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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 07:02:59 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07:23:40 *** Antony (~Antho@061093232225.ctinets.com) has joined #portableapps 07:24:05 *** Antony has parted #portableapps (None) 07:26:53 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:28:42 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps 07:29:12 *** dbdii407 (~dbdii407-@aura.devnetonline.net) has joined #portableapps 07:29:14 dbdii407 is Dave, Owner of the ScrapIRC Network. 07:29:18 *** dbdii407 is now known as Guest56372 07:48:29 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@cpe-76-83-207-236.dc.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 07:59:30 *** Peter___ (52716ac3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.113.106.195) has joined #portableapps 08:01:02 Hello, 08:01:08 hi Peter___ 08:01:45 Hello John, please wait a moment untill I have copied and pasted my support request into this single line chat :-) 08:01:52 some applications will not start but quit with an error message, like “this application cannot start from an UNC path…”. This 08:01:58 happens for all applications which have a directory “Launcher” under “App\AppInfo” and I try to start from a mapped share. 08:02:03 Here some of them which do not work: 08:02:07 - Audaciy 08:02:12 - Foxit Reader 08:02:17 - Gnu Cash (does not shows an error message, but will not start) 08:02:19 - Irfan View 08:02:19 UNC paths are not supported 08:02:22 - NSIS 08:02:24 No need to paste more 08:02:26 - Sweet Home 3D 08:02:30 Many other works fine, so I would be glad if this can be fixed (I guess with a newer installer version). 08:02:35 Thanks 08:02:37 Peter 08:03:00 We're working on the launchers to handle some UNC stuff. But many apps themselves don't like UNC paths. So the best thing to do is to map a drive letter to it. 08:03:23 I have mapped a drive 08:04:02 Are you starting it from the mapped drive or from the UNC path? 08:04:28 Some apps won't work properly from UNC even with a mapped drive letter (Google Chrome comes to mind). 08:05:33 Does it has to do with the installer? Because all application which do not work uses a directory "Launcher" 08:07:56 Some apps are using the PA.c Launcher, a single launcher customized via INI. I don't know how well that handles UNC. Technically we've never supported UNC, but it should work with a drive letter. 08:08:14 Gnu Cash does not use the PA.c Launcher. 08:08:37 Ok, so there is no solution about this? 08:09:08 You'll need to type it all up and post it in the forums. It'll have to be researched and tested. It's more involved than a simple IRC answer. 08:09:31 UNC paths are always a bit wonky when dealing with running apps. What OS are you on btw? 08:10:12 Windows 7 but as I mentioned before I run all applications from a drive letter - most work fine... 08:11:25 You said it was a mapped drive letter. As in mapped to a UNC path. Windows treats it differently than a physical drive and some API calls will return the UNC path instead of the mapped path. Hence the term 'wonky' 08:11:52 Ok, I understand. 08:12:04 So I have to post this into a forum? 08:12:40 Yeah, I can't answer it now, because it's likely to be at least a couple hours of research and testing. And you'll need to be able to respond to questions from devs so we can get to the root of it. 08:12:54 And it's 3am and I need to sleep soon. 08:13:11 Ok, I will do this. 08:13:15 Thank you! 08:13:32 Sure thing. Post it in Other Apps Support for now. ANd we'll get on it 08:13:53 Ok, have a nice day! 08:14:16 *** Peter___ has parted #portableapps (None) 08:21:30 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.) 08:41:49 *** swissdog (~swissdog@cust.dyn.95-152-73-102.swisscomdata.ch) has joined #portableapps 09:02:59 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:05:17 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 09:05:48 *** swissdog has parted #portableapps ("Leaving") 09:21:21 Today's new app is out: http://portableapps.com/news/2010-12-29_-_neverball_portable_1.5.4 09:25:27 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 10:37:22 *** z3uS has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 10:42:50 *** pa_4279 (5bb0c085@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.176.192.133) has joined #portableapps 10:42:52 Anyone here? 10:43:16 I need help moving directories and files 10:43:22 making a app portable 10:45:13 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 11:16:50 *** swissdog (~swissdog@cust.dyn.95-152-73-102.swisscomdata.ch) has joined #portableapps 11:19:20 *** pa_4279 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12:00:44 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 13:51:33 *** swissdog has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:26:39 *** z3uS has quit (Excess Flood) 14:27:11 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 14:32:42 *** z3uS has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14:49:55 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 15:21:33 *** palogbot (~palogbot@delawarepark.safesecureweb.com) has joined #portableapps 15:21:33 Topic for #portableapps is: Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. 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If he dies: http://nascent-project.org/portableapps/irc/restart 15:24:11 *** Jedrzej_s (~Jedrzej@46.112.194.92) has joined #portableapps 15:24:17 *** Jedrzej_s has parted #portableapps (None) 15:24:25 *** pa_9094 (320a0e8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.10.14.138) has joined #portableapps 15:25:37 i used the compactor on the entire PA and now nothing works. what is my next step 15:28:48 help 15:34:35 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.178.221.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 15:34:45 *** TASAIRES has quit (Client Quit) 15:38:50 help 15:44:17 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 15:51:20 *** z3uS has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:18:45 *** z3uS (~z3us@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps 16:37:13 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 16:40:27 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 16:57:51 is there a final version of the updater? 16:58:48 not released as of yet? 17:00:48 i just downloaded the suite again because my previous one just stopped functioning (due to something i did, no doubt) 17:00:59 k 17:01:21 should i just download the beta updater and run that? 17:02:24 and .. can i run the update exe file while the PA is up and running? 17:05:29 yes and yes 17:05:57 thanks 17:18:00 is it a good idea to defrag a flash drive 17:22:53 i've got the new suite installed, updated all the apps through the updater, what else can i do to be upto date and improve my experience? 17:29:28 BeckySanderlin`x: does the suite consists of the latest menu and backup app? 17:29:54 i dont know. im on linux now 17:30:07 but i doubt it 17:30:10 since its beta 17:47:03 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:47:18 *** SrgSiler|AFK (~Kyle@69.182.73.218) has joined #portableapps 17:47:18 *** SrgSiler|AFK has quit (Changing host) 17:47:18 *** SrgSiler|AFK (~Kyle@unaffiliated/sergentsiler) has joined #portableapps 18:20:47 *** BjornH (~BjornH@81-235-164-62-no21.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #portableapps 18:29:01 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.178.221.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 18:36:52 *** TASAIRES_ (~TASAIRES@84.121.178.221.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 18:36:52 *** TASAIRES_ has quit (Client Quit) 18:39:37 *** vixenfinder (vixenfinde@c-69-181-73-140.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 18:39:40 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 18:40:04 hiya anyone active right now? 18:40:15 I am. 18:40:24 But that's because I just came in :P 18:40:31 *** TASAIRES has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18:40:31 :D 18:40:52 I'm checking the forums first before I ask so brb 18:42:13 Who are the admins for this irc? 18:42:58 They're at the top of the list. 18:43:13 Gizmokid, Maien, and Zach. 18:43:16 Ah okay. Still pretty new to IRC. 18:43:27 There's more admins, but they're not all online right now. 18:43:39 "I see," said the blind man 18:43:59 so I had an ideat that I wanted to throw out there and see who picks it up 18:45:55 Go ahead. What is it? :) 18:46:18 I use firefox on portableapps but there is significant lag that I because it has to read/write files to the usb. It would be very nice to copy the firefox folder into a temporary directory when you start the program and then return the files back to the usb when you eject. 18:46:39 I do this manually but if there were a script that would be useful 18:46:50 vixenfinder: That functionality is already implanted :) 18:46:59 Go into the Other folder. 18:47:04 And then "Source" 18:47:07 *** BjornH has quit (Quit: Leaving) 18:47:13 Find a file called "FirefoxPortable.ini" 18:47:26 Copy and paste it back in the same folder as FirefoxPortable.exe 18:47:27 there 18:48:07 Open it up, and find a line where it says "RunLocally=False" 18:48:12 Change that value to "True" 18:48:39 hmm... okay 18:48:52 Now start FirefoxPortable.exe 18:49:14 Start up will slow down since Firefox has to be copied over though. 18:49:39 but once it's loaded the files will be in a temp directory? 18:50:53 Yes. :) 18:50:57 ...that does it. All the good ideas have now been taken. 18:52:40 Lol so after firefox closes the usb files are overwritten with the temp ones? 18:53:24 Yes. 18:53:45 To $TEMP\FirefoxPortable\profile 18:53:51 *** abm12 (~AMurzin@static-71-251-31-27.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps 18:53:54 It's good to know this feature is availble for systems that have read only parameters for guests and such 18:53:58 $TEMP\FirefoxPortable\plugins 18:54:03 *** abm12 has parted #portableapps (None) 18:54:09 $TEMP\FirefoxPortable\program 18:54:21 And they're copied back after you exit Firefox. 18:55:22 Where $TEMP is the location of your Temporary Folder (Usually C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming) 18:55:34 yeah 18:55:51 I just confirmed that 18:56:56 I've recently been working on a small aplication with a parter called CDisplayEx, maybe he might consider getting it bound into a portableapp 18:58:56 anyways thx for the help 19:03:32 *** vixenfinder has quit () 19:08:20 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 19:10:47 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@74-141-211-116.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 19:10:48 *** rcmaehl has quit (Changing host) 19:10:48 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 19:16:35 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:21:48 *** kracker[BDC] (~ID@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps 19:35:09 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 19:39:17 *** Bensawsome has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19:45:20 *** amdzero has quit (Quit: Leaving) 19:50:02 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-32-185-119.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 20:04:13 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d06b1eb.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 20:04:43 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a79-169-161-157.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps 20:06:24 gluxon: once the file is renamed as an .exe how do you open it? 20:07:13 Wait, what? 20:07:20 What file are you renaming? 20:07:51 the ini 20:08:02 Oh, I didn't say to rename the ini into an exe. 20:08:17 does it need to be edited before naming it to exe? 20:08:21 What I said was to copy FirefoxPortable.ini to the same folder as FirefoxPortable.exe 20:08:37 Sorry if I wasn't clear. 20:08:39 oh.. lol 20:08:46 *** kracker[BDC] has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20:09:40 So, it should some something like this. 20:09:59 [X]:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\FirefoxPortable.exe 20:10:06 [X]:\PortableApps\FirefoxPortable\FirefoxPortable.ini 20:11:13 did that 20:11:56 Now open up FirefoxPortable.ini (the new one you just copied) 20:12:05 And find RunLocally= 20:12:16 Change it to RunLocally=True 20:12:20 Then save the file, and close it. 20:12:40 Then start Firefox Portable, and it should start running it in a local folder :) 20:19:28 but will it leave a trace behind 20:20:04 All PortableApps leave a trace. 20:20:04 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:20:18 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d06b1eb.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 20:21:41 *** ZachT|ZzZz has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 20:26:02 i thought the whole point was not to leave any trace behind 20:27:41 No, the whole point is to carry your Personal information. 20:28:08 And leave no "personal" data behind. 20:28:23 pa_9094: Windows keeps track of all Apps that are run. 20:28:50 There's a forum topic with more information if you want me to find it. 20:29:05 so what's the diff 20:29:17 isn't running apps personal 20:29:53 Well, your Firefox Portable profile is considered personal. 20:29:56 pa_9094: are you l ooking for a browser that leaves no trace behind? 20:30:05 or all apps that do that? 20:30:20 BeckySanderlin`x: There is no browser that leaves no trace behind. 20:30:22 Opera Portable One-Use 11.00 (English, other languages see below) 20:30:22 All settings, history, cache etc are completely destroyed after running. This is suitable if you run Opera Portable from LAN shares, CD/DVD, or other non-writable media. 20:30:51 No. Again, any app you run is recorded in Windows. 20:32:47 i thought that having PA on a stick would keep everything private, including running any apps, browsing history and saving any and all data on the stick 20:33:50 pa_9094: It does. 20:34:27 but the local computer would still know what apps i launched etc.? 20:34:54 Take a look at these two forum topics: http://portableapps.com/node/24389, http://portableapps.com/node/12827 20:36:24 ok 20:36:28 It's impossible to be completely stealthy, but we try to get as close to it as we can. 20:37:04 For example, in the Windows Start Menu, apps that you run the most will make it's way up to the top of the list. 20:37:22 To do that, it keeps a log of all the apps you run. 20:38:27 That was just an example though, last time I checked, our launchers erase themselves from that log though. 20:38:52 but there are settings that will allow it NOT to remember that 20:39:15 *** ZachThibeau (jon@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 20:39:15 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 20:39:30 there are limits to what windows allows us to do 20:39:38 and we have to operate within those limits 20:40:44 PortableApps are designed to keep your personal information stored on your USB stick, so you can keep them with you, and to keep the amount of (personal) information left behind limited 20:41:26 *** ZachThibeau has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 20:41:46 *** ZachThibeau (jon@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps 20:41:46 ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com 20:45:21 so if i run the CCleaner will it erase any remaining information from the local computer? 20:47:43 by the way i wanted two particalar website to open whenever i launch the FF and i changed that via the Option from the FF menu but the information did not get saved and the default pages opened. 20:48:14 pages=tabs 20:48:19 *** Guest56372 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20:50:52 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 20:53:48 MaienM: any thoughts 20:54:35 not sure about the ccleaner part, as running ccleaner will again leave traces of the fact that it has been ran 20:54:55 but the ff problem sounds like something that shouldn't be happening 20:55:14 ff should remember your preferences, which include your homepage 20:55:39 unless perhaps you removed the usb while ff was still running/ff crashed or something like that 20:57:54 right.. i opened two tabs and visited the two frequent sites i need and clicked the "use current" and it recorded the sites in the text box and i exited and saved on the prompt and reponed ff and they were not recorded and the default tabs opened. and no i did not touch the flash drive 20:58:50 pa_9094: query 21:04:09 BeckySanderlin`x: thanks.. so i need the Opera Portable Personal 11.00? 21:04:32 One-Use 21:05:45 i c... use it like it is running from a non re-writeable media? 21:06:09 create folder, drop exe in, exec exe 21:06:47 i can use the app installer from the PA? 21:07:18 i dont think so, as its not a PA app 21:07:36 just create a folder 21:07:57 in your usb 21:08:10 under pa or where ever 21:08:39 and if you open pa, the menu will see it 21:10:22 right.. i should have read this "Adding Other Apps to the PortableApps.com Menu" first.. :) 21:11:16 k 21:11:21 just have to run the "refresh apps icon" 21:12:11 my 1GB is filling up fast.. now i will have 2 browsers :) 21:28:21 BeckySanderlin`x: everything is working fine except the same problem as FF i want it to open a particular website but it won't 21:33:27 invest in a 8 or 16gb USB 21:33:38 and what website are you trying to open? 21:34:06 no matter what i choose it just won't save 21:34:21 and i have more than 400mb still left 21:34:35 i dont understand what it is you are typing 21:35:37 i visit www.cnn.com and simple go to preference and say "use current" as my "home page" but it won't save 21:35:46 ff has the same issue 21:37:10 why not just go to preferences and do it there ? 21:37:26 oh.. wait. u just said that 21:37:31 weird, it works for me 21:37:33 tried that too 21:38:04 i thought you meant just manually type it in there.. :) 21:38:32 well.. yah 21:38:55 tried both ways 21:39:24 like in firefox (what i have open atm).. it says in pref.. 'When firefox starts..' 21:39:45 Home Page: http://www.google.com 21:39:52 just change what is there to what you want 21:39:55 then save 21:40:07 then exit, and reopen FF (or browser) 21:40:12 and it works 21:42:37 yes.. i have done that many times but it won't save 21:43:19 it prompts me to save and i acknowledge but when i close and reopen it still opens the default pages of ff websites 21:46:33 "when ff starts": "show my home page" and in "home page" : "http://www.google.com" but when i close>save>reopen I still have "http://start.portableapps.com/: 21:48:35 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21:53:29 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-5f767d1f.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 22:02:26 *** pa_9094 has parted #portableapps (None) 22:12:29 *** Thasmo has quit () 22:19:11 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:53:44 *** Bensawsome (~Bensawsom@c-71-232-181-119.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:53:44 Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats 22:54:02 *** Bensawsome is now known as Guest92999 23:13:24 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 23:22:39 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:30:59 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:32:03 *** abm12 (~AMurzin@mx.abm-gears.com) has joined #portableapps 23:32:22 *** abm12 has parted #portableapps (None) 23:52:07 *** Guest92999 has quit (Changing host) 23:52:07 *** Guest92999 (~Bensawsom@unaffiliated/bensawsome) has joined #portableapps