00:09:31 *** KindOne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00:22:05 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 00:25:11 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 00:27:57 hola folks 00:32:44 hola 00:33:09 Hey JohnTHaller 00:33:16 finally moved everything linux side (now just using a windows vm for stuff to do with windows) 00:33:17 hey ChrisMorgan. welcome back. 00:33:29 ZachThibeau: high five! :-) 00:33:35 arch linux :D 00:33:45 custom setup the way I want it :) 00:34:01 Linux is for newbs! DOS is where it's at. 00:34:03 plus will make me fix PChat to compile on linux again 00:40:31 *** taneth111 (~TaffinFox@CPE-143-238-84-254.lns5.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps 00:40:32 Linux is for newbs? O_o 00:40:44 2 points 00:40:47 howdy taneth111 00:40:49 long time 00:41:11 hey taneth111 00:44:55 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Leaving) 01:00:06 *** JacobMastel (~jacobm001@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 01:00:06 *** Jacobm001 (~jacobm001@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 01:01:02 *** JacobMastel has quit (Client Quit) 01:01:24 *** Jacobm001 is now known as JacobMastel 01:31:56 *** gluxon has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 01:42:06 *** JacobMastel has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02:03:54 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02:23:00 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 02:29:20 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away 02:31:30 *** JacobMastel (~jacobm001@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 02:35:46 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 02:40:35 *** pa_7978 (4c43b998@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.67.185.152) has joined #portableapps 02:40:42 hey anyone ehre? 02:40:44 *here 02:45:21 *** pa_7978 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02:50:29 *** JacobMastel has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03:07:46 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 03:23:38 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-24-193-226-114.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps 03:26:25 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Disconnected by services) 03:26:29 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller 03:26:47 hey ChrisMorgan, how would you handle letting the user manually set language if it were something like Pidgin using PAL? 03:27:03 Specific env var needs to be set 03:28:51 JohnTHaller: the language should be written to some file - %PAL:DataDir%\settings\$AppIDSettings.ini 03:29:06 Custom code, right? 03:30:03 No need, just a [FileWriteN] section for it 03:30:38 But it also needs to handle pulling it from PA.c Platform if available. 03:30:59 I was going to add an option for it in 2.2, might just do it now; [Language]:SaveLanguage=true as equivalent to a [FileWriteN]+[LanguageFile] thing. 03:31:16 *** JacobMastel (~jacobm001@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 03:31:38 Basically, the way we do it for Pidgin and GIMP now which is (1) See if set by Platform, if so, use that (2) If not, check to see if user has manually defined it. If so, use that. Not present by default (3) Match OS (aka leave it blank and let the app do it) 03:32:36 FileWriteN+LanguageFile does it 03:33:06 But what about the 3rd option, blank, which is our default for both apps. 03:33:18 *** JacobMastel has parted #portableapps (None) 03:39:30 *** JacobMastel (~jacobm001@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 03:40:27 Would you be having a [Language]:CheckIfExists? 03:41:18 Yes. But again, we want the env var to be blank by default if the user isn't using the platform and hasn't manually set it (which will be most users who aren't using the platform) 03:53:12 Do language files exist for English? 03:53:34 Not foe en or en_US (the default). Just en_GB 03:53:47 Pity, otherwise just "DefaultIfNotExists=" would do it. 03:54:37 However that would make English "leave it to Pidgin" rather than English. 03:54:42 I could through in an empty sub-directory there. But how do we get the user's selection into it 03:55:14 I get the roundtrip otherwise var-wise... just not where the user can manually add it. 03:55:52 (Granted I only know the language switching stuff well enough to do the standard roundtrip stuff with the platform involved) 03:56:52 Putting in a blank directory would do it, I think. 03:58:09 Oh wait... I get it now. 04:02:17 How does this look to you? http://pastebin.com/9HK3GKMN 04:02:55 pretend it says LC_ALL=%PAL:LanguageCustom% in Env 04:05:44 That won't save the language, so it won't preserve language after set in the Platform. 04:06:22 Between sessions you mean, right? But it will use it for that specific launch, which is the intention 04:06:28 So I think you'll want [FileWrite1], duplicate of [LanguageFile] plus Value=%PAL:LanguageCustom% 04:07:02 Basically, I don't want it written to that INI unless the user does it. Otherwise, it's automatic by PAM first and automatic by OS if PAM didn't launch it. 04:07:44 The trend that we have been taking is to preserve the language so that people can set the language via the Platform and then it'll keep that even if they don't use the Platform. 04:08:47 Right, when you can set the language in the app itself, that is. Which you can't here. So I'd like it to be automatic to the OS by default unless the user specifically alters it (just like the standard local app) and then add PAM automation as well. 04:09:25 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 04:13:56 And it's workin 04:27:07 *** Antony (~Antho@061093232225.ctinets.com) has joined #portableapps 04:27:23 OS auto, PAM auto and user manual all work properly. 04:27:25 *** Antony has parted #portableapps (None) 04:28:22 *** JacobMastel has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:28:29 *** Antony (~Antho@061093232225.ctinets.com) has joined #portableapps 04:28:32 *** Antony has parted #portableapps (None) 04:30:13 *** JacobMastel (~jacobm001@128-193-249-18.resnet.oregonstate.edu) has joined #portableapps 04:34:39 ChrisMorgan: Does this look good to you? http://pastebin.com/zP1VzFTR 04:49:59 *** mark105 (~Mark@122.58.190.116) has joined #portableapps 04:51:04 *** mark105 has quit (Client Quit) 04:51:28 JohnTHaller: I got an answer from Tom the other day. I just noticed the email you gave me bounced back. Can you pm me the email address so I can get it forwarded to you? 04:52:45 PMed 04:53:11 *** KindOne (~lol@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #portableapps 04:53:22 Hello KindOne 04:53:40 hi 05:11:03 Today's release has been posted :) http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-09_-_gnumeric_portable_1.10.12 05:21:07 hehehe I love it how you post new apps like 5 minutes before the day ends in EST 05:22:15 Sometimes they're a wee bit late... so I set the clock back :) It's still 'today' somewhere :D 05:22:28 which day is today? 05:22:36 Sunday Jan 9th 05:22:46 still jan 9th here 05:22:48 Though it is now 22 minutes into Monday Jan 10th here 05:22:53 for another 20 minuts or so 05:23:00 i wonder if my laundry is down yet 05:23:15 It's still the 9th here :P 05:23:59 Is there a real difference between Gnumeric and Calc from the open office suite? 05:30:21 абцдефгхийклмнопвкы So that's the alphabet that shows up in Gnumeric Portable 05:30:24 They're entirely independent apps 05:30:42 huh? 05:31:00 That's what I get when I type into Gnumeric Portable. 05:31:19 Numerals are working fine though. 05:31:27 Launching solo or from the platform? And what is your OSes language selection? 05:31:43 (also what OS) 05:31:53 I'm runing from the platform and I'm runing win7 x32 en-us 05:32:20 Sure you don't have a different ANSI lang defined or alt keyboard layout? 05:32:31 Nope. 05:32:49 Haven't changed the settings in Gnumeric and everything on the comp is standard. 05:32:49 I'm on Win7 English launching from English platform and it works just fine. 05:33:15 So. Install path. Did you install English only or multilingual. What else is running, etc? 05:34:08 I only installed english. Install path is standard, nothing unusuall is runing, and nothing unusual is happening in any other apps (Pchat, Firefox, Notepad++ and stickies. 05:34:57 Yikes, that's it. It doesn't like not having its locale files 05:35:19 gnumeric fail 05:35:21 Yeah, calc and excel are working fine too. 05:35:28 *** Zarggg_ has quit (Quit: Zarggg_) 05:35:44 I'll do a reinstall with full files and let you know. 05:36:29 Installing... Seemed like a good idea to save some space... Don't need it on my 750gig external...but thought it was good for gp :P 05:37:37 Yup, works fine with additional languages 05:38:00 Already got a fix. Compiling. 05:38:12 Just removing the option? 05:38:59 Manually adding in the 'en' language even if you don't install multilingual. The launcher needs it. 05:39:11 Oh okay. 05:41:17 Actually no, gotta remove it. 05:41:23 ? 05:41:30 It has issues if in another language and the lang files aren't there. So need em all. 05:42:24 Oh well I guess... 05:43:57 Yeah, odd. DIfferent than Pidgin, GIMP,. AbiWor,d etc 05:44:58 Poorly coded I guess? Doesn't exactly sound like a GTK issue. 05:46:42 And fixed 05:50:11 Working ok for you now JacobMastel? 05:50:34 Perfectly. 05:50:45 Thanks for the prompt repair. 05:51:30 Sure thing. I was hoping just adding the en back in would work, but it looks like it needs all the locales there. It might use en_GB for some of it or something. 05:52:06 Yeah possibily. It's not really worth the effort to figure it out though... It might even do a directory check. 05:52:57 And it is only 15mb, which isn't huge. I took 19mb off by UPXing it. 05:53:04 SARDU is being a total pain in the ass. The language files are even worse...not even properly translated. 05:53:50 Some apps just have no effort in translations sadly 05:55:07 Yeah, and for some reason it whines about not having wget.exe and I can't even find that in my system. So I have no idea why the portable one is freaking out :/ 06:01:25 JohnTHaller: I believe t3 is ready for release. The only bummer is we can't hid the cmd window. It'll hid the entire app. 06:10:54 *** JacobMastel has quit (Quit: Leaving) 06:26:48 gnight all. big day of coding tomorrow 06:26:51 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None) 07:13:40 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@92.116.114.37) has joined #portableapps 07:21:56 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07:58:18 *** OliverK has quit (Quit: so long and thanks for all the fish) 08:03:39 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 08:25:41 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:31:37 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 08:32:03 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@92.116.114.37) has joined #portableapps 08:37:29 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 08:52:29 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@df01ppp147.eplus-online.de) has joined #portableapps 09:13:54 *** Blint has quit (Quit: Leaving) 09:35:45 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 10:05:29 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10:06:01 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@46.114.3.37) has joined #portableapps 11:28:24 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:28:30 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 11:28:58 *** tuttincoro (~Babel@41.84.72.162) has joined #portableapps 11:29:26 'lo 11:29:27 :) 11:29:48 k 11:30:07 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:30:41 I found a portable version of paint.net 11:30:46 Could it be submitted? 11:31:30 i dont think so. 11:31:31 It's even elss than 600k 11:31:35 Why not? 11:31:56 It's not open source 11:32:18 most if not all the programs are worked on by John as an open source project 11:32:35 Oh, only FOSS is accepted? 11:33:01 he has been submitting more and more freeware projects.. but only under his authority and guidelines 11:33:21 Ah, okay 11:33:32 I'll run it by him 11:33:32 cant hurt to ask him though 11:33:37 Yeah 11:33:38 gl 11:35:47 tuttincoro: It's not possible to include non-open-source software. You can only create a launcher by yourself for that. paint.net is closed source, I'm not sure if it would run correctly. 11:36:40 Spellbreaker: well, I tested it on a virgin windows XP machine with SP2, and it worked fine 11:36:46 Without .net being installed 11:36:57 Spellbreaker: details here: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/heaths/archive/2006/05/11/595674.aspx 11:40:31 *** KindOne has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 11:40:34 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11:41:33 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@92.117.250.144) has joined #portableapps 11:41:40 tuttincoro: " Paint.NET also depends on Microsoft's .NET Framework 3.5 SP1, which is automatically installed if it isn't already on the system." 11:42:31 So the only person who can create officially a portable-apps version is the developer of paint.net 11:42:46 Because you may not alter the software and distribute it in anyway, it would break the license. 11:43:11 Spellbreaker: I see 11:43:15 Spellbreaker: thanks anyway :D 11:43:27 So you may ofcourse do that for yourself, but it will not go into the offical apps list :| 11:43:28 No problem 11:43:36 Spellbreaker: one other thing 11:43:53 Is it possible to get rid of the splash screens for the apps in the suite? 11:44:13 I don't know 11:45:36 I think you can add DisableSplashScreen = true to the apps ini file. 11:45:40 Read that somewhere. 11:46:42 or was it in PortableAppsMenu.ini? Dunno, forgot. 11:51:34 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11:57:05 *** kAlug (~kAlug@187.74.8.132) has joined #portableapps 12:18:15 *** amdzero has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12:22:34 *** taneth111 has quit (Quit: BYE.) 12:23:26 *** Kiriko (~inanother@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 12:35:30 *** Kiriko has parted #portableapps (None) 12:37:52 *** ronjn has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 12:41:02 *** ronjn (~ronjn@dslb-092-074-195-049.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps 12:43:17 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@212.23.105.223) has joined #portableapps 12:49:09 *** tuttincoro has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 13:45:08 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 14:01:04 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps 14:10:48 *** rick_c (~rick@70-89-226-50-smc-pa.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #portableapps 14:11:06 *** rick_c has parted #portableapps (None) 14:14:38 *** kAlug1 (~kAlug@187.74.8.132) has joined #portableapps 14:15:12 *** kAlug1 has parted #portableapps (None) 14:17:29 *** kAlug has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15:34:39 *** vf2nsr (~vf2nsr@unaffiliated/vf2nsr) has joined #portableapps 15:34:40 *** spgSCOTT (~spg_SCOTT@5add3ab0.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 15:42:16 *** vf2nsr has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 15:45:19 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 15:51:59 *** MaienM_ (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps 15:54:05 *** MaienM has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15:54:16 *** MaienM_ is now known as MaienM 16:10:40 Are there any devs here? 16:11:08 plenty 16:11:14 but I'll brb system reboot 16:11:47 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 16:35:54 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th 16:46:33 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 16:54:25 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 17:10:05 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d069be0.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 17:16:29 Ok, well I have been posting on the evernote forums and it seems that they may be interested in making a portable version, which I would love (yes it has been requested in the forum before but nothing has actually happened with it) Would it be something that could be done? 17:18:32 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs181105044.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps 17:21:17 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 17:26:28 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 17:28:48 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:30:32 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 17:35:30 spgSCOTT:Depends on the License I guess. 17:53:09 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-33-68-14.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 18:04:22 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 18:08:23 They said that if they were contacted by PA.c then they could probably work something out...here is the thread: http://forum.evernote.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=21590 18:11:50 *** pa_1805 (5699bd17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.153.189.23) has joined #portableapps 18:12:21 does any one know how to register a portable device? 18:12:41 how do you mean register? 18:13:38 i don't know bbc said i had to register a portable device such as a usb 18:14:37 if I had to guess it means put it in your usb drive and register it in windows basically get the driver installed so you can use it on your computer 18:14:58 ok thank you 18:15:16 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07F4F0.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 18:15:17 np 18:19:28 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:19:47 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d069be0.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 18:24:02 *** spgSCOTT has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 18:24:47 *** spgSCOTT (~spg_SCOTT@5add3ab0.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 18:24:50 *** spgSCOTT has parted #portableapps (None) 18:25:41 *** pa_1805 has quit (Quit: Page closed) 18:36:02 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;)) 18:41:09 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@pD955727D.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 18:42:25 *** markomlm has quit (Client Quit) 18:52:23 *** spgSCOTT (~spg_SCOTT@5add3ab0.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps 18:53:57 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 19:12:27 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.178.221.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 19:12:32 *** TASAIRES_ (~TASAIRES@84.121.178.221.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 19:12:59 *** TASAIRES has quit (Client Quit) 19:13:04 *** spgSCOTT has parted #portableapps (None) 19:13:28 *** rick_c (~rick@75-145-47-30-Pennsylvania.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #portableapps 19:13:31 *** TASAIRES_ is now known as TASAIRES 19:13:33 *** rick_c has parted #portableapps (None) 19:16:19 *** kaeos (~Miranda@90.164.135.241) has joined #portableapps 19:22:00 *** kaeos has quit (Quit: kaeos) 19:54:04 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:08:31 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM) 20:30:33 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 20:35:16 *** Thasm0 (~thasmo@d86-33-68-14.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps 20:38:25 *** Thasmo has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20:42:19 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend) 20:59:25 *** ZachThibeau is now known as Zach[AFK] 21:05:29 *** markomlm (~chatzilla@pD955727D.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps 21:06:26 *** markomlm has quit (Client Quit) 21:26:58 *** ricardo920 (ricardo920@78.251.246.226) has joined #portableapps 21:37:46 *** ricardo920 has quit (Quit: Quitte) 21:40:26 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 21:40:50 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 21:40:52 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 21:50:10 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps 21:55:10 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 21:56:24 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21:58:23 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:00:43 *** TASAIRES has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:01:11 *** TASAIRES (~TASAIRES@84.121.178.221.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #portableapps 22:02:26 *** Zach[AFK] is now known as ZachThibeau 22:11:50 *** kai_62656 (~ID@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps 22:14:36 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 22:17:25 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:22:58 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 22:25:51 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 22:47:24 *** gluxon has parted #portableapps (None) 22:55:00 *** Spellbreaker (~Spellbrea@hmbg-4d069be0.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #portableapps 22:56:47 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 23:01:24 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@74-141-211-116.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 23:01:24 *** rcmaehl has quit (Changing host) 23:01:24 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 23:09:12 *** rcmaehl has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 23:09:40 *** TASAIRES has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23:12:11 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@74-141-211-116.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps 23:12:11 *** rcmaehl has quit (Changing host) 23:12:11 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps 23:17:29 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:30:32 *** kai_62656 is now known as kracker[BDC] 23:42:26 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 23:46:35 *** BeckySanderlin`x (~quassel@c-98-252-21-200.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps 23:57:03 *** Spellbreaker has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:58:47 *** BeckySanderlin`x has quit (Remote host closed the connection)