:20 example: lbreakout2 and my installer of the additional play sets 05:19:43 where I created an installer to add moresets 05:19:52 JohnTHaller: the top row of pixels of http://portableapps.com/files/images/logos/ZazPortable_75.png isn't very neat 05:20:12 the sides aren't either but are hidden by the drop shadow and glow 05:20:23 vf2nsr: each app should have "add" folder in the repo, and AppNamePortable should have "getadd" exe. 05:20:53 each app that has addons - WZ, Pidgin, OTTD... 05:21:05 Too messy, really. Most users will never do add-ons. And the addons won't work with the updater yet anyway 05:21:31 Wait, so what's the problem with using the built-in addon downloader in OTTD? 05:21:37 Most apps that have add-ons make them available as zips to manually install and are done by all kinds of 3rd parties and not done in sync with app version updates. 05:22:16 haha, most of you should get a kick out of this: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Some-Call-Me%E2%80%A6-Tim.aspx 05:22:24 understanable john in lbreakout case there were some 50 such I just created a way to get them all and install them in correct pa placement 05:22:34 Scriptdaemon: I mean, main inner addon dloader works, but main 3 packs are already in. More into WZ, really 05:23:13 was just wondering makes not much difference to me 05:24:29 WZ? 05:24:48 * VBSDragon doesn't care for lbreakout and arkanoids, anyway 05:24:54 WZ - warzone 2100 05:25:03 Ah. 05:25:20 Just making sure there was nothing wrong with OTTD Portable, since I'm the dev. 05:26:19 but OTTD doesn't need a portabilizer, since it runs portable just by placing the config into the install folder 05:26:27 same with Dosbox 05:26:58 It's not that it needs to be portablized, but rather now it works with the PA.c menu. Language switching, backups, etc. 05:27:34 And in Enigma, you just change the paths. 05:28:06 Enigma - that ball-rolling game, ready to swallow your arms 05:28:12 Yeah, without a launcher you lose all that. drive letter and path portablization (so MRU, configs, etc work. language switching with the platform. ability to be properly backed up by the PA.c Backup (which takes MUCH less time when all apps have data at specific locations) 05:28:35 VBSDragon: Ok, Warzone 2100 video downloads are now working again 05:29:11 WOW I did such a nice job on the New Zaz post lol 05:29:19 downloads with pa downloader? 05:30:02 It's a PA.c Installer. And it uses the inetc control just like our updater and other PA.c online installers. It was failing before because the videos had been moved so it couldn't find them. 05:30:55 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:32:11 JohnTHaller, is Scribus ready yet? I saw that he updated it. 05:32:43 haven't checked. like to get that out 05:32:49 I need to follow it up with the Scribus team. 05:39:09 Firefox fails to zoom your website 05:39:28 +_+ 05:40:15 Um, huh? It zooms in and out fine. 05:40:38 JohnTHaller: Thanks for the awesome menu. I have an idea on how to make groups work, though this may lead to simple deletion being unsuitable 05:41:11 JohnTHaller: on FF - both 3 and 4 - it seems to switch links on ctrl + for me 05:41:13 Ah, categories are just about done. They're in beta 6. And they use the configured categories in appinfo.ini (match the site) 05:42:26 ah, they use category= ... I was thinking of XMLing 05:42:27 *** ronjn has quit (Quit: Rien n'est vrai. Tout est permis.) 05:42:42 AppList.xml 05:42:57 Yeah. And most are already translated by our translators so they'll be native. And then users can customize from there as well. 05:43:55 05:43:55 Warzone2100Portable 05:43:55 TheManaWorldPortable 05:43:55 HedgewarsPortableTest 05:44:01 05:45:40 XML is generated by category= in app profile (AppInfo.ini). 05:47:41 what's the URL for the movie dloader of WZ? 05:48:10 *** Curulan (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) has joined #portableapps 05:48:33 two different ones within the features section: http://portableapps.com/apps/games/warzone_2100_portable 05:48:48 *** ronjn (ronjn@dslb-092-075-241-214.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 05:51:38 *** Zarggg_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05:53:50 Dmn firefox is so snotty! it fails to make normal dload path, I had to force it into asking the path. 06:03:29 Dloading lo-q movies for WZ. Thanks. 06:03:33 *** VBSDragon has parted #portableapps (None) 06:09:45 Maintenance is lasting longer than usual... normally it's back in just over 6 minutes, still down today. 06:10:08 Good point for me to go and eat lunch. 06:11:52 * OliverK thinks its time for a midnight snack 06:16:19 It varies. Sometimes up to 10 mins I've seen. 06:21:20 Firefox 3.0 should be repacked as FirefoxPortableLegacy30 06:22:04 Yeah, I gotta re-do all of those for devs at some point, I spose 06:23:16 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 06:23:38 You've got 1, 15 and 20 just not 30 and 35. 06:24:39 * ChrisMorgan has just been installing various versions to get his Inkscape theme looking proper on them 06:24:50 ah 06:27:08 Well, not as bad as it could have been. Wonder if it's any different running in Windows rather than Wine :P 06:27:22 Testing in Firefox in Wine is probably not sensible. 06:28:02 not really no 06:29:28 * ChrisMorgan will do the sensible thing and just reinstall 3.6 in Ubuntu. Works fine next to 4.0. 06:36:05 Gnight all. Off to bed. 06:36:12 night 06:36:38 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 07:15:33 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 07:38:26 *** zack_ (~zack@host-98-127-146-235.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) has joined #portableapps 07:40:04 *** zack_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 07:48:20 *** OliverK is now known as OliverK|Away 07:54:53 *** Tomwi (~Tom@j4047.upc-j.chello.nl) has joined #portableapps 08:01:53 *** Tiriel (~Tiriel@62.236.104.130) has joined #portableapps 08:03:39 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:23:58 SPAM --> http://portableapps.com/node/21508#comment-166018 and http://portableapps.com/node/25206#comment-166019 08:28:38 *** dboki89 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:29:47 *** Tiriel has quit (Quit: Saliendo) 08:34:43 *** ios_ (~ios@180.191.131.10) has joined #portableapps 08:35:56 *** ios_ has parted #portableapps (None) 08:45:23 *** Tomwi has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:54:21 *** OliverK|Away has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 09:01:21 *** mark105 has quit (Quit: Leaving) 09:44:43 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:47:01 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 09:52:15 *** MaienM|Sleep has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:53:07 *** MaienM (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 09:59:27 *** six (~AndChat@75-92-179-20.war.clearwire-wmx.net) has joined #portableapps 10:00:43 *** six has quit (Client Quit) 10:31:30 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 10:55:23 *** Tom_ (~Tom@j4047.upc-j.chello.nl) has joined #portableapps 10:56:07 *** Tom_ is now known as Tomdev 10:56:27 *** Tomdev has parted #portableapps (None) 13:10:57 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 13:11:41 *** amdzero (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 13:22:18 Opera 11 has been released today 13:25:23 *** Tiriel (~Tiriel@62.236.104.130) has joined #portableapps 13:37:27 *** marchant (~gareth@adsl-068-016-245-031.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) has joined #portableapps 13:37:53 looks like oracle is charging for open office now? 13:39:12 and they launched "cloud office" along with version 3.3 13:43:01 *** marchant1 (~gareth@adsl-068-016-245-031.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) has joined #portableapps 13:45:00 *** marchant has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13:45:32 *** marchant1 has quit (Client Quit) 13:45:52 *** marchant (~gareth@adsl-068-016-245-031.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) has joined #portableapps 13:55:31 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14:09:03 *** Tiriel has parted #portableapps ("Saliendo") 14:21:34 *** pa_9799 (7aa69b92@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.166.155.146) has joined #portableapps 14:21:59 m not able to load any application after starting application 14:34:27 *** pa_9799 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 14:52:11 *** kaeos (~Miranda@90.164.135.241) has joined #portableapps 15:00:31 *** amdzero (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 15:30:15 *** z3uS has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15:32:35 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 15:34:49 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 15:35:42 *** Err0 (~chatzilla@94.233.253.49) has joined #portableapps 15:35:48 0hai 15:35:51 there's a bug 15:36:04 with pa-lg (launcher generator) 15:36:40 it didn't refresh the app icon. 15:42:05 *** amdzero_ (~amdzero@207-144-15-148.cstel.net) has joined #portableapps 15:42:43 *** z3uS has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15:45:53 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15:47:16 I compiled the launcher with Crimson FIelds standard icon, it still puts the old icon 15:55:57 *** kaeos has quit (Quit: kaeos) 15:58:38 *** kaeos (~Miranda@90.164.135.241) has joined #portableapps 15:58:47 *** kaeos has quit (Client Quit) 15:59:34 *** marchant has parted #portableapps (None) 16:13:04 *** Err0 has parted #portableapps (None) 16:42:33 *** amdzero__ (~amdzero@pool-96-231-200-166.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 16:42:56 *** rahul_ (7aa92802@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.169.40.2) has joined #portableapps 16:42:59 hi 16:43:39