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01:54:20 <clueles> How do I put Portable Apps on my Ipod Touch?
01:56:48 <agdurrette> You need to make it work like a usb drive, it is an option in i tunes i think
01:57:17 <clueles> THX
01:58:35 <agdurrette> http://forums.ilounge.com/ipod-touch/217123-why-does-ipod-touch-not-have-disc-mode.html this says you that option is not for the itouch
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03:40:46 <JohnTHaller> hi all
03:42:21 <OliverK|Away> hey
03:43:38 <JohnTHaller> how goes it in here today?
03:48:29 <OliverK|Away> slowly
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04:48:42 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: you around?
04:48:51 <ChrisMorgan> Sort of
04:49:37 <JohnTHaller> Could you please give this a quick looksee?  http://pastebin.com/Sfa0n3Z5
04:52:05 <ChrisMorgan> FileWrite problems.  You do 1, 2, 1; they should be 1, 3, 2
04:53:11 <ChrisMorgan> (Swapping the last two because you need to update the full path before the drive letter)
04:53:18 <JohnTHaller> right, missed that
04:53:46 <JohnTHaller> Actually gonna have to ditch language switching for now.  whole lang section needs to be deleted for English it turns out.
04:53:48 <ChrisMorgan> My personal style also puts [Activate] below [Launch]
04:53:52 <JohnTHaller> It's only English/German anyway
04:54:02 <JohnTHaller> Done and done
04:54:30 <ChrisMorgan> A blank WriteINIStr deletes the key, from memory, but not the section.  That's not good enough, I presume?
04:54:34 <ChrisMorgan> Weird.
04:54:46 <JohnTHaller> Don't know offhand.  But that's what IrfanView itself does.
04:55:19 <ChrisMorgan> Then test it; programs using INI data storage are normally fairly lax about that (XML less so).
04:58:40 <JohnTHaller> Can PAL handle the entry not being there?
05:02:51 <ChrisMorgan> Sure.
05:03:35 <ChrisMorgan> It'll read, get a blank, and so check if %PAL:AppDir%\IrfanView\Languages\%PAL:LanguageCustom%.dll exists - App\IrfanView\Languages\.dll?  No, use English.
05:03:48 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna ditch it for now.  Yesterday's release only has English and German.  He'll probably do another in a few weeks with a dozen updated langs and I'll do it then.  Saving my work for now.
05:03:49 <JohnTHaller> http://pastebin.com/AMPfNCKK
05:04:38 <ChrisMorgan> If you needed to change English to '' that could be arranged too - English= and DefaultIfNotExists= would swing that.
05:05:23 <ChrisMorgan> Are you using PAL 2.1 Beta?
05:05:27 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, but there's two lines.  One is LANGNAME.DLL.  And English doesn't exist.  And if you set it to it, it'll complain it doesn't exist on startup
05:05:33 <JohnTHaller> So, I'd have to use custom code
05:05:38 <JohnTHaller> Yup 2.1b2
05:05:52 <ChrisMorgan> Do you want me to put out another beta now so you can drop the SplashTime line?
05:05:54 <JohnTHaller> Wanted to add in the packagepartialdir stuff
05:06:02 <JohnTHaller> Nah, it's fine.
05:06:18 <JohnTHaller> I'll just use it in official released until you get one out and we can swap em out later.
05:06:36 <ChrisMorgan> Really, it's easy to do.  I can start it and go and have lunch and it'll be up in five minutes.
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05:08:07 <JohnTHaller> No worries, really.  Take your time and do everything for the next one and have it be an RC so we can get it live sooner :)
05:08:14 <JohnTHaller> I'm just gonna push this out and head to bed.
05:08:21 <JohnTHaller> (and sorry, cat closed the window)
05:09:47 <ChrisMorgan> And this is another app that's being released without external testing?
05:11:03 <ChrisMorgan> Or is it based on SmithTech's IrfanView? (or working with him?)
05:14:44 <JohnTHaller> Using similar portablization techniques to his.  It's actually a dead-easy app to portablize.  Just a single INI switch and some values to update.  And then those reg cleanups.  That works on everything from XP to Win7
05:15:45 <JohnTHaller> SmithTech's is outdated IrfanView and using the old Portable Application Template that is problematic.  And I've chatted back and forth with Irfan directly on getting this out on PA.c a few months back.
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05:43:58 <vf2nsr> Hi All
05:44:10 <JohnTHaller> howdy
05:44:36 <vf2nsr> Did Chris give ya my message re:Zaz
05:45:19 <JohnTHaller> what msg
05:45:59 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: Got response back  for the Zaz site it is updated to new link on PA and the illegal site was removed
05:46:15 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller:  so all is good
05:46:19 <JohnTHaller> Ah good to hear.  I figured they weren't aware of it.
05:46:41 <JohnTHaller> Let em know that can grab that updated 128px icon if they'd like it from the app's homepage
05:47:24 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller:  currenlty working on RedNotebook  may have a bug  working it out now....that 128 I had had was actually ine I had done  not original for them
05:48:13 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: got an email out to author  also going to try it in XP in case it my win 7 machine
05:48:34 <JohnTHaller> Ok, cool.  Lemme know as it'd be nice to get Rednotebook out
05:49:37 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: me 2 lol  hope maybe by weekend
05:50:05 <vf2nsr> tyvm
05:51:04 <JohnTHaller> Ok, anybody want to give this a quick look over before I start posting it?  http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/irfanview_portable
05:53:29 <vf2nsr> should it say toolbar skin options  instead of skins option?
05:53:44 <JohnTHaller> I took it right from his site
05:54:01 <vf2nsr> oh ok sorry
05:54:09 <vf2nsr> sweet can't wait to dl that one
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05:54:41 <IdiotTux> 0hai.
05:54:57 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: App\readme.txt is missing but not worth redoing it for.
05:55:10 <JohnTHaller> I don't bother with those anymore.  They aren't required by the spec
05:55:58 <ChrisMorgan> Do you think I should remove it from the app template then?
05:56:31 <JohnTHaller> Nah, it's fine if people include it.  I should really stick em in.  But it's not something we really need to note in releases or testing as it's not required.
05:57:09 <ChrisMorgan> Currently I have it as a warning normally due to the convention of including it and with PAL an error because it's in the app template.
05:58:44 <IdiotTux> I used Mana World as a template
05:59:34 <IdiotTux> I, using the launcher generator, portabilized two apps so far.
06:00:35 <IdiotTux> famous CC-licensed "Phenomenon 32" and GPLed Battle Isle clone, Crimson Fields
06:01:20 <IdiotTux> but I do not know how to build an installer
06:01:53 <ChrisMorgan> IdiotTux: when making portable apps, you should use the PortableApps.com Launcher now.
06:02:30 <IdiotTux> ChrisMorgan: I used the launcher, using Mana World as the folder tree and profile template.
06:03:05 <ChrisMorgan> It's much better to start from the clean app template from the PortableApps.com Launcher page.
06:03:41 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: nice error message on site but can I have diet dew instead of tea?
06:03:48 <IdiotTux> Does it hold the "help"?
06:04:02 <JohnTHaller> Tea or nuthin
06:04:40 <vf2nsr> :(  creme no sugar then lol
06:05:33 <JohnTHaller> reload the maintenance page quick
06:05:54 <IdiotTux> ...
06:06:07 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller:  tyvm
06:06:17 <JohnTHaller> site's offline for around 5-10 mins at 1am every day.  so you see a maintenance page
06:06:22 <JohnTHaller> 1am NY time that is
06:06:47 <vf2nsr> ok  so 105 maine time since we are a bit slow here
06:10:12 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: should just read something like "(If you don't like tea, try coffee or water.)"
06:10:34 <ChrisMorgan> Scrap that, the biscuits line is good.
06:10:44 <ChrisMorgan> Were they chocolate biscuits?
06:11:09 <ChrisMorgan> MUCH better putting in a bit of humour there.  I like it :-)
06:12:19 <JohnTHaller> I thought it'd make some folks smile
06:20:12 <IdiotTux> Is there a script for msword to autoedit all **.** strings?
06:20:43 <IdiotTux> sorry, I am not even a proper human, just a lazy, brainless fatassoid.
06:21:01 <JohnTHaller> IdiotTux: Not that I know of.  Word's find and replace is pretty simple
06:23:30 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan:  a while back  there was discussion about PAL  use of the variable $HOME  you suggested I think that that may be coming  anything new on it?
06:24:13 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, Word doesn't even support regular expressions (snigger) :P
06:24:32 <JohnTHaller> I don't recall exactly what we discussed at the moment
06:24:41 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: what precisely do you mean?
06:25:06 <IdiotTux> when edited with msword, help leaves "help files"
06:25:14 <IdiotTux> so it breaks the structure.
06:25:22 <IdiotTux> but plain editing is more painful
06:25:45 <IdiotTux> so with what tool modify "help"?
06:26:19 <ChrisMorgan> IdiotTux: ??
06:26:25 <ChrisMorgan> What do you mean by "help"?
06:26:37 <IdiotTux> MSWord leaves trash files when modding help.html
06:26:59 <IdiotTux> so I need to edit with something as comfy as MS word, but without butts of trash files
06:27:07 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: Let me check  I believe it was with defining the $HOME variable  http://portableapps.com/node/25429
06:27:36 <ChrisMorgan> IdiotTux: NEVER use Word to edit HTML files or plain text files.  It's EVIL.
06:28:31 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: it's not a PAL issue, it's a scribus issue.  There's nothing special about the variable HOME in PAL.
06:28:32 <IdiotTux> then how to comfortably edit a HTML?
06:28:49 <ChrisMorgan> IdiotTux: I always use gVim.
06:28:57 <ChrisMorgan> You should probably use Notepad++.
06:30:32 <IdiotTux> NP++ has parsing highlights, but has no option of "visual" editing (like when editing in Word)
06:31:48 <IdiotTux> dloaded both gvim and np++ as PAFs
06:32:19 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan:  ah ok  As I was searching  since was not sur if that was my issue with Rednotebook  tyvm
06:33:03 <ChrisMorgan> IdiotTux: for new people, vim is a complex text editor.  It takes quite a long time to learn to use its power.
06:33:33 <ChrisMorgan> IdiotTux: editing HTML by hand is always better than with an HTML editor.
06:34:08 <IdiotTux> better if you are a coder.
06:34:37 <IdiotTux> If you are just a sad, sick fatty...
06:35:31 <IdiotTux> okay, how to mass-string-edit via np++?
06:36:19 <ChrisMorgan> Concerning the help.html template, just find **; there aren't many occurrences and most of the things you need to replace are different.
06:36:48 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: quick question on irfanview I am installing the plugins  if the program get updated  will th einstaller delete the plugins  or is it set to not delete?  Asking since mostly things are saved to data so installer doesn't remove them
06:37:46 <JohnTHaller> It will retain them
06:38:05 <JohnTHaller> Most apps that have plugins we have the installers set to recognize and preserve them.
06:38:15 <JohnTHaller> Opera and Firefox work that way, too.
06:38:46 <vf2nsr> ok ws just wondering ty  guess brain is sliding  so thought I would ask
06:42:27 <vf2nsr> night all
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06:44:01 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I am off as well
06:44:03 <JohnTHaller> Gnight all
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06:55:56 <IdiotTux> Can't find the manual with data on directories move
06:57:08 <ChrisMorgan> It's all in ref/launcher.ini
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07:05:44 <IdiotTux> appinfo.ini should be in the template too, as well as a commented-out hint on DirectoriesMove.
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07:19:57 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: you around still?
07:20:08 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: no
07:20:15 <ChrisMorgan> Just going to my grandparents' place now
07:21:00 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan:  ok well if you were would you have told me if I need to worry about C:\Users\Aztec\AppData\Roaming\gtk-2.0\gtkfilechooser.ini  in my regshot  for Rednotebook?
07:21:11 <vf2nsr> ok
07:21:13 <vf2nsr> np
07:21:21 <vf2nsr> sorry was tyoing and not looking up
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08:21:08 <KindOne> Enjoy the 31 Days of App-Ness! A new app every day all month.
08:21:15 <KindOne> it possible to get PeerBlock ?
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13:06:25 <pa_4524> Hi, the new app Irfanview has been posted in the wrong category. it's not open source.
13:06:53 <pa_4524> http://portableapps.com/news/2010-12-16_-_irfanview_portable_4.28
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13:10:49 <TASAIRES> Hi alls!
13:12:26 <TASAIRES> Today i see on PortableApps many new and old, apps .... Any to else irFanView, PChar, and Opera11.
13:12:59 <TASAIRES> these apps are include how .paf install pack
13:14:01 <TASAIRES> Nice, on IrfanView Portable, come how Multilanguage, and see this no give Plugins!
13:15:27 <TASAIRES> IrfanView Page have plugin for many Language, because the program and the .paf package only give 2 Language! German(Deutch), and english
13:16:50 <ChrisMorgan> TASAIRES: ?
13:16:58 <TASAIRES> I are Spanish native. And See I download, Plugins, and Pluging Language, form Web Infarview for can have .paf
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13:17:23 <ChrisMorgan> TASAIRES: currently IrfanView is only available in English and German.
13:17:40 <XhmikosR> who's using Regshot?
13:17:52 <ChrisMorgan> XhmikosR: are you having problems with it?
13:18:00 <TASAIRES> I are usin many year  InfarView, zip , + plugins + language, on USB,
13:18:07 <XhmikosR> the usual problems :P
13:18:25 <XhmikosR> but I ask cause I want other people to try my Regshot build
13:18:35 <XhmikosR> cause I find it faster than the one you distribute
13:19:00 <XhmikosR> http://code.google.com/p/regshot/downloads/list
13:19:14 <TASAIRES> Now PortableApps, Official Suport!, can Incude, Plugin, and Language dll extra. Or Link on Portableapps for Help Moree uSe.
13:19:15 <XhmikosR> can you compare the times with the above builds?
13:20:06 <TASAIRES> Regshot, i use many year too, and is one the New PortableApps, include
13:20:26 <XhmikosR> note that I have only tested the 64bit build on a virtual mahine
13:20:28 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: I usingª
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13:20:47 <TASAIRES> ChrisMorgan: Thanks
13:20:48 <XhmikosR> yeah but there isn't a 64bit build available :P
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13:21:11 <XhmikosR> and also this one is built with WDK which produces faster and smaller binaries
13:21:12 <ChrisMorgan> XhmikosR: is the 32-bit version faster on 32-bit systems?
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13:21:34 <XhmikosR> for me yes that's why I need someone else to try it and give me some numbers
13:21:58 <ChrisMorgan> What sort of speed differences are you observing?
13:22:15 <XhmikosR> huge that's why I need confirmation
13:22:31 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: XhmikosR only get a image from you reg, and 2nd image, for diference vs comparation to that.
13:22:46 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: i think is only 32 bits
13:22:46 <XhmikosR> TASAIRES: not my point
13:22:50 <XhmikosR> http://code.google.com/p/regshot/downloads/list
13:22:58 <XhmikosR> and there you have 64bit too
13:23:35 <XhmikosR> it's even possible to build it with GCC
13:23:40 <ChrisMorgan> What changes have you made?  Looking at the svn log it appears to be mainly just the compiler?
13:23:42 <XhmikosR> I haven't committed that change yet
13:24:00 <XhmikosR> yes and a couple ofchanges in the code needed to get the 64bit build
13:25:07 <ChrisMorgan> I'd be interested to compare performance of 1.8.2 32 vs. 1.8.3 32 and 64.  My own virtual machines I keep clean, so I tend to have a first shot time of only 8-15 seconds anyway.
13:25:13 <XhmikosR> the main downside of regshot is that it's not unicode
13:25:29 <XhmikosR> 8-15?
13:25:30 <ChrisMorgan> But I should be able to test it on one of our other machines which is "stale".
13:25:36 <XhmikosR> I get 5.9-6-2 second
13:25:37 <XhmikosR> s
13:25:57 <ChrisMorgan> I've always found Regshot's performance to vary quite significantly.
13:26:06 <XhmikosR> I know
13:26:18 <XhmikosR> that's why I need more people to test it
13:26:18 <ChrisMorgan> Are you interested in/planning on further developing regshot?
13:26:31 <ChrisMorgan> If you are, I've got a number of feature requests :-)
13:26:46 <XhmikosR> my programming skills as ZachT|ZzZz knows are limited
13:27:00 <XhmikosR> I help at PChat but I'm still learning
13:27:18 <ChrisMorgan> Ah, you're the new PChat team member, are you?
13:27:27 <XhmikosR> not new
13:27:36 <XhmikosR> the other guy is for linux :P
13:27:49 <XhmikosR> I'm the one who made the plugins possible to build :)
13:27:57 <XhmikosR> plus the official Inno installer
13:29:15 <ChrisMorgan> I'd been thinking I might need to rewrite the gist of regshot in Python (and then compile it with Cython to improve performance) to use it effectively in a new utility I've been working on; if we can improve the original code-base, that'd be better still.
13:30:03 <XhmikosR> anyway my builds should be faster and are definitely smaller and can be a lot smaller if you use /O1
13:30:32 <XhmikosR> WDK has the advantage that you are linking to the system's crt
13:39:15 <XhmikosR> this is the time it takes on my machine (32bit) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3228/regshot.png
13:40:28 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: All 32-bit MS Windows (95/98/NT/2000/XP)
13:41:06 <XhmikosR> TASAIRES: what are you talking about?
13:41:10 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: regshot in Sumary http://sourceforge.net/projects/regshot/
13:41:20 <XhmikosR> wtf are you on mate?
13:41:28 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: this is one app for 32Bits
13:41:33 <XhmikosR> FFS
13:41:34 <XhmikosR> FFS
13:41:44 <XhmikosR> I just gave you a link from my Regshot fork
13:42:00 <XhmikosR> including a 64bit build
13:42:02 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: you can use on 64BIts but thanks to 32 Bits Mode
13:42:08 <XhmikosR> http://code.google.com/p/regshot/downloads/list
13:42:14 <XhmikosR> you want me to spam the channel?
13:42:23 <ChrisMorgan> XhmikosR: "Linking to the system's crt"?
13:42:38 <XhmikosR> http://kobyk.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/dynamically-linking-with-msvcrtdll-using-visual-c-2005/
13:42:44 <XhmikosR> start reading :P
13:42:49 <TASAIRES> on Windows 64 or Linux, there any dll and apps for run 32 Bits compatibility
13:42:52 <XhmikosR> what's up with that guy
13:43:28 <XhmikosR> you probably don't understand English so please don't say what comes to your mind
13:45:30 <TASAIRES> XD, not, only to that apps RegShot, coming desing initialment for 32 Bits, but on the time that go evoluting, and how Oficialment come Binary and Source Code
13:45:34 <XhmikosR> btw for some reason using the launcher takes 2-3 seconds longer than tunning the executable directly
13:46:17 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: yu can need Mod the Original codec, indiferent you copile gcc on 32 or 64 bits
13:46:36 <XhmikosR> TASAIRES: PLEASE, stop talking
13:47:06 <TASAIRES> XhmikosR: Ok Cut and Close  = Comunication with u
13:47:16 <XhmikosR> thanks
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15:45:10 <ZachThibeau> back
15:45:27 <ZachThibeau> at least for an hour or so
15:45:39 <BeckySanderlin`x> k
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16:29:52 <vf2nsr> Hi everyonne
16:30:03 <ZachThibeau> hey vf2nsr
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16:32:03 <XhmikosR> ZachThibeau: you can even use gcc for regshot :)
16:32:13 <ZachThibeau> I read the log
16:32:19 <XhmikosR> I haven't made an 64bit config for gcc yet
16:32:26 <ZachThibeau> shouldn't be too hard
16:32:40 <XhmikosR> but smaller and faster executable should be with wdk
16:32:58 <ZachThibeau> btw thanks for the 4.5.2 mingww32/64 build
16:33:12 <ZachThibeau> still keeping my eye on 4.6 though :P
16:33:43 <XhmikosR> it's very experimental so I will wait :P
16:34:00 <ZachThibeau> hey I play with alpha quality stuff
16:34:03 <ZachThibeau> :P
16:34:39 <XhmikosR> you have 64bit windows, right?
16:34:50 <ZachThibeau> 64bit windows 7 pro
16:35:00 <XhmikosR> can you try the 64bit regshot?
16:35:05 <XhmikosR> I only tried it in a VM
16:35:14 <ZachThibeau> sure
16:35:25 <XhmikosR> btw I should be able to support Win2K
16:35:56 <XhmikosR> i mean with wdk, gcc should work
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16:36:37 <ZachThibeau> scaning registry now
16:36:55 <ZachThibeau> crashed on second scan
16:37:07 <XhmikosR> well that's normal
16:37:13 <XhmikosR> don't even move the mouse :P
16:37:37 <ZachThibeau> well thats a major bug imho :P
16:37:45 <XhmikosR> I told you it's buggy as hell
16:37:53 <ZachThibeau> works though
16:38:03 <XhmikosR> works when it doesn't crash
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16:44:24 <vf2nsr> XhmikosR: sounds like my truck  works when I put gas in it lol
16:45:17 <XhmikosR> well feel free to fix Regshot :P
16:45:57 <ZachThibeau> I would be willing to look at the code but I have enough on my plate :P
16:46:44 <XhmikosR> well the first thing would be to make it unicode
16:47:01 <XhmikosR> but I know, I don't expect a lot of thing :P
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17:20:02 <kevinpaige> Hello
17:20:21 <kevinpaige> Help, please...
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17:20:47 <Simeon> hi all
17:20:57 <Simeon> hi vf2nsr
17:20:59 <kevinpaige> Hi Simeon
17:21:06 <Simeon> hi Kevin
17:22:10 <kevinpaige> Hey, I just tried to register at PortableApps.com, and received the email to
17:22:31 <kevinpaige> ... with a link to activate my account...
17:22:33 <vf2nsr> Hi Simen
17:22:38 <vf2nsr> Simeon
17:22:52 <kevinpaige> ... when I click it, it doesn't get me activated...
17:23:20 <vf2nsr> Simeon: you busy?
17:23:33 <Simeon> @Kevin what happens?
17:23:48 <Simeon> @vf2nsr: no atm
17:24:02 <vf2nsr> Simeon: can you pm me please
17:24:28 <kevinpaige> It goes to PortableApps...
17:24:42 <kevinpaige> To a page that says this is a one-time login
17:24:53 <kevinpaige> I click it, but it doesn't activate me
17:24:58 <kevinpaige> Reset password   This is a one-time login for kevinprice and will expire on  December 18, 2010 - 12:05pm. Click on this button to login to the site and change your password. This login can be used only once.
17:25:13 <Simeon> but it doesnt really log you in?
17:25:23 <kevinpaige> Nope, it doesn't
17:25:47 <kevinpaige> I then tried the 'reset password' and received a new email with a link... still doesn't work
17:26:43 <kevinpaige> I then get a login screen... asking for username and password... but of course, I don't have a password
17:27:31 <Simeon> hm. dunno what this could be.
17:27:37 <kevinpaige> Anyway, I was only trying to register to download the beta platform version... couldn't find a link for it (just info about it), so I thought maybe I had to register... anyone know?
17:27:52 <Simeon> no need to register.
17:28:11 <kevinpaige> I'll look again... didn't find the link for the download
17:28:32 <Simeon> http://portableapps.com/node/24258
17:28:36 <vf2nsr> Simeon: Thanks
17:28:47 <Simeon> or http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_2.0_Beta_5.exe?download_redirect_do_not_right_click
17:28:51 <Simeon> to be exact
17:29:09 <kevinpaige> I'll download it while the link is showing, then return... thanks!
17:29:30 <Simeon> if you have time - the main dev used to come online in the next few hours lately, so you could ask him directly.
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17:30:30 <Simeon> @vf2nsr: you messed up the post layout when you updated it.
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17:31:55 <vf2nsr> :(  willcheck it out  sorrty
17:33:12 <kevinpaige> Well, I clicked the download link... got the page saying it will download shortly...
17:33:18 <kevinpaige> it didn't....
17:33:35 <kevinpaige> so I clicked the "if you're having problems downloading, click here"
17:33:49 <kevinpaige> and the direct link didn't work...
17:33:54 <kevinpaige> so then I tried a mirror...
17:33:57 <kevinpaige> still nothing...
17:34:04 <kevinpaige> so it must be this computer I'm on
17:34:07 <kevinpaige> it's a public computer
17:34:15 <Simeon> try http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/PortableApps.com%20Platform%20Test/PortableApps.com%20Platform%202.0%20Beta%205/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_2.0_Beta_5.exe?r=&ts=1292607235&use_mirror=sunet
17:34:23 <Simeon> it just worked for me
17:34:26 <vf2nsr> Simeon: grrr  hate html coding  :-X
17:34:27 <kevinpaige> however... I downloaded Sunbird and other stuff just earlier
17:36:33 <kevinpaige> That last link worked... downloaded successfully!
17:36:43 <kevinpaige> It must be this computer, for some reason...
17:37:11 <kevinpaige> I did have to click a pop-up block to allow it to download...
17:37:32 <kevinpaige> so, maybe the notice just wasn't working... I've got a lot of windows open at the moment
17:37:42 <kevinpaige> Anyway, thanks Simeon!
17:37:51 <Simeon> glad it worked.
17:37:59 <kevinpaige> You tried the beta?
17:38:28 <Simeon> I run it since it got released almost daily
17:38:40 <kevinpaige> ... so it's stable...
17:38:46 <kevinpaige> I assumed it was...
17:38:59 <kevinpaige> Did you keep 1.6.1 too?
17:39:07 <kevinpaige> Or do you just run 2.0 beta?
17:39:08 <Simeon> no.
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17:39:34 <kevinpaige> No, you don't run 1.6.1, right?
17:40:01 <kevinpaige> Sorry, was quoting you... "no"...
17:40:14 <vf2nsr> Simeon: can't get it to recognize lf  or paragraph no clue why
17:40:15 <Simeon> I only run the beta
17:40:29 <kevinpaige> Cool...
17:40:30 <Simeon> who "it"?
17:41:18 <vf2nsr> Simeon: the website to fix the formatting
17:41:34 <Simeon> hm
17:42:01 <kevinpaige> I'm checking out productivity apps (calender, tasks, notes... etc)... and getting reading to update Mozilla Sunbird...
17:42:24 <kevinpaige> I'm wanting one I can keep on my USB... like Sunbird, or maybe a web-based app...
17:42:30 <kevinpaige> Any recommendations?
17:42:43 <kevinpaige> I prefer one with Contact integration
17:42:57 <Simeon> I use paper for that...:)
17:43:07 <kevinpaige> Paper?!  What's that?!!
17:43:12 <kevinpaige> ???
17:43:16 <kevinpaige> :)
17:43:21 <Simeon> thin and white! :P
17:43:35 <Simeon> like snow but more durable
17:43:39 <kevinpaige> Man, I couldn't do that...
17:43:47 <kevinpaige> I've used PDA's for over a decade...
17:43:59 <kevinpaige> software will do so much more
17:44:15 <Simeon> Im a student - no money and not as much tasks as others have.
17:44:31 <kevinpaige> Well,  I make a lot of tasks... but don't actually do them... :)
17:44:39 <kevinpaige> A procrastination thing...
17:44:40 <Simeon> hahaha
17:44:44 <kevinpaige> but they're organized!
17:44:49 <Simeon> @vf2nsr: Irfanview gets huge with all plugins!
17:45:45 <vf2nsr> Simeon: I understand was just commenting that if usere wanted plugins  that th einfo was there fo rthem  maybe I read him wrong?  thought he was looking for it with them
17:46:08 <Simeon> you answer was right.
17:46:44 <Simeon> John said the same thing
17:46:56 <kevinpaige> Again, thanks for your help, Simeon!  See ya!
17:47:11 <Simeon> See ya and spread the word about portableapps.com! :)
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17:49:17 <vf2nsr> no matter what I do to edit the rednotebook page can not get it ro format properly   :(  guess will have to wait till Chris fixes it lol
17:49:35 <Simeon> lol
17:52:26 <vf2nsr> well timeto go do somereal work bbl  ciao all
17:52:37 <Simeon> bye
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17:55:36 <Simeon> hi pyromaniac
17:55:50 <Pyromaniac> hey
17:56:07 <Pyromaniac> long time no chat
17:56:20 <Simeon> right
17:57:53 <Pyromaniac> hey Simeon do you use sandboxie?
17:58:02 <Simeon> no
17:58:12 <Simeon> testing my stuff live
17:58:27 <Pyromaniac> ah
17:59:09 <Simeon> maybe I shouldnt...? ;)
17:59:51 <Pyromaniac> I like it because it keeps my 10 year old clean
18:02:14 <Pyromaniac> Simeon: do you think I have any chance of any of my apps becoming official during these "31 days of App-Ness"
18:03:33 <Simeon> sure. although I dont know what apps are yours and if you want to know for sure ask John :)
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18:23:09 <Pyromaniac> GizmoBot: thanks
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23:50:53 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: Apparently we were both typing our messages at same time as I had discovered what I did  I amm sorry and now know what I did and why
23:51:08 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: or should I say how
23:51:49 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: forum posts should always be in Filtered HTML input format.  Just because you can change it now you're a dev doesn't mean you need to.
23:52:43 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: did you read my response to you  I never knew I did  it was purely accidental
23:53:04 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: I just now discovered what I did and how I did it
23:54:03 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: As far as that goes I did not even realize I had any other "powers"  SO IF YOU like take me off as a developer and I won't make stupid mistakes any more
23:54:25 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: you know, there is a reason why "Preview" is required ;-)
23:55:18 <ChrisMorgan> The extra input formats are for pages like development/test which wouldn't be possible in Filtered HTML.
23:55:33 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan:  yes and figured I would justpreview changes I Intentionally made not looking for things I did not realize I change
23:56:57 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan:  but wuith this type of attitude I guess I will either look more closer or request that my developer tag be removed
23:57:17 <ChrisMorgan> vf2nsr: don't worry, it's not a problem, you know now.
23:57:21 <vf2nsr> And since I do not know how to make my name show it I am afk